1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL Podcast. Yes queens, is that right? Yes? Yeahs. 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in a room filled with some different 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: heroes today, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Steve Wie in 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the house and the house in the house. Can I 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: collect Bogart the centro real quick? Do? Please? Please? Dan 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: hands us by the way, Uh that if you listen 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: to the last show at Lego Land. Uh. Congrats to 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Jack for pooping and toilet so many times to earn 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: that trip. That is big. Look, I have to hijack 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: this because my man, Chris, you're just tied the knot 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: to a wonderful woman. I saw the pictures. It looked lovely, 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: so you know, you know, I mean, I'm a wine guy. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: So I went digging through the racks with my brother. 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, real time, real time. So heisha enjoy that's 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: a nice ball of napacab from Stag's leap lotting on. 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: So enjoy that. I know you're an aphile, so this 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: is thank you. Absolutely enjoy that he comes with bearing gifts. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: We've been right, Well, maybe he'll share some with you. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Just absolutely I would say, if I like, top hundred 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: people in the world to select a bottle of wine 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: for me. In the last couple of years, I've learned 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: that you would shoot to the very very top of 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: that list. I'd probably how many people do you really 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: know that? Yeah? I mean, man, probably really like a 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: ten or twelve person list. He's the only one I 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say top hundred people just in general, 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: which I mean, that's that that's damning with fan praise 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: in my mind, because who does at this company. There's 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot of vipers, there's a lot of um, there's 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: a lot of angling. Actually, I would say the people 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: all get along really well for the most part, for 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: the most part, but everyone's got issues that things happen 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: with different people around the company. But who have you 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: ever found at this company that's ever said a bad 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: word about Steve Weish? Yeah, doesn't happen. Keep looking, Keep looking? Yeah, 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, thank thank you're you're in my face. 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, as soon as his cameras go off, 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, you guys are gonna be crapping all of them. Well, 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: maybe you're just very skilled about destroying people in the shadows. 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: We just don't know about it. We we presume you 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: to be a class I've I've got I've got my 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I live my life like the like 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the lion is. You know. I I don't trample through 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the weeds. I kind of tiptoe through them. But when 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: it's time to attack, it's a rap. I love. I've 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: seen the way you and your wife, the how you 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: operate your stealth. But no one's having a better time 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: there you go words to um. So today's I don't 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: know if it's a big show. It's just the show. 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: The rest of the company's off right now. Uh. It's 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: apparently an NFL holiday because they've gotta make up some 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: days for missing Thanksgiving, another Christmas and all that stuff 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: that we don't get. So they got a nice four 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: day week and it's quiet downstairs. But we're in here, 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna set you up right for a 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: big three day weekend. We'll be back Tuesday, do some news. 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: We'll do a Mark Sessler guided meditation. Oh I'm excited 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: about that. Have we done that before? I don't believed one. 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: I think we'd remember that. We're gonna we're gonna talk 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: about some sneaky Um Stars of two thousand nineteen. Who 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: are some people under the radar who can make a 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: little impact? And then uh, and then my thing I'm 64 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: looking for to most the final five minutes of the show, 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: We're just gonna take a trip down to Weis's world. 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: It's relaxing, but it's professional and we're just gonna ask 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: five bad set up man, this is you guys are 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: totally ringing me in right now. No, this is gonna 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: go great. Honest, we had it. We don't know how. 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm more looking forward to this. This is like Minnesota 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Fats type set up. Well, you don't have to you 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: just sit back and field a variety of intriguing questions 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: in your personal inquiries. They maybe a little off the wall. 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Am I gonna need a blind bowl in the cigarette 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: you guys, it's up to you. It's your world, iring 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: squad um. So I just want to get to it, 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: get this weekend started, finish this show out. And to 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: do that, let's go to Erica tam Possey, who really 79 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: pushed hard for us to do this show on Thursday. Sorry, 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: we're in on Friday. Let's do some news cool. Well, 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: I just said he want me in the scroup club. 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't think that were going 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: to the script club. It ain't no saying to go 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: to the script club. You know, I was just being rebellion. 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: It's a bad decision. It was the one of the 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: dumb decision I even made. Who's been tapping my phone? 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: That was pack Mean Jones in a classic SoundBite from 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: the late two thousands when he was the poster boy 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: of kind of getting in trouble with the NFL suspensions. 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: And that's why he is. He is the example that 91 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: was given as to why personal conduct policy needed to 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: be update and upgraded. And a legacy. Yeah, he has 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: a pretty big legacy considering, you know, not a ton 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowl and then it making it rain. I 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: don't know if he invented it, he brought it maybe 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of you know, white foe watching the 97 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: NFL that didn't had never really heard about it. In 98 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, we'll get to his retirement, uh 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: in just a bit, but let's start the news with 100 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Nick Bosa is out until training camp. Uh. 101 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: They also lose Jimmy Ward for two to three months 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: with a broken collar bone. Not a ton of huge 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: news uh over the last few days. But the forty 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Niners who have had bad injury luck, seemed like they 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: still have some bad injury luck. What do we think 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: this matter? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, look, Nick Bosa, this 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: guy's had injury history. You know, he hasn't played in 108 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: play last season at Ohio State because he had that 109 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: growing injury gets a handy pool this early on. Those 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: are lingering injuries. You know, it's not like he's a 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: small guy. He is a big dude, okay, And these 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: are things they're counting on him. I've spoken to some 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: coaches up there. They they're like, if you got him 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: on one side and then run situations, you could put 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead or Sama Thomas on the other. In a 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: passing situation, put in d Ford and game with you know, 117 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the forest buck and all this. You know, Bosa is 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the anchor. It's gonna allow them to do a lot 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: of things. And if he's in and out of the lineup, 120 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue. And you remember the 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: forty Niners, they got rid of their whole like strength 122 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and conditioning staff because they kept on having injuries. I 123 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: don't remember that you're on top of things like that, Yeah, 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: they're not there and they and they had some really 125 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: good people up there, so you know, the boshit thing 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: or something to watch it. And then Jimmy Ward, I mean, 127 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: he's a guy every year you hear about the talent, 128 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: the talent, the talent, but you haven't seen the production. Guys, 129 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: this is Eric Berry written all over to me. Yeah, 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think now they really need to start 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: to inquire. And we know he's got some injury as well, 132 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: but if they can get him on a on a 133 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: on a decent type deal, that this is where I 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: really start getting interested in him. If you're a forty 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Niners fan, I want to talk yourself into this injury 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: not mattering at all. The Bosta injury. His brother, who 137 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: was a similar prospect, didn't practice until September and then 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Rex shop his entire rookie But hamstrings always and he's 139 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a guy who has had injuries. Hamstrings worrying me for 140 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: rookies more than anything because they always seem like, uh, 141 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: you know, and uh. Odell Beckham ended up having a 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: good rookie year, but it took him six seven weeks 143 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: to sort of get get on the field. Different. It's 144 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: funny because Jeff Fisher, who is quite a good Twitter 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: follower despite not being entertaining as a coach for much 146 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: of my experience with him, he he came out and 147 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: basically said, O T A s are problematic because you 148 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: really can't teach young players and nearly as much as 149 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you'd want to. And the fan in me, I look 150 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: at O T s in training camp and it's just 151 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: this awful scale where nothing great is going to happen 152 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: that I'm that's going to affect my life. No real 153 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: winds are gonna come of it, but epic disaster can 154 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: occur when this this roster looks really good on paper, 155 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: or there's young stars, young stars to be on the 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Niners roster, it only matters that they're available, and you 157 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: already have two of them that aren't. Yeah, it's it's 158 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. Actually, we've got some breaking news. 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Um this has been Area tam Posey on Slack. I 160 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: never knew how buff Weiss was until the T shirt games. 161 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: The suit covers it normally, so I just wanted to 162 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: get that out there. Yeah, man, Steve is definitely right now. 163 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm not breaking anywhere. I think you're the elder statesman 164 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: in this room quite and yet you've definitely got the 165 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: best bodies. I am much closer to the COMBA. Well 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: appreciate that, but I'm much much closer to the grave 167 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: than a legal drinking age. And so you know, I've 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: got to do what I can to keeps to stay around. Man. 169 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I like being around you. Guys. Does Andrew Siciliano's you 170 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: know up fluctuating guns? Do they put some pressure on you? 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Which is drawn air with side by side? Andrew does 172 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: great with what he's got, but he's not in I just, 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've been lifting since I was in high 174 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: school and running, and I just I just can't get up. 175 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: You're a big high school start right, little quarterback? What 176 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: did he play? Quarterback? Wanting back outside linebacker? Spent all 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: of the time sitting the bench University of Missouri. I mean, 178 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: the guy who should be here is Dan. Dan is 179 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: a male body that's admirer and he's missing what I 180 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: think is some of the better goods we've had in 181 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: the studio. That guy who's next, that guy who has 182 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: not known necessarily for his body, more of his mind 183 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and his is Adam Gaze back in the news UH 184 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: this week. I just wanted to bring this up. I 185 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: know we've talked a lot of Jets this offseason, but 186 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: it was just so awkward to watch Adam Gaze answer 187 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: questions about Levy on Bell and c J. Mosley this 188 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: week and insist UH that he was on board with 189 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: their signing with the players, especially Mosley having to awkwardly 190 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: say sort of, it doesn't matter. He he knows what 191 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: the truth is. He's like, it doesn't matter whether he 192 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: wanted me here or not, or what the deal was, Like, 193 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm here answering those questions about your head coach is 194 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: very straight. And then the thing that really bothered me 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: was Adam Gaze saying he insisted he was on the 196 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: same page with Mike mcagnan and had nothing to do 197 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: with mcagnan's outstare what are we what are we feeling 198 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: mark about this Jets regime and may making so many headlines. 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I feel like we're in a 200 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: postmodern world with press conferences where it's too easy for 201 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: us to sit here and say, how dumb do you 202 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: think we all are? After all the stuff that's come 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: down that you're trying to sell us this bill of goods, 204 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, if this were happening, He's mastered the 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: messy entrance. Can you imagine if two weeks into Odell 206 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Beckham signing with the Browns, you have Freddie Kitchens same 207 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He didn't really want Odell Beckham, and 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham had to answer, it's just as awkward to 209 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: have the players after they've made this massive life choice, 210 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: which involves a lot more than just the player. It's 211 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: moving your families, it's shifting locations. You're looking ahead the 212 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: next four or five years, and this is the first 213 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: thing that when you walk through the door you're met 214 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: with awkward, highly awkward. Well, we always hear from owners 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: and gms when they're hiring coaches, we want a leader 216 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: of men. And how do you lead these men when 217 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: you're constantly leaking to reporters statements that aren't flattering to 218 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: these men And wherever Adam Gays goes leak, stories follow 219 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: or if they're not really buying what he's saying, which 220 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: is like he told he said, he told them, don't 221 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: listen to what's in the media. But players are smart, 222 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, if they can figure things out, And so 223 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: there's some that I don't know if that message is 224 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: going to get through me. He con says. They don't 225 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: list it what's going on in the meeting, but as 226 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: you said, they know what time it is. And look, 227 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give Gaze a little break here 228 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: just because the Jets have been the Jets for a 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: long time for a certain reason. And that's because the people, yeah, 230 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: I dropped, like, they don't do this that total access. 231 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't thrown off at all. It's just he started dancing. 232 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: They're just such a a mess for so long. And 233 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: so you know, Gaze the stuff you heard that he 234 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: in and some of these guys are reporting that he 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to sign them for this money. He likes 236 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: the players, just not for that money. One. To me, 237 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: that's that's a little bit too micromanaging. Like if you're 238 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: the coach al with that, Okay, don't worry about that. 239 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Coach the guys who your GM gets you if you're 240 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: on the same page, correct, But the fact you know, 241 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: where's christ Johnson and all of this, I mean, it's 242 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, you you've you've can't let your coach go 243 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: out there and take the shrapnel that he took on 244 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: some of the stuff in the c J. Mosley. His 245 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: answer was like, yeah, it's all cool, I'm here. His 246 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: answer was the checks to basically still gonna cash anyway. 247 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: So whether they want me or not, I'm gonna come 248 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: out here and I got paid. It's a little late 249 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: for all of this, but um, the one thing I 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: will give Gauge credit for us if they win ball games, 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: and I think this is the most competitive roster the 252 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: Jets have had. It could be good. Yeah, it's not 253 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna win. They're not gonna win that division. He does 254 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: strike you as like and if singular thinking alpha male. 255 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: So maybe it all works and suddenly we're like this guy, 256 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: But is the new thing that you're looking for or 257 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: it goes completely. So I think this is the benefit 258 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: of separating the GM and the coach, because the GM 259 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: sometimes can be the bad guy and instead of the coach, 260 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and now it's like the message gets weird that the 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: coach is the one and now he's the acting GM, 262 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's another It's also a reason why I like 263 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. You know, you can get on him for this, 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: but I think this specific type of example is why 265 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: he is so laser focused on eliminating leaks and people 266 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: talking to the media is like exactly this type of 267 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: still And also if you're Sean Peyton Bill Belichick, who 268 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: have the basically personnel, say they're the GM, they're ultimately 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: it's fine because they've got skins on the wall. The Jets. 270 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: The Jets have been a laughing stock of the NFL 271 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: for years because of stuff like this. Not many coaches 272 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: were less popular than Bill Belichick going into the twenty 273 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: two thousand one season, and that was partly because he 274 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: was in charge of everything and he was annoying the reporters. 275 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: Everyone hated him, and they were a bad team, right 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: and they hadn't been good for for a long time, 277 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: which is also true of the Washington Redskins. Just been 278 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: in the mix. But I want, I mean been in 279 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the middle, the middle of the pack, and that's because 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: of their quarterback situation and they're in a tough one now. 281 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I wanted to bring this up. 282 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Maybe this is not even worth talking about. You guys 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: can tell me and we'll move along quickly. But I 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: found it interesting that Alex Smith was just there at 285 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: O T A S this week kind of throwing asses 286 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: and T shirts and like smiling and just reminded of 287 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: he was like, oh yeah, Alex Smith, remember that guy 288 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: that is guaranteed twenty plus million dollars over the next 289 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: two years. You're like, he's an actual person and he's 290 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: out there, and it's this this strange situation where Keenam's 291 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: going for the starting job, Haskins is going for the 292 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: starting job, Colt McCoy is somewhere, and then there's there's 293 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: this Alex Smith thing hanging over and no one really 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: knows if his career is over, if his seasons even over, 295 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: and just there he is smiling. But I was happy 296 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: to see him because everyone agrees. I think, like a 297 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: great guy who's had a pretty tough six months here. Yeah. 298 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I took out of it. I mean, 299 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, lookay, Alex, he's he's not he's not dead. 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's not in traction. He's out here. He's 301 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: trying to be one of the guys because he is 302 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: just an awesome human being. He's just an awesome guy. 303 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: And I think just to see him out there is like, okay, cool, 304 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's take the conversation at least, you know, 305 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: until Greg Rosenhal gets behind the microphone and tries to 306 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: land based everything here, what are you talking about? That 307 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: was good? I mean, I mean just but it was 308 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: just like a reminder that like, oh, this is just 309 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: a thing that's he won't make it awkward, but it's 310 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: just kind of a straight there's It's almost unprecedented. I 311 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: can't think of another example in recent football history that's 312 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: like what's going on. I'll not forget that Super Bowl week, 313 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: the Niners raven super week where obviously Alex Smith was 314 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: a massive subplot because he had been replaced despite being 315 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: incredibly effective, and he stood up to every question and 316 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: couldn't have been to your point, I made a huge 317 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: impression on me as the way the person he was, 318 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised he's there. But also, let's say 319 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: he even shifted into the role of, you know, low 320 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: level position coach. He's making twenty million dollars to be 321 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a low level position coach, so I think it would 322 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: be smart to show up to work if my employer 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: were paying me twenty million dollars. Oh, he's not the 324 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: first player from that organization to be paid handsomely and that. 325 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. Dan Sanders always talks about the the Dan 326 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Snyder wing on his house. A lot of players who 327 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: loved Dan Snyder. Alex Smit the number one pick in 328 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: the twenty two thousand five draft. It was a rough 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: top ten that year because if you go back and 330 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: look at it, the two best players by far, maybe 331 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: not by far. Intro role was in there. Kind of 332 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: forgot about him. Alex Smith intro role was ten, solid, solid, 333 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: good career pac Man Jones number six and he retired. 334 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: We talked about him quickly at the top, but I 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: wanted to bring him up because he's had a really 336 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: interesting career. And if you had if you had asked 337 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, after the basically had been 338 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: suspended for two of his first three years in the NFL, 339 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: you would have never guessed that he would have outlasted 340 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: almost that entire draft class. And here he is retiring 341 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: in Chris Wesleyan as the resident Bengals ambivalent guy. What's 342 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: your well? I sort of have the recollection of him 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: with the Titans early in his career, when he was 344 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: so incredibly dynamic on punt returns and even as a 345 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: ball hawk in that secondary and then that's after those 346 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: two year they had Vince Young and seemed like the 347 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: world was their oyster. The Titans were this young, up 348 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: and coming team and it never happened because of off 349 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: the field issues for both of those guys. But when 350 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I think of the Bengals years, I think of just 351 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: about every offseason, friends of mine would text me and say, Hey, 352 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: this isn't made the new news yet, but pac Man 353 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: got thrown out of a bar for fighting. He yeah, 354 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: he was a and All Pro as a return guy, 355 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: had a really good run as a slot guy in Cincinnati. 356 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you brought up the Titans because that 357 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh six team was sneaky, one of my favorite teams 358 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: of that decade. I'm telling you when Vince it was 359 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: his rookie year and it was essentially packed me and 360 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Jones rookie year because he was suspended in his actual 361 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: rookie year when those teams when that team when he 362 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: when Vince Young took over for Carry Collins and he 363 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: had I think five fourth quarter comebacks that year and 364 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Pacman Jones was returning interceptions and he was returning punts 365 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: and then I remember a great comeback against the Giants especially, 366 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: but there were a lot of them. Like that team 367 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: was about as fun to watch as any They didn't 368 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: quite finish the deal at the end of the season. 369 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: They ended up not even making the playoffs, but when 370 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Vince Young came in, it was a sensation if you 371 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: were not there for that, Like, they were just a 372 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: sensational kind of dominating the NFL news cycle for about 373 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: two months, and it was a lot of fun. I was. 374 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: I covered a lot of those games. That's when still 375 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: based in Atlanta, And I mean they had this great 376 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: offensive line with Kevin Mawai who's going to the Hall 377 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: of Fame, Michael Russ a left tackle, and I mean 378 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: they pounded you on both sides of the ball. They 379 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: had Albert Haines was playing spectacular football, Keith Bullock um 380 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: I think. And they weren't good running quarterbacks then too. 381 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: That was part of the excitement was they were a 382 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: little different. It was it was such a change from 383 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: everything that they were doing. And you know, Mike Heimerdinger, 384 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: for as much as you want to say about Jeff 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: Fisher is not having a good offensive coordinat Beer, heimerding 386 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: Or was the OC for the Titans. So they were 387 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: still really creative. They found ways Um to do things. 388 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know Pack, I love the I mean he's 389 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: he's the amount of backed. It's crazy. There's for as 390 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: much troubles Pack got in for fighting and things like that, 391 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: he usually wasn't the instigator. You know, we saw the 392 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: video on the in an airport where somebody was talking 393 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: to him and coaches. Yeah, I mean his coaches loved 394 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: him Marvel because he was a dog. He was a dog. 395 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: He ended up being a leader in the locker room 396 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: that also had leaders like Vontes Perfect So I don't 397 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: know how far that goes, Um, but he was a 398 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: very very good player. He talked to widers here was 399 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: played against him. They have a lot of respect for Pack. 400 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: The punt return game never never fair cut the ball. 401 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: He would always catch it no matter who was That 402 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: was a stat until fifteen or sixty he never had 403 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: And I wanted to just give him his thin because 404 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned how he changed the personal conduct possily. It's 405 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: hard to imagine this, but there was an off season 406 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: or two where Pat and Jones really was the dominant 407 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: offseason storyline. He was the biggest story, and it was 408 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: so it was almost an innocent time looking back, because 409 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: it was before the flake gay and spy gay and 410 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: bounty gay and all the domestic violent stuff and Kaepernick 411 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: and so, and actually pack Me and Jones was the 412 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: biggest like sort of oh that's the problem in the NFL. 413 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Was pack Me and Jones for for like an off 414 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: season during four starts, hundred and four fights. I think 415 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: the parallel sort of aspect to that is what I'll remember, 416 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: you know what. And he probably had about a hundred 417 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: four dubs. I don't think he had too many else 418 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: with those fights. Um, but you wouldn't keep getting in 419 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: them unless you didn't like your chances. Guy always I 420 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: always appreciate it because he was just a little different. Um, 421 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: but was not a guy that was gonna win a 422 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year award like Chris Long did, 423 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: who we talked about his retirement, but I'm bringing him 424 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: back up. What a transition spectacloth. Greg was home last 425 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: night in bed, like just thinking about a shift from 426 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: one story to the next. He's like, Oh, that's gonna work. 427 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I wish I prepared like that. Um, he's back in 428 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the news because he was. He had some tweets this 429 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: week which had got caught a lot of notice about 430 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: and he was on Dan Patrick kind of started out 431 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: that talking about how he smoked read weed regularly as 432 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: a pro, which that's not news obviously, but he did 433 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: point out kind of the specifics of why the NFL 434 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: drug policy, uh, in his mind is almost cosmetic, uh 435 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: and easy to be because basically they know they're only 436 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna get tested if you're not in the program. You 437 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: only get tested once a year, and it's usually between 438 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: like a one month one to two month window people 439 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: in early August. Yeah, that's what he said. So it's 440 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: in specific times now, and it caught a lot of 441 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: it caught a lot of fire, and I think interesting 442 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: conversation about that. And I hadn't. I hadn't. I knew that, 443 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: but I didn't know the total specifics of of how 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: easy I guess it is to beat that policy, which 445 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: is why when someone gets busted and you have to 446 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: feel multiple times, you know, when it comes to uh, 447 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: to weed, to to get in trouble, to get suspended. 448 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: But this is why you don't hear much about guys. 449 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, you don't hear of the players. You hear 450 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: maybe three or four who you know, the drug issue, 451 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: and maybe because they've they've got bigger problems. But I 452 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: think Chris brings up a big point because you remember 453 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: his when he came out into this about Dan Patrick 454 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show. It was right along the 455 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: lines of the NFL and the NFL p A are 456 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: considering a new weed policy or things to help manage 457 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: pain and things like this. So I think it all 458 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: fit in there. I think that's where things are headed. 459 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: I think it's trending is to where we will not 460 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: be considered illegal. Now maybe get in trouble if you 461 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: get arrested for it in the states that where where 462 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: we just still illegal, but maybe they wanted tested. I mean, 463 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: we live in a state where it's you know, fully 464 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: illegal obviously, right, and more and more states are are 465 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: training in that direction. Um, I mean house like the 466 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: Housewives in Los Angeles are probably would be would test 467 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: positive between April and August, but doesn't have to be 468 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: able wives. But I'm just saying because I would impeg 469 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: them as that. But like if you you play the 470 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: sport that inflicts the most pain, but you're tacked under 471 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: a sports governing body, stuck in the dark, anges in 472 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: the air, Yes, I was walking in preschool this morning 473 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: and you can to smell it in the era eight 474 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Lovely thing. Yeah, I mean, the 475 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: great thing for a preschool. But to go to a Ralphs, 476 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: go to a ralpse and there everybody's like, you know, puffins. 477 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: So let's figure out a chief what munchies can we 478 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: get to We hit the oreoile first. Do you think 479 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: of that that they're this is a step to getting 480 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: rid of I think it's a step. And you know, 481 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about the dates the April to August, 482 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: the off season, that's that's usually okay, So they're not 483 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: around us a lot, so that's probably they're puffing. You know, 484 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: these guys. Soon the test is over those who smoke. Again, 485 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: it does help them to have a Chris Loan because 486 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: we the specific late April to early August to come 487 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and point out how archaic and dumb and sort of 488 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: false the whole thing is. And once again we learned 489 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: from it, and that you then you have to change 490 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: rules when you'll get down one. So once you get 491 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: it out of the way, you're free sale. And I 492 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: think that does show the NFL is ultimately not sweating 493 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: the details of people smoke it to mends. You go 494 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: back to the Chris Long point. This was last year's 495 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Walter Peyton Man of the Year. This isn't just a guy. 496 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's building clean water wells over 497 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: in Africa and standing with a lot of African American 498 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: players and the player's coalition. A good legislation changed and 499 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: paying giving up a year's salary so kids, you know 500 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: in charlotte Ville, Virginia can have funding for academics. Basically, 501 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I can do all these wonderful things. I can make 502 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: big plays in the super Bowl, and when it's all done, 503 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I can go home, take a couple of puffs, they 504 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: have a good night's sleep. Maybe we can get David 505 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: Irvan back in the league once they shift all this, 506 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: when they changed this role. This will give me the 507 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: chance to implement my new app, which is what weened 508 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: W E and d Nobody at home take this idea 509 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: because I've been through a lot of pain in the 510 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: last few years, and karma will be a bit we 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: ween you off of pain killers through the use of 512 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: E N D ween. I mean, I'm not sure what 513 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the app is doing, but I like that. Greg. It's 514 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: all about apps. Just leave it alone. I like it. Finally, 515 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: in the news, Cleveland and Kansas City were named the 516 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: So the NFL Draft, we never talked about that. One 517 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: for Cleveland, three for Kansas City. What do we think 518 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: West are we trying to get to Cleveland? I think 519 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: we should try to get to Cleveland. We never go 520 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: to the draft. Oh, I was just about to say, 521 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: I'm much rather go to Kansas City for that barbecue. 522 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: Either way, this is where I love clean I'm up 523 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: there a lot because of the Browns whatnot. That is 524 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated restaurant cities. And the card 525 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you are a fantastic restaurants in Cleveland. You got Canton 526 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: up the road. I think it's great. I like the 527 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: fact that the Draft is being held war war in 528 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: cities that likely won't host Super Bowls. I like we 529 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: have become a thing that, like, you know, twelve teams, 530 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a blank spot sandwiched in between 531 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: there though I know two well, they said they're not 532 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: trying to do it for teams that have Super Bowls, 533 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: but maybe they maybe they would. I had some London 534 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: listeners one like wondering would they ever bring it to London, 535 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, that actually looks 536 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: good because because he and said big city, so Cleveland 537 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: and Kansas City not in the top you know fifteen 538 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: markets TV wise, they wanted to bring it to a 539 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: big city for that year, and I was like, you know, 540 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: London that would like the draft would be a nice 541 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: little test for the Super Bowl. Be had a weird 542 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: time in London. Perhaps it is that a World Cup 543 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: year as well, you know where you can kind of combine. Oh, 544 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: just stay there for the entire spring. I'm with you. 545 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: I well, like the one thing that I find when 546 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: they suddenly you find we live in l A. You 547 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: find out the Super Bowls in l A. Obviously with 548 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: the new stadium, they're gonna put the draft there. I 549 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: in the person that is annoyed by what should be 550 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: a traveling road trip. Suddenly I don't go anywhere. I 551 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: have to just dry basically take a train or a 552 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: bus to get there or an uber. I don't like 553 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: that at all. And secondly, I'm different and I like 554 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: the idea of sleeping in my bed there. Well that's fine, 555 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: that's the other three forty nights a year, though, please. 556 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: But they were talking about moving the Combine potentially after 557 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: don't mess with me on that one. I don't want. 558 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I like Indianapolis with the Combine, every perfect little fit. 559 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: Actually I'm I'm the opposite. I've of course you are. 560 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: I like what I'm just saying. I like the Indianapolis. 561 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: I like Indianapolis. I think it's a great setup. But 562 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: after fifteen of them or so, it's like done enough. 563 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: You can't be replaced. Be careful. I'm just saying. If 564 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I let's go to another city, just be careful what 565 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: you wished for though, because if it's anything other than 566 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: a warm weather city, indian has that that tunnel system 567 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: which you don't need to go outside other than the 568 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: cross one little street. I'm wanting to take a chance. Yeah, 569 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: they're moving. I think it's coming. I don't need another 570 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't need another year of people trying to convince 571 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: you say al Mos is some you know, great, thank you, 572 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: thank you. Last time, when we were at the Combine, 573 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: I was hearing rumors of people saying that they want 574 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: to try Dallas, but the Dallas Stadium is thirty minutes outside. 575 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Wouldn't be there that whole Dallas and maybe the worst 576 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl week. I've been told it would be. I 577 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: don't know, especially if your tickets suddenly didn't exist with 578 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: the seat you. Hope you're all right. That is it 579 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: for the news, and uh, what's next. Let's get to 580 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: a little I there's a lot of stress in that news. 581 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Let's relax with a little guided meditation re Marxist, a 582 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: guided meditation. Wherever you are, whatever you are doing, please 583 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: put down your activities and close your eyes and keep 584 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: them closed. Wave goodbye to your stresses, the hassle of 585 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: daily life. Truly be in the moment. Listen to the 586 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: sounds around you, the beauty of our world all around you. 587 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Now I want you to envision right in front of 588 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: you a figure, a masculine figure. Who is it. Oh, 589 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: it's Dan Hands is our host, right there in front 590 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: of you, looking right into your eyes. And not just 591 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: any Dan Hans is, but Dan Hands is dressed as 592 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: a fireman, a very manly, vic heroic fireman. Because you 593 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: now realize that all around you is a big burning building, 594 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: walls collapsing, people screaming. Death is near, but not for you. 595 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Dan Hands is the fireman. She's here to save you. 596 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: He pulls you into his arms and carries you through 597 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the burning and burst out of the white hot chaos, 598 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: beyond the noise, out to quiet grasses. He lays you 599 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: down safely in the grass and tells you I'll be back. 600 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: I need to save the others. And you feel cared 601 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: for and safe and content inside because of Dan the Fireman. Now, 602 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: slowly open your eyes and return to our world. And 603 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: please check the see if anyone's stolen your wallet or 604 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: your purse if you are a girl. The end, it 605 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: feels like some kind of indoctrination. Oh my god, I 606 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching the episode of This is Us. 607 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: I do feel more relaxed. I've seen that. I do 608 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: feel more relaxed. Good. That was the goal and the 609 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: song and but and the exciting journey into Mark's subconscious 610 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, I let you know. I imagine this comes 611 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: about because Mark's lying in bed and he's having this 612 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: beautiful vision and that's really well, was a sign of 613 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: how close Mark and Dan are. It's it's a window 614 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: into their And didn't you get like the calendar, the 615 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: fund raising fireman calendar, Dan hand just I mean that 616 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: type of sure, right? I think Mark planted a seed 617 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: in my mind that I am now always going to 618 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: think of Dan as more manly than I did before. 619 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: That was the goal. So I'm glad that, you know, hit, 620 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad why she's just just rolls there, 621 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: not gonna throw this on the all the aftermath. Sorry, sorry, Rhett, 622 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: you know it's not doing any guided meditations. Let's get 623 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: back to um little football talk before we finish off 624 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: the show with five minutes in Weisch's world. And uh, 625 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: this football talk is pretty open ended. Uh it's about 626 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: the sneaky potential stars of and uh I got the idea. Actually, 627 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, just I wrote an article this week. It's 628 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: a little different, Actually it was. It's it's an article 629 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: about the homegrown players on on any a f C 630 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: or NFC team. I think I was feeling refreshed after 631 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: that Tybee visit. It just makes everyone happy and feeling 632 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: basically just like different players that I wanted a preview 633 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: and talk about going in the season. But for this 634 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: specific exercise, let's talk about some guys we actually think 635 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: can make an impact and we think is ultimately I 636 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: think we think it's gonna be good. That they're a 637 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: little under the radar, but that they're in a position 638 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: where they're gonna be very important to their team. In 639 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: why don't we start with Mark Sessler. I look at 640 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: a team that has a pretty stacked backfield, but I 641 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: think it's second rounder Miles Sanders for the Eagles that 642 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: has a chance to be I think it's gonna be 643 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: a hot hand back field because you want if you 644 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: find you have a runner who can get into the 645 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: flow and make a big impact. I don't think you 646 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: draft him in the second round unless you identify the 647 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: fact we don't have our guy that can do everything 648 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: we want, and that's not Jordan Howard. To me, they 649 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: gave Josh Adams that chance last year. You still have 650 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Corey Clement, and I think Miles Sanders is gonna at 651 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: least be given a chance in a offense that's still 652 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz operating at full power can kill you 653 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: through the through the air as well. It's a great situation. 654 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: You saw what was happening pre injury with that ground 655 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: attack when they had a stable of backs, how they 656 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: pounded teams down the stretch, and I thought that was 657 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting offenses to watch because they 658 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: could kill you in so many different ways and they 659 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: still can. And so I'm picking Miles Sanders is someone 660 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: that And I also think the running back position in general, 661 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: by week eight, you could be a rookie and be 662 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: a foundational star in your offense. I like, I like that. 663 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's like I like a sneaky name. Like 664 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: you hear Miles Sanders and you're like, oh, that's probably 665 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: not gonna be one of the best running backs in 666 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: the league. Barry's cousin, by the way, really see, we 667 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: don't know Eno, Like I don't know enough about him. 668 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: We do not know enough. Right, They're loaded, like where 669 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: it's a great spot to be for a running back. 670 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: The offensive line is great. They love Dallas Goddard. They 671 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: probably have the best tight end combination in the league. 672 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: You've got Wentz finally with like a full healthy off season, 673 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: as the man got to Seawan Jackson poll. The receivers 674 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: down are DB's downfield. So yeah, I like, you don't 675 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: want the guys like Jordan Howard or Corey kind of 676 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: tip like, Okay, they're good on passing downs. Are the 677 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: good running down that? Why do the Chiefs like O 678 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Howard? I think for that, you know, excuse me 679 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: the Bears from a Chief's offense. That was where my 680 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: mind was West, What's up? So I looked at this 681 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: A is like young homegrown players who showed special traits 682 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: or flashes of dominance down the stretch, but people don't 683 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: really know about them. Yeah, this I thought. From Thanksgiving 684 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: to the end of the season, there was only I 685 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: think Jamal Adams is the only safety better in the 686 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: league than Bomb Bell of the Saints. What a great call. Nice, 687 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: he was spectacular. Everybody talked about their front seven when 688 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: they started shutting people down the end of the year. 689 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: They were one of the best defenses in the league. Word, 690 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: and I thought Von Bell was incredible. To me, he's 691 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: a pro bowler this year. Yeah. With Eli Apple coming 692 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: to kind of still litified things at that other corner. 693 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting that comes from the game pass 694 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: tape watching. Yeah, that there. It's so weird that their 695 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: defense now looks pretty bulletproof on paper. I mean things 696 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: things always changed, especially on defensive, but the secondary, especially 697 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: if you have Von Bell, Marcus Williams pretty good. He 698 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: had a good Marshawn Latimer is coming off and down here, 699 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: but he's shown enough that you obviously like him a lot. 700 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Eli Apple was good for them. They should get Patrick Robinson, 701 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: but it's like a lot. Uh, that's a lot of juice. 702 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Like one guy I thought about for this exercise was 703 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: just Marcus Davenport. Not that he's like a secret, but 704 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: to me, he could be the difference between them being 705 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: a really good defense and just great if he's just 706 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: like this absolute force. But Bell has already shown it. 707 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: I love that's a good pick because he's been around 708 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: for a few years. Like sometimes guys developed late, and 709 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: he was a twenty sixteen second rounder. I think this 710 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: is his fourth year in the league. But you're right, 711 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: he came on like Gangbusters and defense has most underrated 712 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL, And to Mario Davis, he was 713 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: It looked like a top five defense on paper, which 714 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: is sneaky Dennis Allen in its own right. Okay, so 715 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm going this way. Okay, we're talking about all the 716 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: losses that the Ravens have had on their defense. You know, 717 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: there's a reason why they gave up to outside linebackers 718 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: since serious smith A Terrell sucks. They think Matt Judon 719 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: is a guy who's going to be an impactful player 720 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: looking he had fifteen sacks over the past two years 721 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: in a rotational role. He's entering i believe his fourth 722 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: or fifth season. Um it was a small college player 723 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: who kind of grew physical and everything, and I think 724 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: he's somebody he's gonna get the opportunity now. They're they're 725 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: speaking well of and weak Martin Neal. They're d C 726 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: does a lot of really interesting things, reducing guys inside, 727 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: moving him outside. But I think him as an outside 728 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: linebacker pass rusher has to do all of the things. 729 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean the after outside linebackers do a lot. I 730 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: think Matt Judon is a player who we're not talking 731 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: about now so much because he can have a lot 732 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: on him who by the end of the season was 733 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: like whoa and like what coaching staff do we trust 734 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: more to develop defensive talent from within? Well, he's one 735 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: of those guys that at this at in February next year, 736 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: like West and I, when we do our free agency list, 737 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: it's like you can just imagine Matt be like Matt 738 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: Judah on coming off a monster year is the ninth 739 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: best player in free agents? Like who the hell is 740 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: talking about Zadarius Smith at this time a year ago, 741 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: no One, and then he got seventeen million dollars a year. 742 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: It's just like a little factory there and they're doing 743 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: They need him without Sucks and Zadarius Smith. It can't 744 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: be seven or eight Sex. It's gotta be twelve or 745 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: thirteen Sex this year. And they need a couple of 746 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: guys to step up, but he's probably the leader. Got 747 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson. They drafted Tim Williams. I'm gonna go. I'm 748 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: gonna go with another defensive player. They signed Shane Ray. 749 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm gonna go with another defensive player that 750 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: came on strong at the end of last year. Tremaine 751 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Edmonds coming going into his second year with the Bills. 752 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: He I just remember him early in the year being like, 753 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: oh man, this guy is not what everyone said he was. 754 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: They made him a middle linebacker. Right off the bat. 755 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: He was struggling. He was giving up big plays, not 756 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: like taking good angles. But quietly at the end of 757 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: the year, especially if you listen to their coaching staff, 758 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: and he was the defensive Rookie of the Month in December, 759 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of all slowed down for him and he's 760 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: playing that Luke Keickley role in Sean McDermott's defense, and 761 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: I remember some of those games in December. He was 762 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: everywhere and they talk about him like like he is 763 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: the leader of this defense for the next decade. They 764 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: do a film study every week where it's just the players, 765 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: and Kyle Williams ran it forever in in December, he 766 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: was just he knew he I guess he knew he was. 767 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: He was retiring. He handed it over to Tremaine Edmonds 768 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: because he said, this dude is our leader. This guy 769 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: does more work than anything. And he was twenty years old. 770 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: That's the other thing that really stands out to me. 771 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: He was the youngest player in league. He ended up 772 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: starting sixteen games. So now you're coming into your second 773 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: year and you have that confidence and you show it 774 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you can kind of 775 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: put it all together where you're just reacting and you 776 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: got Matt Milano next to you, who's kind of his 777 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: Thomas Davis not saying they're gonna be that good, but 778 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: I think if the Bill's defense is gonna be like 779 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: the how John McDermott believes it's gonna be, Edmonds is 780 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of notice and and have a 781 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: big jump in his second I love that. Can you 782 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: talking about Luke Kickly? I mean, what's what do you 783 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: hear mostly about Luke Kikley? He knows the play before 784 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: you're you're asking a rookie to diagnose an awful lot. 785 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: There's no way he can get that earliest calling the plays. Yeah, right, 786 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: the fact he made that progress and the Bills are 787 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna be you know you're talking, we're talking about sneaky players. 788 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: The Bill is gonna be one of those teams. We're 789 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough out this year. We're fans. We 790 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: we we had Sean McDermott on during the COMMA or 791 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: during the owner's meetings, and it's not hard with our 792 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: show when a coach that we like sits down with 793 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: us that for the next two or three years, were 794 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: just like, you could do no wrong. We're totally he's 795 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: such an awesome guy. Yeah, We're like, if we actually 796 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: went out and covered, the team would just be in 797 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: the back. That's why we're gonna stay here and that 798 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: way we can just fired daggers. All right, let's go 799 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: around one more time. I guess all right, so let's 800 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: So when I was when I mentioned Jordan Howard as 801 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: a Chiefs player, what I what I had in my 802 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: head was the fact that the reason the Bears, I thought, 803 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: moved on from him. And I had a couple of 804 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Bears fan friends that you know, they texted like why 805 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: on earth? Like why not just keep him from one 806 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: more year? And I think it's because Matt Nagy knows 807 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: exactly what worked in Kansas City and what he wants 808 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: in his offense that is his own offense, but pulls 809 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: a lot from Kansas City. That's why I think David 810 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Montgomery has a big role there, and they went out 811 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: and made an effort to get him to pair him 812 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: with Tarik Cohen, and I love tree Comb, but you 813 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: can't lean on tree Cone to do everything and David. 814 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: They also have Mike Davis, but Montgomery is a guy 815 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: that caught seventy one passes in college, fifty over the left, 816 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: fifty eight over the last two year's. Niggie's come out 817 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: and called him a three down back. I want to 818 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: use him in every way possible, And to me, that 819 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: just speaks on someone that they we looked at you, 820 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: we know who you are, and you're a fit for us. 821 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: We didn't inherit you. Uh, we trust you to do 822 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: everything and to me, if he does it well, if 823 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: he shows that early on he can handle the capability 824 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: of the playbook and everything else, goodbye, he's gonna be 825 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: a big part of that offense. I thought half the 826 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: Bears roster fits this topic. Guys like Eddie Goldman, Taco 827 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: people don't really know about. Terek Cohen himself is the 828 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: engine that makes this offense go, not Alan Robertson, who's 829 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: getting all the money. And yet you kind of expect 830 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: if I had to guess, that's tough. There's a lot 831 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: of variables. But Montgomery, if he out snapped Coh in 832 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: this year, wouldn't be a surprise. It's gonna be probably depends. 833 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, he's a really small guy. He 834 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: can't carry the ball and you catch a ton of 835 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: passes just because of of his size. And that's why 836 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: this a perfect fit in Montgomery. He's not someone who 837 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna win a foot race, you know, like three Cohen 838 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: in the open field. But man, he is a tough 839 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: player to tackle. Um. He runs very low to the 840 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: ground so he can hide. Um, I'm with you. I 841 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: think the beers. You with this thing right this, this 842 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: topic right here, We're gonna put half their team. He's 843 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: also the official player of Adam Rank. I feel like 844 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: every day Adam Rank has a rule he has to 845 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: send a new Instagram post about David Montgomery. It's quite 846 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: a personal rule to be. I like that. It's a 847 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: personal code. We love Rank, We love Rank. What's up, buddy. 848 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: I have a sneaky defensive star you never hear about, 849 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: but might hold more value to his franchise than anyone 850 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: else on the roster, little guy by the name of 851 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. You can argue that A. J. Green and 852 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: GINO Atkins better relative to their peers, but considering age 853 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: in his premium position, William Jackson thank you as a 854 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: strong case as the most valuable player on the Bengals roster. 855 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk up there about him now 856 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: with some of the shift they're doing. Really, Eric is 857 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: always talking about that. William stopped discussing him because they're 858 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: they're doing this three or four or fourthree flexibility. They 859 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a star up there. Wow, Yeah, 860 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: we're on deep. Yeah, as deep as I dug that wine, 861 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: he was, he was someone he was like a slot 862 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: guy that then they not a slot guy but a 863 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: part time he didn't play every snap two years ago, 864 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: and then he went into last year with a lot 865 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: of like he's an analytics favorite, a lot of hype. 866 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if like he had like a monster 867 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: year a year ago, but you think he's gonna take 868 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: even another step here? I think he's already one of 869 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks, Okay, and they drafted a couple of 870 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: corners that have not really equaled their draft pedigree. So 871 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: this is a nice turn of events. Absolutely, I'm going 872 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: with a big name, a name we've heard former first 873 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: round draft pick, expectations, made big money, hasn't lived up 874 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: to it, but this is gonna be his year in 875 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: that Sammy Watkins. Okay, christ like this because he's a guy. Look, 876 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: last year, they paid him the huge contract, the contract 877 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: that really upset the wide receiver market. I mean, people 878 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are paying him this much money in 879 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: a fourteen million a year only forty catches five nineteen 880 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: yards and the foot injury, didn't play the final five 881 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: or six games, but then those performances in the two 882 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: postseason games, ten catches a hundred sixties hundred six yards 883 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: a TV showed up big. We don't know the Tyree 884 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: Kills situation. We know Pat Mahomes is probably gonna be 885 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: better in his third teason under Andy Reid and Sammy 886 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: Watkins has a lot of proving to do so, even 887 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: though again he's a big name. We know the potential 888 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: is there. He hasn't. We haven't seen it consistently. I 889 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: think this is finally the breakout. The opportunities there. I guess, like, 890 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I gotta see it. I roll there 891 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: it is no, no, no, no, it's not. And he 892 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: would have been a perfect like he is so important. 893 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: I can't like, he's so important to their team. I 894 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: need I need to see it from him. I guess 895 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: we all do. There are a lot of NFL players 896 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: who are great for two or three games a year, 897 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: and he's one of them. He needs to be great 898 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: for eleven or twelve games. It's it's the old basketball analogy. 899 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: I think was Gary Williams, University of Maryland former coach. 900 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: He said, you know, certain players dominate, you know, like 901 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: a minute or two. Yeah, he's never dominated that stretch, 902 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: and that's that's what we need to see him. But 903 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: he's got to be the dude this year. No one's 904 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: talking about him. He's yeah, now, you're right, so and 905 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: I think this is He's got all the physical tools, 906 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: who can keep his feet healthy, but the durability is 907 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: the issue. I'm gonna wrap up with another receiver and uh, 908 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a second year player. Didn't get a lot of 909 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: notice late last year because who really wanted to be 910 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: watching c jave bethor to Nick Mullins. But Dante Pettis 911 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: had some moments as a rookie that were impressive to me. 912 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: He only ended up he had four hundred and sixty 913 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: seven yards and five touchdowns as the rookie, which doesn't 914 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: sound like a lot, but he basically only played eight games. 915 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: There are three or four other games where he essentially 916 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: had no snaps. He basically played half the season put 917 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: up those kind of numbers, and and the way Shanahan 918 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: talks about him, he says he's not a slot guy. 919 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: He's not. Now, it's like you, there's no law in 920 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: the NFL like you don't want guys that are just 921 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: your like X receiver. And maybe that's a little issue 922 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: with Watkins. Is he that versatile. Pettis lines up on 923 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: both outside slots, he lines up in the middle. He 924 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: does a little bit of everything. And when you watch him, 925 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: he just kind of glides like he's a small guy, 926 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: but he just it's like he's so smooth with his routes. 927 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: I always like the guys who are just known for 928 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: the route running, and he was really good at that. 929 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: And when you look at the receiver corps, if they're 930 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna put up numbers, someone's gotta put up some numbers 931 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: in that group. And to me, he's kind of he's 932 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: easily the best bet because he's been there for a year. 933 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: He showed a little something. He does a little bit 934 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: of everything. I asked Josh Norris from the Road to 935 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: World podcast and the Draft guy uh there if he 936 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: had any comparison for him. He he he had an 937 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: interest way. He said, if Michael Thomas was like twenty 938 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: pounds lighter, maybe a little Dante Pettridge I thought was 939 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: an interesting one because he can do a little bit everything. 940 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: He's good at the catchpoint, he's good making plays after 941 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: the catch. He's been a punch like he can do 942 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. That's what I want. But 943 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: Thomas was twenty pounds lighter. Would he be in the NFL. 944 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: He'd bet there's a little more gas too now. But 945 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: he can he can run, he can run away from you. Yeah. Wow, 946 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: I like it. I like the pedesting because again you 947 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: know they've got killed the tight end. But then you'll 948 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: keep asking who's who's who was there? You got a 949 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: couple of rookies there. You got almost feel like we 950 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: should do a speed round with no commentary because I 951 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: know that we all can do it. We can do 952 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: this segment again. I like this is we could come 953 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: back to that. I like it. I'll keep money now. 954 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: It's just like you can talk about anyone in the NFL, 955 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: thirty more guys. Really, Yeah, we can come back to 956 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: this in a few weeks or something. Whatever part of 957 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: you guys were like getting on me on the phone. 958 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: You're like, this looks like a sixty five minute show, 959 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: and as the host, I'm trying to prevent that, trying 960 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: to get us out of here. Yea, And I just 961 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: feel like we're on the doorstep right here of them. 962 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: What's gonna be magic and that's a trip. Let's do 963 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: it into Weiss's world. Um, I'm not gonna even start 964 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: the clock quite yet, but I think we can play 965 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: the music just to get into the mood. Um now, 966 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, Steve's wife is Jamaican, one of the great 967 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: um nfl um employee wives in the game. Maybe maybe 968 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: right there at the top, but he's not an employee 969 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: here and she's from Jamaica. So that's just I don't know. 970 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't you know. That was the closest yet for 971 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: some for some music and because again, um relaxed but professional. 972 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: That's what it's like in Weiss's world. We have five 973 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: minutes to ask Steve whatever questions we've always wanted to 974 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: ask Steve after all the his years in the business. 975 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: And uh, let's start it right now, Mark, let's go, 976 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: who is the last person you spooned with? That would 977 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: be the white Yeah, I mean, what kind of questions 978 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: I'm checking? I think we can we tell we can 979 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: trust you right out of the game. But after after 980 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: your Dan hands this imagery, you know, if I were to, 981 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: if I were to, you know, look out the other eye, 982 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: I may have to go Dan, all right, fireman calendar 983 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: of all right? Topping on what's better? The word itself 984 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: were the delightfully, Briany Relish you might find on a 985 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: high octane sandwich. That is a great question. But I've 986 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: got to since i just had some lovely olive topping 987 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: od last week, and I've got to see the taste 988 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: over the time, because i don't even eat olives, but 989 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: the taste of the topping is right there. I'm not 990 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: really Uh, what's new Orleans? Come on, man, Yeah, it 991 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: was a great question. All right, Let's go back to 992 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: the couple. A lot of people think of you and 993 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: d is kind of the first couple of the NFL 994 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: media group. What are you thinking about some of the 995 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: buzz going along that Chris Wesley and Keisha are coming 996 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: for your throne? Any rivalry there that they want to 997 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: be the first couple of you know, I love because 998 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: you know there's some similarity, is there? You know, Keisha's 999 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: from the lou I'm from the Loop. Okay, Um, she's wonderful. 1000 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: Chris is wonderful. I'm sure. You know, Like when people say, 1001 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: what's the first one word describe your wife, I'm just like, 1002 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: she's just cool. And if we say, okay, what's the 1003 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: first word that comes to mind to say West, He's 1004 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: just cool. So if we were ever to like retire 1005 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: the throne or have some big dragon come and burn 1006 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: us out of the phone, I would love for West 1007 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: and Keisha to be the succession player. I'd much rather 1008 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: be the hand of the king. How about this one? 1009 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: You can answer this with a yes or no? Was 1010 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: and is Peyton Manning as pure and perfect as the 1011 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: public has been led to believe that I know, I don't. 1012 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna push you for details. Go West well. 1013 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: Akin to that topic, more likely to be lost to 1014 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: the sands of time. A hypothetical designated pinch runner who 1015 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: continually take second base on defensive interference? What or the 1016 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: other two thirty two games of Eli Manning's career. WHOA, 1017 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: that was deep pitch runner. I'm leaving it there. That 1018 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: was deep. Um, all right, give us give us one 1019 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: story from your experience as the host of nfl am 1020 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 1: for listeners of the podcast, this was a program Steve 1021 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: was a host of that. When did you have to 1022 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: wake up every morning twelve thirty in the morning. No, 1023 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: I was in studio. I was in studio. You had 1024 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: to show up for work every day at twelve thirty 1025 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: to go live on the three. Give us, uh a 1026 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: just or any thoughts or recollection or a story from 1027 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: your time. And one of the best is actually we 1028 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: were on the set. It was the day when Aaron 1029 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: Hernandez was getting arrested. Okay, and so great times. How 1030 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: about this was the only one that had a camera 1031 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: still a lot everyone had pulled their cameras back from 1032 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: that shot, from the shot we're having from across his house. 1033 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: So we're sitting there, I'm sitting there watching the monitor 1034 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: of Aaron hernant Is getting arrested. Meanwhile, those who shall 1035 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: remain name was a eating highlights and talking about what's 1036 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: going on, prompting Steve, why should you say, excuse me, 1037 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm watching a monitor of Aaron Hernandez getting cuffed as 1038 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: he's taking you putting on his white T shirt over this, 1039 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: and and it was a big oh yeah, like you know, 1040 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: we've only even talked about this for like six weeks 1041 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: now two months. Yes, it's happening, and fortunately you know 1042 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: my uh, you know, desire for the news. Great job. 1043 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: Well that was that was a good pro a good 1044 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: pat on in your own back, a good use of 1045 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: the third person. I think it's contagious with that chair 1046 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: using the third person. We know that you're a wine connoisseur, 1047 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: proven here today but other times as well. Let's say 1048 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm having just rewatched sideways on the plane to West's wedding. 1049 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: Who would you choose to go on a nice l 1050 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: a up the coast central northern California boozy wine tour 1051 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 1: with what NFL coach would you pick? What NFL coach 1052 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 1: dold I pick? For executive I'll throw it out. No, no, no, look, 1053 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: let's let's keep it the coaches. Who would I pick? 1054 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: I would probably wow, to keep this, to keep this 1055 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: quick and keep it moving, I'd probably say Sean Payton 1056 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: love it seems like I think glasses of wine and 1057 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: we have some good conversations. If the topic is the 1058 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: most dynamic, electric captivating athlete completely unknown to anyone under 1059 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: the age of thirty, would former Red center fielder Eric 1060 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: Davis the number one contender? Leading? Eric Davis looked a 1061 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: great athlete, but he would not be the number one contender. 1062 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: Come on, we're talking, you know. I mean, he's the 1063 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: best baseball player I ever saw. For about fifteen months 1064 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: from the middle of nineteen eight six through eight seven, 1065 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone do what that can say about 1066 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: Ron Gant couple of talking is even in the same neighbor. 1067 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're at five minutes or for 1068 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: all right, I'm unhappy almost all right, sure fast, Steve, 1069 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: it sticks in your craw that you haven't got enough 1070 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: credit for being the first person to break the Colin 1071 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: Happernick story. The sands of time should recognize you, you know, 1072 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: just doing my job. All right? That was that was 1073 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: five minute? Alright, I need a quick one for our listen. Alright, alright, alright, 1074 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: go ahead, this is for our listeners. But I'm gonna 1075 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: take notes. Favorite West Coast road trip, Favorite West Coast 1076 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: road trip. Uh, that would be up to the soul 1077 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: than lom Polk, Santa Rica area, Santa enez Valley, where 1078 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: I spent about four long weekends a year, Losvos, Los Salvos. 1079 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll wrap up on how did you celebrate 1080 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: the twenty year anniversary of Phantom Menace? Be real with us? 1081 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: What was Chris Long talking about that? Probably? You know, alright, 1082 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: what a what a trip? And you know, I think 1083 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: it sort of makes sense. The trip to Wie's World. 1084 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: We say it's five minutes, but it ends up being 1085 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: five and we get lost who really cares because it's 1086 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: relaxed and yet professional with the And I brought up 1087 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: the Kaepernick thing because I don't think people know that 1088 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: that you were the first person who talked to him 1089 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: and really wrote that story. Uh, and that kind of 1090 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, started a national fire. Yeah, straight from the 1091 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: pages of NFL dot com. You you did your job today. 1092 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: You knocked it out, and we're getting out of here. 1093 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: Well before sixty five minutes that Cessler was worried about, 1094 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: not worried, just sort of a track record suggests, And 1095 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: today you said the track record doesn't always tell the story. 1096 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: Although longer than what we said fifty five minutes. Let's 1097 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: I think we should get out of here. I think 1098 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: we should all enjoy our weekends. We're going to I know, 1099 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood behind the glasses about to Yeah, let's go 1100 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: get a little loose. All right, that's it. Let's do 1101 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: it for Mark Sessler, quiet storm. Mr Jackson over there, 1102 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley R. Jackson, Yeah, Steve Weiss and Ricky Hollywood 1103 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: behind the glass. We'll see it Tuesday.