Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spaffer, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague was Hodkoitz. We're coming to you
Speaker 1: here from the Potawatom Sportsbook Studio. I got it first time,
Speaker 1: and I got it right.
Speaker 2: I did home run right out of the bart. But
Speaker 2: speaking of.
Speaker 1: Home runs, how did you do on the golf course?
Speaker 2: I did well, buddy, Okay, I did really well. I
Speaker 2: was proud of myself. First time being out this year,
Speaker 2: had very modest expectations. But I think if you asked Pahad,
Speaker 2: I carried our four like Scramble. I carried our team
Speaker 2: are foursome. So I was very happy. And I mean,
Speaker 2: as you can probably attest to too, you could not
Speaker 2: have beaten the weather in Wisconsin, northern Wisconsin where I
Speaker 2: was over the weekend. I mean that was picture perfect
Speaker 2: esque conditions. So I was hitting him across the links.
Speaker 2: You were catching carp crappy, crappy. Sorry, big fisherman over here.
Speaker 1: Yes, the weather, the weather was great and the fish
Speaker 1: were biting a little bit. Rough day on Saturday, much
Speaker 1: better day on Sundays. But had some fun and uh
Speaker 1: but We've got some Packers football to talk to you,
Speaker 1: because last week we got to watch one of the
Speaker 1: Packers OTA practices. Shortly after we are done recording this episode,
Speaker 1: we're gonna head out and catch another OTA practice that
Speaker 1: we can talk about on our next show. But as
Speaker 1: far as Week one of OTA is and what we
Speaker 1: got to witness out there at Raynichigi Field, we us
Speaker 1: I'll just open it up to you, what caught your eye,
Speaker 1: what stood out for you during that workout.
Speaker 2: The first thing that stood out for me isn't necessarily
Speaker 2: anything we saw directly during the practices, but Matt Lafleur
Speaker 2: coming out and saying straight away that Tucker Craft, the
Speaker 2: hope for him is to be back for training camp
Speaker 2: or early in training camp. And honestly, Mike, the way
Speaker 2: we all everything we've seen a little bit. We've even
Speaker 2: watched him now doing rehab off to the side. I mean,
Speaker 2: Lafleura said it himself, I mean, Tuck looks like he
Speaker 2: could go today. Yeah, you know, he's had a tremendous
Speaker 2: recovery from this, a great rehab. Obviously, clock the hours,
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Green Bay, took a
Speaker 2: little time to himself in Arizona with his family, but
Speaker 2: otherwise it's been all systems go, working towards this season.
Speaker 2: Obviously still looking to lock up that long term deal
Speaker 2: with his rookie contract expiring after twenty six, so not
Speaker 2: that he ever needed any additional motivation, but boy, it
Speaker 2: sure looks like Tuckerkraft is locked in.
Speaker 1: It's very reminiscent of last year with Christian He really
Speaker 1: isn't it, because we there were so many times that
Speaker 1: we saw during practices Watson was continuing his ACL rehab
Speaker 1: off to the side and everybody's looking at him saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's ready to go, right, But there's
Speaker 1: a timeline, there's a process to this, and the packers
Speaker 1: are going to follow that with regard to Kraft, just
Speaker 1: as they did with uh with Watson, so so patients
Speaker 1: will be required, certainly, the way Watson came back last year,
Speaker 1: everything turned out quite nicely. The other update, of course,
Speaker 1: Micah parsons everything from what we've been told, the rehab
Speaker 1: is going well. The expectation is he will start training
Speaker 1: camp on pup and we'll see how We'll see how
Speaker 1: things play out in there.
Speaker 2: In Matt's saying two, he expect him back. Actually, I
Speaker 2: think he will be back because we got the softball
Speaker 2: game this week. I think for him coming up now too.
Speaker 2: Whether or not he's able to participate in that, it
Speaker 2: remains to be seen, but I think it's him and
Speaker 2: Jordan Love had that coming up on the horizon as well.
Speaker 2: So when you look at Micah, we haven't obviously seen
Speaker 2: him as much as as Tucker in terms of our eyes.
Speaker 2: You know, Tucker, I seem like every time I walked
Speaker 2: in the building he was driving through uh but but
Speaker 2: by all accounts, a really good recovery for him. DeVante
Speaker 2: Wyatt was with the rehab group during practice as well.
Speaker 2: So for the Packers, I mean, for to get the
Speaker 2: guy's back, the key playmakers back, and to have them
Speaker 2: making progress is really We'll talk about some of the
Speaker 2: other observations from otis, but that's what you want to
Speaker 2: get the most out of this. Zach Tom also at
Speaker 2: the rehab group, but the hope is he'll be ready
Speaker 2: for training camp. So Packers, when you look at last
Speaker 2: year and how it ended with the reserve lists, you
Speaker 2: can make a case that like half of their top
Speaker 2: eight players were all on IR at that point. So
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of positivity there I think
Speaker 2: is really important and certainly I think would be uplifting
Speaker 2: for this roster if you see number eighty five and
Speaker 2: these other guys get back during camp towards this goal
Speaker 2: now of twenty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll we'll just have to see where things go.
Speaker 1: I mean, because we still just turn the camendar to June,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of a lot of time to
Speaker 1: go here. The other thing that was addressed by Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur right before last week's first open practice to the
Speaker 1: media the situation with Josh Jacobs. After we recorded our
Speaker 1: episode last week, the news broke about Josh being arrested
Speaker 1: for a domestic incident, and the following day he was released.
Speaker 1: The county prosecutors have not made a decision on whether
Speaker 1: or not he's going to be charged or what he
Speaker 1: may be charged with, So the packers have made it
Speaker 1: clear they're letting that situation play out. The legal process
Speaker 1: is going to have to run its course here. So
Speaker 1: with that in mind, turning back to the on the
Speaker 1: field action during practice, what did you like about what
Speaker 1: you saw or what caught your eye?
Speaker 2: Well, starting with the running backs, right because I mean,
Speaker 2: Chris Brooks is a guy that you don't want it
Speaker 2: to be under these circumstances. But he's a dude that
Speaker 2: has sort of been under the radar for Green Bay
Speaker 2: for a while. But the Packers made it a point
Speaker 2: to sign him to not just restrict attended the game
Speaker 2: of two year contract. Yeah this offseason. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is one of those jack of all trades players. I
Speaker 2: always compare him to Tony Fisher. He reminds me a
Speaker 2: lot of that, not only just with what his role is,
Speaker 2: but also his physical frame. He's a guy that can
Speaker 2: stand up to bull rushes. He's a guy that can
Speaker 2: take on linebackers and also the hope here and again,
Speaker 2: we'll go out to practice and we'll see where things
Speaker 2: are at. But Marshalloyd has been with the Packers all
Speaker 2: off season. He's gotten some answers after going out to
Speaker 2: the West Coast. The Packers have him on a plan.
Speaker 2: He took part in the individuals last week, but did
Speaker 2: sit out of the team periods. So it was Pierre
Speaker 2: Strong and Chris Brooks handling those first team reps. But
Speaker 2: you and I said it on the sideline when we're
Speaker 2: watching him in the individual drills. When you draft of
Speaker 2: running back, when you actually put that investment into a
Speaker 2: player that's one of the top of the line coming
Speaker 2: out of college, they just look different. And we spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time focused on, you know, Marshawn Side
Speaker 2: when he came out. I wrote a feature on him
Speaker 2: and kind of the way he's built, but his speed
Speaker 2: and his explosiveness for a guy of his caliber, when
Speaker 2: you tie it all together, we all know he could
Speaker 2: be special. It's just a matter of he can finally
Speaker 2: put all this this rash of injuries behind him. So
Speaker 2: I thought it was a good day for the RBS,
Speaker 2: and then you know, just spinning it forward a little
Speaker 2: bit more. Man, it seems like every off season I
Speaker 2: say this, but Christian Watson, dude just looks fantastic, just
Speaker 2: his physical makeup and just watching a guy that has
Speaker 2: this amazing frame and tremendous speed for a guy that's six',
Speaker 2: four but just the way he's. BUILT i, mean when
Speaker 2: you look at the picture the portrait of what a
Speaker 2: receiver looks like in The National Football, league it Is Christian.
Speaker 2: Watson SO i just thought there's a lot of positive
Speaker 2: things that draw from that. Practice you, Know Matthew golden
Speaker 2: running with the, ones a lot of passes going his
Speaker 2: way during the team.
Speaker 1: PERIODS i thought so. Too it was just a really good, flow,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean. It and this is typical for the
Speaker 1: springtime when it's when it's no pads and you, know
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of learning the. Offense and from what we've
Speaker 1: heard From Matt, lafleur they they sort of tore things
Speaker 1: down to the bare bones and rebuilding like where to.
Speaker 1: Go and you see in THESE ota practices the ball
Speaker 1: kind of goes like lots of different, directions, RIGHT i,
Speaker 1: mean it goes To, watson it goes a couple of
Speaker 1: times To. Golden they get the ball in saving On william's,
Speaker 1: hands you, KNOW i mean and and and then you
Speaker 1: know you're working the running plays as. Well as you,
Speaker 1: mentioned we didn't See Marshawn lloyd in the eleven on.
Speaker 1: Eleven it sounds like he has done some eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven and, OTAs but The packers are not going to
Speaker 1: run him into the. Ground regardless of The Josh jacobs.
Speaker 1: Situation there's a plan For Marshawn lloyd that is completely
Speaker 1: separate from The jacob situation because of everything that he
Speaker 1: has gone through with his body and with his, health
Speaker 1: SO i hope we get to see a little bit
Speaker 1: more of, him you, know here this. Month but again
Speaker 1: it's really going to be more about training camp when
Speaker 1: the pads are, on and him getting action in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Games for somebody who has played so little in the
Speaker 1: first two years of HIS nfl, career there's there needs
Speaker 1: to be a ramp up for him to get to
Speaker 1: where he wants to, be to get to where The
Speaker 1: packers want him to, be so that he can play
Speaker 1: a full season and and help out this. Offense with
Speaker 1: regard to the injured, players we did get a look
Speaker 1: at the first team, offense first team, defense and some
Speaker 1: rotations and whatnot that we're going. On it's worth pointing
Speaker 1: out that In Micah parsons apps since the first two
Speaker 1: edge rushers with the number one Defense Lucas vans And Baron,
Speaker 1: serell the fourth round draft pick from last, year some
Speaker 1: other guys were rotating in for. That but then also
Speaker 1: on the offensive, side the right tackle Replacing Zach tom
Speaker 1: as he continues his rehab is the Veteran Darian. Kinnard
Speaker 1: some other depth chart Observations if you want to share,
Speaker 1: them but those were the TWO i think that jumped
Speaker 1: out the.
Speaker 2: Most currell's a big one because you Have Brenton cox
Speaker 2: junior there. Too AND i pontificated a lot About cox last.
Speaker 2: WEEK i, SAID i, mean this, guy what he was
Speaker 2: doing on the second team, UNIT i, mean the second
Speaker 2: team tackles are have a hard time getting a hand on,
Speaker 2: HIM a guy that we'd all sort of forgotten about
Speaker 2: a little bit right because of the core injury last.
Speaker 2: Year But brenton is still very much in this. Thing
Speaker 2: but the fact that they did Give serell that opportunity
Speaker 2: to work across From lucas fans and these practices speaks
Speaker 2: to the offseason he's had and also the way he
Speaker 2: finished last year a very positive note In, minnesota AND
Speaker 2: i thought was one of the MVPs of that, Game
Speaker 2: and you could tell afterwards how much pride in being
Speaker 2: in the locker room that he took because it was
Speaker 2: a long wait for. Him there's a lot of bodies
Speaker 2: at Edge rusher last, year especially When. Michaeh parsons was,
Speaker 2: playing because he's a guy that doesn't really come off
Speaker 2: the field that. Much once he was, healthy you, Know
Speaker 2: mike is playing eighty two percent of the defensive. Snaps
Speaker 2: And rashaan is the type of guy too that was
Speaker 2: in that fifty to sixty, Range so it was tough
Speaker 2: to get to the, trough so to. Speak, Right so
Speaker 2: Now baron's going to have that. Opportunity you would have
Speaker 2: loved to have Seen Colin oliver out. There unfortunately he
Speaker 2: was one of the DMPs in this, practice was with
Speaker 2: the rehab. Group but The packers have so many different
Speaker 2: options at edge rusher right, now And i'm just excited
Speaker 2: who comes out of. That the THING i thought is
Speaker 2: the most, interesting and it's been more of a philosophical
Speaker 2: change that we've seen really Since. COVID i would say
Speaker 2: in that seeing the young guys and the rookies getting
Speaker 2: involved at the first team starting offensive.
Speaker 1: Defense that was the next THING i was going to
Speaker 1: ask you, about because because while they weren't taking the
Speaker 1: initial like the very first rep what the first teamers
Speaker 1: we Saw Brandon csa at, Cornerback chris mcconllin at defensive.
Speaker 1: Tackle those two draft picks in, particular were in the
Speaker 1: rotation with the number ones before they kind of blow
Speaker 1: the whistle and the and THE uh and the second
Speaker 1: units go, In so those guys were getting getting some
Speaker 1: snaps with the first. Unit and, yeah as you, said
Speaker 1: it's it is a little bit of a philosophical. CHANGE
Speaker 1: i think that that maybe partly because of just so
Speaker 1: many more practice limitations even in training camp now compared
Speaker 1: to you, know not that long, ago like previous cbas
Speaker 1: where players would always have would always have that chance
Speaker 1: to ramp themselves up in training camp and get those.
Speaker 1: Opportunities now there aren't as many of those in a training.
Speaker 1: Camp so if you want, somebody you, know to if
Speaker 1: you want a rookie to really be ready to play
Speaker 1: and to help out your team in some fashion in week,
Speaker 1: one they have to get used to running with the,
Speaker 1: ones as they, Say AND i think that's partly where
Speaker 1: that comes.
Speaker 2: From, yeah and this is no disrespect To mike. McCarthy
Speaker 2: i'm sure If mike heard me say, this he probably
Speaker 2: end up punching me on the. Shoulder BUT i always
Speaker 2: WHEN i first started covering the, team it was just
Speaker 2: it was SO i don't want to say it's, antiquated
Speaker 2: but it was like all the rookies had to run
Speaker 2: with the second and third team offense and, defense AND
Speaker 2: i JUST i always go back to that thirteen training.
Speaker 2: CAMP i KNOW i write about it a lot AND
Speaker 2: i talk about it a, lot But i'm Watching Alex
Speaker 2: green And James starks run with the, ones and at
Speaker 2: the other end of the, field you Got Eddie lacy
Speaker 2: And Jonathan, franklin who were a second round pick and
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick Right alabama AND, ucla and they're
Speaker 2: they're going against these guys that probably aren't going to
Speaker 2: be in THE nfl this upcoming. SEASON i just was, like,
Speaker 2: like kind of what are we doing? Here because The
Speaker 2: packers very when we went into twenty thirteen coming off
Speaker 2: the twelve, Season Cedric benson and the litany of guys
Speaker 2: That Green bay brought in at the end of that.
Speaker 2: Year they needed to draft a running back and they
Speaker 2: got him And Eddie. Lacy get the guy out there
Speaker 2: was the thing that was in the back of my. Head,
Speaker 2: yeah because it's not just About, okay well this is
Speaker 2: going to be the. Starter it's, about, Hey Brandon, Ceesay
Speaker 2: Keishawn nixon And Carrington valentine come. Out you're. In Benjamin
Speaker 2: saint just wasn't. Practicing get over, there get in the,
Speaker 2: game and you need to have you need to be
Speaker 2: familiar with. That you need to get comfortable with. That.
Speaker 2: Now csea's twenty years, old but you AND i discussed
Speaker 2: it after. PRACTICE i wrote about an insider inbox On.
Speaker 2: Monday this dude was a full grown. MAN i, mean
Speaker 2: and he is, fast and he is, physical and the
Speaker 2: way he triggers watching him and isolating on him a little,
Speaker 2: BIT i felt like there's a lot Of Javon boullard to,
Speaker 2: him where it was, like this dude is not. Afraid,
Speaker 2: now obviously they're not in, pads BUT i, mean this,
Speaker 2: guy he attacks it and it's, instinctual and that's what
Speaker 2: you want to see from a guy that has that
Speaker 2: type of speed in that type of, size so to get.
Speaker 2: Him and Also chris, McClellan And i've said it numerous times,
Speaker 2: NOW i don't know If i've covered a defensive lineman
Speaker 2: here that has the type of body type That chris McClellan.
Speaker 2: Has he's a little bit bigger Than Mike, daniels but
Speaker 2: he's long and his we talk about the hand. SIZE i,
Speaker 2: mean this dude brings a different. Dimension he was hustling
Speaker 2: out there, Too SO i just like seeing those young
Speaker 2: guys get. Incorporated and one other REASON i bring up
Speaker 2: the offense or the number ones and going on is
Speaker 2: because they do split squad, now so you very easily
Speaker 2: could Have cisay and McLellan down with the twos taking
Speaker 2: every rep as opposed to you, know being down there
Speaker 2: and rotating in back in the McCarthy are a lot
Speaker 2: of times it was we were watching one offense and
Speaker 2: one defense and then the other ones would sub. In
Speaker 2: so it's just another philosophical thing that you've seen. Changing
Speaker 2: BUT i.
Speaker 1: Think part of, it just to touch on the McCarthy,
Speaker 1: THING i think there was a little bit of an
Speaker 1: old school mentality with him that any rookie that walked
Speaker 1: in the building you had to earn a rep with
Speaker 1: the first, two and so right at the beginning you're
Speaker 1: not just going to be handed that. Opportunity and, yes
Speaker 1: things are different, now AS i, mentioned there's not as
Speaker 1: much practice, time there are more limitations in, OTAs there
Speaker 1: are more limitations in training camp and in the regular
Speaker 1: season for, practices so it's taken on a whole different.
Speaker 1: Dimension BUT i think when you're talking a dozen fifteen years,
Speaker 1: ago we were in a little bit different world and
Speaker 1: there was there was kind of a mentality of you,
Speaker 1: know a rookie is never just going to be handed.
Speaker 1: Anything you're going to have to earn it against the
Speaker 1: guys who have been, here even if the guys who
Speaker 1: have been here are not expected to beat you out.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean and that's that's kind of how that.
Speaker 2: Went and that works AT, Iowa but in The National
Speaker 2: Football league it's like sometimes you need to make a
Speaker 2: little push, there very.
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Speaker 1: to the practice field to watch another practice that we
Speaker 1: can talk about on our next show later this. Week,
Speaker 1: Monday june one was a whale of a in THE.
Speaker 1: NFL i, MEAN i got back from the fishing ex
Speaker 1: version and opened up my phone and started scrolling through
Speaker 1: and seeing all the news that broke on my drive.
Speaker 1: Home Miles garrett gets traded to The La. Rams Aj
Speaker 1: brown gets traded to The New England, patriots and there
Speaker 1: are some other transactions and whatnot that happened around the.
Speaker 1: League just what did you what did you think of
Speaker 1: Of june? ONE i, mean is this gonna be BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i know there are always salary cap implications With june
Speaker 1: one as. WELL i, mean is is this is this
Speaker 1: gonna be the new trend in THE nfl that On
Speaker 1: june first there, moves but there are gonna be all
Speaker 1: these like major you, know major, transactions, uh you, know
Speaker 1: blockbuster trades going. ON i mean it was quite a.
Speaker 2: Day, yeah it was. NUTS i mean Then Odell Beckham,
Speaker 2: junior you, Know Braxon. BARRIOS i mean like there was
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff that happened in THE,
Speaker 2: nfl And i'm sure EVERYBODY nfl network and the media
Speaker 2: entity of the league is probably excited about. It i'll tell. You,
Speaker 2: Okay SO i was WATCHING i was actually sitting a
Speaker 2: couple tables down from here and was in the middle
Speaker 2: of writing insider inbox AND i looked to my right
Speaker 2: and the ticker came up there right. Away and you
Speaker 2: know it's fast when they end up misspelling. It at
Speaker 2: first THAT espn there was a type one. There compensation
Speaker 2: had two season and then and then you see it quickly.
Speaker 2: Change it was during the McAfee. Show but what stunned
Speaker 2: me the most was The La rams when they bring
Speaker 2: up that graph of their first round picks over the
Speaker 2: last twelve years and there's two players on it and
Speaker 2: now one of them you just trade it like it's
Speaker 2: just the you give less sneed credit And sean, mcvahal,
Speaker 2: mean they're doing it different than everybody else in the.
Speaker 2: League everybody else is, like we won all the, picks
Speaker 2: draft and, develop and obviously it. Works John schneider just
Speaker 2: won a world championship with that. Strategy but this is
Speaker 2: how The rams have done it. Forever they have kind
Speaker 2: of in some ways Rob peter to Pay, Paul but
Speaker 2: this is a generational player AND i Like Jared. VERSE
Speaker 2: i think he's going to be a player and hopefully
Speaker 2: everything goes okay for him In. Cleveland that's a that's
Speaker 2: a different market in terms of the notoriety of it
Speaker 2: and obviously the issues they've had just trying to rebuild
Speaker 2: that franchise since they were reintroduced in a league now
Speaker 2: twenty seven years. Ago but For Miles garrett now to
Speaker 2: get a chance to play on a. Contender there were
Speaker 2: so many people that drew the comparisons between him And Matthew,
Speaker 2: stafford a guy that has already established himself In garrett
Speaker 2: as A Pro Football hall Of, famer probably the best
Speaker 2: pass rusher of his, generation or in the, conversation is
Speaker 2: like the one or two to now get a chance
Speaker 2: to go TO la and sort of get that last
Speaker 2: part of his career that he hasn't really had, yet
Speaker 2: having an established playoff run hopefully and then a world.
Speaker 2: Championship this is this is what it's all. About thirty years,
Speaker 2: Old you've got to get. Moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well and The, rams obviously they there isn't a definitive,
Speaker 1: timeline but the clock is ticking On Matthew. Stafford they know,
Speaker 1: that they know what that's two year contract and they,
Speaker 1: were you, know that close last, year right with facing
Speaker 1: their division, rival The Seattle seahawks and THE nfc championship
Speaker 1: and the game comes right down with the, wire you,
Speaker 1: know could have gone either, way and The seahawks end
Speaker 1: up winning at, all and The rams are gonna are
Speaker 1: gonna make that push, now and, yeah With Miles, garrett
Speaker 1: it's like you know you always wondered from was was
Speaker 1: he gonna be the Next Joe, thomas you, know This
Speaker 1: hall of famer for The Cleveland, browns who was gonna
Speaker 1: play his whole career there and never really get a
Speaker 1: realistic shot at you, know at a Super, bowl.
Speaker 2: Never played in the. PLAYOFFS i don't, think, RIGHT i
Speaker 2: don't Think thomas.
Speaker 1: Did, NO i don't Think Joe thomas did did play
Speaker 1: in a playoff, game although My Miles garrett has, Played,
Speaker 1: yes one has played in In in the, postseason THE
Speaker 1: Aj brown trade TO, uh to The New England patriots
Speaker 1: was probably like the worst kept.
Speaker 2: Secret were you surprised it was a first? Rounder? YEAH i?
Speaker 1: WAS i. Was, YEAH i, Mean Elliott wolf gave, up
Speaker 1: gave up a, lot but he you, know clearly he
Speaker 1: went about revamping the receiver poss For Drake may as franchise.
Speaker 1: Quarterback you, know they Signed Romeo. Dobbs now they trade
Speaker 1: FOR Aj, brown it's going to be a completely different
Speaker 1: set of pass catching weapons for For Drake may now
Speaker 1: moving forward AND uh and, yeah the with with The,
Speaker 1: patriots it's, like, okay if if they get their offensive
Speaker 1: line squared, away you know for the, postseason that's a
Speaker 1: team that that a lot of people, think could you,
Speaker 1: know make another run and get right back. There they
Speaker 1: took advantage of took advantage of some real misfortune on
Speaker 1: the part of The Denver broncos last, year you, know
Speaker 1: to get to the Super. Bowl but but then you,
Speaker 1: know it was kind of a dud Super bowl for.
Speaker 1: Them so there's a lot of motivation In New england, to,
Speaker 1: uh to make another run at this.
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah get over the hump, too and and hopefully for,
Speaker 2: them you, KNOW i think they're looking At Mike vrabel
Speaker 2: sort of being the receiver whisperer and getting paired up
Speaker 2: again with Aj brown if he can get him, back you,
Speaker 2: know kind of on. Track because just with How haywire
Speaker 2: that went last, year specifically In, PHILLY i JUST i
Speaker 2: just wondered what the market was going to be like
Speaker 2: for him and for him to still get a first round.
Speaker 2: Pick that's a lot of respect this day and, age
Speaker 2: with what receivers are getting and, making there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that will just go out and pay a
Speaker 2: receiver Like Romeo dobs seventeen and a half million dollars,
Speaker 2: say join our, roster no compensation in terms of the draft.
Speaker 2: Picks and then In New england was, like let's bring
Speaker 2: it all on now With.
Speaker 1: Brown, yeah it's it's, INTERESTING i, mean you, know to
Speaker 1: see AND i guess speaking more more about Like Miles,
Speaker 1: garrett where you're talking about a guy who's on A
Speaker 1: hall Of fame, trajectory and you know The Micah parsons
Speaker 1: trade By Green bay last, year we're seeing we're seeing
Speaker 1: more of. THIS i, mean you, know the big Time
Speaker 1: hall Of fame level players getting moved as and you,
Speaker 1: know it's not like it's not like The rams didn't
Speaker 1: give up. ANYTHING i mean they gave Up Jared verse
Speaker 1: and you, know three fairly high draft, picks just like
Speaker 1: The packers gave Up Kenny clark and two first round. Picks,
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean you don't get these guys for. NOTHING i,
Speaker 1: mean these they're they're called blockbuster trades for a. Reason and,
Speaker 1: yeah IT'S i mean two years in a. Row are
Speaker 1: you'll believe now the you, know the two top edge
Speaker 1: rushers in all of football have have changed. Teams all.
Speaker 2: Right Odell Beckham junior over under for number of catches
Speaker 2: this season with The New York giants point. Five does
Speaker 2: he make it To week? ONE i don't. Know i'm.
Speaker 2: CURIOUS i don't, Know i'm. CURIOUS i was thinking in
Speaker 2: my head after that all went. Down it's just there's
Speaker 2: been so few examples OF Nfl i'm just talking about receivers,
Speaker 2: specifically no other positions of franchise like face of the
Speaker 2: franchise type receivers who have gone back home and then
Speaker 2: gotten it back on. Track especially With beckham being out
Speaker 2: of the league last year and just these ebbs and
Speaker 2: flows of his career over the last five six. Years
Speaker 2: i'm Just i'm. CURIOUS i count me. Curious, yeah everyone
Speaker 2: loves a great. Story but even like as soon as
Speaker 2: he signed, back immediately thought, of Like Jimmy graham going
Speaker 2: back To New, orleans and it's, like this is the
Speaker 2: only city where this guy's gonna play at that point
Speaker 2: in his, career and what ultimately can he give you
Speaker 2: at this. Point I'M nfl is gonna love. It but my, goodness,
Speaker 2: man the amount of content that they pushed with, That
Speaker 2: like it is That Odell Beckham junior is still a big.
Speaker 2: Name oh, yeah and for how fast and how hot
Speaker 2: he started his career the way it kind of tailed, Off,
Speaker 2: yeah it's just the guy is Still maybe that's a
Speaker 2: New york. Market maybe that's just his, personality but the guys.
Speaker 1: Still combination of BOTH i think, there but, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah he still gets the. Clicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah the receiver position is always is always interesting to
Speaker 1: me because when you get to the point as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver when you when you lose a, step you,
Speaker 1: know in terms of the speed you lose a half
Speaker 1: step or or, whatever do you does the does the
Speaker 1: player have the you, know the savvy and the knowledge
Speaker 1: and everything of A DeVante adams where you don't even
Speaker 1: notice necessarily that he's not as fast as he was
Speaker 1: seven or eight years. Ago or does the offensive, coordinator
Speaker 1: the head coach do they have to scheme the guy
Speaker 1: open because he doesn't have what he had. Before AND
Speaker 1: i think that's WHAT i, think that's what everybody's wondering
Speaker 1: about About Odell beckham and how this is gonna.
Speaker 2: Go that's the hidden secret with, receivers isn't.
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Right If DeVante runs a, four, three, nine he's probably
Speaker 2: a first round pick in twenty, fourteen, Right but he
Speaker 2: ran like a four or. Five, Yeah but at the same,
Speaker 2: time it wasn't like he needed blazing speed to beat EVERY.
Speaker 2: dB the guy has maybe the best footwork IN nfl
Speaker 2: history for a, receiver or at least in the conversation for,
Speaker 2: it with how much that is predicated on his. Game
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like an old box or a
Speaker 2: heavyweight boxer having the power just being able to still
Speaker 2: knock him. Down you, know if the chin holds, up
Speaker 2: they're still going to find a way to get you.
Speaker 2: Down so, yeah, No i'm it'll be. Fun and ALSO
Speaker 2: i got to tie it back before we close the.
Speaker 2: Conversation packers will now See Miles garrett this. Year probably
Speaker 2: he's worth mentioning. That you, know people were saying an insider. Inbox,
Speaker 2: well at least he's not in The. North i'm like
Speaker 2: he is in THE nfc. Now and The Green Bay
Speaker 2: packers are going to have A Thanksgiving eve pre dinner
Speaker 2: with one of the best the games ever.
Speaker 1: Seen and The packers are going to face that Revamped
Speaker 1: New england receiving core With Romeo dobbs AND Aj. Brown
Speaker 1: they're going to face that team as well in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six so with, that we'll call it a rap on
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