1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Michael Arry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: I was waiting with an awesome intro by our creative 4 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: director Jim Mudd, and I rose, I don't have one today, 5 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: and I'm feeling a little cheated. There's so much good 6 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: audio these days. No, we shouldn't go home. We should 7 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: we should be grateful that every other day, that every 8 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: other day. You know, I have so many things I 9 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: want to get to and I'm going to power through 10 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: them without much intro in between, because I find all 11 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: these things that I want to share with you. There 12 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: are days that I just want to talk and there 13 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: are things I just want to share with you, and 14 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to this. This is six 15 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: poh two Roman. This is the head of the post Office, 16 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Lewis de Joy, and he's talking to rand Paul Ran 17 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Paul's hammering him and he's talking about the US Postal 18 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Service and he tells that the US Postal Service has 19 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: seen an eighty percent decrease in the volume of mail, 20 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: so they're less busy than ever. So what would most 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: what would a private company have to do at that point? 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: At the layoff workers, right, they've seen an eighty percent 23 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: decrease in the volume of mail, but they added one 24 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety thousand employees. 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Only in the government would this ever happen. 26 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Mentioned in your testimony that the post Office is different 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: than other areas of GOT that has to operate like 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: a private business. You also mentioned that about eighty percent 29 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: of the volume of first class mail has gone down 30 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: over time. Can you think of a private business where 31 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: eighty percent of what they're you know, doing to make 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: money is going down in volume that would actually increase 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: their employees. 34 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so some of that you keep asking, I mean, 35 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: I didn't make the laws that follow up that organized 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: the United States Postal Service. Okay, I came in, as 37 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: I said, to the condition that we had, and I'm 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: trying to fix it. 39 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Now. 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,279 Speaker 4: You exaggerate the hiring aspects. 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: I know of no one in private practice or investors 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: who you know, give advice to a corporate board who 43 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: would say, you have a declining business model, We're going 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: to increase the numbers. 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: But then when you have a choice. 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: Of hiring contractors that won't be paid the same wages 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: or pension benefits or healthcare benefits that you pay your 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: employe that you're up one hundred and ninety thousand, you've 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: insourced one hundred and ninety thousand jobs, and it's just 50 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: sort of inexplicable. The whole point that of the reform, 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: of shifting the costs, it's not really reform. 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: It's a shell game. We just took a bunch of things. 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: That are still costs on your books, and we put 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: them on somebody else's books somewhere else in government. 55 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: It's still a massive cluster in. 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: A way that the debt problem is just shifted over 57 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: to another account. But in doing that, the main thing 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: you were trying to get away from was healthcare costs 59 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: and pension right, And so if you compare a contractor 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: or a contracted employee to a government employee and insourced employee, 61 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: and you compare the health costs and the pension costs, 62 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: they're dramatically higher for insource. So by increasing your number 63 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: of people who work for the government as opposed to contractors, 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: you're compounding the same problem you were here with us 65 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: three years ago saying we can't handle all these other 66 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: we need to shift. 67 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Them somewhere else. And so the reform package did that. 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: But in contrast, then you can continue to hire more 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: people instead of saying, we have all these extra costs 70 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: associated with government labor, why don't we hire labor outside 71 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: of the government and use contractors in isolation. 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: On one element, I mean, this is the problem. 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: Private companies and taxpayers are paying all this money into 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: the government. It's more every year, and the government is 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: just spending whatever they. 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Want and it doesn't matter that none of it. 77 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: They don't perform, they don't accomplish anything, they don't succeed. 78 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: Nobody gets fired. 79 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: That's why they're all up in arms over getting fired, 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: because the concept of a government employee being fired is 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: horrifying to these people because then they would have to 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Then they would have to they would have to actually 83 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: provide results, and that that. 84 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: They will not do. That they can't do. They cannot 85 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: do it. 86 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Here is five sixteen Stephen Miller, White House Deputy Chief 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: of Staff on Fox News talking about foreign fraud rings 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: using fake Social Security numbers to steal billions of dollars 89 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: of your money that you work so hard to pay in. 90 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: And then we know that Social Security is going bankrupt. Well, 91 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: of course it is because it's being defrauded by foreign 92 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: fraud rings. 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: What are the plans to do so if those records 94 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: are obtained. 95 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 6: Well, as we know, there's a massive amount of fraud 96 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 6: in this country. You have, for example, foreign fraud rings. 97 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 6: These are foreign nationals who come into the United States. 98 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 6: They use fake social Security numbers, they use fake identities 99 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 6: to steal billions in taxpayer benefits. There's no way to 100 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 6: know until DOGE gains full access exactly how much money 101 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 6: we're talking about, But over a ten year in old 102 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 6: budget window, you could be talking about saving over a 103 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 6: trillion dollars by clamping down on massive fraud in our 104 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: tax and entitlement systems, included again those carried out by 105 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 6: organized fraud and theft rings. A very important point in 106 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: all this is to understand that DOGE are subordinate staffers 107 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 6: other federal government, their political appointees, just like me, just 108 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 6: like everyone else in the White House that serve an 109 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 6: answer to the president. So we're not talking about an 110 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: outside private entity. We're talking about the existing federal staff 111 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 6: of the federal government performing their statutory and constitutional duty. 112 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: And that's the whole point, isn't it. You don't run 113 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: your business this way, you don't run your household this way. 114 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: You know, the left is very upset that the price 115 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: of eggs became a metaphor for what was wrong in 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: this country because finally, stay at home moms. They always 117 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: talk in terms that they try to exclude stay at 118 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: home moms, y'all are dumb. 119 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Y'all, just stay in the house. 120 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, you don't need to be bothering the schools 121 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: where the experts are teaching your children, or in doctor 122 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: any of your children. You don't need to bother with 123 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: politics because you're not smart, You're just breeders. Well, what 124 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: happened with the inflation issue was stay at home mom said, 125 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: you know what, You're not gonna call me dumb anymore 126 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: because I'm the CEO. 127 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Of this household. 128 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: My husband's off at work, and I got to make 129 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: this budget work for these kids. And when they got 130 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: the zoom into the schools, when they sent the kids home, 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: that was when the parents, the moms, all of a 132 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: sudden saw what was being taught in the schools. Mommies 133 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: have taken over American politics. And I'm here to tell 134 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: you this is a good thing, because guess what, mommies 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 2: are smart. They're the ones that keep the family unit going. 136 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: These these especially white liberals. These white liberals are dysfunctional. 137 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: They can't have a relationship with a man. They can't. 138 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: It's all these white liberal women who are so dysfunctional. 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: They're hated at their work, They're angry at the world. 140 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be making decisions for anybody. 141 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 7: Captain something wong, well, something must be right. 142 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Michael Berry. 143 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: I could literally do an entire show on Lee'z Elden 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: at the EPA and Hulsy Gabbard at d and I. 145 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Although most of what she's going to do you'll never know. 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: You won't see it all because it's behind the scenes. 147 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Pete hegseeth. A lot of what he's going to do 148 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: you're not going to see out front. Although he's very good, 149 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he's former Fox personality. He's good at telling 150 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: a story using the media that don't want to be 151 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: friendly to him. He's very good at doing that sort 152 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: of thing. But I could there's there's so many people 153 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: working in concert on this team of rivals to use 154 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: the Lincoln or use a Doris Kurns Goodwin term about 155 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: the book that the books she wrote about Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln, 156 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: the the rival candidates for the presidency he brought into 157 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: his cabinet, and we hadn't seen anything like that before. 158 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: We had folks that rather. 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: Than say I'll bring in my own team and whoever 160 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: you know did not quite make it to be president, 161 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: you'll never be seen again. He said, no, no, no, come 162 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: in and help me fix the country. It's a pretty 163 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: interesting approach when when you when you think about it, well, 164 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: there are some things that I've been wanting to cover 165 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: that that are just piling up on my desk, and 166 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm just, for no good reason going to go one 167 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: by one. And first one is where is that? Oh, 168 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't think we got a chance to get to this. 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: Last week it was Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, 170 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: who announced that she was going to investigate This is 171 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: on Fox eleven at a loss. She's going to investigate 172 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: why she was allowed to leave the country and go 173 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: down to Ghana before the forest fires. 174 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Now, folks, I got to. 175 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: Tell you this is as good as Carl Douglas and 176 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: and and uh and and Johnny Cochrane saying, oh, you've 177 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: got a bloody glove right next to the Cole's body, 178 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: and there's a bloody glove behind OJ's house. You've got 179 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: a limo driver who saw him go behind there. You've 180 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: got Kato Kalin, his own his own friend, who's who's 181 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: out back of his house, who heard a slamming against 182 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: the door when he jumped over the fence. You've got 183 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: you got blood on him, You've got Goldman's blood on him, 184 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: You've got Nicole's blood on him and all over his vehicle. 185 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, we can't really argue that, now, can we. 186 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: It's arguably the most evidence ever found in a case 187 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: in American history. That argument has been made by law 188 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: enforcement officials, and there was such an overwhelming amount of 189 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: evidence that there was no way. Oh and by the way, 190 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: he went on the run, put a pistol to his head. 191 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: And the whole time was like, no, I don't deserve 192 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: to live after this, after what I've done, All of 193 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: these things pile up. Well, you can't argue the evidence. 194 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: So what do you do? 195 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 8: You go? 196 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: Hah. 197 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Only way they could have all his evidence is if 198 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: they planted it. 199 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: Oh and eight. 200 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: Out of twelve of the jury or black, Well, it's 201 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: just a white cop, Mark Furman, who planted it. You 202 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: know how those white cops are so now we don't 203 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: argue over the evidence. We just argue that there's no 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: way all this evidence would exist, right. I mean, it's 205 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy's moment in was it Was it delirious or 206 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: was it raw? Where the Jedi mind trick. His wife 207 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: comes home, he's having sex with another woman, and she 208 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: leaves and storms. 209 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Out, and he runs back. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. 210 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: I saw you in there. 211 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Oh it was me. Uh well, yeah, I was having 212 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: sack with her, but I make love to you. Like 213 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: he had to change his whole story. He had to 214 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: do the Jedi mind trick on her. Well, here we 215 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: got Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass who left. Why was 216 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: she going to Ghana? See, this is what these people do. 217 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: Semester Turner, when he is mayor of Houston, would do this. 218 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: They're always on some junket to a foreign country. There's 219 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: no trade being done. She's investigating why they allowed her 220 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: to leave, by the way she stayed there after the 221 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: fires broke out. She wants to know who allowed her 222 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: to leave. They shouldn't have allowed her to she They 223 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: should have told her to stay here. 224 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 9: Going to go to Ghana, which I know you've said 225 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 9: was a mistake now, But I just am curious on 226 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 9: the thought process behind thanks, because we know that there 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 9: was warnings about the weather before you went, and you 228 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 9: still went. What was the thought process behind going to Ghana? 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 10: So let me just tell you a couple of things. 230 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 10: First of all, when the White House called and asked 231 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 10: me if I would represent the president, I said yes. 232 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 10: It was going to be a very very short trip 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 10: over a weekend and. 234 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Two business days. 235 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 10: We need to look at everything about the preparation and 236 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 10: all of that for the fires, because I think when 237 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 10: we evaluate that, we will find that although there were 238 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 10: warnings that I frankly wasn't aware of, Although there were warnings. 239 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 8: I think our preparation it. 240 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 10: Wasn't what it typically is, meaning that before there's a 241 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 10: major weather event. For example, last week, when we knew 242 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 10: we were going to get into the rains, you saw 243 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 10: us come together and us talk about, you know, get 244 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 10: your sandbags, bring the k rails out. That type of 245 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 10: preparation didn't happen. 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 8: If that had I. 247 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 10: Will tell you, Alex, I wouldn't have even gone to 248 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 10: San Diego, let alone leave the country. 249 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 9: But what do you mean there were warnings you weren't 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 9: aware of because I know we were talking about it 251 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 9: on the news. A lot of people were talking about 252 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 9: the problems, warning that this was going to be a 253 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 9: huge So. 254 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 10: When I talked about it with the fire chief, what 255 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 10: she said is is that we don't want there. 256 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: She's mad at everybody else that she left and stayed out. 257 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: Might I remind you this is how cities elect bad 258 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: mayors and keep them there because they'll buy this nonsense. 259 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Might I remind you that Mary and Barry. 260 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Went to prison and still got re elected to city 261 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: council afterwards. Remember the old Chris Rock bit and. 262 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 8: Get you know what that means? I find us out. 263 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: We had a crackheadles did look you want? 264 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 8: You're knowing right? How Mandy bagget is job back? Smoke 265 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 8: Crack got job back? How the hell that happened? 266 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: I mean, if you get caught Funckel Craig of McDonald's. 267 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 8: You can't get your job back. 268 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 11: That's right. 269 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 8: They're not gonna. 270 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 5: Trust you around the happy meals, send your lay as 271 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: the hearties. 272 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 8: Small Crack got his job all over the who was 273 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 8: so bad? Who ran against him? So that they lost? 274 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 8: Who was so bad? They lost to a crackhead. What 275 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 8: are they campaigns like? 276 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 12: Who they are handling? 277 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 8: Both for me? 278 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: Both for me? 279 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 8: Don't krank bus man? 280 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: Come on, man, I gonna tell little kids and not 281 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: get high one A man's OK, don't get high. 282 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 8: It will be done. I'll be man. Listen, Tom Will. 283 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: What's crazy? As you still remember the name douglu Ellen. 284 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: He'd wait outside the courtroom. Would you get the reaction 285 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: parties the case in the court the people's court judge 286 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: Chloseph Walker who was born on this day, I'm sorry, 287 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: died on this day eight years ago, twenty seventeen. He 288 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: would live to be ninety eight years old. That's amazing. 289 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: He's born in nineteen nineteen. What's amazing is he seemed 290 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: old back then. Imagine him, continued, I always had that 291 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: very stern look. But when he would cut a joke, 292 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: it was like the the dean of the school was 293 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: always so stern. And when that guy, like you know, 294 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: when when when Trump cuts a smile, when he when 295 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: he when he allows a little bit of a smirk 296 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: while he's telling the joke, it's so much more powerful 297 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: because he's always so serious and so stern all the time. Anyway, 298 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: I loved the People's Court, and I mean who didn't, 299 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean who didn't set their way? Who hasn't said 300 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: one minute to Watnerac's weird. 301 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: We don't get in Listen. Yeah, she looks. 302 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 13: Normal as possible. Put your hands on shut up and 303 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 13: stand there. 304 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 11: Down there. 305 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 14: Good afternoon, madam Donald Clemens from the ac Nielsen Company. 306 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: You're familiar with her work. 307 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 14: Nielsen you mean the TV rights maness exactly. And now 308 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 14: you've been selected as a preliminary candidate to become our 309 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 14: next Nielsen family in the Tri County area. And you selected, 310 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 14: you'll share the responsibility for shaping television programming viewed by 311 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 14: our entire nation, in return for which you receive a 312 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 14: check in the amount of two hundred and eighty six 313 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 14: dollars each month. That that that that would be my partner, 314 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 14: mister Bainbridge, who does simple? 315 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 8: That's it? 316 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 14: You boy, You don't get. 317 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 8: You were in there, you had it. 318 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 7: All history, legal history. 319 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 8: What is going on out here? 320 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm very sorry about that. That man right 321 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: there is my brother and. 322 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 14: If he doesn't get to watch People's Born about thirty seconds, 323 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 14: he's gonna throw a fit right here in your porn 324 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 14: show and you can help me, or you can stand 325 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 14: there and watch it happen. 326 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: That movie. 327 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: You know, the point of film and theater is to 328 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: create attention. 329 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: You know, a good guy, bad guy. You're you're so 330 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: moved by your brother. 331 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: You watch that film and you can't help but love 332 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: you love Raymond, but you feel for Tom Cruise's character. 333 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: Such a good such a good movie. It really is. 334 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: Bill Hicks one of the most influential comedians of all time. 335 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: I never found Bill Hooks to be that funny, like 336 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: just laugh out loud funny, but much like Carlin, carln 337 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: was more of a thinking man's comedian. Just like Carlin, 338 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: Bill Hicks had so much influence on the comedy of today. 339 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: But since I love Elvis, and this is actually one 340 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: of my favorite Bill Hicks bits, I love Elvis. 341 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 12: Elvis is a king, without doubt, the king. You know 342 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 12: what he gave away over one hundred and sixty Cadillacts 343 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 12: in his career, or anybody know that one hundred and 344 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 12: sixty they're probably thinking, what did he give those two try. 345 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Total strangers. 346 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 15: Given me? 347 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Correct? 348 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 8: One hundred and sixty Cadillacs gave him what? I think, 349 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 8: that's what killed Elvis. 350 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't drugs. He got that bill from General Motors. 351 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: Oh man, how many. 352 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 12: Cadillacs that I'll give him away? I got a tour again. 353 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 12: I can't even fit my jumpsuit. Man, I can't even 354 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 12: get up. Sonny Red, get the dolly shunning Red, get 355 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 12: the butter and the crowbar. Pup the king. How you 356 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 12: doing to eat? Kind of hot out? Huh yeah, maybe 357 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 12: you feel cooler and I'll brand new Cadillac Eli quid it. 358 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 8: I'm just trying to be nice, wow, Sonny. 359 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 12: Because you're giving away too many cadillacsy Sonny, you move 360 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 12: the little tens well, I am ten see well, maybe 361 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 12: you'd be less. 362 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 8: Tense and a bran new cattle. 363 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: She thinks. 364 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 12: I think dian was the best career move Elvis ever made. 365 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 9: I think if he'd lived, you know what I mean, 366 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 9: he was getting fatter, he's getting more unknown if he'd lived, 367 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 9: but he'd be like touring with fog hat. 368 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Now that's actually pretty funny. And by the way, think 369 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: about how long ago that was. He died in ninety four, 370 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: so it's even Bill Hicks. Elvis Well will leave that side. 371 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: It says we're on the subject I said wrong on 372 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: the subject. I'm going to take a moment if I 373 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: could also born on this day the great Jackie Gleeson. 374 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what of all the great roles 375 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: he played to me, nothing like this one. 376 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 15: I had a couple of cheese vergers of glass sized team. 377 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 15: I'm gonna tell you, man, a dollar. 378 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 7: And a half art, keep checking, let me have I do. 379 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: I'll go, Sam got back, I make it fast. 380 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something. I realized the 381 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: critics panned this. 382 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 16: Movie and. 383 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Ran it down. Are we going? 384 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: But they say pan, I'm gonna make a leap here 385 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: and follow them. 386 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: There was a Jewish fellow from New York who did. 387 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: Not like the evangelical Christians of the South being his 388 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: primary audience. We didn't like that they were not sufficient 389 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: to po And he said something. 390 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Here, it takes off count. 391 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: He called him blanks that rhymes with spits, and he 392 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: said some pretty nasty things. And he basically he remade CBS, 393 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: which was number one in the ratings, but had things 394 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: like Beverly Hillbillies and Green Acres and key Haul, and 395 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: he kicked all that off and remade to the station. 396 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: But there is Smoking the Bandit. 397 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 2: When it came out, there was this belief that you 398 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: wanted to and you wanted to make movies that were 399 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: artistic and the critics would like them. 400 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: You would address the social dilemmas. You can't give the 401 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: people what they want. You can't dare. 402 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: Provide content that is about a lifestyle that is not 403 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: your own. 404 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. 405 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: I had relatives who drove trucks, relatives who were cops, 406 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: relatives who were outlaws, and the idea of the challenge 407 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: of getting the beer from Texas, Canada to Georgia, and 408 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: the cops are on your trail and the eighteen wheelers 409 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: are slinging, shotting you and the CB. 410 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: Radio and the dog. 411 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: There's a snowman and Smoky and you know the trans am. 412 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean that was the kind of people who criticized 413 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: that movie as it's not a serious movie. The same 414 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: kind of people who will never understand the Trump. 415 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Is here, got the dog, tim You've got. They will 416 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: not understand why Trump was at NASCAR this weekend. 417 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: They will not understand why Trump is beloved at the 418 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: hockey matches. They will not understand why Trump is beloved 419 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl and smoking de Bandit is a 420 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: perfect example of that. They couldn't understand where Duck Dynasty 421 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: came from. Is the biggest thing on all the TV. 422 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: They couldn't understand who are these people watching it? 423 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: This is the Michael Berry's show. 424 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 16: He's showing Before there was George Floyd, before there were 425 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 16: the hospital, the race hustlers, and the cases that have 426 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 16: been used for race hustling in the modern era. 427 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: OJ Simpson being found not guilty. I mean, my goodness, 428 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: there was seventeen year old Trayvon Martin. He was shot 429 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: to death by the neighborhood watch coordinator on this day 430 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. George Zimmerman was the fellow's name in Sandford, Florida, 431 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: and Barack Obama, just like the what led to the 432 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: beer summit, saying the police officer acted stupidly, Barack Obama 433 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: waded in and should not have. 434 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 15: My main messages is to the parents of the Trayvon Martin. 435 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 15: You know, if I had a son, he'd looked like Trayvon. 436 00:25:52,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 15: And I think they are right to expect that all 437 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 15: of us as Americans are going to take this with 438 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 15: the seriousness that deserves and that We're going to get 439 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 15: to the bottom of exactly what. 440 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: Happened, and we did, didn't we About two months after 441 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: the death of Treyvon, we got a call from a 442 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: lady named Betsy, and according to Betsy, George Zimmerman was 443 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: a self confessed murderer and should have been arrested on 444 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: the spot. 445 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: This is Betsy from Florida. Let's see if you're buying it? 446 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Is that Besty? Betsy? All right, what's up? 447 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 11: But I'm just calling to say that I just I 448 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 11: can't even fathom why there was. 449 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: In what case, in the. 450 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 11: Trevon Martin case in Florida? 451 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: Okay, who did you want arrest Zimmerman? 452 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 11: The one, the self confessed murderer? 453 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: But what wait a minute, you're calling in from Boca Ratan. Yes, 454 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: you listened to our show from Boca Raton. 455 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: Oh I don't. Then how'd you find us? I found 456 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: you on the internet today. 457 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: Yes, really, just looking around for radio shows. Yeah, oh 458 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: sounds reasonable. 459 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: Well let's pretend you did. 460 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: Okay, so we should have arrested So they should have 461 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: arrested mister Zimmerman. 462 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 9: Win. 463 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 11: They should have arrested him the night that have happened 464 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 11: on February twenty sixth. 465 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: February twenty sixth, do you know the day? How convenient? 466 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: Okay, at what point should they have arrested him the 467 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: moment they arrived? Yeah? 468 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Is that is that? On what basis murderers usually should 469 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: be arrested? Okay, No, Betsy, Betsy, I'm sorry, you're gonna 470 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: have to understand. 471 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 11: I'm a little emotional about it. 472 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know what, and sometimes emotion is better 473 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: than reason. But in this case, let's just use reason. 474 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: I'm operating at a little bit of a disadvantage. I 475 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: have two law degrees, so get get I get confused 476 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: by things like the criminal justice system and the protections 477 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: afforded an individual. Metsy, Betsy, I want to make very clear. 478 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: I want to make very clear. I think you're right. 479 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: I think they shouldn't have arrested him. They should have 480 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: just shot him on the spot. But but let's just 481 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: let let's go back, because I think this is what. 482 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not why bother arrested him? Just shoot him? 483 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: I mean he already he's already a self confessed murderer. 484 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 11: Oh, that is not the way the US justice system. 485 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 11: I'm so you said you were a lawyer, you failed 486 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 11: the bar band. 487 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. 488 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: Betsy, Betsy, Betsy, Betsy, Betsy here, Betsy, I understand you're frustrated. 489 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: I understand, But what was walk me through this? 490 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: You understand? 491 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: What about me? I'm sorry, I understand you're frustrated. 492 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Betsy ye from Boca ra Tom, Florida, who 493 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: just happened to discover our show today and knows all 494 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: the details of this case, let me ask you this. So, so, 495 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: when officers arrived, they should have arrested the man. 496 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: Is that right? 497 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 11: They should have arrested George. Okay, at that moment, the 498 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 11: gun standing over the dead body. 499 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: I understand that. 500 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 2: Is it typically the case that when someone is standing 501 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: over a dead body that an arrest is made at 502 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: that moment? 503 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: I was really on what basis, lawyer? No, I didn't. 504 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I didn't say you were. Are you an officer? Officer 505 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: of what? I don't know. I'm wondering on. 506 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: What basis you would assume that in a case like 507 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: that an arrest would be made? 508 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 11: Well, it's irrelevant. 509 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: Do you need a lifeline? I can wait? 510 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 11: No, it isn't relevant, but go ahead. 511 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm you're making a point that mister Zimmerman 512 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: should have been arrested. 513 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm should he have been arrested at that point? What? What? Okay? 514 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: On what basis? 515 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 11: Because he was standing over a dead body with the 516 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 11: smoking gun? 517 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, and we typically arrest people standing over 518 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: a dead body with a smoking gun. 519 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I would say, yes, okay, in what percentage of cases? 520 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 11: I have no idea? 521 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're you're pretty sure. 522 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 11: Internet a man? 523 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh if he was a black man? Right? 524 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now let me ask you this, what 525 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: would you then charge? 526 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: Let's just to say you did? You did arrest him 527 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: on the spot, and. 528 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 11: Then uh you would Because I'm not a police officer, no. 529 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: But but you you you feel comfortable telling someone else 530 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: to arrest him. Okay, So when they arrested him, then 531 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: should they have charged him? 532 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: The next morning? 533 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 11: He should have been arranged in the court. I don't 534 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 11: know what the timeline is in but. 535 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: You just said it should have all been done. 536 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: I tell you what, Betsy, you're in charge, You're the 537 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: mayor of the district attorney, the judge, everything. 538 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: What would you do? Go ahead? 539 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 11: I'm not a policeman now, but. 540 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: You're questioning the actions of I'm Actually you. 541 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 11: Want me to start. 542 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: You're anything you want to be, You're you're everything, You're 543 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: what you always wanted to be. 544 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: You're in charge of everything, George. Okay, and then what. 545 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 11: I would have taken him to the local office for 546 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 11: questioning and put him in jail. 547 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay. How long would you keep him in jail? 548 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 11: I would read him his rights and put him in 549 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 11: jail and tell such time that the court took over. 550 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 11: I would be done with it at that point because 551 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 11: the policeman want me to be the. 552 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: Court now, yes, and then the court. So you're the. 553 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 11: Lawyer, what happens that one? 554 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, Betsy. I don't know, Betsy. 555 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: I would you're his lawyer? 556 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 13: What happens? 557 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: No, no, Betsy, Betsy, Betsy, Betsy. I think I think 558 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: what this case. 559 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Boils down to is this man does not deserve any 560 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: rights because his victim who he as you said, Let 561 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: me ask you this, Betsy. You said he was a 562 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: confessed murderer. 563 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Is that right? 564 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 11: Self confessed? 565 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: Self confessed, so no one else confessed it for him. 566 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: He confessed it himself. 567 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Correct. 568 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: Wow, That's the worst kind of confession is when you 569 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: give it yourself and he's a self confessed murderer. 570 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: He said, I murdered the man. 571 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 12: I was. 572 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: You said, he's a self confessed murderer. 573 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 11: At what point was heard on what I heard on tape? 574 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh? What tape? 575 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 576 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: You heard the nine one one tape? Is that right? Okay? 577 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: And on the nine one one tape he said, I 578 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: did it? I George Zimmerman am a self confessed murderer. 579 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 11: No, no, no, not on the tape. 580 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh. 581 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: Well, then where I'm willing to go along with whatever 582 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: you say? You just have to say it. 583 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 11: I can't. 584 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: We don't. People, don't you know? You are prepared for 585 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: this one. I wasn't there. 586 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 11: You're correct, you're but if I was the police officer, 587 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 11: I would have heard it. 588 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: You would have went the officer. 589 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, he said, I shot the guys. 590 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: What well? 591 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: I do know? 592 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Okay, just so you know, sweetheart, shooting someone is not murder. 593 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 11: Okay, it isn't fair, unarm you're running away from is it? 594 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 15: Yeah? 595 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh you know what do you call it? 596 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 15: No? 597 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: No, no, Betsy, Betsy, Betsy. 598 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare. Two little law degrees. 599 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't know crap about anything. You clearly you know Betsy, 600 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: this would be a good point in the conversation for 601 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: you to stop making attempting to make rational arguments. 602 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: Thank you and good night.