1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. Here's so work out wonder. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another addition to the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Christoph Westling, and 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Greg Rosat. What's up? Boys? Christoph? Why do I gotta 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: be French? You don't like that? I like it. I 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: think you should. That basically should be Chris's name from 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: here on it. Just like Philly Philly Brown's mother named 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: him Corey Brown, he now goes by Corey. My mother 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: named me Christopher Philly Brown. I'm not going to get 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: in the way of Mrs Wesley. It was never really Philly. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: That was a name that was tagged on him, and 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: he went with it for a little bit, starting the 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: show with a lot of Philly Brown. It is June two, 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. We get closer and closer to 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: training camp than the regular season, and in the playoffs, 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: and then the Super Bowl and the free agency and 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: then the combine and then the draft, and we'll be 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: right back here again. And then you're offseason controversy. Yes, 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: whatever is next the next gate. We have a very 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: nice show today. The group is all together, which is 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: always fun. We are going to get into some news, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: a lot of news to get into. Uh. And what's 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: been a pretty busy day is offseason training activities continue. 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Mark that's better known as what a shorthand? What is? 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? There you go. I was in my own world, friend, 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: I got you there and Uh, Mark's looking at that clocks. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: He knows he's out here at three o'clock. No, I'm 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: looking to be part of an award winning episode of 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: this podcast. We are now, we are nominated by the Academy. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: We are nominated by the Academy of Podcast Science. Is 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: something like that. So continue to send in maybe your 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: favorite five minute clip of the show. Uh two at 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: producer t D who's in Nigeria by the way right now. 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Can't hear a word of what we're doing here? Yeah, 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't send it to t D. Send how 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: long he's good for a couple of weeks on until 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: after the submission that's two thousand fifteen. I'm sure that 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: he brought his laptop and he's plugged in. He likes 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: being a part of this podcast. I trust him. He's 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: going to a wedding in multiple countries. I don't wouldn't 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: send any business oriented item his way. You can send 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: it to around the NFL to send it to both 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, you could do that too. And I 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: would also say that this could be serving yes, not 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: only joyful time for TV his sisters getting married, but 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: also a test whether how much do you love do 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you around the NFL podcast? You gonna work remote from 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: another part of the world. Greg, fair? Unfair? That's fair. 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: We we get on mark, you know. And and for 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: not listening to the podcast, why not t D M M. 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: That's true. That felt unnecessary. Why did we need to 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: back to that point? Ways, we've already set a high standard. 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: TD has got to clear it. We are also, in 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: addition to the news, going to uh get into list 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: and everybody loves to do a little power rankings. Uh. 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: And yes June second, very early, but you know, from 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: where we stand now in the early or the mid 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: stages of offseason training even the late stages. Uh, you know, 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: let's check in and share our five top teams in 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: the NFL as we head toward training camp and our 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: five bottom feeders, and see how bad we look come 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: January or good we look in West's case because he's 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna nail it. I'm gonna announce it right now. All 65 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: ten teams are gonna be perfectly accurate. But before we 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: get to any of that, we will check behind the 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: glass and yes, if TD has gone, there has to 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: be someone there. The gold standard now is in the 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: middle of you know, indicting what's the name of that guy, 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Seth Bladder kicking him out of FIFA. That's a lot 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: of people are excited about that, including that damn yank. 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Replacing TD today is the great Sean Sullivan. We call 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: him Heyo Sully. What's up, guys, going well, doing really well? Yeah, 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: it's good to be a part of the plot, are 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: you I mean, this is a big, big good moment. 76 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: This is Stitcher Award winning show, So there's a bar 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: that you need to stay above and not drag the 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: show down. Are you nervous at all? Uh? No, No, 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm not nervous. I feel like we're kind of wasting 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Sean's greatest gift putting him on air because the people 81 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: can't see his mustache, which is really the defining part 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: of Sean best stash in the game right now at 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: NFL Media and uh, it might. The days are numbered 84 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: for this toaf because of a certain nickname that Check is. 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh we won't say it on the say it on 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the air here on on a t N. Well, you 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: know what, but when we get downstairs, I'll you know, 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: I'll give it to Check a little bit, because that's 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, it's not right. It's gonna No one 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: shames him into shaving that beard. That's true. But if 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: you if you're trying to imagine Sean, just imagine a 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: beautiful mustache and a hair that looks exactly like every 93 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: man from Alabama. Yeah, never Alabama, every friend. I could 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: accept that. Hey, Sully, can we do some news? All right? 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: We start with the big news of the day. Tuesday, 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have got their running back back in the building. 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson returned to the team. Uh, he's back. He 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: is joining the team in O T A S after 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, not a holdout, but he was sitting out 100 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: O T S. Was unhappy with his contract, was unhappy 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: with the team. Uh. He made his unhappiness clear on 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Twitter last week, which maybe he thought, oh, maybe this 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: is hinting at something longer, but instead here he is. 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: He's with the team. He also spoke to the media 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: um after Mike Zimmer first spoke and said that you know, 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: there's nothing more beautiful than seeing the ball in Adrian 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Peterson's hands and welcoming back with open arms. A P 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: comes out says, it's been an emotional time for both 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the parties involved. He's learned from his mistake, he's moving forward, 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: and he's ready for what's in front of him. Greg Rosenthal, 111 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: a P is back. Were you surprised that happened today? Absolutely? 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Based on what you said the twitter comments, it seemed 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: like they were starting to dig in their heels. I 114 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: expected him to be back eventually, but not so soon. 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: But you got the sense today listening to him speak, 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: he just missed football and he he knew it wasn't 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: helping him, and maybe him and his agent decided if 118 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: they if they want to get their money, maybe the 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: better route here is to come in, do the work, 120 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: and maybe eventually you'll get some guaranteed money. In two 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, this was all he had no leverage, right, 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: so there really was nothing to gain other than like 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: going all out, and he said he said during this 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: pressent conference that he a lot went through his head. 125 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: He even mentioned remember one around the NFL post we 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: wrote a while back that track was something that was 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: in his mind, like he went through all these stages retirement, 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: but ultimately I guess he decided, uh, you know, there's 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: no leverage. I missed the game. I want to be 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: there with my teammates, and here he is. I mean, 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: the twitter ranted he went on last week. Maybe when 132 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: when any when any of us do anything like that, 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: some version of that, you think it's gonna be responded 134 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: to a certain way. And it was certainly not responded 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: to positively in general. But maybe you know, over the 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: course of time after that, he just reset the machine 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: and the vikings of the winners here. They didn't have 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: to pay him an extra cent. They get him back 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: and Mike Zimmer, who who thought last year Mike Zimmer 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: would go into his first year as an NFL head 141 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: coach with a rookie quarterback and no Adrian Peterson. That's 142 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: not what he signed up for. He has Adrian Peterson 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: back now and and he played a huge role in that. 144 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: Peterson said, Zimmer played a bigger role in me returning 145 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: than he'll ever know. That he's a coach. You don't 146 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: want to let down that he never had a problem 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: with any of the coaches, that he thinks they're one 148 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: of the best coaching staffs he's ever been, you know, 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: seeing or in the NFL, and that he loves his 150 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: teammates and ultimately thought he owed it to them, so 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: he made it clear he was he was separating the 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: coaches from the management. Zimmer handled this whole thing beautifully, 153 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I thought. A couple of months back he traveled uh 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: to Houston and and and spoke with Peterson at the house. 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: He kind of he never said anything to really inflame 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: the situation. Last week, Uh, he came out and was 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: just straight honest. I don't think it was antagonistic or anything. 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, just said what everybody knew 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: that he was going to play with the Vikings are 160 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: not play at all. Obviously that relationship maybe that's strained 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: like everyone else with Peterson of the Vikings, but it 162 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: seemed that, uh that at the end of the day, 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: he respected Zimmer and that played a role in this. Yeah, 164 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: I think there was a love fest going on both ways. 165 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Zimmer said, you know, I love this kid, I really do. 166 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: I've said all along I wouldn't fly to Houston to 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: see him if it wasn't important to me Um, And 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: then you could see the respect on both sides. He thinks, 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: you know, despite what Adrian Peterson went through last year, 170 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: you can tell that he thinks Adrian Peterson is a 171 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: good person and he wants to see him succeed. They 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: stressed that a lot, and Peterson took a lot of 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: questions about his son. I thought, for a guy who 174 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: is not known for being a good public speaker, I 175 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: think he's probably struggled with that throughout his career. I 176 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: thought it was a very emotional and honest and effective 177 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: press conference. He was speaking from the heart, and he's 178 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: seemed like a more mature and a little bit of 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: a changed guy after going through all this and and 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: the stuff he did talk about his son. You know, 181 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I know it's not a topic we we talked about 182 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot, but I think it was an important point. 183 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: The things that he said he learned in therapy and 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the parenting methods, and he apologized for it, and it's like, okay, 185 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: now now we can all move on. I think one 186 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Peterson didn't have much sympathy is 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: because of that that he didn't come across as someone 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: for the past eight or nine months who was sorry 189 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: about what he did, who realized he was wrong for 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: join it. And I think today, like you said, there 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: was more of a maturity there. Maybe he did have 192 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: an epiphany that this isn't the way that you should 193 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: act as a human being. So I think that you're 194 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: right that there is a change in him. Alright, moving on, 195 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: So Peterson is in Minnesota and Cam Newton he's not 196 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: going anywhere. He's gonna stay in Charlotte for the foreseeable future. 197 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Uh Newton and the Pathers agreed officially on Tuesday to 198 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: a five year, one hundred and three million dollar extension 199 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: that will keep Newton under team control through the twenty 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty season. Uh NFL media insider Ian rapp Report reported 201 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: that Newton will earn sixty seven point six million in 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: the first three years of his deal, according to a source, 203 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: that is the most money ever in a three year period, 204 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: and the guarantees are for the five year deal is 205 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: sixty million thirty million in the first year. So that's 206 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: big time money. And I thought it was interesting sixty 207 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. The guy that you know complete percentages in 208 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: his career, so to me, not a complete quarterback at 209 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: the stage. But uh, Mark, I'll start with you on this. 210 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: When Newton came out last week and said that he 211 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: had seals that no one else really has ever had, 212 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: that's true too. There's a lot to get excited about, 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and they paid for it. Yeah, and I know those comments. 214 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: We talked about it here and a lot of people 215 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of chuckled at that. But when you talk about 216 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: what he brings to the table in terms of his 217 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: size and unique athleticism, he is right. There aren't a 218 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: lot of other quarterbacks in our lifetime that from that 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: angle offer what he what he does, he's incomplete. At 220 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the same time, this is the game. If you have 221 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, you pay them that money and 222 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: you don't look back. I mean, for all the all 223 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: the fans that root for teams without a quarterback, you 224 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: would take Cam Newton at that rate any day of 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the week went up, and you can't just throw out 226 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the impact he has in the running game. Everyone wants 227 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: a consistent passing quarterback. We get it. Eventually, Newton's running 228 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: is gonna slow down, But for now and for the 229 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: next you know, few years. His running is wildly valuable 230 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: in the way it changes the defense and the way 231 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: the defense has to react on play action and when 232 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: they do read action I mean a little bit. That's 233 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: a huge part of his game, and to me, that's 234 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: what makes him a top ten quarterback. If it wasn't 235 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: for the running, he wouldn't be that high. Yeah, I 236 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: think the guys he's closest to in playing style, or 237 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Donovan nab and Ben Ben Roethlisberger, who earlier in their 238 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: career were sandlock quarterbacks with you know, especially with mcnah 239 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: major accuracy issues and then they became better pocket passers 240 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: as a career win along. But I think Mark's right. 241 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of debate, a lot of airtime in bandwidth, 242 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: but we wasted. Is he worth this contract? It doesn't 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: matter if you're identified as the face of the franchise. 244 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: If you're a legit franchise quarterback and the Panthers believe 245 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: he is, you pay him whatever it takes. When did 246 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: everyone get so concerned about well, you know, I that's 247 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: a little too much guaranteed money in the first two years. 248 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: I wish they had spread You're right, I was always 249 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: I think that well, the Joe Flacco contract changed the way. 250 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: When that happened, there was such a firestorm around is 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: he worth it? Is he not? It's like, you just 252 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: want a super Bowl with this guy. Yes, he's worth it. 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Nobody ever asked, well, what's your alternative right not sign 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: him and start all over. I look at it is. Yes, 255 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: they have a salary cap and it takes up a 256 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: big portion of it, but they're worth forty million dollars. 257 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: They're worth more. The quarterbacks are worth so much more 258 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: than all the other players. That's how much. That's how 259 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: much they're worth. So if they're worth a couple of 260 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: it should be stated that Newton has been a five 261 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: quarterback through four seasons, which isn't all on him. And he's, 262 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: like I said, he's not a complete passer. He's a 263 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: little erratic, has been since he came in the league. 264 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Clark at Wall Street Journal had a tweet that 265 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: I liked yesterday. He said, most quarterbacks are like tech startups. 266 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: Almost all the money they get is because of fear 267 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: of missing out, which is an Internet slang fomo. Uh. 268 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: This is like the fomo effect, Like these guys are 269 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: going to get whether they're complete quarterbacks or not. If 270 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: you're young and promising in the front office likes you. 271 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill also applause. They'll give you superstar money and 272 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: just hope that they hit on you because they do 273 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: not want to try to find They don't want to 274 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: be the Jets. They don't want to be the Browns. 275 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: They don't want to be the Bengals. Bengals are a 276 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: weird case, but they You want to just get behind 277 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the guy you believe in and hope it works out 278 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: even if he never improves. Essentially, he's still worth getting 279 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: this contract. In West's article here, how there's an NFC 280 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: general manager who told ESPN recently that Newton might be 281 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: too two years away from being finished finished. That was 282 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: a mid season last year when the Panthers were three 283 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: eight and one, and there was all that question at 284 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: the time about running quarterbacks. And I remembered reading that. 285 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: That's why I went back and found it, because I 286 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: thought that was crazy that in two years he could 287 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: be out of it. There's a sense that he just 288 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: didn't get how to play quarterback. But I think that 289 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: sells a lot of his improvements short and I don't know, 290 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to me, nobody ever says, what's your alternative? 291 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: But more than that, when you're a team like you said, 292 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: five hundred, every year they go to the playoffs. The 293 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: last two years, the first quarterback ever to win the 294 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: NFC South and back to back seasons, you're not if 295 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: you decide to get rid of Newton, I'm not gonna 296 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: pay him. You're not drafting first or fifth. You're drafting 297 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a quarterback. You can go years 298 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: without finding a quarterback worth starting. I mean, that's what 299 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: happened longest teams. He's coming off a bad season, a 300 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: relatively bad regular season. I think his speakiness is his 301 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: defining trade. You of writing at the first few weeks 302 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: that he was a top five quarterbacktly he had. He 303 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: had a top five type of month and he had 304 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a seven eight game stretch in the middle that was 305 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: far worse than almost any of these quarterbacks ever go through. 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: That got the big contract, and then he finished very strong. 307 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: So that's that's Cam Newton. He can be streaky within 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: a game too. He can be on fire but the 309 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: first half and then throw very poorly in the second. 310 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: His season, though, was a kind of a lesson on 311 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: how to evaluate quarterbacks. Almost every time we see an 312 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: established quarterback playing poorly, it's because the surrounding talent just 313 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: absolutely falls apart. His offensive line at mid season last 314 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: year was atrocious. Remember that Monday night game against the Eagles. 315 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was getting hit every time he dropped back. 316 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: And then solidified their offensive line, Kelvin Benjamin emerges as 317 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: in number one. They start to get Jericho Contry and 318 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: Philly Brown playing all right. I mean, I think that 319 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: was more about the surrounding talent and the fact that 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was playing injured and that Panther's team down 321 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the stretches. So I think a lot closer to what 322 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna cease right away this season. They aren't what 323 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: they were. And you know, and with these young quarterbacks, 324 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: we have to realize that when we're gonna start them 325 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: from week one as a rookie, that they're gonna have 326 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: to go through this streakiness in these periods on the field. 327 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: They're not going through two years of practice behind the shadows, 328 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to deal with that. But like 329 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I take Newton in a second over us about this, 330 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: who would you take for the next five years. Cam 331 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Newton or Ryan Tannehill, Damn, no question. I take camp 332 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: in any offense, in any such Yeah, I have absolutely, 333 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: and I think the kind because I would just let 334 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: me just say this. Tannehill last year showed and I 335 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: know it's a different offense and all that, but showed 336 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: actual tangible growth in year three. Newton's already through year 337 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: four and he's still kind of up and down. Tannehill 338 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe has more big things a rookie that Tannehill stay 339 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: hasn't done yet. I mean Tannehill, you cannot over you 340 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: cannot over say how much that gimmick offense helped Tannehill 341 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: this year. He wasn't making throws down the field. Everything 342 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: was quick hitters. It's telling the contract they got. And 343 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I know we don't want to dive too deep into 344 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the numbers, but Cam did get that. I mean, this 345 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: was a much different contract than Tannehill. They treated him 346 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: much differently. He got the Joe Flacco Tony romo. The 347 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: top of the line. You're gonna get all your guaranteed money. 348 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: There's no year by year. You're just getting all the 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: money year ago. It's interesting that these quarterbacks that Kappern 350 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: Kaepernick deal, which looks terrible and that, yeah, and the 351 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: Dalton deal like that seemed like maybe a lot of 352 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that weren't like the top eight guys would 353 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: be roped into those type of deals, But apparently that's 354 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: not the case. And I'd love to just to your 355 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: point on Tannehill, I would absolutely love to see what 356 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Cam Newton could do in a Chip Kelly or Bill 357 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Laser offense. That's that's interesting. Moving on more extension talk. 358 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints, who have, you know, a lot 359 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: of turnover, especially on that defense, they have now identified 360 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: someone that they see as a real building block, Cameron 361 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Jordan's the defense. Event signed a five year extension on Tuesday. 362 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: The extension includes fifty five million and new money over 363 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: the five years. Million is in the first two years 364 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: of the deal. And Greg, you said, this is practically 365 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback money. Uh, Is Cameron Jordan's worth this type 366 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: of money? I was a little surprised at the numbers, 367 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: and you always have to read the fine print, but 368 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty six million over the next two years for for 369 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan's that seems a little steep for me. He's 370 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: a very good player. I I don't think he's shown 371 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: that he's a superstar. He was a superstar two years ago. 372 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: He wasn't last year, So how do you have been 373 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: in the league four years? Kind Of like Cam Newton. 374 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: He's a very good starter and he might make a 375 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: few more Pro Bowls in his career and he might not. 376 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: He's good against the run. I think he can work 377 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: in any system. He's the type of guy if you're 378 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: three four he can play in. You can move him inside. 379 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: He's a very good piece, and they they're looking for 380 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: defensive piece. I was just a little surprised for a 381 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: team that has a lot of big contracts over the 382 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: years and a lot of salary cap problems that he's 383 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: getting paid like a superstar. Yeah, their GM hasn't done 384 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the best job with the contracts. I think two years 385 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: ago he was the best three four end not named J. J. 386 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: Watt last year and that contributed to the surprise finished 387 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: and then last year he didn't play as well when 388 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: they were the worst defense in the NFL, I think, 389 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: so I think he has to take some of the 390 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: blame for that, but it's hard to know because the 391 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: whole defense melted down. Guys, we were Kenny Kara, who 392 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: we were writing long glowing posts about as a rookie 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: bench last season, so who knows what was going on. 394 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan's is amazingly only the second first round pick 395 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: under Sean Payton to sign a second contract with the 396 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: same and the first one was mark Ingram, who did 397 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: not really sign a big deal. So they have really 398 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: struggled to identify kind of core Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: That's Mickey Lomis and Sean p and I put put 400 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: them both on it. So they've especially too much time 401 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: with the Pelicans in New Orleans. If you're Mickey Lomis, 402 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: by the way, better name Cameron Jordan's or Jordan Cameron 403 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordans. I don't think it's that close. I don't 404 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: like Jordan as a first name. Don't not in love 405 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: with Jordan's. I like Cameron, So you prefer Kirk, Cameron, 406 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's way to go, Greg, No, that's the last name. 407 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: Don't just like that. I've always been in But that's 408 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: why these kids are now called that. Well, the Browns 409 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: called up Jordan's Cameron, yes, thinking they calling him, and 410 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: they were calling the other one when they drafted him. 411 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: That's a good organization. By the way, Mark, you are 412 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: a big Kirk Cameron fan of his films, this is 413 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: your chance to defend Cameron's honor. Never seen a film 414 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: of his. I did watch his television. The worst story 415 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: about Kirk Cameron, who seems kind of crazy, is when 416 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: he found God or found Jesus Christ at during Growing Pains, 417 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: like in the tale in the Growing Pains Figures Approaching, 418 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: he got he got his girlfriend fired off the show 419 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: because she had a history with Playboy. True story. What 420 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: was the Kirk Cameron uh Dudley Moore movie where they 421 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: switched places, Hey by the Way to sex Father like Son. 422 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: I saw that twice at that they were like thirty 423 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: bodies switch movies in the eighties like that seven I 424 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: was like twelve to eight percent of the people listening. 425 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: Kirk Cameron was a mid level sitcom at level sitcom show. Okay, 426 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: high level sitcom actor on AM mid the upper level 427 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: sitcom show. I don't think people though. Kirk. He was 428 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: on the cover of all the Girl teeny Popper magazines 429 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: when we were in like junior high exactly that by 430 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: the Way West that had a log stay in powers. 431 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: At that point, he was on top of the let's 432 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: see him popping up and knew, like so time you 433 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: know drop he is. He's a big name. West downstairs 434 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: just told us that he has not been to a 435 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: movie since Sideways, which was so that you've seen a 436 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Dudley Moore slash Kirk Cameron movie twice in the theater 437 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: is telling to me this is gonna be hard for 438 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: you guys to believe, but stay with me here you can. 439 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: It's two fifteen. You can watch movies on a personal 440 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: handheld device and wait for it to come to your 441 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: house via Netflix or Amazon. Not a movie magic the experience. 442 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: I love the Banks for the hot tip we all know, 443 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: but I don't think it really reflects on me that 444 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to fight traffic and other human beings 445 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: to go to him. Can I just say something interesting 446 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: about West, who's previously shared with us that he does 447 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: not go to rock concerts because he feels the music 448 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: doesn't translate and he doesn't like to be around people. 449 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Also doesn't go to movie theaters. You're you're inching closer 450 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: into the shut in world with the boxes all around you, 451 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they find your body under 452 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: a pile of clothes, and you know, age forty nine, 453 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean a bomb or two points. I didn't know 454 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: that about concerts. That just eliminated you from that extra 455 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: Wilco ticket. Extra Wilco ticket, Well those were for Dan 456 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: and I. Anyways, I thought, wait, Wilco. Yeah, say I'm 457 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: breaking news. That's what I forgot to tell Danna about. Yeah, 458 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a Wilco show at some point, 459 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: when I think it's in August. He dislayd the preseason 460 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: action the West. I don't actually think that you'll become 461 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: a Hordor and be in your house forever. That was 462 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: the joke. I feel better about my life now because 463 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: I was starting to really do some self reflection. You 464 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: are the most You're you're the social guy. You're the 465 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: one that has everyone over interesting house, is what you mean. 466 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm a very social guy, but I like to have 467 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: people I like around. But you also people I don't 468 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: like around me. You like going to pubs, and I'm 469 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: sure there are many times you went to Huckapoos where 470 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: it was a full house, right, and I knew almost 471 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: everybody in there, so you got okay. So you gotta 472 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: know the people underrated. Moment though in life, at least 473 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: for me, is like the moment you emerge from the 474 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: movies doors back out into the world. You've just been 475 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: in that movie world for a couple of hours. I'm 476 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: back out. I just like a cocoon. I love that. 477 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: That's why I like You're like the caterpillar turning into 478 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: a butterfly. That was like a Cameron Crow monologue. Greg 479 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: just dropped on us. When I leave the magic of 480 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: the theater and open those doors, I look at the 481 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: world in a different way. Crow. All of a sudden, 482 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: bad Finger song comes on. All right, Moving on, Roger Goodell, 483 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: who is the commissioner who you may know that sometimes 484 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: under fire. Uh. He is involved right now in this 485 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady appeal, the four game suspension. Uh. There was 486 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: a chance for the Brady camp or the nfl p 487 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: A to uh, you know, ask Goodell to recuse himself 488 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: from the appeal and have someone else handle the appeal 489 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: of Brady suspension, But Goodell informed the union on Tuesday 490 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: that he will not recuse himself from the June appeal hearing. 491 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: According to a letter obtained by rap Sheet, UM, Brady 492 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: is trying to eliminate that four game suspension. And I 493 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: guess considering that, uh, you know Brady or Goodell was 494 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: involved with handing down the band, that you wouldn't want 495 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: him involved with the appeal. But that's not gonna happen. 496 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: Goodell's involved now, West tell me if I'm right now. 497 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: The final step in all this to kind of soothe 498 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: everything now is Rog slashes a suspension in half and 499 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: then he gets a little bit or even by you know, 500 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: down to one game, gets in crafts good graces. Brady 501 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: still gets punished, the Patriots still pay the money and 502 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: lose the picks, but Brady's back in the field by 503 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: week two or three and everything's okay. Is that how 504 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: it plays out? That's not the sense I give from 505 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: listening to Roger Goodell speak. He doesn't seem conciliatory in 506 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: any fashion. And I think he wants to see the 507 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: text that Brady wasn't given up. I did, like, uh, 508 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: there was a sighting in the letter that it said, 509 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, according to the collective bargaining, using the collective 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: bargaining agreement and common sense. And then he went into 511 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: his point just just basically saying common sense says, I'm 512 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be uh guy that is brought up to 513 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: trial during an appeal if I'm hearing the appeal, and 514 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: common sense says, I'm gonna just keep this guy's I'm 515 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: gonna make the decision you guys, won't. I mean, and 516 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people feel like the Craft and Goodell 517 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: longtime pals, have some sort of win win agreement behind 518 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the scenes. But really, for all the fire that Goodell takes, 519 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: if he goes and reverses or cuts in half reduces 520 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: the decision he made up there so much thought just 521 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: weeks ago, doesn't he look even weaker? I mean, what 522 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: it seems like he's got to stick to me. It's 523 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about job security too. Put out the 524 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: olve branch and maybe it helps you down the line. 525 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: But what they said, though, was that the other thirty 526 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: one teams gained a lot of respect for Goodale for 527 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: coming down hard on the Patriots. He went out of 528 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: his way when I read this letter to say my 529 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: mind is open. And of course, you know you you 530 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: would expect him to say my mind is open. But 531 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I think this was the key part where he said, 532 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: I've publicly expressed my appreciation to Ted Wells and his colleagues. 533 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I'm wedded to their conclusions or their 534 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: assessment of fact. Blah blah blah. I may reach a 535 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: different conclusion about Brady's conduct inter discipline imposed. I think 536 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: the door is open the way that the Patriots ended 537 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: up not fighting this to knock it down, to buy 538 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: a game whenever. That's what I would predict whenever in 539 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: life you find yourself in a corner, you're in trouble. 540 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: You he told us what's to do. Right there? You 541 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: throw Ted Wells under the bus and you are fine. 542 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: That's how you operate. Because they kind of made it 543 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: like Troy Vincent and made the decision before that. He 544 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: was the one that really recommended the suspension, even though 545 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: of course Goodell has to approve. That was Troy Vincent 546 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: and Ted Wells as proof. And now Goodell in theory 547 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: could come to a different Greg, would you like to 548 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: go in? Oh, two things? Two sandwich props with you? 549 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Greg Scales at one? Okay, that's fine. Now you don't 550 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: have to ask anymore. I say it will be frozen. 551 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: There's no gross. It will be reduced by at least 552 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: two games. Take me on a sandwich now, because I 553 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: don't want to root against that. That's a good you know, 554 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: I I think it'll be one game, But why would 555 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to? I would hope there's no games. I 556 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: don't want to root against a good outcome for the Patriots. 557 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: My my job, my life as a fan, overwhelms my 558 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: desire for I thought your whole thing is taking every 559 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: sandwich bet Well not, I don't. I don't like this. Okay, 560 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: how about on a sandwich that Entourage makes at least 561 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: thirty million in this weekend. Well, it's tricky, it has 562 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, but it's a Wednesday opening. 563 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I've done some research and al right, first three days 564 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: in post production? Can you put that horrible Jane's Addiction 565 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: song behind this conversation? Which horrible jan which one? It's 566 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: the opening credits for the show. Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, 567 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: something like that. I hope you have, Jane says a 568 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Horrible Jane's Addictions. No no, no, no, that you meant 569 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Pincott stealing or no that I'm gonna be stealing your sandwich? Okay? 570 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: And now, yeah, I under I'm saying for the five 571 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: day opening weekend, no five see five days too long. 572 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: You just added two whole days. That's not Come on, 573 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying the three best days they have won't equal 574 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: thirty million. Wow, I think you need to get on 575 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Dan's wavelengked here go with the whole five days. Well, 576 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: that's insane. He just changed it from three days to never. 577 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I never formally laid out the what it was. I'm 578 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: not gonna be a man. I'm not doing that. I 579 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: think that's where that's that changes the whole game. So 580 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: it won't make thirty million over five days, or it 581 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: will over three days, but over five days and things. 582 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I think it would over five days that accomplished nothing 583 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: and was not satisfied. Right, we've made no all right, 584 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: how about this over three days? Okay? Okay, moving on. 585 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: So you got swindled the Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos 586 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: to sandwiches. Oh no, you didn't take the first one, 587 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: which three days? The first three days right, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 588 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Monty Ball and see West just to get back at 589 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: me for the hoarders is going to go see on 590 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: tracks like thirty times? No, have you ever seen that dress? 591 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: The show would watch? That would be helpy? Yeah, I 592 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: just realized it would help. I watched the first three 593 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: or four you uh seasons in the binge watching category. Yeah, 594 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: and I liked the first couple of seasons, and then 595 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: I was out a spoiler. All the bros end up 596 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: okay in the end. Hey, Thenny, what's gonna happen? We're 597 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: in trouble. Relax, guys, we could always go back to 598 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Queens Movie. That was every episode ever of Entourage. Everything 599 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: everyone had made a yen in it too, uh. Alright? 600 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Moving on, Monty Ball and c J. Anderson are two 601 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: of the top running backs for the Broncos. C J. 602 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Anderson obviously broke out last year looked really good and 603 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: when he was on the field. Manti Ball, who entered 604 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: the season as not only uh the presumptive lead running back, 605 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: he was also making the leap candidate for around the NFL, 606 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't work out that way. He struggled with injuries. Anderson 607 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: had a big year. However, Ball thinks that he has 608 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: a chance to really be a big time player this year. 609 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Still had this to say, I'm really looking forward to 610 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: splitting carries with him. Referring to Anderson, I think we're 611 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: two really good backs in the system that we love 612 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: to keep the ball on the ground, so we love 613 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: this system. He views himself as one B to CJ. 614 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Anderson's one as you call him BS. No, he views 615 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: himself that way because that's what the coaches have told him. 616 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: I did this post purely as a service for the 617 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: fantasy footballers who keep falling from the banana and the 618 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: tailpipe in Denver that whoever is their number one running 619 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: back in August is going to finish the year as top. 620 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, Fabriano has always got like Monte Ball as 621 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: a first round pick. Everybody this year is gonna have c. J. 622 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Anderson's the first round pick, and like three different running 623 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: backs are gonna start for the Broncos this year throughout 624 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: the season. Who is in that team since Throrell Davis? 625 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: Whoever sustained There have been breakout guys, but who's ever 626 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: sustained it over two years? Portoise for two years? Maybe 627 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: that's about it for a couple of years. Yeah, Anderson 628 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: is good. I mean that's I think the zone blocking 629 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: scheme that Kubiak brings his reason for optimism for both. 630 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they talk about ball here as just different. 631 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: In quotes, one coach said and I hope so, because 632 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: I found him very impressive last year, but he was 633 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: injured for because he was injured from Week one and 634 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: that and that we don't hear about some of those injuries. Sometimes. 635 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with with West's hot take in 636 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: what you said, Mark, I I think c J. And 637 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that he's going to even be the 638 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: starter Day one at all. This is a guy that 639 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and had former coaches Adam Gates 640 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: talking trash basically about his work ethic. That is a 641 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: major red flag. We we talked about red flags and 642 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: the build up to the real draft. This should be 643 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: a one in the build up to your fantasy draft. 644 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: If ex coaches are talking about your work ethic after 645 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: you made the Pro Bowl on what seemed like a 646 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: breakout season. He is getting drafted right now, West as 647 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: the tenth player in fantasy league, right about where Monte 648 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Ball was getting drafted last year. You know, I would 649 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: much rather just take Ball and whoever else makes that 650 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: ross Well, Monty Ball was in our making the Leap 651 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: series last year. Maybe we don't put c J. Anderson 652 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: this time. Not to say that c J. Anderson was 653 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: not impressively is I think Gregg particularly was I did 654 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: with him. That's the thing. I did really like him. 655 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: But he also system right, and that's a that's a 656 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: big change. Didn't he shed tho twenty pounds or something 657 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: that he's he's well, one pounds is like you have 658 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: to cut off my arms. He's got time to put 659 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: thirt team back on and all throughout July. We should 660 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: we should we But for someone that they're saying as 661 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: no work ethic and couldn't care less, you got to 662 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: do a little bit of work. He changed his diet. 663 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Maybe on Thursday we'll go through some tropes. Yeah, act 664 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking Sean, as an assignment, you should create 665 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: some sort of trope siren or maybe not a siren 666 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: but trope alert sound drop that you can drop throughout 667 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: the off season whenever the tropes pop up. So you 668 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: think about that and don't blow it. And also I 669 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: have ah this probably will happen when TV's back, but 670 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: just be aware that I have a Jock jams h 671 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: trivia coming up at you at some point. That's what 672 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. If you do a good job this 673 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: week though, Okay, well I have two weeks to prove 674 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: myself until my birth day on June. The last two 675 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: producers we gave assignments to Zach Goldman is not even 676 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: in the country anymore. Both exported Crystal Richard, who knows 677 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: where she's She's a published author. Where's our stitcher too? Like? 678 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: Where is everything? Everything? And everyone is? It leaves us? 679 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like it's at the end of the day. 680 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we're driving them away totally utterly alone, that is 681 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: how it is. Then this is twice you've painted a 682 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: picture with the mustache living on the edge of town 683 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: with a cat named Boo and a bunch of soup cans. Alright, anyway, 684 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. Alright, So news is done, assignment handed 685 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: out to Sully and uh, you know, I got some 686 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: sandwiches from Greg or at least one sandwich. That's good. 687 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: I trust you, America. I wouldn't do that. That's why 688 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm I will never ever see this movie. But I 689 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: am absolutely certain there are enough meat heads. I feel 690 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: like it's gonna make ten million in New England alone. 691 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: Greg's siding with the general population for the first time 692 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: as as an adult. Yeah, I was. I was just 693 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: thinking everybody from South America is too smart to give 694 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: to give all these clowns more money. But I don't know. 695 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: The Sex and the City has had two pretty months 696 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: the movies, so that that's working against it's coming out 697 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: like five years too late. Well that's yeah, I mean, 698 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: that's another part of it. I don't know how this 699 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: movie got made, but it is, and we're gonna be 700 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: tracking it closely. I'm looking forward to the How to 701 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Make It in America movie coming out in twenty It 702 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: was a really bad show about sneakers. Did not have cable, 703 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: all right, So alright, so people are doing power. That's 704 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: this endless television woes. We didn't grow up with cable 705 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: or microwaves or answering machines or anything like that. Let's 706 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: do some power rankings. And by the way, I was 707 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: again and I was talking to Mark about this, Uh 708 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: the Boss, why we should have power? I like the 709 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: sound of that, Yeah, you said, Mark the Boss. I know, Okay, 710 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: switching the I'm thinking of the future when Mark pushes 711 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: you out in a massive power play. But power rankings 712 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: in which all six of the around the NFL writers 713 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: are involved, and it's a weighted voting process, and then 714 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: we have it each week, and then we could cite 715 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: it randomly, like, oh, here are the cults that a 716 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: number eight team on the Around the NFL power rankings. 717 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: I like that by weighted, you mean that I get 718 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: more weight than your Listen. Again, you're the boss for 719 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: now before Mark pushes you out in a massive power play. 720 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you could do whatever you want awaited system. No, 721 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: I think we that would be weird. That would be weird. 722 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I like that idea a lot now, talking about power 723 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: plays and political maneuvering. You know, power rankings. People want. 724 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: You know, there is a writer for power rankings on 725 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: the site, and sometimes you know, people just want Okay, 726 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: that's the power rankings for the site. So we'd be 727 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: looked on as an upstart that's trying to knock off 728 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: the old power. Maybe we like to call it something 729 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: we could use lose power and just call it something 730 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: else rankings. But I also like the idea of like 731 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: directly angering people within the building. Yeah, I've never been 732 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: afraid of a little inter office fight. It keeps a conflict. 733 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: There will be a lot of like you know, uh 734 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: s talking about the around the NFL team. If we 735 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: launch our own power rank. It's like Handsome Hank, the 736 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: notorious ump thank you blanked out there. When he hears this, 737 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna roll his eyes and immediately come over to 738 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: Greg's not hopping to it. I've already been told that 739 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 1: I cannot do any power rankings of any sort for 740 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: this company anyway. So all right, Greg, well, alright, so 741 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: let's do a little power ranks, just individual and for now. 742 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: The top five teams right now in your mind on 743 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: June two, and the bottom five, so the top dogs, 744 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: the bottom feeders. Let's start with the We'll start, We'll 745 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: skew positive to start, and Mark Sessler will get going 746 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: with his top five five to one. Please Mark, top five. 747 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's the off season and everyone just talks 748 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: about look at what everyone did to get better. I'll 749 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: about a team that didn't signed a single free agent, 750 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: just went and drafted the guys they want to draft, 751 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers number one. But I said five to one. 752 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: But spoiler alert, that's all right. Now we're going go 753 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: second best team. I'm gonna go with Seattle Seahawks. Reason 754 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: not to do that. Number three. I don't care what 755 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: the roster tells me. Ever, New England Patriots, best coach 756 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: team in the league. Number four Denver Broncos, assuming Peyton 757 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: Manning does not completely fall off a cliff, I'm believing 758 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: at this pointing will not. Uh. Number five Indianapolis Cults, 759 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: the Cults of Indie. Mm hmmm interesting. I'm surprised that 760 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: you put the Cults there. Yeah, but you've already been 761 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: on record saying you see them getting wiped out in 762 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: a blowout in the playoffs again this year. Am I 763 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: I thought you did. Does it sound accurate to me? West? Uh? 764 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: If you could maybe five to one, you could have 765 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of drama here. My I think there's 766 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: more drama in in the five spot for me. Okay, well, okay, 767 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: go ahead, because I know what my first four are. 768 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: But all right, go ahead, what are your first four? 769 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm with Mark. I've got Packers one Seahawks too, just 770 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: like Mark does. I think they're clearly the two top 771 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. They're the two powerhouses. I have 772 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: the Colts third. Uh. The Patriots and Broncos are weaker 773 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: this year. The Colts are stronger. Um. I love their 774 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: offense it's loaded, and their defense. Somehow they pick up 775 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Trent Cool, they pick up Kenda Langford, 776 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: they pick up a couple impressive rookies, and everyone says 777 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: they didn't improve their defense in any way. They get 778 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Robert Mathis coming back from an injury. I think they're improved. 779 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: So I'll take the Colts third. I've got the Ravens 780 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: penciled in at four. I'm not sold on that one though, 781 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: but I think that the I think that pairman can 782 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: make and make an impact right away, So I like 783 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: that their defense. You they were solidly in your top four. 784 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: I like that. No, I think the first three are 785 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: there's a gap between three and then the rest of them, 786 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: and then for five, they don't know what the Patriots 787 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: have at quarterback from month. Peyton Manning is the biggest 788 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: mystery in the NFL to me right now, and Carson 789 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: Palmer is also a big mystery. So those three teams 790 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: are eliminated. I feel more confident about the Steelers question 791 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: mark at defense than I do about the other question 792 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: marks at quarterback. So the Steelers are five to me, 793 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: only four games there with Brady, you know, four if 794 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: they go and four they're not gonna win. Who just 795 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: missed the cut, So who would be six? Then Patriots, 796 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Broncos and Cardinals. Okay, what about you? Who who just missed? 797 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: Who's six? I have to agree with the the situation 798 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I had Steelers is my six team? Okay? Cool? 799 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: Uh as far as mine, I'm also with you guys, Packers, 800 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: Seahawks one too. I got the Steelers at three. I 801 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: just I keep going acted how great they looked heading 802 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and that looked like a complete team 803 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: that was rolling. And then Bell gets hurt and you're 804 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: not even counting back from five. Now now I feel, 805 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: once it's been established, it's over. You know, maybe there's 806 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: more drama, don't this? Maybe maybe it is. They're all 807 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna no. It is actually absolutely correct because if we're 808 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: all in that same realm. But anyway, I thought the 809 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: Steelers were the a f c's most dangerous team last 810 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: year before Bell got hurt. I I think that you know, 811 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: he's missing a game started season, they'll be okay there. 812 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: I love Roethlisberger, who was getting seems to be getting better. 813 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: I think they're always in the mix. And I think 814 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: the Steelers going a deep run this year. So I 815 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: think they're three I got the Ravens at four, almost 816 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots in New England and the playoffs. Good coaching, 817 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: great quarterback or very good quarterback. They got running games 818 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: of defense, and uh then I put the Broncos at five. 819 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: I won't. I'm not gonna put dirt on Peyton Manning yet. 820 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: And for the reasons West said about the quarterback un 821 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: certainty with New England and you know, a better division 822 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: they're playing in. I got the Patriots just on the 823 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: outside looking in, but by no means that I counting out. 824 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: They're not in any top five? Were they in your 825 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: top five? They were number three from me arn marks Dan. 826 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: Are you saying that it's a like a preternatural sense 827 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: I have for show business that I without any instruction, 828 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: started at one, knowing that that's where it was. Top heavy, 829 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: zero drama. Get into the drama, Hollywood, kid, Hollywood, and 830 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: on top of the world. I got a little drama 831 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: at the top. At least I have a different number 832 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: one that I have the Seahawks one the Packers to 833 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: either way just threw up both hands in the end 834 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: celebration and now he's wait. Literally was a Seahawks fan. 835 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: Seahawks fan I'm not from Alabama, Northern Alabama, right now, 836 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: sah let me guess okay, good, well four, Well that's 837 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: even a little question. Well, were you also coming of 838 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: age when there was no team in Tennessee? Yes, okay, okay, 839 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow it. What in Tennessee coming of age? 840 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you grew up you don't have 841 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: a local I'm just it's just image, pree. Oilers move 842 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: to your home. Technically I went. I went from San 843 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: Antonio to Tennessee, so really didn't have So Seahawks are natural? 844 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: What well, but you should have been the Oilers? Then 845 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: oilers to the Titans. Uh No, I don't know Houston, 846 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: San Antonio. There's about you weren't a Seahawks fan before 847 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: the turn of the Central You're not allowed when you 848 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: were a kid growing up when it includes TV? What 849 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: grade did you move? When did you move to Tennessee? 850 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: Sixth grade? Al right? What team were kids into then? 851 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: Or was it was it the well by then? The Titans? Yeah, 852 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: the Titans were there, but East Tennessee it's it's more 853 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: balls country. Why do people have to become a fan 854 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: of the team of the where they live that's ridiculous. 855 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Most people find that happens naturally. Well, it doesn't have to, 856 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: though most people should be. I was just curious, Mark. 857 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: I praise you for your decision. Good luck. Mark immediately 858 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: worried that he's not going to inflict the sun his 859 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: sons on the Browns, I mean the brown He's like, 860 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: they have to be fair. I would never make them 861 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: do that neck pot m vps right here by the way. 862 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: First of all, first of all, we got to mark 863 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: you down. You cannot point in an audio podcast. Nobody 864 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: knows who you're pointing at. Yeah. I liked what he 865 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: was gregor Mark. Alright, well listen, Uh, this could be 866 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: this would be the equivalent West tell me if I'm wrong. 867 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: If Mark pulls this out as the equivalent of like 868 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: when the Rockets and Hakim won the title with Jordan, 869 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: so you win it, you would get the m v P, 870 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: but it would be a little bit of well that's 871 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: that's you're saying that Jordan's entire career is cooked, because 872 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: that's what happens every week when TD picks his m 873 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: v P. So the parallel was ridiculous. Uh did you 874 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: I never finished? Yeah? You ever started? I said the Seahawks. 875 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: They got the best roster. I think they're won by 876 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, to me, there one every year 877 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: until prove with it. Otherwise by just because you got 878 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: the Packers, I'm putting the Patriots third. I mean, they're 879 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: there every year with twelve. And do you guys always 880 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: talk about it. If the Steelers can win games with 881 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: Dennis Dixon or Charlie Batch when Roethlisberger's just spending, why 882 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: why can't they win to the I know everyone in 883 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Boston thinks that Garoppolo is the second best quarterback in 884 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: the country behind Tom brad. I think he'll be good 885 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: enough to win two or three games and a number 886 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: of times. I mean they're gonna win eleven games down 887 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: the stretch. You got the I got the Broncos fourth. 888 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: I just think top to bottom, that's maybe the most 889 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: talented roster in the a f C. And I think 890 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: they upgrade. I really think this is underrated. John Fox 891 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: and Jack del Rio, you're out the door and you 892 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: get Wade Phillips and Gary Kubiak. The more I thought 893 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: about it, I think that's a big time upgrade in 894 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: terms of scheme and all that. And then I have 895 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Number five. I think their defense will get better. 896 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: And you gotta look at the court. None of those 897 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: Broncos coach an upgrades mean anything. If Peyton managed the 898 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: same quarterback he was in December and January. Who just 899 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: misses the cut for you? Oh? I didn't have the Colts, 900 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: so they would pretty close. All right, let's go through 901 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: the bottom five and Mark, I know you know, do 902 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: you want to go one to five or five? No? 903 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: You tell me, why don't we go this? Well, yeah, 904 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go. Your team get worse, get worse, 905 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: get worse. Alright, my team is the Bucks and I 906 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: this is hard because all these teams seem to have 907 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: gotten better to me, so I you know, I'm still 908 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: working this out. Number twenty nine the Redskins, who I 909 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, they just bore me. I'm board watching that team. 910 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: Thirty the Jaguars, because how about prove it before I 911 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: loft you up ten spots like I did last offseason. 912 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: You're a lover scorned fair enough. Thirty one the Titans. 913 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: I understand the two of these teams I mentioned have 914 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: new quarterbacks, but they have not played it down and 915 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to crown them yet and number three 916 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: or thirty two the Raiders because they're the Raiders belong 917 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: all right, Uh, Christopher Wesley got who just missed the cut? 918 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: Who's you? Well? I put the Browns, but you know, 919 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: look if that if they're under the season, all right. 920 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: I kind of agree with Mark. All these teams are better. 921 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: But the guideline for me is the last the worst 922 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: five teams in the league almost every year don't have 923 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's the deciding factor. So I've got twenty 924 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: eight the Rams. I don't think Nick Foles the answer. 925 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: I watched his tape and he was terrible last season. 926 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: They never have an offense. They're the definition of mediocrity 927 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: every single year. Disagrees with that for sure. Well, I 928 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: think one of these years the Rams are gonna win 929 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: more than seven games, but I don't know when it's 930 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna be. The Browns. I have next again, I don't 931 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: And I actually like Josh McCown, but I don't think 932 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: he's good enough to kind of bring, you know, whatever 933 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: they have at WAD thirty. I have the Titans. I 934 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: like them for the future, but that doesn't mean that 935 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: Marriott is going to come in and light lighted up 936 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: this year. Thirty one the Bucks again, same thing, rookie 937 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: quarter act. I expect Winston to lead the NFL and interceptions. 938 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is still a mess, and 939 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: who knows about the running game. Thirty two the Raiders 940 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: because that's where they belong. Yeah, you don't think they're 941 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: they've gotten better to the degree they could squeak out 942 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 1: six wins. The Raiders. Let's again, like I said last 943 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: podect let's see if they can push the ball past 944 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: the forty yard line and then we'll worry about win 945 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm worried about by the way seven yards down the fields. 946 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: Let's keep rye on this Derek Carr situation. If he 947 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: is not healthy or needs surgery, all bets are off 948 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: with that team because they need him to be better. 949 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: And he's not even healthy right now. But still a 950 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: long way to training camp. All right. Uh here's my 951 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: uh sorry, Mark. I think the Browns and it's the 952 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: quarterback position more than anything else. I don't think they 953 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: have answers there. Twenty nine and the Titans. I think 954 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: Mariotta has got to learn the pro game and what 955 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: I just I wish we had the looks on Mark's 956 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: face would be say the Browns, well, I can't last year, 957 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: last year, I was all on fire about this, but 958 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 1: I disagree with you. And you know what, it literally 959 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 1: looks like you're eating and then which is not. That's 960 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: not the exercise, all this exercise. I think it's more 961 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sick of the Browns being kind of pumped 962 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: up the year after year as a team that's ready 963 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: to bounce back. I kinda the waist last season ended. 964 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I don't like what they 965 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: did with the quarter Rocks. All Right, Marks Mariota, you 966 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: know he's gonna take some lumps this year. He's gotta 967 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: learn how to play at this level. We don't even 968 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 1: know if he's good. The Titans are gonna stink thirty. 969 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: The Redskins, you know r G three that J Gruden 970 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: RG three things, which was nasty last year. They put 971 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: them together again, Let's see what happens. I don't think 972 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. The Raiders at thirty one. I 973 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: do not have them as the worst team. I think, uh, 974 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're near that area, um and they could 975 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: easily go to and fourteen again. But I think the 976 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars will be worse. I thought the Fouler injury was 977 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 1: devastating to them. He could have been a difference maker 978 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: on their defense. And uh, I'm not sold on Blake 979 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: Bortles and all the trope talk about his new cateics 980 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. So I think they 981 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: will be very bad. Once again, where did you have 982 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders? I had them, and the Forts just missed 983 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: it for me. There again, Jim town Seula, you know, 984 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, unfortunately not a 985 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: great way. It's like he got a helicopter to the 986 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: Titanic after it hit the iceberg, which is not fair. 987 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: This is this is tough. I really don't feel like 988 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: there are that many terrible looking teams. We always think that, 989 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: but there will be not usually. I do think there's 990 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: a few more. I don't know. I don't I feel 991 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: it was smarter. It was hard. I came up with 992 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: four that I thought deserved to be on this list. 993 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: The Raiders at twenty nine. I did not have them 994 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: at the bottom. Okay, waiter, you're just going all over 995 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: the place. I'm skip, Well, what Greg total iconoclast? All right, 996 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: I'll go twenty. I don't believe it, though. I need 997 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: to come up with a team that I believe is 998 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: really gonna stink. I had the Browns written, but I 999 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I think they could be good. Wouldn't 1000 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: surprise me. Although if you look at their skill position players, 1001 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 1: that's where it's bad. Well, that's important in the NFL. 1002 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: Last night, you know, I have a post going up 1003 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: the worst position groups. They're in the mix at quarterback, 1004 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and tight end as other than that, but 1005 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: their offensive line is great and their defense could be. 1006 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: Let me just pointing in the sports gods, sports gods, 1007 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: please give the Cleveland Cavaliers the NBA title. Give the 1008 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: people of Ohio something. Okay, I guess I just argued 1009 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,959 Speaker 1: to put the Browns. Raiders are twenty nine, little higher 1010 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: than you. Defense was fine last year. That's very generous. 1011 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: Thirty the Chicago Bears. I like that Cutler. Finally, well, 1012 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: let's you know, I'm not into the coaches, I'm not 1013 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: into the defense. There's you know, a lot of chains there. 1014 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: That's fair bucks. Thirty one, and then I have the 1015 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: tight Tunes as the worst team in the leak. There 1016 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: you go, Wow, that's a tough spot for Marcus Mario 1017 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: to and I don't think that coaching staff on offense 1018 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: is gonna but we're bound to be wrong that because 1019 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: we basically have the Titans and Bucks picking dead last again, 1020 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. We basically tans. I mean, who 1021 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 1: is the best chance to shock as Jaguars, Raiders or Titans. 1022 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: I didn't put the Jaguars on this list. I would 1023 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: have I would have him in the top twenty or so. Well. 1024 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: I think this is the year they make that leap 1025 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: up to I think their defense is gonna be much better. 1026 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: I actually am not just saying this. I think the 1027 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: Raiders are not as bad as I put them. Which 1028 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: is the worst team in the league. I just don't 1029 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: know who to make that team. But I think they're 1030 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: better than that. You know they'll prove it. I think 1031 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: it's it's a tougher to pick the tough teams than 1032 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: it is to pick your top five. If Dan wasn't 1033 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 1: sure about China stage a coup against the official NFL 1034 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: dot com power ring, he's all he's gotta do is 1035 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: look at the current version that's up right now, number 1036 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty six on the list. Of New York Jack. Let 1037 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: me guess whatever. Let me guess where the Cowboys are 1038 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: talking about the Porsche the New York Jets. Oh, the 1039 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys are number six on the It's time to stage 1040 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: a revolution, a power rankings revolution at NFL dot com 1041 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: had some hanks like throwing something through his screen right now. 1042 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Chiefs love out there too. I 1043 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: feel like Peter King, we talked about his power rankings. 1044 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: Let's not talk about the top is the Chiefs at four. 1045 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: I think a team like the Chiefs or the Lions 1046 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: are more likely to be in the bottom five. That's 1047 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 1: what happens. There's ups and downs every year, but it's 1048 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: tough to predict which team is going to have that 1049 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: kind of free fall. I think. I think Peter King 1050 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: gave his intern a box of teams and numbers and 1051 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: the guy just slipped it up in the air and 1052 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: it it just got lost, and he just put them 1053 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: all the back together haphazardly. That's how it happened. I 1054 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna get Peter King on the show. 1055 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: Thank God. All right, that is our show. That is 1056 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday's edition to Around the NFL podcast. We will be 1057 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: back on Thursday Day with another show. We'll get into 1058 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: some trope talk and maybe maybe we'll hit up the 1059 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: mail bag again. We'll see if you guys delivered some 1060 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: more good questions, all that good stuff. Thank you very 1061 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: much to Mr Sully behind the Glass. Good job, good start. 1062 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: Since Dan Hands is signing up for the Sizzler, the Mailman, 1063 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: the Boss and Heyo Sully behind the Glass fill Thursday,