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Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Coming to you from a beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: This is interesting, right, I mean, we're doing a lot 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: of first here. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Right. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm the first Division one men's head basketball coach to 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: have a Nashal radio show, and this is the first 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: time we've ever done a show after we've won a game. 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Granted we didn't win many games last year. Guys, okay, 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: so there is that issue with it. They're like, wow, 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: we haven't done for when you went up games last 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: year to do it. But we had a game today. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: It was an education day where you know, has four 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: thousand screaming children in attendance. As enjoyable as that may sound. 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: As enjoyable as that may sound, we end up getting 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: getting the win, so it was good. Meanwhile, it's a 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing right where Jay Stu is texting 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: me story updates while the game is in progress, and 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: thankfully I did not have my phone on me, so 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: it's not like buzzing. But I do have the news 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: of the day and we'll get to it. And then 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: the news of the night is tonight lambeau Field Monday 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Night football, Packers Eagles, big time game and what again 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: at this point in the season, could be forecasting for 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: a playoff matchup, which would be a playoff rematch, So 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: a million different little things to get to. Congrats to 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Dan Byer's Seattle Seahawks with a dominating win yesterday. And 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: congrats to Jay stew and my LA Chargers they get 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: a big win on Sunday Night football that we'll get to. 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: But the news of the day is Brian Dabole is 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: out out with the new New York Football Giants. Day 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Ball was asked yesterday after the game about his job security. 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Here was his response. 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Pretty worried about your job too many? 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just focused on you know, these guys in 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: the locker room. You know, they're tough losses, Dan, they 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: really are. Everybody puts so much into it, The coach 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: has put so much into it. The players, you know, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: and it's painful when you have when you have these endings, 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: you know, you stick together and you know that's what 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: that's what you have to do. 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Here's the statement from John Mara, the chairman and chairman 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Steve Tish in a joint statement quote, we spoke this 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: morning about the direction of our franchise on the field. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: We decided that this time, at this time, it's in 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: our best interest to make a change in the head 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: coaching musician. The past few seasons have been nothing short 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: of disappointing. We have not met our expectations for the franchise. 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: We understand the franestation of our fans in order to 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: deliver a significantly improved product. We appreciate coach Dayball for 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: his contributions to organization. We wish coach day Ball and 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: his family the best in the future. Joel Shane, who's 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: there general manager, said, we feel like Joe has assembled 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: a good young nucleus of talent. We look forward to 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: its development. Unfortunately, the results over the past three years 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: have not been what any of us want. We take 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: full responsibility for those results. 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: We look forward to the. 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Kind of success the fans expect. I always love when 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: a general manager say, hey, we take full accountability for it, 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: so he's fired. H oh, Sorry, that was the owner 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: statement on Joe Shane. 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: So yeah. 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get that those losses are devastating. 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he lost his job because of this year. 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: It's really interesting people's inability to process when they have 73 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: had Cam scattabo they were the talk of the league. 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: He breaks his ankle and suddenly everybody forgot the energy 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: that they had had when they put Jackson, Dart and 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Scattaboy and installed them in their backfield. 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: Again. 78 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna disagree with this move. And 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I understand that somebody says, well, you're a coach, your 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: team struggling, so you don't want to see any coach fired. 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not the case in the NFL especially. I don't 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: understand what this What does this do for you right? 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Like doesn't get you ahead of the curve with free agents, 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: doesn't put you ahead of the curve with trying to 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: find a new coach, Like there's nobody who you want 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: who's not going to be on the market and be 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: available once you get into January. This just feels a 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: lot like the Jets, overreactive to fans and their desires. 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: He's the same coach who engineered the upset of the 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. I don't think any of us had great 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: expectations of the Giants, and when you have the level 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: of injuries that they've had, I don't know what anybody 93 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: expects of them. So again, if you want to look 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: at it and go, oh, well, hey, they didn't win yesterday, 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: and they lost in devastating fashion to the Bear who 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: came back and beat him late, it's fair, okay, But 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: what were your expectations? Where are you in your development? 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Remember the Bears had this same type of season last 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: year when they had a rookie quarterback. You have a 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, you've been just besieged by injuries. It may 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: not be good enough for you, but I don't. I 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: guess here's my thing, Dan Byer, I don't understand. If 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Brian Daboll is the guy to work with quarterbacks, and 104 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback and you've seen some good production 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: out of a rookie quarterback, then why would you put 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: another voice in the rookie quarterback's ear at this point 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: in time or even in the next year. 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: That part I don't understand well. 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: I think that they considering the name Mike Kafka as 110 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: the interim head coach. I think that that has a 111 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: little something to do with where they think Jackson Dart's 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: development could continue if he stays healthy. And that's another point. 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: As he's knocked out of yesterday's game and Russell Wilson 114 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: comes in and does nothing and the Bears come back 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: from a ten point deficit and rally and get the win, 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: there seems to be an enormous disconnect. But you can't 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: ignore the numbers of day bole. They just have won 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: eleven games since the first season he took over, there 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: were a nine win team. They went to the playoffs, 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: they beat the Vikings and then they lost to the 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: Eagles in the divisional round. But since that point they've 122 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: won eleven games total. It's the third straight year they're 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: two to eight, and no matter how great things have 124 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: been with Jackson Dart, at some point a change needs 125 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: to be made. And I don't know if Joe Shane 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: is the ear of John Marra and the other ownership 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: the Tish family in terms of making that decision, but 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: I noticed on TikTok. Over the last week or so, 129 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: there was a lot of anti Joe Shane rhetoric coming out, 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: and so there almost seems doug to be a divide 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: maybe even between Joe Shane and find Dable. So Dabell 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: ends up being the fall guy. That's maybe plasier with 133 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: all of it. 134 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: But I think that I don't think there's any I 135 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know there's any question that if Joel Shane still 136 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: has a job and Brian Dabole doesn't, that there's a 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: disconnect between the two of them. And again, I'm my 138 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: My point continues to be and I get it. You 139 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: give Kafka, I guess a little bit of a look here, 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: but you know this is not that different from what 141 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: we saw with Penn State, Like, well, what did you 142 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: expect when Russell Wilson takes over and you know you've 143 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: had the level of injuries that they've had. 144 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Again, you can make a change. I'm not saying you 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: can't make coaching changes. I don't understand the mid season 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: coaching change. I don't get that. And you could say, well, 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: he's had enough seasons, enough time, like okay, what are 149 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: we what do. 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: We do here. 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: When you bring in and you change coaches out mid season, 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: you're giving Kafka a chance to be a head coach. 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: He's still just going to call the call the offense. 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: It's not really going to change that much, a little 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: bit of a different voice. 156 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: What is interesting with Kafka, though, is he has interviewed 157 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: for head coaching jobs in the NFL before, right, so 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: it's not out of nowhere that he would take over 159 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: and maybe this could be the position. It's also funny 160 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: that it feels like it's the second coach that Russell 161 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: Wilson has gotten fired. 162 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: That was that was the next part I was getting 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: to was happen in Denver? Right, happened in Denver, and 164 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: and it happens here, And it's I mean, that's that's 165 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: really the part. The common denominator there. He's just not 166 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: any good. And it's not just that he's not any good. 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: And again, you're gonna experience this on any team you 168 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: you cover, any team, you you watch, any team you're 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: a part of, which is there are guys that are 170 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: competent at their position, or at their job, or at 171 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: their role, but other guys just don't like them, right 172 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: for whatever reason they just and especially at quarterback, it 173 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: just feels like when Russell Wilson trots out there, everybody 174 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: rolls their eyes. 175 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go again. 176 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: There was a scenario in yesterday's game, and I know 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: Packers played a night. I don't know if Giants Bears 178 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: was the local game in Green Bay, but there was 179 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: a scenario in the game yesterday where the Giants were 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: facing a goal to go situation and on first and 181 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: goal from the seven, they gave it to Devon Singletary 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: who got it down to the Chicago one. So now 183 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: your second and goal at the one and a seventeen 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: to ten ballgame. They gave it to Devin Singletary again, 185 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: he lost the yard, so now it's third and goal 186 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: at the two. Then Russell Wilson ran for his life 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: scrambling got it back to the one, third and goal 188 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: or on that third goal, so now it's fourth and goal, 189 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: and they kicked a nineteen yard field goal to go 190 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: up ten. Most teams probably would have gone for it 191 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: in that situation, but the Giants. For what the Bears 192 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: had done offensively up to that point, they had only 193 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 3: scored ten points. It was a windy day in Chicago, 194 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: but they ended up kicking the field goal that maybe 195 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: gave Chicago life and the rest is history. Fourteen unanswered 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: and the Bears leave with a win. So we had 197 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: Pam Oliver on our Sunday show yesterday. She did the sideline. 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: She said, the air was absolutely taken out of the 199 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Giants when Jackson Dart went out with the concussion. 200 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: And that's the thing about Russell Wilson. And that's honestly, 202 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't gone to Jameis Winston, you know, 203 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: because Jameis Winston, though he can be a turnover machine, 204 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: there's an energy that he brings that you have to 205 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: have when you come in as a backup, and Russell 206 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: does not have that. When Russell Wilson comes in, it's 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: a Debbie downer. Everybody rolls their eyes. Oh boy, here 208 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: we go. 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: And this is what the Giants did, Okay, after they 210 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: were able to get the h to get a stop. 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: When Russell Wilson is in the contest, they end up 212 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: running the ball on consecutive place Doug second and first 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: and ten five yards second and ten holding penalty backs 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: him up second and twenty tyrone Tracy five yards third 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: and fifteen from the Chicago thirty eight yard line. Five yards. 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: They just ran the ball up ten. Then the Bears 217 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: went and answered with their two touchdown drives. They were 218 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: unwilling to let Russell Wilson throw the football or do 219 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: anything with the football team. 220 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Because it's pretty obvious that he can't do it. And 221 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that's why there's the collective eye rolling, you know, I mean, 222 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: it just is. I mean, I have nothing against the guy. 223 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't know him. We've had no negative interactions. I'm 224 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: just telling you that I had heard. Obviously it's he's 225 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: really got the weirdest career ever, right, Because the perfect 226 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: example of it is, can you recall a team dan 227 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Byer in your twenty years, Jasetu, you're the same, We've 228 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: all been in this thing combined seventy five plus years. 229 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Right. 230 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Can you recall a player who is the quarterback of 231 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: a team that won the Super Bowl another team that 232 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: lost in the Super Bowl that was perennially dominant that 233 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I haven't ever heard a former Seahawk come out and 234 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: go that's my guy. Hey, you guys are being critical. 235 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: He was awesome when he's in Seattle. Nobody nobody like 236 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: for all the and we all agree that Aaron Rodgers 237 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: was better at his peak and his better quarterback. But 238 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: for all of Aaron Rodgers haters out there, Aaron Rodgers 239 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: has all those guys that played with him before would 240 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: love to play with him again. Don't see that from 241 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It's the weirdest career ever that no one 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: is excited about Russell Wilson being the quarterback of their team. 243 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: No one is excited about him coming into his back, 244 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: Like can you imagine if you're on the Giants. Think 245 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: about this for a second. You're on the Giants and 246 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: your quarterback goes down, Like, all right, who are you 247 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: going to next? How about a guy who's been you know, 248 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: probably a Hall of Famer, won a Super Bowl, been 249 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: in another one, perennially top ten quarterback in the league. 250 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: He comes trotting in. You would think normally everybody like, hey, 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: we got Russell Wilson, We're good. And it's the exact 252 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: opposite of that. From play callers to overall mojo to feeling, 253 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: it's the weirdest career I can possibly think of. 254 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 255 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 256 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 257 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Dan Dan, And you'd 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: ask me a question. What's the appropriate question you should 259 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: ask everybody who's in Green Bay about tonight? 260 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: How cold is it going to be? Oh? 261 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one question. It's gonna be called really cold. 262 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Next question, kickoff about twenty nine degrees. 263 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: In college tuobs, green Bay topped ripping eighty three sixty three. 264 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they did, Yeah they did. 265 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: Is that a win because we were I didn't think 266 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: it was? And Sam says, because was it an exhibition? 267 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: Or is it because they're D three? 268 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: But it's still everybody. Everybody in our league plays D 269 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: three teams. 270 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that you're alone in that. But 271 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: there were times when I remember, you know, Wisconsin would 272 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: play like hey, uw Platfills coming to town to open 273 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: the season. So I wasn't sure if. 274 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: That was that was it? And that was a game 275 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: as well. The first two. So the first two were exhibitions. 276 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: We played Bradley, we lost an exhibition. We played Saint Norbert, 277 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: also a Division three played badly an exhibition once you 278 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: start playing games, unless it's unless it's signified as an exhibition, 279 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: it is an official game. 280 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So does Rippan count the loss because ESPN didn't 281 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: have their skin, their record on their their their low. 282 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: They they want to know another one one, okay, so 283 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: well we will definitely take it. 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: They will take it, and as. 285 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: As many of my friends and coaching because last year 286 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I was like, we're not playing Division three, so we 287 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: played one Division two. We had you know, we had 288 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: injuries and we get popped. And uh, all my coaching 289 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: buddies like, dude, play four of them. Our league only 290 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: lets you play two. They're like, nobody cares. Just win games. 291 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: It's all anybody cares about. I mean, that's the difference 292 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: last year. And we won four games with the air 293 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: four Division one games. There's plenty of other teams that 294 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: won six or seven, but they won like four D 295 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: three games. 296 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Sure, so we don't have to give it back. 297 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Now it's Doug otlab Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 298 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: They played really well, they were they shot the hell 299 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: out of the basketball. Uh, let's welcome in Tom to LESCo, who, 300 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: of course the former gentlemenager of the Chargers and their 301 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: eight is I got a bunch of things to get 302 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: to first, let me get your reaction Brian Dable. So 303 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: again you have and I haven't talked about this soft air, 304 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: but I do want to ask you. Guys went to 305 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: the same high school, right, but you were a senior, 306 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: he was a freshman in Buffalo. 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: Yes. 308 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when when you made your last coaching hire, 309 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people like, well, they're boys, so 310 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: you're going to hire him. Gimme you interviewed him. What 311 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Brian Dable the coach. 312 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I first of all, I don't care what 313 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: Dan bears. The congrats on the win this morning, so 314 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: take it and move on. 315 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 316 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 6: So yeah, so Brian Dable. Yeah, so I've known Brian 317 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: since I was in high school, good friends with him. So, 318 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 6: but you know, this is a business. So you're looking 319 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 6: at the body of work, and Brian had a great 320 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 6: body of work. He was a coordinator multiple times, kind 321 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 6: of moving up the chain, worked for some great people Belichick, 322 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 6: mcsaban among others, and he had a really good feel 323 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 6: for the overall how he wanted to build a football team. 324 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 6: Now we went in a different direction, but it was 325 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 6: nothing against Brian briand died up spanning in the interview 326 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: process and had a great body of work and he 327 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 6: got the Giants job. And you know, look, the head 328 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: coach is responsible for the final product. And I'm not 329 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 6: a big fan of interim head coaches. But as you know, Doug, 330 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: pro sports and probably college sports at this point, like 331 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 6: there's that pound of flesh mentality that that you know, 332 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 6: somebody has to go, you know, because the team underperformed, 333 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: certainly on defense. Offensively, there's a lot of reasons for that, 334 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: but certainly them under performed on defense. 335 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What about 336 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: the timing of it? 337 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Right like they're winning the game, Uh, Dark goes down, 338 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson comes in, they lose the game late, he's 339 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: had Scataboo gets hurt. Now Dark gets in the in 340 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: concussion protocol and they lose the game. You know, we're 341 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: not We're we're just past the midway point. What are 342 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the logic behind the timing of making 343 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: a change. 344 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 6: Now, I'm not a big fan of it, and this 345 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: is not something the Giants do very often, so that 346 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 6: that may just tell you behind the scenes that just 347 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: really wasn't going very well at all because they're a 348 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 6: very patient group for their professional group. But certainly this 349 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 6: is not done to try and you know, rally the 350 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 6: troops for this year that this year is essentially over 351 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 6: with and the success rate of interim head coach is 352 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 6: not a good anyway. But what it does give them, 353 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 6: it does give them a chance to start working on 354 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 6: their process of the next set coach as far as research, 355 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 6: talking to people, and it gives them a chance to 356 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 6: do it without doing it behind Brian Gables back, which 357 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 6: nobody would want to see that some professional way to 358 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 6: do it. So it gives them more time. Now they 359 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 6: can't talk with anybody obviously unless someone is out of 360 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 6: work like at like McCarthy or somebody like that. But 361 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 6: it gives them a chance to really start diving into 362 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 6: their homework on who's going to be on their interview 363 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 6: list as soon as the season is over. 364 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Supports Radio. Tom telasco 365 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: is our guests. He's a former general manager both the 366 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Chargers and for last year the Raiders. Chargers get to 367 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: win over the Steelers. You and I have discussed these 368 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: two teams separately before was last night about the Chargers 369 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: or about excuse me, the Steelers? 370 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: Has last night about the Chargers or the Steelers. 371 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: Good question. It's usually always it's got the a combination 372 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 6: of both. And that's I think what you saw last 373 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 6: night just between the Chargers defense or it's really it 374 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 6: had some off weeks recently, but they really picked it 375 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 6: up last night. And if you can get the Steelers 376 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: in a two score game where the Charges are up 377 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: by two scores, and if you can force Pittsburgh to 378 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 6: now it's going to have to be a straight drop 379 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 6: back the majority of the rest of the game, that's 380 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 6: where they're going to struggle. They just don't have the 381 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 6: pass protection up front. They're just not built for that. 382 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 6: They're more built for run the ball, play action, moved 383 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: the pocket, and obviously at this point Aaron Rodgers he 384 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 6: does not have the capability that he had in the past. 385 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 6: We saw it last year at the Jets. We saw 386 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: we saw some games like this last year at the Jets, 387 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 6: so we shouldn't be overly surprised that that would happen 388 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 6: last night. But the Chargers didn't blit a lot. They 389 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 6: were able to get pressure with four because they saw 390 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 6: some weaknesses on the edges and the quarterback really just 391 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 6: couldn't couldn't get movement inside the pocket. And then there 392 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 6: wasn't a whole lot of people a throat too. They 393 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 6: took Metcalf away. Jenny Smith has had a really good year, 394 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 6: but they couldn't get him going. And other than that, 395 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 6: there's nowhere to go with the football and you're just 396 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 6: not going to run it as much when you're down 397 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 6: by two scores. So that was just, you know, a 398 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 6: combination of the Chargers defense, which played outstanding last year. 399 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 6: It's been a little up and down this year, but 400 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 6: saw last night and the charge of defense is what 401 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 6: we saw in the past. They can really shut people 402 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 6: down both on the pass when they get going. 403 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: Man Herbert's good. I mean with no offensive line. I 404 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: mean you just got backups all over and he's still outstanding. 405 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean why you pay him. 406 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 407 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 6: That's why you pay these guys the money you pay them, 408 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 6: because as you get injuries or people are not performing, 409 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 6: they have to raise the level of everybody else. And 410 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: he did that. 411 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: Last night, no no question, no question about it. Doug 412 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports traded Tom Telescosner, I guess explain 413 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: for me the Buffalo Bills. 414 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: They're just going to have to get in the playoffs. 415 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 6: That's that's gotta be the goal right now. When the 416 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 6: year started, they had a ton of injuries that they're 417 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 6: still working through that. There hasn't been a big consistency 418 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 6: level on either side of the ball. On defense, and 419 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 6: I talked about this this summer that you know they're 420 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 6: they're run defense. I love their linebackers. They're fast, they're rangy, 421 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 6: but they're on the smaller side, and when teams line 422 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 6: up and run the ball hard at them, you know 423 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 6: you're weak to show up. He saw that yesterday. I've 424 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 6: had a lot of mistackles from the middle of the 425 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 6: defense to the running game. They're on defense struggled offensively. 426 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 6: I know they don't have a number one receiver, but 427 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: it hasn't been a bit much of an issue because 428 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 6: Josh Allen just spreads the ball around to everybody. Now, 429 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: Dalton Kincaid being out with the hamstring and I doubt 430 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: he'd be ready to play this week. Just the way 431 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 6: he came off the field, that looks like a multi 432 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 6: week injury. He was one of their big playmakers, and 433 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 6: that's gonna hurt them. It's gonna hurt their offense. They're 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: actually get cooked going a lot more, but they got 435 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 6: to survive a little bit of the injury hits right now. 436 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 6: I'm not if you live in Buffalo right now, you're 437 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: hugely concerned. If you're on the outside looking him like 438 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 6: I am a little bit more measured with it. I 439 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 6: think they're gonna be okay, but they gotta get the 440 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: defense picks a little bit here, and Josh Allen can 441 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 6: still make Josh Allen type plays, but at this point 442 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 6: they're just kind of limping into the second half of 443 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 6: the season. You'd like to see better football, and I 444 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: think we'll see it from them moving forward. 445 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: What is it that makes Rabel so good? 446 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 6: How they put this team together as fast as they have, 447 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 6: It's amazing. Between Mike Grabil and Elliott Wolf, they essentially 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: bought a brand new defense and freegency, which rarely ever works, 449 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 6: but it does work if your evaluations are right. You 450 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 6: spend the right money and the right players, and they've 451 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 6: got eight starters on defense that were bought in free agency, 452 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 6: and the defense is playing on point physical. A lot 453 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 6: of that Mike Brabil and then offensively, you know, Drake 454 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 6: May has just taken off. And I think the combination 455 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 6: of him and Josh McDaniel's is just a combination made 456 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: in heaven. It really is. They both both love football, 457 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: both both have high levels of football intelligence, and Drake 458 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: May is just he's and then he added in is 459 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 6: you know, he's got good size, athletic, he's tough, he's accurate. 460 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: The Bucks brought a lot of pressure yesterday like they 461 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 6: do against everybody, and a lot of quarterbacks struggle against it, 462 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 6: and Drake May did not. And Drake May's doing this 463 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 6: without even a full complement of skill players. You know, 464 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 6: I thought they were still a year away from really competing, 465 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 6: and I was completely wrong going into the season. You 466 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 6: see them play now. So they got the quarterback, offensive line, 467 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 6: it's usually improved. They got two rookies playing right now 468 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: in the offensive line, which a huge weakness last year 469 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 6: has been a strength so far this year. So and 470 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: you know this is this is Mike Rabel's in proNT 471 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 6: on the team and it's, uh, this is why some 472 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 6: of these other coaches get let go because you see 473 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: a team like the Patriots that bring a new head coach, 474 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 6: new culture. They made a lot of changes and they've 475 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 6: hit it and they're eight and two right now. 476 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched, you know, you and 477 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: I talk about how much you watch college games even now, 478 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: even still, Fernando Mendoza was okay against Penn State. They 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of they struggled, but the the toe tap by 480 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Omar Cooper Junior was incredible and Mendoza down the stretch 481 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: was really really good. So was Dante More of Oregon. Right, 482 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: he made a couple through a couple of dimes there 483 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: down the stretch. When what's the reality to evaluation? How 484 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: do you evaluate and cut out the noise of oh, 485 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: what he did in college in this clutch throw or 486 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: these numbers when it doesn't necessarily tell the story of 487 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: what will translate in the NFL. 488 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely not a week to week look at 489 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 6: players like a stock market, stock going up, stock going down. 490 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 6: It's just not how it works. You're taking in the 491 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: full body work where there's a year or two years 492 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 6: or three years, and you put it all together and look, 493 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 6: there are gonna be years where there's not a first 494 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: round quarterback. It doesn't mean every single year, there's gonna 495 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 6: be one, two, and three first quarterback. They're going the 496 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: first round. They aren't good enough to go in the 497 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 6: first round. I haven't studied these players yet to know 498 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: that they do have some skills that you like, but 499 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 6: there's no guarantee their first round quarterback. So I actually 500 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: remember last year or two years at this time, like 501 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy, bon Nicks, even Penix, nobody was talking about 502 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: those guys being first round quarterbacks. But after the whole 503 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 6: process went through, they all end up going in the 504 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 6: first round. So there's still a lot of work to 505 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 6: be done. I think both those players really show some 506 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 6: interesting skills. Mendoz Are going back to Cali, he was 507 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 6: this is just TV watching would kind of flash like, 508 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 6: hey who is this kid and do some research on them. 509 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: Dante Moore at UCLA, you know, probably wasn't ready for 510 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 6: prime time yet he was out there as a true 511 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: rushman and you know, had his ups and downs, end 512 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 6: up losing the job halfway through the year, but he 513 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 6: had some real skills as you can see in that game. Now, 514 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 6: are is he ready to play NFL football and to 515 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: be a starter week one? Probably not, but there's still 516 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 6: a lot of work to be done as you look 517 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 6: at the whole body of work for their career. 518 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Uh, what what what's the story with Calibury? Like, what's 519 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: the real story? 520 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: I know he's hurt, but even if he wasn't hurt, 521 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be starting in Arizona. They gave him a 522 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: big contract. What What's what's the real story with Calamary? 523 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 6: I'm not so sure that you know, I wouldn't be 524 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 6: ready to be pushing the job that Jacoby Brissette already. 525 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 6: I mean, Jacoby's been in the league a long time. 526 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 6: It's been with six or seven teams. He's he's been 527 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: a full time starter once or twice. And like I 528 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 6: like Jacoby Brissett a lot. He doesn't turn the ball 529 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 6: over in terms of interceptions, but he's not real mobile 530 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: and he's never really been a long time full time starter. 531 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray is still the most talents of the two quarterbacks. 532 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: Is there a consistency level there? It just hasn't quite 533 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 6: been there. I can tell you from being an opponent. 534 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 6: He's really hard to play against because you just never 535 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 6: know where he's going to be in the pocket. You 536 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 6: always have to be able to defend his run game. 537 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 6: He's got a big time arm, you know for a 538 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 6: smaller quarterback. But I understand on the offensive side of 539 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: the ball that posed some problems too that you know, 540 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 6: a lot of it is just you know, just natural 541 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 6: playmaking ability, maybe not so much in structure. So the 542 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 6: biggest thing is is, you know, the head coach and 543 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 6: GM weren't there when he was drafted, and there's certainly 544 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 6: an investment level in different players. I still think he's 545 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 6: extremely talented. I'm not ready to give up on him yet, 546 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: but obviously there you know, it could go a different direction. 547 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: But to me, if they're both healthy right now, I 548 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: think Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray is still their starting quarterback. 549 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 6: I don't know if they agree with me on that though. 550 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: No, I listen, I agree with you, but they have 551 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: said that's not the case. So there has to be 552 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: something else there, right because on I'm pure talent playmakings, 553 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: it's not really that close. And again, like you said, 554 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: we know who Jacoby Brissette is. Forget the fumbles yesterday. 555 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: He's a really he's a great dude, really good backup. 556 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: He's not Kyler Murray, who, as you know, talent wise, 557 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: is a starter and has a chance to do some 558 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: elite things, So there has to be some some amount 559 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: of kind of breakdown between relationships in order to tell people, hey, 560 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray healthy, are not healthy? 561 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: He's coming off the bench. 562 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I could see that, and you can see because 563 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 6: it looks like with Brissette, and I'm not surprised by this. 564 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 6: He just brings a sense of calm to the offense. 565 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 6: But you still have you know, the fumbles have been 566 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 6: an issue through his career. But he's just a complete 567 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 6: different style obviously than what they were playing with, which 568 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: was also a little bit you know, it's that's a 569 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 6: little bit different too. They really have to run two different, separate, 570 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 6: two separate offenses to space and the skill sets the 571 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: two quarterbacks. But you could obviously see, you know, there's 572 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 6: some sort of disconnect between him and Marvin Harrison Junior 573 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 6: because they just were out in the same page last 574 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 6: year and even this year the way it started, they 575 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 6: weren't quite in the same page, which is hard to fathom. 576 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 6: So there's got there must be something going on behind 577 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 6: the scenes there. I don't know what it is, but 578 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 6: I still think Kyler is extremely talented and certainly has 579 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 6: much more upside moving forward than Jacobe does. 580 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: At this point. 581 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Uh, Tom, when are you coming up to see the game? 582 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a game at LAMBA like as 583 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: a fan? 584 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 6: I've seen very few professional football games as a fan 585 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: in my lifetime. 586 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: So no, okay, all right, Well how about either this 587 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: year or next year? 588 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 6: Well, I want to double up. I want to catch 589 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 6: a Green Bay Phoenix basketball game and I want to 590 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: see a Green Bay. 591 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: Pack Had you been here today, That's what we did. 592 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: We played at eleven o'clock, so everybody's got plenty of 593 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: time for Monday night football. 594 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: Now I did that for you. 595 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 6: This is me why Okay. I looked at this, I 596 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: saw the score. I'm like, what kind of played this game? 597 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 6: Seven am? Okay, that makes sense now. 598 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: Eleven am is education day, so it was full of 599 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: screaming kids. That was That was the idea. 600 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: Nice grated on the win. 601 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. We will take it. I do not have 602 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: to give it back, though Dan Bayer wants me to 603 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: give it back. I will. I won't give it back. 604 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: It's mine taking it on. 605 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 6: Behalf of all Division three athletes out there. I would 606 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 6: have loved the chance to play against the Division one 607 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 6: team even though I got my butt kicked, but it 608 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 6: would have been. It's just the opportunity would be great. 609 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: To have, no question. 610 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco, general manager of the Chargers and Raiders and 611 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: a good friend of the program, he joins us for 612 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: his weekly spot. 613 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: Tommy, thanks so much for joining us. 614 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: All right, Thanks, Doug, take care. 615 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug 616 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 617 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. You gotta check out 618 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: our new YouTube channel. You would see Dan Bayer in 619 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: his PGA tear shirt. You'd say me and my honor 620 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: the military Military Appreciation Month. Today is the two hundred 621 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of the Marine Corps. 622 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Ooh rah. 623 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is check out the Doug Gottlieb 624 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Show on YouTube. Just at Doug Gottlieb Show. Be sure 625 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: to hit the subscribe button. Don't just stop there, Hit 626 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let me know 627 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: if you agree with my takes. If you absolutely hate them, 628 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: check out the brand new channel on YouTube again, just 629 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe. 630 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: Let's get to Dan Byer in a game. 631 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, Doug, 632 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 7: the game today is big deal, Little deal, No deal? 633 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 7: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That the Rams 634 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 7: dominated the forty nine ers in Santa Clara yesterday, final 635 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: score forty two to twenty six. 636 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a big deal. I just do. 637 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: I know the Niners are all banged up. It's like 638 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: a yearly thing. But we're searching for a team. The 639 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Rams are more believable than the Colts. That's my takeaway. 640 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: And again, like I got Jonathan Taylor, He's winning me 641 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: in my fantasy league. He's unbelievable. But the Rams are 642 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: more believable in the Colts. And I think it's Stafford. 643 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen the numbers he's been putting up? Obscene, obscene. 644 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. 645 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really good. They host the Seahawks coming up 646 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: in week eleven, battle of two seven and two teams. 647 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That Caleb Williams 648 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: led the Bears to another comeback win. It's their sixth 649 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: victory in seven games. 650 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I can't see how it's anything more than a big deal, 651 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, anything more? We all had and we still 652 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: have some questions about Kayleb Williams, but for a first 653 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: time head coach to be able to make it work, 654 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: and Kayleb Williams is not perfect, I mean, this is 655 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: pretty outstanding stuff. And the fact that they keep fighting 656 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: for him when it feels like they're being also pretty 657 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: big stuff. I think it's a big deal. 658 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: With those six wins firmly in the playoff picture right now, 659 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: and maybe the forty nine ers are on their way out. 660 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: Who knows, but Rock Purty could be coming back soon. 661 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: All right, Let's jump over to the AFC. Big deal, 662 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: little deal or no deal? Doug that the Bengals today 663 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: open the twenty one day practice whin do for quarterback 664 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. 665 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. 666 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: It's a big deal, although quarterback has not been as 667 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: much their issue as defense. But can they still be 668 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: a playoff contender when he gets back? That's the big question. 669 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: I know three and six right now. The Jaguars hold 670 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: the final playoff spot in the AFC at five and four, 671 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: so they're two back in the lost column and not insurmountable. 672 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: It's surmountable. No one ever says that elite is surmountable. 673 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: If you ever knows sense, they always say it's insurmountable. 674 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: That everard have you have you ever in your life 675 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: heard anybody say it's surmountable. 676 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: No, Well you just did first time for everything. Yeah, 677 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: the big deal, little deal of no deal. That Indiana 678 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: escaped on the road at Penn State with a late 679 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: touchdown on Saturday. 680 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: Huge huge. 681 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: We can sit there and go, hey, Penn State backup 682 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and at Penn State interim head coach. But this 683 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: is like, that's college football. It's when you're least expected. 684 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: There's that one. You know, this is an Ohio State fan. 685 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I used to call them luck eyes. On the national 686 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: championship years, they would always be like two. You're like, 687 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: there's no reason for them to be close, you know, 688 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: like one year was Perdue that had Ohio State like 689 00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: dead to rights me. 690 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: How was at that game two thousand and four? 691 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: Heck last year, last year? What happened? 692 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: Michigan kicks their ass in the big game, right, So 693 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: this does happen. And when you can just find a 694 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: way to survive, like that's a championship team, You're not 695 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna blow everybody out even once you're way better than 696 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a week after week. 697 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: Now, for the record, it should be not at all. 698 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: High State did go on to win the national championship 699 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: after Michigan beat them thirteen to ten. I said that, Yeah, 700 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: you said kick their A and so, and then Michigan. 701 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: And Ohio State went on the winnst Championship, right y, I. 702 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: Don't know, Okay, yeah, what semantics? 703 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: You know you don't like the guy said they kicked 704 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: their ass. 705 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: I hate. I think you're trying to get back at 706 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: me for questions using a parallel of probably call in 707 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: and call me Dan Bayer or something like that. That's 708 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: probably where we're headed. Let's bring them in tom to 709 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: Lasco joining us here. Uh, just kidding. By the way, 710 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: two thousand and two, like half of the season was 711 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: that with Ohio State. Every single game was a root canal, 712 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 3: but they prevailed, all right, finally, Doug big deal, little dealer, 713 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: no deal that former lsu A coach Brian Kelly has 714 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 3: rejected all settlement offers from the school as he's due 715 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: fifty four million dollars on his contract. 716 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: What's the Russian guy in rounders? Jay Stu? 717 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: That's John Makovic's character. What's his name? I forget his 718 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: famous line is, pays the man his money. 719 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: And I think we have that drop somewhere. 720 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: Pays the man his money, paid that men his money. There, 721 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: you go, paid that then his money. It'd be like, hey, no, 722 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: you want to fire me, It's all good, Hey coach, 723 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: you want to like, well, you know, well, listen, you 724 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: don't want to argue a haggle over this thing. You 725 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: don't get a lawyer and lose a percentage over it. 726 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: Like how about you just give me? He's like, no, no, no, Bays. 727 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: A man is money, basement is. 728 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 3: Money, and that's game time. 729 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 5: That's game This is game time on The Dug Gottlieb Show. 730 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 731 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I got I got a great back and forth to 732 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: tell you about uh my son and some friends with 733 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: betting on the Steelers game last night. Plus we got 734 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: love and hate from the weekend. What'd you love from 735 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: the weekend? What'd you hate for the weekend? Shure our 736 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: thoughts next on The Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.