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Speaker 1: That's a Kyle thing. Kyle likes to run the ball

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Speaker 1: That ain't their style. So when you have a number

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Speaker 1: And if IUC is only going to be a seventy

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Speaker 2: This is fantasy. Fucking football.

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Speaker 1: This isn't NFL live with players everywhere just saying can't

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Speaker 1: let him go. That's not the way the world works.

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Speaker 1: Like I do need a shitload of value back and

436
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Speaker 1: that's what complicates all this stuff. And even on the

437
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Speaker 1: other team standpoint, like steel it's easy to say no

438
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Speaker 1: if you're the Steelers obviously for Washington like you're we're out.

439
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: It's easy if you're Cleveland, like, yeah, we'll give you

440
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: a Mari in a fifth. Well, if you're the Niners, like, no,

441
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: we're giving you a younger, ascending player. You're giving upus

442
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: a guy that is a one year rental in the Cleveland.

443
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Speaker 2: Why do they want a budge? Because they need those

444
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Speaker 2: draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And the Pats, I think that comes down to is like, Okay, Brandon,

446
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: you want to go to Pats, we'll get you a

447
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: first class ticket tomorrow. If you want to go, go

448
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: sign the contract. They'll give us back what we want.

449
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, I just I'll just keep up.

450
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: See it the hold in.

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Speaker 1: See you guys in the cafeteria. What times meetings tomorrow

452
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Speaker 1: at eight thirty.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be there at eight fifteen. Get my uh

454
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Speaker 2: my typical omelet that's.

455
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Speaker 1: That's what it feels like, and that's what this situation.

456
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: And listen, the Niners deserve, Like how did it get

457
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Speaker 1: to this point? And I think a big reason because

458
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Speaker 1: I go back, why didn't they trade them? Like if

459
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Speaker 1: they knew that it was going to be complicated because

460
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Speaker 1: the offers weren't there because he's Brandon Ayuk, He's not

461
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Speaker 1: Tyree Killer DeVante Adams. People were lying to give him

462
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Speaker 1: a first round pick after the combine, before free agency,

463
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. They didn't have a first round

464
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Speaker 1: pick on the table around the draft. He can get mad.

465
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: People can argue over the analytics all you want, like

466
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: the market's kind of speaking for itself, and now they're

467
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Speaker 1: hoping maybe a little desperation. Training camp teams feel pressure,

468
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: but like I said, I think this situation is going

469
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: to keep playing it out, which doesn't help the forty

470
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Speaker 1: nine ers, which clearly there feels like they're more involved

471
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Speaker 1: in this. And Trent like, hey, this is one of

472
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Speaker 1: the best players in the league. You probably want to

473
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Speaker 1: get him to the camp. He's thirty five and you

474
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Speaker 1: want him working out. And if you're a Cowboy fan

475
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: right now, you're like, what the hell's going on with

476
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers Eagles, And it's true, and this is.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But all these other teams are involved, and I can't

479
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Speaker 1: imagine they're happy, especially the teams where you're leaking, their

480
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Speaker 1: players might get traded. If I'm the Browns, I'm like,

481
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Speaker 1: come on, guys, don't don't leak.

482
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Speaker 2: We'd trade you with Mauri Cooper. We need this guy.

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Speaker 1: If trade doesn't happen. Well, it was flying around on

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Speaker 1: social media today. I was scrolling Pro Football Talk and

485
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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm gonna read this article.

486
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Speaker 1: It was on ESPN dot com and it was about

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts. And obviously the big story

488
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Speaker 1: of the article was that they had a fractured and

489
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: unhealthy relationship in twenty twenty three, as well as Jalen

490
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Speaker 1: didn't respect him from an x's and o's standpoint, at least,

491
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Speaker 1: that was my biggest takeaway, and I would say the

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Speaker 1: most salacious part of the article by a wide by

493
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Speaker 1: a pretty wide margin, because, let's face it, the most

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Speaker 1: important people once the season starts, the GM doesn't have

495
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: as much control. The owner can't do anything. It's your

496
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Speaker 1: head coach and your quarterback and then falls in line

497
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Speaker 1: to your coordinators, right, and Sirianni's.

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Speaker 2: Lucky to have a job.

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Speaker 1: We all know that. I thought he was going to

500
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Speaker 1: get fired after the season, so did most people, so

501
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: did some people in the Philadelphia Eagles building.

502
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Speaker 2: But he survived.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible. And I've been in these

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Speaker 1: positions where you work for somebody and you don't respect them. Football,

505
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Speaker 1: like a lot of jobs in this country, can be

506
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Speaker 1: pretty aggressive, can be contentious, can be.

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Speaker 2: Uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Like that's part of any high level industry, especially ones

509
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: like this where there's a ton of money on the line.

510
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: People have big egos. People I guess football more than

511
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: most industries, a lot of screaming back and forth. It's

512
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: a violent sport. It's full of aggressive people. So to me,

513
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: people screaming at each other. It's why when Aaron Rodgers

514
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Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson or coaches, screaming means nothing to me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome even the article with some of the Dion Sanders

516
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: stories like, I don't care. This is not your normal

517
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: workplace environment when it comes to interactions between two people,

518
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: whether it be two players, whether it be a coaching player,

519
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: whether it be a coaching coach, I'm pretty numb to

520
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: that means nothing to me. So there have been clips

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Speaker 1: over the years of like Jalen and Sirianni yelling each other.

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00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't care, honestly, that's that's what I expect, same

523
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Speaker 1: with any team. It doesn't do much for me. But

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Speaker 1: when you lose respect for a coach or for any

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Speaker 1: person that's in a superior position to you, whether you're

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Speaker 1: making fifty million dollars like Jalen Hurts, or whether you're

527
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Speaker 1: me and you and you don't respect your boss. You

528
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Speaker 1: don't have to agree with someone above you all the time.

529
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Speaker 1: But when I lose respect, like it's hard for me

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Speaker 1: to listen to anything he says.

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Speaker 2: And I think the.

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Speaker 1: Much of this whole thing was it all revolved around

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Speaker 1: x's and o's. Can you imagine, Like I bet Matt

534
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: Stafford and Sean McVeigh always haven't had the greatest days.

535
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and Kyle Shanahan were at each other's next

536
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: non stop. Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid feel like they have

537
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: the perfect marriage, but I bet there are some tense days.

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Speaker 1: Do you think those quarterbacks?

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Speaker 2: And I just used those as examples.

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Speaker 1: Ever, once questioned those coaches ability to scheme an offense,

541
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Speaker 1: those coaches intellectual capacity for football obviously not. And listen,

542
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: Sirianni is not like those guys. He can't call place.

543
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Speaker 1: We've seen him attempt to and it was a disaster.

544
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Speaker 1: Last season ended, you know, with the basically the building

545
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: on fire, and he hired a new offensive coordinator. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be completely hands off. Even Mike McCarthy, who

547
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Speaker 1: who has much maligned Cowboys coach. Last year of his contract,

548
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: people love and part of it is the brand all

549
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: over him twenty four to seven, three sixty five. Here's

550
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Speaker 1: what you cannot argue about Mike.

551
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: He can call an offense, just did last year.

552
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Speaker 1: They were pretty good, and he did for Green Bay

553
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: many times. I know Mike McCarthy can be an offensive coordinator.

554
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni cannot. And part of this article was about

555
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: like people start freelancing, people start doing their own thing.

556
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Speaker 1: No one was listening to anyone, because listen, there are

557
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Speaker 1: a ton of coaches that are successful in this league

558
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: that don't call plays. John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell.

559
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Speaker 1: But one thing they are great Mike Tomlin is controlling

560
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: the room, keeping the chaos to a minimum, holding a

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Speaker 1: standard driving people. There was a comment in the Hard

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Speaker 1: Nine from Saban, which we'll get into in a minute,

563
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: but Saban basically said people aren't born to be champions,

564
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: whether it be in football, whether it be in life.

565
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: People are born to be average, get by, just survive.

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Speaker 1: If you want them to be great, you have to

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Speaker 1: do it, meaning you have to coach it. So, Sirianni,

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Speaker 1: my question has always been, what does he do? Seriously,

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Speaker 1: he's some great motivator where you wouldn't put him in

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Speaker 1: the hardball Mike Tomlin, Dan Campbell category. He's definitely not

571
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Speaker 1: a scheme guy for an offense one thing. And Jim

572
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is a former quarterback, but really he's like a hybrid.

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Speaker 2: He feels more like a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Same with Dan Campbell former tight end. But if you

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Speaker 1: just saw him, he'd be like, oh yeah, I bet

576
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Speaker 1: he played d tackle back in his prime. John Harbaugh

577
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin are defensive guys. But how often do

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Speaker 1: offensive head coaches are not super dialed in on.

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Speaker 2: The scheme historically? Think about historically.

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Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, like all the best offensive coaches,

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Speaker 1: even if they take a year off or whatever, can

582
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: always call the offense. Even this year. Brian da Ball

583
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Speaker 1: is like, I'm taking it back. I'm calling the offense.

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Speaker 1: Why He's done it countless times in his past college

585
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Speaker 1: ampro If my offensive head coach isn't some elite leader,

586
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Speaker 1: which let's face it, he's not, can't dominate when it

587
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: comes to schematics, we got problems. So and I'm not

588
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Speaker 1: acting like Jalen's perfect. Takes two to tango. They probably

589
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: are both responsible.

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Speaker 2: That's the way any situation usually goes.

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Speaker 1: But how do you blame him? Like Jalen's had a

592
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Speaker 1: front row seat of elite schematics at Alabama were the

593
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Speaker 1: best of the best. We're coaching him on the offensive

594
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Speaker 1: side of the ball, and he knew his head coach,

595
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: while a defensive is arguably one of the greatest defensive

596
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: schematic guys in the history of the sport, especially when

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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: it comes to the secondary in Nick Saban and then

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00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: he played for a year and a half with Shane

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00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Steiken calling the offensive plays, so he knows what an

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Speaker 1: elite play caller looks like. I just think this thing

601
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: now I'm still high on the Eagles because I think

602
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent. But one thing they

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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: hit on in this article, because everyone's in good spirit

604
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Speaker 1: right now, clearly the roster is really good. What happens

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Speaker 1: when they hit adversity, and it's the one thing that

606
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: gives me pause that will they turn on this guy?

607
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: I think most guys on the team like Nix around

608
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: it clearly personally. But like when you're in the trenches

609
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Speaker 1: and you're in the fire and you've lost a couple

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Speaker 1: of games, what could he bring to the table besides

611
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Speaker 1: some rudy Rudiger speech beside some crazy analogy in front

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Speaker 1: of the team on a Wednesday, I'm talking about a

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Speaker 1: game plan to give you an advantage. That's what the

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00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: great coaches on Sundays do. Urban Meyer in college was

615
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: an incredible recruiter and a great motivator, But then he

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Speaker 1: came to Sunday and none of that shit really mattered

617
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: because Monday through Saturday is a chess game against your opponent.

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Speaker 1: It's a thinking man's sport. Of course, you have to

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00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: push guys and make sure you're practicing hard, but you

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00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: win and lose on Sunday by play calls offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's such a fascinating sport. It's

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Speaker 1: why even beside the head coach, we talk about the

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Speaker 1: coordinators non stop. God, that was a dumb blitz. Why

624
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Speaker 1: can't they cover this guy?

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00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: God?

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Speaker 1: Why are they running the ball so much? Cause you know,

627
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Speaker 1: I talked to someone the other day. In baseball, we

628
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: argue so much, actually, Adam the producer of this podcast,

629
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Speaker 1: that you know, everyone's so critical always of baseball managers

630
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I can't believe Aaron Boone or Dave

631
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Roberts pulled that guy from the game.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

633
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: It's not his choice. It's being run by the front office.

634
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Yet no one in football when the Niners grew up,

635
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: or the Chiefs screw up, or the Broncos screw up

636
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: on offense, ever go like got the GM You know

637
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: for a fact who called that play and whether it

638
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: worked or whether it didn't, and whether that led to

639
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a winner, whether that led to a loss. It's a

640
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: huge part of this podcast. Once the game start, we

641
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: talk a lot about individual play calls. Individual play calls obviously,

642
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: how a team starts, how ready they are for a game,

643
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: and then like most games in the NFL, they're relatively close,

644
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: and a play here or a play there are the

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00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: difference in the game, and Sirianni has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with that. Jalen Hurts think about this, Like Tom Brady

647
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: is a good example. Him and Bill buttedheads for a

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00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: long time, but one thing that was never argued. He

649
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Speaker 1: never lost respect for him when it came to x's

650
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: and o's. That's insane. I mean, that's crazy. It'd be

651
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: like working for you know, Warren Buffin and like he

652
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: does something to piss you off, Like yeah, just I

653
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: question his ability in the market. That's literally the job

654
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: of a coach. That's why it always drives me nuts

655
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: when a head coach gets hired from a coordinator position

656
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: and then they no longer do that. Robert Salah is

657
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: a great example. He was literally hired because of how

658
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: good the defense was in San Francisco. Then he gets

659
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: the Jets, He's like, I'm just gonna be a CEO. Like,

660
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: we didn't hire you to be a CEO. I want

661
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: you to run the defense and do that.

662
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: You're the head coach.

663
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: But the reason you're a head coach is because you

664
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: have an expertise doing one individual thing and then they

665
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: stop doing it.

666
00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

667
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: I just articles like this don't necessarily make me nervous

668
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: because I'm not picking the Eagles to win the Super Bowl,

669
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: and last year was a joke with their coaching staff

670
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: and they still won eleven games. Now, obviously they started well,

671
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: but I still believe they're gonna be good. But this

672
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: is something that doesn't just go away usually when you

673
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: I've been in position now, I'm never had a guy

674
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: of Nick Sirianni's like fame that I lost respect for.

675
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: But when you lose respect for someone above you, you

676
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: usually don't gain it back. You usually don't gain it

677
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: back because deep down you know he just doesn't know.

678
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: This guy's not good enough. This guy can't help me.

679
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Why because there's a part of you that thinks he's clueless.

680
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: Think about that. That's usually what it is, at least

681
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: in my experience. Jalen Hurts. One part of this article,

682
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: which I actually thought was kind of cool, is he

683
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: called Wink Martindale after the season, before the Tampa Bay

684
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: playoff game and ask them for advice, Essentially like, what

685
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: do you see when you coach against me? Obviously, Wink

686
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: for two years was the Giants defensive coordinator and they

687
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: played him in a playoff game, so he had game

688
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: plan for him countless times and winks it. In my

689
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: forty years of coaching, I've never had a player reach out. Well,

690
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to reach out if you could lean

691
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: on your head coach, Rock Purty, Patrick Mahomes, all these

692
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: all these got Matt Stafford wouldn't have to reach out.

693
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: They would just reach out to their boss, to the

694
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: guy that they lean on, what do we need to

695
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: do and they would have the answers. That's literally their job.

696
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it was wrong for Jalen to do.

697
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: I think that's gives a lot of insight into him

698
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: as a guy, as a person driven to be the

699
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: best he can. I also think it gives a lot

700
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: of insight is he doesn't think anyone in the building

701
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: has the answers for him to help him ount, which

702
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: is pretty scary. And this is a very slippery slope

703
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: this year. Like I said, I thought he was fired

704
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I thought Bill Belichick

705
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: was going to be their head coach and that is

706
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: definitely still on the table this year and making the

707
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: playoffs will not be good enough if they're one and

708
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: done in the playoffs. And the same questions kind of

709
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: come back, what is Sirianni doing? I don't see, because

710
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the point, like is Jeffrey Learry

711
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: going to give him an extension? And here's the other

712
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: problem for Sirianni. Now it's pretty well established if Kellen

713
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Moore has success and their offense is awesome again like

714
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: it was under Shane Steiken. Because let's face it, if

715
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: they had to redo, which would have been crazy at

716
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: the time, but if they had to redo today, they

717
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: would do it. They would have fired Nick Sirianni for

718
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken. Obviously that would have been unprecedented. It's they

719
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: weren't in a position to do that. But after a

720
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: year looking back, what the right move would have been,

721
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: And if Kellen more succeeds this year, it's him succeeding.

722
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Sirianni has nothing to do with it. It's not like

723
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: he's picking the players. We know how he is the

724
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: grand poo ball when it comes to personnel. So you

725
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: just go, we just paying this guy seven eight million

726
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: dollars to be the head coach on our website. So

727
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: the Eagles are a team that everyone's gonna be watching.

728
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: If you watched Hard Knocks, you saw Nick Saban talk

729
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: about hype and expectations from the outside and how that

730
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter internally when you're trying to develop a quarterback,

731
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: and he discussed why so many quarterbacks fail because of

732
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: their expectations. I'm gonna disagree. I think a lot of

733
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks fail because they're not good enough. This pro football

734
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: it is really, really difficult. They go to bad teams,

735
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: they get bad coordinators, they get bad talent. Like any

736
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: young person, you lose any confidence you have, you can

737
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: get destroyed. And you know the way in the spe

738
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: in which the NFL works, you don't have time. There

739
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: are small examples of guys that just didn't care, you know.

740
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell's probably the best example of all time of

741
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: a guy who literally did not give a shit. But

742
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: I think most guys, at least over the last decade

743
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: plus tried put in good effort and they simply were

744
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: not good enough. Like this is the best of the best,

745
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: this is the one percent of the one percent. It

746
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: is difficult to play in the NFL. I say it

747
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: all the time. I am much more comfortable being critical

748
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: of coaches because I think it is much easier to

749
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: become a coach in the NFL than it is to

750
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: become a player. And listen, guys fumble, Guys make a

751
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: bad pass, Guys misatackle. Football is hard now when you

752
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: consistently make mistakes, I'd argue it's on the coach pull

753
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: them out of the game. But the hype machine, Listen,

754
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that much if you're a GM or

755
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: you're a coach, or you're a player. You ultimately have

756
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: to produce and that's all that matters. But us on

757
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: the outside us to talk about football fans kind of

758
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: like it. It kind of makes this whole thing fun.

759
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: I was just watching the Team USA game. Part of

760
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: what made that game so riveting, it was fantastic was

761
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: because the hype around the team right and there was

762
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: substance behind it. We have some of the greatest players

763
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: in the history of the game on it, and it's

764
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: like they're gonna lose to Joker and a bunch of

765
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: other guys that none of us could point out of

766
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: a lineup. It was incredible television and the cool part,

767
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: and this is why I always defend the draft. The

768
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: draft is part of the business model of the NFL.

769
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: That moment, the hype train of the players coming in,

770
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the excitement that it gives fans of hope that they

771
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: can turn things around. That's real, and that plays a

772
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: part into the revenue stream that ultimately the players essentially

773
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: get a fifty to fifty split of So I've always

774
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: defended like the excitement around draft time. It's why whenever

775
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: a player is drafted, especially in the first round, you

776
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: will never not see an ecstatic draft room. Even though

777
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: we know, you know, on average, sixteen of the thirty

778
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: two guys will not get second contracts with the team,

779
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: let alone becomes star players. Even the guys that get

780
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: second contracts, that doesn't mean you become JJ Watt right

781
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: or Patrick Mahomes. That just means you're a really good player. Right,

782
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you make a Pro Bowl or two. But when

783
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I draft a guy in the top ten, the top five,

784
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: my expectations are for you to become a star from

785
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: the team, from the owner, from the fans, from us

786
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: talking about it. That's the way this whole thing works.

787
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: And there is an incredible amount of hype around Caleb

788
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Williams part of that started years ago when he kicks

789
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler to the curb, who's about to be Derek

790
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: Carr's backup quarterback in New Orleans. Turned out like, actually,

791
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: he's not terrible, pretty good player than what he did

792
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: at USC two years winning the Heisman Trophy and obviously

793
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: his physical gifts. But I do think the hype around

794
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, I wouldn't put it on Caleb's level, but

795
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: it's pretty high and a lot like Caleb Williams, he

796
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: is entrusted with saving a franchise, saving a franchise. Now,

797
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: the Bears over the last twenty years have had good teams.

798
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean some of those Brian Urlacker teams.

799
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: Help.

800
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: They went to a Super Bowl, right and they had

801
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: countless guys who were the best in the league and

802
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: their defense was awesome. Then they went to an NFC

803
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: Championship game the year Jay Cutler got hurt and Aaron

804
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: Rodgers ended up winning the Super Bowl. And then what

805
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: six seven years ago, Matt Naggie's first year with Vic

806
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: Fangio the Doink Game. They were hosting a playoff game.

807
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: So they have had more success than the Washington franchise,

808
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: but part of like you could argue it's harder to

809
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: save the Washington franchise than it is the Bears franchise.

810
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 1: Now they have not had a quarterback in Chicago really ever,

811
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: and and there's a new owner in Washington, so you

812
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: don't have the stink of Daniel Snyder. But still there

813
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a ton of pressure. I worked

814
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: for the Eagles when RG III was drafted, it was

815
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: like he was the savior. Now he answered the bell

816
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: immediately and then clearly messed up his knee and was

817
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: never the same. But coaches, GMS, scouts, they're gonna have

818
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: a lot of opinions over the next month. Who's playing well,

819
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: who's not playing well, who's good, who's not good. That's

820
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: part of August. But when opposing players who are really

821
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: good come out and make bold statements like it makes

822
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: you go could this be real? And sas Gardner they

823
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: just practiced for a couple of days said that he

824
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: went up to Jaden Daniels. This is what he told

825
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: the reporters and told him you were gonna be really good.

826
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: And I don't think you do that randomly just to

827
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: be nice to a guy you're playing dB against him.

828
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: In all these drills, You're like, God, this guy's pretty sweet.

829
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, ze zach Ertz said, stop saying he's

830
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: going to be good.

831
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: He's good now.

832
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: And I was just reading a bunch of quotes from

833
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury how he's just blown away by the way

834
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: this guy's work, like his work ethic, how focused he is,

835
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: and his study habits. Because a lot of guys, I

836
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: think can't handle the mental aspect of being a quarterback.

837
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: It's really hard transitioning from college where you can get

838
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: by with talent to the NFL, where you obviously have

839
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: to have the talent, but you also have to have

840
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: this insane amount of mental focus slash mental toughness because

841
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have rough days. It's a much longer season,

842
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: obviously from a football standpoint. They're throwing so much shit

843
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: at you. It can be very, very overwhelming. But like,

844
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: the hype on this guy so far has been pretty strong,

845
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated. And now it all falls on the

846
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: head coach and the GM. Can they coach well enough

847
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: over the next several years and put enough players around

848
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: this guy to give.

849
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: Him a shot.

850
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: And I'm excited to watch, like it makes it fun.

851
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: And from talking to all my buddies when I went

852
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: to the combine, like they thought he was incredible this season.

853
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Throws is a great deep ball. His arm strength has

854
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: gotten way better over the years. His decision making standing

855
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: in the pocket is way better. Obviously, he's a great

856
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: athlete moving around. The one knock on him And we

857
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: talked about it on the Fantasy podcast, like, this is

858
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: what Caleb brings the table.

859
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: He is just thick.

860
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: We've said it forever about Kyler running quarterback. While he's short,

861
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: he has built like a little tank. And Jaden is

862
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: really thin. And I remember when he got the Heisman

863
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: and he's there standing with the other guys. You're like, God,

864
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: this guy is really really skinny. Which there's nothing wrong

865
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: with being a young guy and being skinny at any position.

866
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens. It takes a little time to put

867
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: on weight. But if you are gonna be a runner,

868
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: you have.

869
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: To avoid the hits.

870
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Cause even in twenty twenty four where everyone's like, oh,

871
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: they're just a bunch of you know, this league is

872
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: so soft. Well, yeah, relative to the seventies, eighties, and nineties,

873
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: it is a different sport. It doesn't mean you won't

874
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: get hit, and get hit really hard when you're running

875
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: around will linebackers aren't as big as they once were, Right,

876
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: you don't have a many two hundred and sixty pound

877
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: middle linebackers plugging the hole against Lorenzo O'Neil.

878
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: In the ISO block.

879
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: That's not how the game is, I would say, consistently

880
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: played now. But you get two hundred and forty pound

881
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: guys or two hundred and thirty five pound guys that

882
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: can run four four.

883
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Four or five forties.

884
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: And if you're running four four, even if you weigh

885
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five pounds. I've never been hit

886
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but I can't imagine that feels good.

887
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: And once you cross that line of scrimmage and you're

888
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: not gonna slide, you're gonna die forward, you were gonna

889
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: get molly wopped. So that's something. And I've always believed

890
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: you either have this kind of innate feel as a

891
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: runner that you can avoid hits, and that goes for

892
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: running backs too. I always thought Frank Gore was definitely

893
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: not the fastest running back we've seen the last twenty years. Remember,

894
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: he had like eight knee surgeries before he even came out.

895
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: But he had this incredible knack from not taking big hits,

896
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big reason why he played

897
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: such a long time. And we've seen quarterbacks Michael Vick's

898
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: a good example that just wasn't that good at that.

899
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: He didn't know how to slide, he didn't have a

900
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: great feel for contact. He was such a tough guy,

901
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't afraid of it, but you were gonna lose

902
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: those battles. So clearly, this guy from a throwing perspective,

903
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: took a gigantic leap I mean a gigantic leap last year.

904
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be about staying healthy and the team

905
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: building it around him, because, let's face it, I was

906
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: thinking about this today. I was I go back and forth.

907
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna probably pick him to finish last

908
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: in the division if he is good, Like if he

909
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: has a really good rookie year, their quarterback position is

910
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: much better off than the Giants their quarterback position depending

911
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: on how this Dack situation goes, like, I'd still be shocked.

912
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: But as long as he doesn't have a contract and

913
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: they can't franchise him, who knows If he's on the

914
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: team next year. Now you could argue if they are

915
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: offering anywhere near what he would get in the open market,

916
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: it pays to be the Dallas Cowboys quarterback literally and

917
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: figuratively off the field. But if he were to leave

918
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Washington, if he just shows signs,

919
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: they're like, God, they got a real chance. Because listen,

920
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: all this what Saban is right about. We're not playing

921
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: any games, even the preseason. That doesn't count. You are

922
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: judged on the seventeen regular season games and how you

923
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: improve over that period of time. But in theory, this

924
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: team should be a lot better off next year in

925
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: two years, and if you do it right, and this

926
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: guy answers the bell, that's why Caleb gets this incredible situation.

927
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: He goes to the Chicago.

928
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: Bears, who were not drafting one. They just fleece the Panthers.

929
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: They already had a sweet wide receiver, they had their

930
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: own pick, so they draft another guy and then they

931
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: trade for Keenan Allen. So he goes to his place

932
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: with three sweet wide receivers. They signer running back. They

933
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: already have a solid defense, Like it's one of the

934
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: better landing spots for a number one quarterback in the

935
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: history of the league, you never go usually go to

936
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: the commanders. A team that had cut guys, trade guys

937
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: last year, kind of starting over is going to depend

938
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: on a lot of young guys and just kind of

939
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: be a work in progress. That's fine, That's.

940
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: Usually how it goes.

941
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: And if you do a good enough job as the

942
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: front office and the head coach, like you can be

943
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: in great position. And there was a lot of talk

944
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: before the draft, you know about and even I kind

945
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: of threw it out there because I'm a big swing guy,

946
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: like what if Drake may hits?

947
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Could he be like Josh Allen?

948
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: Could he be like Justin Herbert? Well, everyone that I

949
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: knew in the league that has scouted both of them

950
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: were like, this guy's just better, and there's just no

951
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: way you take that risk when this guy this guy

952
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: has a high ceiling too, and when you watch him

953
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: in the SEC, he's a baller. So I'm fascinated to

954
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: watch this guy. I get excited when I see these

955
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: quotes because I know the way coaches.

956
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: And GMS talk with reporters.

957
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: One, they're going to be really positive during this period

958
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: of time, But when other players start saying that, like,

959
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: zach Ertz won a Super Bowl, zach Ertz played with

960
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzho at one point in time, looked like he

961
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: was gonna be the MVP.

962
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: Zach Ertz played with Kyler Murray.

963
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, Sas Gardner plays elite quarterbacks basically every week

964
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: or every other week, like he kind of knows what

965
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: it looks like.

966
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: So I put value in that.

967
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: The volume