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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pisovic christ

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Speaker 3: Is King.

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Speaker 2: We have breaking news out of Cuba, where the president

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Speaker 2: out the possibility of entering a quote state of war.

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Speaker 4: US President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected an offer from

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Speaker 4: Russian President Vladimir Putin to voluntarily extend the New Start

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Speaker 4: Nuclear Arms Controlled Treaty. The agreement, which caps the number

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Speaker 4: of deployed strategic warheads at one thousand, five hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty on each side, was signed in twenty ten and

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Speaker 4: expired Thursday.

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Speaker 1: New information emerging and the case of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance

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Speaker 1: as the desperate search now enters day six. Law enforcement

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Speaker 1: is racing against the clock, with the FBI confirming the

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Speaker 1: first deadline from an alleged ransom note has expired and

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Speaker 5: Microsoft co founder Bill Gates is now expressing regret for

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Speaker 5: his association with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 6: You know in retrospect that was a dead end and

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Speaker 6: I was foolish to spend time with him, as one

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Speaker 6: of many people who regret ever knowing him.

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Speaker 7: We began tonight with a major change in immigration enforcement

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Speaker 8: Portland police served an arrest warrant on a man who

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Speaker 8: threatened two security officers at a nearby safeway on January

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Speaker 1: I suspect had approached the security officers at the safeway,

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Speaker 8: That gun didn't fire, and the suspect got away, but

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Speaker 9: To give any spoilers. It's gonna be fun and it's

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Speaker 9: told him that they had four months to learn Spanish.

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Speaker 9: They don't even have to learn Spanish. They just is

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Speaker 9: better if they they they learned to dance. But I

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Speaker 9: come from the heart, that you know, the heartbeat dance.

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Speaker 9: That's the only thing that they need to worry about

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Speaker 10: And joining your second question, I think everybody more of listen.

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Speaker 10: and that's one of the reasons to be chosen. But

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Speaker 10: the other reason is he understood the platform he was on,

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Speaker 10: and that was this platform is used to unite people

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Speaker 10: and to be able to bring people together with their creativity,

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Speaker 1: Listen, Neill, and welcome on board today's edition of Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're here live February sixth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Anno Dominie, Folks, what can I say? We are now

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Speaker 1: just days away from the turning point USA All American

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Speaker 11: A lot of response on this, people say, how do

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Speaker 11: right here, Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 1: But to you, in the Real America's Voice audience, you

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Speaker 1: need to be the change agent. You need to go

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Speaker 1: out and be the force multiplier for this cultural event.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a cultural turning point this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: When you go out there and you go to whatever

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Speaker 11: Go out be the force multiplier.

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Speaker 1: Remember when we did the ballots. Remember we were getting

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Speaker 1: is how you get it up, whether you're on streaming,

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Speaker 1: We're now up on the Amazon Prime by the way,

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Speaker 1: Roku you can get it up there as well. So

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Speaker 1: It's really simple, but it's really really important to take

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Speaker 1: the steps. This is your mission, patriot. You need to

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Speaker 1: if you don't understand the words ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: We're not going to take this anymore.

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Speaker 1: We are the American people, and the American people are

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Speaker 1: going to step up and be heard. Our voices will

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Speaker 1: be heard, and we will vote. We will vote with

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Speaker 1: turn it off, change the channel, watch the game whatever,

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Speaker 11: People are going to be talking about this for years.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be the start of a new

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Speaker 1: it's time to make the shift. And that guy Goodell,

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Speaker 11: You know what I say.

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Speaker 1: I say, bring it because the people of this country,

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Speaker 1: the people of America, the millions who voted for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 11: Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: You want to find us will be at the TPUSA

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Speaker 11: We'll be right there.

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Speaker 1: This is Human Events with Jack Posovic. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: Now we've been trying to track them down all week, folks,

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Speaker 11: What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 3: How you doing? Jack? Good to see it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I know you've been burning the candle at both ends,

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Speaker 11: Of this thing. It's time to dig it. It's time

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Speaker 1: And Ben's to your point about CIA before we cut

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Speaker 11: You put out a video late last night early this morning.

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Speaker 6: Well, what I mean by that, I mean there is

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Speaker 1: It's so clear the way the same patronage networks and

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Speaker 11: Of course, we've all been talking.

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Speaker 1: The entire country is talking and on edge about this

491
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Speaker 1: situation down in Arizona, sort of north of Tucson, in

492
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Speaker 1: the area of Pema County, where the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie,

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Speaker 1: the mother of Savannah Guthrie, has taken place. I want

494
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Speaker 1: to bring on something we've had on the program before.

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Speaker 1: He is the former sheriff of Penell County, which is

496
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Speaker 1: just north of there. Sheriff Mark Lamb, who has run before.

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Speaker 1: He's running for Congress right now. He joins us here

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 11: Sheriff, Are you.

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Speaker 5: Great, Jack, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And I just got to get your sense, you know,

503
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Speaker 1: have you ever seen something like this take place in

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Speaker 1: the state of Arizona. I'm certainly on your watch. You know,

505
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Speaker 1: what's your sense of the case as it's unfolded.

506
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Speaker 5: Well, look, this is a very high profile case because

507
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Speaker 5: of whose mom she is, and there's a lot of

508
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Speaker 5: cases like this happen and oftentimes the people don't have

509
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Speaker 5: the name recognition, those cases go unknown to the community.

510
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: We had one similar when it first became sheriff. Turned

511
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Speaker 5: out to be a catfish thing. He disappeared, same type

512
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Speaker 5: of thing, blood around a car. We worked that case.

513
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Speaker 5: It took us four days to actually find the body. Unfortunately,

514
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Speaker 5: by the time we found him, he was dead. And

515
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Speaker 5: we ultimately tracked down the guy using social media phone

516
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Speaker 5: pains and we got our suspect and he is now

517
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Speaker 5: facing life and prison plus thirty years or something. So

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Speaker 5: I've seen it firsthand, and we've been involved in some

519
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Speaker 5: of these other cases, but this is a really high

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Speaker 5: profile case, and Jack, I've just one more thing not

521
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Speaker 5: to take away from this case and what's going on

522
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Speaker 5: for the Guthrie family, But we also have some really

523
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Speaker 5: big news that has dropped. And it's kind of frustrating

524
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Speaker 5: because there's a lot of stuff dropping right now with

525
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Speaker 5: the Epstein stuff, and yet this is kind of dominating

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Speaker 5: the news. And so I'm hoping that at some point

527
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Speaker 5: we get some attention back to some of these people

528
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Speaker 5: in the country have done some really really nasty things

529
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Speaker 5: that might be involved in that. So anyway, but i

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Speaker 5: know we're talking about GUS three today, so.

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Speaker 1: Right and certainly you know there's there's been no shortage

532
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Speaker 1: of violence, no shortage of trouble coming across I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you're talking just a couple about an hour north

534
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Speaker 1: of the border. People know I've I've talked about before

535
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Speaker 1: that I used to be ran through Fort with Chuco

536
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Speaker 1: a couple of times down Sierra Visa area for training,

537
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Speaker 1: and so I'm familiar with this area obviously, the turning

538
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Speaker 1: point headquarters being there in Phoenix, So I've you know,

539
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Speaker 1: been to been to this area quite a few times

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Speaker 1: and and the spot where she's at, you know, or

541
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Speaker 1: the house is at. You know, people have to realize

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Speaker 1: that this is this is kind of on the outskirts.

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Speaker 1: This is not the center of town. This is a

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Speaker 1: more you know, more specific area. This isn't something where

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Speaker 1: you're just sort of driving down the street and you

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Speaker 1: see a house. I mean you can even see in

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Speaker 1: some of the videos where where it's like this sheriff.

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Speaker 1: You know, in a situation like this, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions have come up. People say, could this beat you?

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Speaker 1: There's ransom notes, there's hoax, random notes coming in some

551
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Speaker 1: that seem to be taken seriously. But then other people

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Speaker 1: are also saying, what about members of the family in

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Speaker 1: a law enforcement situation? How do you you know, how

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Speaker 1: do you parse that out when it seems like there's

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Speaker 1: so much incoming all at once.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a lot of incoming, and plus the

557
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Speaker 5: national attention. There's just a social media and the national media.

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Speaker 5: Everything is popping off with this. You know, what we

559
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Speaker 5: have to do when we take a case like this

560
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Speaker 5: is we have to remove the feelings of it. I mean,

561
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Speaker 5: obviously we feel for the family in that sense, but

562
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Speaker 5: we also have to we can't let it cloud our

563
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Speaker 5: judgment or cloud the evidence. And honestly, in these cases,

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Speaker 5: ninety percent or more, I don't know what the exact number,

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Speaker 5: I know it's over ninety percent end up being somebody

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Speaker 5: that's familiar to the person or may even sometimes family.

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Speaker 5: And so what you're going to look for is you're

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Speaker 5: going to look for who had the means, who had

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Speaker 5: the opportunity, and also who had the motive, and the

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Speaker 5: family oftentimes falls within those three the most. I think

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Speaker 5: that you start there. You have to cast a wide

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Speaker 5: net because you don't want to lose her either. You

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Speaker 5: want to be able to catch anybody that might be

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Speaker 5: trying to get out of town, So you cast a

575
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Speaker 5: wide net. But honestly, you're going to really focus in

576
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Speaker 5: and hone in and how you can clear them. You've

577
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Speaker 5: got to look at the people that had the means

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Speaker 5: and the opportunity, and unfortunately that falls to the family

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Speaker 5: most often. So yeah, that's how we would treat that case.

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Speaker 5: Our job is to find them and find the crime,

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Speaker 5: and find the criminals the suspects of victim, and we

582
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Speaker 5: have to stay focused on what the evidence and where

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Speaker 5: it leads, what it is and where it leads.

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Speaker 11: Well, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you must have seen these this dramatic exchange,

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Speaker 1: the purported ransom notes. They're going to TMZ and some

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Speaker 1: local media. You've seen members of the family, the children,

588
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Speaker 1: responding to the ransom notes. When you get something like that,

589
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Speaker 1: do you really vet whether something.

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Speaker 11: Like that is real?

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously have to be skeptical, But what do

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Speaker 1: you do in terms of one of those situations.

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Speaker 5: Well, what you're going to vet is whether they have

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Speaker 5: information that is not privy to anybody else. I think

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Speaker 5: there was some information.

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Speaker 11: In one of those notes.

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Speaker 5: One of them, I think they arrested somebody on and

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Speaker 5: I don't know why they're sending them to TMZ or

599
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Speaker 5: the media. That doesn't make sense, but they're sending them

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Speaker 5: to the their one of them was enough. I think

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Speaker 5: that they actually they've had a response to Now if

602
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Speaker 5: you look at their responses, I know people hear the

603
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: message from the family and it is heartfelt. And the

604
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Speaker 5: FBI in law enforcement doesn't tell you what to say.

605
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Speaker 5: But when I hear those messages, if you go back

606
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Speaker 5: and listen to them, now that I told you this,

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Speaker 5: both the Sun and Savannah, the way they say, there's

608
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Speaker 5: very key information in there, and it follows a script

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Speaker 5: that the FBI or we in law enforcement will give

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Speaker 5: to a family missing somebody. Ay, you want to establish contact. Hey, please,

611
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Speaker 5: we're ready to each out, We're ready to talk. B

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Speaker 5: you ask for something, and in this case, you're going

613
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Speaker 5: to ask for proof of life. What we need to

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Speaker 5: see that she's alive, you even go. Part of it

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Speaker 5: is making sure that they're now sending you some fake photo,

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Speaker 5: which Savannah hit on. And the third thing you do

617
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Speaker 5: is you humanize the victim. This is our mom, we

618
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Speaker 5: love her, we want to back, she has medical issues.

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Speaker 5: Those are all following a very specific way to deal

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Speaker 5: with abductors and people that have been abducted. And so

621
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Speaker 5: while the rest of the country solid as hey, this

622
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Speaker 5: is those messages, if you go back, they're very consistent

623
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Speaker 5: in what they're saying, and they're hitting these very key

624
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Speaker 5: pieces for a script when we're dealing with an abduction

625
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Speaker 5: or a kidnapping.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's exactly right.

627
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Speaker 1: And you know some of the military training I had,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking about you know, hostage taking, abduction situations,

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Speaker 1: it hits on all the same you know, the idea

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Speaker 1: of humanization make sure that there's you know, there's someone

631
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Speaker 1: there that's a situation like that. I do to ask, though,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you being a former sheriff from

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Speaker 1: the area, you know, what is your sense of the

634
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Speaker 1: communication that the public has gotten versus you know, what

635
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Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of information that kind of

636
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: goes back and forth. You know, one day there's one

637
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Speaker 1: thing and then suddenly it gets contradicted the next day.

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Speaker 11: What's your sense of.

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Speaker 5: That you have to give confident and clear information, give

640
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Speaker 5: as much as you can without jeopardizing the case. I

641
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: don't think that was accomplished initially, and it's created a

642
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 5: real quagmire on the information level, and still to this

643
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 5: time there's still messaging well, we don't know or really

644
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 5: don't have any clue who it is. That doesn't give

645
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: confidence to the family, that doesn't give confidence to the public.

646
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Speaker 5: And what it does is it actually fuels more disconcerting

647
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Speaker 5: information or confusing information. Oftentimes, even if you don't really

648
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: have a strong, strong suspect, you will tell people that

649
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Speaker 5: you do because it makes the person who maybe the abductor,

650
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: they now all of a sudden start to make mistakes.

651
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: And so you're trying to either force them to make mistakes,

652
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: maybe they move the person. And this is the type

653
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: of information we would be giving. But really the leadership

654
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: should be delivering very confident, very clear, give as much

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Speaker 5: of the information as you can to the community, and

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Speaker 5: then withhold key information that's going to help you on

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Speaker 5: your investigation.

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Lamb, this is phenomenal information. One of the biggest

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Speaker 1: stories really in the country right now.

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Speaker 11: We're up on a heartbreak.

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Speaker 1: I want to hold you over because this is something

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Speaker 1: reading comments flooding in right now with the response to

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you're putting out. So hold it right there,

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Speaker 1: Jack Pasobic, Sheriff Mark Lamb here when human Events Dale

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Speaker 1: are right back.

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Speaker 12: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's written that fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 11: Go get it that.

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Speaker 5: He's been my friend right from the beginning of this

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Speaker 5: whole beautiful event.

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Speaker 7: Pad.

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Speaker 5: We're going to turn her around and make our country

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Speaker 5: quay to get him a man.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Civic, we are back live. We got

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Mark Lamb joining us now. Of course he's running

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Speaker 1: for Congress now, but for many years he was the

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Speaker 1: sheriff of.

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Speaker 11: Pinal County there in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly the same county where Nancy Guthrie has gone missing,

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Speaker 1: but very very close and in some cases also very

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Speaker 1: similar terrain.

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Speaker 11: Sheriff Lame, you were telling.

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Speaker 1: Us about a case that that took place where he

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Speaker 1: had a disappearance. Tell us a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: terrain that we're talking about in this situation, because people

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Speaker 1: are saying if she was abducted, I mean they could

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Speaker 1: be out in the desert.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. First of all, the desert is very dark out there.

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Speaker 5: Everything in the desert is trying to poke you, stick you,

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Speaker 5: try to kill you, let me scratch you, whatever, bite you.

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Speaker 5: So it is not the place you want to be.

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Speaker 5: It gets very cold at night. Even though Arizona may

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Speaker 5: get up to seventy five to eighty degrees, it's still

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Speaker 5: extremely cold out there in the desert. And so even

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Speaker 5: from the helicopter it's hard to actually locate people in

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Speaker 5: the desert because of the terrain. So when we've been

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Speaker 5: looking for smugglers or lost people in the past, we're

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Speaker 5: flying over and it is very tough to see them,

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Speaker 5: which is why they have called in Bortach. Bortech is

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Speaker 5: a specialized unit with the Border Patrol they are extremely

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Speaker 5: proficient at looking for people, tracking people, using footprints, all

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Speaker 5: sorts of stuff. So I'm glad to see that they

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Speaker 5: brought them in because if she is indeed in the desert,

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Speaker 5: you're going to want to have people experience with that

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Speaker 5: terrain who know where she might be and where to look. Now,

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Speaker 5: let's I mean, if she's been in the desert, it's

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Speaker 5: going to be a miserable four nights or because it

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Speaker 5: gets cold. But BORTAC is there and they can help

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Speaker 5: us tremendously in that area.

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Speaker 1: Well, and so border Bortach, I mean this ties in

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Speaker 1: with the national conversation that we've been having ice border patrol,

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Speaker 1: control of the border.

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Speaker 11: BORTAC has these capabilities.

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Speaker 1: Not because typically they're looking for abductees or victims, but

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Speaker 1: because they're tracking traffickers and cartels and migrants and coyotes

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Speaker 1: across the border in this area.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're human traffickers and well they're human let me

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Speaker 5: say that again. They are human trackers, not traffickers. They

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Speaker 5: look for the human traffickers. Yes, yes, sorry about that,

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Speaker 5: Sorry about that. I'm getting on a plane. For anybody

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Speaker 5: who listenings, they are human trackers. They're very good at

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Speaker 5: what they do and they're going to be very helpful.

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Speaker 5: If she is indeed in the desert. You want to

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Speaker 5: rule that out. You don't want that to be angering around.

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Speaker 5: You want to be able to know that you've looked

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Speaker 5: in all those areas, you've followed every lead. And this

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Speaker 5: also going back to the tracking, footprints, tire tracks, all

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Speaker 5: of those things become very important in a case like

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Speaker 5: this and guys who are experienced in that are going

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Speaker 5: to be very helpful.

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Speaker 11: And they have the ability to do that as well.

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Speaker 1: You know you mentioned at night infrared that's something they're

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Speaker 1: going to be able to track or I and on

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Speaker 1: those infrared cams. I know this from you know, being

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Speaker 1: an intelligence officer in the military, that you could track

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Speaker 1: if a vehicle has come through an area recently because

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Speaker 1: they'll see that, they'll see that heat signature and that'll

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Speaker 1: light up at night.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely that'll help if there's anybody that's been laying in

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Speaker 5: the sand, it will show the warmth of that in there.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, very helpful for tracking.

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Speaker 1: You know it certainly As Sheriff Lamb tell people a

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Speaker 1: little bit about your race and what it is that

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Speaker 1: made you want to go from from law enforcement into

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Speaker 1: running for political office.

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Speaker 11: They're running for Congress.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think we need this type of leadership, not

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Speaker 5: just at a county level we're seeing and we need

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Speaker 5: it everywhere. We need people that are experiencing the issues

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Speaker 5: of this country. Border patrol, getting government spending under control,

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Speaker 5: We're finding fraud and prosecuting people for fraud. These are

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Speaker 5: that type of leadership we need in DC and frankly

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Speaker 5: right now, we need people that are unapologetic about what

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Speaker 5: they believe in, and my belief system is God, family,

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Speaker 5: freedom in the Constitution. Andy Biggs has been a great congressman,

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Speaker 5: but he's now running for governor in the state of Arizona,

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Speaker 5: and I'm working on trying to replace his empty seat

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Speaker 5: and make sure that we get a good conservative in Washington,

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Speaker 5: DC that's going to try to bring some strong leadership

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Speaker 5: and some knowledge to Washington on some areas that we

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Speaker 5: really need to we need, really need to make sure

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Speaker 5: we fix. You know, President Trump has done great with

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Speaker 5: his executive orders and fixing the border, and now we've

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Speaker 5: got a lidify those long term and make sure that

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Speaker 5: we protect American citizens because all that we're seeing in

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Speaker 5: Minnesota and everywhere else, these are a byproduct of a

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Speaker 5: broken immigration system, and we're still dealing with the after

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Speaker 5: effects of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we see going on large And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you know, you mentioned how border patrol

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Speaker 1: and the importance of what they're doing.

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Speaker 11: You got Bortec out there.

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Speaker 1: That's actually joining in the search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: And they're being demonized by the Democrats, they're being demonized

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Speaker 1: by the media, by the left, but this is what

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Speaker 1: they do on a regular basis. They're the best in

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Speaker 1: the world at it. And those are the same people

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Speaker 1: who are being used as a political football when really

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Speaker 1: all they are is national security and law enforcement.

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Speaker 5: That's it. That's it. And what this also shows is

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Speaker 5: the importance of a working relationship with federal law enforcement

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Speaker 5: and local law enforcement. Not to digress into a political

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Speaker 5: but what we see across this country in the areas

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Speaker 5: where they don't want to work with the federal partners.

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Speaker 12: It's not always about immigration. Sometimes it's about finding somebody's mom.

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Speaker 12: Sometimes it's about tracking down human traffickers, child traffickers. Sometimes

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Speaker 12: it's about tracking down drug operations and cartels across this country.

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Speaker 12: To be successful. We have to have good collaboration and

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Speaker 12: cooperation from our local law enforcement, state law enforcement, county shares,

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Speaker 12: and our federal partners. And I think this is a

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Speaker 12: this should be a reminder to everybody on a case

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Speaker 12: like this the importance of that. And kudos to Prisident

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Speaker 12: Trump for his willingness to send all those resources for

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Speaker 12: this case and to be able to help wherever he can.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, Shrepland I know you've got to

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Speaker 1: run tell people where they can go to follow all

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Speaker 1: of everything that you're doing to get involved with the campaign.

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Speaker 5: Well, Jack, thank you for to have me on again.

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Speaker 5: Please go to Marklamb dot Usmarklamb dot us. You can

800
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: support by donating. You can donate no matter where you live.

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Speaker 5: Even though I'm running for Congress in Arizona, the votes

802
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Speaker 5: I make will impact you no matter what state you

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Speaker 5: live in. I've then endorsed by President Trump, House Freedom Fund,

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Speaker 5: Club for Growth TPUSA. So yeah, we're at turning point action.

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Speaker 5: We're running a great campaign and we want to be

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Speaker 5: able to represent the people of Arizona. And look, my

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Speaker 5: heart goes out to the Guthrie family. Hope, prayers for

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Speaker 5: the law enforcement and the family. But hopefully they find

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Speaker 5: her and bring some resolution to this case.

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Speaker 1: Well amen to that, there's no question. Schrif Flam thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Jack, We'll talk to you later.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, folks, you got to straightened the horse's mouth. Sheriff

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Speaker 1: Lamb one of the one of the best men in

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, certainly Arizona. When this whole thing kicked off,

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Speaker 1: he was one of the first people I said, we

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Speaker 1: want to get him on.

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Speaker 11: I want to get Sheriff Lamb on.

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Speaker 1: And I've remembered he was from the county that was

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Speaker 1: immediately adjacent to p McCown and I said, well, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, is the area similar terrain probably have had

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Speaker 1: cases that you know, crossed from county to county because

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Speaker 1: of course criminals and traffickers and the rest, they aren't

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Speaker 1: the ones that are going to be They're not to

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Speaker 1: worry about county lines.

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Speaker 11: They're going in and out.

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Speaker 1: And that situation he talked about, where you know, it

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Speaker 1: was a search and rescue where they were found out

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Speaker 1: in the desert, that there was an individual that had

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Speaker 1: gone lost and had been missing, catfished in that situation,

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Speaker 1: later found with the vehicle blood out there in the desert,

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Speaker 1: and it's not far from this area.

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Speaker 11: This is a remote area. This is not right downtown.

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Speaker 1: This is in the outskirts of Tucson, and then from

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Speaker 1: there it is not far at all as the crow

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Speaker 1: flies or be able to drive out into the high desert,

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Speaker 1: and certainly something that I think myself and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are looking for. I'll just say, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to take them seriously, but I'm skeptical. I'm

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Speaker 1: skeptical of these ransom letters. I want to know what's

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Speaker 1: going on on there. The fact that they're going to

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Speaker 1: media and not dealing directly with the family, it all

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Speaker 1: seems very suspicious. So my heart and prayers are certainly

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Speaker 1: with the Guthrie family this weekend. Folks, Patriots America, the public,

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Speaker 1: law and order, that's what we're talking about. And I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about American Patriots, not the team. That's why we've

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Speaker 1: got the Super Bowl halftime show.

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Speaker 11: That's why.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's going on to be a national thing. I

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Speaker 1: came up with the original, you know, the tweet for

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Speaker 1: it and all the rest, But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, it's about honoring our country. Using the inspiration

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Speaker 1: from Charlie that's exactly where this came from. So, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I hope you're watching this Sunday. Remember change

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Speaker 1: the channel to American Patriotism. Ladies and gentlemen was always

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Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay ashore