1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: My wife wants to send our queer son to a 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: conversion camp, so I divorced her. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, send her to one to like gay people. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I must send you to the conversion camp where 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: you get divorced, lady, what's up? Divorced conversion? So so 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: this is a pretty heavy situation, and I'm really confused 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: and disgusted. Not gonna lie because I never thought my 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: wife was like this. My wife, forty four female, and 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: I forty five male, have been married for fourteen years. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: We have two kids, a sixteen year old son, Noah, 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: and a twelve year old daughter. We've had our fair 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: share of disagreements over the years, of course, but things 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: have generally been smooth between us. By the way, this 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: comes from user stunning Mud ninety two to twenty seven 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So now for 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: the context. Noah came out as gay about a year ago. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: It was a surprise and as hard as it was 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: to accept, I love my kids more than anything and 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: I just want their happiness. My wife visibly didn't take 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: it too well, though, Oh no. She was upset and 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: seemed to go through a grieving period where she didn't 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: really talk about it. I tried to support Noah in 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: every way I could, telling him that I loved him 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: no matter what, etc. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Which is the. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 3: Right thing to do in that situation. My wife, though, 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: I could tell, she wasn't on the same page. She 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: would say things like, quote, this is just a phase, 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: or he needs help, but I brushed it off as 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: her just needing time. Fast forward to last week and 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: we were having a conversation about Noah's future. Out of nowhere, 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: my wife casually mentions that she's been looking into conversion 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: therapy camps and thinks it might be the right solution. 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no. 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: She said that Noah isn't truly gay and that he 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: just quote hasn't been shown the right path and this 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: could fix him. Yeah. 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's force him to a new sexuality. That'll definitely help. 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for sure, because you was gonna totally know, 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: you're totally tapped into exactly what he wants and needs. 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would love to see the conversion therapy camps 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: conversion rates after light ten years. 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh, they're they're like basically useless. 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean they're they're they're exploitive and abusive. They're terrible 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: they're terrible organizations. You should never send anybody to a 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: conversion therapy camp. My blood ran cold. Obviously, I was 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: in shock. I immediately told her I didn't agree and 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: that this was not something I could support. 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: Duh. 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: She got upset and said I was enabling Noah's confusion 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: and that if I really cared about him, I would 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: help him get better. What is wrong with her? She 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: was persistent, and no matter how much I tried to 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: explain that conversion therapy is harmful, like I know kids 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 3: that get abused and often end up either traumatized or 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: you know, or worse what, and that I would never 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: send our son to something like that, she wouldn't back down. 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: If I'm being one hundred percent honest, I don't even 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: think that I love her anymore. The fact that she 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: could be so heartless disgusts me. I know being gay 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: is not easy, and people like her just make it 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: even harder. I'm considering staying only for our daughter's sake, okay, 63 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: but would it be okay if that meant hurting my son. 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: It feels like a betrayal to Noah. 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: I just don't think I can keep living with someone 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: who thinks this is okay. 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Dang. 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: The daughter literally took away my conspiracy theory because I thought, 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: oh maybe the mom just one of the daughter in 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: her life surely has one, so yeah, she's just officially 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: that person. How does not come up? 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean? How does not come up before? Well, 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: he came out a year ago? And how do you 74 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: not know. 75 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Your thoughts of your partner and how they feel about 76 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: homosexuality before you got married and have two kids? 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess, I mean, like, how does 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: that not come I just not I don't know if 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: how many of my own partners I've ever talked about 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: conversion therapy with. I don't think that's something you could 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: ever know about somebody until they drop the bombshell on 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: you where it's like I want to send our gay 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: son to conversion therapy and now you have to go, 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: who is this person I'm married to? 85 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: But like, but like, how do they not know that 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: they were? 87 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: Like I guess just like yeah, they just yeah, I 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: would I guess it would be homophobic or I don't know, 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: but clearly they have a lot of problems with. 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: The gays. 91 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: I just like the excuses that the mom key's making like, no, no, uh, 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: it doesn't. 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: This is just a phase. 94 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so condescending. 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: No, legos are a phase until you're one hundred. 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: Sorry. 97 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: An astronaut at four is a phase, that's true. 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's also a very illustrious career path. Email 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: music was never a phase, mom, Yeah, that's more. That's 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: THEE and that's also not a phase. We're being We're 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: really doing a bad job here at labeling phases. Anyway, 102 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: we have some relevant comments here. Op needs to get 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: a divorce as soon as possible. His wife is setting 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: their son up for child abuse, and OPI responds, I mean, yeah, 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: of course I really want to divorce her. We don't 106 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: even talk anymore. But I know how dang close my 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: daughter is to her mother. But I know at the 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: moment I need to focus on Noah and hopefully my 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: daughter will be wise enough to understand. 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Comment are one not the ahole. 111 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: Please do not send your son to conversion therapy because 112 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: of your wife's heartlessness, which I don't think we have 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: to worry about that, Opie's yeah, Op says, you do 114 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: not have to worry about this. I will not do that. 115 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: I love my son just the way he is. I 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 3: don't even know how to tell him his mom wants 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: to do that, which I don't even know if you 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: should ever tell him that. Maybe the kids noticed the 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: tension between us, but I haven't said anything yet. Comment 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: her two staying for your daughter's sake? WTF? What about 121 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: your son? Not the a hole divorcer and get full 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: custody immediately of both kids. Tell the judge you fear 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: crazy parents will turn your daughter against your son and 124 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: raise her to be a bigot like her. Also, if 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: you get any of her nonsense in writing, get it 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: in text or a text, save it. Don't tell her 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: you're going to use it in court. Conversion camps should 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: be illegal. 129 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: It's so disgusting. 130 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just be like Siri. Any homophobic things you hear 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: from our wife, just document it. Yeah, because you always 132 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: have your phone on you. Yeah. Right, Ali has come 133 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: a long ways. 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Uh Op says, you're absolutely right. 135 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: I'll start looking for a good lawyer and cut her 136 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: out of our life as soon as possible. 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: So looks like. 138 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: He is no longer on the Should I stay for 139 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: the daughter's sake? 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Got hush? 141 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: I guess yeah, you don't want your daughter being raised 142 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: by a bigoted homophobe that wants to send their own 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: son to conversion therapy. 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Because that makes great people in this world. 145 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, she clearly has. She's got to work through something. 146 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Who knows what. 147 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: We do? 148 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: Have an update? We have an update here. 149 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, So. 150 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Let's dig into this update. 151 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: So, first of all, I'd like to thank everyone here 152 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: for all the help and advice I've gotten under my 153 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: post and in DMS. Sorry if I couldn't answer to everyone, 154 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: there was just so many effing people. 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Lol. 156 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: So I posted something about my wife wanting to send 157 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: my son to a conversion camp. First of all, some 158 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: people told me to show her videos and documentaries about 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: what happens there. But this argument has been going on 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: for more than a week now. I've showed her things 161 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: and she still won't budge. 162 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 163 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: Really bad update, if I can be honest. So let's 164 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: get into it. All of you told me to try 165 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: to get him out asap. Y'all were definitely right. So 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: yesterday I took the day off and went to see 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: an attorney just to get some information about divorce. 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: But after what happened, I'm one hundred percent sure I 169 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: want a divorce asap. 170 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Yesterday I went to pick Noah up at his school, 171 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: and as many of you suggested, we had a long discussion. 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: I basically told him his mom and I may be 173 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: getting a divorce because she wants to send him to 174 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: a conversion camp, but I can't accept that. I've talked 175 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: with her many times, and I told him I'll probably 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: go through with it. He looked really hurt and my 177 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: heart broke all over again, but was very understanding and 178 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: thanked me for standing up for him. I pulled him 179 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: into a tight hug and told him I'll always love 180 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: him no matter what, and that nothing is his fault 181 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: and that right there is what I would be most 182 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: concerned about. That's when earlier I was like, I wouldn't 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: tell him that because I feel like it would be 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: so easy for Noah to get it mixed up in 185 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: his head where it's now my fault, that because I'm gay, 186 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: my parents are getting a divorce, And it's like he 187 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: doesn't need that over at all, But it sounds like, 188 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: hopefully the conversation was like nuanced and you know, deep and. 189 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Heartfelt enough to where it doesn't feel. 190 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: That doesn't you're crossed the bear. 191 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: At that moment, he started crying because he was so 192 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: glad that I at least was on his side. And 193 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm very pissed, So I'm sorry if I don't make sense. 194 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: But apparently his mom had been pressuring him for months 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: whoa She planned dates with girls to try to fix him, 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: and he had to lie by saying he was going 197 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: to a friend's house instead. She was saying he needs help, 198 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: and as much as she loves him, he needs to 199 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: get his condition cured. 200 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: This mom is gross. 201 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: How do you still think this way? Don't I don't 202 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: understand how you can think this way about your own child. 203 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah that's the dude. Wrap that up in a nice 204 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: little bow. She is a hater, that is true. I 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: feel so bad because I've been so oblivious to all that, 206 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: and I failed to protect him for all that time. 207 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: How do you make your sixteen year old son go 208 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: through all that? So when we got home yesterday, I 209 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: can't lie. I was furious, and I confronted her right 210 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: then and there. At first, she was trying to explain 211 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: she was doing it for him, but her speech quickly 212 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: turned into slurs, and it was clear that she was 213 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: just ashamed of having a gay son. In the end, 214 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: I told her I want to see or I went 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: to see an attorney, and that learning all that just 216 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: confirmed that I want a divorce. She got really angry, 217 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: calling me a delusional disgrace. We argued a lot, and 218 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: at some point Noah tried to separate us, but my 219 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: wife struck him multiple times. 220 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wow, wo wow. Oh I read the 221 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: little bit coming up. 222 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, mom is getting thrown into the black hole, 223 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: turning into spaghetti so that she no longer exists. I 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: don't want to live on the same plane of existence 225 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: as this woman. 226 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Calling her a woman is not She's a demon. She's 227 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: not even a human. 228 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 229 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: She was saying disgusting things like he's a dirty f 230 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: slur and that it's all his fault. We're getting divorced 231 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: because his filth corrupted me. 232 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, just just gimming. She needs to be put 233 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: into like a kids around your children saying that stuff. 234 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: Let let her be studied by scientists so they can 235 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: figure out how a demon materialized in the physical plane. 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: My daughter, who was probably in her room, came to 237 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: see what all the commotion was about and was rightfully 238 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: horrified and quickly called nine one one when I told 239 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: her to wow. So mom was getting like belligerently, just 240 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: like aggressive, and finally, that's crazy, long story short, cops 241 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: got there and took her away. She was very reluctant 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: to go because she was not in the wrong and 243 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: they needed her and they needed to let her go. 244 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: I explained everything to my daughter and she doesn't want 245 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: anything to do with her mom anymore, which I'm good. 246 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want anyone to have anything to do with 247 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: this woman. 248 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm in the hospital because my soon to 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: be ex wife broke my rib while I was restraining her. 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: Whoa wow, So she was getting feist demon strength right there. 251 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 252 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: I should have probably went as soon as the cops 253 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: took her, but I don't care. 254 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: My son was crying with a black eye and his 255 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: split lip. Dude, actually send this mom to prison, like 256 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: straight up press charges. Get her locked up. 257 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: She shouldn't ever be able to be in the same 258 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 3: room as her children everywhere. Yeah, obviously, the only thing 259 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: I cared about was to comfort him, because I can't 260 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: even imagine what it would feel like being hit by 261 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: your own mom for being gay. I'm planning to file 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: for full custody of course, and my kids don't want 263 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: to see her ever again. Given all the charges she's facing, 264 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: I hope she won't stand a chance against me. I 265 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: just sent a mail to my attorney and I hope 266 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: the procedures will be fast. I've also thought of getting 267 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: child Protection Services involved, but I'm not sure they. 268 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Will really help. 269 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, you can join us live on 270 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: YouTube and Facebook, TikTok and Twitch every week day at 271 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: three pm PST. 272 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Just tap our profile and you're in that. 273 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: That would not even be live right now. 274 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't don't leave yet if you're watching this 275 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: in the future, because we do have a little bit 276 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: of story left. We're gonna coales our thoughts here. This 277 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: is in freaking Yes, that was pretty brutal. 278 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 4: Like the fact that the mom it just like came 279 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: out of left left field, the mom just becoming this 280 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: demonic entity. 281 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is mm hmm. 282 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: I don't even feel like the black hole is appropriate. 283 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: There needs to be now be like a further level, 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, Quasar or something. 285 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: Like Judi Persas CPS is actually a great idea. Another 286 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: paper trail can't hurt. That's true that you have like 287 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: police reports and CPS saying this about the mother. 288 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: But I can understand him being concerned, like because I've 289 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: heard so many stories of like all that like turning 290 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: left and it's just going wrong where it's like, you know, 291 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: in my head, I can come up with like a 292 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: because of the fight that happened there, like and like 293 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: the whole environment is unsuitable, so it's like nobody gets 294 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: customed like that where because you were fighting with your life, 295 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: you don't get custody either, So it's like, you know, 296 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: it's it gets real dicey. 297 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 6: That makes sense, makes sense, But it is true that 298 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 6: a paper trail it would be is always good. 299 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is uh sorry, if anything, you know, 300 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: they're probably should. 301 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: I wish we would have had a trigger warning at 302 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: the beginning of this episode because that got pretty intense. 303 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: But you can put a trigger warning right now, yeah 304 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: for there, for future episodes. 305 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: For future Yeah, when we put this out there, this 306 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: should definitely have a trigger warning on it at the top. Yeah, 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: there's never an acceptable excuse for anybody, even if this 308 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: is a learned behavior or learned sort of thought pattern, 309 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: Like that's not acceptable, Like. 310 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: You even if you disagree with someone. 311 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: And to your earlier point, to your earlier point, when 312 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you were saying, how did the husband not know this 313 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: after this level of reaction? How did that stay underneath 314 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: for all that time? 315 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: Like? 316 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: How could you never sense that she was so just 317 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: like it's a viciously awful like maybe it's it's all 318 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: confined in that one context and it just all exploded up. 319 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I could never imagine. But yeah, I hope 320 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: this story ends with you know, she gets lipped out 321 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: of existence. 322 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, agreed, agreed, agreed. 323 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: So I cannot understand how you can grow so resentful 324 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: of your own child because of something they can't control. 325 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: Even I had pretty strong opinions about it, but as 326 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: a father, it's my role to unconditionally love my kids, 327 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: and so I learned about the topic and changed my 328 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: way of seeing the world for him, w Dad. It 329 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: took some time grasping it, but I never doubted one 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: second the love that I have for my child. I 331 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: thought it would be the same for my wife visibly not. 332 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: I mean I think maybe that was supposed to be. 333 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: Obviously not. And we do have some relevant comments. Ope 334 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: on his daughter's strength to call for help and get 335 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: her some therapy if needed. Op Uh says, thank you 336 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: very much. I'm very proud of her for doing this 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: only at twelve. Wow, she is very shaken and confused. 338 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: And yeah, no twelve year old should be ever have 339 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: to do that. But that, you know, it is nice, 340 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: she took point. She's pretty shaken and confused, but she 341 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: seems to understand the gravity of her mom's actions. I'm 342 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 3: so sad that she had to be dragged into this 343 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: mess as well. Op On kicking his wife out of 344 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: the house or moving out somewhere with his kids. We've 345 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: got a house that is under both of our names 346 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: and we didn't have a prenup. People have been telling 347 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: me to change the locks and throw her stuff out, 348 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: but I just don't know if I can do that. 349 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: If I can't, I'll either go back to my parents 350 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: with the kids or rent an apartment in the meantime. 351 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it would be wise. Yeah, and 352 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: don't do it. 353 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: You know, if you're gonna you're about to be in 354 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: a fight for custody, most likely, don't do anything that 355 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: could make. 356 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: You look bad on paper. 357 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah, definitely don't just like kick her 358 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: out onto the street, because that's gonna make you look bad, 359 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: but of course she deserves it. I would totally agree 360 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: with that action, but it's not gonna be best in 361 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 3: the long run. 362 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. Seeing that 363 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: story looks like we got some donations. Also, you know 364 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: what new thing, new thing? If we hit five hundred likes, 365 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: I will rewrite everything on the wheelspin to be add 366 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: thirty minutes. If we hit five hundred likes, what time 367 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: is it? Keon two? If we hit five hundred likes, 368 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: we will get an extra thirty minutes. It sounds like 369 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: a sweet deal to me. Five hundred likes. I take 370 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: that deal. 371 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: Will you take that deal? 372 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: Five hundred likes, thirty minutes. I take that deal. 373 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: I take that deal. 374 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: That's a good deal. 375 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we're gonna read the story, and you 376 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: guys are gonna like you. And if you don't know 377 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: how to like, go out of the chat. If you're 378 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: on on your phone, go out of the chat, press 379 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: the like button and come right back into chat. Easy. 380 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: That's right, easy chat, And then come back to the chat. 381 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna read some donuts real quick before I get 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: into this story. Bug. Actually, you should read it Okay, 383 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: my Facebook numbers are down really bad. 384 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw my numbers. My numbers actually pretty big. 385 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: Good for you, Yeah, I pump those numbers. 386 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: Up, buddy. No, no, you guys are have more, way 387 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: more of a chance getting one HUNDREDK than I am. Bug. 388 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for the five bucks, Dakota Keon, I'm making everyone candles. 389 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite pregnant bug? 390 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Bug? That's amazing. I like the smell of beach. 391 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: That got me off guard. Why did they get me a. 392 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: Beach? 393 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I smell like beef? 394 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Dude? That number has gone up so much right now? 395 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's great. It was like two forty 396 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: at Keeking. Keep liking. 397 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: So you like beach, Dakota, I am a man of 398 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 4: like lavender. I like lavender, and I like, I don't know, 399 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: like cherry blossom. 400 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: He's a beach. 401 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 5: I used to work at bathroom body works. 402 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, cherry blossoms definitely checks out. 403 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: What does that mean? 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: What? Wait? 405 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: What did you mean by that? 406 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: What is this? 407 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: What does don'no by Josephine. 408 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 5: Hold On, He's refresh Yeah? 409 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: What oh oh uh? Pink x uh. I'm a living 410 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for being a member for one month. I 411 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: love watching your lives makes me forget about real live drama. 412 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Also, if you do have a little 413 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: real life drama, go to our subredit and put it 414 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: there because we love drama. 415 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: Yes right, your story might even you know, end up 416 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: on the on the stream here. 417 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Pink, I want to say it. You can't 418 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: go to the next one. 419 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: Espine, middle of a request, thank you for the twenty 420 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: seven s feed this growner, no black hole sent her 421 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: to me because it's a worse fate. Oh yeah, So 422 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: for specifically for the people who just like can't stop 423 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: hating the gays, We're going to send you to Josephine 424 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: and we're going to and she will take care of you. 425 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: Josephine also says thank you, thank you for the twenty 426 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: seven Swedish coroner. She also says conversion camp is mental, 427 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: mental and physical abuse camp. 428 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean for the most Yes, why would you 429 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: do this? Everything I've basically ever heard of that is, Yes, that's. 430 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: What that is. 431 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: Oh I think they won't ray. Yes, thank you for donating. 432 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: Gara the donating again to get my name right, it's 433 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: mo Gary, that's what I said. No, you said Mogary, 434 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: Carbo of my cat's name, Morgan, Carrie, Mogu Mogu and Carrie. 435 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: But I still love you Riley no matter what. Thank 436 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: you for listening to me saying that, because I know 437 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: that was pretty bad. Oh my god, Gary, Oh Gary, 438 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: for you, I will do that. Thank you. 439 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: There's no hard if I Filipino pesos love it. 440 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh yay, sad face emoji sassy sin l PC. 441 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for the one dollar and thirty nine cents 442 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: of Canadian money with a little frown of face. I 443 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: assume because of the story, not because of Yeah, uh honey, 444 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: B eighty five. Thank you for the five pounds. 445 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: I have a. 446 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: I have an F two. 447 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm female to man right, okay, I'm just trying to 448 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: figure out how to I have a female to male son. 449 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: And my mom always MISSGENDERSIM so this story hurts my heart. 450 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: Just support your kid, woman, exactly, support your child, Support 451 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: your children. 452 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: Dash start us. Thanks for being an eye and Eva, 453 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: I'll have my friends Hello and Josephine hold on gonna 454 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: learn to speak take over for Keon. 455 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: You're so sweet. 456 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: And then we have someone else. 457 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: That is a member in Miss Miss romey A. 458 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: And then we got two more donos on the bottom 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: you said, Rovi a lily and four months four months woo. 460 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: All right? 461 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: Uh Sassey Sen LPC. Thank you've really fourteen Canadian dollars. 462 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: Hello from Canada. First time in the chats. You fellas 463 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: are awesome to watch and Riley love your hat. 464 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice hat, Riley. 465 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: It is Ke has one like it too, dump them 466 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: dump up. 467 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 3: And Kirsten Dedieu, thank you for the twenty eight Canadian dollars. Wow, 468 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: Opie's wife needs to control her hate Dakota. If you 469 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: don't like me commenting, I'll stop. Want to respect you, 470 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: just like to see you blush. 471 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't. 472 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Actually want you to stop. No, please keep going. 473 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: No, it's the thing where people goes stop but don't stop. 474 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Stop but don't keep going. 475 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: Hope you guys for stop. 476 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a fun night at the 477 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Spotify event tonight. 478 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: And Wingles, thank you for the five gifted Okay Storytime memberships. 479 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: That's five more Bibist Family, Yes we have more. And 480 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: Fluffy Savvy, thank you for being a member for seven months. 481 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: Lurkers represent also like the stream, like it, like it, 482 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: like it Okay, I was doing that for all of 483 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: the listeners. 484 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Riley was just matching my He was lip syncing with. 485 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: Whatever I was saying, Visu, because I'm he's just too 486 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 3: funny to not do digital human there, let's read another one. 487 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: Guys, you have three minutes. Once that timer goes off, you, guys, 488 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: the the likes will go away. So you guys have 489 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: three minutes and forty seconds to get it. 490 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see about that. 491 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 5: It depends what cold hit first. 492 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: We'll see about that. Yeah, you're sure about that? 493 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: If you guys, are you sure about it? If you 494 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: guys hit it before this goal, before we get to 495 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: two fifty bucks, we'll do the thirty minutes, and then 496 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: if you get two fifty, we'll do another thirty. So 497 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: like the stream. 498 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: First, it's a thirty for thirty, thirty for thirty. 499 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do it. We'll do it. 500 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: I'll talk, okay. 501 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 5: Uh. 502 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: I want to divorce my wife, but I don't want 503 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: to destabilize my children's lives. 504 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: You gotta pick and choose. 505 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: Man, it's a classic crossroad, right, no wife, no life. 506 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: What we just possessed you don't know? 507 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: Oh dang, we're no wife? 508 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 509 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh god, alright minutes. 510 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 4: Whoa, let's freaking go, guys love to do this. 511 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: Wow at the same. 512 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: Time, Wow, wow, wow, we are here thirty All right, 513 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: here we go. Let's go. 514 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: My ex wife and I were married for over twenty 515 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: years and have two children together, twenty two male and 516 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: twenty female. For most of my marriage, things were pretty balanced. 517 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: We both shared housework. Oh that was a you know, ew, 518 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: that was an experience. You break that sneeze. 519 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I never hold my sneeze in and I 520 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: decided to not hold it. 521 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: Sounded like you were angry about that sneeze. 522 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Sorry, Okay, since you before any of this, 523 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: let's let's let's say thank you to everyone who is gifted. 524 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for donating. Thank you the dons after 525 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: the story. Should we just reading this? 526 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: Sub reading much? 527 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: Elly Jin, thank you for gifting five members. Tristan full 528 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: Hat with the ten m Jay grow, thank you for five. 529 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: Jen Thomas, thank you for five. And I'm. 530 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: He's really going to. 531 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: And then and then uh, Lily. 532 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Le Bon, you're a new member, say thank you and 533 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: welcome to the family. Yeah, new members, sound off the 534 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: chat Riley you're you're uh, you're on. 535 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 4: One today he sneez his brain out. Look where he goes. 536 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: He gets a little crazy, rattled your brain lose all right, 537 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: Cody starts right. 538 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So so Jesus Christ, what good? 539 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: Okay? Are we composed? 540 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 4: Gentlemen? 541 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: All right? We're ninety likes away from that extra wheelspin. 542 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: By the way, anyway, started from the top, So started 543 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: from the top. 544 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 5: Just just started from the top. 545 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: From the very top. Just it. 546 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: I want to divorce my wife, but I don't want 547 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: to stabilize my children's lives. 548 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Happy wife, happy life. Anyway. 549 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: My ex wife and I were married for over twenty 550 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: years and have two children together, twenty two male and 551 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: twenty female. For most of my marriage, things were pretty balanced, 552 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: excuse me, everybody. We both shared housework and child's care responsibilities. 553 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 3: We were each stay at home parents for over a 554 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: year after each child, her with our son and me 555 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: with our son and daughter. We always had agreements on 556 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: how we wanted to divide work and generally had decent communication. 557 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: By the way, this. 558 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: Comes from user prudent Composer thirty five hundred on the 559 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: r slash okay story time subreddit. So this changed when 560 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: my oldest went to high school. My wife got a 561 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: new job that was both very demanding on her time 562 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: and was fifty percent travel. This meant that I had 563 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: to handle everything about two weeks out of the month, 564 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: and when she was home, she wasn't holding up her 565 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: side of the world work with agreements. 566 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. 567 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: I did my best to be accommodating, and we worked 568 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: through redistributing chores and housework a few times to make 569 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: it fit her schedule better. 570 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: But a lot of the work just kept falling. 571 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: To me, sounds like you should get a part time 572 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: job from your wife. What part time job from your wife? 573 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: From your wife? 574 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: Hey, if you're not gonna do what you said you're 575 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: gonna do, hey me and I'll do it for you. 576 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think the responsibility of children transcends 577 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: agreements you make with your partner. Hey, Dakota, so far 578 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: I have not seen this the wife do anything wrong. Yes, 579 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: she works a lot, she's making good money. 580 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but she said she's traveling for two weeks 581 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: out of the out of the month. She said the 582 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: other two weeks, hey, i'll help clean, help, I'll do that. 583 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: She's not doing it. 584 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: Suck it up me a dad bro that's what I'm at. 585 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: That's where I'm at right now. You gotta suck it up, Dad, 586 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: all right, Paul, Paul that we're way. 587 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: Too early for Dakota because you know you're wrong. 588 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: Riley, how much? How much caffeine have you had? 589 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: Actually haven't had any. 590 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 5: I don't believe you one bit. 591 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: I feel like that's an inverse effect. He's had none, 592 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: so his brain is screaming. 593 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: It wants it's just g no on, like, please feed me. 594 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: So when the pandemic happened. 595 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: Anyway, when the pandemic happened, things got worse, but I 596 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: tried to just suck it up because I knew the 597 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: lockdowns were temporary. Finally, when things opened back up, things 598 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: continued to decline, and I asked to go to counseling. 599 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: She missed a lot of our meetings and just didn't 600 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: commit to it. Now that I don't like. I don't 601 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: like committing to counseling and then not showing up. 602 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Called it. 603 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: That's not cool. 604 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: I always agree with me. 605 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: So at this point I decided that I wanted a divorce. Ultimately, 606 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: it was a really tough time for the family. My 607 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: son was getting ready for college. In person, at through 608 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: his freshman year, being remote, which was both financially and 609 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: logistically challenging at the time. At the same time, my 610 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: daughter was also having some issues with depression and I 611 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: had become her main support person. With my wife gone 612 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: half the time, I made a decision to wait until 613 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: my daughter was in a better mental state and our 614 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: family was in a financially stable place. 615 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Before I filed for divorce. I did my best to 616 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: continue to contribute and was essentially a single parent for 617 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: three years. On a few a Kate, wait, but. 618 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: Because she's leaving every two weeks out of the month 619 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: and not helping out, I'm doing this. 620 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: Oh, but I thought both of the kids had gone 621 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: to no not yet college at this point. 622 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: Yet I say so. 623 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: On a few occasions I brought up counseling again, but 624 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: my wife said things were good and wouldn't go. We 625 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: pretty much did not have any spice to sleep for 626 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: that period of type, and there was one summer where 627 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: she essentially moved to North Carolina for six weeks for work. 628 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: She came home on some weekends. Oh. Conspiracy theory. 629 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory, your wife's cheating on you, bro, North Carolina 630 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: conspiracy theory. 631 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory, Riley conspiracy theory. 632 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: Oh okay, you know you're really like you guys, what 633 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: you're saying. 634 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, conspiracy theory. Your wife's cheating on you. 635 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Your wife's big cheating. 636 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: And I know what goes down in North Carolina. 637 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: He's he's tapped in. 638 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: No one goes to North Carolina, No one does. 639 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: No one works in North Carolina unless. 640 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: You're a banker in Charlotte. But that's it. 641 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: Just one banker in Charlotte, he handled all the money, golfer. 642 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: No, no one even goes off in North Carolina. 643 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Maybe she eight guys, Maybe she just really loves her work. Anyways. 644 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: Uh, last year, after my daughter started her sophomore year 645 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: of college and she was in a better place mentally 646 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: and emotionally, I sold off some of my stock investments 647 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: to create a trust for my kids to ensure college 648 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: was covered. 649 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Then I filed for divorce. 650 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: At first, my wife was really pissed, and then she 651 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: left to live in North Carolina. 652 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: Again called, well, that's not suspicious. Yeah, there's a lot 653 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: of handsome fellows in North Carolina. That's where I'm from. Dude, 654 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: they just manufacture us over there. 655 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just they're just pumping out carbon. 656 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: Copies of yeah, you know, I'm gonna lie was just 657 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: a couple of variations. 658 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 5: There are some pretty good looking people from North Carolina. 659 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: I have dated Michael Jordan. 660 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna say I did a couple of 661 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 4: people from North Carolina too, So. 662 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, chat is Michael Jordan hot? 663 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: Let us know. 664 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 5: Anyway, don't do that chat. 665 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: When she came back four weeks later, she said she 666 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: wanted to work through it, but I told her that 667 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: I had made the decision to leave years ago and 668 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: wasn't interested. 669 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: We eventually worked through. 670 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: Mediation and got to an amicable divorce. My kids live 671 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: with me now and support me, but all my in 672 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: laws and even most of my family outside of my sister, 673 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: think I'm the a hole. They believe I should have 674 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: forced the issue more when we started counseling and either 675 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: divorced or made it clearer to my wife how important 676 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 3: counseling was to me. They've called me selfish, and some 677 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: of my in laws are refusing to interact with my 678 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: kids when they're at my house. For example, my daughter 679 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 3: facetimed her grandmother once this summer, and she hung up 680 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: once she saw that my daughter was at my house. 681 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: They also created a bit of a scene at my 682 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: son's graduation in the spring, refusing to acknowledge me and 683 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: demanding that my son choose to celebrate with them or 684 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: me rather than having dinner together as a group. 685 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: Buddy, I'm not gonna lie. 686 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: I see exactly where they're coming from, because I know 687 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: that we're having the the fun joke about how the 688 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: wife is going to North Carolina to get with a 689 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: carbon copy of Riley. However, we have no words in 690 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: this story or evidence in the story that that is 691 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: at all what's happening. 692 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, who knows where they live? The camp So you know, 693 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: one time, have a story. I'm gonna do a small okay, storytelling. 694 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: If you can't hit that button? Okay, mine, could you 695 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: hit that button? He needs the button? Okay, storyteme button, 696 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: thank you, I can continue now. So my pastor had 697 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 2: had a nephew that the nephew suspected that his wife 698 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: was cheating on him. He hired me to be the photographer. 699 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: So me, him and the nephew went to North Carolina 700 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: because it was happening in North Carolina, and waited on 701 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: the wife we didn't get pictures that day. They went 702 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: the next week without me and got pictures. But yeah, yeah, 703 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: I think you need to like go maybe do some 704 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: spy work and to figure it out. How can you 705 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: how could he be okay, how could he be in 706 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: a marriage for three years or not do the deed. 707 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: That is actually yeah, that's that's coming. 708 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: From three young horny men. How can you do that? 709 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: Uh? 710 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: They're better than you. 711 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 712 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 713 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Look? 714 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes uh, sometimes love can transcend physical intimacy. However that's 715 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: usually But if that was further down the. 716 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 2: Line that was true, why did he mention that then? 717 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 3: But see, okay, so the problem I saw some people 718 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: pop off in the chat that I'm like, not on 719 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: the husband's side because his wife was a wall. But 720 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: it's like he did this for like, it's what the 721 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: step or the I understand the perspective of the in 722 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: laws being not on his side at all, because from 723 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: their perspective, this guy just checked out of their marriage 724 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: three years ago and was like I already decided to 725 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: divorce you, so I don't even care. And it's like 726 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: you should have really pressed and made sure your wife understood. Hey, 727 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: this means a lot to me, Like to the point 728 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: where if you're completely unwilling to show up to these 729 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: counseling sessions, I don't know if I'm willing to stay 730 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 3: in this relationship. 731 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Ope ever did anything close to that. 732 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 733 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: So that being said, OP is trying to play like 734 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: the oh woe is me card, But at the same time, 735 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: you never communicated properly to your partner that this is 736 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: what you were going through. You made a decision alone 737 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: and then decided that you were gonna wait patiently to 738 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: execute it. 739 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 4: Ye. 740 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: And it's like, I. 741 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: Understand the in laws hating your guts for that. 742 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: And he probably didn't even talk to them at all. 743 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: If he's not gonna talk to his wife, he's definitely 744 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: not talk to them. 745 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: They don't know anything. 746 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: But anyway, I really want to find out if the 747 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: wife is cheating, because that would change everything. 748 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: I got my money's on a all on cheating so 749 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: life savings to pick it back up. 750 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: They were demanding that my son either choose to celebrate 751 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: with them their the in laws, or me, rather than 752 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: having dinner together as a group. I encouraged my son 753 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 3: to go with them and we had our own celebration later, 754 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: but something happened at the dinner, and my son has 755 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: lived with me and been almost no contact with them since. 756 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: I honestly feel like I did what was best for 757 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: my kids, but I know it feels like their mom's 758 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: family is punishing them, and I feel like a terrible father. 759 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: I admit that it might have been more mature to 760 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 3: address the issue head on with my relationship with my ex. 761 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 3: It's not a mite, dear, that's a definitely would be, 762 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: but I felt that it was about more than just 763 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: the two of us. Frankly, I feel like my lack 764 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: of backbone years ago has made this divorce worse for 765 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: my kids. But I also believe that if I had 766 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 3: to do it again, I would still prioritize my kids 767 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: over my own feelings and make the same choice. No, 768 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: but see, that's you're doing a tricky thing there where 769 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: you're saying that you did it for the kids, but 770 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: you never ever fully communicated with your wife. That has 771 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 3: nothing to do with your kids. You could have had 772 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: that conversation with your wife, yeah, and you're you guys 773 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: could have figured out how to make it work for 774 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: your kids. 775 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: If it wasn't gonna work anymore. 776 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: How do we go about separating without destroying our kids? 777 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I am a huge, huge proponent in couples therapy. 778 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: I talked to Angie actually last night. I like, hey, 779 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: and so is op. Whenever we're two years in, let's 780 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: go to couples of counseling. 781 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to get just not even because anything's wrong, 782 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: just because it's like it would be nice pre work. 783 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: It's preparing for whenever something does go wrong. You already 784 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: know how to communicate, You know how to fight with 785 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: one another, so then you can get into it and 786 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: still be able to leave with both of your heads 787 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 2: attached to your bodies. Yeah, it's that. 788 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: That's some golden golden egg type advice right there. Look 789 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: at him from Riley, everybody look. 790 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: At you, look at that. Yeah, but I I I'm yeah, dude, 791 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: you you dropped the ball. That you both dropped the ball, 792 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: and no one's picking it up. Well there is. 793 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 3: Lady Jade Master just did make a comment saying trying 794 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: to have counseling is communication. 795 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: That is true. 796 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 3: However, the lack of communication is that I don't think 797 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: he ever made it clear to his wife how important 798 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 3: that was to him, and he made that decision after 799 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: she stopped, after she was doing you know, she was 800 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 3: being absent at these counseling sessions. He said, he made 801 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: the decision internally that he was going to divorce her. Okay, 802 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 3: and that and mist and. 803 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: That there was no going back. 804 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 3: But it's like you should have first had the hard 805 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: talk with your wife. Even said like, I feel like 806 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: not having the backbone years ago to have this conversation 807 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: is now making the divorce worse. And you're right about that. 808 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: Ob Anyway, there's an update here, though, so let's get 809 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: into it. Oh gosh at it, Holy crap, this blew up. 810 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 3: First off, thanks for the folks who provided feedback and comments. 811 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: I really felt like crap, and both the positive and 812 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: negative comments helped me get a little perspective on things. 813 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: I've seen a few comments come up multiple times, so 814 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: I figured it's worth answering them here before I move on. 815 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 3: This is an account I created to ask an embarrassing 816 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: dating question earlier this year. I created it because my 817 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 3: main user excuse me, because my main username is recognizable, 818 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: and I reused it now because I don't really want 819 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: to air my issues associated with a known username. When 820 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: my wife took the job, we were doing well financially, 821 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: but the job still came with a big raise. I 822 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: was making about two hundred K, and the job she 823 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: took gave her a raise from eighty K to one 824 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: hundred and forty K, which again is what I said, 825 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: is like, wifey is not just doing this because she's like, 826 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: I hate my life. 827 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 1: I want to be out of the house. 828 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: Wife. 829 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: He's making her bread. 830 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, wife's getting the bank. 831 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, and you can't. How are you going to 832 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: stop somebody from making their. 833 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: Money generational wealth? 834 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: Come on, especially if you know anyway and you can, 835 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: let's continue. That was enough that we could go from 836 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 3: saving enough to have an emergency fund to having enough 837 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: to pay for our kids college. Outright, we both work 838 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: in tech, but she works for a defense contractor. 839 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's why she's moving. Oh yeah, North, that's moving 840 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: for tech. I forgot about that well. 841 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, and if you're a if you work for 842 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: like the if you're a defense contractor, it's like, especially 843 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: if you work in tech, you might just have to 844 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: like up and leave in the middle of the night, 845 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 3: like you never know, depending on what you're doing. 846 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: That's kind of cool but yet not. 847 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 3: But it's it's very hard to maintain a solid family 848 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 3: dynamic when you have to up and leave at the 849 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: drop of a hat for your job, which is fair anyway, 850 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: some of the work needs to be done on site 851 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 3: and the only and so she works for a defense contractor, 852 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: and some of the work needs to be done on site, 853 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 3: and only one of the offices related to her work 854 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 3: is near where we live. When we originally discussed the job, 855 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 3: her plan was to work in the high travel role 856 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: for some time and then try to transfer to a 857 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 3: lower travel role based near us. 858 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: She got promoted a. 859 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 3: Few times and staying near our home wasn't an option 860 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 3: unless she took a bit of a pay and title cut. 861 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 3: When we divorced, I was making about two hundred and 862 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: eighty K and she made a little over three hundred K. 863 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 3: Some folks were also confused by my stock comment. I'm 864 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: a software engineer for a big tech company in about 865 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: twenty to thirty percent of my salary comes from RSUs, 866 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 3: which are restricted stock units. I'm not an investor by 867 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: any means, and I was just selling off stock mostly 868 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 3: to cover my daughter's college and pay off what debt 869 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 3: my sons had. I know a lot of people are 870 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 3: jumping right to an affair, but I really doubt it 871 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 3: that's coming from op Okay, in school, my wife and 872 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: I were the obnoxious kids who reminded the teacher about homework. 873 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: And she's a massive introvert. Her working late in a 874 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: hotel room is much more likely than her sleeping around 875 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 3: or keeping some secret family. There is a chance I'm 876 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: wrong here, but I think this is more of a 877 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 3: situation where Reddit sometimes thinks all divorces end within fidelity. Sorry, 878 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: but you know what never ends the party that we 879 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: have here every weekday at three PMPST when we go 880 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 3: live on Facebook, on YouTube, on TikTok on Twitch. 881 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: What all you gotta do is tap our profile and 882 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: you're in. 883 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: And if you're watching this in the future, we might 884 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: even be live right now. 885 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: Dude, that's crazy. 886 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: So maybe go check right after this because we're about 887 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: to finish this story. 888 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: Okay, even if she didn't she and she is an introvert. 889 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: North Carolina is a beautiful place to move to, and 890 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: if you work from home, I would I will move 891 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 2: back to North Carolina when I get older. So that 892 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: checks out. That checks out. 893 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: Check out that like it's north it checks out that North. 894 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: Carolina or in North Carolina, right know you know what, Yeah, yeah, 895 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: all of your belongings to move to North Carolina tour. 896 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: For the tours in board at North Carolina. 897 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: I'll invite you to my Thanksgiving. 898 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: So on a real level, though. 899 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: Like this is actually one of the most like I 900 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: feel like balanced sort of divorce stories we've had in 901 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: terms of like he the op is very. 902 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: Dissatisfied with his marriage. 903 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with 904 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 3: her absence, and you know that she's traveling a lot 905 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: for her work, which would be you know I And 906 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 3: it's it's also fair because they had conversations, and they 907 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: had discussions where they were like, all right, here's the 908 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: game plan, here's the agreement, here's what's going to happen. 909 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: And they didn't end up happening that way. And of course, 910 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 3: sometimes life is going to get in the way. You 911 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 3: know what, what's the thing that the best laid plans 912 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 3: of mice and men, they offen and go awry, So 913 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 3: you can make a great, great plan. But at the 914 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: end of the day, yeah, she got a raise that 915 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 3: what he said at the end, her pay got bumped 916 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: up to three hundred thousand dollars a year. 917 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: That is a lot of money. 918 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know that's money that in the context 919 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 3: of a family, it's like you're using that. 920 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: For like for the college fund, for for everything. 921 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: It's it's you're doing this work because you love your family. 922 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 3: From her sense, right, Yeah, so from her perspective, she 923 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: might even be sacrificing. She's like, I wish I could 924 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 3: be home more, but I'm out here making this money 925 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: for my family. I think the big, the main problem 926 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: is that Op never had the hard conversation about this. 927 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have those hard conversations. 928 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Op really like it seemed like he was like 929 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: once Op decided on divorce, it was over for him 930 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: and there was no more need to even have the conversation. 931 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: I wish we could call his brother or like his 932 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: mom or someone else just to be like, hey, what 933 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 2: kind of person is he? Has he ever had a 934 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: card conversation with you, so we know if. 935 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: That's the right Well, he did say at the end 936 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 3: there that they're both pretty introverted. Okay, so maybe they're 937 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: not confrontational by nature. But it's like, I think the 938 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 3: route here was not just I'm divorcing you because I'm 939 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 3: where are you? I think there needed to be more 940 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 3: work done, Like it's not always going to be easy 941 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 3: being married. Oh no, marriage is not always gonna be easy. 942 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: And I need that. 943 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 3: From my perspective, I feel like divorce. Really the decision 944 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 3: was hastily made here, So let's see how the story ends. 945 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 946 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: When I say we had an amicable divorce, I mean 947 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: that more in the legal sense than the emotional sense. 948 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: Uncontested might be a better term. 949 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 3: The only significant asset we had that wasn't easily split 950 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: was our home. My wife loves the house and I 951 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 3: frankly wanted something different, so she bought out my portion 952 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: of it. Our kids are adults, so there is no custody. 953 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: Our assets are mostly divisible, so no issues there. Our 954 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: salaries were comparable, so there was no alimony. We each 955 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 3: had a car. Overall, it was a pretty straightforward process 956 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 3: to divide things evenly, and neither of us wanted to 957 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: draw things out. We didn't end the marriage as friends 958 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: by any means, but from a legal standpoint, it was 959 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 3: amicable because we decided on arrangement with a mediator and 960 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: only involved lawyers. Briefly to actually draft the final paperwork 961 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 3: for the judge to. 962 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: Sign off on. And that is the end of that story. 963 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, hopefully you can move on. That's that's 964 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: that I can see. 965 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. I think I feel 966 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 3: for I feel more for the wife's side than I 967 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 3: feel for I mean, and I get it, dude, this 968 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: is not like an unbalanced I don't think that anybody 969 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: is like a complete evil villain here. I just think 970 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 3: that you could have had a completely different outcome, probably 971 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 3: a more positive and better one if you had just 972 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 3: like communicated, tried to express to your wife how hurt 973 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 3: you were. 974 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: I don't think he ever did. I don't think so either. 975 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 3: I don't think she ever knew, which is why she 976 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 3: was like super surprised when this came down. 977 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 2: But nothing, a little coding can't help them both, you know, like, ah, 978 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: I'll just go code now, let us go work on this. 979 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 3: And nothing a little work can't help. I mean a 980 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: lot of people do that too. It so when you 981 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 3: got emotional stuff going down your life, you get lost 982 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 3: in your work, which. 983 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: And just a lot of stream like five times, not. 984 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: A good thing to do, don't get getting lost in 985 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 3: work is not it's not great. No, no, it's unless 986 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: you love your work. But still there's more to life 987 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 3: than work. 988 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: Is there? Some what Sam John told me, So this 989 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 2: is your life. 990 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't mean to tell you that your life. 991 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: Your life is exclusively work for you. It's all worked. 992 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: I'm kind of blown away that I'm seeing people in 993 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: chat saying that you know that this is a bad take. 994 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: I got whatever it is what it. 995 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 5: Is for me. 996 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: If divorce is already on the mindset, and it's like 997 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 4: it's like like one of the seeds that you just 998 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 4: like murder. 999 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: When you got murder on your mind, go ahead, go ahead. 1000 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: Oh so you get to say it, but I can't 1001 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: because murder. 1002 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to save you. Go ahead, go ahead. 1003 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 4: Talking when like breaking up or divorces on your mindset, 1004 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 4: it's like a seed that's already planned and it will 1005 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 4: just keep growing and growing unless if you like actually. 1006 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: Have an emotional Catharsis to confront. 1007 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 5: It like immediately, you have to do it immediately. 1008 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 4: But once divorce like starts like spreading, it's just like 1009 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 4: it's a toxic thought. As someone who experienced this pretty recently, Yes, 1010 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: where my parents wanted to get a divorce back in I. 1011 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 5: Know, twenty fifteen. 1012 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 4: Wow, but they're like, we'll wait for the kids until 1013 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 4: they go out to college. It was one of the 1014 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 4: worst experiences of my life. They just finished. They're still 1015 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: pretty much. They just finish the divorce. It is really crappy. 1016 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 4: I don't recommend it for the kids. 1017 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1018 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 5: I was one of those kids. 1019 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. 1020 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying chat is that at. 1021 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 4: Some point you gotta start thinking like for yourself, but 1022 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 4: you also got to think what's the reality for your 1023 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 4: entire family and what's best and boy oh boy. 1024 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 3: We're also only getting one perspective here. And honestly, the 1025 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 3: way that was written, it really didn't involve we know 1026 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing about his wife. He he he literally just 1027 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,720 Speaker 3: was like there and she was introverted in high school. 1028 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: So they've been together for a long time. They have 1029 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: kids that are like in their twenties. I don't know 1030 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 3: what's your favorite color? 1031 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 2: Huh? What wasn't what? Where's the last place she got 1032 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: ice cream from the wife? We don't know anything about. 1033 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: Her, dude, your brain is on high octane mode today. 1034 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm just so happy to be here. Yeah, we're happy 1035 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: and always happy. Sam was like, we also have to 1036 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 2: do something. I'm like, I can hop on stream now. 1037 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 2: I really want to be on stream for a while. 1038 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: I've been doing other stuff. I've been working. 1039 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 3: There's a lot of work to be being done all 1040 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 3: the time around here. 1041 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: Lots of work. One, yeah, that is, but that is 1042 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: the end. Someone give Riley some caffeine please, Yes, that's 1043 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: what He's. 1044 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 5: Already caffeinated when he doesn't have caffeine in him. 1045 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll make I put enough in me to make 1046 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 2: sure that happens. Let's read some donuts to Tomlet thank 1047 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 2: you for five dollars. I need some love today. 1048 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: We need to do a close out. Are we still 1049 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 5: doing the close out? 1050 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 4: No? 1051 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 2: Okay, no close out the tom, but thank you for 1052 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: five bucks. I need some love today. My mother's health 1053 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 2: is bailing and she continues to choose my abusive X 1054 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 2: over family. It's as bad as it sounds, and it's worse. 1055 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: I am so sorry. Hearts in the chat for the Tomlet. 1056 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: Hopefully things get better and we are here chat as 1057 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: much as just an astraction. 1058 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying to put as much thought into the universe 1059 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 3: that this one that that will stop. 1060 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 2: I'll be praying for you. Boo batchered. Thank you for 1061 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: the five bucks. Don't let it in too early. Okay, Well, 1062 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 2: well I did to do a thing where you guys 1063 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 2: would good to five hundred thirty minutes ago when nobody's 1064 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: hit it. That was thirty minutes ago. How about where 1065 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,919 Speaker 2: Tom was running out, we already had another thirty minutes. 1066 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: How about we do twenty minutes. How about if we 1067 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: can okay, you know what, five five hundred four, five minutes, 1068 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: five hundred I know you, next minute and a half. 1069 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: We'll add ten minutes twenty No they I was given 1070 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 2: to give him thirty and they didn't do it. Fifteen. 1071 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: That's already what's on the wheel calling the shots anyway, Ziggy, 1072 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: thanks for beeating. 1073 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: He's in the red chair. 1074 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 2: Love you guys, tons my best. He calls you guys 1075 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 2: my cult time. I'm just with okay stories. 1076 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome. 1077 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the cult of okay time. 1078 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 5: Bring him over to the cult. 1079 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: Key on. Add ten minutes, okay or spin the will. 1080 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 5: Ten minutes. What do you want your it's your call, will? 1081 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: Or ten minutes a guarantar ten minutes or spin the 1082 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 2: will or twenty minutes. 1083 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 3: Uh, soup, you can just say shiz oh that such 1084 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 3: I mean it says she's a soup. 1085 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 1086 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 3: I love thank you for being a member for six months. 1087 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 3: I love listening to you all while I groomed dogs. 1088 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 3: And they seem to love y'all too. We got dog fans. 1089 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 3: We got dog fans. 1090 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: That's what are you doing to those dogs? 1091 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 3: Thanks for being awesome and keeping us all entertained. She's 1092 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 3: grooming the dogs so that they look beautiful. 1093 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: And you can't do that to dogs. 1094 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: Actually dogs are you can do that to dogs? 1095 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 5: You can confusing that again. One is for we. I mean, 1096 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 5: why do I put poll? 1097 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: God, that's how it feels every time someone makes fun 1098 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: of me for a mispronouncing word. 1099 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: That's how it feels. 1100 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: That's how it feels. Oh that's what that's what we're doing. 1101 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: Is ten more minutes anyways, Uh Claire, thank you for 1102 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: five bucks. Y'all make my depression go away? Much love? Yes, also, 1103 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: re'll know if you do have depression. I'm sorry. They 1104 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: give there you go. 1105 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 5: One is not ten minutes? 1106 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: Are okay? All right? Look at him? Go all right? 1107 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: Do it? Do it? No one can compare to Riley. Yeah, 1108 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 2: that's right. No one could compare to you either anyone else. 1109 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 3: There are people who can compare to you because you 1110 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 3: have selings that almost look identical. 1111 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: To but they can't match my energy. They can't match 1112 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: no tits. Seems pretty cool. 1113 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: We met, you know, but I saw some posts he 1114 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: made and they were really funny. 1115 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you already liked it. He really wants 1116 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 2: to meet you. You guys are just a matchmate and. 1117 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 5: Half do we We got wingles, we mentioned wingles. Yeah, 1118 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 5: I think we did mingos. 1119 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Wait did we did? We? 1120 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 5: I don't know if we did. 1121 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 2: We did? We did? We didn't Wingles? We love you 1122 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: Wingles thinking for five five fifty, I think that we did. 1123 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 6: But Jim Thomas, let's go back through the the Membership wave, 1124 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 6: Jen Thompson, Ellie, Chris Tinfoil had MJ grow Jen Thompson 1125 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 6: again and Leli been toned b mona damn one day. 1126 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 2: We'll get your name smooth. 1127 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the the Membership Tsunami before we 1128 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 3: started that episode. 1129 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: Fun fact, there's a tsunami five hours north of US. 1130 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean there wasn't, though there was, Oh it was, 1131 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: there was a warning. 1132 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 5: They canceled it. They canceled, They. 1133 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: Canceled the tsunami. The tsunami got canceled. 1134 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 5: How okay, I don't know. 1135 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 2: It didn't it would. It just wasn't the right wave. 1136 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't the right wave at the right time. 1137 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 5: There wasn't a big earthquake though, right. 1138 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: There was a seven in the like nor kaal. Yeah, 1139 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: it was off. It was off the coast though. 1140 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: I did. I did say thirty and it was if 1141 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 2: you guys did it in the nine minutes that was left. 1142 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was their Well yeah, Riley's you know he's 1143 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: in charge right now. Claire, thank you for the five 1144 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: dollars through the tip link y'all make my depression go 1145 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 3: away much love. 1146 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 2: You just said that, yeah, and I said, get hope 1147 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 2: you do okay, and give a homeless man five bucks 1148 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 2: and I will. 1149 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: Oh. You know why I didn't hear that I was 1150 00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: going through. 1151 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 2: I was doing. Bug, give ten bucks, go ahead, bug, bug, Hey, 1152 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 2: thanks Bug for the ten bucks. 1153 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear Dakota say my name again. Bug. 1154 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa wow, whoa whoa whoa. You get ten minutes 1155 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: and another thirty because of Thank you. Too. 1156 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: Who just did who just who just gave? Who just gave? 1157 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 2: I had vix mixed vix makes. Thank you for the 1158 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 2: five gifted memberships. And Tina M. 1159 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for the twenty gifted Okay storytype memberships, and 1160 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: La La thank you for the five ten Let's go, 1161 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. 1162 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm not being you, guys just didn't add give me 1163 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 2: enough like some time? Yeah, not being me? 1164 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 5: He's Riley's too cute. Eight nine, ten boom, there's ten minutes. 1165 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 2: All right there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Read me 1166 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 2: another one? Or do you want me? I'll read I'll read, 1167 00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 2: read me another? Wait? 1168 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: How many moks to say it in a fancy accent? 1169 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 2: Read me another one? So thank you for the sticker. 1170 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: It's like this, Oh yes, the lemon high five? Yeah, 1171 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm the lemon. 1172 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: Because okay, but how many words? Is it's so I 1173 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 2: can read it? 1174 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 5: Thank Look at that pole, Look at that pole, option. 1175 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: In one that and look at my worm with a 1176 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: hat read Thank you you have the right one, my girl. 1177 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 2: Thank you for ten bucks. Hi, Hi Mariah if you're here, 1178 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 2: you're polar Bear is right behind me. Actually were yesterday? 1179 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 5: All right, you got the story. We moved in. 1180 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: Are you good? 1181 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 5: We're good? Did you you have yes? 1182 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 1183 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 3: We moved in with my mother in law and things 1184 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 3: are going great, but my brother in law has been 1185 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 3: hard to deal with. 1186 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, there was a big dono. I'm just gonna ignore 1187 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: what you just said. Holy cal Hannah. Thank you for 1188 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 2: the fifty freaking Bukker roudies. 1189 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: Moment of silence for Hannah. We all know what to 1190 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: do in the chat. 1191 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Hannah read it again. 1192 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 5: Sorry from the top. 1193 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: One mos sa dykochy and well and you know what 1194 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do it right now. Thank you for 1195 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: thank you for the ten dollars mount abs. Girl, you've 1196 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: already said that to I did. I'm I don't know 1197 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: what's going on. Stop stopping street, Adhd. My brain is 1198 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm locking in only yeah wait, I'm locking in. All right, 1199 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm locked. My brain is locked. 1200 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 5: I give them two minutes. 1201 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: We moved in with my mother in law and things 1202 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: are going great, but my brother in law has been 1203 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: hard to deal with. Get rid of them like a wart. 1204 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: You heard them, folks. 1205 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 3: For context, My twenty six mal why life twenty six 1206 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 3: female and I moved in with her mother earlier this year. 1207 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 3: We have been married for four years now and used 1208 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 3: to live in a big city. We bounced around from 1209 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 3: rental to rental due to my job being at a 1210 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 3: college campus and us being allowed to live in staff housing. 1211 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, we were no longer able to 1212 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 3: live on campus, so we lived in a rental home 1213 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two and then a small apartment in 1214 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. I left that job at the college 1215 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 3: in mid twenty three and found a temporary job. 1216 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: In the city. We both agreed that we were paying 1217 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: way too much in rent for jobs that were no 1218 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: longer paying the bills and moving us closer to our 1219 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: goals of paying off our debts and starting a family, 1220 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: So that's what made us move in with her mom 1221 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: to save money, kind of save that money, get rid 1222 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: of debt okay reasonable By the way, This comes from 1223 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: user pretty fly Guy five on the r slash okay 1224 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: storytime subreddit. 1225 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 3: So the goal was to agree aggressively put money towards 1226 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 3: our debt and begin to save money for our next 1227 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 3: living situation. 1228 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: Which we hope would be owning a home. 1229 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 3: So far, we've done great, paying off all of my 1230 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 3: wife's student loans and cutting my student loans in half. 1231 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 3: We've now been living there for ten months and it's 1232 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 3: been good for the most part. Her mom is very 1233 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 3: nice and we have come to mutually benefit from us 1234 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 3: moving in with her. We pay her rent, we buy groceries. 1235 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 3: I do a lot of cooking and yard work. My 1236 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 3: wife cleans the house, et cetera. Like a little family 1237 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 3: like a little like a little family unit. 1238 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 1239 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully no one takes us for granted or starts misusing it. 1240 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I highly doubt that. 1241 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 3: I say all that to set the stage for how 1242 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 3: different it has been so far. With my brother in 1243 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 3: law now living with us. I will refer to him 1244 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 3: as c throughout the rest of the post. 1245 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: What's his name, Sakoda? Let's call him Cicada. No, no, 1246 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:57,919 Speaker 1: let's call him Carter. 1247 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 2: See sends in this. Well, then what do we call him? Zakota? 1248 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 5: Charlie call him? We'll call him Charlie. 1249 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Charlie originally living don't Charlie originally was living with his dad. 1250 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: My wife's parents divorced in twenty twenty and didn't have 1251 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 3: a good relationship with him. Charlie is not a bad person, 1252 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 3: but he is definitely bipolar. You have to walk on 1253 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 3: eggshells around him because at the slightest hint that you 1254 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 3: are upset with him, he will completely shut down, degrade himself, 1255 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 3: and say we would be better off if he left 1256 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 3: us alone. He is very different to talk to, as 1257 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 3: he will make Joseph, he is very difficult to talk to, 1258 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 3: as he will make jokes or references that you may 1259 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 3: not understand and then degrade himself if you don't get it. 1260 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: To give you a. 1261 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 3: Picture of how difficult it can be to be around him, 1262 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: one time he and I went all things together. I 1263 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 3: don't take the game too seriously when I play, which 1264 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 3: what's wrong with you? 1265 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Golf is a serious game. I understand I'm not very 1266 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: good at it. Get better. Sorry, I'm just messing around. 1267 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 3: But on the other hand, my brother in law is 1268 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 3: a pretty good golfer. About five or six holes in, 1269 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Charlie is not playing super well. On one hole, he 1270 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 3: gets so frustrated that he took his clubs off the 1271 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 3: golf off the golf cart and said he was going 1272 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 3: to walk the rest of the round while I rode 1273 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 3: because he didn't want to bring me down. 1274 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's thoughtful. 1275 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 3: That's thoughtful and the exact opposite of how that works. 1276 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 3: I told him that he's being ridiculous and would actually 1277 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 3: be bringing me down more if he decided to walk 1278 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 3: while I rode in the cart. Fast forward to about 1279 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 3: a month ago, and he has been kicked out of 1280 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 3: his dad's house. I say kicked out in quotes because 1281 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 3: the story he tells about how it went down seems 1282 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: more like he was literally. 1283 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Asking to be kicked out. What. 1284 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's confusing. Let's see how that works. His dad 1285 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 3: asked him to help move some plywood into storage. Charlie 1286 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 3: complained and questioned why they would need to keep old plywood, 1287 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 3: a foolish question. They argued back and forth for a 1288 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 3: little bit, and his dad eventually told him not to 1289 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 3: help and to just go. Charlie asked him if he 1290 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 3: was meaning for him to take all of his stuff 1291 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 3: and dog and move out. His dad kept telling him 1292 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 3: to quote, just go. Charlie kept pressing and asking if 1293 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 3: he wanted him to move out or not. Charlie, Charlie, 1294 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 3: I think he just likes to take a little mole 1295 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 3: hill and make it a mountain. It's come on, Charlie. 1296 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 3: He loves doing that's that's like wine victim. That's victim 1297 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 3: mentality right there, Charlie. 1298 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 2: That's straight up. 1299 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 5: Up, Charlie. 1300 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Just he's like, why do we need to keep us 1301 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: all plywood? 1302 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 2: It's all but and beat Tom and Jankie time out. 1303 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: I have an emotional Uh, I have a I have 1304 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 2: a wall of emotions, like a like a poster of emotions, 1305 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 2: and one of them comes from insecurities. I'm gonna look 1306 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: at it and see what emotion that roots from. 1307 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Talk to Koder. I'll be right, okay. 1308 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Yes. 1309 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: First of all, plywood is one of the most versatile 1310 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: building materials for a variety of different constructs, which is 1311 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 3: why you don't throw out plywood. 1312 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: You keep it because you never know when it comes 1313 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,919 Speaker 1: in handy. Also, this guy's just being like, we don't 1314 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: wait wait, he's complaining, complaining, complaining. So the dad's like, okay, 1315 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: this is more annoying than handling the plywood by myself, 1316 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: so just go it's fine. And then he goes, just go, 1317 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: So what you just want me to move out and 1318 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: take the dog and take all my stuff and leave 1319 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: And he just goes, I'm not even gonna I'm not 1320 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: even going to entertain that just go, just go get 1321 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: just go go away from me right now, is what 1322 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: the is? And here comes here comes Riley. 1323 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 3: With the is what this is the newest character from 1324 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 3: inside Out three at Riley's about to show us right now. 1325 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Insecurity comes from feeling threatened, which comes from fear. Ah, 1326 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 2: So he needs to find out in a way with 1327 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 2: the therapist what he is afraid of so we can 1328 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 2: then stop feeling threatened all the time, so he won't 1329 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 2: be insecure and wanting to feel like he needs to 1330 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 2: leave anytime he upsets someone or if his dad like 1331 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 2: just go. That's coming from. 1332 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Insecurity, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where it's like, oh, 1333 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 3: you secretly don't want me here, so just tell me, 1334 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 3: just tell me now, tell me, tell me, tell me, 1335 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 3: because I. 1336 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Know I'm afraid that you don't. So I'm gonna press it. 1337 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make him say that you do so I 1338 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: can confirm my own fear. 1339 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 5: Wow. 1340 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 3: That's that's deep. That's super deep. We should have that 1341 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 3: hanging up in here. Where's that? We need another one 1342 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 3: of those. We need to make a copy of that. 1343 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 3: Good job, Riley. So Charlie continued to press the issue, 1344 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 3: asking if he wanted him to move out or not. 1345 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 3: The dad eventually says, yes, just take your stuff and 1346 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 3: go Okay. 1347 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 2: The dad was probably like, just get out of my face, 1348 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 2: and he's like, whatever I can say to get him 1349 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 2: out of my face, we're gonna say it. 1350 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean at that point, after you've like repeatedly me like, 1351 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: are you sure you don't want me to leave? 1352 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 3: Are you sure you don't want me to leave? If 1353 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm the dad, I'm like, does he want to leave? 1354 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 2: Please? 1355 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: I guess you can leave. Yeah, whatever, do whatever you're 1356 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna do. 1357 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1358 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,439 Speaker 3: Anyway, him living with us has been very difficult so far. 1359 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 3: There is a psychology term called the self fulfilling prophecy, 1360 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 3: and I think he accurately fits the description, which is 1361 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 3: crazy that they just said that, because that is I 1362 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 3: was about to say that, and I felt like it 1363 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 3: was the wrong thing to say. Turns out I was wrong. 1364 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 3: He thinks that he is a burden to us and 1365 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 3: that we resent him for being in our space, so 1366 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 3: he treats us and talks to us as if we 1367 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 3: believe that. After a while, it starts to get annoying 1368 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 3: for Charlie to treat us this way and to degrade 1369 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: himself every chance he gets, so whenever we show any 1370 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 3: signs of us being upset with him, his belief is 1371 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 3: now confirmed and reinforced. Not only is he tough to 1372 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 3: be around socially, he doesn't chip in in the same 1373 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 3: way that we do, or at all for that matter. 1374 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 3: If someone has made dinner, he will eat with us, 1375 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 3: but if not, he goes out and gets fast food 1376 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 3: for himself. He will eat our snacks and drink what's 1377 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 3: in the fridge, but doesn't contribute to the groceries. 1378 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: That come on. 1379 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Dude, that's what that's basic. Because he was asked to 1380 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 2: help out with the chore plywood, he argued and then 1381 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 2: got into that mindset and did that. So I guess 1382 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 2: anytime anyone ever asked him to do that, that's the 1383 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: cycle he goes into. 1384 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just can't ask ask him a thing. 1385 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 2: That is so hard. 1386 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 3: He has a large dog that we have all chipped 1387 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 3: in to help take care of. At this point, we 1388 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,919 Speaker 3: have taken care of his dog significantly more than he has, 1389 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 3: buying it food, bathing it because it smelled disgusting, brushing 1390 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 3: it pretty much every His dog is much bigger than 1391 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 3: our little dog, and when they play, our little dog 1392 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 3: ends up getting hurt. Oh, we now keep our dog 1393 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 3: upstairs in our room when we leave to go to 1394 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 3: work out of fear that he may get hurt even more. 1395 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 3: This past week, we are all having dinner together that 1396 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 3: my mother in law has made. As we're eating, Charlie 1397 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 3: complains about the food, saying that he can make it 1398 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 3: way better. Hey, Charlie, you say that at the dinner table, 1399 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 3: I'll kick you out of the house myself. Even if 1400 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 3: I didn't make it. Mother in law's making that food, 1401 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 3: and you have the gall to be like, I'd make 1402 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 3: it better, dude. 1403 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 2: We that's like where I'm from, you monck someone's food. 1404 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 3: Oh no, don't are you from planet Earth, because that's 1405 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 3: pretty much I feel like a universal thing. 1406 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 5: You don't do that to the chef. 1407 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 2: I said something to my mom about I brought like 1408 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 2: some something some like dish to a thing, and I 1409 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 2: made one comment about it, like, hey, like two dowe 1410 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 2: on the edges. Never made me that dish again. I've 1411 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 2: never seen that dish again in my life. 1412 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: The thing about food critiques is you don't give him 1413 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 1: until you're asked for it, until they ask you about it, 1414 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, don't hold back, then you can do it. 1415 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1416 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,879 Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying, like, oh, the depression 1417 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 4: and anxiety, maybe he maybe on the maybe's on the spectrum. 1418 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 2: The spectrum undiagnosed. 1419 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 3: It's it's possible he needs there's no perform diagnosis. I 1420 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: think Op said that he's definitely bipolar, but I don't 1421 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 3: think Ope is in any position to make that diagnosis. 1422 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 2: But still he just thinks to see professional help, either 1423 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: be a therapist or someone in that field. Needs help 1424 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 2: figure out. 1425 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, needs help, he needs your emotion board. 1426 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dutchess says weaponized self deprecation slash depression. 1427 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, he is. 1428 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Yes, he's weaponized self deprecation is like the perfect description 1429 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 3: of this guy's behavior. 1430 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 5: How old is he? A lot of people are asking 1431 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 5: how what is I don't think we got one. 1432 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 2: Okay, but he's around their age. He was probably like 1433 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 2: in his twenties. Yeah, I would see he's definitely young. 1434 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 3: Like I would say young, I know, his early twenties, 1435 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 3: early twenties, yeah, early twenties, maybe mid twenties, young twenties. 1436 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, respect your elders. 1437 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 2: Old third old twenties. Okay, we'll do old twenties. 1438 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: How many times we got to teach you this lesson, 1439 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 1: old man? 1440 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 5: Anyway, we're the old men. 1441 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: I know. I was just making a quote because my 1442 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: brain works in memes and references, because I'm rotten. 1443 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:31,879 Speaker 2: Anyway. 1444 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Okay, So Charlie complained about the food, saying that he 1445 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 3: can make it way better. My wife chimes in and 1446 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 3: says that we would love to try any of his cooking. 1447 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 3: I tell my mother in law that I think her 1448 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,919 Speaker 3: food is good, trying to make light of the situation, 1449 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 3: and he tells me that because I have already been 1450 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 3: married to my wife for four years, I don't need 1451 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 3: to kiss my mother in law's butt anymore. I said 1452 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 3: that I wasn't butt kissing, but I genuinely thought her 1453 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 3: cooking was fine, and said that food tastes even better 1454 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 3: when you don't have to cook it. He told me 1455 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 3: that I was being shady and proceeded to degrade himself more. 1456 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1457 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: Uh, but you know where you can degrade us. If 1458 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: you want to degrade us, you can do so every 1459 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: weekday at three PMPST when we go live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, 1460 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and Twitch. 1461 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 3: Just tap our profile and you're in. We might even 1462 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 3: be live right now if you're watching this in the future, 1463 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 3: but before you go check hold on because we got 1464 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 3: a little bit of story left. Like do I feel 1465 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 3: bad for Charlie, Yes, But like, would I feel bad 1466 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 3: for Charlie if I was Ope and I'd been around 1467 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 3: this with so long? 1468 01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. 1469 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I think I would have been equally as worn down 1470 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: as Ope. However, clearly Charlie is in need of some 1471 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 1: kind of help. 1472 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's and that's the problem I have here 1473 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 3: is Op doesn't seem to be moving with any level. 1474 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 1: Of empathy for Charlie, which is not cool. 1475 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 2: Like, Charlie clearly needs help, Yeah, good guidance to fix himself. Yeah, 1476 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,879 Speaker 2: this isn't sustainable to live with. No, it's with yourself 1477 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 2: or in the house. And it's and it sucks too 1478 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 2: that they can't. They have no other options. They do, 1479 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: but it's very pricey right now for them to move 1480 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 2: out right be somewhere else. They've tried that it's really tough. 1481 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 2: Maybe could you talk to the dad that them with him? Well, 1482 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 2: I think you want to talk to your wife too, right, 1483 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 2: But like, if you want to move, could you move 1484 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 2: in with her dad? Because that's where the brother in 1485 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 2: law came from. 1486 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 3: They they got enough plywood over there to do to 1487 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 3: do projects as well, which that could be fun. But yeah, 1488 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 3: I think I think the main takeaway here is I'm 1489 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm kind of surprised that the lack of at the 1490 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 3: lack of empathy, like there's it just seems to be like, oh, 1491 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,680 Speaker 3: look how much it sucks for me to have to 1492 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 3: live with this guy. But it's like, hey, maybe you 1493 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 3: can help him instead of just complaining about him. 1494 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1495 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 3: Mirka Weiss says, his behavior is very clearly a cry 1496 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 3: for help. 1497 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Uh, he's he's he's. 1498 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 3: Looking for help hopefully the end of this story, could 1499 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 3: you pause, get some help. 1500 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Christinfle Hat says some people don't want help. They may 1501 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 2: want to wallow their own self made misery. 1502 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 5: Those type of people. 1503 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 4: I know some people like that where it's just it's 1504 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 4: kind of like not pick me vibes, but it's just like, oh, 1505 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,679 Speaker 4: feel bad for me, to feel bad for me again, dude, 1506 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 4: you're so draining. 1507 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 3: Well it's somebody said it earlier. It's it's like you're 1508 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 3: weaponizing your you know. 1509 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 4: Your depression or whatever, yeah, you know, bipolar whatever, whatever, 1510 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 4: it is. You're weaponizing it, and you're making it a 1511 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,680 Speaker 4: weapon towards yourself rectivity. 1512 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1513 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's a big negative cloud. It's 1514 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 4: a big negative cloud where it's like, I, at what 1515 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 4: point do I just stop feeling for you? 1516 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1517 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,560 Speaker 4: Agreed, But before we start getting to read the story, Uh, 1518 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 4: everyone was doing it. It was a moment of silence. 1519 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 1: I did I saw it in there, he guys. 1520 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: Silence in the chat, guys, no words in the chat, guys, 1521 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 2: nothing in the chat, guys. Pin drops in the chat, guys. 1522 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 2: We don't want to hear anything in the chat, guys. 1523 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 2: Silence in the chat, silence, shut up, right. 1524 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 4: And then another moment of silence, but not really. Vix 1525 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 4: Mix just foot donated forty more dollars. 1526 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: Wow, vix Mix says, sorry, nephews, I was late to 1527 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 1: the stream. You weren't late, vix makes. 1528 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 2: We were just early. We were just waiting on you. 1529 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 5: See, we did it so early. 1530 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 4: So when you guys came up three, you guys were 1531 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:48,639 Speaker 4: we started at twelve thirty? 1532 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? When did we start? Were we actually start. 1533 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,480 Speaker 5: Killing like one twenty ish? One twenty Yeah? 1534 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 4: Come on, man, step go on, Okay, we I called it. 1535 01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 4: As I sees it, I was like, well, yeah, it's 1536 01:13:59,439 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 4: gonna start. 1537 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 3: We've got a little bit left of the story. Let's 1538 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 3: let's hope it ends with Charlie getting some help. 1539 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 2: Here we go. 1540 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 1: I really don't know what to do at this point. 1541 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: My wife is very. 1542 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Distraught about the whole situation and feels crazy for feeling 1543 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,879 Speaker 3: like Charlie has been Wait, my wife is very distraught 1544 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 3: about the whole situation and feels crazy for feeling like 1545 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 3: Charlie has been acting ridiculous lately. They've tried talking it 1546 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,600 Speaker 3: out before, but it doesn't go well. She talked with 1547 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 3: her mom about it, and her mom has decided to 1548 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 3: not try to take sides. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Yeah, 1549 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 3: it's it's hard to have that conversation with somebody, but 1550 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 3: you gotta do exal help and you gotta keep doing it. 1551 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Yep. 1552 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,560 Speaker 3: And if the mom is like, I don't want to 1553 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 3: pick sides, this isn't about sides. 1554 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: This is about helping. It's about who's about helping your son? 1555 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, helping your son? Yeah? 1556 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also you know, now, in my own head, I 1557 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,719 Speaker 1: just realized that his comment about his mom's food because 1558 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: it's his mom, it's Charlie's mom, being like. 1559 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to it's not that good. Like 1560 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 3: it could have been a little more exad. I got 1561 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 3: actually really mad at that. I was like, how dare 1562 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 3: you disparat your cooking? But I'm like, okay, that might 1563 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 3: have actually been kind of like a lighthearted. 1564 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes families they they they. 1565 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 2: Do little jebs for fun. 1566 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:27,679 Speaker 1: It's just a fun little thing. 1567 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 3: My family doesn't do that. You can't joke around with 1568 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 3: my family. You say something like that, they'd be. 1569 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Like, what are you talking about your forehead? Can you 1570 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:38,799 Speaker 1: touch my forehead? 1571 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:39,839 Speaker 2: Please? 1572 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? It's bumpy, you still want to touch it? 1573 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Dude? Why all right? Get over here? 1574 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 1: What is I feel smarter? 1575 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 2: What? 1576 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 5: No, what are you doing? 1577 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I feel Okay, I feel I don't know, I don't 1578 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I feel right now, But to circle back, yeah, 1579 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I want I feel like I want Charlie to be 1580 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: in therapy. 1581 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 5: I'm kind of at a loss for words. What just 1582 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 5: happened there? 1583 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I think I need therapy. 1584 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,799 Speaker 2: After Riley touched my forehead,