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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. You know

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Speaker 1: what day it is, right, Grett, Is this a size

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Speaker 1: about Monday? Oh, it's a size about Monday? Baby, after

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Speaker 1: a sixteen comeback? When had it measured? Had it measured?

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Speaker 1: Never doubt? Ever in doubt, never in doubt. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the definition of the size of mout Monday. You definitely

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Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna win the super Bowl after that

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Speaker 1: one question. Tyler Huntley is gonna lead the way to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Hey, as much as I love Tyler,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy, but you know we'll take Lamar back,

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Speaker 1: you know when he's when he was right. Some some

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Speaker 1: guy on the plane by the way, when I was

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Speaker 1: getting onto, when I was boarding, somebody goes, hey, size

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Speaker 1: about Monday Tomorrow? Buddy actually gotten his name in his address.

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Speaker 1: That man deserves a T shirt. He does. Unfortunately we

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Speaker 1: don't have any T shirts, so he'd be waiting for

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Speaker 1: about two years before he gets a T shirt before

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Speaker 1: we ever ordered them again. But it is a size

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Speaker 1: m up Monday. Anytime you get a win, it feels

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Speaker 1: that way, especially if you go on the road ode

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Speaker 1: and you beat a team with your backup quarterback, without

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Speaker 1: your number one wide receiver, without some of your talk dbs,

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Speaker 1: and then all the other injuries that the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: had over the course of this season. That was a

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Speaker 1: I know we all penciled this one in as the

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Speaker 1: Doves at the beginning of the year, and we all

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Speaker 1: kind of thought this would be one that the Ravens won.

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Speaker 1: But that still doesn't diminish how difficult that situation was

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens and how much credit this team deserves

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Speaker 1: for getting that win. Alright, So, Garrett, so be honest.

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Speaker 1: When you saw the inactives lists come out, no Lamar,

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Speaker 1: no Hollywood, no Anthony Averett, no Jimmy Smith, no Brandon Williams,

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Speaker 1: what did you think? Um, Honestly, I still felt like

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Speaker 1: the Ravens would win, but I felt like it would

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Speaker 1: be a tense game and kind of I mean it

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Speaker 1: kind of exactly exactly what it was. I thought it

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Speaker 1: would be a low scoring game. I thought that the

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Speaker 1: defense would play well, but they would have. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: felt like it played out. It was. Yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: thought the d us to play well and I didn't

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Speaker 1: think the Bears would have a huge day. But as

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Speaker 1: this has been the case. All the year, I was

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Speaker 1: worried about the big plays and then has bit the

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Speaker 1: Ravens once again. Um, I thought the Ravens one thing

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Speaker 1: I would say that was different from what I expected

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Speaker 1: at that time. I thought the Ravens might run the

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Speaker 1: ball sixty times. I thought it might look like an

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Speaker 1: army at exaggerating a little bit there, but I felt

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Speaker 1: like it might be kind of an army Navy game

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. Also, that field, just as a

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Speaker 1: side note, the field was like a high school field.

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Speaker 1: The grass was longer than I think I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in the NFL stadium and it was in terrible shape.

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Speaker 1: So that just kind of what Randy Brown told me

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Speaker 1: as we were walking to the buses were leaving the game.

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Speaker 1: Randy Brown was like, he was the Ravens special teams coach,

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Speaker 1: their kick justin Tucker's kicking coach was like, Ryan, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, it was like walking on the beach. It

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Speaker 1: was like it was so sandy. It was literally like,

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Speaker 1: well it was painted green sand. Yeah, it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was winning was terrible for Tucker, which makes his

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Speaker 1: forty six yard or even more miraculous. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: their kicker obviously miss one from what um and the

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Speaker 1: field was in bad shape. It was in bad shape,

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Speaker 1: and that just adds to the feeling of it just

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Speaker 1: being like an Army Navy game, you know, something out

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Speaker 1: of like the nineteen thirties where the forward pass. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I thought it might be that kind of a game.

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Speaker 1: Well alright, alright, so you say that, but now what

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Speaker 1: would you What were you thinking when the Ravens needed

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Speaker 1: to touchdown with a minute forty left, Yeah, you need

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Speaker 1: to go down to score a touchdown? You know, Well

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Speaker 1: they hadn't so confident then, right, No, the confidence at

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Speaker 1: that point was not as strong as it was earlier

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Speaker 1: in the game. But I also, like to be to

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Speaker 1: put completely honest, I'm just like this team. I kind

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Speaker 1: of been falling into the narrative that we've talked about previously,

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Speaker 1: which is when you have these wins and you win

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Speaker 1: in crazy circumstances, you just kind of feel like it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen again. Now. A big part of the reason

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Speaker 1: for that is I think there's so much confidence in

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and his ability to make magic happen that

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Speaker 1: when the team's down, they feel like, well, Lamar is

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Speaker 1: it does kind of change that feeling. But even after

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Speaker 1: like I honestly, at that point, it's basically like do

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Speaker 1: you have enough time? Like it's it's yeah, sure, Ravens

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Speaker 1: have enough time. You don't even think about like who's

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Speaker 1: on the field all that stuff. It's like, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: enough time for them to win. And there's like this

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Speaker 1: belief now that it's just gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Also, I mean that's immediately immediately where my

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Speaker 1: I mean the fourth down Andy Dalton long touchdown play,

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Speaker 1: I mean that took me back to the Bengals play

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Speaker 1: from the Tyler Boyd catch that pass like it felt

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Speaker 1: the exact same I was like, is that the exact

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Speaker 1: same point? It was? It was from where I was standing,

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Speaker 1: goes on the far side of the field. It was

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Speaker 1: a fourth down play. It was a bomb from about

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Speaker 1: the same Dart down in distance. I think maybe the

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Speaker 1: Bengals was a little bit closer. Um, I can't remember exactly,

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Speaker 1: but it was very different play, A little little different play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a cover zero blitz double move

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Speaker 1: on westreet. The other one I could still imagine, you know,

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Speaker 1: c J. Mosley in that lane, that throwing lane, almost

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Speaker 1: getting his hand on it. He went right over his

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Speaker 1: hand right between the corners, broken tackle. Now that I

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Speaker 1: see what you're saying. But the other the Bengals play

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Speaker 1: seared in there too well to know that this one

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Speaker 1: was a little different. Yeah, well as the same as

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton came into the game. As soon as Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton came too the game, I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: not the red rifle. Not the red rifle. Like just

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Speaker 1: you know, it's back to back weeks now where the

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Speaker 1: the game. The backup quarterback comes in and suddenly it's

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of a spark. And I thought

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Speaker 1: Calais Campbell said it well off the game. He's like,

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Speaker 1: that's just it just happens. It's just like, you know,

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Speaker 1: when the offense is in a rut and then another

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Speaker 1: game of momentum. Man, it really is like they get

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Speaker 1: to bang. First play, Andy Dalton hits Jimmy Graham for

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Speaker 1: I mean, and then you're like, oh boy, the Bears

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Speaker 1: uh credits to the Ravens for kind of stemming that

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Speaker 1: you know, regrouped and kept them in it close enough

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Speaker 1: for the offense to to keep making some drives. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. When when the backup quarterbacks come comes in

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Speaker 1: and you're having success, you get nervous, you get I

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Speaker 1: felt like the Ravens and they did. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: like where we keep it's kind of rinse and repeat

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Speaker 1: when we're analyzing defensive performances for this team. But like,

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Speaker 1: the defense played well for the most part. The Bears

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Speaker 1: weren't sustaining long drives, Ravens were weren't giving up you know,

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Speaker 1: big chunks on the ground. They were forcing the Bears

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Speaker 1: were getting pressure. Tis Bowser had a great game. But

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Speaker 1: then it's big place again, and you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: the same type of you know, like on the one

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Speaker 1: on the Darnell Mooney play, it was kind of a

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Speaker 1: combination of all the things. There were some like Chuck

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Speaker 1: was mis tackle that was thrown into Stevens. Stevens over

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Speaker 1: ran the play and didn't break down. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: just like all the things that have shown up at

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Speaker 1: times for the defense when they struggled this year. We're

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Speaker 1: kind of encapsulated in that one play. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, I was sitting there thinking like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bears are up seven to six at

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Speaker 1: that point, and I'm like, man, like, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: pin it on the defense here, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you give up seven points in the game. I don't

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Speaker 1: care how the one how the one touchdown happens, how

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Speaker 1: they get the seven points, but if you lose seven

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Speaker 1: to six, you can't blame the defense. Yeah yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so like um, but but then the offense obviously heat

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Speaker 1: the place, by the way, but the Bear's decision to

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Speaker 1: horrific decision. A horrific decision. I can't believe they went

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Speaker 1: for that, and the Ravens their credit. Josh Bonds gets

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Speaker 1: to stop with Matta Biga take over at midfield, march

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Speaker 1: it down. Although I think that's the one where the

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Speaker 1: interception happened, right, I mean, they're in position to take

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Speaker 1: retake the lead, and interception it was. It was. Really

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is it's like the Ravens offensively for

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Speaker 1: for struggling most of the day, like kept moving the ball.

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Speaker 1: They just kept getting the midfield and it was the

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Speaker 1: couldn't move like I don't know that the Ravens offense

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Speaker 1: have any three and ounce, I mean persistently moved the

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Speaker 1: ball with Huntley, he played, he played pretty darn well.

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Speaker 1: So all right, let's just we're bouncing all over the place.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's take the big picture of you here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ravens are now seven and three. You can make an

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Speaker 1: argument that they could be two and eight honestly come

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Speaker 1: back wins against Kansas City, Detroit, Colts, Vikings, and now Bears.

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Speaker 1: It's five five comeback wins like in probably like I mean,

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, they're marching down to win the game.

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Speaker 1: A dafeo a punches it out. Detroit, well, no, I

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Speaker 1: mean you're backed up fourth down, miracle six six yard Colts.

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Speaker 1: How how many points were the Ravens down? I don't remember,

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Speaker 1: but a lot a lot. Vikings game to fourteen point

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Speaker 1: think if you go through a lot of teams you

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Speaker 1: probably not to this extent, and definitely not to this extent,

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Speaker 1: but if you go through every team's record, you can say,

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Speaker 1: but you should have lost that game. You also you

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Speaker 1: could also say the Ravens probably should have won Week

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Speaker 1: one on Monday Night Football, when they took a late

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Speaker 1: roaring back. I gotta pick, gotta end zone picking overtime,

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Speaker 1: had the ball and over time. Yeah, I guess should

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Speaker 1: have been again that you win. So like I I

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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and I think it that just

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Speaker 1: I think that the the close nature of these games

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Speaker 1: speaks to two things. One, I think that it's indicative

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Speaker 1: of that this team has the resiliency and the composure

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Speaker 1: to win in tough situations. And I think that's for

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Speaker 1: a lot of these players that's kind of been I

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Speaker 1: just sort of a culture thing, and John Harball sets

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Speaker 1: the tone I think in that way to be able

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Speaker 1: be actively puking on the field to not play that game.

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00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: You know. Like even I was just saying to people

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Speaker 1: around Chicago talking about the game Saturday night, and I

429
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: was Lamar gonna play. I'm like, man, this is the

430
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Speaker 1: Jordan's Flu game. Was the Michael Jordan flu game. Baby,

431
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Speaker 1: nothing in Chicago. That's what I'm saying. That's that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking. I was like nothing. You know,

433
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Speaker 1: of course Lamar is not gonna be on the sideline.

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00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna play. But like, and that's why I asked

435
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Speaker 1: John Harbor after the game, like was he pushing you?

436
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: Like how close was he was he pushing you to

437
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: play or whatever? He was just like no, just way

438
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: too sick, like he knew there's no way he could play. Um,

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00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you if I see Lamar our Jackson around

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00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: the building, I am taking you turn way. Um, I'm

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00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: triple masked, triple mask So I mean, just yeah, just

442
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: a weird week. And I mean the thing that I

443
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: come away thinking is like how many times even this

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00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: this whole past week, when I feel like I was,

445
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, Greg Roman's personal defender, you know, and like

446
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: everybody was just saying, well, Lamar Jackson is the whole

447
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: reason this offense is, you know, had success and won

448
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: these games, and everybody's giving Lamar all the credit and

449
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: he's carrying this offense. Greg you know, is holding us

450
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: back and Lamar is carrying us. I think they're everybody

451
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: around Baltimore felt like, if you don't have Lamar Jackson

452
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: on the field, I probably have said these words myself.

453
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Speaker 1: If you don't have Lamar Jackson on the field, you're screwed.

454
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: Like there's no way, right, I mean, he is the offense. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: Snoop has something to say about that. Well, you know,

456
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: you know I think that one. You know, the thing

457
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: that's interesting about Snoop is like, I remember when the

458
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Ravens signed him as an undrafted free agent last year,

459
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: and you know, we did our podcast with him because

460
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: he had the historic game against Lamar back in high

461
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: school where they went back and forth and it was

462
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: kind of just as crazy circumstances. But like you the

463
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: Ravens made the decision to keep him on the practice

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00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: squad um and at a time when they already had

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Speaker 1: two other quarterbacks in r G three Um and Trace mcsorial,

466
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Speaker 1: And Snoop referenced that last night, basically saying that I want,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens gave me a shot and they

468
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Speaker 1: decided to keep me Um And you know, he kind

469
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: of he earned his spot to he made the most

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Speaker 1: of the opportunities when he did get them so it's

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously get him the credit. But I'm just like,

472
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I think that going with going with Snoop and keeping

473
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Speaker 1: him is another sign of how the Ravens have kind

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: of built this offense and the structure of it around

475
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Speaker 1: lamar Um and because he can slide into that spot

476
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: and play that role so well, and that was the reason.

477
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he just needed some seasoning, but they saw that, like,

478
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: we don't have to change the entire offense if Lamarge

479
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Speaker 1: Jackson goes down because we got Snoop who plays with

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Speaker 1: a similar style, right, And so I think that that

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Speaker 1: that the personnel deserves credit for that for for you know,

482
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Speaker 1: targeting this guy as an undrafted free agent, and then

483
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: also obviously the coaches for you know, developing and giving

484
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: him a season that you're talking about. Yeah, all right,

485
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's also give DeVonta Freeman a little love.

486
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: Here scores the game winning touchdown, You kind of forget

487
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: about that three yard uh push up the middle, and

488
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who has just had to

489
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Speaker 1: kind of step in and do the job, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. After the injuries. I mean I think

491
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: some people thought Freeman was just done. Yeah, you know

492
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: he was in New Orleans in the preseason. He probably

493
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: wasn't going to get a job there. I mean, he

494
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: didn't got cut, you know, and he's just sitting on

495
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: the free agent keep and sure, like you know, maybe

496
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: there's not as much explosion as there used to be there.

497
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, the guy deserves credit for

498
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: just grinding it out, both in the running game and

499
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: the receiving game. I've been impressed with him as a receiver,

500
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: like he just makes yeah and gets up for you

501
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: and tries to get what he can get. I mean,

502
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: credit to him for just being a grinder because the

503
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Ravens will be in a tough spot I think without him,

504
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: and he's kind of risen to the top of that

505
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: running back heap, you know what I mean. Out snapping

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Speaker 1: Lettavius Murray. He was coming off, you know, his first

507
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: game since the ankle, but still, you know, Levian Belle,

508
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens ended up partying ways with him. Like of

509
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: that trio of veterans that the Ravens have brought in,

510
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: Freeman has has kind of sees the the lead job

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Speaker 1: I think he has. I think that that's a I

512
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: think that that could change. I mean I think that

513
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: it was. I don't think that's like a super firm grip. Oh.

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00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I think that he and Lettavius Murray will probably just

515
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Speaker 1: about split the job once Murray has a little more

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Speaker 1: snaps under his yep. I mean that's yeah. I think

517
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: that's but you know he I think he deserves credit

518
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: and obviously gets the game winning touchdown, and um, you

519
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: know I said at the start that I thought maybe

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00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: this would be a game with the Ravens. Just I

521
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: was one thing. I was a little bit, I guess

522
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: disappointed with you know what, let's take a quick break

523
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Speaker 1: and then and then dive back into this. Sunday is

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Speaker 1: com for details. You know we're talking about the running

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00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: game Um. One thing I was a little discouraged with

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00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: is I thought that the Ravens might be able to

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Speaker 1: have a little bit more success on the ground. Um,

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00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: then they did. Now they finished with a hundred and

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00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: twenty three rushing yards. You think at that, you say

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00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: that's good. Um, Tyler Huntly had forty, DeVonta Freeman had

539
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: forty nine, the Tavis Murray had thirty two, and that

540
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Card had one carry for two yards. They pat

541
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Speaker 1: Rumblin for two so well that one that fourth down, yeah,

542
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I think it was either fourth or third and short.

543
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: But those so I thought the offense might be able

544
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit better knowing they

545
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: were getting Patrick McCarry back. That uh, they got the

546
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Tavis Murry back, and they got Nick Boyle back. Now

547
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: it's not like the running game going against the defense

548
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: that was banged up a defensive tackle with the Cheam

549
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Hicks out and I think lost another defense tackle during

550
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: the game. Well, and also not the clil mac is

551
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: he's known as a pass rusher, but just a dominant player.

552
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: He was out. So I thought that they might really

553
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: and obviously the march Jackson's out, so I thought this

554
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: might be a game where they just run, run, run, run, run,

555
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: and that that really wasn't the case. Um, Chicago still

556
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: has a good linebackers, ms A really good players, so

557
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: you know they can come downhill and make plays. But

558
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: that what was your take on that? Did that surprise

559
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: you at all? Do you think that's just kind of

560
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: what the offense is right now? Yeah? I thought that.

561
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I thought the ground game was good enough. Right, It

562
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: wasn't great. It didn't win the you know, well it

563
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: did win the game run, but like you know, it

564
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: was good enough. Like I just think that this this

565
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: is what the Ravens ground game is going to be

566
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: for the most part, Like none of these running backs

567
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: are going to have I think hundred yard days. You know,

568
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: they're all gonna average or you know, I think if

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00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: they average four yards of carry, you're probably happy. Like

570
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: what what's hurting them is like they just don't have

571
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: explosive plays in the run game at all, right, And

572
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: like I think big game, I tweeted, I missed j K. Dobbins,

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00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: Like you know, like there's just plays where you look

574
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: at it and you're like, man, j K is gets

575
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: yards over expectation, Like he can break some big plays

576
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens running game isn't breaking any big plays right now,

577
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: and and and honestly, I don't foreseeing many happening. Yeah,

578
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I hope we get a few, you know. And um

579
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: but but like I said at the beginning, and giving

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00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: him some props, like they grinded it out, like you know,

581
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: you you needed some like in critical times. You know,

582
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Murray had some good runs up the middle, like Freeman

583
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: had some whatever four yard five urds runs that were important,

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00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, and like they kind of I also think

585
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: that the ground game with Tyler Huntley at quarterback, like

586
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: they clearly know he's not as much of a passing

587
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: threat as Lamar Jackson would be, so they can kind

588
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: of go down right, they can go downhill on the

589
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: running game a little bit. I think if Lamar's under

590
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: center yesterday, the Ravens probably have more success running the ball. Yeah,

591
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I I do think it

592
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: was It was certainly a good signing get Nick boyle back.

593
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I think he was probably a little bit rusty and

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00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: um oh, I'm sure. I mean it's his first game

595
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: in a year. Yeah, And like I serious injury, a

596
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: serious injury that has taken a lot of time to

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00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: recover from. But I think the Cleveland didn't really play

598
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: once he gets Once he gets back and you know,

599
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: kind of knocks off the rest for him. I think

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Speaker 1: that will help the run game a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: all know, chim accusing big. Did you seek Benk Cleveland's boots,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I did. I saw him Raven Ravens

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Speaker 1: logos on the cowboy boots strong he suits up with

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Speaker 1: those on We're gonna be unstoppable. Put some cleats on

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Speaker 1: the bottom of those bad boys. I do think, I

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00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: do think that there is potential for the run game

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Speaker 1: to maybe as the office is Boil is back and

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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: gets more into a groove to that maybe open up

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00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: some holes here and and maybe allow the Ravens to

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00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: lean on it a little bit more and have some

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00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: more success in the cold months. Because I do think

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Speaker 1: Boyle like like I mean, I think Boil deserves a

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00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: ton of credit because it has not been an easy road.

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00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, we talked to him back before training camp

615
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's and and that felt like he was getting close,

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00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: and that was he still had four months to go basically,

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00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: um and it was a grind to get to that point.

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Speaker 1: So I think he deserves a ton of credit for

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Speaker 1: getting to getting himself back on the field after a

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00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: really serious injury that was not an easy recovery. And

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Speaker 1: I just think that he is going to only get

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00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: better and that will create some more opportunities, uh in

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Speaker 1: the run game as well. Yea, all right, so let's

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00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: talk about the defense. Um, you know, we kind of

625
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: already talked about familiar story here, but let's go to

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: the positive ties. Bowser Monster day. I mean, Bowser was

627
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: full Nintendo Bowser yesterday, just slamming Mario and Luigi around. Um.

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he had two sacks, could have had more.

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00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: One I think was overturned by a penalty or replay

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Another one, uh, which was originally

631
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Speaker 1: ruled a sack fumble that the Ravens were turned for

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00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown got overturned rightfully. So but like, I mean,

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00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: the guy just had a monster game, which is great

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00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: to see because I think, you know, he's been all

635
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: around good player, you know, valuable piece to have after

636
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: signing that contract extension. But to seem kind of break

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00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: out in this way as a particularly as a pass rusher, um,

638
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Speaker 1: I think takes the defense to a whole another level. Yeah,

639
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: if he can get after the quarterback and rack up

640
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: sacks and have multi sack games, then that is gonna be.

641
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: That's a difference Baker for the defense over this year

642
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: He's got four and a half sacks and then the

643
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: force fumble from yesterday. But he you know, the thing

644
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: that's with Thias Bowser is that his role is not

645
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: just pin your ears back and go get the quarterback.

646
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of how the Ravels are using you know,

647
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: justin Houston, Thias Bowser is more of a Swiss army

648
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: and if of hill dropping coverage, he's got great hands

649
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: when the ball comes his way. You know, last year

650
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: he had the interceptions that that bag is still that

651
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: trick is still in his bag. And John Harball made

652
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: the point after the game, uh that this guy is

653
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: playing as well as sending outside linebacker in terms of

654
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: all the things that he does and brings to the table.

655
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: And I thought that was a real endorsement for him.

656
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I know that there's probably Ravens fans. We saw the tweets,

657
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: you know when the Patriots are playing and Matthew Judan

658
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: is having a big day and uh, you know gets

659
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to double the digit sacks, and I think everyone knew

660
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: that Judon was really good player. If me think we

661
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: all knew that. I didn't realize he was this good though. Yeah,

662
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: there's this is a reminder that like Zias Bowser pretty

663
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: anger player too, and we saw that yesterday well, and

664
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: he came at a much lower cost for sure. Um yeah,

665
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean I when Tias was talking after the game,

666
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just looking at this guy, honestly, Like what

667
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: was running through my head was like, could could Tias

668
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Bowser become? And after hearing what Harps said, like could

669
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser like become a beast? Like could he could? He?

670
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: Like take that next, like you look at the guy

671
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: and I mean physically, I mean, goodness, gracious, I don't

672
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: know if there's anybody better than Thias Bowser, you know,

673
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: and like he's got the speed, he's got the attributes.

674
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: I think he's he's just grown. I mean John talked

675
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: about him as a leader, Like mentally, i think he's

676
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: in a much better place than he was early in

677
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: his career. Obviously, confidence has done a lot for that.

678
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: You know, you get some make some plays, and you

679
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: get your teammates excited about you. You get the coaches,

680
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you get the contract extension. Like, I think, just everything

681
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: is kind of adding up in the right way for

682
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: Tias And I really wonder what the guy's ceiling is.

683
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking, like, what is

684
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: this guy's potential ultimately, because I think he's still and

685
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: and that's why and that's why the Ravens signed him

686
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: to that contract extension. Is I think they see a

687
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: lot more meat on the bone for Tias Bowser. Yeah,

688
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: And I think we got a pretty pretty good bite

689
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: off that bone yesterday with those two sacks and the

690
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: forest fumble. And I just think that he is, like

691
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: you said, if if, if he can kind of turn

692
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: up the heat in the pass rush department and get

693
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: after quarterbacks the way he did fields in Dalton, well

694
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: then that makes life easier on everybody on that defense. Um,

695
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: it was a pretty good day for the past rush overall.

696
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean justin Houston got a sack. Jim Ferguson had

697
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: some pressure, you know, replacing Pronomic fee, which is kind

698
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: of an important thing, you know. Fergi he didn't have

699
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: a ton of snaps, but made most of them, got

700
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: the punt block deflection. Um, So you know, I think

701
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: defensively right now. One of the tough things for them,

702
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and Wink Martindale talked about it last week that he's

703
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: had to have difficult conversations is the safety play. And

704
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark specifically, I think, um, you know, he's not

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: playing up to how he would like to play right

706
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: now and what he's capable of playing too. And I

707
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: think Chuck's a really good player, and he's a huge

708
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: piece of this defense from a mental standpoint, you know,

709
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: film room, all that stuff. Like he's just a leader,

710
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: right he wears the helmet, communicates all the calls, all

711
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: that stuff. But he's had some tackling issues he had,

712
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, that was the issue with the Mooney touchdown.

713
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: He was one of the culprits in that. There's a

714
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: late game play I think, you know, the Bears are

715
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: facing a third and long flip it out to Montgomery

716
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: day Montgomery and Chuck had him one on one and

717
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: missed and Montgomery picked up nine yards or something like that. Um,

718
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think I do think that the Ravens

719
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: defense just needs better safety play, quite honestly. And Brandon Stevens,

720
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: I kind of give a little bit of a past

721
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: two considering he's a converted their heround rookie and still

722
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: very much learning. Chuck. Chuck just is just, you know,

723
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: it's not it's not I'm not trying to dog him,

724
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: but I think he knows he could play better. And

725
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I think was alluding to with

726
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: those difficult conversations. It's guys making mistakes who don't typically

727
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Yeah, I think, you know, and when the

728
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: mistakes have shown up, it's in the form of a

729
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown and that's what's been made him. So

730
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I guess painful to a certain extent is like, ah,

731
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: you missed tackle, you know, and it's a ten yard game,

732
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: all right, We'll get him this next, get him this

733
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: next set it downs, Well, no, it's a mis tackle

734
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: where two says he's both misplay it and kind of

735
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: take each other out, and then Mooney gets free run

736
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: and he's now he's now running sixty yards down the

737
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: field for a touchdown to take the lead. He just

738
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: it's we sound like a broken record. Those big plays.

739
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: They didn't ultimately end up hurting the Ravens yesterday, and

740
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: that's the good news. But it's a dangerous day years

741
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: thing when those plays are happening. And they have heard

742
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens this year, they have heard him. Well well,

743
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and the yeah, the tough part is is if you're

744
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: giving up big plays and you're not getting a lot

745
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: of big plays, right, the Ravens were getting a lot

746
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: more big plays offensively earlier in the year, you know,

747
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Hollywood and Denver comes to mind, you know, but you're

748
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: not getting big plays like we talked about in the

749
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Running Game particularly, and you know, Lamar has had a

750
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: couple of his tougher games in Miami obviously was horrible, um,

751
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: you know, and and and even before the Bengals game

752
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: was not great. Like, so you're giving up too many

753
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: and you're not getting any that's a tough And if

754
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: you're not winning the turnover battle, which the Ravens have

755
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: not gotten a lot of defensive turnovers. They did get

756
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: the forced bumble from Bowser that do you notice, by

757
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: the way, Well, you didn't sit next to me in

758
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: the press box, which I'm a little miffed about. Well,

759
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: because we couldn't use our have our usual dawing back.

760
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I had a your your name was next to mine,

761
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: You made the decision. You sat elsewhere No, I didn't. Well,

762
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Joe Ortees, Joe Ortees, I walked in the press box,

763
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, here's my seats, Like, yeah, there's a

764
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: bunch of open seats over there. I don't know what

765
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: I did to Joe, but I'm gonna have to bring

766
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: in our pre draft pod. I'm going to bring this

767
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: up that he booted me. I don't know what I did.

768
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Did I smell bad, did I look bad, bad breath? Whatever?

769
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: It was like, Yeah, I see some all halfway across

770
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: the press box over the buddy. Yeah, I think it's

771
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: some open seats in the upper deck. You can go

772
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: sit outside. But I tried to recruit you to come over.

773
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: It was nice over there, you know, it was nice

774
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: and luxurious. Yeah, but I get up there. I had

775
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: our area, had a computer unpacked, everything's plugged in. I

776
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't really interested in, you know, move in my location,

777
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: rooting uprooting in the middle of the game. All right,

778
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I feel you. Anyway, what were we talking about? I

779
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: don't know that we got off track there. We got

780
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: off track there, but no, look it's a here, here's

781
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. There are still we're

782
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: talking about the defense in the big place and all that.

783
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: But there's those are still things that the defense has

784
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: to improve. I think that they need to the safeties

785
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: need to play at a higher level. Oh wait, I

786
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: just remembered. I just remembered. I just remembered. Let's start

787
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: to cut you off. Actually not that. Um alright, So

788
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: did you notice on the forced fumble? Uh, we're talking

789
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: about turnovers. The Ravens haven't gotten a lot of turnovers defensively.

790
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Bowser forces the fumble, U c p Q. You try

791
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: to scoop scoop scoopid score again, it was like, nah dog,

792
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: nah dog. I was actually I was kind of like

793
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: there was no one around him. Yeah, I thought he

794
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: could maybe I feel That's what we thought last time too,

795
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: I know. But then was like playing that plays basically

796
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: had made the same play that offensive lineman did in Miami.

797
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: He like went full extension, just dove. I'm just falling

798
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: on this thing. Um So bravo Clay, bravo, sir. But yeah,

799
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: that that was pretty funny. But I mean, kind of

800
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: what to what I was gonna say, Like, if you're

801
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: not getting a lot of defensive turnovers, you're not getting

802
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: a lot of big offensive plays like and and you're

803
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: not you know, you're turning the ball over on offense

804
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: too much. Like all that stuff usually adds up to

805
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: not sitting here at seven and three, you know, like

806
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: the Ravens have to keep overcoming themselves also. But like

807
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you just kind of wonder, is

808
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: this who they are? Is this who the defense is?

809
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, are they just a dominant defense for of

810
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: the game and the other ten percent watch out? Like we,

811
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: like we said, we've seen it over and over again,

812
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, so you just wonder, Yeah, I think that

813
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm holding out hope that for these games here down

814
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: the stretch that wins out. You know that basically what

815
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing in those in the majority of these games

816
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: ends up being the way that this team plays versus

817
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the two. Um. And so that's how I'm looking at

818
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: it as we go in to this this stretch here, um,

819
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: starting with a divisional game Sunday night football against the

820
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: Browns right here in Baltimore. So we are it is

821
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week, UM, So that means start mentally preparing for

822
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: the meal h Thursday. You gotta start, you gotta start

823
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: just getting your mind right for that you know it's

824
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: it is an endeavor of a day. Oh I'm still

825
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: trying to digest all the pizza that I ate in Chicago.

826
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: I delivered all my promise for you listeners out there.

827
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ten it was. I got the delivery. It

828
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: took two hours, right, well, yeah, so I didn't get

829
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the pizza delivered until ten thirty in my hotel room.

830
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: Take it out. They didn't pack, they didn't cut it

831
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: because I guess the sauce would just run all over

832
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: the place. And I'm in a hotel. I don't have

833
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: a pizza cutter. I don't have a plate, I don't

834
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: have any utensils. I just get a pizza, uncut pizza.

835
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: I start going at it like an animal, just hands,

836
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: just only hands, ripping off pieces. I won't lie. We

837
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: got a little sauce on the bed sheets. She's got sauce.

838
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: I called in the morning and I said, I apologize,

839
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: but there is a large pizza stain from this sauce

840
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: is bopping off of that thing. I was like, are

841
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: you taking this out of my deposit? So I was.

842
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: It was a good weekend. That's good. That's good. So

843
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: good luck on the piece the pizza digestation or digesting

844
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: that sounds right yeah, um, and then we will have

845
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: a podcast later this week. Um, and we would talk

846
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the Browns game and also

847
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: have a guest and uh I also get ready for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for listening. We'll be got

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Speaker 1: with you later this week.