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Speaker 1: In this episode of news World, the concept of evil

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Speaker 1: is universal, ancient, and ever present. In his new book,

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Speaker 1: Confronting Evil, Bill O'Reilly recounts the deeds of the worst

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Speaker 1: people in history Genghis Khan, the Roman emperor, Caliguila, Henry

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Speaker 1: the Eighth, the Collective Evil, the nineteenth century slave traders,

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Speaker 1: and the twentieth century robber barons, Stalin Hitler, Mao, the

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Speaker 1: Ayatollahmani Putin, the Mexican drug cartels. Collectively, these warlords, tyrants, businessmen,

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Speaker 1: and criminals are directly responsible for the death and misery

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Speaker 1: of hundreds of millions of people. Confronting Evil became an

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Speaker 1: instant number one New York Times bestseller. I'm really pleased

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Speaker 1: to welcome my guests, my good friend, my colleague over

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Speaker 1: the years, Bill O'Reilly. He is a trailblazing TV journalist

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Speaker 1: who has experienced on precedent his success on cable news

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Speaker 1: and in writing twenty national number one best selling nonfiction books.

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Speaker 1: There are more than eighteen million books in the Killing

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Speaker 1: series in print. Bill, welcome and thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: me again on news World.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, mister speaker. You're looking good. I'm glad everything's

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Speaker 2: going well, for you.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you twenty New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 1: I've written a lot in my lifetime, but I have

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Speaker 1: nothing like the number of books in print. You do.

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Speaker 1: With that kind of record, you can write anything you

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Speaker 1: want to. What made you want to tackle evil as

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Speaker 1: your subject this time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I came off Confronting Presidents. We switched from the

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Speaker 2: Killing series to Confronting and that was the first big

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Speaker 2: book and it was a very big success. Presidents and

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Speaker 2: these books take a year to research and write. So

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Speaker 2: this time last year, I was searching around for a

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Speaker 2: subject and I noticed that in the United States and

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Speaker 2: all over the world, but particularly in our country, there

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Speaker 2: was a rise in evil day to day. You could

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Speaker 2: see it in the criminal justice system. You could see

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Speaker 2: it the way people behave on the internet, even in

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Speaker 2: the courts. Civility is gone, plagiarism is crazy, people lie

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Speaker 2: all the time. And I said, you know, we're looking

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Speaker 2: away from this as a collective people, the American public

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Speaker 2: is looking away. So let me write a book that's

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Speaker 2: going to shock everybody into how much evil there has

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Speaker 2: been and there is. That's why I put putin in

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Speaker 2: the iatola on a cover, and maybe that will mobilize

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Speaker 2: the good people to reassess how they deal with evil.

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Speaker 2: So that was a goal, and then we carried it

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Speaker 2: out and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Speaker 1: Well, you chose fifteen of the worst figures in history.

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Speaker 1: How did you narrow the group down?

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Speaker 2: Every one of them relates to our lives today. That's

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Speaker 2: how I narrowed it down. So you say, well, why

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Speaker 2: is it Saddam Mussan in there? Because he was localized.

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Speaker 2: His evil was localized. Which Saddam Mussane did doesn't influence

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Speaker 2: us today. Paul Pott Cambodia slaughtered his own people, but

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Speaker 2: it stayed within the borders of that country. These miscreants,

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Speaker 2: every one of them from Caligia on, influence the world

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Speaker 2: today negatively, and that's the binding thread on them all.

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Speaker 1: One of the topics which is the current present example

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Speaker 1: of evil is the Mexican drug cartels. And you write, quote,

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Speaker 1: the suffering perpetuated by the Mexican drug gangs is uncalculable,

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Speaker 1: the evil on debated. It is doubtful this wicket industry

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Speaker 1: will ever be fully eradicated. What do you think we

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Speaker 1: should be doing to minimize the pain that they inflict

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Speaker 1: on the American people.

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Speaker 2: During Donald Trump's first term. I had dinner with him

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Speaker 2: on No I'm name dropping here, but it's important to

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Speaker 2: answer your question accurately. I had dinner with him in

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Speaker 2: is about twenty eighteen, I would say. I said to him,

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Speaker 2: you know this fentanyl Mexico corruption on the cartels. People

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Speaker 2: everybody I know has been affected by it. They've either

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Speaker 2: lost family members or friends where their neighborhoods have deteriorated,

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Speaker 2: drug addict. This is big. I said. The only way

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Speaker 2: that you can defeat that is to declare these cartels

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Speaker 2: terror groups, just as you did with ISIS and al Qaida,

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Speaker 2: going to cause World War three. Exactly what you did

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Speaker 2: to ISIS. Obama and Trump really did a methodical job

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Speaker 2: in dismantling ISIS. I wrote about that in killing the Killers,

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Speaker 2: I said, you got to bring the same kind of

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Speaker 2: And that's the only way to defeat these people. You

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Speaker 1: So when you say, for example, the three boats off

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Speaker 1: Venezuela get wiped out, that fits how you would approach

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Speaker 1: this whole thing. You have to literally take them apart.

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Speaker 2: That's right. And Venezuela is now in narco state, just

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Speaker 2: like Panama was when you were a congressman, and Bush

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Speaker 2: the Elder went in and kidnapped the president Doriega and

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Speaker 2: was a narco state. That's what Venezuela is now. Now

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Speaker 2: Mexico is a little bit different. Zio cannot control the cartels.

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Speaker 2: The president Scheinbaum is afraid of them, physically afraid. Obrador

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Speaker 2: can't count on Mexico to do much. So we have

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Speaker 2: to do it. But Venezuela is Trump's main target now

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Speaker 2: because he wants to get Maduro out of there. And Maduro,

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Speaker 2: according to all of our investigative agencies, is making millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars being paid off by the cocaine traffickers in

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Speaker 2: You might even see military action by the US on

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Speaker 1: You describe Putin as an unstable individual who obviously does

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Speaker 1: not value human life at all. How do you explain

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Speaker 1: It's almost like he is rejecting the reality of the

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Speaker 1: United States and the Europeans steadily building more momentum to

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Speaker 1: that has no future.

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Speaker 2: He's a psychopath. On nine to eleven, you may have

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Speaker 2: noticed this. I was invited to Yankee Stadium by President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Now he doesn't invite me to have a couple of

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Speaker 2: wanted to talk about a couple of things. I didn't

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Speaker 2: you have to go. So I went and we talked

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Speaker 2: about Putin. I handed him confronting evil. I said, look,

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy, mister President, But you got to

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Speaker 2: read this chapter on Putin because he's not the same

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Speaker 2: guy that you were dealing with the first time around.

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Speaker 2: Because that always happens when you embrace evil, mister speaker,

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Speaker 2: when that is your primary goal in life to hurt

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Speaker 2: other people, you get worse. There is no rehab for evil.

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Speaker 2: Every one of these tyrants I write about deteriorated and

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Speaker 2: got worse and worse and worse. That is happened to Putin.

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Speaker 2: So he's not the same guy. And that's a mistake

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Speaker 2: the first time around. It's a different Putin and now

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Speaker 2: there's a self destructive straight to him. Now. I think

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Speaker 2: he can be contained if the Chinese cooperate, and that's

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Speaker 2: a big if. But this guy is hell bent on

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Speaker 2: killing people. He's targeting hospitals and schools and little villages

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Speaker 2: campaign and that's what he's doing. And a world needs

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Speaker 2: to really assess Putin the way he is. Stop with

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Speaker 2: the bs. This is a dangerous, dangerous individual because he

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Speaker 2: has nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if he, in fact did feel like

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Speaker 1: they were losing, that he would use tactical nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's capable of it, and he's built the doc

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Speaker 2: fallout in Russia. He's got two big submarines that park

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Speaker 2: an amazing compound, and you don't do something like that

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Speaker 2: by accident. Now, I'm not going to say that he

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Speaker 2: But he's capable of it.

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Speaker 1: I think he explains part of why Trump has been

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Speaker 2: That's right. The key to this is China, and I

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Speaker 2: was invited by the Beijing government in May to go

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Speaker 2: reason they invited me was YouTube. They watched me every

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Speaker 2: the O'Reilly Enterprises. We have an independent news agency based

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Speaker 2: I got the invitation through Harvard because China does a

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Speaker 2: amazing experience. Part of what I suggested, you don't tell

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Speaker 2: the communist government anything, you're polite and respectful, was that

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Speaker 2: they should get out of the Putin business because this

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Speaker 2: is not a long term positive for China. They listen

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Speaker 2: very intently to that, and if Donald Trump can convince

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Speaker 1: That would be a huge change in the whole balance

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Speaker 2: In the world, no doubt about it. And to watch

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Speaker 2: an amazing occurrence. In fact, Malzetungu was the worst mass

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Speaker 2: have that, of course, in confronting evil. And what he

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Speaker 2: reorganize this crazy communist society the way he wanted it.

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Speaker 2: But you go to China, Now this Mao's picture all

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Speaker 2: of his fellow citizens and have his picture everywhere. That's

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Speaker 2: the taken place in China. We need to understand who

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Speaker 2: our adversaries are, what their mindset is. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think China is self destructive. I think that they would

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Speaker 2: like to prosper on their own terms. But I think

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Speaker 1: I just have to ask you about Gengis Khan in

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Speaker 1: your judging, Why is he evil?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, Jengas Khan was way ahead of his time

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Speaker 2: as far as being a tyrant. He took that to

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Speaker 2: the level that it had never been even thought about.

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Speaker 2: His empire extended from the Pacific Ocean of China, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all the way to Hungary. You look at a map

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Speaker 2: and a Mongol horsemen just devastated everybody because they were

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Speaker 2: were kill everybody. You don't need to take any prisoners,

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Speaker 2: We don't want to feed him anyway. Just going to

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Speaker 2: behead everybody, put the head on sticks, and everybody else surrender,

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Speaker 2: And that's pretty much what happened. So this guy was

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Speaker 2: Djengis Khan. And one of the things that I did

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Look, I'm confident that Confronting Evil is not

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