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Speaker 1: swear to god, this guy we got in the building tonight,
Speaker 1: I really ceercha and went through his whole catalog and
Speaker 1: I couldn't find okay record. It always was the banging
Speaker 1: this director. He made babies to him. No, no, no, no no, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that. I want to get to that.
Speaker 1: Everybody gotta make a baby behind this guy. But he
Speaker 1: makes he revolutionary. He revolutionary the hip hop to me
Speaker 1: in a way that excuse me r B and hip
Speaker 1: hop because yeah, melodies. He was right, It was almost
Speaker 1: like he was writing it from a rapids perspective. But
Speaker 1: there's one doing no. I think he I think they're
Speaker 1: all his children. So the people don't know Brye. Now
Speaker 1: we are talking to the dream in the building making
Speaker 1: how many babies you think was made to your music?
Speaker 1: Two point five? Yet he's like three million? You may
Speaker 1: for trump Rod me going in so little dream? Right?
Speaker 1: How did you develop that style? Because everybody is kind
Speaker 1: of somewhat memerican what you do? Like, you had melodies
Speaker 1: first in your music? You you appealed. I put it
Speaker 1: like this, I'm gonna be honest, right, I really wasn't
Speaker 1: a big R and B fan, right, but there's certain
Speaker 1: people that certain music. It was like they made it
Speaker 1: for me, not like you know. Like what I mean
Speaker 1: is it was easier for me to understand digested, easier
Speaker 1: for me to digest it. And you're one like I've
Speaker 1: never heard of rap dream record ever? Thank you? Are
Speaker 1: you should maxing most of that? Were you ever? That's
Speaker 1: fired rapper? My question? So yeah, how do so? How
Speaker 1: did you develop that style? How do you think? So?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I think I think I think most um
Speaker 1: rb at the time was more offense. I mean it's
Speaker 1: more defense. I guess I should say, um and my
Speaker 1: and my ship was just more offensive like and that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I feel about rap Like I feel
Speaker 1: like it's just high power offense all the time and
Speaker 1: the repercussions after that. So if you put that in
Speaker 1: football terminologies, it's like, let's have a game like no defense,
Speaker 1: like to say, all the ship you need to say
Speaker 1: and and yeah, you're right. A lot of that just
Speaker 1: came from where I was from West South Atlanta. We
Speaker 1: grew up to be inspiring, you know rappers at the time.
Speaker 1: I came with nineties was my ship, so I should
Speaker 1: put you in too, No, No Georgia exactly. So you
Speaker 1: got outcasts popping exactly. You got good in all and
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's kind of gravitating towards this um Atlanta scene.
Speaker 1: And at the time, you know, freaking was the biggest thing,
Speaker 1: like period because like it's the center of the culture
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta for me, and I'm his teenager young
Speaker 1: growing up of course I want the champion, so so
Speaker 1: so for me it was easy to see us. Then
Speaker 1: Jamaine do Pre started riding around in Ferraris and ship
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin was getting it at that particular. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't even know. And when you saw that,
Speaker 1: you know, and being on the Bible belt is where
Speaker 1: the music part comes from, like because you're in a
Speaker 1: place where Baptist churches, you know, like we have singing
Speaker 1: in the ch anyway, I don't I'm gonna say a
Speaker 1: lot of like ill singers. I noticed they started out
Speaker 1: in like church and like quiet and old period. South ahead,
Speaker 1: you can think, that's that's your champagne comes right here,
Speaker 1: so get headed to you. So so so for me,
Speaker 1: it was just more so about let me take a
Speaker 1: sip I gotta get because let's get it right. Let's
Speaker 1: get it right. M m. That's that puff got that
Speaker 1: ship he got it right ahead? Support black o, what
Speaker 1: was that? I'm Atlanta, Atlanta. Seen seen the church choir,
Speaker 1: the church chod, so everybody. So everybody's in the church anyway,
Speaker 1: like if we're having a Ferrari, Yeah, everybody, everybody, because
Speaker 1: because what really happened is l A. Reid came down
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and revolutionized what what the music scene was.
Speaker 1: We don't just he is not from Atlanta, like he's
Speaker 1: some motherfucker's sitting at the player, but some of us
Speaker 1: know what that means. He's from six, He's from six.
Speaker 1: So but he just kind of showed the culture of Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I believe, for me how to get money. That was
Speaker 1: a place. Yes, there was a place because he had
Speaker 1: an infrastructure. There wasn't a place we could just go to.
Speaker 1: You know. At the time of the Face, when he
Speaker 1: opened it up, it was like whole ship. You take
Speaker 1: the records over there. And although I was too young
Speaker 1: to take him there, still it's like a bat signal
Speaker 1: in the sky. It was the only place there. Um
Speaker 1: So for us that was our death jam at the time.
Speaker 1: On the Face, yes, of course that was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so everything Atlanta came out originally in the nineties was
Speaker 1: like was like the Face. Yeah, because baby Basis, Baby
Speaker 1: Face is UMAs came out through the face. Outcast came
Speaker 1: out through the face. Goodie mob man you got and
Speaker 1: then you got the people who came after that. You
Speaker 1: got the t S. And I had to get into that,
Speaker 1: me and Tip. But yeah, yeah, so but I'm saying
Speaker 1: in my group that was my influence, you know, looking
Speaker 1: at that, and that's what Tip looked at. You know,
Speaker 1: me and Tip went to elementary school together. So so
Speaker 1: we're watching this ship that's saying, oh, y'all make hold up,
Speaker 1: whoa time out. We didn't know you can make that
Speaker 1: type of money from music. You know, everybody in New
Speaker 1: York knew that already. Everybody in l A knew that.
Speaker 1: Tips seemed like he only went to English class. But
Speaker 1: he he's like school, I'm taking English like that. I
Speaker 1: think I think that try. But New York, you know,
Speaker 1: they had the infrastructures. Hollywood is the same way, you know,
Speaker 1: especially with television and movies. In Atlanta was just this
Speaker 1: you know, young church going cultural black thing happening. And
Speaker 1: we just found out that motherfucker's gonna get ferraris for
Speaker 1: for singing and dance. So let's go. I believe like
Speaker 1: the first time like people got to see your personality,
Speaker 1: like the show that you was Hood was the time
Speaker 1: when you and jay Z accepted that and it was
Speaker 1: like you we walked up there, you were just like man,
Speaker 1: definitely like you hold literally a slight Joe. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a guy. He gotta be good when he say, um,
Speaker 1: I like to think to swap meat and and that's
Speaker 1: the and that's the crazy thing about like me and
Speaker 1: his relationship. Um that grew, you know, from a certain
Speaker 1: play from from Umbrella, you know, that grew into this
Speaker 1: thing that that it's hard to I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really the like this is my guy you
Speaker 1: look on Instagram, not like every time I went jaylesself
Speaker 1: itself every time. You know, I'm not I'm not referred
Speaker 1: to him all the time. So so it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. So when, of course, when we first said,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, damn you take us bet you like that,
Speaker 1: like that's that's over. Oh yeah exactly. I'm like I
Speaker 1: probably had that coming from like five jokes ago. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen hold one day and hope to
Speaker 1: stop me when he came out heads there holds that
Speaker 1: I would ask you how you're doing, but your glasses
Speaker 1: say it all. And I said, that was so funny. Shot.
Speaker 1: I didn't say it as good as he said it,
Speaker 1: but it was like, he's really a funny guy. I
Speaker 1: think you're the humor at the top is there, like
Speaker 1: I think all of us are just you just naturally
Speaker 1: have to gravitate it to a place. You know, ships
Speaker 1: sucked up out of here. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you better have something now and says an album awesome. Man,
Speaker 1: she made me feel bad for every relationship ever did
Speaker 1: in life, Like I just wanted to call people and
Speaker 1: apologize like she when she talked about yes she talking
Speaker 1: about it's like why do you cry? She's like the
Speaker 1: sea she was like the way she was breaking down,
Speaker 1: she like she was hurt, And they just made me
Speaker 1: think of the ship I did in the past, like
Speaker 1: for years ago, and I still just want to say
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not like all you over that it's army
Speaker 1: because you said earlier defensive, defensive and offensive offenses and offensive,
Speaker 1: So you do you think because like because like it
Speaker 1: was like I remember at one point, like Mary Jay
Speaker 1: Blast for example, Like if soon as you heard her
Speaker 1: go through tragedy, everybody would say I'm gonna be fired.
Speaker 1: Like do an R and B person have to go
Speaker 1: through drama in order for the music to be like that? Man?
Speaker 1: I think speaking for myself as a songwriter, and I
Speaker 1: have to say that, like, um, it doesn't matter which
Speaker 1: genre man, Like it's it's a it's an animal that's
Speaker 1: hard attaining because we constantly need things to fuel that
Speaker 1: you know, inspiration. Yeah, yeah, And it's it's hard because
Speaker 1: you know, on one hand, you're having you know, people
Speaker 1: wanting you to live everyday life the exact same way,
Speaker 1: and then your life changes in multiple ways. First of all,
Speaker 1: you learn things that are that are different. Um, even
Speaker 1: just from one stretch going from oh, when I grew up,
Speaker 1: I was in Baptist Church and now I'm questioning everything,
Speaker 1: everything that everybody does. But that's the writer in me. Like,
Speaker 1: and when you write, you don't you're basically, um, you're
Speaker 1: basically inventing. The words are invented, the scenarios and all
Speaker 1: of the things that you're talking about is being invented.
Speaker 1: So you have to invent those situations to even talk about.
Speaker 1: Or you can talk about some ship that's old, which
Speaker 1: then somebody else's or somebody else's tragedy. Um. But but
Speaker 1: I think it's such a it's such a hard animal,
Speaker 1: you know to tame, like like really, you know, I
Speaker 1: say that with the utmost respect for all the great writers.
Speaker 1: They have to go through. You have to go through something.
Speaker 1: You see these movies, you know it's inspired by something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you can't want you know, the heart and soul
Speaker 1: from somebody without them pouring out the best because out
Speaker 1: of pain. Oh of course, how did you write umbrella?
Speaker 1: It was just raining? Man, was like, man, definitely bought
Speaker 1: a light after that. It doesn't never rain. So because
Speaker 1: like that always amazes me. You know, one, I know
Speaker 1: about all the most of the song writer you're doing.
Speaker 1: And for you to step out yourself and jump into
Speaker 1: another artist song not only just any artists of the
Speaker 1: friend sex. How do you do that? Oh? Man? You
Speaker 1: know it's it's I'm like people. My my wife witnesses
Speaker 1: it all the time. I know she doesn't really admit it,
Speaker 1: but I know I can be beyonceved when I wake up,
Speaker 1: I'm real. About three o'clock, I'm Jay and pushing. About
Speaker 1: seven and eight and then nine I'm Celine Dia, then twelve.
Speaker 1: Let's writ you ever call West if you ever went?
Speaker 1: This is Joe everybody. I was trying to you know,
Speaker 1: it didn't work, But Martin brother, So how did you
Speaker 1: get an a zone? Like? What was you doing? I
Speaker 1: think it was just the I think it was just time.
Speaker 1: You know, I had my first daughter at that time,
Speaker 1: and I think it was time for me to start
Speaker 1: sucking sucking around and playing with myself and where I
Speaker 1: needed to go, and I just turned on a different thing.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just like a It's like a switch.
Speaker 1: Just I knew how to do what I needed to do.
Speaker 1: But I've always is um done better with pressure, and
Speaker 1: that song was just out of pure pressure in life
Speaker 1: and not really just about being broken not having certain things.
Speaker 1: You know, I was okay then I had I could
Speaker 1: say that I had a music career at that particular
Speaker 1: one the time I was getting checked out of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a writer, I was getting checks out of the game.
Speaker 1: I had a publishing deal. But it was just one
Speaker 1: of those things where it clicked and and when you
Speaker 1: can see it, it's almost like having an out of
Speaker 1: body experience. I watched myself walk in and write that record,
Speaker 1: and you wrote it for the record was wrote originally
Speaker 1: for Britney Spears. If anybody remembers the umbrella, isn't it
Speaker 1: tell I think it was. I don't know if she
Speaker 1: was with Britney Spears would have fit on. Nope, know
Speaker 1: who she's gonna put on that kid rock because she
Speaker 1: think about it? It would, but you worked on I
Speaker 1: mean if she oh, that's where it came from I
Speaker 1: worked on a record called Me Against the Music that
Speaker 1: featured Madonna at the time, earlier on, so it's more
Speaker 1: we're so happy for you brother. That's Michael Jackson did
Speaker 1: a boom walk in the session. Hilarious But no, but
Speaker 1: but I was it was already a relationship there. So
Speaker 1: in this game, you know the best chance? How did
Speaker 1: Britney Spears record until we are the record? Oh and
Speaker 1: that's a whole another thing. I sending it in a
Speaker 1: person that's my good friend. Now, I won't throw her
Speaker 1: under the bus, but I sent it to to Brittany
Speaker 1: these people and one of the people who got the
Speaker 1: record actually is a good friend of mine. Now we
Speaker 1: worked really really close. But at that time told me
Speaker 1: it wasn't a hit record. What that was The word
Speaker 1: I got back, wasn't a hit. Yeah, she's not here
Speaker 1: get talking back to this to get his name out
Speaker 1: of there. He's probably gonna get that's my that's my
Speaker 1: boot um and and it just grew on from there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, funk that. I don't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1: She's smoking something like she's high or she's in fear
Speaker 1: of losing her job. I don't know what it is?
Speaker 1: Um and literally after that the record was heard. It's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy how this story happened. Me and Tricky
Speaker 1: Stewart did the record. But the record got from Atlanta,
Speaker 1: it was just a peep of it and got hurt
Speaker 1: of deaf jam about l a Ree and he sent
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine now her name is Karen
Speaker 1: Kwark down down to retrieve the record. She's like, who
Speaker 1: the fund is writing this ship? Who is it? And
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, the young guy didn't have
Speaker 1: no super big placement, so nobody knew who the funk
Speaker 1: I was, you know, really just people in the city,
Speaker 1: of course, people in the studio where we were working
Speaker 1: at in Atlanta. But that record, of course went from
Speaker 1: there to um l A and Karen saying, you know who,
Speaker 1: this record would be great on Rihanna and the record
Speaker 1: got played and I guess she heard about the record
Speaker 1: at a certain point in time. She's out at the
Speaker 1: Grammys that year earlier in two thousand and seven, and
Speaker 1: she heard about the record. I guess she had heard it,
Speaker 1: but we had not cut the record yet, and she
Speaker 1: walked up to my manager and said, that's my fucking record. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Rihanna just like that, that's my can you can't all
Speaker 1: give it the West Indian Yeah, just don't do it.
Speaker 1: Of course, when I heard that she said that in
Speaker 1: that way, I was like, Yeah, that's the motherfucker that
Speaker 1: should have had the record attitude, right, you got it?
Speaker 1: And then I was already kind of following her and
Speaker 1: she she already had a couple of records that that
Speaker 1: I felt were great. This record was gonna go with that?
Speaker 1: That how big was going to be? I think, I
Speaker 1: think timing and it's all based on a certain math
Speaker 1: that we can never really solve, you know, lightning in
Speaker 1: the bottle. Things happened for you, and it's a blessing
Speaker 1: those things out of your control. You know. The only
Speaker 1: thing you could do is be prepared. So I was
Speaker 1: prepared for the moment. But to say I knew exactly
Speaker 1: what it would do, I knew what it was, you know,
Speaker 1: I say that it was a good record, and I
Speaker 1: knew it was a better than good record. I knew
Speaker 1: it was a great record. But ship happens, man, People
Speaker 1: ship shot crazy videos to certain songs that I had
Speaker 1: rolled the ship out the ole way, and you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fun you know there's other there's other things
Speaker 1: that other forces that come into black. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: a wrote a record and it was like, let me
Speaker 1: take my ship back. Wrote a record for somebody because
Speaker 1: I ain't gonn That's why I can't write ship but nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm taking my safe back. I don't say he was
Speaker 1: doing out a hit and I find the reason nothing
Speaker 1: like you ever said before, Like I didn't want to,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to do it. What the person
Speaker 1: get hit the notes right or song? It wasn't hit
Speaker 1: the notes the notes. I don't know where he took it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't don't wake my gun. I'm trying to trying
Speaker 1: to stay right now to the record. And you wrote
Speaker 1: it for them, and then I wrote it for for him,
Speaker 1: which was Jamie Foxx. At the time, there was a
Speaker 1: record called Rocking that Ship. Rocking that Ship. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: rocked that Ship. So it just turned into one of
Speaker 1: those things where I wrote it for him and he
Speaker 1: was like, I think I did like six records on
Speaker 1: that album. Um. The first single ended up being Blame It,
Speaker 1: which was which was a record that was an interpretation
Speaker 1: of I Love Your Girl, which is my older record
Speaker 1: at the time. So I'm happy either way, like okay,
Speaker 1: and he's like this record is cool, but Dream, I
Speaker 1: need a dream record. I need a dream. I'm like
Speaker 1: this that new ship like do this ship is like
Speaker 1: now I'm good, And so I was kind of happy
Speaker 1: he said now I'm good and that she was my
Speaker 1: first thing to make some noise with Dream being like
Speaker 1: me exactly what I was exactly like as been like, so, um,
Speaker 1: what's inception with Kanye? Um? For me? Pretty pretty tame? Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty tame is you know, everybody has these and elephants.
Speaker 1: People just have different ideas about people, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think you know some real nigger ship. It's just
Speaker 1: one of the things that when you people, you people,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody has their their ups, there downs and
Speaker 1: ship that they go through. Um. But most of all,
Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about the creators, they're pretty
Speaker 1: they're pretty loved, you know, individuals by all of us
Speaker 1: and it's love coming back, you know, our way. So
Speaker 1: when I'm with Kanye, like, I don't see any thing
Speaker 1: other than greatness, you know, and what he's trying to
Speaker 1: get done. Like, I don't see any other noise, any
Speaker 1: other ship. You know, noise may happen after that. But
Speaker 1: for me, we on one, we locked locks synergy between y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we walk in and ship, we get the ship done,
Speaker 1: you know. And and it's been days are you've been nights,
Speaker 1: been out, flown out to Paris and we didn't do
Speaker 1: ship for like three four days. And I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: that's car exactly. I'm a different type of person in past.
Speaker 1: It's coming out there right now. What he's in Paris, damn,
Speaker 1: And it's fantastic. Next he goes, he's saying he hadn't
Speaker 1: make it so single lays because that's a super girl, right.
Speaker 1: There's what else at that time? This is the easiest one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what else would Beyonce be singing about to all my
Speaker 1: single days? Is that the way you looked at it?
Speaker 1: And she was in a relationship, y'all. Nobody knew who
Speaker 1: Jay was there. You all to know what it was
Speaker 1: happened to be on tour at the time with Jay
Speaker 1: and Mary. I was opening up for Jay and Mary
Speaker 1: on the tour and and I remember Jay Um coming in.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, need you need you doing right with
Speaker 1: my girl? And I was like, all right, cool, bet
Speaker 1: it's nothing. The next thing that popped up is oh cool.
Speaker 1: So you know, you're like an investigator. You're just reporting
Speaker 1: the news, like okay, nobody really knows if you like
Speaker 1: you should have put a ring on the count a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of ship to a lot of people. It's
Speaker 1: a coffee I call it a coffee table conversation. Um.
Speaker 1: It was just one of those things that was an
Speaker 1: obvious thing the right like and you know you didn't
Speaker 1: see the ring into the video. I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh cool, who said all this ship up? And so yeah,
Speaker 1: what a better public way to say, oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: we actually together together. Musical teams is a real moment.
Speaker 1: That is a real moment. That's pretty cool. And you
Speaker 1: just's like it's like Jay just continues to work with
Speaker 1: you like they are like one of the craziest masterminds
Speaker 1: in the world. Knows that you're the master. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like not that's that's that's what. That's what kind of
Speaker 1: matters to me. The most type of of what I
Speaker 1: do with the people I respect and that I work
Speaker 1: with is that the greatest people who are doing the
Speaker 1: ship knows like, all right, we think we finished with
Speaker 1: the album. No we're not call that nigger, even if
Speaker 1: you just gotta come listen to it, even if he
Speaker 1: adds four bars or he adds three hooks, so a
Speaker 1: whole song. Make sure we call him. And that's I
Speaker 1: take the most pride in that, because, um, that's that's
Speaker 1: just more more important, you know to me, that the legends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like yo, like that's the guy. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's way more important than me, you know, And I've
Speaker 1: literally sacrificed um a certain um I guess um we
Speaker 1: can say shimmer on my own armor because of that,
Speaker 1: you know, because I I will take that back seat
Speaker 1: to things that I feel like that are more important
Speaker 1: to me, are more important to the world that they
Speaker 1: get a certain thing out now justin Bieber, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: for his first single was the ex first thing. No,
Speaker 1: that was not. It wasn't. I was wrong, Okay, but
Speaker 1: I'm glad you feel like it is. I feel like
Speaker 1: that first birth to you. I feel like you birth.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the prop scream. Just roll with it, okay,
Speaker 1: before you before we just this is tyger ball, This
Speaker 1: is spoiled soyl sauce, this is any nothing was supposed
Speaker 1: to be drinking right now, This is it's a tradition
Speaker 1: with the show this go go with my ox and
Speaker 1: code on because on I don't think nothing here goes
Speaker 1: with Well, let's try, let's see what happens. Go hold on.
Speaker 1: We got to toast the seth and when you toast
Speaker 1: all night tonight we are celebrating the dream. We respect you.
Speaker 1: You all actually first R and beast by itself because
Speaker 1: we did have Drew Hill right, but they came there.
Speaker 1: It was and that was Hill. It was corrupted, dads.
Speaker 1: We had the last episode to throw Drew Hill and
Speaker 1: it was awkward, but we made it work. But we
Speaker 1: made it work. But tonight we are saluting who I
Speaker 1: consider new R and g King R and listen, I
Speaker 1: consider him the king. I consider them the person that
Speaker 1: shape and move with music sound like today, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna salute that tonight. Let's make some noise to take it.
Speaker 1: He just died. It's hardy did that go? He You're
Speaker 1: gonna write seven songs and now now we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to and then you go back to Jessie. You
Speaker 1: want back after that. That's some country shipped right here.
Speaker 1: This is a fucking Grits. I'm never like that good
Speaker 1: with pancakes. Let's go good with grits. I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: What did Ambarro say? It takes late? She said, be
Speaker 1: stairs on sa pepper stand girl Like, if that don't
Speaker 1: take later on, we're gonna build up to it. So
Speaker 1: who was your funnest sessions? Have the first see with
Speaker 1: my sexual reaction is first, you gotta gotta go through it.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite session you ever had? Like you
Speaker 1: just walked in and everything was perfect, whether they be
Speaker 1: you producing right in all your own sessions? Oh man,
Speaker 1: the favorite session I walked in was the no Church
Speaker 1: in the Wild session Church. Yeah, that's my favorite s
Speaker 1: No Church. That's the one with Frank Ocean No, No,
Speaker 1: he wrote his own part um. But that was the
Speaker 1: That was the best one that because that was based
Speaker 1: off if you don't know the backstory now, at the time,
Speaker 1: I couldn't say with the fact story was because it's
Speaker 1: a huge deal for what was happening. But at the
Speaker 1: at the time, um Jay and Kanye were finishing up
Speaker 1: watched The Throne and we were listening to it in
Speaker 1: Paris and you know it easy there. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: kind of threw a monkey rench in that. Um I
Speaker 1: came home because I felt like they had the album
Speaker 1: and they were kind of done with you know what
Speaker 1: it was, And I wrote Holy Grail at the time
Speaker 1: and sending it back to Jake Ye. So I said
Speaker 1: said that back to Jay as they're finishing up, because
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get ahead and just start working
Speaker 1: on what his next ship was. I knew our stones
Speaker 1: Over was with justin timber Lake, right, that was a
Speaker 1: that was okay, okay, okay um, So I said to
Speaker 1: the record Jay, he's in back, yoh man, that's my
Speaker 1: first single named my album That ball balls Like, all right,
Speaker 1: cool beat, let me know when it's time to cut.
Speaker 1: I'm in Newport Beach, California. I got a nice boat
Speaker 1: out there. It feels good. I'm about there writing some ship.
Speaker 1: I feel lovely phones blowing up. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fun they want on the East Coast. I'm on
Speaker 1: the Sun's and I'm like, nah, dog, ain't got time
Speaker 1: for it right now. I get a call from my
Speaker 1: good friend Shack Gurse. Shaka calls me, I need you
Speaker 1: at the mercer in New York right now. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: we think I'm gonna play golf A six am so
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm gonna just stay right here. I'm having
Speaker 1: a good time office, make some more. That's that's a movie.
Speaker 1: Get So I don't want to leave, of course, my boogey.
Speaker 1: So so I'm asking what the deal is. She won't
Speaker 1: tell me over the phone, like what's going on? So
Speaker 1: I kind of get a little sideways idea about what's
Speaker 1: going on. It's like Yo J played Kanye Holy Grail
Speaker 1: and asked me to put on wash the Throne. He
Speaker 1: was like, nah, good, I'm gonna keep this old my album.
Speaker 1: You said we was doing the album you know x
Speaker 1: y Z. And so what happened from that is, of
Speaker 1: course I flew into you know, I flew into New
Speaker 1: York and and the main thing was, oh, we need
Speaker 1: you to write another Holy Grill. And Jay's like yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna go out to the trunk and get one
Speaker 1: out the trunk and just bringing upstairs for us, and
Speaker 1: even me, as as confident as I am, I was
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing, like, yeah, this ship ain't just
Speaker 1: in my back pocket, Like that's that's that's the one
Speaker 1: that done right there? You want to go back to Westcope.
Speaker 1: So um, short and long story short, I went in
Speaker 1: he was working on No Church In a While. Call
Speaker 1: you was like, Yo, I need you to put something
Speaker 1: on this record. I went in the next room blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. Didn't think nothing of it,
Speaker 1: and me Ja and Leonardo DiCaprio at that time went went, um,
Speaker 1: what's life. It's just I'm sorry that the sides. I'm
Speaker 1: going to grab something to even I never heard about
Speaker 1: the Rector again as I put something on No Church
Speaker 1: in a While at that time, and I get a
Speaker 1: phone call like months later, and Shocking is on the
Speaker 1: phones like, yeah, so you're gonna watch the Throne. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, you're talking about Jay Ship. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not. Don't watch the Thrones, Like, but I just
Speaker 1: did listening in New York. You don't watch the Thrones?
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm not, Like no, j just recited Joejo
Speaker 1: verse on No Church in a While. You're definitely on
Speaker 1: watch the Thrones. Like what is he talking about? I
Speaker 1: have a guy that I did this piece of the
Speaker 1: song that Kanye ended up keeping. Just do it and
Speaker 1: forget about it. Um. So initially it wasn't even credit
Speaker 1: on there, like four, It was just it was just
Speaker 1: this part, you know that because everybody was thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing, like no, that's just Kanya and j and
Speaker 1: frank ochan and then you know later on course put
Speaker 1: it together. But that was the best session I walked
Speaker 1: into because it took me about maybe six minutes to
Speaker 1: do that part and I gotta Grammy four. So it's
Speaker 1: like you said, again, six minutes and the Grammy dig
Speaker 1: so the best six minutes, like a good list. I
Speaker 1: spent so much time on the wrong taking all your
Speaker 1: job six minutes, you take all your taking all and
Speaker 1: when he first picking hilarious. No, that's why that's the
Speaker 1: best session in my lifetime to date. It was just
Speaker 1: so easy time to make out over there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh cool, we did it, Like this is great. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. Come on, what's like a the
Speaker 1: Caprio doing in that? Probably had no idea? Who the funk?
Speaker 1: I was like, he just get your high fight, Yeah,
Speaker 1: good buddy, James guy. I guess nah, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: He'd be surprised. They know who you are doing. I'm
Speaker 1: trying be humble, but are you on drink chance? We
Speaker 1: don't get to be not humble for you? We be
Speaker 1: you up all that. This is what we do over here.
Speaker 1: Other we we like to respect our artists. We look
Speaker 1: at our artists like the superheroes, and we want the
Speaker 1: world to look at look at all artists like superheroes.
Speaker 1: That's true what we do. We sacrifice our life every day.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't stop being an artists. You always
Speaker 1: being an artist every time. So let me ask you.
Speaker 1: With that being said, you have an experience of writing
Speaker 1: and producing. You produced too as well, actually make the
Speaker 1: bj and an artists if you had a chance to
Speaker 1: do it all a little, what's your experience now? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: all the experience. Now you're working with everybody from everybody's everybody,
Speaker 1: and you had a test to do it all, and
Speaker 1: you can pick one writing or like or no, no,
Speaker 1: writing or being an artist? What would you pick? What's
Speaker 1: your biggest high? Writing? Writing more? Didn't be in front
Speaker 1: expressing your own right, No, no, because writing just touches
Speaker 1: more people like. It's like, despite a web of effective
Speaker 1: when you're artists, everything is mostly singular. You have the
Speaker 1: ideas you this is what people think of you, and
Speaker 1: this is how it's just gonna sound when it comes out.
Speaker 1: It's based on you right when I'm writing, I get
Speaker 1: to be Selene one day and I get to be
Speaker 1: somebody else. You know the morpho just said you said
Speaker 1: he could be seleneon yea right, and he didn't even
Speaker 1: hit up with the dion. That's how you know, you know,
Speaker 1: let's make a noise. I don't forget to be and
Speaker 1: now now, so how do you write for Justin b?
Speaker 1: But how do you? How do you because he's a
Speaker 1: kid at the time. Correct, he's kidding his baby baby
Speaker 1: right right, baby? Yeah, my son playing that record so much.
Speaker 1: I probably know the record more than them. So how
Speaker 1: do you get in? That's on like? Because that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's the psycho part. It was. The record
Speaker 1: was actually record, but it was appropriate for the youth,
Speaker 1: like how could you balance that to be weird? I
Speaker 1: was just trying to figure out how to talk to
Speaker 1: and not figure out. I remember how to talk to
Speaker 1: a girl when I was sixteen. So it was just
Speaker 1: about saying something that I felt like he needed to
Speaker 1: say to be cool and what like. Because there's a
Speaker 1: point where, you know, especially a young accident, they don't
Speaker 1: think about you have to sing this song or if
Speaker 1: you can't do a version of this song ten years
Speaker 1: from that point. And I try to think about that
Speaker 1: when I'm working with with with younger with younger artists,
Speaker 1: like yo, yeah, you're you're eighteen sixteen, but you need
Speaker 1: to be able to sing this song to that audience
Speaker 1: that's gonna grow with you when you're twenty seven. You
Speaker 1: don't need to be the lame superstar at that age
Speaker 1: you can't identify with but you could go back and
Speaker 1: think about yourself at that age and identify with it.
Speaker 1: And so that's the psycho part. So that's a whole
Speaker 1: other that's a blessed that that can be unraveled. That's
Speaker 1: just something that I have, you know, in jumping into
Speaker 1: different spaces times and moments and like even to be
Speaker 1: pushing and like just like okay, let's go like or
Speaker 1: or or even rap battling with j On on on
Speaker 1: text like that's a you know, that's just a whole
Speaker 1: other thing, you know. But I get to beat those
Speaker 1: people and be in that place, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: like why why I love it so much? Right and
Speaker 1: Jay text is funny to hit you with three lines
Speaker 1: and that space, I'll be like, y'all he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna knock all my ship out. Said you don't take me,
Speaker 1: you don't work. I'll be like, this is a rich text.
Speaker 1: I always saw cocon Every time you can talk like
Speaker 1: this is rich text, I'll be having to decipherate. It's
Speaker 1: just not it's just it's really really explain what it's
Speaker 1: like a couple of lines and they've got spaces space
Speaker 1: like then it's more lines than the space. Like it's
Speaker 1: like three conversations. So he will give you like four
Speaker 1: days to answer the questions. This ship. Don't hit me
Speaker 1: the next you know, it's ill. I just want to
Speaker 1: look up. It's like he answered everything. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was down, I was out. So now actually a bunch
Speaker 1: of best studio session or your favorite studio session. Now
Speaker 1: we know I gotta go there. What was your worst?
Speaker 1: Oh man, the whole back Oh man, this wasn't a
Speaker 1: studio session, but the worst with a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and you're the worst experience, oh ship. Man. Rio was
Speaker 1: on tour and were just cutting her whole album at
Speaker 1: this particular time, whole album cutting recording people, what that
Speaker 1: Oka was bixing recording. So literally after the concert we
Speaker 1: would go backstage and cut records. She would stay in
Speaker 1: the venue. We would cut records in the venue. That's
Speaker 1: hard up and coming artists out there that thinking this
Speaker 1: ship is easy? Did you hear what he just said?
Speaker 1: After she performed, they were in the back and recorded
Speaker 1: the record and go. That's dedication because me, I thought,
Speaker 1: get on stage, I'm going to sleep. I'm going to sleep.
Speaker 1: So so in return, God decided to uh figure out
Speaker 1: how boogee and weak I had gotten at this particular
Speaker 1: point in my life because at this time, like damn,
Speaker 1: a lot of zeros in my bank account, Like I
Speaker 1: feel good, you need the world, I want to go.
Speaker 1: And then you find yourself on to one of your
Speaker 1: great friends in the middle of fucking Europe, and you're like,
Speaker 1: where are my staying? Man? If you ever stay, you
Speaker 1: stayed at the plasm Man Manhattan, and you know, you
Speaker 1: go from ship like that, You're like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I got out there on the road. Man, we got
Speaker 1: in this fucking hotel, motel. I don't need this. She's
Speaker 1: just to tell it wasn't even the more. It's just
Speaker 1: a tell, tell, don't tell. No man, I got in
Speaker 1: this bom I opened up the door. Man, slowing back
Speaker 1: to me coming It was half of a twin size
Speaker 1: there and the heating was at the bottom, so they're
Speaker 1: trying to bury ass up into bat Like, so do
Speaker 1: I cut that on or do what? Man? I sleep
Speaker 1: all the clothes on and had all all the face
Speaker 1: cover it up. You've been through and I've been through that, man,
Speaker 1: man man I sweat man. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't turn into a little bit. I used to
Speaker 1: be the used to be that at letter NIG. I
Speaker 1: was like, we don't give a fun, put me anywhere,
Speaker 1: and then go the next morning like look, boom, hey,
Speaker 1: I need you, yell, need you get me a hotel
Speaker 1: room to this and you know she couldn't neck the
Speaker 1: next one. One city over, what was the City Bay
Speaker 1: in Newcastle? The next city over, that's where the continue.
Speaker 1: We got to that spot next after we did a
Speaker 1: show somewhere else before that, and there was two tubs
Speaker 1: in my bath tobar room, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're back, pitch back. I'm sorry you listen when I'll
Speaker 1: I'll tell you two hotel stories. When I was coming up,
Speaker 1: we all there was no hotels. It was sold out.
Speaker 1: It's probably like one of them freaking type of things.
Speaker 1: So we went to one hotel. It was the only
Speaker 1: hotel and we walked in and it was roaches in
Speaker 1: the hotel and so as hood as he was, it
Speaker 1: was like we gotta late. Right how it was from
Speaker 1: the project, so it was enough. How big were there.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna even lie to you. I just grind.
Speaker 1: I just left. I was just like, I just can't
Speaker 1: do it. We're getting a little money at the side
Speaker 1: of me and going on over there. So m we
Speaker 1: gold outstairs. We got all our clothes on. That's why
Speaker 1: it reminded me of the story. Put all our tolings, like,
Speaker 1: I ain't even but we still had the shower. It
Speaker 1: was enough. We had no to know, so we had
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, wake up, take the shower, and
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Bro just left in the morning, but
Speaker 1: at night it was that it was the block. It
Speaker 1: was day block. We had to give it to him, right.
Speaker 1: That was one story. Now we're getting money. I'm getting
Speaker 1: money and a promoter. This is my man eating. We're
Speaker 1: in Paris and he tries to show me. He's like,
Speaker 1: I want to show you, dal By, why didn't do
Speaker 1: that ship? But why don't do that ship wanted me
Speaker 1: to cut you up here. I don't haven't see the
Speaker 1: real Donna see ship about the real net like, ain't
Speaker 1: come out lant, I won't show you real and no
Speaker 1: he just listen, don't leave out the three three to seven.
Speaker 1: He good, you know, fun up the hotel. But it
Speaker 1: was Paris, it was culture. This was at the time.
Speaker 1: I walked in and you know, I used the bathroom
Speaker 1: and I heard Butch rob but I knew I was
Speaker 1: on seven. He was on DJ DJ. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: the hell I hear so I'm us in the bathroom
Speaker 1: like your Butch know. I was sick too called to promote.
Speaker 1: I said, this is the past, so I want to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I went through too much. I was, I've been through
Speaker 1: too much. He said that ship morning, you felt your
Speaker 1: tolly flush in that same time, this one flush for
Speaker 1: the whole mild feel I'm gonna turn every each time.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this doesn't mean nothing at
Speaker 1: this moment. Now now, I mean I'm crazy, I get
Speaker 1: hit and then it's crazy. Any time when they played music,
Speaker 1: it is like I was dead when I was out.
Speaker 1: But this is the same we went through the clus
Speaker 1: me I didn't. I didn't think I went through the
Speaker 1: ground already been in the ground. O good, I woke up,
Speaker 1: went to school. Damn bodies a creek like, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I was done past. I was passed the ground part.
Speaker 1: And it was just one of those realizations like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of great ship going on. I
Speaker 1: need you to remember where the funk you came from.
Speaker 1: There was just one of those days, and I remember
Speaker 1: that now. I stayed in a luxury sweet today to day.
Speaker 1: You know I was back. I was fine, not in
Speaker 1: my mind. I don't want to see the real nothing
Speaker 1: of nothing like nos just you've already done that even
Speaker 1: when you're there. You don't want to see the real
Speaker 1: ship like I want to see this ship. We grew
Speaker 1: out of that, we grew out of It's like, have
Speaker 1: you epp up? Like met Michael Jackson. No crazy story
Speaker 1: I got for you? Motherfucker's that I got crazy? See
Speaker 1: do a shot before crazy or after? Hold on what
Speaker 1: we've been doing? A shot up? I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's on you. You can do the right couple. You
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. We got a ship at
Speaker 1: that we don't want to do it. Very about to
Speaker 1: do that. Everybody always, everybody need everybody to do that.
Speaker 1: Everybody got do line no, no, no cocaine, that's only message.
Speaker 1: That's when the couple's you do that a little okay, cocagne, Dre,
Speaker 1: you passed me, come back, You're killing that. I can't
Speaker 1: wait a little too lud. Oh my god, can't we
Speaker 1: miam me. I know the dogar's coach right now, drink
Speaker 1: clad Let's do this all the paw the to him.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna forget the story, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what was the story. Let's not forget Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, cocaine read he never met him, but he
Speaker 1: met him. Oh, it's it like the way I think
Speaker 1: I need to Michael Jackson. Yeah, yeah, I need this
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's story. It's terrible. Now you're drinking Champagne's champagne
Speaker 1: to wash it down. What's this blue pill? Let me know? Yes,
Speaker 1: that helps get the get your sciences right? Yeah, sting
Speaker 1: for the lines. Saw him in Atlanta. Mike is working.
Speaker 1: I started I'm making I May Love Hate in um
Speaker 1: studio in Vegas at the Palms at the time when
Speaker 1: the poems coping and I had a certain type of
Speaker 1: magic there. But Michael Jackson was working in the same studio.
Speaker 1: You know, some people knew, some people didn't or whatever.
Speaker 1: Good friend of mine's Pat Thrall is there with Michael
Speaker 1: cutting the record, just just cutting the record. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the record was. He hits us on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what that story. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the part story. So Michael hits us back
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I mean not Michael throw its us back.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, yo, bro. And if you know
Speaker 1: this guy, such a sweet guy, Yo, bro, bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: guess who the fuck is in here? You're like, well,
Speaker 1: not means so fucking Michael Jackson's and you're right now,
Speaker 1: We're like, well he work at that motherfucker's so cool
Speaker 1: like that even the FaceTime or some ship like it's like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: he's singing your ship right now listening. Oh this motherfucker
Speaker 1: Mike is in the background singing. Fuck. I'm like my
Speaker 1: new nigga. And I never got a chance to meet him,
Speaker 1: and I was so pissed. I was in Atlanta, okay,
Speaker 1: oh my god, blew my mind. I was like, hold
Speaker 1: this motherfucker's singing. First of all, that nigga, that's one
Speaker 1: ship right, No, no, no, And so like he's there
Speaker 1: dancing this ship in my mind, like you know, he's
Speaker 1: just happening out. I'm like, oh, he's doing all the
Speaker 1: ship to my ship right now. We've been to get
Speaker 1: in for that bitch, you know. But but that was
Speaker 1: one of that. That was a great Michael moment for me,
Speaker 1: even though I didn't get a chance to work with him,
Speaker 1: but that was a great one. You know, my micro story,
Speaker 1: you got a Michaels. I never knew you had a
Speaker 1: Michael story. No, I ain't ever met him. This is
Speaker 1: what happened and for real, first this super thug uh
Speaker 1: my record came out and Michael Jackson called for rel
Speaker 1: and for real made all this R and B ship
Speaker 1: for him. And maybe it's the same guy that you're
Speaker 1: talking about, because when Real called me and said, Joe,
Speaker 1: I just said a whole bunch of beasts to Michael,
Speaker 1: he called, He called us back, His manager called us
Speaker 1: back and said, I don't want this ship. I want
Speaker 1: a super duck ship. Ship said you mean for new
Speaker 1: Row was cool to me, Like, how the fund do
Speaker 1: I makeing ain't the ship. I said, well, that's why
Speaker 1: you're a good producer, and I'm not you with that
Speaker 1: one so one. So if you look at the motherfucker like, no,
Speaker 1: they don't like this type of ship. Oh no, they
Speaker 1: like it, it'd be crazy, Like yeah, it's crazy. So
Speaker 1: now how do you But now you said fun that nigger?
Speaker 1: So how how did you write that? Like what was
Speaker 1: in your mome home? That's the offensive part, Like that's
Speaker 1: just that's pure rap offense. You know that. I think
Speaker 1: that running plays for right now? Like still they're like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: we just put the melody with this shi fu everybody.
Speaker 1: Um that record wasn't the right That was the last
Speaker 1: record on the album. Actually that record, um yeah I
Speaker 1: love your girl And it was like y'll give me
Speaker 1: one more and that was the one more. But the
Speaker 1: original is is fun that nigger up? Definitely? We'll put
Speaker 1: you in that place all the time. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know when when women look how they look and they man,
Speaker 1: they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, you know,
Speaker 1: coming from that space, you know what it's like. He
Speaker 1: was like, I was just saying, man, you know that
Speaker 1: you had girls flipping on everybody in the club. I
Speaker 1: just want to throw that out there. Of course, like
Speaker 1: every time a girl was mad at they nigging in
Speaker 1: the club, they just kept ship. Came on that. It
Speaker 1: was my last I was thinking about it that way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you was putting niggers, that's it. Came
Speaker 1: on bad. You see bad in the face getting read.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh this girl, Yeah, she's just going. But
Speaker 1: all the other things that didn't come to their girls
Speaker 1: are like here and the least good good. It's just
Speaker 1: good with their girls. They're holding hands about to see
Speaker 1: the jams, trying to get the check. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: come down with your girl. Y'all just fouled in the
Speaker 1: car on the way over. Oh you sucked up. Now,
Speaker 1: makeup bag, now you that's you, you like because my
Speaker 1: my wife is a makeup artist, so you may make
Speaker 1: up that. Who was you in the zone? Because girl
Speaker 1: tell us. I think it's just about like being underswept,
Speaker 1: And it's gonna sound crazy, but it's just about that.
Speaker 1: This sounds it's just the idea that at some particular point,
Speaker 1: which is not even never sent the other day, we
Speaker 1: all are hoards for some real particular reason. Like that's
Speaker 1: just what it is. There, there's a there's a I'm
Speaker 1: going to explain there, there's something that you want and
Speaker 1: something that you're giving willing to give up. That's just
Speaker 1: life like period. You can classify a different way all
Speaker 1: you want to, but you know, there's there are certain
Speaker 1: songs that that still haven't came out where where I've
Speaker 1: used that analogy and then where we're just you know,
Speaker 1: all holes were just out here trying to get out
Speaker 1: of you know, get out of ship. But um, being
Speaker 1: pure just isn't a part of it. Like I mean
Speaker 1: the idea that of the makeup bag itself, whether it's
Speaker 1: a Chanel bag, that's bag or whatever it is, that
Speaker 1: wasn't the point. The point was what do you need
Speaker 1: me to do to make it right? Or I can't
Speaker 1: make it right? So we gotta make a choice. Put
Speaker 1: that's all it is. He was out here putting pressure
Speaker 1: on niggas. Your girl had to have a good make
Speaker 1: it always fives tax she had, she had to have
Speaker 1: a great bag, right, just extra, I mean, have a
Speaker 1: make up bag and I hate my knee just now
Speaker 1: after that ship post on this gravy on that Chris
Speaker 1: is then the type of boy I feel like a
Speaker 1: different shot. It ain't three shot time this ship. Then
Speaker 1: start call this ship gravy. When I come back to
Speaker 1: this up the rest of the week, you forget about ship.
Speaker 1: Your t a call. What's going your guys? What's going
Speaker 1: on where you're at? Hello? Hello? Oh he's not the
Speaker 1: CEO of Empire Records. Yeah, yeah, he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: So he's trying to come out here. So, um, you
Speaker 1: just announced the title of your new album, your Ali.
Speaker 1: They called that that quick. He's like, we did, yeah,
Speaker 1: one point, give me the phone backs. I've got my
Speaker 1: my notes on there, so what is the time? What
Speaker 1: is the title? And they had the title that they
Speaker 1: can call Ferris kind of the end of the love
Speaker 1: sequels of full length already made full length. Everybody's been
Speaker 1: mad at me for like six years, and I was
Speaker 1: supposed to release it. Oh yeah, your fans you got
Speaker 1: the drop and Jill, yeah, I was supposed to drop
Speaker 1: in June on two thousand and Toyo are eleven actually,
Speaker 1: and so even though it gave them like about four
Speaker 1: records and then they're just like, no nigger with that
Speaker 1: record that like you realize it's not gonna be the
Speaker 1: same record now. But but but finally I've done it
Speaker 1: and it's about it about to come out. Who's this one? Um?
Speaker 1: What you mean rock Nation or rock Nations rock Nation direct?
Speaker 1: I mean he's rocking the change. Yeah, he looked like
Speaker 1: rock Nation too. I had my roles gold shoot on.
Speaker 1: I should have my roles gold shoot the magic. But no,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did where my roles gold change the
Speaker 1: mass because you are clearly killing men. Look at it
Speaker 1: like that. No, no, no, that's good. That's okay. I
Speaker 1: love that. I couldn't keep you. I gotta stet my
Speaker 1: shoot up. It's all good, my brother. I am proud
Speaker 1: of everybody doing it. Just makes it. I saw, I
Speaker 1: saw come like you. This is why we gotta make
Speaker 1: a new word. Right, niggas like us. It's boogie right.
Speaker 1: We like to a good rest restom like that. We
Speaker 1: like to, you know, drive nice ship. But we hooked?
Speaker 1: So could we make coogee? Who's she? It's interesting? Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's call uji. We're gonna make the world up right now.
Speaker 1: I'm your team. Who know you in the team? You
Speaker 1: just got a house. That's what type of events actually
Speaker 1: fit into Hoosie. We gotta make it up right now, dreaming.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, That's what it's what we're doing
Speaker 1: right now. This is this is a collaboration. This is
Speaker 1: actually why right now I'm saying, Look, we gotta make
Speaker 1: up the meaning hoosie right, we spell jogie first because
Speaker 1: I want actually be closing Ray smater than me. I
Speaker 1: was definitely and he's spelling and tea. I was in
Speaker 1: the same English class spelling it. You gotta go whosi
Speaker 1: who is it? H And he's spelling it's it goes
Speaker 1: wherever you want to go. Let's play you in it.
Speaker 1: So let's go h you eat h you haveinitely. We
Speaker 1: gotta show with specs about like coming you okay? Huge?
Speaker 1: So what's hood? And he path from though and color
Speaker 1: and color and gotta because he's hit pop coming on
Speaker 1: the phone. He was the first come here, the first
Speaker 1: rapp ever, he got the first rap video ever, heals
Speaker 1: rap rap video ever. Even though it's been the rap plan,
Speaker 1: it was hip hop nigga thinking about I think you
Speaker 1: just stay h h old j that's too close to
Speaker 1: Hooters and who's your Yeah, that's going to hood, that's true,
Speaker 1: but whole that's a new version of hood. We just
Speaker 1: said we've been the past. It's a nigga saying already
Speaker 1: so beautiful, man, we're making up English. Oh you never know.
Speaker 1: We can make up this word and two hundred years
Speaker 1: from now this could be the No. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the guaranteed word. Yeah, exactly. Think it's ain't you easy?
Speaker 1: You are? Ain't you easy? Like? Whois you? E z you?
Speaker 1: You made it like an you made it like a
Speaker 1: foreign Definitely go too on the T shirt. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna work. How do you know it isn't two different
Speaker 1: spellings or not. None of the bees man, that's all.
Speaker 1: Actually appreciate the DJ as an artist. Stupid. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: your freed to like you. If you're making a shirt,
Speaker 1: it would look ill. Dude, who wosy just got a trademark?
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Okay, I gotta first. Okay, damn, we're
Speaker 1: my fault. All right? Cool? You got you got guys?
Speaker 1: What hue that guy got c U I whogi isog?
Speaker 1: And it could be a closer line to That's that's
Speaker 1: my point. You gotta let's good point. Crazy this is
Speaker 1: a corporation. Then we we just did we just did it.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. I did it listen doing my
Speaker 1: version let that ship in the song. That's because this
Speaker 1: is an old school story from Drake sa and the
Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't agree with my story right now,
Speaker 1: I have to bring it up. I have to figure
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go take a bath and break right now. No,
Speaker 1: you still gotta stay right here. This is my man.
Speaker 1: I'm petty as where's your man? I'm petty as hell.
Speaker 1: I admit I'm petty right, and it's better not be
Speaker 1: then it's going in. It's going stupid, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the thought song. Yes, before he tells
Speaker 1: us you would tell a story, how about that? I
Speaker 1: don't tells it wrong, but I'll tell you about he
Speaker 1: tells us. He always kills it. He gets it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's a good he tell here's the basics of the story.
Speaker 1: He's dating a girl. I mean, yes, but the way
Speaker 1: do you tell it? But he just didn't. He's dating
Speaker 1: the girl. I can't believe the services now. No, we
Speaker 1: gotta bring back old ship. Sometimes it's just because this
Speaker 1: is drink the fans want. He's jager girl, all right,
Speaker 1: So the girl. She would take a shot for ye. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's porter shot first. I'm gonna get then drink it afterwards.
Speaker 1: Rits to go with us with you, I want you to.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if he's petty or not.
Speaker 1: I know I'm petty. But before you tell him that,
Speaker 1: I hadn't tell my version, say a version first. Let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to person. I want to tell you version
Speaker 1: so I can show how you funk up my person. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, listen, all right, I'm just making the shortest version.
Speaker 1: After he's dating the girl, she goes to the thong
Speaker 1: song video, he cuts off. She went the big pippin first.
Speaker 1: All this sound, there's stacy. He said, they're right chronic okay,
Speaker 1: artists video. The chronological version is wrong. The only reason
Speaker 1: why he cut it off because she went to it, okay, wrong, terrible.
Speaker 1: I had a girl, he's patty. Just say you go that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me tell them. Are you going about my version?
Speaker 1: I want you to have my version? Is this my girl?
Speaker 1: She's a spire love he killed. She's an inspire model,
Speaker 1: she wants, and then she tells she's an aspiring model. Yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: and she starts getting She tells me, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: doing video gigs. I'm inspire, I'm a DJ spiring, I'm
Speaker 1: a DJ, I'm working, I'm doing my thing. You know,
Speaker 1: we're going down. I see what's happening. What did you
Speaker 1: mean on filmer in the world of music period? I
Speaker 1: see I've been on video sets, So I said, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But already at that point we are.
Speaker 1: We are, We're going to part period. That's how you do,
Speaker 1: That's how you because because gonna tell you right now
Speaker 1: when I say to her, you go pursue your your dreams.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. Then it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: that easy if we weren't already going apart. So she
Speaker 1: goes and I'm like, I'm not gonna be with it.
Speaker 1: It's your first video. Do together. Let's do it together,
Speaker 1: because I want to know the first video that you
Speaker 1: said it's a it was it was like something. It
Speaker 1: was ship, it was like that, it was it was real.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Okay, let's go I went down
Speaker 1: the round. Let me relax this no, no, no, it
Speaker 1: was some more champagne that we get him over. We
Speaker 1: got some rocks of Ultra Preum vodka, the best of
Speaker 1: all on the planet. I'm gonna around and throw up
Speaker 1: on the strip of amazing that that so go ahead
Speaker 1: video can keep it real, Like Okay, don't die. Then
Speaker 1: we're down the wrong pipe. So h we just broke up,
Speaker 1: break up where he's wrong. He keeps saying that's it's
Speaker 1: just eventuating the wrong bullshit. We broke up. But immediately
Speaker 1: when we broke up, this is immediate six stape DJ Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest mixtape DJ Miami. I go the Dong song.
Speaker 1: I think it's the thoughts on remix. I'm not really
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Oh rimon. I got they invited me over there.
Speaker 1: They said, yo, come get freestyle from Red and Matt.
Speaker 1: I'm in the tent that far sponsor the tent I'm getting.
Speaker 1: I got my four track and then I see my
Speaker 1: I was getting there. Just this is the reality that
Speaker 1: you need evidence. You heard my story. This is the reality.
Speaker 1: So we just broke up with it's fresh like like
Speaker 1: like like nine days ago. Damn, this is really the
Speaker 1: cook The cut is still. She's in the Throng song
Speaker 1: video like like you said, but I didn't stop there.
Speaker 1: This is ship and the next video was big. She
Speaker 1: was doing to do this telling video cup with nosing
Speaker 1: them too. Oh, that was one of the worst ones.
Speaker 1: She was inspiration. The cozy is took go down. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he took. So you're like an artist DJ. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's a DJ that he's sitting around seeing what the
Speaker 1: artists do when the artist is wow, because a arts
Speaker 1: ain't wow. He said, the difference between your story my
Speaker 1: story isn't I saw that come. No disrespect to her,
Speaker 1: but I said I can't handle that, like do you
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do me and I'm not telling you that
Speaker 1: she went wild like I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: the facts. That's the whole point. I'm just saying, I
Speaker 1: can't handle that. This is I can't held her be
Speaker 1: in the video she was like that, like I know,
Speaker 1: is she working? Okay, that's a great story. But it's
Speaker 1: a great story. I'm understand. But why can't you hand
Speaker 1: because I don't want you to fris this story? But
Speaker 1: this is gonna actually drink? Is he drank? I think
Speaker 1: this is DrAk with me with me? He loves you, Patty?
Speaker 1: Is he is he he got? Don't you think I'm
Speaker 1: Patty for one second, please dream you can be honest.
Speaker 1: This is an honest show. This is an honest show.
Speaker 1: Think of the reality of what I'm talking about. I
Speaker 1: just think that he wasn't willing to outfunk somebody for
Speaker 1: its girl. It's very different respected I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I was a kid. You still got not the funk.
Speaker 1: I'm learning, Okay, I didn't. Okay, you're right A look
Speaker 1: at it like looking whatever you're coming home tonight. I
Speaker 1: bet that coming home to what a kid I'm put
Speaker 1: My mom was older you now before, don't tell what
Speaker 1: I'm at the time. Eighteen seven team man, he you do?
Speaker 1: That was Hennessy Dings. I'm a kid at the top,
Speaker 1: man behind spins authority in my car and my pack.
Speaker 1: You want to react to that situation. You're coming up
Speaker 1: teach and your girl want to go to the dogs
Speaker 1: so on video? Then she wouldn't do Big Pemby wildly.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're number one. If you're really think that,
Speaker 1: you would have in my position and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you got a right dream. I'm not picking up, you're
Speaker 1: not packing your who know what you're doing? You're getting
Speaker 1: the dogs on video? Shoot together? Yeah? Together? Let me together.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm working out. I'm going to work them out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go then go ahead that trip for that,
Speaker 1: I got free stuff that ship that honestly for this
Speaker 1: different Could you could you deal with a could you
Speaker 1: deal with something like that with I think I could? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I could. But you weren't doing what I
Speaker 1: was doing. I'm saying the difference is I'm a DJ
Speaker 1: and I'm there and I'm doing what I was doing
Speaker 1: my work. She's gonna do her work. I'm not there
Speaker 1: watching her and enjoying the different body. If I would have,
Speaker 1: damn you what Dame Dass? Listen, Dave Dass, poor dad, Stop,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't be I don't understay wait, Dave dash On,
Speaker 1: She wasn't. It was you know what? Actually a fan show?
Speaker 1: Were just good enough and that wasn't my girl? What
Speaker 1: you doing? Dream? Your girl can't roll? You see this
Speaker 1: is no Instagram but still Nigga's no name was like that, bib.
Speaker 1: I'm just what, could you can handle that? No? Angles
Speaker 1: I can't after that too, But I know that makes
Speaker 1: me petty. That's a difference between me and him. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't handle it. I'm on your side. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's petty because you didn't know she did, not
Speaker 1: just because she's at a rap music video. That petty.
Speaker 1: If your petty is that I broke up, like I
Speaker 1: think my patty would start waiting before that for my
Speaker 1: petty was like or some minute like I'm good, like
Speaker 1: I don't give a fun like fun. Well, I can't
Speaker 1: control people. Fucking just people every just bust on a
Speaker 1: cool boy and ship. Just just clean yourself, clean you
Speaker 1: suf hang you know further ward, Like I said, my petty,
Speaker 1: this will start earlier. And the idea that oh I
Speaker 1: gave up with you year out of my league from
Speaker 1: the beginning. She was never out of my league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you she definitely was not would dream on this.
Speaker 1: But maybe she was a triple A went bro, but
Speaker 1: you got that bro. I don't know where we went,
Speaker 1: but this is a trip. It's like triple A baseball. Okay,
Speaker 1: She's like, that's what happened. Don't you start adding I
Speaker 1: am prom he's still, he said, because that was the
Speaker 1: petty s you just say, I'll take let me if
Speaker 1: anybody in this room don't think y'all petty, right, I'm
Speaker 1: not petty, but I'm just saying, if you ever looked
Speaker 1: at somebody, you ever like, what's what, what's cool? What?
Speaker 1: You looked at the Graham just to make sure they're
Speaker 1: doing good, not doing not doing good? Horrible? That means
Speaker 1: you petty. Like if you was cool with somebody and
Speaker 1: then you stopped working with him, and you stopped working
Speaker 1: with each other, and then somehow they're Graham, you know,
Speaker 1: tag you and you just look on that they still
Speaker 1: on the block. I'm gonna tell yall something, because everybody
Speaker 1: has somebody, but they look at the ship just to
Speaker 1: make sure they still fuck You know, that's a great
Speaker 1: that's a great, great panty. That's a great, great fucking pity.
Speaker 1: And Yoki Yo Gotti's the song love the fucking death
Speaker 1: shout out to motherfucker, Yo, motherfucker right now he's on
Speaker 1: fucking fire, this motherfucker says. Yo Gotti says, um My
Speaker 1: ex cheated on me. Now she working double shifts, petty
Speaker 1: as funk I love it again his egg cheated on
Speaker 1: him now she was working double ships like so she
Speaker 1: got in the lame the can't work more like, oh
Speaker 1: I'm not working. Do you ever go on your gram
Speaker 1: and just look and make sure she's still doing the
Speaker 1: thunks on video. She's not. Because he's a family. Woman's
Speaker 1: a family she got, she got. I was worried because
Speaker 1: she's a family woman. I was like that she's gonna
Speaker 1: hear this ship. It wasn't not too long ago. What's
Speaker 1: her name never said that you never dream good like
Speaker 1: a you're talking ship? And did you go through a hit?
Speaker 1: Can't you hear me? Never? It was in my mind,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm on heart side. I felt like
Speaker 1: she was a good girl, just trying to go work.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt she was good. That's why she
Speaker 1: worked too much. But yeah, you got videos and Black Packers,
Speaker 1: it's a Miami group. Actually, yeah, that's why the story
Speaker 1: gets ill right when he was done a hundred episodes
Speaker 1: right of this ship? Right and this is probably like
Speaker 1: twenty right, Okay, but here's why the story gets I
Speaker 1: don't know where you because you too get out on
Speaker 1: pop because I didn't take it out. The girl went
Speaker 1: to a hip hop video song was like a hip
Speaker 1: hop but the only person you had proof of her
Speaker 1: dating was Bell Bib the phone uh one of the
Speaker 1: most now all three he goes up. That was I
Speaker 1: call I'm sorry, which one of the niggas was actually,
Speaker 1: actually you're Anny Bobby ricking of mind. I remember the
Speaker 1: skinny long dude, so actually that you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what's funny? Sorry, sorry, The funny thing is that
Speaker 1: that was the first thing that happened, but that you've
Speaker 1: seen the actually broke and then I went bell baby,
Speaker 1: the more new audition, because that's that's new edition. They
Speaker 1: come but it's different. Errors starting now come up, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not battl so it's bellas. This just should have
Speaker 1: been fucking diet never read. I'm sorry you're saying stay
Speaker 1: away from that to the car and you know I'm
Speaker 1: not in V people, But who do I see m
Speaker 1: P people? Ex girl with one of those dudes, Ronny.
Speaker 1: I think it was Ronnie. You know what? I just
Speaker 1: actually I think I I got I got to I
Speaker 1: solved it. So it wasn't petty. It wasn't petty. But
Speaker 1: what you did it was emotional, definitely, dream don't it
Speaker 1: was your petty. It wasn't your pet she wouldn't you
Speaker 1: go see all the hip hopters? You got emotional. You're like,
Speaker 1: I ain't listen Okay, now just people dreams. I hear
Speaker 1: he said it wasn't petty after he found out it
Speaker 1: was an arm beating niggers. Arm racing is national West.
Speaker 1: I respect you dream that was. It was emotional. It
Speaker 1: wasn't petty, like it's hip hop. You know, it's the
Speaker 1: coach and he lost something to the culture. We all
Speaker 1: do everything. I didn't lose too. The coach sott, Petty,
Speaker 1: if you have became a Republican right after that, how
Speaker 1: are you gonna shot that's Patty ship. That's Patty Ship.
Speaker 1: Oh you went to eighty hunter, but that I didn't
Speaker 1: go to the club showing the after we broken. And
Speaker 1: that's like you reminded me right now that and I
Speaker 1: look up at the fIF and she's like, rody, I like,
Speaker 1: And then after that was actually the throng song. And
Speaker 1: then after that was what you wanted. And then that
Speaker 1: I was like what you wanted the throng song A
Speaker 1: big pippe. We gotta talk. You gotta being on a
Speaker 1: little biggin like we gotta should heard this story. Back
Speaker 1: then I would have wrote the shout this song. You
Speaker 1: write the song now that's too old. Now that that
Speaker 1: has a great song it's amazing. Right now, we're gonna
Speaker 1: make a country song. All your albums, right when all
Speaker 1: your albums, what was the most one to you that
Speaker 1: meant the most? Wow, the first one love hate Me
Speaker 1: meant the most? Why is that it was first? It
Speaker 1: was first introduced people to me. I was blessed enough
Speaker 1: for people to hear and make my mind up because
Speaker 1: at that time it wasn't about me being an artist
Speaker 1: and want to say, hey man, look at me. It
Speaker 1: was it was a design. It was a design play
Speaker 1: to put my music um on showcase. So it was
Speaker 1: it was the idea overall was as a writer, even
Speaker 1: though you get a record over here, you get a
Speaker 1: record over there, like that's cool, But how are they
Speaker 1: gonna know that you do other ships? How they're gonna
Speaker 1: know how deep? You know it goes because want somebody
Speaker 1: to get something from you. You know, motherfucker want to
Speaker 1: umbrella every time, like you know. So I was able
Speaker 1: to be the canvas for my own art and that's
Speaker 1: what it was about, right that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy ship is what you just said. Is
Speaker 1: the curse about having a hit record is everybody kind
Speaker 1: of want to imitate that record the most, which is
Speaker 1: one of the most records that you wrote produced been
Speaker 1: a part of that. People just kept coming to you
Speaker 1: and it became annoying. Like I remember seeing Pharrell at
Speaker 1: one time and um, we had, uh, what's the record homeboy?
Speaker 1: I came to party. He had to tell me. It
Speaker 1: was like, y'all, I'm tired of everybody telling me to
Speaker 1: give them that same record that I gave you. Nori.
Speaker 1: I think records are production based when they come to that, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think people was more so asking me for
Speaker 1: the same song because at that time I had written
Speaker 1: so many different ones. Yeah. Yeah, so the tracks was,
Speaker 1: you know, never really stayed the same. There was those
Speaker 1: are changing. My lyrics was changing based on the emotional
Speaker 1: melodies or whatever. The tone of the of the actual
Speaker 1: song was who the artist is that singing it? Um?
Speaker 1: Which was the whole other blessing to be able to
Speaker 1: give Rihana something and give be a whole separate thing,
Speaker 1: you know, that's you know, I think that was the
Speaker 1: That was the biggest part of it all because most times,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody could do a song for one person
Speaker 1: and the other song still sounds like, you know, if
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you I did unbrell in single ladies
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't put it together. It doesn't sound the same.
Speaker 1: But you're producing also as well, like like literally the
Speaker 1: how what's the percentage of what you've done that beats
Speaker 1: and lyrics? What what do you mean? Like just and
Speaker 1: you wrote the music. The most people understand writing is
Speaker 1: also the beats. The layman doesn't know that. Yeah, we know,
Speaker 1: so when you're rutting and the beats. So like Holy
Speaker 1: Girl for instance. So it was I did the track
Speaker 1: and rope the hook and then I gave it to
Speaker 1: gave it to Hop and then we brought in Timberland
Speaker 1: to to make the track what it needs to be
Speaker 1: to p Yeah, because my idea of writing is exactly
Speaker 1: what it is in the country world. Like it's you
Speaker 1: know those songs written like it's not a beat produced
Speaker 1: or is the you know, the producer usually has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the composition like itself, like it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the melodies, the top lines, the lyrics,
Speaker 1: like it has nothing to do with that. The writer
Speaker 1: can be the writer and the producer come in after that.
Speaker 1: It's like Quincy Jones, you know some of those he
Speaker 1: didn't do the track. That track ship came from hip hop, right.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. That's the thing hip hop wise.
Speaker 1: When we think about producer, we think about the beat
Speaker 1: paper he goes like this, right, and then we think
Speaker 1: about the writer. He's writing the lyrics. Right. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That the difference from you, well, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just a universe. It's it's only in this culture
Speaker 1: where we see that as to you know, two different things.
Speaker 1: For me, producer is actually what has always been. It's
Speaker 1: the motherfucker that you blame at the end when ship
Speaker 1: don't go right. He brings everything together. Yeah, so if
Speaker 1: I don't have to touch of beat, but I'll probably
Speaker 1: still the producer just because you did that ship with me.
Speaker 1: And if the ship ain't right, it's like dream suck
Speaker 1: us up, because to produce means to come up with Now.
Speaker 1: I don't care how you came up with it, come
Speaker 1: up with it ain't right now. They ain't do the
Speaker 1: track I produced it though, I'm good. I got my
Speaker 1: whole little already, but that too, But actually, where is
Speaker 1: my cred joining you got cred? And white girl, that
Speaker 1: crippy weed, creepy weed creeps, creepy weed. If you've been
Speaker 1: coming to Miami for a long time, I don't know,
Speaker 1: they're creepy. White good damn white girls and some people
Speaker 1: the old white girl on a lot of the touch chee.
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, no, where you're going, we're gonna cryptocurrency now,
Speaker 1: I got no shot. I'm trying to be trying to
Speaker 1: get better at what I do. Damn, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So when you producing joints, are you using any certain
Speaker 1: like machines. Yeah, it's an NBC. I'm still a little
Speaker 1: lower the NPC three thousand. Um. I am on logic
Speaker 1: and you don't able to knock it. I can move
Speaker 1: around anything I like to. I like to touch ship,
Speaker 1: though I don't like the idea that everything is in
Speaker 1: the computer or whatever it is, Like I'll go to
Speaker 1: a studio just because they have a big at four. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I've been playing I started playing trump in like third grade.
Speaker 1: So the whole band theory to me was just second nature,
Speaker 1: like it was just something. It was just something that
Speaker 1: we we did in high school. And then at that time,
Speaker 1: if you're in Atlanta, the cool ship wasn't to be
Speaker 1: on the basketball team and the football team. The cool
Speaker 1: ship was being the marching band because you got to
Speaker 1: show your ass at halftime. Like that was the That
Speaker 1: was literally the ship. And you at that time you
Speaker 1: had Florida marching one hundred Florida and muh, you had Jackson,
Speaker 1: you had all these you know, black colleges, and we
Speaker 1: were like putting tapes in. Me and my actually my
Speaker 1: best friend was like putting tapes in studying like what
Speaker 1: they're doing at halftime, what's the new record that's out,
Speaker 1: and being able to play that at the next football game.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was it wasn't music as a hustle.
Speaker 1: It was I was already doing it before I understood
Speaker 1: that you can make money from it. Now, one of
Speaker 1: the most things I've expected about it, I had to
Speaker 1: have hit my man Rob Mossman, oh more about Drake.
Speaker 1: So we got genius community member shying his question is
Speaker 1: what was it like working with Drake early on his
Speaker 1: career on shut it Down and by having you work
Speaker 1: together since dad is you know, shout out shout out
Speaker 1: to Draking whether he's done his career, like I said before,
Speaker 1: just sort of like a real like student of how
Speaker 1: these things go. And it's and I remember when Drake
Speaker 1: was putting this record together as getting calls at the
Speaker 1: calls at the calls like y'all get on this record,
Speaker 1: get on this record, Like, Yo, get on this record.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna do the record, man, like I'm
Speaker 1: on tour. Let I'm gonna do the record. As soon
Speaker 1: as I get took away something, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Drake called like, Yo, like this is how I wanted
Speaker 1: to sound, like Drake, I'm gonna do this. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna give it back to you
Speaker 1: the same way you sit there with your first I
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm sending back to you. Was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: no problem. And the record came out great. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you know it came came out great when
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I think when the next
Speaker 1: album came along. Since somebody wants to know why we
Speaker 1: never worked again. I asked him to get on the record,
Speaker 1: and he never got on the record. And so I'm
Speaker 1: only going to ask you once, especially if I've already
Speaker 1: done something for you. So that went through people to
Speaker 1: directulate to him, and whatever that the thing was, didn't
Speaker 1: that was it. So that's the end of the drinking
Speaker 1: dream era of a record. I mean, obviously amazing artist
Speaker 1: you are. He's a great artist for his own right. Um,
Speaker 1: collaborations are nice, and collaborations are great, and sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: just should just be great without you you. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's morals. Yeah, that's like old school morals right there.
Speaker 1: Like I've done so many records with people and then
Speaker 1: they're not reciprocated, could favor back. So it's the it's
Speaker 1: the it's the most treacherous thing that can happen. But
Speaker 1: I forgave them. Oh well of course, but so so
Speaker 1: what what was going through your mind at that moment
Speaker 1: when you Because at the end of the day, sometimes
Speaker 1: you could give a person a wave. That's what that means,
Speaker 1: Like you could be so hot yourself that when you
Speaker 1: get on their record, they can build a whole audience
Speaker 1: around your audience that you helped introduce them to. And
Speaker 1: then that person. I'm an artist, and I didn't look
Speaker 1: at that as a distance drake at all. There's no
Speaker 1: way shape form a fashion. I looked at it as
Speaker 1: a person with morals. So I mean, that's it was.
Speaker 1: I had to go to my grave with like not
Speaker 1: because it's a personal thing, just because I have to
Speaker 1: steal set an example for the ship that I say
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do, you know, like it's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of if I ain't do some ship that I
Speaker 1: was supposed to call me out, let me know, because
Speaker 1: it made it could have been I forgot it could
Speaker 1: have been you know, whatever it is. It doesn't make
Speaker 1: it right at the end of the day, because that's
Speaker 1: not where I come from. That's not how I was raised.
Speaker 1: That's not how I am, you know, Like my word
Speaker 1: is just just my word. However I need to make
Speaker 1: it up, you know, however, whatever it is that I
Speaker 1: need to do so um And at the time, I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole situation was forgiven because the ship is petty
Speaker 1: like that that would be petty, you know in a
Speaker 1: way to hold that against somebody or whatever it was
Speaker 1: going through and transforming in his own life at the time.
Speaker 1: I just I know, probably as you get older, you
Speaker 1: start to think about things a little bit different though,
Speaker 1: and say, oh ship, now I get why x y Z. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've seen each other. He's recorded at my studio and
Speaker 1: allowing and and everything like and like yo, what's up?
Speaker 1: Like it's or it's just like literally before that, but
Speaker 1: after after you knew what was what was, what was up?
Speaker 1: Like all our camps, this music business isn't that far
Speaker 1: stretch the fart where nobody doesn't know what is going on.
Speaker 1: Like everybody knows what's going on and for for whatever
Speaker 1: reasons at the end of the day. And nigs know
Speaker 1: how I am not, I'm not. I'm not a build
Speaker 1: of person. I think most things, um, if you can
Speaker 1: control them, control them. What you can't, you don't like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Just just move the funk on.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't it wasn't no no ill faded thing
Speaker 1: about that. It was more so about what my grandfather
Speaker 1: taught me. Like yo, man, he said, you gonna do something,
Speaker 1: you need to do it, and if you don't, you
Speaker 1: need to show somebody you can live without it, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's just where I am and just
Speaker 1: where I come from. That that was all you know
Speaker 1: what that said, you're the old school warms, you got
Speaker 1: the wars that and it is petty too, but listen
Speaker 1: because when somebody frount on me, I never freaking like
Speaker 1: I almost I'm just being honest. Petty, petty gang. I
Speaker 1: wait to listen. I'm I'm not I'm not really, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm more I'm not really petty, And in none of
Speaker 1: the sense of that, because people go through certain ship
Speaker 1: and everybody doesn't know what you know at the time,
Speaker 1: and everybody doesn't know what you know and how to
Speaker 1: react to what you know at that time. They haven't
Speaker 1: learned it yet. It doesn't make you grown just because
Speaker 1: you have more money than than the other person, or oh,
Speaker 1: I'm more experienced, because like, no motherfucker's I got the experience,
Speaker 1: Like I'm the motherfucker that's an a music business that
Speaker 1: didn't break till he was thirty, and they had a
Speaker 1: regular job with regular people win real traffic and ship.
Speaker 1: So when the when the bigger percentages of the artists
Speaker 1: that work in this business, who were able to drop
Speaker 1: what they did and started working into that sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, fifteen, I lost my mom and in
Speaker 1: nineteen I lost my grandfather. So the parents that raise
Speaker 1: me ain't. I had to go completely to the workforce
Speaker 1: and get here. It wasn't because I knew some niggers
Speaker 1: down the street and I got on you know, that's
Speaker 1: not I had to split that time. I had to
Speaker 1: sleep two hours a day for it for years, like
Speaker 1: only off two hours to the point now I can't
Speaker 1: even go to sleep, you know, so it's going to sleep. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I want to go to But I didn't say I
Speaker 1: didn't trying. This ship just don't work. The difference what
Speaker 1: you're saying and what I'm saying is sometimes you deal
Speaker 1: with an artist management or you deal with and that's
Speaker 1: the problem is it's different, right, and so now I
Speaker 1: can understand that point. But if I ever dealt with
Speaker 1: you directly and there was a phone call with where
Speaker 1: me and you, I do I do take it away
Speaker 1: personal more than I should have, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I don't care what are I doing?
Speaker 1: Like like if you tell me something and we have
Speaker 1: a ball, and if you don't have a ball, I
Speaker 1: don't give a fun Like I don't care if I
Speaker 1: don't have a ball, But if you give me I
Speaker 1: have a ball and you tell me something that I
Speaker 1: expect you to deliver because I'm an deliver on my part,
Speaker 1: or whatever you ask me. I'm so in love with
Speaker 1: with the idea of knowledge. I'd rather sacrifice myself and
Speaker 1: how I feel about somebody or whether I'm mad at
Speaker 1: them or not. If they were just to learn it
Speaker 1: from whatever aspect they learned it from it, just you know,
Speaker 1: wrap it back around and just say, oh cool, I
Speaker 1: learned that ship that you were saying to me or
Speaker 1: what we went through. I'm more in love with that
Speaker 1: than I am about being hasty and just denimous for
Speaker 1: no reason because it doesn't make any sense. Like, and
Speaker 1: to be in love with knowledge, it's a whole different idea,
Speaker 1: you know. But to watch another person learned something versus
Speaker 1: fighting them, like, I'd rather you just know, Like even
Speaker 1: if you did it to me and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: suck me up because we like forty fuckings, but you
Speaker 1: understand what then happened and you can go on in
Speaker 1: life and do the next ship. Because I'm blessed enough
Speaker 1: to be able to rebound after that. If I wasn't,
Speaker 1: there maybe a different story forgiving. That's blessed. That's someone
Speaker 1: to be able to do that with. Yes, killing something
Speaker 1: you got, you're still thinking about this girl right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just going out there. That's throwing it up. This
Speaker 1: is what we do, man, dream I don't know if
Speaker 1: you understand this is drinking Champce. We've been doing this.
Speaker 1: We shouldly celebrated our hundreds episodes, right, We're still We're
Speaker 1: still celebrating because you know, this is the first time
Speaker 1: people that are a part of the artist street, a
Speaker 1: part of culture, the culture you know from my DJ
Speaker 1: and mixtape DJ regular DJ to an artist and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm searching out and go on. I wanted to control
Speaker 1: all the media. I wanted to keep you know, I
Speaker 1: wanted us to support us, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: when you had, like you know, given the four four
Speaker 1: or four album and you hear um Jay talking about
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like, that's that's what the time
Speaker 1: is for. That's what the time is for. So in
Speaker 1: a in a weird way, you're doing that, like whether
Speaker 1: you was conscious or unconscious of it, I just see
Speaker 1: on the internet Google and that set your album. And
Speaker 1: I'm hopefully this is the first interview that you did.
Speaker 1: You didn't even know that, right, I mean, you won't
Speaker 1: revolte so we you. I mean, you have to provote conference,
Speaker 1: so you know, everything a run around. But this is
Speaker 1: what we do over here. But we also have fun
Speaker 1: with all this right, and we also say that so
Speaker 1: we have to actually dream, just dream, he asked, Oh
Speaker 1: of course, all right, damn answer that good question that
Speaker 1: we here, we ask we're Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, let's come
Speaker 1: over and twin Twitter come over here, because asking you
Speaker 1: the game, just asking the game. Listen, man, he had
Speaker 1: he got into an accident, but he's still out here
Speaker 1: running the things. Come on, ask him me the mike
Speaker 1: set the mic up for him. Ask Paul, this is
Speaker 1: this is this is twin Eddie to ask you. This
Speaker 1: is Eddie to ask you. The student we have we
Speaker 1: have a person on our show called Eddie to ask
Speaker 1: either and he made it today. But this twin tell him,
Speaker 1: tell m to tell him what's going on? You radio
Speaker 1: killers asks as is at the top of the day
Speaker 1: that you with your faces and ask. That's all he
Speaker 1: does that professional, so that you're a professional to tell him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta to click all that ship at the same time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying while you're eating that damn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta talk every day man, Yeah, yeah, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: it's a great can. Actually I didn't tell y'all, don't
Speaker 1: have I didn't be motherfucker's ye That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a great as. I didn't know you a professional
Speaker 1: ass either. The way you described it, you looked at
Speaker 1: him like course is a ball. Click. That's all I
Speaker 1: got that look. You just rob that. You gotta take
Speaker 1: the shot. Twitter's head come on twenty recently had an accident.
Speaker 1: He's been on drink chances this day one. We love
Speaker 1: this guy. I still got my I'm good, you got
Speaker 1: you know that's still four and you know fifty cent.
Speaker 1: Don't even drink fifty did four. I'm gonna strow that
Speaker 1: out there. We got a represent for the r B world.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there. They have some r
Speaker 1: V people, so I need eat. Asking like this ain't
Speaker 1: gonna help. No, you don't know. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: too many guys saying this at the same time. Okay,
Speaker 1: anyone else calling the hot roll up? Two more listening
Speaker 1: everybody on their car. He listens. Good. You don't like
Speaker 1: y'all trying to get me fucking drunk to listen to
Speaker 1: you gotta relax, speak y'all from the y'all cool, let's go.
Speaker 1: What's going don't know you white man, you were kind
Speaker 1: of party of this night kind of fucking party? Is
Speaker 1: this get you here right here, right here? Yo? This
Speaker 1: is what twin this right this is the dream twin
Speaker 1: man hashtag first time be dude here right here right yo.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, think it was your a little twin. We
Speaker 1: want you to know that we love you and dream.
Speaker 1: We want you to know that everything you did for
Speaker 1: this culture, every time, you're winning in me women you know,
Speaker 1: love men time. And then look, I'm gonna take this shot,
Speaker 1: and I gotta ask you. Do you killed that vah
Speaker 1: more sign? Ship? You money? Happy? Scared to doing? Hey, dog,
Speaker 1: I feel attended. That's the game, you know. I went
Speaker 1: to another showy man, I'm drunk, I'm looking. We can't
Speaker 1: drink step to your ships take dream? I'm sorry, but look,
Speaker 1: do you take the shot yet? Let's go, Let's go dream,
Speaker 1: Let's go drink ship sloo solo solo. I don't want
Speaker 1: to drink it all right, yo, not drink? Do you
Speaker 1: make love to your own ship? Oh no, that was all.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happen. It's just so bad. I
Speaker 1: just want to see if that fire shiep gonna come
Speaker 1: out of But I need not ship. It's pretty tae
Speaker 1: you know you're very you're very smart. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep up. But listen, listen. Do you make
Speaker 1: love to your own ship? Because that's a that's a
Speaker 1: real ship right there. No, I just played it. I
Speaker 1: just played um de track myself and then single on
Speaker 1: top of Oh you killed that, he killed that kill.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm trying to pet you. That wouldn't work with
Speaker 1: wrapping place. He's like, you get a real Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got just put the instrumentals and they go from love.
Speaker 1: Always said, what's your go to songs to sing? Go
Speaker 1: to songs and fancy um with Swiss stuff. Oh you
Speaker 1: know all nigger, you're not a fans in there? Got
Speaker 1: can please put me on? I just told you whoshi
Speaker 1: who we just described the Whosi? Please? I need you
Speaker 1: to play fancy now? But cool? Where were that singing
Speaker 1: for us? Please let me singing ship. We don't play
Speaker 1: music on this bapp dream we're doing that. We can't.
Speaker 1: We can't, you know, I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: hear right now. I want to play when we can't
Speaker 1: using it because yeah, yeah, come on, come expensive lake
Speaker 1: my niggers, where so I could please? Sorry that was
Speaker 1: the stall. Don't talk so rich Sacks. Let's here fast
Speaker 1: us like candle. I'm mad at you right now. I'm
Speaker 1: little head, disappoint man in myself as a dream fan.
Speaker 1: But let it, let it drop, go, let it drop first,
Speaker 1: trying at trying to try. Yeah, as a dream fan,
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. I've lived this broad. You got
Speaker 1: a spook blood so they got guys. He was guy, Okay,
Speaker 1: come listen and drinks dream trips to Monica from head
Speaker 1: to give me five man? Where keep going listen? By
Speaker 1: the way, he's about anybody the only guy that When
Speaker 1: they hit me, I said, yo, I want dreaming to
Speaker 1: the podcast, and then they said dreaming to the podcast.
Speaker 1: I said, also want dreaming to a record. You're the
Speaker 1: only thing. If we got a hundred and five episode,
Speaker 1: we had to be aired the kids the episode out
Speaker 1: five mocause you're the only thing. I gotta have a
Speaker 1: dream record. Now, how about how would you do a
Speaker 1: Noriega record? Let's just describe that, right, we got empire
Speaker 1: to build it. Let's how describe with Noriega? SA like
Speaker 1: boy want to do we gotta go, we gotta I
Speaker 1: got too many let me get let me get you
Speaker 1: a nug give you some I got too many male
Speaker 1: facts up crazy, got too many male fans juices right now,
Speaker 1: male fans, tell me your story. Too many male fans.
Speaker 1: It's a problem female fans. I don't know where you're
Speaker 1: going on, like you gotta scratch it, scratch it. It's
Speaker 1: a horrible scratch that was too easy to make. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to club dream work. We're going to club.
Speaker 1: See I can tell you when nig is here. Damn
Speaker 1: too of your dump, Greg about goddamn club. Tell me
Speaker 1: tell me how this will go to Let's just make
Speaker 1: the motherfucker just how you doing up? Like? Who? Just line?
Speaker 1: What's your mom? You're gonna be gonna be gonna go out? Okay?
Speaker 1: Has father? You get ready? Goes through faces to the
Speaker 1: fucking song. This is it. It's We're getting ready to
Speaker 1: go out song, You're out song, Ain't back home song.
Speaker 1: This is a three different songs songs, the RP songs
Speaker 1: at the end, because they're never be one song for
Speaker 1: all of us. This is so genius. It can but
Speaker 1: it's not really you know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 1: you can kind of smooth one into the other like
Speaker 1: you can, but when you get back to the house.
Speaker 1: That song usually belongs to me turned down and if
Speaker 1: you don't, you last like thirty three seconds. I can't
Speaker 1: do nothing about that, because fancy in six minutes and
Speaker 1: forty seconds, forty seven seconds long. The last time you
Speaker 1: smoke to blood blood blood, I just do. I just
Speaker 1: do the the whites you know right now? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't smoke bucks bad, No, don't smoke bugs. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: in my insurance there's a little thing to happen policy
Speaker 1: thing that is sigarettes, which has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the white paper on to you. But it's tobacco. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. If you know, something happens to me, I
Speaker 1: would love my kids to get that eighty six million,
Speaker 1: all those verses, same tobacco, the same way as it
Speaker 1: takes tests. In school, I had had a system. Yes, no, yes,
Speaker 1: the Christmas yes, you know, I just know there. But
Speaker 1: everybody else I had a system. I was. I was
Speaker 1: a foul guy. I'm sorry. In school it was different.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you guys. Yeah, you know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: So I show up and together the funeral of ship, Well,
Speaker 1: he was leading a bad life. You're smoking tobacco. We've
Speaker 1: seen him on the show. Everybody, No, I ain't smoke ship. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: you know why you're gonna live forever because hip hop
Speaker 1: and arm be like you know um and and like
Speaker 1: like the legends. Sometimes we just live forever, like them
Speaker 1: niggas in England, the niggas in England, it's nine hundreds,
Speaker 1: but they all like they're like like the na I
Speaker 1: don't know all the rock boots from England, like and
Speaker 1: like hip hop is like a new Yeah, like he nah,
Speaker 1: not easy. He lived with like nine except didn't make
Speaker 1: it to night hunting. Oh damn. I forgot about him.
Speaker 1: But you you focusing on one person. There's all of
Speaker 1: them other niggas out there, and I've seen that this
Speaker 1: alcohol is affecting you, but no, it's not affecting me
Speaker 1: at all. I really love it. I know, I love
Speaker 1: and I love my job. I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that what it was going to do because no,
Speaker 1: no I was doing with Ultimately, my wife has to
Speaker 1: pay the price for this, but sheo'ld be fine. She's great.
Speaker 1: She's great. And your man, listen you you always handles
Speaker 1: your relationships in public, excellent. See somebody finally saying this
Speaker 1: ship that's like thinking that the time, yo, Like, I
Speaker 1: like you. You ain't petty at all at zero and
Speaker 1: you even just did a record with Todd Dollar songs
Speaker 1: that wait, actually I've done like what records on Wayne's
Speaker 1: new album, The New Quarter five, And that means I'm
Speaker 1: really not a petty for real. Okay, Okay, I understand.
Speaker 1: I think that's the most unpatty is you could be.
Speaker 1: Let's make some other all right, you are, I've undercepted
Speaker 1: you in the petty game, and I gotta release sign
Speaker 1: had to release m sorry, because that is a real
Speaker 1: brown man ship. Like it's like, yo, that you know
Speaker 1: people relationships, got to do relationships you whatever, like and
Speaker 1: you tipped out of that. We're all just people. And
Speaker 1: I think I think the I think in the end,
Speaker 1: especially in this culture, you know, we're not like this.
Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't us. It's not in us to
Speaker 1: be this way. This country has kind of made us
Speaker 1: a certain type of way, but it's just not in
Speaker 1: us to be that way. I think we're giving when
Speaker 1: we can't give, and nobody eyes away from a moment
Speaker 1: to be a hero. It's just less and less of
Speaker 1: those times that we get to become one or that
Speaker 1: is seen or that is celebrated. You know, like nobody
Speaker 1: wakes up if there's a kid in front of a car,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to push the kid out the way, you
Speaker 1: know what, say their life, you know, even if it
Speaker 1: means ending your own. So there's a hero part to it,
Speaker 1: you know that I think exists in the culture. We
Speaker 1: just don't get to prove it often enough, or it's
Speaker 1: not shown often enough. Man, it's not shown true. God damnit,
Speaker 1: dream man. I tried to have to try to compute
Speaker 1: them to the pretty game. He broke out of it,
Speaker 1: broke out, he broke out. Listen, look, Peo, gotta salute
Speaker 1: you more. Dream We got to this culture, not just
Speaker 1: hip hop, R and B. Every it's gotta because you're
Speaker 1: one of the great Do you recognize yourself as one
Speaker 1: of the greats? Not you? Why I got so much more?
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a great answer. So when did
Speaker 1: what do you want to what? His dreams? Ultimately want
Speaker 1: these songs that are right for three minutes and thirty
Speaker 1: seconds to last for about an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: So that's what those goes come on. I'm a dyslexic
Speaker 1: and I was only so I want these songs of
Speaker 1: three minutes and thirty seconds to last four hour and
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. So I just want to take those short stories.
Speaker 1: The hardest thing to do is to put a story
Speaker 1: in a minute and could just be able to elaborate,
Speaker 1: which is easy, and it's it's a treatment. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a treatment because you don't have to cut out
Speaker 1: the details. It's like, okay, I get a detail this ship.
Speaker 1: If I was writing a fucking short about me and
Speaker 1: fucking nor right now, I get the details to what
Speaker 1: the funk we're going through today. He leaves these times,
Speaker 1: just keep creating the picture. I love it. You know
Speaker 1: it's here. We wake up, Hey, y'all need we're gonna
Speaker 1: meet at the studio over The truth is we're never
Speaker 1: actually gonna make it to the studio. We spend his
Speaker 1: whole day not to say yeah yeah, so we spend
Speaker 1: this whole day. Ain't go to trying to get to
Speaker 1: the student to do song. Okay, that's never happened, So
Speaker 1: it's okay, it doesn't happen in real life. You know.
Speaker 1: That's kind of deploy the idea of it though. It's
Speaker 1: just trying so hard and when you really try to
Speaker 1: drip tight to do something. The ship devil comes out
Speaker 1: right when you try your hardest to get it right.
Speaker 1: So you started day trying to get the moved right.
Speaker 1: You go buy a pound from so and so over there,
Speaker 1: you get your blood just sh ain't going right? Get poor. No,
Speaker 1: you have to flush your ship. Funk. I gotta go
Speaker 1: back and do this ship. Your day is long, My
Speaker 1: day is long. R and B ship trying to get
Speaker 1: one bit y'all get another bit in, Like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna meet in the studio. Times already sucked up. We're
Speaker 1: sucking it up, but we're trying too hard to make
Speaker 1: the situation right and make the right record. That's have
Speaker 1: you read the treatment? No, I'm writing it right now.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, like I know you are before. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what. My next question was, have you ever
Speaker 1: gave somebody a record? And they even came back with
Speaker 1: the worst video treating the people over there too. They
Speaker 1: said they were all down together. He had the visions.
Speaker 1: I just let people, the fans to sign with videos
Speaker 1: there like video you were so mad at you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: tell me just telling them. Nobody listening. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: But there has been times where you're like, you know
Speaker 1: you have you grow healthy appetite when you humbro is
Speaker 1: the video that comes back on your song and your
Speaker 1: soul is high and you're like, oh funck yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then somebody goes down from there. He was all
Speaker 1: fun sun my song up the funk. Why were you
Speaker 1: there in a swamp doing my fun good song? That's
Speaker 1: definitely saying the beach. It's hint clue. That's why I
Speaker 1: said swamp, because they haven't. There's no videos in the swamp.
Speaker 1: There is no clue. He's very swamp. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're not getting them nowhere shots. It's nothing we can do,
Speaker 1: so that would be crazy. That'll be awkward if somebody
Speaker 1: had to be like that. We wouldn't do that. We're
Speaker 1: protecting you over. I appreciate what you got you, I'll
Speaker 1: protecting But he's right outside. They got they got. So Now,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite liquor? This is drink Champs. We drink liquor,
Speaker 1: our favorite liquor to write a hit or anything, or
Speaker 1: the process to write what is it like? But back
Speaker 1: in the day, it was patrol now is Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great, let's make some noise and why to see?
Speaker 1: I noticed that people that drink to killer those are
Speaker 1: people you know, you know for people that doesn't drink
Speaker 1: to kill up, that's straight down to the bottom. Like
Speaker 1: it's like because you can't just drink and killer and
Speaker 1: be depends on. So what I'm saying is, how could
Speaker 1: you drink to killer and like write these amazing lirics.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't need to drink to write Arsenal.
Speaker 1: You don't know. This ship is in purely your celebration
Speaker 1: of what then has been done. Yeah, I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: like high already when I wake up, I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't need anything that that actually just slows me to
Speaker 1: funk down. That's me up. I can't write. I can't
Speaker 1: write ship without the marijuana. Marijuana, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I want to drink silber chance. I don't
Speaker 1: late vocals. I don't drink, but when I actually write
Speaker 1: the vocals, I'll drink all day and I'll be I'll
Speaker 1: be like people myself. I don't be around nobody, like
Speaker 1: just sit there but to lay them. I will not
Speaker 1: drink hazard. I don't drink, and sometimes when I drink.
Speaker 1: The reason why when I drink, I gotta lay it back.
Speaker 1: I gotta redo the vocals so many times, and it's
Speaker 1: just not worth it. I just I have all the
Speaker 1: looking in the studios. I'm gonna lie and then I'll
Speaker 1: do it. I'll lay it sober and then we get
Speaker 1: sucked up. Well I didn't. I didn't. I didn't drink
Speaker 1: or smoke until I was thirty. So yeah, drink or smoke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a path that I that I made, you know,
Speaker 1: with myself, and I was just like, I'm not drinking
Speaker 1: a smoke until I got a million dollars. So that's
Speaker 1: when my first son death. For some of us, or smoke,
Speaker 1: they made a man dollars. That it's hard, that is hard.
Speaker 1: I was trying to motivate. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: who I was trying to motivate earlier. I was trying
Speaker 1: to motive. But damn, I should have used something like that.
Speaker 1: That was on you know, yea, I know V he
Speaker 1: still want to fight the system. Yeah, it's not. They
Speaker 1: threw all my case. I said, they threw out their
Speaker 1: case because they think you're crazy. They think you crazy
Speaker 1: you motherfucker like, and he's like, I want to soothe him. Now,
Speaker 1: you're lucky. Don't go back into the swamp with I
Speaker 1: like it. They just were coming, you know, you don't know,
Speaker 1: So what's your favorite moment in music period? All around
Speaker 1: nine MTV Music Awards with my damn god, damn, what
Speaker 1: you do? This is not the first thing. I'm just asking,
Speaker 1: what do you do you? Mike came back and then
Speaker 1: they got damn move walking nine Musical. I'm just for
Speaker 1: listeners that whole fucking mentally, that lasted like forty minutes
Speaker 1: and there I was like, oh, no commercial break again
Speaker 1: for Michael. He had been gone, man, he left. He
Speaker 1: did blood from the dance, Lloyd did all this ship
Speaker 1: he's over in your whatever funk he was doing. And
Speaker 1: after the first time we really saw him come, it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: Michaels to be on. We got ready all week for
Speaker 1: that ship, like, oh ship, Mike finn't come out and
Speaker 1: make it did smooth criminal ship and put criminal and
Speaker 1: he did leave came back. We're like, oh, ship, Mike's
Speaker 1: got crazy. That's the first time to what was induced.
Speaker 1: That's just when he come back. He looked when he
Speaker 1: did it was us. You didn't miss the fucking step
Speaker 1: He didn't missed the fucking step motherfucking Mike Amazing. I've
Speaker 1: been prints no man story with him. Men start with
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do you ain't gotta press store. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little Prince to death made rest in peace
Speaker 1: for that guy. They get you in. This is a
Speaker 1: good one. It's a good one. So we're doing this
Speaker 1: record with Mary J. Blige and it has that Prince's
Speaker 1: vibe to it. So so at the time, I was
Speaker 1: just like, all right, cool, we're go getting over the Prince,
Speaker 1: you know, like, let me take a stab at and
Speaker 1: do a couple of things that a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: do the thing. Of course, he's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I do whatever you'll need me to do. So they
Speaker 1: send the record over to him and Ship, and I'm
Speaker 1: just actually just saying what I think, I think the
Speaker 1: conversation with So send the record the Prince, Princess the
Speaker 1: record back and Ship. He didn't sing none of the
Speaker 1: parts that Mary wanted him to sing, but he he's
Speaker 1: like playing all of the track and Ship going crazy,
Speaker 1: like just going crazy and Ship, but in the prince
Speaker 1: type of way. Death like I said, But so Mary
Speaker 1: gets me. He's like, Yo, man, fucking Prince record man,
Speaker 1: he's just played all over the ship. Man, Like, how
Speaker 1: do I talk to him? I'm like, ship's fucking prints. FU,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, like you gotta take the hell dout?
Speaker 1: You know parts now, I don't even think we put
Speaker 1: the record. We probably the record. Um so so so
Speaker 1: she she gets she got the cursions like, you know what, dream,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him. I'm gonna call him up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him right now. I call you back.
Speaker 1: Mary's on the phone, me y'all phones. I guess she's
Speaker 1: calling Prinson. This kind of how this ship had to go.
Speaker 1: She's like, um uh, Prince, Yeah, I'm I got the
Speaker 1: I got the record back. But you know the I
Speaker 1: just wanted you to do this one part of me
Speaker 1: and seemed to, you know, just just sing a little
Speaker 1: bit and and just playing a little bit at the end.
Speaker 1: Well you don't like it. No, it's not really the
Speaker 1: and I don't like you know what, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: how many we because we was overing this bit, jam
Speaker 1: And like a mother definitely was the goodman and this
Speaker 1: bit Jamie like the play your ship in the back
Speaker 1: and it sounds good to them. She told me that ship.
Speaker 1: I just felt the Florida died, like I told you,
Speaker 1: fucking prints like what happened. But yeah I could, I
Speaker 1: could never. Just don't conference, just left, leave below cool.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do dogs, we'll just strake that
Speaker 1: ship up later. Now you have had one of those.
Speaker 1: And in the session with you when you worked with somebody,
Speaker 1: you looked up too, and they fucking up. You gotta
Speaker 1: be like, can't you change because me I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out like ship good. Just take them
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna tell him and it ain't good.
Speaker 1: You you you know I mind I been. I don't
Speaker 1: catch your release. I have no idea. She says, you
Speaker 1: came to catch your releases one this when you dump
Speaker 1: and did this ship so long with some motherfucker's that's
Speaker 1: just gifted. Don't tell them nothing wrong they song just no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like actually like making a song. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: you're making a song even if they're doing something that's
Speaker 1: not to your liking and you're in there with a
Speaker 1: great motherfucker. Don't say ship so not did not? No,
Speaker 1: you just you just how that's how you feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship alright cool because they ain't about it being bad. Well,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's great. They're great. Sometimes they just be doing or
Speaker 1: something that's not great. You can you can do this, no,
Speaker 1: not like that, just just in a way maybe a
Speaker 1: delivery or something like you should have been a little
Speaker 1: bit softer on that. But it ain't critique time. As
Speaker 1: soon as they leave, you know, they're just all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go shopping real quick, go to Berry going
Speaker 1: for good and give me a couple of things. Come back.
Speaker 1: By the time you get back, there's so fucking great.
Speaker 1: The great ones are so fucking great. They answered they
Speaker 1: fucking question and you're here. You're like, thank god, and
Speaker 1: he has to bring that ship up and they don't,
Speaker 1: right because they're great. That's how they got that. They
Speaker 1: already they're already picking at themselves at a point and
Speaker 1: in a certain type of way that you can never
Speaker 1: pick the ship apart. You can't tell say something like
Speaker 1: it's fucked up, like she knows what what she knows
Speaker 1: what to do? You know, like so you can't. You
Speaker 1: just have to give them, you know, anybody that time
Speaker 1: that's great and they'll come back to their own ship
Speaker 1: and say, I think I could do that hook like this.
Speaker 1: I think that would be better than in your mind.
Speaker 1: Just like, thank god, I don't have to say nothing
Speaker 1: about that. And when they need your fucking input, there
Speaker 1: asks you the great ones to do. It's the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: in the middle. Can't tell them motherfucker ship and they'll correct.
Speaker 1: Now I think this ship, don't. It's dope enough Number
Speaker 1: one ninety eight on ever got that charge? But whatever
Speaker 1: you say, have you get my money up front? Have
Speaker 1: you ever been wrong? Have you ever gave advice and
Speaker 1: you was wrong? Wrong all the time? Yeah, I'm all
Speaker 1: right and wrong. Don't like what's what's something he was
Speaker 1: wrong on? Like the artists wanted to work with you
Speaker 1: or something or something like, I'm never wrong on that
Speaker 1: type of ship. I was just saying in life in
Speaker 1: general and this music, Ye, I got this. You don't.
Speaker 1: Let's make some looks for that good thing. I'm just in. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to a cigarette break in the bathroom break
Speaker 1: real quick. You're cool, and then we get that five
Speaker 1: more minutes. Yeah, I got bathroom breakfast. Yeah we're gonnam.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna like, that's the city player. And she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta at least take one bathroom. So
Speaker 1: this is this is like a low part of the
Speaker 1: show that um running by Now, this is you know,
Speaker 1: you'll never run ship by you. They all have conversations,
Speaker 1: but no, this is the part I'm just seeing. This
Speaker 1: is gonna work. I pulled up one of your tweets, right,
Speaker 1: he says, ask your favorites how many times they played
Speaker 1: me before the inspiration kicked in? Then you tagged in
Speaker 1: meat mil and you said it and then you say
Speaker 1: said it best. Jimmy foul Dream. You don't what what
Speaker 1: did that tweet? Me? Me and me and me and
Speaker 1: um my brother Meek just did a record on foul
Speaker 1: and maybe like a month and a half, two months ago.
Speaker 1: Um yo, Black America. And I'm walking in and let's
Speaker 1: just say he has a certain thing that he did.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, I was, you know, I week
Speaker 1: has a certain you know, he has his dream chase,
Speaker 1: his logo and like my log logo which is Radio
Speaker 1: Killer Records, which is the whole roads. And and I
Speaker 1: get ready to walk in and I was like, actually
Speaker 1: his first it out And he was like, but I
Speaker 1: put that ship on blast, so everybody's seen it. It's like,
Speaker 1: not your problem is who says He's like, you know
Speaker 1: what your problem is. It's like you don't put enough
Speaker 1: light on it. Like so when you do ship, nobody
Speaker 1: really knows. He's like, you don't talk about that ship,
Speaker 1: like how you need to talk about it, you know,
Speaker 1: so that motherfucker's know, like that certain ship came from
Speaker 1: you and now stopped for like two seconds. I was like,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker's right, like like you know, and I don't.
Speaker 1: And that's probably it's probably more leaning to the un
Speaker 1: artist part about me, you know. Um, And there's nothing
Speaker 1: that I would change about that particular thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, at this particular point, once you want your famous,
Speaker 1: your famous, Like there's no in between. I don't believe
Speaker 1: in in between, Like you know, take the bullshit as
Speaker 1: as it amounts in dollars, like and and it just
Speaker 1: is what it is, like, but go all the way,
Speaker 1: like don't stop, or don't don't cut something short or
Speaker 1: make something half asked or do it half is it
Speaker 1: to be done? You know, if if you're scared of
Speaker 1: that light, like run all the way to the light
Speaker 1: you started running there in the first place, and that's
Speaker 1: he just in one quick second reminded me O O
Speaker 1: G me, like, yo, you don't put enough light on
Speaker 1: that ship. You guys start talking that ship, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm good at talking ship. But at certain point,
Speaker 1: at a certain point, it was more so I was
Speaker 1: talking to myself. So when did you adjust after he
Speaker 1: said that? Why did you adjust? I'm just doing a
Speaker 1: certain ships showing certain ship now, like it's it's just
Speaker 1: a it's I'm just gaining a better perspective of um
Speaker 1: inspiring others. And when there's a line that that that
Speaker 1: they both like intersect, it's like, be humble with what
Speaker 1: you have, but also you could be so humble that
Speaker 1: you've seem silent about certain things, you know, versus inspiring
Speaker 1: somebody else to say, you know, because only only gifted
Speaker 1: and motherfucker's that leaving themselves gonna take it the right
Speaker 1: way anyway. So that was just the point of doing
Speaker 1: ship to a certain point that makes somebody say that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's roll around this bitch and that fucking ghosts like
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing you got nine nine calls like and
Speaker 1: feel okay with like it ain't about me not being humble,
Speaker 1: like I know where the funk I came from. I
Speaker 1: don't know where my ancestors came from. I know more
Speaker 1: about my tree and the slave shift that dropped us
Speaker 1: off in South Carolina than anybody like I know about it,
Speaker 1: So I know exactly what it is. So I have
Speaker 1: to I didn't have to convince myself, but I had
Speaker 1: to just believe that and say, whatever you do have
Speaker 1: is in the test a testament of of It's a
Speaker 1: testament to hard work and and being able to to
Speaker 1: persevere through anything. And the real people that feel good
Speaker 1: inside theirselves, they're gonna feel like that. They don't feel
Speaker 1: like yose, you need some more champagne. That was a
Speaker 1: great Champagne calls your perseverance. It's real. It's just champagne. Cup.
Speaker 1: You got champagne, got like nine cups over there, can't
Speaker 1: give it. You're keeping in really drink yo. Listen, RB
Speaker 1: Niggers is never gonna come to Australa. They're gonna try
Speaker 1: to top Dream and they're gonna that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: They're gonna die. It's R and B think it's just
Speaker 1: as tough as hip hop. Niggers old that y'all might
Speaker 1: be even wilder than us. Have to compare, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's it's a got a D M Mexican
Speaker 1: R and B. That's Bobby Brown, right, that's the first time.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I mean, listen, let's just keep there.
Speaker 1: Let's got so all right, let' let's just compare RB
Speaker 1: Niggers the Raptice right now, right, I don't know, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, Just this a stick of it. Right. Who's
Speaker 1: the whole of rmby because you let the coops, you
Speaker 1: let the quincy, who's the whole of R and B.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's really replaced R. Kelly, to be
Speaker 1: honest when it comes to that, except Kelly, you know,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pistole people. And he's still a man a
Speaker 1: little bit somewhere in the world, you know, Like it's
Speaker 1: hard in the world. As much as as much as
Speaker 1: we want to like marry, marry. The idea that genius
Speaker 1: is in a in a in a conformed world, like
Speaker 1: it's not about forgiving anybody for anything. Ship is just
Speaker 1: different in that mind, like it has to be. And
Speaker 1: you can't get that type of ship out of your
Speaker 1: body if you wanted to the closer you are the
Speaker 1: same as the closer you are to not being gifted.
Speaker 1: So when crazy ship happens, I'm not really like like like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the world's gonna end. It's like to me,
Speaker 1: there's something that takes a certain type of way in
Speaker 1: an individual, you know, whether it be dark or like
Speaker 1: depending on what we want from them. And when we
Speaker 1: get what we want from them, we're kind of good
Speaker 1: and and and when we don't, we're upset, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's not to say who a victim is or
Speaker 1: who a victim is not. Like, the point is you
Speaker 1: still live in the real world with real people. There
Speaker 1: are rules, they're you know, there are certain things. But
Speaker 1: it also bigs the question the idea of time, God's religion,
Speaker 1: like it bakes a different the question of what's actually real,
Speaker 1: like like what is it you know you come from?
Speaker 1: My great grandmother gave birth at thirteen. It's so full
Speaker 1: past now. But that used to be a thing, like
Speaker 1: for real, it wasn't a law, like, it wasn't a like.
Speaker 1: So so what are we changing overall? And and how
Speaker 1: far is DNA and traits actually playing into that and
Speaker 1: what they don't because most of the times you can
Speaker 1: do some ship just out of habit from what you
Speaker 1: came from. That's just regular fucking science and logic. Like
Speaker 1: you're more like your father and your mother than even
Speaker 1: if you wanted to not be, like, oh, I just
Speaker 1: don't to be like them, Like yeah, but you are.
Speaker 1: You may not be a composive drug user, but you're
Speaker 1: a gambler, Like you ain't not be a gambler, but
Speaker 1: you're a sex you know, you're a sex addict or.
Speaker 1: And with all that being said, then you may be
Speaker 1: a genius and motherfucker that Gon invent did, Like like
Speaker 1: you're the same person that had to dream or be
Speaker 1: stupid and crazy and courageous enough to say, I think
Speaker 1: I know how to make it light this that's something
Speaker 1: that's doing. It's just it's just the idea of that
Speaker 1: we're not anything, you know, well that was just that's
Speaker 1: just dumb ship that people say, like we're just sucking stupid,
Speaker 1: like nobody's condoning anything that's not right, you know, like
Speaker 1: in society or even in your mind, like if you
Speaker 1: need help, get help, Like that's that's that's just some
Speaker 1: whole trickery ass trump ship, Like that ship don't that
Speaker 1: ship doesn't mean anything. Um. The truth is the body
Speaker 1: is just more sophisticated than we want to give it.
Speaker 1: Give it credit for the body to mind, Like what
Speaker 1: you get these things from all the way to the
Speaker 1: point of why we're so distrimental allows to ourselves as
Speaker 1: as a culture and as human beings, Like all of
Speaker 1: those things come down to traits and things that if
Speaker 1: you don't try to understand, you won't understand. Because all
Speaker 1: those days skipping science and ship is the dumb ship.
Speaker 1: You know, you just shouldn't never been science versus religion
Speaker 1: in the first place, because you can't figure out a
Speaker 1: mind like R. Kelly Are or whoever it is. Of
Speaker 1: course we know in the real world, Okay, that's wrong,
Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't do that, like you should have better
Speaker 1: morals or whatever it is. And then on the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, I don't know what's in your body
Speaker 1: and in your mind, Man, I don't I really just
Speaker 1: don't know. And I don't know whether I can say
Speaker 1: completely that an insane person is insane, because the truth is,
Speaker 1: there's just one word that that actually takes you from
Speaker 1: being insane to a genius genius, and that's success. If
Speaker 1: you success, you're a genius. If you're not, you too crazy.
Speaker 1: Well the funk under the bridge there everybody you told,
Speaker 1: you told everybody your ideas and ship just never took off.
Speaker 1: So that means I could be the same in same
Speaker 1: motherfucker or mere could be seeing it with this nigger
Speaker 1: who's a genius is It's like, no, nigga, you're a genius?
Speaker 1: Like why success? That lightning in the bottle? I couldn't
Speaker 1: even control it in the first place. Beyonce didn't have
Speaker 1: to be in my time period of living, or Rihanna
Speaker 1: or Ja or Kanye like all of it. Like that
Speaker 1: ship was divine, that was set up from a different
Speaker 1: thing that I had nothing to do with, you know,
Speaker 1: so I can't really I have to see both out
Speaker 1: of the play the Devil's advocate when it's you're being
Speaker 1: guided by time and in moments like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the time ship just helps you become cattle
Speaker 1: and work for society and make money and pay your
Speaker 1: fucking taxes and ship. But if we live by moments,
Speaker 1: then I think people would be better off of them.
Speaker 1: There's no debating people's creativity and and and how genius
Speaker 1: they are. Like r Kelly, but I just wanna make
Speaker 1: sure that when we go over now. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: I think it's very serious when we're talking and drink,
Speaker 1: chance that nobody could ever violate children or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're not saying that. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just putting out there for myself. Yeah, everybody knows
Speaker 1: that I have children and I love him to do. No, No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, like, I feel awkward because I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a DJ, and I played Artilly and I
Speaker 1: and I think he's a genius, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But but I found myself in a crossroads when you
Speaker 1: start to see the things that come out and you're
Speaker 1: just like anybody. I think the cross road is the
Speaker 1: fact that you're surprised, why should I not be anything
Speaker 1: that's on earth? Like, oh no, he definitely not surprised
Speaker 1: that anything that happens in the world. Because when that
Speaker 1: happens when you get older, when when I'm originally playing
Speaker 1: Art Kelly, I'm a child as well, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so I'm just saying like, when we
Speaker 1: start to grow up and you realize you're like, that's unacceptable. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever somebody's accused of whatever we're thinking of, whoever is
Speaker 1: being told old to us. Yeah, I mean if you
Speaker 1: don't know that, that's just that's just back to the
Speaker 1: part of society now, like it's just coming sense at
Speaker 1: this point from where I grew up. But of course
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that's listening or motherfucker's is looking at news and
Speaker 1: having to be told and controlled whatever we know, not
Speaker 1: not you. I'm saying mass people who look to news
Speaker 1: to figure out things. I think that's an important lesson
Speaker 1: and just grazing kids like my my child should know
Speaker 1: coming what coming senses. Coming sense is lacking in the world,
Speaker 1: which which is the point why you're over trying to
Speaker 1: You're trying to over iterate what we mean and like
Speaker 1: what we stand by and what we don't have to
Speaker 1: because yeah, because you feel like you have to because
Speaker 1: it's stupid. Motherfucker's listening right now. That's like that. I
Speaker 1: think they're actually saying that they agree with, like, motherfucker, no,
Speaker 1: you don't from don't say bigger you know, I love
Speaker 1: my stupidness. The whole crowd like stops stupid listeners but
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm stupid too, Like I understand. I understand this.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about you have to say like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: as much as I love my kids, I kill every
Speaker 1: one of you for them, Like I have to actually
Speaker 1: say that that's sucking nuts, Like who the fund happened
Speaker 1: to come into a long time ago, but unfortunately but
Speaker 1: now for four four see me? How did that record
Speaker 1: come together? Man? Tell your truth? That's all Jay. And
Speaker 1: Jay had just had this record already and he asked
Speaker 1: me to add live to to certain things or whatever
Speaker 1: UM in the in the song and it was just
Speaker 1: more him being family than anything. It's so yeah, and
Speaker 1: I want you to want you to do these vocals
Speaker 1: on this record. And it wasn't ever about a feature.
Speaker 1: It's about anything. I think it's just the fact that
Speaker 1: oh it's dreams, so it should be a feature or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But for me it was like oh coo, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do the background. I do so many backgrounds on something,
Speaker 1: so many things period, because my whole point is to
Speaker 1: making sure that UM artists gets their story heard, you know,
Speaker 1: and get their point out. Like it's not about me,
Speaker 1: it's about and I think that's the great part about
Speaker 1: being a songwriter when it's never about you in the
Speaker 1: first place. You don't mind your artists. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: they didn't put my feature credit on there. You're going crazy.
Speaker 1: That kickship called lawyers and do all kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: That ship. It's like, did you get your point out?
Speaker 1: Did you make a great album? People love it? Awesome
Speaker 1: idea by ship. So now I dream, you know, because
Speaker 1: I have a petty and they're in a good way.
Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out there that I
Speaker 1: need a dream record, like in All You when you at,
Speaker 1: you just tell me whatever you But I fly to
Speaker 1: wherever you're at. I don't give a because I want
Speaker 1: to be at your zone. I want to be like
Speaker 1: I want to get crazy. Whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's like, whatever you want to do, if you want
Speaker 1: to be like going somewhere, I'm a little So if
Speaker 1: I set up too as eating tables, you like, that's
Speaker 1: I'm bad. I watched them, you know, I wasn't think
Speaker 1: like Susie. I was thinking about the wives. I wasn't
Speaker 1: thinking about Oh it would be a dividery ship. So
Speaker 1: you won't see what I'm doing music you want or
Speaker 1: the other thing that was. Now before you get up,
Speaker 1: good your dream, literalitate something. You set the standards for
Speaker 1: the cool rm B. But in real life, I'm saying
Speaker 1: you do that. Then you did that on drink Champs,
Speaker 1: but in real life, which you contributed to the game.
Speaker 1: We have to salute. We have to continue salute as
Speaker 1: a culture. You have to continue to be filled like
Speaker 1: a king and treated like a king, because that's what
Speaker 1: we are. This and this thing of ours. We sacrifice
Speaker 1: and we give our lives to this game. So I
Speaker 1: want you to always know that even other people like
Speaker 1: me and d J E. F N, we know what
Speaker 1: you're sacrifice to be in this game. We know what
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