1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, the rookies are in town. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: That's eight draft picks plus twelve undrafted free agents. It's 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Rookie Minicamp, their first taste of life in the NFL, 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and of course, our first look at them in a 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform or at least Cardinals practice gear. We talk 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: about what we want and hope to see. But first 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: coaching news we can finally talk about. It's Cardinals Cover two, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Episode five sixty four, and it starts now. Welcome to 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: dot com, Slash podcasts Going for Hopkins one hand to 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So most of this is new news, even 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: for US. Cardinals promoted five assistants, which I'll get to 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: here in a moment. M J. It's the not so 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: new news though that I want to start with Matt Burke. 18 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I think he's been in the building for what maybe 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: three months maybe, I mean it's it's been a while, 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: but it is finally official announced as the new defensive 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: line coach, former Eagles defensive line coach last season he 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: was with the Jets. But the big thing is, and 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: we always talk about it, relationships, connections. Reunited with Vance 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Joseph the third different time Burke and Joseph will be 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: working together. Yeah, we got a chance to see him 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: and they finally officially and I think they just wanted 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: to wait. And obviously we'll get into some of the 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: other promotions. But you know, I thought Brinson Buckner did 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a really good job. The Cardinals did try to retain him. 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Obviously got a chance to go to Jacksonville. But the 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: fact is that this guy's been around, and you know, 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: sometimes a new voice or a different voice will help. 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Even though I thought buck got the most out of 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: the players that it was here, But to me, you know, 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, you and I were having lunch and normally 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: they start bringing people through and we don't know what 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: their positions are because they were in suits and they're 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: meeting with different people, and a lot of people think 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: he looks like Jeff Rogers. Speaking of man I can 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: I can see that with the with the beer. Yeah yeah, 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I can see that all right. Just make sure you 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: don't call him jeff. You can get around a lot 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: of that by just going hey, coach, Yeah, that's a 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: good point. Kind of equals everyone. You know, that's that's 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: a that's a that's a veteran move right there. Now, 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: I think the big news is Sean Jefferson. He is 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: the associate head coach and the wide receivers coach and 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: to me, you know, and we'll get into Cam Turner 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: and become the co passing coordinator, quarterbacks coach. And also 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple who was actually assistant to jeff Sean Jefferson, 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: and we know what he did. So to me, these 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: guys deserved it. They worked their way up. But it's 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: nice to see Sean Jefferson because you know, if you 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: don't have that coordinator tag, all of a sudden, people 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: don't think that you can be a coordinator or a 56 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: head coach. And we know that he commands the room. 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna get the most out of these players. He 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was really besides us bringing up the fact they want 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: to move around del more about around more, get that 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: route tree going. I'm sure he's just look looking at it, 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood Brown, and how can he help this team? 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: So and again Spencer Whipple, He's worked his way up. 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I know there were some college teams looking at him, 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: possibly as an offensive coordinator. But when you have a 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: head coach and a GM that are extended, the grass 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: isn't always grotten on the other side. And then you 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: throw in Mike BERKOVICI Burkle's been here for a few 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: years now. He's an offensive assistant. I think he was 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: able to take Jim Drey's drop who went to Chicago 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Bears to be the tight end coach, and he'll assist 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: with everything else. But he got a promotion well deserved. 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: He's put his time in. He could still sling it. 73 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: He could still sling it. And Kenny Bell is the 74 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: chief to the staff offense assistant. So he's obviously, you know, 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: will be Cliff Kinsbury's right hand man, in which he's 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: been since he's been here. So this is what happens 77 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: when you you know obviously, Well, I don't feel like 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: I should say this every single time. Nobody was happy 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: how this season, and but there was enough blame to 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: go around but you want to keep good coaches, and 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: they have a mixture of youth and experience on this staff. 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: And you look at the most important positions obviously d 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: line old line wide receiver, right, I mean he could 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: say him all I mean inside outside of the defensive back. 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: So and I'm sure you know if Vance would have 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: went somewhere else, he probably would have tried to take 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: a couple of guys. So you know, of answers to me, 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: one of the best coordinators in football. Now it's about 89 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: him just scheming up and the players playing to what 90 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: he wants to do, versus freelancing fans. Joseph interviewed with 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I believe what was it once or 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: did he get a second interview? Just once? So one time? 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right, because if he had left, who knows, 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: maybe he would have taken a handful or a couple 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: of different guys with him to Miami. But he stays put. 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: And you look at the promotions. Really, this coaching staff 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: relatively intact, even since Kingsbury has arrived. I mean there's 98 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: been a change at wide receivers coach, there's been a 99 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: change at defensive line. Other than that, the positions that 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: is solid and that's continuity. Players will change, but the 101 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: continuity and maintaining hey getting better each and every year, 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: that learning, that teaching, So it does mean something. And 103 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: then when you have the head coach get a contract extension, yeah, 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: you want to make sure you keep that coaching staff intact. 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: And I do think it's important for the continuity of 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: this franchise. Well, I think it's also stupid. You know, 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about because if nobody gets 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: extended and you're going into the fourth year, and if 109 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals they could have a better team on paper 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: and finish with the same record, and now in me 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: and you make the playoffs, but how do you finish? 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: So their stability and I think you know by the 113 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: general manager and the head coach getting extended. Coaches, I 114 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: mean they live a tough life and they signed up 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: for it, but they moved their families all around. And 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: it's nice to say I can raise my kids here 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: in Arizona. They can go to school, you know, proximity, 118 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: whether it's a you know, on the West coast. So 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of benefits. But the grass isn't always greener. 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: And once you have, you know, as you said, continuity 121 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: and stability and your staff, and you're not looking over 122 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: your shoulder. I think everyone knows their job, and I 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: think with Spencer Whipple and Cam Turner it's almost like 124 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: you've got a passing game coordinator. We know that Coogs 125 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: is the running game coordinator in between him and Hyden 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: and James Sex and they put together the run game. 127 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: So this is in a right, not too many cooks 128 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: in the catching. I'll tim they'll put their input. Cliff 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: obviously calls the place on game date, but they will 130 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: be well prepared, not that they weren't before, but now 131 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: they'll have a little bit more on their plate. You'll 132 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: never hear offensive coordinator. As long as Kingsbury is the 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: head coach. I don't think there will be a designated 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. That's just my opinion. But what you see 135 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: now with the last two offseason, Sean Coogler run game coordinator. 136 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Now it's passing game coordinator, and it's mixed between Cam 137 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Turner and Spencer Whipple. So it's a promotion. It's a 138 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: fancy title, but it does carry more weight now in 139 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: those position rooms, in the meeting rooms, because you're not 140 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: getting promoted just to get promoted. I mean, there's a 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: reason behind the promotion. And with Spencer Whipple, it's great 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: because he got singled out really back in Week six 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen as far actually in twenty twenty one. 144 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: So last season in Cleveland, that game in which Kingsbury 145 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: missed and all of a sudden, not last second, but 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Hoday night, it was all or Spencer. You're you're the 147 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: play caller. You're going to be the one that's in 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: the year of Kyler Murray and that might have been 149 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: one of the better all around performances when you talk 150 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: about offense, defense and special teams. That victory in Cleveland, 151 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: and it was Spencer Whipple calling the plays that day. Yeah, 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And I thought it was a collaboration. You know, obviously 153 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: he had Sean Coogle over there. Colt McCoy knows the 154 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: offense and you know, I'm sure Sean Jefferson, you know, 155 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: was involved about different packages. So it was a collaboration. 156 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: But he was the you know, the first guy that 157 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Kyler heard, and in fairness to Kyler, I thought he 158 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: imporized in that game. You definitely want to stay on 159 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: the script. But I thought they were always ahead of 160 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the Browns in that game. And when you can control tempo, 161 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: you can do a lot of different things. But he again, 162 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: he definitely earned a promotion and just like all the 163 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: other guys, and the good news is they're going to 164 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: be here for the next few years. One quick notes 165 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: on Matt Burke, new defensive line coach. I'll say this, 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: and we've discussed the defensive line, whether it's a defensive 167 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: end or defense to tackle, and there's no new face 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: in that defensive line ruin outside of the three undrafted 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: free agents that will be here this weekend. And we'll 170 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: see if they're here past this weekend or however long 171 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: they might be here, but you'll lose it. Jordan Phillips, 172 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Corey Peters is not back, and that defensive line needs 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: to show some improvement, not from the outside, but from 174 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the middle, that interior pressure. So maybe a new voice, 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe a different scheme, or that relationship between Burke and 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: coach Joseph knowing what vance Joseph likes to do from 177 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint. Again, they were together in Cincinnati from 178 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen. Burke was the linebackers coach 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: Joseph the defensive backs coach, and then together in Miami 180 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Burke was a linebackers coach and Joseph 181 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator. So third time with Burke and Joseph, 182 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: and I think that says something with respects to knowing 183 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: one another. And all right, take my vision and pass 184 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: that along to everyone else in that room. Yeah. I mean, really, 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: they only have really one nose tackle and that would 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: be Richard Lawrence and you know, a lucky foe two. 187 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see him send a little bit 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: here and they you know, maybe they'll move JJ Rodo around. 189 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta think right now you'd have JJ 190 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Watton on the left side, Rochard Lawrence in the middle, 191 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: and then Zach Allen on the opposite. I would think 192 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: that they moved them around. So anyway, as we mentioned 193 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of days, Manny Jones defensive lineman 194 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: six four two ninety and then you look at Will 195 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: Miles defensive line six five two seventy nine, and then 196 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: the other defensive lumi is Laurn Stokes and they're all 197 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: undrafted free aidens and they're all going to have an opportunity. 198 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: Now when we start looking at the outside guys, I 199 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: mean Michael Dogbe's two hundred ninety five pounds, I mean, 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: I think it's time for him to make that next step. 201 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: And if you're a Victor Demo KEECHI, yes, he made 202 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: the roster last year being a late you know, a 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: ladder pick. But he's gonna to beat these young guys 204 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: out because you don't have I mean, now salary wise, 205 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to keep him around. But I'm saying if 206 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: two of these street guys are active, just because we're 207 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: they are redrafted, they may have the upper hand. But 208 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: he right now is a guy that can play on 209 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: special teams. And we got a chance to talk to 210 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, four of the draft picks today and I 211 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: think they all know they're going to have to play 212 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: on special teams. Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday Probab, 213 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Right, let's get into it. 214 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: You brought up the fact that the rookies have arrived. 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: They are in the facility that will be on the 216 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: football field this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday. But ahead 217 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: of that, in fact, we do have some news coming 218 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: down on this Thursday. That are the eight draft picks. 219 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Three have signed standard four year contracts. Sixth round draft 220 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: pick running back Kyanta Ingram, sixth round draft pick linebacker 221 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: last excuse me, sixth round draft pick offensive guard Lucida 222 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Smith get ahead to myself. Seventh round draft pick linebacker 223 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: Jesse Looketta. Those three have whether we see more signings 224 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: on Friday or into the weekend or early next week. 225 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: This used to be a big deal when draft picks signed. 226 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Now it's a mere formality. Everything is slotted and it 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: becomes more about language versus years and dollars. But you 228 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: still want to have your guys locked up because it 229 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: makes them feel more comfortable. But again, this will happen 230 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: over time, but it's not a big deal as it 231 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: once was. No, and you know there's been times where 232 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: you had first round picks and they have to sign 233 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: a waiver or they wouldn't practice. And clearly the team's 234 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: not gonna if you get hurt. I mean that's not good, 235 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna like all of a sudden, you 236 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: throw you to the side. They own your rights for 237 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: the next four or five years. Yeah, it's really a 238 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: formality and usually the first time they get in talent 239 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you to take care of the late round picks and 240 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: then he eventually it'll start taking a round taking care 241 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: of the top guys. I mean, at this point, nobody 242 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: should be holding out and you're seeing first round picks. 243 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: That man. A matter of fact, Walker signed with the Jaguars, 244 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: so that kind of sets the the slot system. So 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of those guys we got a 246 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: chance to talk to, including Gante Ingram, and he was 247 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: smiling from ear to ear and he mentioned Luke and 248 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: we'll show that he just signed his contract, so he's 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: a happy man. Absolutely siblings as well. He should be 250 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: in as well as all eight draft picks, including the 251 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: four that way had a chance to speak to or 252 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: hear from, Trey McBride, Cameron Thomas, my j Sanders, and 253 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Keyanta Ingram all walking in wearing cardinal red polos and 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: big smiles on their faces. Draft night, we saw some 255 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: of them, heard all of them. But now face to 256 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: face with a lot of these kids, and yes we 257 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: call them kids, but just the eagerness and the readiness 258 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: to show what they're about. Given this opportunity, Now, what 259 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with that? Opportunity, and we'll see 260 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: how they feel after this three day rookie mini camp. 261 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: How many of them are not tapping out, but their 262 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: heads are swimming with all of the information. Kenny. You 263 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: retain what you're position coach has given to you, what 264 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: the head coach has asked of you to do, and 265 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, maybe get on 266 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: that board a little bit and do some homework. But 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be a busy four days, including their 268 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: arrival on Thursday. Yeah, I don't know, clearly. I don't 269 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: think the tryout guys will get iPads. I don't even 270 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: know if the undrafted but the draft picks. Yeah, and 271 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: the you know, they'll likely be staying in a hotel, 272 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: so I hope they're hydrated. They're obviously going to get 273 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: three meals a day, and they're gonna get well coached 274 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: and then go back to their hotel room, turn that 275 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: ac on and study, study that playbook, try to write 276 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: things down and remember, because you have to be able 277 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: to retain information. Nobody's gonna judge you on what you 278 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: do over the next three days. But when you get 279 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: back for OTAs and you get the training camp again, 280 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: it's a process, but you know, less mistakes, not thinking 281 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: you can play a lot faster, so you want to 282 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: stay out off with trade m Brian mcbrian, Yeah, let's 283 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: go with the I guess I'm trying to I'm trying 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: to put him in a category under himself because without 285 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick, and this was a question 286 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: our colleague Darren Urban asked of McBride. There, without a 287 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: first round draft pick, you go to, all right, who's 288 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: the next highest pick. Well, it's the second round selection, 289 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. So he becomes the face of this draft class, 290 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: and maybe even more so because it's a position that's 291 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: initially you would think, well, they don't really need a 292 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: tight end. You needed there were other positions of greater need, 293 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: at least on the surface, but we don't know about 294 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the help of Max Williams. And then of course Zach Ertz. 295 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Apologies to Zach, but he's not getting any younger. Yeah, 296 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: he's under contract for three years, but who knows after 297 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: this season, after next season. So you've got a young 298 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: kid six four two forty six who is looking forward 299 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: to learning from Ertz and Max Williams being that sponge 300 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: that was the word Trey McBride used, and I like 301 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: that because you don't want to come in thinking that, hey, 302 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I've arrived, I know everything. It's all right. Let me 303 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: walk into this locker room, let me walk in my 304 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: position room. It's all right. Who can I learn from? 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Who can pick the brand? And you've got Zach Ertz, 306 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. And Max Williams, 307 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: who's made a tremendous career out of himself being able 308 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: to block and catch the ball. Yeah, and one thing 309 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: about McBride, he told us, you know, he was a 310 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: three year captain. He was the best tight end in 311 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the country according to the Mackey Award. But he said, 312 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, you always hear three sports star. He was 313 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: a four sports star. Played he played baseball, basketball, football, 314 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: and he wrestled. And you know, I asked him because 315 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, when you play at Colorado State, people are 316 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: going to question the competition. But he went to the 317 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and he stood out and he said, I 318 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: can play with SCC guys. So that was important for 319 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: him to show that. And we all know that. You know, 320 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is probably the biggest interview because you 321 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: can talk to guys during the week if you're not 322 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, and then you can talk to him 323 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: on the side and then at that point, you know, 324 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you start to build the relationships. But he definitely flashed there. 325 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: So it was interesting there and you know, just the process. 326 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: But I can tell you they all were smiling, wearing 327 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: their Cardinal red. But this guy's got some energy. He 328 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: was high energy, as he self described himself, and not 329 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: like a little kid, but he was very amped up, 330 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: and I believe it was Darren asked him. He was like, 331 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: so is this how you are or is it just 332 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: because it's Day one and everything. He's like, no, this 333 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: is this is who I am. I'm a high energy guy. 334 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: So we now know a little bit more about Trey McBride, 335 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: but a couple of things stood out to me. One 336 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: was we always talk about the receiving yards over eleven 337 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: hundred last year and how many one hundred yard receiving games, 338 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: But here, how many opportunities is he going to get? 339 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: He was the focal point of that Colorado State offense. 340 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: He's not going to be the focal point of this 341 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: offense here with the Aros and the Cardinals. But you're 342 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: gonna be asked to do different things. One, if you're 343 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: tied end, you have to block quote Trey McBride again, 344 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: I love blocking. And then he added seventy percent of 345 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: the time at Colorado State he was blocking despite his 346 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: offensive numbers. And then number two quote I think special 347 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: teams are important quote, and he understands that before he 348 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: maybe faces or sees a single offensive snap, he's gonna 349 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: have to make his mark on specialties or be involved heavily. 350 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: And specially well, if you watch the flight plan, you 351 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: know Steve's talking to him, and clearly they didn't think 352 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: he would be there, and he was, and they drafted him. 353 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: But he emphasized, you're gonna have to play on special 354 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: teams and we know that. You know, Max Williams a 355 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: special teams guy. I guess Zach Ertz could do it, 356 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: but you know, you maybe want to save him because 357 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna play forty fifty sixty snaps a game. Yeah, 358 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: and again, if you're a backup, and he could be, 359 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: you know, one A and one B behind Arts is 360 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: because of an experience factor. And obviously Zach knows how 361 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: to run routes in the NFL and he'll he'll learn 362 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: from him. But if you're a backup, you have to 363 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: play on special teams. And I think they're all aware 364 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: of that. All he's importance and and I like what 365 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: he said, though you quote him. He said, you know, 366 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: he threw a stat out three points or less. Usually 367 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown in a lesson the last five minutes. 368 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: But he talked about the importance, and he played on 369 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: special teams at Colorado State, so he's it's not like 370 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: it's something new where he's just this um entitled guy. 371 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: I only catch the ball and the only block I'm 372 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: looking looking forward to. And he kind of hinted that, 373 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, based on his conversations with the head coach, 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: not putting words in his mouth, but this offense may 375 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: look look a little bit different. Maybe in the first 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: he didn't say six weeks, but with twelve personnel to 377 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: utilize matchups, that's all. It's about matchups and make sure 378 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: you protect Kyler Murray. And I think that's why to me, 379 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: out of all of these draft picks on the offensive end, 380 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. And maybe it's too easy of a prediction, 381 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: but Trey McBride, to me, is going to play the 382 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: most of any of these draft picks on offense. Maybe 383 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how early, but certainly over the course 384 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: of the season, because when you look at the two guards, 385 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Lucida Smith and Marky's Hayes, I think injury might be 386 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: the only way we see either of those two guards 387 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: unless one really stands out in training camp. Keyante Ingram 388 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: going to begin as the fourth running back on the 389 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: depth chart, how quickly does he move up? There is 390 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be that number two guy. But right now, again, 391 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: if you watch flight Plan, gentlemanager Steve Khan mentioned Ingram 392 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: as the fourth running back, So that's where we're at 393 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: right now. So I do think McBride very well could 394 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: be that guy as that number two tight end. And 395 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: as Kingsbury told him on draft night, quote get ready 396 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: to play. There ain't no red shirting, all right. And 397 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: I think McBride understands that, certainly knows it. Yeah, I mean, 398 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, a big Jonathan Ward fan, and I'm not. 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: I just don't really like saying he's just a special 400 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: teams player because to me, he can be just as 401 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: good as maybe Chase Edmonds was. You know, I look 402 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: at McBride and Cameron Thomas, Maja Sanders. Those guys are 403 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna play. Those guys are gonna be active, and I 404 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: gotta think what it's all said and done. Ingram maybe 405 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: your second or third running back. He understands playing on teams. 406 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with you about the lineman. They're 407 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: also going to cross train at center, and you want 408 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: to have depth there because you get to you know, November, 409 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, you got some injuries, 410 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: so there'll be a work in progress. You know. Chris 411 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Matthew the corner. We didn't get a chance to talk 412 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: to him, tall and lean, he may be more of 413 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: a depth guy, practice squad guy. And then Jesse Luketa, 414 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what he does. But I gotta think when 415 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: you look at the guys that we talked to today, 416 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have an opportunity to be active on 417 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: game day. All right, Let's stay with that offense and 418 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: talk about Ingram, who addressed the media as well, and 419 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: use the word overwhelming when asked about Thursday, arriving, getting 420 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: your physical, getting your equipments. All of a sudden, you 421 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: got your practice gear and you're gonna hit the field 422 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: in less than twenty four hours. But He mentioned that yeah, 423 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: he wore red and high school, wore red in college, 424 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: and now is wearing red here in the pros. So 425 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: perhaps a lucky color for him. But a bigger back 426 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: six ft two twenty one, just like James Connor and 427 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Ingram mentioned he likes to look at bigger backs and 428 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: then mentioned James Conner mentioned Adrian Peterson, guys that more 429 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: traditionally run between the tackles. I don't know. Ingram typically 430 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: has been one of those guys that bounces it to 431 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: the outside, but can we veer him closer between the 432 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: two guards in the center spot? But I don't think 433 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: he's afraid of physicality. I just think with college it's 434 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: the speed aspect, and you're able to get to the 435 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: outside a lot quicker and get extra yards. In the NFL, 436 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: there is no get into the outside quicker because everyone 437 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: on defense is quick and they're gonna catch you well. 438 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: And College hit him, you know normally the tacklest of all. 439 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: They're all wearing braces because they don't want anybody get injured. 440 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: And they don't even put their hand in the dirt here, 441 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna put your hand the dirt. Yeah, he looks 442 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the part the way they run this zone running scheme. 443 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: I think he can get to the second layer. As 444 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: long as you get some holes opening up, he could 445 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: bounce to the outside. You know. I asked him about 446 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: pass protection and he said, you know, it's probably an area, 447 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: but it's not like he hasn't done it, because when 448 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: he got the USC, he is in the backfield. But 449 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: and understanding that he needs to get better. Yeah, I mean, 450 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: he's none of these guys that are finished product. And 451 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, he looks at Adrian Peterson and I think 452 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys do, because you're that workhorse 453 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: and that power back. But he also looks at James Connor. 454 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: James Connor is a little bit, just a little bit taller. 455 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: He's two thirty three. According to Ingram, he's about six 456 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: foot two twenty one. So you're just giving a give 457 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: or take. But he looks the part. And I got 458 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: to think when it's all is said and done, he's 459 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: going to be active on game day and we'll see 460 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: if he's a second or third string running back when 461 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: we get to training camp for the regular season. And 462 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: when you asked about past protection, he also and I 463 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: believe it was also about special teams, and he brought up, yeah, 464 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: I need to make the roster on special teams and 465 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: catch the eye of Jeff Rogers because maybe he can 466 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: surprise and work his way up that depth chart and 467 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he is that number two running back. 468 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot to ask of any running back, 469 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: let alone a sixth round day three selection. Although I 470 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: did like his attitude because he understands that the running 471 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: back position is not as valued as it once upon 472 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: a time was with Adrian Peterson being a top ten 473 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: draft pick. Now, all of a sudden, you can get 474 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: those running backs on day three, work him into the 475 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: ground and then find someone else that's that running back 476 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: position outside of a Derek Henry and a handful of 477 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: other guys. But there are thirty two teams. There are 478 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: not thirty two running backs that are there. Bell Cow, 479 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: if you will that the offense is predicated on me, 480 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, not putting the cart before the horse, 481 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: but to me, if you want to preserve James Connor 482 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: because we know that he runs, you know, through people, 483 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: he's a bully out there in a good way, but 484 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: he also dealt with some rib injuries, so he'd be 485 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: the perfect back if you get a lead, a two 486 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: possession or a ten point game, maybe with five or 487 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: six minutes in the game. He just run the ball 488 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: down the throat. Run the ball went at the line 489 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, kind of like they did against the Rams 490 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: when they went there and beat them earlier in the season. 491 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: So I think he instead of you know, Connor being 492 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: the bell cow, he'll set you up. And again, these 493 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: are these guys all got to figure it out. I mean, 494 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: the work habit, watching somebody else, and how they go 495 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: about their business, taking care of your body, making sure 496 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: you get rest, you know, don't waste time in the 497 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: weight room, which they won't under Buddy. More So, there's 498 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: a lot of things that we just see what they 499 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: look like in a helmet and what can they do. 500 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: But you have to put the work in and then 501 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: you'll be rewarded at the end. Cardinals covered presented by Hunday, 502 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we continue to 503 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: discuss the rookies arriving soon to be on the practice 504 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: field this weekend, and of course later on we'll give 505 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: our takes on what we saw and what we heard 506 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: from the three day rookie mini camp. But we hear 507 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: from these guys, and then the two third round selections, 508 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: both outside linebackers edge rushers, Cameron Thomas and my J Sanders. 509 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: As much as McBride might play, I think if, and 510 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: it's a big if, but if Thomas and Sanders can 511 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: be successful third round picks that can have eight plus 512 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: year careers, can be bookends on either side, then this 513 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft class will be a huge success 514 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: because you have a huge void at outside linebacker with 515 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: the loss of Chandler Jones. The decision not to make 516 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: a move to try to retain him, whether it was 517 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals decision, whether it's Chandler's decision or a mutual decision, 518 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: he's not here. Who's rushing the quarterback? Yes, you have 519 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden. Who else is rushing that quarterback? And I 520 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: am intrigued not only but what we've seen, but we've 521 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: heard now from Thomas and Sanders and the perhaps the 522 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: chemistry of the bond that they formed together and work 523 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: together to help this defense and disrupt an opposing offense. Yeah, 524 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you, And you know, if you if 525 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: you want to look at Thomas, he's a guy that 526 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: can put his hand in the dirt. He GE's a 527 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: guy that can also rush the passer. And I think 528 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: when you look at Maja Sanders, you know, good size 529 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: six five, two forty eight, where Thomas is two sixty seven, 530 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: and you know, he looks at a guy like von Miller. 531 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Darren asked him, maybe, you know, do you have any 532 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: insight in Chandler Jones. He decides he's watching his film, 533 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: but he's a little bit different player. And my first 534 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: thing is can you drop back into coverage? And he said, yeah, 535 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: I can drop back into coverage space on the size, 536 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: and that's to help his team. So the dance could 537 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: maybe load up the box, go with that NASCAR package 538 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: and then him dropping coverage. And he said that, you know, 539 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: playing seven seven football, he has no problem catching the ball. 540 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: And who did he learn from his sister? His sister. 541 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: It's a it's a great story that I was not 542 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: aware of and hope we learned more about it. But 543 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: he brought up as far as the chip that he plays, 544 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: the chip on his shoulder that he plays with as 545 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: in large part because of his older sister who passed 546 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: away in twenty sixteen in a car accident, hit by 547 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: a drunk driver. But his sister, they were very, very close, 548 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: and it was the older sister, six years older than Sanders, 549 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: who guided him, taught him, instructed him. Mentioned that his 550 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: sister played all the sports and taught him how to 551 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: play all the sports because she played girls flag football 552 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: and was a receiver. But his sister still means so 553 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: much to him, and you could just tell it in 554 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: his voice and in his face when he was asked 555 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: about his sister and how much she continues to mean 556 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: to him, and the little goals and the sayings that 557 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: she would give to him he has written up on 558 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: his mirror in the bathroom, because then he smiled and says, hey, 559 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: everyone looks at themselves in the mirror, so that's where 560 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: you see all these goals like stay myself, be consistent. 561 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: So it's all these stings, and it's it's it makes 562 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: it easy to root for all these draft picks. But 563 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: when you have stories like that, some background, now all 564 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's all right, I want that guy. 565 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: I want that player to be successful. I don't want 566 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: to speak for him without you know, saying connecting dots. 567 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: Clearly he's playing for her and her memory because she's 568 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: with him and that's the way he feels. And you know, 569 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: that's the fact that she was six years older. So 570 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure she was more than a sister mentor. I 571 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: mean she you know, probably took care of him when 572 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: she needed to if the parents weren't around. So yeah, 573 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm you could tell that he's gotta he learned a 574 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: lot from her and how he's going to use it 575 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: in his not only football life, but his personal life. 576 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: And he's the one out of the four that spoke 577 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: on Thursday, he was the one that I came away 578 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: with the biggest first impression, if you will, as far 579 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: as how he handled himself, his story, and just as 580 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: he said, the NonStop motor that he plays with, and 581 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: he brought up Marcus Golden because that's the one thing 582 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Marcus will always give you, no matter first quarter, second quarter, 583 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: third quarter, fourth quarter, week one week, seventeen practice, real game, 584 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: he is always going to bring it. And if Sanders 585 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: can be half of what Marcus Golden does as far 586 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: as the work ethic, he's going to be very, very successful. 587 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: But I'm intrigued by sanders his ability to get into 588 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: the backfield. He mentioned that he needs to work on 589 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: finishing and correcting some of those plays that he was 590 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: not able to finish in college, and then maybe be 591 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: that tall six foot five frame, a little bit leer 592 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: than h Chandler Jones, the ability to drop back into coverage, 593 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: maybe get his hands on some footballs. That's the one 594 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: player I'm really anxious to see in competition. Maybe not 595 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: so much here in the offseason MJ, but more in 596 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: training camp when you do have eleven on eleven and 597 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: how quickly he can assimulates and make that transition from 598 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: college to the pros. Yeah, Darren asked him, you know, 599 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: how frustrated were you? Maybe you didn't put it up 600 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: the sack total that he wanted, but he was very 601 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: complimentary of Hey, and I wanted other guy used to 602 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: get accolades and he had a ton of quarterback pressures 603 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: and hurries and I don't know about knockdowns. Guy followed 604 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: up a question and asked them about Cincinnati because he 605 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: went there four years ago, and we know Luke Falk 606 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: has done a great job and they're putting guys in 607 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: the NFL and and they bring out a lot of talent. 608 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: He said, it was more of the culture we all 609 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: we were brotherhood, and I sensed that when it comes 610 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: to him being with the Arizona Cardinal, I really like 611 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: what we saw from my j Sanders and just I 612 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: think out of these eight draft picks, and I know 613 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: we're you know, I'm trying to make some predictions, but 614 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: he might not play the most on defense, but I 615 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: do think he'll be the first of the defenders too. 616 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Starts a game, maybe even week one, because it's all right, 617 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: go rush the quarterback, get into the backfield, disrupt the play. 618 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Disrupt as much as you did in college, because that's 619 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the one thing that we kept hearing, whether it was 620 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Come or Kingsbury on for Come. Looking at Sanders's tape, 621 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: he was more disruptive than productive. He affected the quarterback, 622 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: and that is what this defense needs more than anything 623 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: right now. From that outside linebacker room, I'll say this though, 624 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: when you look at him, he's all these the four 625 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: guys we mentioned, McBride, Thomas, Sanders, and Ingram. To me, 626 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: they're not locks to make the roush room be active. 627 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Obviously he looked at the top three or or picks, 628 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: they're going to be in the equation. But you know, 629 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: you know how I am about big on snap counts 630 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: in the first month of the season vers second month. 631 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: You still have your your starters, and you still have 632 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Marcus Golden and Knar maybe use Canard 633 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: on first and second down, you take him off on third, 634 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: and you still have Dennis Gardeck and Victor dimo'keeche, and 635 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: you know you have Michael Dogby. So I don't think 636 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get a ton of snaps, but 637 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: it's going to create a good rotation and they get 638 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: confident and all of a sudden, we know that Vans 639 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: comes up with sub packages. You know we're going to 640 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: bring more than you can block. So that that's where 641 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: I think you can accelerate. And I think the same 642 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: thing with Thomas Tomas six foot four, two sixty seven, 643 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: the ability to play inside outside. He feels he fits 644 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: better using his terminology outside, but can play inside if asked. 645 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: It's what he was asked to do at San Diego 646 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: State because it was needed, so he moved inside. But 647 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: it's the effort to get to the quarterback, and he 648 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: mentioned relentless effort. That's how you get to the quarterback 649 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker. And again you're making that transition 650 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Sanders as well. Both were defensive ends in college. But 651 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: the hand of the dirt stand up now, I think 652 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be predominantly stand up for both of 653 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: these and now just figure out if one is ahead 654 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: of the other. And then just they mentioned how Wall 655 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: Sanders because he spoke second, how much that they've already 656 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: become not an item, if you will, but that connection 657 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: starting to form, that bond, And I wonder how much 658 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: competition between the two there might be just to figure out, 659 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, to push each other to the betterment of 660 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, you know, every draft class and they're 661 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: attached for life, and you know, again it's a crapshoot. 662 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: But Cardinals obviously felt like taking the best, best available 663 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: players and then they filled some needs, especially on Day 664 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: number three. So let the win. But competition is going 665 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: to bring out the best of these guys. And like 666 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: I said, I'm looking forward events coming up with some 667 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: sub packages. But to sit here and say they're gonna 668 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: be like Isaiah Simmons and projecting with Zavin Collins can 669 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: do this year. They have guys in place already, but 670 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: you need depth and you need backups and guys that 671 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: you can rely on and you trust in a big spot. Well, 672 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Sanders and Thomas day two picks, the two players you mentioned, 673 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: that's Day one picks, So the expectations are totally different. 674 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: I'll only say this about expectations for Thomas and Sanders 675 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: is because of the void at outside linebacker and that 676 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: position not addressed in the offseason. So now all of 677 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's who do we have on the roster 678 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, you're a third round pick, but I'm sorry 679 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: you two. I expect to see you early in the 680 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: season because you're what was brought. This is what was added. 681 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's unfair and I get it, but 682 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: that's the position that these two have been put in 683 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: based off what the front office and did not do. 684 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: That's the NFL, that's how it works. I mean, you 685 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: get drafted and they try to fit you in their 686 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: scheme based on your upside. And how about his love 687 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: of J. J. Watt, I mean, he can't wait to 688 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: meet him. He's gonna be that little duck just following him. 689 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't blame him, obviously, he's got to put 690 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: the work in. But he lit up when he was 691 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: asked about J. J. Watt and of course he's not 692 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: going to be able to wear number ninety nine, which 693 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: you know he'll worry about that kind of stuff. But 694 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting just to see his growth 695 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: because we know Zach Allen was kind of a He 696 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: took him under his wing and anybody else was willing 697 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: to listen. J J. Watt was there for him, whether 698 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: it was in the locker room, on the field, or 699 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: just taking him out. These guys out and have a 700 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: good time away from the facility. I don't know when, 701 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: but whenever that meeting, that first meeting takes place, I 702 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: certainly hope it's captured on video because when you have 703 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: Cameron tom Is saying, quote, I might be a little 704 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: kid when I meet him talking about lit up like 705 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: a Christmas tree. It's it's you know, he wore number 706 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: ninety nine for a reason. He watched JJ Watt film, 707 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: sees some similarities between himself and Watt and the fact 708 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: that he can play all along that defensive line and 709 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: rushed the quarterback and excuse me, in the word he 710 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: used when he watches JJ Watt re lightless and he 711 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: wants to be re lentless. And I think he's got 712 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: good size six four two sixty seven. Again, you look 713 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: at Colorado State, San Diego State, Cincinnati, the first three picks. 714 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: You can find players if you have the good scouts 715 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: that obviously see the upside. And these guys, do you 716 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: think Thomas, as I mentioned McBride or excuse me, Sanders, 717 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: might be the guy who starts that first game amongst 718 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: these guys. But Cameron Thomas, you're going to see a 719 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of him on defense, and it might be where 720 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: at the end of a month or midpoint of the season, 721 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, where did Thomas line up? And 722 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: not that they're asking him to do different things, but 723 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: because of his ability, you know, how many times do 724 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: we see him stand up on the left side, the 725 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: right side, his hand in the dirt inside, Not that 726 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: it's in Isaiah Simmons moving around asking to do different things, 727 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: but just along that front seven because of his ability. Well, 728 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: and they all talked about playing on teams, all four 729 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: of them. And you know, again, these guys could get 730 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen snaps, get a nice rotation, and then 731 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: maybe we'll see it increase and we'll see if these 732 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: guys separate each other I mean to sit here and 733 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: say all three are pan out. History says it's not 734 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. But two out of three pan out, 735 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: and then one becomes a really good special teams player, 736 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: and then I think you'd address your needs and you're 737 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: looking at the future. Eight draft picks, no one in 738 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: the first round. So yeah, it's it's a lot to ask. 739 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: Even of the Day three picks. We're all intrigued by 740 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: the Day three picks, including the two offensive guards and 741 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: what maybe Jesse Looketta can do as either an outside 742 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: or inside linebacker. Maybe becomes that Dennis Gardeck where you're 743 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: a monster on special teams and you're working your way 744 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: up to playing more defense, because Looketta was one of 745 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: those special teams players who excelled at Penn State. Now 746 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: can you do it here on the pro level. But look, 747 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: it's what we have to talk about right now, when 748 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: you can talk about these draft picks, and then it's okay. 749 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: You get to training camp and a lot of times 750 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: you lose sight, literally of those draft picks, because all 751 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's the veterans are around and they 752 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: just look bigger, better than the draft picks because they're 753 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: walking into something that is completely brand new, or as 754 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: Ingram mentioned, foreign to everybody. Well, you know Jordan Hicks 755 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: and Chandler Jones, and rightfully so, they were obviously veterans 756 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: and they probably had the best training camp of anybody. 757 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: There was a lot of guys that stood out, I thought, 758 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: including Kyler Murray. I mean, the offensive is humming, but 759 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: those guys with day off, I would assume Marcus Colden 760 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: is gonna get some days off, canarad You want to 761 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: make sure you get through the season with him, even 762 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: though he keeps in great shape. So these guys are 763 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to play a lot in the preseason. 764 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: You know where they are. And then we'll look at 765 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: the new defensive line coach when it comes to what 766 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: he thinks. But you know, Michael Dogbe's a guy we 767 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: probably don't talk about enough and he's listened as a 768 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: defensive end. So do I want dog being there versus Thomas? 769 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: Well we'll see. Maybe, like you could put four defensive 770 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: linemen in there and dog being Thomas could be right 771 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: next to each other, along with J. J. Watt and 772 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: possibly Zach Allen. That would be kind of a NASCAR 773 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: package to get to the quarterback. But I think these 774 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get valuable reps and I want to 775 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: see them playing the preseason because that you know, once 776 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: the lights get bright in the Week one and throughout 777 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: the season, it's a little bit different. I mentioned that 778 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm most intrigued about Sanders. I think I have a 779 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: lot of curiosity with respects to Chris Matthew, the seventh 780 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: round cornerback out of all Dosta States, and for a 781 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: couple of different reasons. One is bouncing around from Georgia 782 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: Southern to Stanford before getting to Valls, Dosta States. And 783 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: then the facts And I didn't know this until I 784 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: ran into Quanta coach Greg Williams. But Matthew is twenty 785 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: five years old. He'll turn twenty six in October. Let 786 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: me say that again. Matthew is twenty five, he'll turn 787 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: twenty six mid season. MJ. He is older than Byron Murphy. 788 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: He is older than Marco Wilson. He has two months 789 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: on Jeff Gladney, who is twenty five, turns twenty six 790 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: in December. So you're having a rookie walk into this 791 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: cornerbacks room and yeah, you got Antonio Hamilton in there. 792 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: As well. So he's not the oldest, but a rookie 793 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: who walks in at twenty five very mature, has certainly 794 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: all of the measurables at six two one ninety five 795 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: now making that jump from Valdosta State tenfold the NFL, 796 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: how do you make that transition? Yeah, And the good 797 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: news is they probably won't have to relying on him. 798 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: But we know last year, when you know, Marco Wilson 799 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: and Byron Murphy weren't able to play, he had guys 800 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: like Jase Whittaker out there in Brandon Bordles orders, and 801 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: so it's nice to have depth. It wouldn't surprise me 802 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: just based on his you know, I mean, he's got 803 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: all the attributes when you look at size six two five, 804 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: But again, I think he's a guy. Well, I want 805 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: to see what he can do against some of these 806 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: top receivers in you know, OTAs, and then we get 807 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: the training camp and they put the pads on, and 808 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: then another guy that I think could slide to the 809 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: practice squad, and I want to see what he can 810 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: do in the preseason because you know, even though those 811 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: guys are fighting for jobs, but I like the size. 812 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: The good news is you're not expecting him to come 813 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: in and play right away. Where Jeff Gladney, they're looking 814 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: at him to be a starter. Marco Wilson obviously, he's 815 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: flash last year, got it more consistent throughout the season, 816 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: and then Byron Murphy got it to a great start. 817 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: And I'm sure he knows because the contracts looming here, 818 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: that it's time for him to shine. Not so much 819 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: on the interceptions. It's nice a force turnovers, but I 820 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: like when a couple of games that he deflected passes, 821 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: including in that forty nine Ers game, it's saved a 822 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: touchdown there. That's is just as important of getting a pick, 823 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: especially if it's on third down. It is just to 824 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: start for these rookies. There are going to be some peaks, 825 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: there are going to be some valleys. There might be 826 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: several valleys, but it's that fun ride that we all 827 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: get to take with them and watch them grow. Hopefully 828 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: all of them. It's highly unlikely that all eights will 829 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: pan out. But this front office needs a better hit 830 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 1: rate with draft picks, whether that's first round or middle rounds, 831 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: because that's how you really build your roster and then 832 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: add talents where you need to well, I mean, you 833 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: never know. But with the practice squad, whether it's fourteen 834 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: or sixteen, I gotta think you know, you're not drafting 835 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: these guys for just a year. I'm talking about you know, 836 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: the guy who's drafted in the seventh round. You know, 837 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: when you look at Lucata, Matthew and Hayes, you can 838 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: always put them on the practice squad and we know 839 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: that you're just you know, a player away and you 840 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: develop them, you know so much stashed them, but they learn. 841 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: You get to come to the facility every day, you 842 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: get to obviously be in meetings, you get to run 843 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: with scout team. So there's a lot of benefits. And 844 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys just may not be 845 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: ready for the rigors of playing in the NFL, but 846 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it can happen over a period of time. 847 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: And you're projecting because the talent is too good to 848 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: pass up, and you see something maybe not in twenty 849 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty two late season or twenty twenty three, and you 850 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: don't want to fight thirty one other teams to try 851 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: to land them in the undrafted free agent process. You know, 852 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: I guess I'll wait for training camp, but you know, 853 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: looking at the depth at outside linebacker. I mean, are 854 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: all these guys gonna make the roster? Oh? Absolutely not, 855 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: There's no way, no. And so you've got eight right 856 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: now on the roster. I'll tell you right now. I 857 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: was told that when you get to the preseason, and 858 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: now you know, team scout preseason games, obviously you look 859 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: at who you're gonna play early in the season, you 860 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: look at maybe just possibly trade partners. I was told 861 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: when it comes to that second preseason game, teams call 862 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: for defensive line, outside linebackers, in corners, no other position, 863 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals may have to make a decision to 864 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: possibly look at a guy that may not make the 865 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: roster and try to get a late pick for him. 866 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: And the guy that I'm looking at, and I hope 867 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: he makes the roster because I think he's earned it, 868 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: is Victor de Macage. But when you're a second or 869 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: third round pick, you got a little more cash a 870 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: but he's going to earn the right to be on there. 871 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: So you're not going to be able to keep everyone. No, 872 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: it's impossible. You only have fifty three spots and only 873 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, forty seven are active on game day, so 874 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, but this is a problem. Absolutely, this is 875 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: and this is where it begins. Show us something. Yeah, 876 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean to sit here and say they're all going 877 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: to contribute. I mean, you look at the three or 878 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: four guys, They're going to contribute at some point in 879 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, Marco Wilson contribute. And you know, 880 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: getting Ralford Alford back would be huge for a guy 881 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: like you know, Chris Matthew, you just learned from him 882 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: because Alfer is one of the more physical corners on 883 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: the roster. You know, if MJF we keep bringing up 884 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: Robert Alford's name enough here on Cardinals covered too, somebody's 885 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: Sunday proud partner of the yards out the smoke signal. 886 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we can speak it into existence because he's still 887 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: out there. Maybe you and I are the only ones 888 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: to keep mentioning him. But I would certainly like to 889 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: see Alford back on this team, if no other reason 890 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: that veteran depth. And let's face it, no, he's not 891 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: getting any younger. But when he was on the field 892 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: last season before his injury, he was very physical and 893 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: very effective, and you know how I felt. I don't 894 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: know if they would have won the game, but I 895 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: think he would have been able to show a slowdown, 896 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: not shutdown, slowdown Odell Beckham Junior, and he'd be great 897 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: for some of these young guys, including the guy like 898 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson and the Cardinals are bringing in some corners 899 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to either undrafted free agents or tryouts. 900 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, the NFL, they obviously been doing this for years, 901 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: and it's good because imagine in sounds like the veterans 902 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 1: face two. Maybe they worked earlier in the week. Obviously 903 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: you still work on your own, but can you imagine 904 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: being out there and you're sitting behind J. J. Watt 905 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: and you're taking reps and you're just like you're shaking. 906 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, here you're allowed to make mistakes. Yes, nobody's 907 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: gonna judge you. I mean, you're not going to make 908 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: the roster in the first day, but you want to 909 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: show them, Hey, this guy's got potential. What is this 910 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: skill set. We're gonna play to his strengths and put 911 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: them into our scheme that's going to utilize both production 912 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: and playtime. So that's the beauty of coming out here. 913 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: And don't worry about it. Everything's on film. But make 914 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: sure when you go back to that hotel you're studying 915 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: the playbook, because that's half the battle. Learn the playbook, 916 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: play fast, don't think, and it's not going to happen overnight. 917 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: But be a tentative to what they're asking you to do. 918 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: Don't try to do too much. Last thing here, I 919 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: know how much you follow the Senior Bowl, and I 920 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this, and if you did, 921 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: let's let everyone else know. But the Cardinals, six of 922 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: their eight selections participated and the Senior Bowl, whether the 923 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: practices leading up to and or the game itself. Trey McBride, 924 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas, my j Sanders, Lucida Smith, Jesse look at 925 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: it and markis Hays. Now. This was a tweets from 926 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls Twitter account with the hashtag The draft 927 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: starts in mobile and it's become bigger talking about the 928 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. And it's a lot of the credit to 929 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: those that work with it because everyone is in mobile 930 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: and you can find players. Has Son Reddick stood out. 931 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals made him a first round draft pick, not because 932 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: of but it helped what he did during that week. 933 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: McBride showed that he can go against sec acc You 934 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: know big ten players, you know physicality, so yeah, Jim 935 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: Nagee does a great job, and I think he's interviewing 936 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: for a certain position, so they're lucky to have him. 937 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: But it does start there and an exo. You know, 938 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: after guys go to the Senior Bowl and everything's on film, 939 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: usually the coaches will leave and watch the film, and 940 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: then you go back to the film. I'm sure on 941 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: draft day when you're looking at that second and third round, 942 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: you go to your scouts and say, let's see what 943 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: you like here. Worse his strengths and worse his weaknesses. 944 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: We can work. This is coachable. So they do a 945 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: great job. And you know, I give the NFL PA 946 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 1: they're trying to get more eyes on that the East 947 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: West Shrine game, but the Senior Bowl to me is 948 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: the Cache. And they put a ton of guys in 949 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. And when you get a guy from Colorado 950 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: State that gets to go there and say I can play. 951 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: Maybe I wasn't highly recruited, but I can play with 952 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: the best players in the country. And I think McBride 953 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: showed that and allowed the Cardinals to think, at least 954 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: Kingsbury wouldn't think he would be there at fifty five, 955 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: and they went the best available player there versus a need. 956 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: The draft starts in mobile for these rookies. These Cardinals rookies, 957 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: their NFL lives begin this weekend for the three day 958 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Camp. And on that note, we'll lid on 959 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: this edition Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, partner of 960 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 961 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: producer Jim Almahundro For Mike Jarecki, I'm craig Rio Loup. 962 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover 963 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: two