WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Jason Garrett, Pat Forde

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and the Dan. That's Dan Patrick Show. Interesting night

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<v Speaker 2>last night, I had two costumes. I was Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was an ogre and ran out of

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<v Speaker 2>candy and I handed out pictures of me. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>told the kids I didn't have candy, so if they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get a picture with me, they could. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the program Our two. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys head

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<v Speaker 2>coach now working for NBC Football Night in America, will

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<v Speaker 2>stop by our good buddy. Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated

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<v Speaker 2>covering college football. You had the initial college football rankings

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<v Speaker 2>that came out last night. In surprise, surprise, Ohio State's

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<v Speaker 2>the number one team in the country. But we're more

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<v Speaker 2>interested in Michigan and what's happening with Jim Harbaugh. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of vague, but it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>vaguely serious. But social media is keeping this alive. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I told you when this first started, the College

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<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff Committee does not care about Jim Harbaugh and

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<v Speaker 2>the so called spygate. This will be about the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Ten and the NCAA, not the college football playoffs. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven three DP show email addressdpat Danpatrick dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter handle at DP show pull question for hour two

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<v Speaker 2>before we bring in Jason Garrett Seaton. Let me just

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<v Speaker 2>hit hour one real quickly. Who had the best week

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<v Speaker 2>so far? Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>It's tied between the seventy six ers and the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine ers at about thirty percent, followed closely at twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four percent by the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they had a great week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how good this job is. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>start there with Jason Garrett, former Cowboys head coach. He's

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<v Speaker 2>on Football Night in America, also an analyst for Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame Football. Good morning, Jason. How attractive is that Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>job to you? With that roster they have right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dan, there's only thirty two of these jobs. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're attractive, and you know, they're certainly going through a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a challenging time. And anytime you have

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<v Speaker 1>a regime and then you have a new regime and

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's transition within that, it's more challenging because they're

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<v Speaker 1>turning it over and they've made some of these decisions

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<v Speaker 1>and now they haven't had a chance to finish. And

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<v Speaker 1>now a new guy comes in and he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan. So I think that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's a good starting point to

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy like Devonte Adams. You have a playmaker

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side of the ball, you got Josh Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got some weapons over there that you

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<v Speaker 1>certainly can build around, you know. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for Nick Saban for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>and he used to always talk about relative to what,

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<v Speaker 1>and so as a quarterback, you say, hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo, and some people say, hey, he's not Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not Joe Burrow, But relative to what, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams that would like to have Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Garoppolo as their quarterback. And so you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are some pieces of place there on the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, and I think the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>gets a chance to go in there, hopefully he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to have some impact on building the team

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<v Speaker 1>the way he wants to build it. But there's some

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<v Speaker 1>cornerstone pieces there that you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Max Crosby is also there. He almost fits

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<v Speaker 2>that image of the old Raiders. But I just I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder Jimmy Garoppolo is not there for the long haul.

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams contract is crazy after this year, Josh Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 2>you have him for a little while, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh pick in the draft, Like, is that something

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<v Speaker 2>that would entice somebody who already has a good job,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say in college, that they would want to coach

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if they have a desire to coach in the NFL. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the devil's in the details over how much

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<v Speaker 1>say they have to build their kind of program. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm remiss and not mentioning Max Crosby. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite players in football. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell is a good example up in Detroit of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had an opportunity to go in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're building the team the way he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>build it. And so I think any job in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the opportunity to do that and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a little time to do that, is attractive and

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<v Speaker 1>you build it in the image that you want. And

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<v Speaker 1>Max Crosby being a cornerstone piece I think would fit

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<v Speaker 1>that bill for the Raiders. So you know, you dive

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<v Speaker 1>in and you go. The obvious challenge is you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the same division as the Chiefs and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hell, they're thirty two of them, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's the heck of an opportunity for somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>How involved is the coach at the trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it depends on the building.

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<v Speaker 2>How involved were you certainly involved in the discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I thought the communication that we had when

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<v Speaker 1>we were at our best in Dallas was really good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leading up to the draft, leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, and then certainly throughout the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we traded for Amari Cooper one year and

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't right up against the trade deadline, but it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we needed a player at that position, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had we had extensive discussions about who that player was,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually he became available and he made a huge

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<v Speaker 1>difference on our team.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever said I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>trade for that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly yes, and you have healthy discussions. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to sign that guy, I don't want to trade for

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. I don't want to draft that guy. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a collaborative effort. The personnel people in

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<v Speaker 1>the really good organizations are really good at what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the job of the head coach to constantly

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<v Speaker 1>provide the vision for the football team and then if

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<v Speaker 1>you have good communication, you say, does this decision fit

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<v Speaker 1>that vision? And the teams that are aligned that way

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<v Speaker 1>on a consistent basis and acquiring players are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that play at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Jason Garrett Football Night in America studio analyst,

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<v Speaker 2>also an analyst for Notre Dame Football, Help me understand

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<v Speaker 2>what Dabo Sweeney was railing against a caller on his

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<v Speaker 2>radio show? Is he I thought it was maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger picture where it's like the manager who tells the

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<v Speaker 2>umpire throw me out because I want my team to

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<v Speaker 2>get fired up. You got Notre Dame coming to town.

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<v Speaker 2>And it almost felt like, you know, stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pressing me to be what I once was or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also wants fire up his team against Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>They're underdogs at home against Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's probably a pretty good on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he he's been so good if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what that program has done. I mean he's been

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<v Speaker 1>so good for such a long time. Uh, and not

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<v Speaker 1>only winning games and going to the championship game and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, but you know, developing and developing players.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love Dabbo. I'm a huge fan. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to do the Notre Dame Clemson game

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<v Speaker 1>last year and just just getting a more intimate glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>of that program, I'm so I'm so impressed. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's obvious frustration there and you have so much success

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time and then they're not what they

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<v Speaker 1>were this year. I'm sure he's feeling some of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I think people need to step back

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<v Speaker 1>and see what he's done and not only the wins,

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<v Speaker 1>but the impact he's had. And you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good story about Dabbo. You know, when you're a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach in the NFL. Leading up to the draft, you

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<v Speaker 1>call all your guys in college football and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about your guys. And for years conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban or other guys, they've had so many players,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you try to figure out the evaluation. I

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<v Speaker 1>worked for Nick for two years. I understood how he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about players, and he loves certain guys. It's one line,

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<v Speaker 1>just take the guy, you know, if he has truble,

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<v Speaker 1>if he has trouble with guys. He kind of beats

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<v Speaker 1>around the bush a little bit and says, hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a good structure in place, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a really good structure in place, this guy can be

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<v Speaker 1>successful for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the guy that he just said, just take him?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's so many guys that you know, Jonathan Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Jonathan Allen. Just take the guy he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play for, you know, And he's right. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just such an easy evaluation. But you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to Dabbo, you have to decipher the guys

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<v Speaker 1>because every guy is great, every guy is incredible, every

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<v Speaker 1>guy you know, and then you could figure out the

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<v Speaker 1>system to say, Okay, this guy's really better than this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and you'll work your way through it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>bring that up to say that he's had such a

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<v Speaker 1>positive impact on so many people on football. He has

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<v Speaker 1>such great enthusiasm. So to see him front spread like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I hope he gets his own spirit

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<v Speaker 1>back because it's a really good thing for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ran the Jets, do you want Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>back this season?

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's a health It's just simply a healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say he's healthy, he's cleared. They'd say there's two

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<v Speaker 2>or three games left, got a chance for the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's one of the greatest ones that ever walked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and to give him a chance to play,

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<v Speaker 1>is he the same player that he was ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that, but he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best players in football. And if you could get him

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<v Speaker 1>back and he is truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Healthy, But you're risking next season. What's that you're risking

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<v Speaker 2>next season? Aren't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? I mean, And to me, that's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some guys get the competitive spirit going and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to beat the timeline. I got an ACL

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to come back in eight months. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to come back in And I have a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>respect for injuries and making sure that you give guys

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of time. And that comes from experience of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>allowing a guy to come back earlier than he should have.

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<v Speaker 1>And because we're all competitive, we all want the guy

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and he's shown you in practice, So I

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<v Speaker 1>would be a little concerned about rushing this because just

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of that injury. But if the question is

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<v Speaker 1>he completely healthy, absolutely, you wanted to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I'm trying to understand Deshaun Watson when he's

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<v Speaker 2>medically cleared and then they say that he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to play. How does that happen that you're medically cleared

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<v Speaker 2>but then he doesn't play well.

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<v Speaker 1>Every injury situation is unique in and of itself, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a head coach, it's one of the hardest things

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<v Speaker 1>you have to manage. And and you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>without speaking specifically about him, because I'm not in the conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a little issue like that, you really

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<v Speaker 1>got to get to the bottom of it and and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out the why of that, and and it takes

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<v Speaker 1>constant conversation, and you know, some guys have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a track mentality in that they need everything

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfect. Some guys are mutters, Hey, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 1>they tape it up, spit on it. Let's get going.

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<v Speaker 1>We can I can go play. And so again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not speaking specifically to Deshaun, but that's that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum that you get on and you say, okay, can

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<v Speaker 1>he play without everything being perfect? You know? And so

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<v Speaker 1>you got to work through those and they're challenging, they

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<v Speaker 1>really are. Ultimately, it's a collaborative effort. It's players input

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<v Speaker 1>along with doctors and trainers and and as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you just try to manage it best you can.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, you need to make a choice here on

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<v Speaker 2>your quarterback Sunday night, Ben Bills, you were the head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>You're starting with Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always ask these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do, Brady, who you taking Josh Allen Joe Burrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow goes to San Francisco and doesn't throw an

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<v Speaker 1>incomplete pass. He's phenomenal, and you're asking me this question.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them both, obviously, who doesn't. They're both great

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be great players for the next

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, they have chances to be Hall of Famers.

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<v Speaker 5>All of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Josh Allen. I don't like him, I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him. I love his competitive spirit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone once told me that it took thirteen people to

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<v Speaker 1>get secretaried in the gates before he won by thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three lens. You know, Josh Allen reminds me of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He reminds me of this incredible player that you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to constantly make sure we get him in the

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<v Speaker 1>gates and let him go.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they do this running late, he's running less,

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<v Speaker 2>But is he running smarter?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to me, it's the secretary of analogy is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily his running. It's just his you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go make the play. I'm going to put

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Buffalo on my shoulders and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go do it. And experience tells me that over

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen game season in the NFL, that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they're at their best, it's collaborative. Everybody's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of it. He's certainly the focal point. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if he does that on a consistent basis and

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<v Speaker 1>continues to learn how to do that, and they build

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<v Speaker 1>the team that way. I love him to death. His

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<v Speaker 1>competitive spirit is rare for me. But the other guy's

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<v Speaker 1>off the charts. I mean, Joe cool is something else.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you answered it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, but by a nose. I'd take Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back again to secretariat where you did. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about when news. Hey great to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 2>Have fun on Sunday, Bill's Bengals on NBC and Peacock

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<v Speaker 2>that'll start at to seven Eastern Football Night in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jason, Thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I always enjoy it, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you got to put him on the hot seat

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<v Speaker 2>every time he comes on, right, you just you don't

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<v Speaker 2>let him know what hot seat? What seed is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be warm?

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<v Speaker 5>There? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>a Panini America. Speaking of Josh Allen, here is Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Brady giving advice to Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 6>I think sometimes he gets used and he wants to

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<v Speaker 6>run it because he knows he can gain yards there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of confidence in it. But the only problem is,

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<v Speaker 6>from my standpoint, you're putting yourself in harm's way. And

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<v Speaker 6>when you put yourself in harm's way, it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 6>much for someone to land on you, you know, to

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<v Speaker 6>set you back. And I would love to see Josh

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<v Speaker 6>save those from very special moments and special case asians

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<v Speaker 6>to run the ball rather than to run the ball

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<v Speaker 6>six minutes into the game on a on a second

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<v Speaker 6>and six, you know, and not that he shouldn't run,

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<v Speaker 6>but when he does run, slide and make sure no

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<v Speaker 6>one hits you, because I don't want to see him ever,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, get hurt. And I want to see him

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<v Speaker 6>out there playing every week because he's such a he's

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<v Speaker 6>such a dud.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can change though. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Newton when we watched him, we're like man. When

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<v Speaker 2>he's great, he is, there's nobody like him, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you start to take those hits

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually he's out of the league at an

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<v Speaker 2>early age, thirty two to thirty three.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, pulling In twenty twenty two, Josh Allen attempted eight

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<v Speaker 7>rushes per game this year. He's down to four point

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<v Speaker 7>five rushing attests for per game. That's down almost fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 7>The hits are different, but he's never run for less

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<v Speaker 7>than six times a game in his career, so this

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<v Speaker 7>is by far the lowest.

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<v Speaker 2>Of his career.

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<v Speaker 7>But there's no sliding going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he's second on the all time list

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<v Speaker 2>with rushing touchdowns for a quarterback. I think Cam has

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five and I think Josh has forty five.

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<v Speaker 7>Josh has forty three, forty three and and you know, half,

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<v Speaker 7>not even half of a career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what if he ends up with eighty eighty rushing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Josh Allen did respond to Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had this to say.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying that he's wrong, but you could get

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<v Speaker 8>hurt in the pocket just as much as you can

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<v Speaker 8>outside the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only caveat that I have for that.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta go win a football game.

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<v Speaker 8>And sometimes it calls upon me doing something of putting

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<v Speaker 8>my body on the line for my teammates, because how

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<v Speaker 8>much I do love my teammates, and how much you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I see them working their tails off too, so I

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<v Speaker 8>gotta give them everything that I have when I'm on

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<v Speaker 8>the football field. And that's where the flip for me

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<v Speaker 8>is so hard to turn off is because I just

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<v Speaker 8>hear so much about winning football games that sometimes it does,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, cost the riffs to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>higher than eating the role.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I can respect your toughness, but I have to

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<v Speaker 2>respect your intelligence where you pick your spots there And

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<v Speaker 2>what Brady is saying, second and six in the first quarter, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to take on two defenders second and

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<v Speaker 2>six in the fourth quarter final two minutes? Then I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that because you can say I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>hard because my teammates are playing hard. They need you

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the game, so you can't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>If they get hurt, you can still survive. If you

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt, it's over. And that's the difference here. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me take a break. Should Ohio State be the

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<v Speaker 2>number one ranked team in the country, And is Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Harball really in trouble. We'll have that for you

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<v Speaker 2>That's Peacock here comes Saturday night. First playoff rankings came out,

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<v Speaker 2>and surprise, surprise at least, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people were surprised. Ohio State at the top of the heap,

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<v Speaker 2>and George's in there, Michigan's in there. Pat Forty from

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<v Speaker 2>What's the committee telling us about those rankings?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I think they did value Ohio State's big victories

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<v Speaker 9>over Notre Dame and Penn State.

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<v Speaker 5>But the other thing they're telling me, Dan.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that they basically just slaughted everybody by how many

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<v Speaker 9>losses you have. The top five are all undefeated. They're

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<v Speaker 9>the undefeated ones in the Power five conferences. The next

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<v Speaker 9>eight are the eight one loss teams in Power five conferences,

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<v Speaker 9>and then you get to the two loss teams, So

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<v Speaker 9>strength to schedule as of now is less important than

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<v Speaker 9>how many times you've lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me the one loss team you think that has

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<v Speaker 2>the best chance of being in the final four.

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<v Speaker 9>I think Oregon because I like their chances to win

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<v Speaker 9>a rematch with Washington or whoever they may face in

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<v Speaker 9>the PAC twelve Championship game. Three point loss on the

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<v Speaker 9>road wild atmosphere kind of gave the game away.

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<v Speaker 5>They've looked great since then.

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<v Speaker 9>They're gonna play some real high quality games here down

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<v Speaker 9>the stretch, so I think there's strength to schedule going

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<v Speaker 9>to be there, and if they get in with one

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<v Speaker 9>loss to the Clubhouse at twelve and one, I think

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<v Speaker 9>they can make the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the knock on Georgia, And maybe it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big knock. They are second in the country, but first

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season not formidable, consistently formidable.

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<v Speaker 5>I think two things.

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<v Speaker 9>They didn't play very many good teams, you know, just

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<v Speaker 9>not a good non conference schedule, and then Kentucky was

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<v Speaker 9>the only ring team they played. They wiped the field

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<v Speaker 9>with Kentucky, and now Kentucky doesn't look that good. So

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<v Speaker 9>there's not that much on the resume yet. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>they were not. They kind of slept walk through some

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<v Speaker 9>of those games early. But now the schedule is gonna

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<v Speaker 9>ramp up considerably. They're playing ranked teams the next three

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<v Speaker 9>weeks in a row, Missouri, Mississippi, Tennessee, and then you're

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<v Speaker 9>looking at an SEC championship game, probably against Alabama, maybe LSU.

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<v Speaker 9>So their strength of schedule will be there. I think

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<v Speaker 9>if they keep winning, they will pass Ohio State, but

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<v Speaker 9>maybe not in the end. After Ohio State plays Michigan,

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<v Speaker 9>we'll see what happens there.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me the team that is undefeated that will be

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<v Speaker 2>the first to have a loss. Of those undefeated, I think.

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<v Speaker 9>Keep an eye on Washington there. Good team had a

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<v Speaker 9>great season, but they've struggled of late in the schedule. Wow,

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<v Speaker 9>these next three weeks really tough, all playing ranked teams,

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<v Speaker 9>two of the three on the road, and if they

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<v Speaker 9>play those teams the way they played Arizona State and Stanford,

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<v Speaker 9>they're gonna lose at least once, if not twice.

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<v Speaker 2>In that section, what's dabo'swy saying in that rant that

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<v Speaker 2>he had on his radio show, whether it's to the

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<v Speaker 2>fan base, to his players alumni, You're lucky to have me,

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<v Speaker 2>is what he is saying.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think there's any doubt about that that he

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<v Speaker 9>feels that way. I think he's also he may not

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<v Speaker 9>say it out loud, but he wishes it was nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>ninety two, you know, where players didn't get paid and

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<v Speaker 9>they won this crazy transfer portal and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 9>But that's the way it is. And he hasn't adapted

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<v Speaker 9>well at all. That's what he's going to have to do.

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<v Speaker 9>He's gonna have to modernize his modernize his program, modernize

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<v Speaker 9>his approach. But that was very much a you need

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<v Speaker 9>to appreciate me for what I've done. This is Clemson

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<v Speaker 9>and I won two national titles. Let's have a little respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Can Caleb Williams How does he play himself back into

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<v Speaker 2>the Heisman picture?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, he's got some good opportunities starting this week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>him against Michael Pennix is going to be a big

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<v Speaker 9>time game. And then they've got you know, they've still

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<v Speaker 9>got Oregon State on the schedule. I belie theyve got

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<v Speaker 9>UCLA at the end.

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<v Speaker 5>There. He's got some high profile opportunities.

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<v Speaker 9>They've just they got to win the games and he's

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<v Speaker 9>got to play great and to win the games, you're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna have to make your make sure your defense is

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<v Speaker 9>something other than horrible, which the number of points they've

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<v Speaker 9>given them their last five games is the most in

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<v Speaker 9>a five game stretch in USC history.

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<v Speaker 5>It's that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was wondering at the start of the season.

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I knew the defense wasn't going to be good. I

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't know they'd be this bad. But he was always

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 2>going to have to stay in the game because they

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>needed to score. Therefore he was going to put up

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>big numbers. I just didn't realize that they're an average team.

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>They have a you know, obviously a great quarterback, but

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the team seems average.

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I mean defensively they are not good.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 9>The offensive line leaky, you know, running backs are just

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 9>kind of pedestrian, and they've got good receivers. And the

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 9>other thing too, I feel like watching Caleb that he's

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 9>almost trying to make this spectacular play all the time

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 9>instead of just making plays.

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 5>And you know, we've all watched quarterbacks long enough.

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 9>Tom Brady didn't make that many spectacular plays, but he

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 9>made the right play all the time and they won

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 9>all the time because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Pat forty, the senior writer Sports Illustrated

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>covering college football. Where are we with the Michigan story?

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<v Speaker 9>It's just that, you know, the daily gift. I mean,

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 9>what's it going to be under the tree today? And

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 9>we'll see. But the Central Michigan angle now is fascinating.

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 9>The maybe probably Connor Stallions was on the sideline for

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 9>the Central Michigan home or away opener at Michigan State.

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 9>Jim mcelwaye, the Central Michigan coach last night, referred to

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 9>him as the sigin stealing guy. They haven't admitted that

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 9>he was there, but it's clear it was him.

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>But is he in disguise as well as like Bobby

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Valentine being in the dugout when he got thrown out

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of a game in disguise? So this guy, he's got

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 2>a Central Michigan hat on, and does he have a

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<v Speaker 2>mustache or glasses?

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<v Speaker 9>He's got to, you know, go tee. But he's got

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 9>to wearing sunglasses. It was a night game. He's wearing sunglasses.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 9>He's got the Central Michigan coaching garb on. How did

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 9>he know what they were going to wear? Where did

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 9>he get the bench pass from? You can't tell me.

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 9>I'm unconvinced that Central Michigan has no idea how this happened,

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 9>let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But how much trouble is Michigan and Jim Harball in.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think Michigan. I don't think Jim Harbaugh is

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<v Speaker 9>in trouble yet for this. He's in trouble for the

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 9>other investigation. Yeah, you know, there hasn't been anything tying

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 9>this to him as of yet. The question from an

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.360
<v Speaker 9>NC double A standpoint is you start piling up various

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 9>level one violations and there's a strict liability rule now

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 9>that he could get hit for, but that's next year. Like,

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 9>if you want to go win the national title this year,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 9>it's going to be impossible for the NC douablea to

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<v Speaker 9>touch them. I don't think the Big ten has a

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<v Speaker 9>whole lot of interest in doing it. Michigan itself certainly

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't have any interest in penalizing itself at this point,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think that there's definitely efforts underway to paint

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<v Speaker 9>this as just way, Hey, we got a psychopath on

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 9>the staff that was doing this stuff himself, and that

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 9>may be the truth. I don't know, but we've got

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 9>to find that out. But right now it's Connor Stallions

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<v Speaker 9>on an island in disguise, looking, you know, trying to

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 9>do who knows what.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but why would you do this? You want acknowledgment

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 2>from Jim Harball. You want to prove your worth to him.

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to be on the coaching staff, you want

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>to be elevated. It doesn't make sense. Is somebody's going

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to go rogue and they're probably going to paint him

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<v Speaker 2>like he was a rogue employee. Well he was given

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 2>the information to somebody.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, right, absolutely, no, I say, like, that's my question.

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 9>Did the rest of the Michigan staff have no curiosity

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 9>at all about where Connor Stillions was getting his sign

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 9>stealing information? Like it's just hey, good stuff, Connor Common?

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 9>Or was it hey, how are you doing this?

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 5>The other thing, he's pretty proud of himself.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 9>He used to be on social media and with his

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.360
<v Speaker 9>friends and everything talking about what he was doing as

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 9>far as you know, work for Michigan and everything.

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 5>Do we really think that.

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 9>He wasn't bragging like, hey, you know around the building,

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 9>look what I got. I mean, we don't have the

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 9>proof of that, but human nature tells me that This

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 9>guy was probably talking to somebody about you're not going

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 9>to believe the stuff I'm coming up with on Ohio State,

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 9>on Penn State, on Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 2>Will this affect the quarterback JJ McCarthy's Heisman candidacy? That is,

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think an unfair advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right?

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 9>I don't think so, But you know, I mean, the

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 9>Heisman Trophy has been called like the Nobel Peace Prize

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 9>of football, you know, where you everything has to be

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 9>virtuous and lovely and wonderful. And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>stuff going on around.

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 5>Michigan right now.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 9>You know, we'll see how they play the rest of

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 9>the way, but I don't anticipate that becoming a voter issue.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>The last year of the current college playoff format. How's

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the regular season next year going to be affected?

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<v Speaker 9>It's gonna be this season on Rocket Fuel. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 9>be fantastic. At this time. Instead of having five unbeatens

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 9>and you know, eight one loss teams we're looking at

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 9>and really probably only like three one loss teams, we're

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 9>gonna be looking at like twenty twenty five teams that

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 9>are gonna still have a chance to get into the playoff.

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 9>And so I think the excitement level for all the

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 9>fans is going to be more widespread. There's gonna be

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 9>more speculation, more drama of hey, you got to win

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 9>this game to stay in playoff contention. Now, on the

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 9>other side of it, the top teams will be able

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 9>to lose a game. There's less at stake in individual games.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 9>You're gonna be able to lose and still get into

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 9>the playoff. But I think there's just gonna be more

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 9>excitement for more fan bases nationwide.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I remember when this came out and

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>there were some analysts said this is bad for college football,

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and I go, no, you got more teams and the

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>games in November are going to be meaningful, you know that,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and maybe incept like your schedule and how you treat

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>that if you have a loss, When you have a loss,

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>two losses, can you still get in? I could a

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>three loss team get in? I think brings in more

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>fan bases for a longer period of time, and you know,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe these bowl games actually mean something.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no doubt about it.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 9>I mean I think that that there's just gonna be

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 9>a lot of fascination with how this thing unfolds. And yeah,

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 9>fans are going to be I think, eating up the

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 9>you know, the mock brackets and how they look just

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 9>like they do in college basketball. And so there's just

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 9>more involvement, more at stake for more teams. And yeah,

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 9>people are gonna be sweating through all these games in November.

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 9>Instead of you know, just narrowing your focus, yeah, to

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 9>a small number, it's gonna be a much wider number.

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 9>And then when we get campus games in those first

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 9>round of playoffs, I think it's going to be fantastic, unbelievable.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to you, Pat, thanks for joining us,

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>my pleasure, Dan, thank you, Pad forty Sports Illustrated. Yeah,

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's wonderful. I think the regular season, you know,

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people said all the games

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>aren't going to mean as much. I think there's gonna

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>be more games that mean more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's kind of like to me, like I equate

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 3>it to who really cares about winning the Pennant when

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you want to win the World Series?

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Is winning the Big Ten now? Is that a big deal?

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Or is like, well we can lose the Big Ten?

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Who cares about that? You want to win the national Championship? Right,

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 3>you want to get to the thing that say, like

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 3>what Pat was kind of talking about, right, he was

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>just like, yeah, people are going to be eating up

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>all the rankings and the mock drafts and all the

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 3>mock stuff or whatever, like that's his business. It's going

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 3>to be great for his business. It's great for our business,

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>there's no doubt about that. But I don't know necessarily that.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But if you're a fan base and your team is

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>let's say twenty second right now, how about Missouri at

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Georgia this week now, Now that I mean, that's a

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>really big game for them. They have to win that

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of game. If we had next year's format, then

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're like, even if we lose

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to Georgia, hey we're still in this. You know, go

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>down to the twenty second ranked team, they still have

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 2>a chance here twenty thirty, you know, twenty four, twenty

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>fifth ranked team. A couple of wins, you move up.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Now you're in the mix there, Yeah, Pauline, Yeah.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 7>I've got the schedule this weekend and it bears that out.

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 7>Oklahoma is nine, Oklahoma State's twenty two. They beat Oklahoma,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 7>that they're right back in the thicke of things for

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 7>a late playoff spot.

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>You look at in next year's format.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 7>Right, next year's format, Washington USC USC is not really

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 7>playing for anything more. Next year they'd be playing to

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 7>get back in it. Oregon State is ranked sixteen, UCLA's

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 7>ranked nineteen. All these games would matter. I think, what

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 7>is the other game? A and m at old Miss?

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, miss, you're trading some games that matter for them,

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 3>but then discounting the ones that didn't matter. Those two

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 3>losses don't matter now, well, USC, they do, No, they don't.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>We just said that they're still right in it.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they would be. They would get

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>in the top twelve. They still have to win the

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve. Yeah, but they're still right in it now.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>The two losses didn't matter, it would because then they'd

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>be in the Big Ten and they would be playing

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>in a conference championship. So next year at this time,

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>if they had that record, Ohio State and Michigan are undefeated,

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 2>so they wouldn't have a chance. This year they might

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>if we had twelve teams, but next year in a

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>new conference probably won't matter. All right, we'll get some

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>phone calls here, Gary and Santa Maria, Hi, Gary, Hey,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>Five eleven and a husky two thirty husky?

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 4>When I lived in Michigan too, the night before Halloween

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 4>was called Devil's Night, and Fritzy was to the show yesterday?

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 4>What Garoppolo was to the game Monday night?

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, a little harsh, yeah, accurate, harsh Yeah, Well you

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>pooh poohed Halloween. Did you have a good night?

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 10>I did have a good night. We had a lot

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 10>of kids coming over it. It was actually a lot

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 10>of fun.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you yell at anybody any older kids?

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 5>I didn't yell at anybody.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 10>But it was a came walking into the house for

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 10>some reason, and his older brother said, Billy, we don't

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 10>just walk into people's houses.

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 11>What are you doing.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 10>It was just a cute little moment, his little blond kid,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 10>he must have been six years old. And I opened

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 10>the door and I'm going to give him the candy

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 10>they stick their bags at trick or Try. He just

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 10>keme walking into the house and he's looking around and

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 10>looking up at the chandelier. It's really warm in here.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 10>And his brother, Billy, you know, just walk into people's houses.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 6>Like that.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 10>It's a cute little moment. Okay, just wandering around the

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 10>inside like my living room.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but you did, okay Daniell today, but no kit.

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 10>Cats, three Musketeers, Twiss Milky ways. Everybody was happy and

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 10>it was some cute costumes.

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<v Speaker 5>Was great.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, little kids.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you should have taken a kid down, put him

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<v Speaker 7>like a half Nelson and teach them you can't walk

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<v Speaker 7>into stranger's houses.

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<v Speaker 10>This guy couldn't believe this kid just kind of waltzed

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<v Speaker 10>in there. But it was funny. This older brother kind

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<v Speaker 10>of at least new enough to say, you're not supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that. Let's take a break here. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>more phone calls as well. Ian Rappaport will join us

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<v Speaker 2>in the final hour of the show. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline. Also Tom Brady's involvement in the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>When is he going to be a part owner and

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<v Speaker 2>how involved is he going to be with the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have that for you coming up as well. Back

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<v Speaker 12>God play.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the play of the day.

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<v Speaker 11>Check this out and bounced past comes to Durant and

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<v Speaker 11>Durant we'll have it knocked away.

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<v Speaker 5>It's strolling by Johnson.

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<v Speaker 11>It takes a sideways love it ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>The Spurs take the lead with two second vating.

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<v Speaker 12>It's one fifteen, one fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>The steal by Kelton Johnson and the basket. That's courtesy

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<v Speaker 2>of the Spurs Radio Network. What a wild finish. Spurs

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<v Speaker 2>were down twenty came back. Keldon Johnson steals the ball

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<v Speaker 2>from KD gets the go ahead basket. Wow crazy, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Tune into USA and NBC November third and fourth to

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<v Speaker 2>catch all of the action. I had some phone calls here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Mark Davis, you own the Raiders, who can

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<v Speaker 2>you bring in that will be between Mark Davis and

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<v Speaker 2>let's say the GM and the coaches. Can you bring

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<v Speaker 2>in a football person who can help? Because they've tried,

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<v Speaker 2>they failed, they're still paying John Gruden. I believe they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be paying Josh McDaniels his entire salary.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this an attractive job? I give you go, man,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Raiders. They got a great receiver, great

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<v Speaker 2>running back and a great edge rusher. You got a

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<v Speaker 2>new stadium, and then you go, well, we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback and DeVante Adams contract is terrible coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>But is this an attractive job? Because if you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have the Bear's job where they don't have anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>or you could have the Raiders job where they do

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<v Speaker 2>have some quality talent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, these are just the internal struggles that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's none of the external factors that come along with

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<v Speaker 3>having young rich men in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>But is this an attractive job? I don't know because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working for an owner who's cheap, he's not his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>And can you recreate one of the great images Fan

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<v Speaker 2>bases that we've had in football history. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you can't like Vegas is glitchy type, Where's

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders. I mean that was John Matusac and Lyle

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<v Speaker 2>Alzado and Howie Long, and you know there was that

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of they were different than everybody else in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>even their quarterback. You know, he had Kenny Stabler, Darryl Lamonica,

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<v Speaker 2>the mad Bomber, Artchell. I mean they had all of these,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Tatum, Fred Blitnikoff.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Paul, if you look at the Raiders situation, they

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<v Speaker 7>can easily move on from Jimmy Garoppolo at the end

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<v Speaker 7>of this season won't be that big of a hit.

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<v Speaker 7>They're probably going to have a top eight draft pick,

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<v Speaker 7>so they could be in that Michael Pennox window to

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<v Speaker 7>get a new quarterback. It seems I think it's more

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<v Speaker 7>attractive than the Washington Commanders as far as like the

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<v Speaker 7>Commanders have a decent roster.

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<v Speaker 2>They have probably a better roster or deeper, But they

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<v Speaker 2>just traded two defensive players, two starters. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get why they did it if I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>contracts here with Montrez Sweat last year of his rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Bears are going to have to pay him. Are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to franchise him or are they going to give

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<v Speaker 2>him a long term contract. Chase Young is in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth year of his rookie deal. Washington didn't pick up

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<v Speaker 2>his fifth year option. He would be a free agent

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<v Speaker 2>after the season. Niners don't have to pay him much

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<v Speaker 2>this season feels like it might be a one year rental.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't so, Washington. I think's going to be open,

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago open, Raiders open. Let's see how it goes with

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<v Speaker 2>the Chargers. I don't know what other jobs Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>might be, depending on how that goes in the second

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season. But if you're going to look

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<v Speaker 2>at these openings, do I want the Bears job because

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<v Speaker 2>I can start. I am starting over and I might

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<v Speaker 2>be starting over. With two of the top three or

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<v Speaker 2>four picks in the draft. That's enticing rookie contracts. But

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<v Speaker 2>it it still comes back to this. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things at play. When somebody says, oh man, you

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<v Speaker 2>got all these draft picks, Well, look when the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>had all of those draft picks. It's who's drafting the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens for some reason. Well, the reason is they're really good.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to find a great player, not necessarily in

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<v Speaker 2>a high position, like they're really really good at what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. The Browns have been really really bad at

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<v Speaker 2>what they do with all those draft picks. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know, who's making the picks? How good

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<v Speaker 2>are you? What's your track record? And also going back

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<v Speaker 2>to Josh McDaniels, he is the poster child for what

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<v Speaker 2>I've said for years on this show. Not every coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>should be a head coach. There's certain coordinators who should

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<v Speaker 2>be coordinators, and he is certainly one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't do anything to distinguish himself in Denver and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly nothing here in Las Vegas. There are guys because

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<v Speaker 2>when you run a team, you're a CEO. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>a coordinator, all you're worried about is that side of

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the ball offensive defensive coordinator. Now you got to be

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<v Speaker 2>involved in special teams, offense, defense, deal with the fans,

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the media, deal with the owner. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot involved in this, and Josh McDaniels failed. Yes, Marvin,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think.

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<v Speaker 13>The Raiders or the Commanders if they get new head

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<v Speaker 13>coaches should try to make a big splash and try

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<v Speaker 13>to get a big name or just the best guy

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<v Speaker 13>for the job, like an up and coming coordinator. Maybe

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<v Speaker 13>try to prove himselfs well.

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<v Speaker 2>Does Eric Benemy get promoted that this was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be he had a chance to I'm away from Andy Reid,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes. Now we get a chance to see if

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Bnemy is going to be a head coach. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't talked about the offense we did at the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the season. People did, Hey, Eric Benemy, We're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that anymore. I would think that ownership would

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:56.479
<v Speaker 2>move on from Ron Rivera and Eric beenemy. Now, Sam Howe,

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you have enough sample size where you go, all right,

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>we've seen enough and I'm gonna guess with this new

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>ownership and they spend a lot of money on this,

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna want You're gonna want a clean house. You're

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to try to get an elite quarterback, big

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>name quarterback, maybe a trade for one, but I don't

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>think you want to bring in like, let me bring

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>in a Jimmy Garoppolo or whoever you want to throw

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>out there. You know, Kirk Cousins, bring him back you

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 2>need to make a splash. You got the one year

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<v Speaker 2>haul pass by taking over for Dan Snyder next year,

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the Washington fans are gonna be like, uh, what have

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>we got here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 13>Mark, And if you're the Bears and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 13>go for that head coaching spot, do you have the

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 13>longest leash because the team is so bad? They say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 13>if I was with the Raiders or the Commanders, have

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<v Speaker 13>two years, as opposed to if you're the Bears head coach,

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 13>we have four years.

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<v Speaker 5>Because they're such a young team.

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I would think three years is the window.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>May not be fair, but I think three years is

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<v Speaker 2>a good sample size of getting your players in there.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I would argue that you need probably four years when

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you're going to draft and get your players, turn over

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the roster, get your philosophy in their coaching philosophy. But Bears,

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to me would be interesting. Washington, great fan base. I

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know about the Raiders, and can you ask Tom

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Brady to get involved with the Raiders. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Ian Rappaport about that.