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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Wednesday, the thirteenth of

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Speaker 1: January twenty twenty one, and it is time diggity donks

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Speaker 1: for Morning Combat. Hello everyone, guess what day it is?

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Speaker 1: Guess what day it is? Yes, in fact, it is

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Speaker 1: hump day. We will get you through this hump with

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Speaker 1: a nice, fresh, piping hot edition of Morning Combat. I'm

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sports. I'm one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I am joined by the

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Speaker 1: gentleman with which shirt is he wearing today? I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he can tell us. Oh codeo versus Canelo

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Speaker 1: very cool by CBS Sports Bredren. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Brian, Hello, Luke, Hello, we're back. I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: It's a no Jay Wednesday, so you know, take the

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Speaker 2: seatbelts off. You can enjoy yourself. No one getting, no

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Speaker 2: one getting trolled today. Shout out, shout out to the great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some there are some microphones open that

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Speaker 1: need to be closed.

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Speaker 2: Live likes there, gaff as we are. I was set

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Speaker 2: to praise you gaff as being the anti j but

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Speaker 2: that was a very ja move right there. But yes,

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Speaker 2: we're back at it, Luke. Many people, many people attempt

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Speaker 2: to do what we do, Luke, which is turn on

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Speaker 2: the microphones, speak into it, give opinions about combat sports.

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Speaker 2: But you know what they're doing at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, Luke talking right.

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Speaker 1: Just bumping guard.

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Speaker 2: We are artists, Okay, Luke, all right, this is uh,

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Speaker 2: this is a lot you know, a lot, a lot

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Speaker 2: deeper stuff going on here. Okay, this is you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what is art at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, Luke, are we are? Is our art?

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Speaker 1: I think you've done this joke more than a few

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Speaker 1: times at this point. All right, So on the docket today,

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Speaker 1: we actually have a new segment that I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how to explain. I'll let it be the explain it.

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Speaker 1: The topics we're gonna get you today. Pacquil McGregor is

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Speaker 1: not dismissible what saying with PAQUIAW. Spence. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that Spencer Fisher article. Diego Sanchez sort of signaling retirement

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Speaker 1: b see quickly and fan submissions and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain this new segment we're going to try?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Luke, it's every every great segment is

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Speaker 2: really bred and borne off of a problem that I'm

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Speaker 2: looking to fix. The problem I have with this show, Luke,

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Speaker 2: is that you're very stringent, opinionated, controlling, right, not open

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Speaker 2: to the ideas or thoughts of others. So I thought,

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Speaker 2: while you know, I'm sick of pitching things out in

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Speaker 2: our pre show rundown meetings and you just being like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that. No, I ain't got tying

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Speaker 2: good time for that. I will not talk about Mike

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Speaker 2: perry Son one more time, all right, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: give Ocean a fighting chance here. So I've decided, Luke,

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Speaker 2: to create a segment in which I write the questions, mother, mother, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: How many? How many do I have to answer.

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Speaker 2: In which I present to you ten categories? Okay, under

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Speaker 2: good faith, that was your big lecture, that was your

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Speaker 2: big It must be under good faith, no trap questions

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Speaker 2: here BC, and you're gonna spin that damn wheel, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna be forced to answer. You're gonna sit

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Speaker 2: Okay, a little bit of a little bit of Russian roulette,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. If you're from Daugustan or

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Speaker 2: I don't know what we gonna call it, the wheel

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Speaker 2: wheel whatever, Luke. Either way, you're spinning it.

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Speaker 1: Put this story on the staff's radar. Pakio Manny Pacio

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Speaker 2: basically said, you know, they asked him about Spence, Crawford McGregor.

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Speaker 2: we will get many Pakio Errol Spence next on pay

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting fight, actually, I mean all the things.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, the winner would have three of four Welterway titles,

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of Reguldt. Like if someone said, is there

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Speaker 1: a good reason to make Pakia Versuspense, There's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of good reasons to make it. It's not a hard

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Speaker 1: for the division. It's not maybe the most coveted fight,

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Speaker 1: very much. I don't know. I don't have any you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and this is interesting that we keep Terrence

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Speaker 2: Crawford's name in this discussion because he was also in

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Speaker 2: play as a maybe potential Manny Paciow point. But what

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Speaker 2: we do know about Crawford's current promotional situation from everything

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Speaker 2: Spence gets that instead, Luke, I don't know who Bud

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Speaker 2: So what do we do with this, Luke. Dana White's

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Speaker 2: All interesting because if Connor loses to Poorier, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, Luke, I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: Reaction we had. Do you want to see it? Do

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Speaker 2: either way, okay, I don't think the Senator gets enough

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Speaker 2: a guy who turned pro in like nineteen ninety five, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I don't even think the great overrated at times. Manny

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't know with any of these situations

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Speaker 2: One day we'll look at like that run Barry Bonds

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Speaker 2: If or if not, man he's in that same category.

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Speaker 2: Either way, it's still pretty ridiculous. Like twenty six years

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know that's up for people to debate

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Speaker 1: I hear you, bro, I hear you. All right, So

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Speaker 2: Love it legend, legend and you know, and I know

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Speaker 2: at under the normal metrics that we do in other sports,

428
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Speaker 2: or even the softer UFC metrics which allows an eleven

429
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Speaker 2: and seven Matt Sarah into the Hall of Fame, because

430
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, because of his one big moment,

431
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez is still at the very least in that conversation,

432
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: a guy who no, never won a title, uh probably

433
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 2: lost more of his big fights than one, but just

434
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 2: a legend from the standpoint of being all action all

435
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: the time, a true character, and a guy who at

436
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: thirty nine, Luke like, yeah, it is time to probably

437
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: hang it up. He's also what like three and two

438
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: in his last five I mean it's not you know,

439
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 2: it hasn't been a complete, you know, train wreck down

440
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: the stretch. He's evolved to stay modern even though he's

441
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 2: of the original, you know, grounded pound early days, and

442
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: he's just an iconic figure from the freaking barking and

443
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 2: yelling yes, which did inspire ww's Daniel Bryant to just

444
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: having that savage character and even some of the weird

445
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: turns with the whole Joshua Fabia run and the whole Uh.

446
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: You know, he's basically got those Khalil Rountree crystals and

447
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: he's only I think he's sitting on them, Luke. Okay,

448
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 2: they're giving him mystical uh powers and weird things to

449
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: say out of his mouth, but uh, just a savage

450
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: and in one of those early icons I almost want

451
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: to say, like a tank Abbot in the sense that

452
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: he's like this early image of like this savage icon,

453
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: only in reality, tank Abbot kind of came and went

454
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: like Sanchez is lingered forever, Luke, And that's a testament

455
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: to him being a true fighter and uh and being

456
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: able to evolve and give us the fights like this

457
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: one with Gil Melendez and so many classic ones. I

458
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: love that he's actually in a spot where he's saying,

459
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 2: this will be my last one. I don't care who

460
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: I fight Dan. You know I trust Dana. Go and

461
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 2: make it good, because that's a much better spot than

462
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: being told after four losses in a row that you

463
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: have to leave. So uh, let's get a fun matchupb out.

464
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: Let's get out the roller decks, Luke. Let's find another

465
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: fun veteran who we know is going to stand with

466
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: him in trade, and let's celebrate this guy one more

467
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: time for what he's given this sport, you know us

468
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: on an entertainment level. I've got nothing but great things

469
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: to say about him, even though I don't like people

470
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: calling him a Hall of Famer because of that fight

471
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: sipulation category thing.

472
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: Yes, well he I mean, like it or not, it's

473
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: a reality. I mean, this is a guy who has

474
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: been a blood and guts fighter from the word go,

475
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: from the ultimate fighter. He had this aggressive interface style.

476
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: He was kind of mocked by his peers on that show,

477
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: or at least sort of considered and made out by

478
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: the producers to be kind of weird, which is probably,

479
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, not much of a stretch. But it also

480
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: showed that he was a student of the game, that

481
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: he was trying his best with an enorm was he

482
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: was MMA's mister Hustle, right, I mean, the current version

483
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know what to say, but when

484
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: he was out there really doing that work, he was,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, Pete Rose. I'm not here to say that

486
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: he was as accomplished in the game as what Pete

487
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Speaker 1: Rose meant, but I mean somebody who just in every

488
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: single situation applied maximum intensity, maximum hustle. And yes, sometimes

489
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, at the expense of maybe where fight AQ

490
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: could have dialed things back for a more winning way

491
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily in him. But I think in the

492
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: and the idea of just you know, implying whatever matter

493
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Speaker 1: of will you could to win, whether it was advisable

494
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Speaker 1: or not. Quite frankly, he would do that, and more

495
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: often than not it actually I think elevated him more

496
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: than it, more than the opposite. A guy who fought

497
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Speaker 1: the very best of his generation, a guy who dealt

498
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: with a lot of adversity. Folks don't realize, you know,

499
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: he he had left Jackson's for a time and went

500
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: and trained with the Hibbero brothers in San Diego, then

501
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: went back to Jackson's. But when he went back, he

502
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: had talked I think, uh with Ariolhjuane. I believe this

503
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: is true about all the money he had lost through

504
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: either various scams or various people in his life. So

505
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, I really worry about the next stage of

506
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: his life. Quite frankly, we're gonna talk about Spencer Fisher.

507
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: I think Diego Sanchez is probably a can that you

508
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: know is worthy of examination to see what's gonna happen next.

509
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna remember him as a fighter, it's

510
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: just no way to talk about him without talking about

511
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: how he used that intensity at all times. I think,

512
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: more often than not to really elevate him, create memorable

513
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: fun fights and get the most out of the fight

514
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: game that he could be seen.

515
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, and you know, you talk about a pioneer

516
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: in a lot of it. I've got he turned pro

517
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two in the dinosaur stage and

518
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: just looking at his run Luke I mean, you forget

519
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: how like, because he's become such a character this past decade,

520
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: he's become more of a character. Although again, like I said,

521
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: he was still putting in wins. He never lost more

522
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: than two fights in a row, which really says something

523
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: for a guy who's been around for two full decades

524
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: and you know, has fought nearly fifty times. But look,

525
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: you look at he won the first seventeen fights, and

526
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: you know that was through two thousand and six, and

527
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: in that run you got wins over freaking Nick Diaz,

528
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian, John Alessio, Cairol Parisian, Joe Riggs, Jorge Santiago.

529
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy was very much legit and probably

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: as good as you can be during that decade without

531
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: winning a UFC title and went on to be Joe Stevenson,

532
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Clay Guida in et cetera. This past decade was a

533
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: little more hit or miss, But I do give credit

534
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: to anyone Luke. When we had de Andre Arlovsky discussion,

535
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: for example, where you can avoid that exit, avoid that

536
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: you know where you just have had your time and

537
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: your time has come and you haven't evolved and you

538
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: are just worn down. There's something special even if it

539
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: unfortunately leads to, as you as you teased, a potential

540
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: dark ending for guys like this who have left so

541
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: much of themselves in the cage. The fact that he

542
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: was able to leave that much of himself in the

543
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: cage and still linger and be somewhat pretty much relevant

544
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: and evolve during the second decade of his career is remarkable.

545
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: I mean, there is a a savage of savages inside

546
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: that guy, and I respect that. I respect that hell

547
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: of a lot, you know, and also I hope there's happy.

548
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: I think it deserves to be said. B See, he

549
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: was never the biggest star even in his prime that

550
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: the UFC had. There was always like a pay per

551
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: view star. And even when he had earned a shot

552
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: against Bjpenn, you know, the fight obviously did not go

553
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: his way. But I do think it is fair to

554
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: say through the Ultimate Fighter, yes, did he get his

555
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: profile raised, no doubt about it. But through all of

556
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: those blood and guts performances, whether it was against Diaz

557
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: or Parisian or Campman or Melendez, I mean you could

558
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: just go down the list eat all the times, right,

559
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: he elevated the UFC brand. He was a guy that

560
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: the UFC could say this guy is he represents everything

561
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: it means to be, you know, an MMA fighter, what

562
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: we're all about, and you just knew for a time

563
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: anyway that when he was on that card, you were

564
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna get somebody who quite literally bit down the mouthpiece

565
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: and was looking for absolute carnage all the time. That

566
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I think was really helpful for the UFC brand when

567
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: he came around, when he did, he was unique, he

568
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: was different, he was intense, he was focused, and for

569
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: a time he was really really good. That that helped

570
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: the UFC. I don't think there's two ways about it.

571
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: There's a reason they never cut this guy, and they

572
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: probably had some opportunities along the way. It's because he

573
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: embodied what it meant to deliver the UFC products in

574
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: many ways.

575
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: Look, it's really hard to be in a sport for

576
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: two decades and not have a three fight losing streak.

577
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: There's so many ways to lose in this sport. There's

578
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: so many evolutions and new killers coming in, and for

579
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: him to avoid that has been huge. Do you think

580
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: that his you know, I mentioned off the top in

581
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: full respect. I think he's in that category of debate

582
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: of whether he's a Hall of Famer and in depending

583
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: on where your your sort of you know, where your

584
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: strike zone is on what that should mean in the

585
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: sport of mma. His resume is almost bispinion if you will.

586
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: He didn't have the late title when like Michael Bisbee

587
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: had to sort of put the capstone on one. What

588
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: was a great career. But you look up and down

589
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: that record along with being an action icon, as I

590
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, it's got some prettydamn good wins. I mean,

591
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: this is this is one of those you know, Craig

592
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Bigio back door to three thousand hits type of career

593
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: where you look at the stats day and God, got

594
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: a lot of good wins there. I mean, this guy

595
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: was you know, this guy was pretty much legit despite

596
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: being a character.

597
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Now it leads us to sort

598
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: of the second part here, his last fight. What do

599
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: you do? I don't think it's a strain to say,

600
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: we're not even close to the very best kind of

601
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Diego Sanchez that we've had. You want to give him

602
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: something of a soft landing, you know, not a gimme

603
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: per se, but a winnable fight. It's hard to do.

604
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: At I'm guessing what one's seventy. I don't know if

605
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: you'd go back to one fifty five. I don't really

606
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: know what he wants at this point. What do you

607
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: think in BC just pull someone off from LFA or

608
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: is there someone in the UFC you could spotlight?

609
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: No?

610
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: I I think the best thing to do would be

611
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: to make it a fun fight against a fellow name

612
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: somewhat in his category. And what I mean by that

613
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: is being known for action, being beloved. I almost want

614
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: to say, give him the winner of you know, Carlos

615
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Kanda and Matt Brown coming up, although look, Matt Brown

616
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: finished Diego Sanchez a couple of years back in frickin'ious

617
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: helbo style. That almost made me want to scream for

618
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Diego's retirement in that moment. But h what about Claike

619
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: Guido rematch? Luke? You hate it? Does it feel a

620
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: little bit too much like Israel Vasquez and Raphael Marquez

621
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: four in boxing? It was unnecessary? It was sort of like,

622
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: we don't know what else to do. Would you be

623
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: down for something like that? Diego Claike Guita two to

624
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: say goodbye?

625
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't have a better idea. I can say that

626
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a better idea. I don't think. I

627
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's the that's a good one. That's a

628
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: good one. That's not a bad one because he's fallen

629
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: on hard times too, or at least you know, I've

630
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: fall on hard times. They're all aging. You just age.

631
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. B See, I did

632
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: front Squats on Sunday. I can barely walk up the stairs.

633
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. I'm old and pathetic. Life just comes at

634
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: you fast, you know what I mean. So it's not

635
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: even like that they're declining in some kind of way

636
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: where you know they are. It's their fault of their

637
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: own per se. I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

638
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: That's the one that got him in the Hall of Fame.

639
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if Guda is interested or ready, but

640
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: that's a decent call. He has lost three or four.

641
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the same age, they're in the same spot.

642
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you could just as well do a Jim

643
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: Miller rematch, but I don't think it has the same

644
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: sort of you know, you know, glimmer do it. All

645
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, if you're the UFC luke and this

646
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: guy's been such a great soldier for you. You want

647
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: to reward him by making the fight like intriguing, like

648
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: I must see it. If it was Jim Miller, I

649
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: don't know if I must see it. If it was

650
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: Claig Weeda in a rematch of one of the greatest

651
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: fights of all time, or if it was Gil Melendez

652
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: and they called him up and said, Gill, you want

653
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: to do it one more time. If it was something

654
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: like that, I think that's the right.

655
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Road to go. Well, we'll see what happens next. It

656
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: takes us to our third story. Here, shouts to Stephen

657
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Morocco over at MMA Fighting, working on this piece for years.

658
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Finally it was the right time, and he had to

659
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: go through a couple of different employers, and Spencer Fisher

660
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: wasn't really ready to tell the story until now, but

661
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: he did a huge profile on Spencer the King. Fisher,

662
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: who for a time in the UFC had one of

663
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: the great trilogies with Sam Stout, was just a dynamite striker,

664
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: heavy handed guy who was part of that the rise.

665
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: And I guess to an extent, I suppose the fall

666
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: anyway of the Militay fighting systems. But when Militany was hot.

667
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys and you can see

668
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: the article there on the screen in the Cost of

669
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: Being the King. The article deals with a number of topics,

670
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: but basically the gist is this, at age forty something,

671
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: now a little bit older than Mark forty four, he

672
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: is financially barely hanging on from a healthcare standpoint. He's

673
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: on a ton of meds but really is getting totally

674
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: improper care. He has a pretty significant brain damage. He

675
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: can still function, but he can't hold a job and

676
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: things are only about to get worse. What was your

677
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: takeaway from this article? BC?

678
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 2: First of all, was excellent work from Morocco. As you mentioned,

679
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: it was a compelling, long in depth three So I

680
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: really encourage anyone whether you remember that name and you

681
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: should remember Spencer Fisher's name or not. This is just

682
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: an insight into sort of what happened from the early

683
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: days of we just want to get this sport noticed,

684
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: and he was one of those guys who brought a

685
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: lot of notice with his action fights to this is

686
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: the first time in this very young sport Luke outside

687
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: of those original pioneers, and a lot of them had

688
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: really bad endings as well, but didn't get publicized enough

689
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: that we're getting an inside look at what the bad

690
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: ending can look like if you leave everything you have

691
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: in that cage. And that's something that Spencer Fisher did.

692
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: It became his calling card. It was the reason he

693
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: was able to you know, max himself out and have

694
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: a really nice career. My first response is this was

695
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: a very sad read. I mean, it's almost meant to

696
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: be in a way, but it really wakes you up, Luke,

697
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: not just in the brutal you know, the brutal nature

698
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: of what combat sports is, and how unforgiving and how

699
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: even at the freaking highest level, like you know, one percent,

700
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: it seems like come out of there better off than

701
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: they were beforehand, you know, aside from the fame and

702
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: the short bursts of money, and some guys are obviously

703
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: able to set themselves up for the afterlife, but just

704
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: how it takes so much from you and you have

705
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: to put so much of yourself into it to be

706
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: that good. That this was a wake up call at

707
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: how young this sport still is. And what I mean

708
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: by that, Luke, is you know we're what, like you know,

709
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven years into the actual UFC. You know,

710
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: not even three decades into Ultimate fighting mixed martial arts

711
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: being an actual sport, there are not even close you know,

712
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: we talk about a union, There aren't even close to

713
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: the proper foundational things set up to take care of

714
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: these guys who entertain us, who provide us with a

715
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: platform to have these jobs, who fuel the damn UFC

716
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: and allow them to become a billion dollar organization and

717
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: have that huge sale. There's no you know, pension fund,

718
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 2: after life anything. This guy just needs his uh, you know,

719
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: his medical bills paid for and needs it needs a

720
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, forget the income. I mean, this is just

721
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: a sad situation. A guy who can barely work and

722
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: probably won't be able to much longer, was deemed that

723
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: he can't work in a regular job. And you know,

724
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: you find out that he was one of those recipients

725
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: of the sort of Dana White, Matt Hughes, you know,

726
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Forrest Griffin, Stepan Bonner type of handshake, thank you so

727
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: much for your service. Here's five thousand a month, you know,

728
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: for the next you know, not the rest of your

729
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: life until it ran out after the sale. But the

730
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: sad part about that, Luke, is you know, Morocco kind

731
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: of puts in there that maybe that was hush money,

732
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: maybe that was we know, you can't fight anymore and

733
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna be pretty much bad off, so here's some

734
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: money to uh to just try to get by, and

735
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: then eventually that money was gone. It's a wake up call,

736
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: Luke that Let me say it like this, Sometimes in

737
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: boxing in particular, we watch these big pay per view

738
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: fights and they're not wars, right. Sometimes they're not even competitive.

739
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes you figure out early who's the better guy, and

740
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: the fight just kind of plays out like that, and

741
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: we're like, man, why aren't these guys doing what the

742
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: guys did in the fricking seventies and the eighties, in

743
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: the early nineties when I love this sport. You ever

744
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: see Reddick Bull lately? That's why they don't.

745
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: I saw him, dude, I saw him. I saw him.

746
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I told you this. I saw him ten years ago

747
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: now almost at the Peterson Ways. He looked bad, dude.

748
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean in there, And it's not just him, it's

749
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys, right, And it's like, you know,

750
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: not everybody ends up with the money of a sugar

751
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: Ray Leonard or Muhammad Ali or whatever, but even Ali

752
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: obviously physically it was was in a bad state really

753
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: soon after the career ended. The reason why, Luke, you

754
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: don't see as many people as you want in theory

755
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: to just leave it all in the damn fighting arena

756
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: is because what do you get from that. This was

757
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: a wake up call to that this is a great

758
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: sport and part of again the entertainment level and the

759
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: and the reason why this brand of the UFC has

760
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: gotten to this point was because of people like Spencer

761
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Fisher who would go out there on undercards or whatever

762
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: and just bleed baby and just leave it all out

763
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: there there. There doesn't there doesn't seem to be any

764
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: setup in boxing either, you know, for for for not

765
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: for a happy ending afterwards. And this just financially, it's

766
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: having the means to have the care you need in

767
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: the medicine and all that. This was a huge wake

768
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: up call that I think everybody should read and the

769
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: reason why fighters need to band together. And this isn't

770
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: meant as a against the UFC, although you can certainly

771
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: read through the lines on this story as I mentioned,

772
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: whether it was the stuff about the UFC's doctor or whatever,

773
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: and get the message that you're supposed to get from

774
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: reading that story, but it's a wake up call to

775
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: the fighters more than anything, Luke. I wish every UFC

776
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: fighter today would read this story, and hopefully they are.

777
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: And I love that it inspired Gray Maynard to go

778
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: on the campaign he's done over Twitter in the last

779
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: year to kind of put the pay disparity out there,

780
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: the bad news look, and we tease this sometimes to

781
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: get the proper care for fighters financially and more than

782
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: that that they deserve. It might end up sacrificing some

783
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: of the entertainment that we all love, but they freaking

784
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: deserve it. This guy's forty four and he can't function,

785
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: and it's in it's CTE and and it's a shame.

786
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: And you know, this is a guy who I mean, yeah,

787
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: he had a blip on the radar where he was

788
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: looking to be in title contention. But we're not even

789
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: talking about a you know, former champion or someone that

790
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: that is just at the front of your mind. In

791
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, it was. It was a journeyman,

792
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: lovable guy who put on really great fights and had

793
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: a season where he was a legitimate contender. But it's

794
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: like they're just forgotten once they're gone, and you know

795
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: as a media member it can it can do the

796
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: same thing that it does to you when you see

797
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: a death in the ring or horrible injury in boxing

798
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, recalibrates, what am I really

799
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: doing here? What am I really covering. I'm not saying

800
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that because you know, I want to take some hard

801
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: moral stance and look for a way out. I just

802
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: think there are more things that we can do, or

803
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: that the promoters can do, or that anyone can do

804
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: to kind of create the right structures, foundational things that

805
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: the fighters need. Whether that's a union, I don't know.

806
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: But you see it with the NFL guys banding together

807
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: in the lawsuits and trying to get you know, just

808
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: their health care taking care of for the for the

809
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: second half of their life. I want to see that

810
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: same for the UFC fighters. This is very sobering, Luke.

811
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: You know nothing, no, just not to be all be

812
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: down here, but this this was rightfully sobering. That's what

813
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: you should have took from reading this.

814
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everything can't just be happy all the time.

815
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Every story can't just be what a great success UFC

816
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty or you know the next show

817
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: is going to be on ABC, or you know, we'll

818
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: see what Bellator has cooked up in twenty twenty one.

819
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: That is also part of the story. Those are things

820
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: you also should not ignore. Everything plays a role here,

821
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: and every part of it deserves to be acknowledged, especially

822
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: the good, but also parts of the bad. And the

823
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: bad tends to reveal itself more often than not in

824
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: this game. Because the safety protocols certainly have gotten better,

825
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: it takes some time to reveal itself. I mean, the

826
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: reason why the story is so important is that it

827
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: took time to tell, right. You couldn't just rush out

828
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: after a fight, stick a microphone in his face after

829
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: his last contest and get these kinds of answers. Things

830
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: had to mature over time, and it's that longitudinal perspective

831
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: where you really begin to get a clear picture of

832
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: the truth. Right. The short term truth and even the

833
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: long term truths are are certainly a province of the UFC,

834
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: But the long term realities for fighters, those stories are

835
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: not easy to tell, but when they are told, they

836
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: are in critically, critically important. I have a few reactions

837
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: to this. The first thing I would say is and

838
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: I was texting this to some people yesterday. There are

839
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: not many things in this fight game where I feel

840
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: like I have a moral imperative to cover. So, for example,

841
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to cover the UFC's event this this Saturday.

842
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: But do I feel like I have a moral imperative

843
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: to be there Saturday to cover the results and do

844
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: a post fight whatever. No, not necessarily. I don't feel

845
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: like that's a moral obligation. It might be a professional obligation,

846
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: but not a moral one. But when it comes to

847
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: fighter pay and when it comes to making sure that

848
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: they have the appropriate amount of leverage, whatever that may

849
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: end up being through ALI act or various lawsuits or

850
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: a union, I do feel like I have a moral imperative.

851
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: A lot of people ask me, how can you cover

852
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: a sport where it breaks people this way? And the

853
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: answer is, I feel like it's my duty to help

854
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: break them less because you can't really talk out of it.

855
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: There are people who come out the other side just

856
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: find that part needs to be acknowledged as well. But

857
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: for the people who are getting broken by it, unless

858
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: someone does something about it, and in the case of the media,

859
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: all you can really do is raise visibility for it.

860
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: It's going to continue to happen. It's going to continue

861
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: to happen. I feel like if you are a media

862
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: member and you are not shining a light as much

863
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: as reasonably possible on the reality of fighter pay and

864
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: the reality of fighter leverage, you're a coward. You're just

865
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: a coward, and it deserves to be acknowledged as much.

866
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: The second thing I would say is there's a lot

867
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: of arguments that go into about who does more to

868
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: make MMA work. Is it the promoter who puts up

869
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: all of their money and makes the arena happen and

870
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: puts up all the lights and blah blah blah, or

871
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: is it the fighters who go in there and fight.

872
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: And the answer is, of course, it's a shared responsibility.

873
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: But a lot of times you'll see people defend it

874
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: and say, well, the promoters are the only ones risking

875
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: any thing. Wow, bullshit, what a ridiculous comment that is.

876
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you just go and look at what Spencer

877
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: Fisher and by the way, he is hardly alone. There's

878
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna be many more of him coming, folks. Trust me,

879
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: the idea that only the promoter is putting up something

880
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm not here to diminish that they are. Of course

881
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: they are, and so many have lost a ton of

882
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: money and gone bankrupt in the process. That's a real

883
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: story too. But this is a real story, and this

884
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: is an ongoing story, and it's not an isolated one.

885
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: Don't ever forget the cost that these people have to

886
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: pay to put themselves in this position. And I think

887
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: the last thing we see just sort of worth focusing

888
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: on here, is it is true that these fighters also

889
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: bear some responsibility for their own plight. I think that

890
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: part is true. Right.

891
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: Well, look there what they're getting into, right, Like, we're

892
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: not gonna be where you and I are not naive

893
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: right now, this is fricking punching people in the head.

894
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're getting into?

895
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: So that's yeah. And on top of that, I mean,

896
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, listen, well even that's well, that's that's slippery

897
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: slope too a little bit BC. I mean, yes, there's

898
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: no denying that punching in the head is bad for you, Okay,

899
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: but like, what does that mean when the rubber meets

900
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: the road. Here's my point. Did they know at the

901
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: time of militany fighting systems that the kind of hazing

902
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: they were doing as training would result in lives like

903
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: they have today. Probably not. They probably did not think

904
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: it would result in where they are today, where Tim

905
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: Sylvia is on you know, go fundme to pay for surgery. Obviously,

906
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: Matthews's situation is a little bit different because he had

907
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: a traumatic accident with a train. But you know, a

908
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are ending up just by hooker

909
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: by crook and these really bad, awful positions. So best

910
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: practices are getting better, and to that extent, fighters have

911
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: responsibility to investigate them. But I just feel like as

912
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: much as the blame should be put on them for

913
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, understanding what they're getting into. These are people

914
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: bc who think that every day when they wake up,

915
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: they're the best candidate to win the lottery. That's the

916
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: kind of mentality you have to have if you want

917
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: to be a prize fighter. Any shred of doubt, anything

918
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: to derail you from getting through that workout, that sparring session,

919
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: and ultimately that fight is going to do exactly that.

920
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: So they shut it all out as a means of success.

921
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: All I'm pointing out is it's gonna be very hard

922
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: to get these guys to accept risk when they're twenty

923
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: five years old, especially if they're doing well, all the

924
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: more reason to have something after they're done to take

925
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: care of the ones who desperately need it, whether it's

926
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: healthcare or financial resources or some combination.

927
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: The reason why I think the Spencer Fisher story, this

928
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: specific story being told the way it was, is important, Luke,

929
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: because look like not every fighter that's ever step foot

930
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 2: in the octagon is going to deserve this type of treatment.

931
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: But Fisher's a guy who, you know, like came as

932
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: close as you can come to being a legitimate title

933
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: contender and being an action guy and a fun guy,

934
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: but then sort of just disappeared when his career was over,

935
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: and you don't hear him talk about a lot. But

936
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: that guy was one of the key cogs who bled

937
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: to get to keep the UFA going during important time.

938
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: So there probably should be some kind of tear system, Luke,

939
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, some type of merit that has to be reached,

940
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: whether amount of fights or wins, or something that allows

941
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: you to say to yourself, I know the risks, this

942
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: is not safe, This is not a safe sport. And

943
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: if I fight the way I love fighting, that fans

944
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: love that, the promoter loves it's going to be double

945
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: as risky, but I will take that chance because that's

946
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: the way I'm wired. I'm opportunistic. I love to fight

947
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: blah blah blah because I know that there is at

948
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: least something at the end of the road that will

949
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: take care of my family and I.

950
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Right by the way, this is not some chump. He

951
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: had wins. I mean, if you're new to MMA, this

952
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: won't mean anything to you, but if you know anything

953
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: about it, it should. He had wins over Josh Near,

954
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: Thiago Alvez, Aaron Riley, Matt Wyman, Dan Lauzan, Sam Stout,

955
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: cal Uno, Jeremy Stevens.

956
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: I mean, finding the night guy, like a fight of

957
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: the night guy, waiting to have them right, like just

958
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: a dude.

959
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: He was a very good fighter. Now in the end

960
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: it petered out. He lost one, two to three or

961
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: five of his last six and most of those know

962
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: those mostly by decision. But still you know, yes, he

963
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: at the end he faded quite badly. But he was

964
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 1: a I mean, he couldn't beat the very best BC,

965
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: but he beat the rest.

966
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: But here's the deal, Like we talk about this a lot,

967
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: the culture Dana White creates. Look at the Dana White

968
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: Contender series. The culture is about We're gonna put four

969
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: or five fights out there on this broadcast, and if

970
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: you win, it doesn't mean you're part of our organization.

971
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: It's whoever impresses us the most with your savagery. It's

972
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: a set up with the bonus system that is set

973
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: up to try to create Gotti Ward every fight, every night.

974
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: How many times do we see Dana upset at people

975
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: Joel Romero after the Adisana fight, you know, for not

976
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: going after it. Well, look, there's gotta be something for them, Luke.

977
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 2: And I'm not in a fantasy world that everybody's gonna

978
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: be covered with a huge pension for life. But look,

979
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: the same reason why there's this giant lawsuit right now

980
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: against the UFC that was probably modeled after the giant

981
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: lawsuit against the NFL. Because if you're going to be

982
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: the soldiers in this war to help the boss, you know,

983
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: win and keep business going, and you're watching this company

984
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: get sold for billions and all these great things are

985
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: happening and you got nothing to show for it. The

986
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: only way we're really going to make a change, Luke,

987
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: is if the fighters band together and create whatever non

988
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: beyond revenue run, foundational, almost union like thing they can

989
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: do to start hearing their voice heard, because if they don't,

990
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: then yes, they are replaceable cogs in this engine, and

991
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: we all tune in hoping they will give away the

992
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: rest of the good years of their life on one

993
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 2: night in the cage for our entertainment. And we've said

994
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: this a few times. It's the media's responsibility in some

995
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: ways to bring light to it, but it's going to

996
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: be the fighters responsibilities to band together, the ones who

997
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: have leverage, the ones who are maybe are right in

998
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the middle of their prime now and can easily have

999
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 2: the same attitude that Spencer Fisher had in his prime

1000
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: of thinking, oh, that won't happen to me, you know whatever.

1001
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean. Look in the story, it shows Fisher's trying

1002
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: to high you know, illnesses and things. I mean, he's

1003
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: trying to get back into fights to make money. We

1004
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: don't want to be in a system where that has

1005
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: to be the way, right, So hopefully stories like this

1006
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: will be the right wake up call, not only to

1007
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: the UFC and other promoters, Belltor included, to take great

1008
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: care of their athletes are the best that they financially

1009
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: can but really for the fighters, Luke, to build something

1010
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: to support themselves and the guys that are going to

1011
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: come after them. And that's why unions happen, Luke, right,

1012
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's you know, that's this is just the

1013
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: stakes are a lot higher. This isn't working down at

1014
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: the factory, right, this is this is this is pretty bad.

1015
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on? Probably the juiciest part of

1016
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: the story the comments about the UFC doctor who in

1017
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: the end reached back out to the Fisher family and

1018
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: basically submised after talking to them that maybe Spencer Fisher

1019
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: was exaggerating his symptoms and that the CTE isn't really

1020
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: ct and it might not have been caused by fighting,

1021
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, blah blah blah. And you

1022
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: saw the comments from that same doctor another podcast who

1023
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: basically said, the people that are fighters, they would probably

1024
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: be in crime if they didn't pick fighting. So all

1025
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: this damage they happen, they saved them. I mean this

1026
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: is the biggest like like remember that movie Sleepers, Remember

1027
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: when Kevin Bacon at the end, after explaining his rapes

1028
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: of young children, was like, I made you tough, right tough?

1029
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I learned this lesson really vividly in two thousand, was

1030
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: it twenty twelve, I can't remember what it was. It

1031
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: was when RG three had the game the quarterback then

1032
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: for the Redskins now the Washington football team, when he

1033
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: was already had a banged up knee, and then Mike

1034
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan sent him back out there and his knee just

1035
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: got torn to absolute pieces. He tore in his pcls,

1036
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: MCLs ACL everything else. And you'll recall that the team

1037
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: doctors were interviewed about it and they were like, you know,

1038
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: we felt like with a couple of shots of cortizone,

1039
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: we could just send them back out there, no problem.

1040
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: And it was. And then you had that huge investigation

1041
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: the Washington posted where team doctors were just forcing you know,

1042
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: prescription narcotics on their players over and over again, creating

1043
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: all kinds of chemical dependencies. I've long learned that I

1044
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: don't give a damn if a doctor takes the Hippocratic oath,

1045
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: if any doctor out there, not any but in many cases,

1046
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: I should say in many cases, what I've found is

1047
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: if you see like team doctor for various NFL or

1048
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: sports team, or you know, doctor in house for this

1049
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: promotion or that promotion. They may very well do a

1050
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: good job, but you should at least take a second

1051
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: look because what often ends up happening is they do

1052
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: their job for healthcare in the service of the people

1053
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: paying them for it. Well, in this case, the fighters

1054
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: aren't per se paying them, or RG three wasn't paying

1055
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: that particular doctor for their healthcare. It was the team

1056
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: that was who was really signing the checks. So whoever

1057
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: is signing the checks is going to get healthcare in

1058
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: accordance with those needs. Sometimes. Now again, I'm sure that

1059
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: there are many scrupulous doctors who do get checks from

1060
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: teams or other sports organizations and that's not the deal.

1061
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: But I have become extremely skeptical about any doctor who

1062
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: fulfills that kind of role. And if you watch enough sports,

1063
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: you'll see this thing over and over and over again.

1064
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: By the way you see, especially at the collegiate level.

1065
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: Oh it's so bad over there.

1066
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is bad. And I'm also not naive. Just

1067
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: something I teased earlier that we've talked about, Luke, that

1068
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: the safer we try to make this sport. And again,

1069
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, just over twenty five years into it, these

1070
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: are the prehistoric days, Luke, we look at UFC like

1071
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: one through ten as the prehistoric days when guys with

1072
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: one glove fought, you know, guys in a ge. No,

1073
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: this is still the prehistoric days in terms of how

1074
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: fighters are cared for. But to clean it up, Luke,

1075
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: and to help the fighters, you'll probably see less of

1076
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: the Guida versus Diego Sanchez type fights. You know, on

1077
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: a whole There's gonna come a point, Luke where you're

1078
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: gonna look at it and go, is it worth it?

1079
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Right? Certainly will all right the interesting time because Mikey

1080
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: is killing us behind the scenes here. BC, Let's get

1081
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: to our last topic before we get to some of

1082
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: the fun stuff here. Today, UFC President Dana White has

1083
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: suggested kind of interestingly, if you ask me, that the

1084
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Strawway champion, Jane Way Lee's next fight will either be

1085
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: against Rose or Carla. But BC, this is the part

1086
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: that kind of got my attention. Unless you have a

1087
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: particular angle there, obviously it should be against Rose, and

1088
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: Rose and Carlo, by the way, I believe have the

1089
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: same manager, so there might be something to that. But

1090
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: to me, the bigger one BC was that they want

1091
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: to do it in Asia. That's where they want to

1092
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: put this one now. Dana White previously was saying, hey,

1093
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: if we can't have all fans, I don't want any fans.

1094
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Obviously they've rolled that back. We're going to see some

1095
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: fans at UFC two fifty seven, so that should be

1096
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: kind of fun. Blah blah blah. Now, BC, I don't

1097
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: know if China is going to blow up and be

1098
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: this huge market for the UFC. It's just so hard

1099
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: to tell at this juncture. There's plenty of reasons to

1100
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: think that it could. But I've also seen UFC go

1101
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: out there and say Mexico is the new Brazil. Yeah,

1102
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: not exactly exactly. It's gonna take some time, and I

1103
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody can be the new Brazil, not

1104
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: even you know, long standing powerhouses in the MMA community.

1105
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: That being said, you gotta love the call for the

1106
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: growth of the UFC and Asian MMA, for the UFC

1107
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: to take their champion, who is quite good and put

1108
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: her back there for a title defense.

1109
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think, look like, let's not be

1110
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: naive when that whole scenario happened of Dana floating out.

1111
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Rose wants a title shot next, you know.

1112
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, and then you find out that was

1113
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: not true at all. It led us to believe, Look,

1114
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: are we trying to set the champ Wailey Jong is

1115
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: gonna be coming off a year layoff after one of

1116
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: the hardest fights anyone could ever have? Are we looking

1117
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: to give her a soft dr title shot, a title

1118
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: opportunity to defend on home soil, increase the brand and grow.

1119
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: I still think they're trying to do that, And it's

1120
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: not a huge amount of disrespect against Carlos Smarzo, the

1121
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: inaugural UFC straweight champion, who had thirty three is riding

1122
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: a four fight win streak. Have has won six out

1123
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: of her last eight butt Look of those four wins

1124
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: all by Desai, two split decisions, some really you know

1125
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: coin flips there in that regard. Is that an easier

1126
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: matchup for Whaley? Yeah, of course it is. It is. Look,

1127
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: I'd favor Rose against Waaley. I think I think nama

1128
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: unis in Jean Waylee is I mean, one of the

1129
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: two or three best fights you can make this year

1130
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: in the whole sport. Luke, I love this matchup. I

1131
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: love it. I think Rose is a bad style matchup

1132
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 2: for her. Yet Way Lee is very much the real

1133
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: deal and looks like she has a bright, right future.

1134
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: This could be an absolute, you know, mixture of of

1135
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: a of a war mixed with just technical brilliance. If

1136
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: the UFC is smart, though, you kind of want to

1137
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: give somebody in the considering the situation, the huge brawl,

1138
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: the layoff a soft err you know, you bill it

1139
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: as the former champ coming in on a four fight Wintrek.

1140
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: It just looks too good, Luke, it looks too good

1141
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: on paper. So I have no confidence that rose will

1142
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: be next. But Rose Way Lee uh should happen this

1143
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 2: calendar year and needs to be next after that, Luke.

1144
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: If they don't go in that direction, hopefully they can

1145
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: do it safely. Put some fans in there. Look, I

1146
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: have no idea what twenty twenty one is gonna look like.

1147
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's already out of control, you know, with

1148
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: your friends over there in DC.

1149
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: But you know my friends, yes.

1150
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: Quarantine wise. I mean, I just don't. I just don't

1151
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 2: know anymore, Luke. I mean, you know, I don't.

1152
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Here here's what's kind of amazing about this fight, BC.

1153
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, let's not put the car before the horse,

1154
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: because there's so much great action to come in this

1155
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: next year. But it's not inconceivable that Jangway Lee, who

1156
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: was one half of the equation of the Fight of

1157
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: the Year winner in twenty twenty her versus Rose. I mean,

1158
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how that fight's gonna go, but I

1159
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: could see a lot of scenarios where they win twenty

1160
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: twenty one Fight of the Year. I mean, that's how

1161
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: good that fight is on paper. That's how competitive and

1162
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: fun and interesting. And again, of course it could be

1163
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: just you know, ordinarily good, not spectaculally good, and they

1164
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: would still be just fine. I'm just sort of pointing out,

1165
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: like it's just that is one of those fights that

1166
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: is basically impossible to miss on so we can tell.

1167
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: And for that reason they may skip it because the

1168
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: Spars I think is a great fighter, but I don't

1169
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that she's up to the task of

1170
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Jiangway Lee. And they put her in Asia as well,

1171
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: that's just a tough road to hoe. They may want

1172
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: to give her, you know, the people sort of massage

1173
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: or something when she's back in if they put well,

1174
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: they didn't say China, but let's assume they put it

1175
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: in China. You know, we'll see about that. But it

1176
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: is such an in tantalizing prospect to get Jiangway Lee

1177
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: in a fight with Rosanama units in Asia, in the moon, anywhere.

1178
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: It's that good. Look.

1179
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: Are we being too harsh on Carla here or do

1180
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: we just know her ceiling?

1181
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: Listen, Carla is a very good fighter. She will beat

1182
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot of your people that folks don't expect. She

1183
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: has really worked on her striking. She trains with Colin Oyama.

1184
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: She's got wrestling in her back pocket. The thing is,

1185
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: it's like, is she the best wrestler in that division? No,

1186
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Tatiana Suarez is She's a good striker? Is she the

1187
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: best one there?

1188
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: No?

1189
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. So she'll take rounds from folks and fights

1190
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: from folks when they don't necessarily expect it. But against

1191
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: people of this the Jhangway Les, you know, they don't

1192
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: make a ton of mistakes. Man, they don't put themselves

1193
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: out of position too much, and they are well rounded

1194
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: to the acein the hole that you normally rely on.

1195
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: I just don't think we'll be there. Yeah.

1196
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: I think that's fair, and that's no disrespect. Love the

1197
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 2: cookie Monster, but warning track power Luke, okay.

1198
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: All right, So from there, BC, where do we go?

1199
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: You want to do your segment? Now, how does this work?

1200
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's spin the wheel of doom. Let's do this thing, Luke.

1201
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: As you know, we're just trying to kick the you know,

1202
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: we're working, we're figuring it out. We had sjaw for

1203
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: a bit. We're gonna try to figure out some fun

1204
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: segments to see where they land. So quickly. Here's the premise, Luke,

1205
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: I pick the categories ten. Each week, you spin the

1206
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: wheel five times, and you must, as I must, in

1207
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: giving you a good natured faith question, provide our listeners

1208
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: and me with a good faith answer. Some of these

1209
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: will make you think I.

1210
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: Thought we had an actual wheel. Do we have a wheel?

1211
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: We do. We'll get to that shortly. We're about to

1212
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: spin the black circle of death here, Luke. Just a

1213
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: full disclosure. Luke has not seen any of these questions,

1214
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: and I do not know how these are gonna land here.

1215
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna spin and find out. So Luke, let's uh,

1216
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Jesus take the wheel of my life. Luke kicked the

1217
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: wheel of this show, your ten categories as we debut

1218
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: this week, are you cringey bastard, used car salesman, Money

1219
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: Never Sleeps, The Tracks of My Tears, WrestleMania, The Airing

1220
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: of the Grievances, The Irish Curse, butt stuff, heavy metal

1221
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: and comet ping pong? Luke? Would you step up? Uh?

1222
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 2: And would you spin the wheel? Luke?

1223
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: We doing this? I'm told we had a wheel gaff?

1224
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: Where the fuck is the wheel? All right, well there's

1225
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: a cue there we go. Okay, all right, let's see this.

1226
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Let's spin this bitch. Now, are you gonna spin it

1227
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: and end up on something? Or do I have a say?

1228
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: Nope? The Irish first, Luke. All right, here we go.

1229
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Here is your question. Luke, this is ironically the only

1230
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: trivia I have in this and it's trivia time here

1231
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: on the Irish Curse. Luke threw out seven Trips to

1232
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: the Octagon as a pay per view headliner, which fight,

1233
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: with a reported eight hundred and twenty five thousand pay

1234
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: per view buys, was Connor McGregor's poorest selling main event

1235
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: to date on the pay per view level.

1236
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: He's had seven trips. All right, so let's think about this.

1237
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: So it wouldn't be Alvarez, it wouldn't be the two

1238
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: das is it wouldn't be Kobeb He's had seven.

1239
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: Right now, County Floyd Mayweather, he's had seven trips to

1240
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: the pay per view main event headliner as the headliner.

1241
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm trying to think here, So you take

1242
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: those out, you still have Mendez out there, which was

1243
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be Aldo. You have Aldo, so you have

1244
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: just one more than I'm thinking of that I'm missing.

1245
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. I'm gonna go with

1246
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Mendez only because that was supposed to be Aldo and

1247
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: then last minute they switched it up out of nowhere.

1248
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: But it's probably the one I'm actually not thinking of.

1249
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Is it Aldo or is it not?

1250
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1251
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: And then Serroonie would be the other one. Yeah, I'll

1252
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: go with I'll go with Mendes. Is it Mendez?

1253
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: Ding? Ding Ding eight hundred and twenty five thousand buys

1254
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Luke correct, Well done to start off this show.

1255
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Wheel of Death and see

1256
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: what you got comp.

1257
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: That spin that fucker. Let's see, by the way, it's

1258
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: bullshit that I don't get to spin it. I's want

1259
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: to point that out.

1260
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to figure things out here. All right.

1261
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how we're gonna make this work. We're

1262
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: not even in the same area, Luke.

1263
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, here we go, Luke, Hey, Luke,

1264
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: no one hates intelligently predicting MMA's future more than Luke Thomas.

1265
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: Luckily, no one loves making Luke Thomas more uncomfortable than

1266
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: this guy, the Beijuan, the BBC. So Luke, look into

1267
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: your heavyweight crystal ball and tell me every man who

1268
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: will hold the UFC's heavyweight championship between now and January first,

1269
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

1270
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Every man? So I can skip the women's side of

1271
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: the game, right.

1272
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the women have a heavyweight division

1273
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: at the moment the UFC, So.

1274
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, give it time, give it time. Okay,

1275
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: So let's go who's gonna hold the belt at.

1276
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: That's a three year window, Luke, the next three years,

1277
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: who will hold a piece of that UFC heavyweight championship?

1278
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay? Uh? Oh? Just a heavyweight? All right, I think, John,

1279
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: are we counting interim titles or no?

1280
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: No, let' let' let's let's assume in a perfect world,

1281
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: it's all. It's all the full thing.

1282
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: So steepe a because he sort of already qualifies. I

1283
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: think John will hold one. I think, oh Jesus.

1284
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: Fuck, that's John. That is John right there. That's a yeah.

1285
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: He's like, how could you even hesitate? I'll say I'll

1286
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: give a I'll give a I'll give a wide. I'll

1287
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: give a bit of an outside answer. I'm gonna say,

1288
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Cyril gone. I think he might. I think he might

1289
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: hold end up holding some Cyril gone.

1290
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: Good lord, Okay, he's got.

1291
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: Three years to do it, Luke, And I think beyond that,

1292
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know who else is coming up that would

1293
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: show me that they've got the thing going on.

1294
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: But you don't think Frank Nghanu gets get one time

1295
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: somebody one time and holds that belt.

1296
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: I think he gets hosed along the way, is what

1297
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: I think. I think he should have already had an

1298
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: interim title. I think he should have been defending it.

1299
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna find a way to not

1300
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: let that happen. So I'll say no. But I mean,

1301
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: that's again, this is bullshit, and no one should listen

1302
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: to a word I'm saying about this. So okay.

1303
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: So Luke's final answer is Steve A Miochich, John Jones,

1304
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: and Cyril Gone. All right. I would have gone with

1305
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: only John Jones myself, Luke, And I was really looking

1306
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 2: to see if you were going to bite the Adisania

1307
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: bullet and say, hey, I'll give you three.

1308
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: No, I'm not ready for that. I mean he's gotta

1309
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: beat he's gotta beat Old Blahovic first.

1310
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Luke, let's step up and take

1311
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: your third spin on the wheel of death.

1312
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, we need music for when this

1313
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: thing spins.

1314
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a lot more. Uh, you know.

1315
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: You? Who the fuck should I answer this live on

1316
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: the air. It's probably some.

1317
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: It's probably some Canadian journalists.

1318
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, Okay.

1319
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: Go ahead, bronstead Ter. Why are you calling me? All right? Luke?

1320
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: You cringey bastard. This question is about the cringiest man

1321
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: in all of mixed martial arts, Luke. Which realistic fight?

1322
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: And when I say realistic, I mean a guy at

1323
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: a weight class he would realistically accept a fight against

1324
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: offers Henry Sahudo should he return from retirement, the biggest

1325
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: opportunity to sell pay per views on one night. If

1326
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: the fight happened this year.

1327
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: It would have been jose Aldo realistic. Is one forty

1328
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: five realistic or no?

1329
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: If you think he can realistically go there, and you

1330
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: think he realistically would go there, then yes it is.

1331
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: I think that if Max Holloway beats Volkanovsky, Holloway versus

1332
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Sehuto is big. I also feel like TJ. I'll say this,

1333
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: if TJ. Dillashaw can get right at one thirty five

1334
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: and reclaim his throne, him in a rematch with Sehuto

1335
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: is big, really big? You know, big enough anyway?

1336
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, Old Henry is playing the same game at home,

1337
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: looking at the landscape, trying to figure out who he

1338
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: would come back against.

1339
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: The Cody Garbrant one could be big, but he's a

1340
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: little bit too inactive, although he had a sweet win

1341
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: this past year. Yeah, I'm gonna go. My answers are

1342
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: Holloway or a rematch with dil Shaw, provided that they

1343
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: both can like reclaim a little bit of what's lost.

1344
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough? Two more spins left, Luke. You

1345
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: never know what you're gonna get. There's a lot of

1346
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: wild ones.

1347
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: Still out there. I'm hoping for butt stuff. I really

1348
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: am curious to see what you cooked up with that

1349
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: fucking category. Spin it, Spin it. Let's go.

1350
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: Spin number four on the wheel of death. Here we go, Hey,

1351
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: cover a pingpong, Everyone's favorite place to get the Sandusky

1352
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: Sausage Special.

1353
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Luke, U don't even you fuck, don't even It's an

1354
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: awesome establishment. You're an asshole.

1355
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: No, Luke, this is not about the mishandling of children.

1356
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: This is about pizza. If I told you that after

1357
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: today's show you were headed to the electric chair, but

1358
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: we could order, Luke on the way, one large pizza

1359
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: from any pizza place in the world that you have

1360
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: been to, national chain or mom and pop shop. Where

1361
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: are we stopping on the way to killing your ass now?

1362
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still around, but back when

1363
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: I lived in New York, the best pizza I had

1364
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: was Bleeker Street Pizza Bleekers Round.

1365
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: They are around in a big way.

1366
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they are so Bleaker. I'm not saying it's the

1367
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: best because I've never Here's the thing. You see, everyone's like, oh,

1368
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: so and so is the best, so and so is

1369
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: the best. You got to really try to like look

1370
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: around and see what's out there. And I'm sure there's

1371
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: some New Yorker watching being like fuck you Luke, Bleaker Street,

1372
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: it ain't shit. Okay, well then it ain't shit. I'm

1373
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: just telling you what I ate at the time.

1374
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: Imagine your fans in Doha, They're like, come on, Luke,

1375
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: respect brother.

1376
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: What I'll say is, Bleeker Street Pizza was just, I mean,

1377
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: the most tremendous slights, never too greasy, crust, all was perfect,

1378
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: just the right amount of ingredients for perfect balance. Uh

1379
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: they were. They were relatively quick to It didn't take

1380
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: long to get your food. Bleeker Street Pizza. Shouts of

1381
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: those folks. They made it eight yeah, Bailer pie.

1382
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: So I had it for the first time last twenty nineteen.

1383
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic fan freaking tag up there, up there in the

1384
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: in the conversation. That whole area, by the way, in

1385
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: Manhattan has tremendous Italian restaurants if you ever get the chance.

1386
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, six categories remain, but you only have

1387
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: one more.

1388
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: Spin.

1389
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: Here we go. Let's end it on a high note.

1390
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: Let's I feel like a wheel of death.

1391
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: I feel like going forward. I should get to pick

1392
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: the last one.

1393
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, Hey, look at this. The airing of the

1394
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: grievance is Luke. We are seventeen months into this MK experiment.

1395
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: So aside from New York City's transit causing your boy

1396
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: BC to be late, to the infamous drinking episode on

1397
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: December thirtieth, twenty nineteen, in which you got all kinds

1398
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: of bitchy and pissy, Luke because you had you had

1399
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: another job to get to or something that I got

1400
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: was late coming in, you know whatever, When and why

1401
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: were you the most angry or annoyed so far since

1402
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: we started Morning Combat with this guy, your co host?

1403
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: That was pretty much number one? Are you saying outside.

1404
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: Of that, I'm saying aside from that very infamous day, Luke,

1405
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: when you were a little bitch.

1406
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: Right, well, you were also just totally unprofessional. But what

1407
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: can I do about it?

1408
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: When were you the most angry or annoyed with this guy?

1409
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: Look?

1410
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: I can take it, Okay, I can take it.

1411
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: Man. That one stands out so much. I Mean, I've

1412
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: been annoyed with you here or there at times, but

1413
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: that one I was just I wanted to fucking strangle you.

1414
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: How about the j M A May disaster, Luke?

1415
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: Which one was that?

1416
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: When I when I uh, when I got uh Andre

1417
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: sukamav after me? When I got uh Kayasakura tweeting at you.

1418
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm I was mad, but I'm more pitied

1419
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: you than else. I don't I'll tell you this, I

1420
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: don't like your framing of the sauce ship because I

1421
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: still feel like you fundamentally misunderstand what makes us work.

1422
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: But it's so ambiguous you never know if I'm well.

1423
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: Here's the thing now, I sort of made peace with it.

1424
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. What am I gonna do? I'm

1425
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna talk you out of it. You're gonna do what

1426
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. But uh, when you first started doing that,

1427
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: I found it a little bit annoying. But you know,

1428
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: not that not nothing, dude. I'll just say this, like

1429
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: Sinead O'Connor, nothing compares to you when you were late

1430
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: for that drinking episode and I wanted to fucking kill you.

1431
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: So short of that, there's not been a major incident.

1432
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: Oh.

1433
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was good you were gonna say that.

1434
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: One time I asked if a Buela and Rob Thomas

1435
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: had any chemistry, because that was yeah, you.

1436
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: See, I'm here's the thing. I can't even remember all

1437
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: of your asshole indiscretions. They are so few, are Sorry, sorry,

1438
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: they're so frequent, rather that they are hard to get

1439
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: your Your asshole indiscretions are like Trump's lies. It's just

1440
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: like you lost track of the one from Monday, because

1441
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: he's got five new ones from today. It's kind of

1442
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: like that.

1443
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Luke, that would be the wheel of

1444
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: death for week one. Hey, you know, we'll see if

1445
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: butt stuff can make a comeback next week.

1446
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, very good? I like this. Some

1447
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 1: things we gotta work on, but I kind of like

1448
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: this segment. I think it's pretty cool. All right. That

1449
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: takes us now to fan subm missions to BC. Let's

1450
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: roll on through.

1451
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: Oh crap, I forgot. I'm not prepared for this.

1452
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: In fuck, you asked what my time was. I was

1453
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: most fucking annoyed by you. It's right now, and meanwhile,

1454
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: I have to Meanwhile, I'll have to look at this

1455
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: excellent gentleman with a plate the size of a fucking asteroid,

1456
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: with a with a mullet, and he's wearing an MK sweatshirt.

1457
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know who this gentleman is, but God bless him.

1458
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: He is a fine American, provided he didn't storm them

1459
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: the capitol last weekend.

1460
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, I think I'm oh, I got it now,

1461
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: I got it now, Mikey, I'm good, Thank you very much.

1462
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: All right, Luke sewel a is that Sowell Alfarez? He

1463
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: starts off with us this week. Luke on our fan submission, God,

1464
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: that looks like Canelo's seventh bastardized brother, he says. The

1465
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 2: only tip to tip around here are these beef tips.

1466
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: Sunday's are for mid tier Mexican food, fast, cheap and

1467
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: always okay a good.

1468
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: You know how you can tell it's mid tier because

1469
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: they do what every mid tier restaurant does. But by

1470
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: the way, mid tier one of my favorites. This is

1471
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: not me, tell you I'm above it. But they've got

1472
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: that little the little of cheese on top of the

1473
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: refried beans, and then the lettuce is just shredded iceberg

1474
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: with like a big ass sliced tomato on top. That's

1475
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: how you know it's mid tier Mexican. But you know what,

1476
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: midterier Mexicans. It's all right by me.

1477
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm done with mid tier Mexican any day of the week.

1478
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: Our second submission is from Chance m. He says, wearing

1479
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: my cool morning combat T shirt with my beautiful wife

1480
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: of twenty seven years and going tip to tip in

1481
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: public at the Kilted Mermaid in Vero Beach, Florida. Shout

1482
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: out to this fine American luke, as you.

1483
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: Would say, But Bro, I cannot of fathom what it's

1484
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: like to go to a bar indoors with no mask.

1485
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: I haven't done well, Yeah, Florida, they don't. They don't

1486
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: have rules, they don't have cares. But can we can

1487
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: we shout out a couple of things here that looks

1488
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: like a fantastic brew that him and his wife are sharing.

1489
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: He looks fit and fantastic in that MK T shirt

1490
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: for probably being an old bastard, and you know his

1491
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: wife's kind of sneaky. Twenty seven years into this, right,

1492
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: you got to give old Chancey a high five.

1493
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: Right, And you know they're like COVID, come at me, Bro.

1494
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: So you know what, they'll live in life. They'll live

1495
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: in life pretty great.

1496
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: They might as well start promoting fights on Fight Island. Yeah,

1497
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: all right, hey, we move on this week. Look to

1498
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: Jerry Oh, he says, what's the first thing you do

1499
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: when your wife tells you she's in labor with your

1500
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: first child? Obviously you grab your MK hoodie shout out

1501
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: to my wife for not only bringing our little girl

1502
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: into this world, but also listening to you donks as

1503
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: background noise. I've watched all of your videos since day one.

1504
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: It's MK all day, well done Jerry and his beautiful wife.

1505
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: That is congratulations right there.

1506
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: Congratulations bro. You're gonna need that hoodie because you're never

1507
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: gonna shower frequently or sleep normally ever again, So.

1508
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

1509
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: There you go. All right.

1510
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: I love to see one day Jerry's offspring against Ocean

1511
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: Michael Perry in the octagon. We'll see what happened.

1512
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Don't don't do it years before. Don't get yourself killed?

1513
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 2: All right? Here we go to hear Stevie B is back.

1514
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: Steve B says, this is from my home office. Wow.

1515
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: Can we blow this up gaff by any chance?

1516
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: Jesus?

1517
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh, so he's got an MK mug? Is that a

1518
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 2: Todd Duffy cardboard stand up back there, Luke? Or is

1519
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: that Stone Cold Steve Austin?

1520
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 1: What is that? Doesn't stone? Does Stone Cold have tattoos?

1521
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like on his leg? I don't know that does

1522
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: Who is that?

1523
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: I don't know? I want to now, I want to

1524
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: read this fucker's email.

1525
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's stone cold Steve Austin. All right, well,

1526
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 2: look shout out to Steve B for one having a

1527
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: quality office there, Luke, with some nice memorabilia, but having

1528
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: the MK mug right in the middle of the action.

1529
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: I love that. Looking great.

1530
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: All right, Will A is coming at us with some

1531
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: merchie purchased stick out this nice tumbler and he says,

1532
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: if you want some Austin, New England, I p as

1533
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: bald Bird's Brewing is where it's at. BC pairs well

1534
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: with gas station hogis. Well, well, I will look them

1535
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: up and look out for that Will and.

1536
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: You can drink them out of this fine morning Combat

1537
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 1: Morning Coombat tumblert store dot show dot com.

1538
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: All right, hey, look, let's go out west with our

1539
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: very good friends Bill and Jen's RV adventure on Instagram.

1540
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: They sold their house, as we know, they're living in

1541
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: the r V they are currently right now. It looks

1542
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: at Big Sir in California on the coast. Check out

1543
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: that handsome gentleman Bill there with the MK hat standing

1544
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: in front of the ocean, the rocks, the cliffs, Luke,

1545
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: and as we advance the slide, oh yeah, look at

1546
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: him right there, looking good.

1547
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: Do we know how they make money? Are they retiring?

1548
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: I think his wife works and he might work too,

1549
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: out of the out of the r V on you

1550
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: know online. I'm not really sure. I didn't delve that close,

1551
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: but I'm convinced Bill might have three pairs of clothing

1552
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: and two of them are MK related, and I can

1553
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: respect that, Luke.

1554
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's not too far from what I'm

1555
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: doing these.

1556
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: Days, not not not too far. And there is Bill

1557
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: and Jen and there inside the r these people follow

1558
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: them if you want to see some beautiful nature picks

1559
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: A great fine couple and followers of this show as well.

1560
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: So thank you Bill and Jen for all you have done, Luke.

1561
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: Let's skip that, Okay, let's roll on. This is from

1562
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: at eight bit Imaginations on Instagram. It's a Star Wars

1563
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: comic inspired by MK Luke.

1564
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: Wait are you? I'm Han solo? Sort of?

1565
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: What are you? I think I'm Princess Leah and we're

1566
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: both on tattooine Luke, you're a homeland of Doha. Yes,

1567
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: all right, that is?

1568
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I appreciate the spirit of this,

1569
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: but it didn't quite work.

1570
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt s is here, and he says the Matt

1571
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: Thomas family barbecue King of the Hill style and not

1572
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: pictured as Matt scrolling past BC's dms. Luke, this is

1573
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: so for.

1574
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: Folks who may not know, Oh my god, he's gonna

1575
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: get so fucking mad. This is my brother. This is

1576
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: my brother, Matt Thomas, not the most flattering pick and

1577
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: or photoshop cheese stuffed burgers for dinner. What's that? What's

1578
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: the other part?

1579
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: Peace pipe for peace pipe for dessert? Luke, this is great.

1580
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: So you're telling me that mad ass whoever that is,

1581
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: found a picture of your brother online and created this meme.

1582
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: This is yeah, that's my brother, my brother. As you

1583
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: could see, I have like as gray as I am.

1584
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: My brother is only a year and a half older

1585
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: than me. Look how gray he is. I mean it's

1586
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: almost one hundred. He's like Anderson Cooper gray. That is

1587
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: fucking dude. I've got to send that to him. That

1588
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: is so goddamn funny.

1589
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: Look, what are the odds we could get Rob Thomas

1590
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: never coming on the show, never watching this show? Could

1591
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: we ever get Matt Thomas on the show? Would he

1592
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: be into it? Like a drinking episode where we tell

1593
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: old Thomas stories.

1594
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: Anything possible. I think that's not very not very easy

1595
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: to do, but possible. My dad is impossible, like he would,

1596
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: my dad would sooner, would sooner just disown me than

1597
01:15:58,439 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: do that.

1598
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're dad ever met me, he'd be like, Okay, here,

1599
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: where's my car, here's the ticket, you know, here's the

1600
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: valet ticket. Yeah, no, no, sure, I'm the co host

1601
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: of your son's show. Yeah, okay, great, Luke. This is

1602
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: from Cam Newton with a K underscore underscore. Oh we

1603
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: are skipping that one. Okay, let's go on to the

1604
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: next one from Alan w with two movie posters. First

1605
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,440
Speaker 2: is to Dana White, Thanks for everything.

1606
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: Is this supposed to be too long Fu?

1607
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Too long Foo? Thanks for everything, Julie, Yes.

1608
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: Super nineties reference that our audience is not going to

1609
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: get this is good though.

1610
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 2: So when I saw Showgirls on first run, first showing

1611
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: on a Friday night in Waterbury, Connecticut in the fall

1612
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety five, Luke, I told my parents that

1613
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: I went to see Too Long Fou. And I remember

1614
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: coming back from that and my dad's sort of interrogating

1615
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: me as I walked through the door, checking to see

1616
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: if I had been drinking or not. I had to.

1617
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 2: I remember feeling like he was like, so, what movie

1618
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: you see? I was like, oh, we saw that Wesley

1619
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: Snipe's too loong foo thing. And I remember the disappointment

1620
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 2: in his face was so extreme that I was probably

1621
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: better off being like, oh, yeah, dude, we saw Showgirls

1622
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: was fantastic. Yeah, all right, So shout out to that

1623
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 2: Jay Aaron in the car there. Nice.

1624
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be he could be in the trunk.

1625
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: Allen W's got one more and he says back to

1626
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: the Bomb Shelter for this Back to the Future Part

1627
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 2: three inspired COVID poster.

1628
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: Luke, Now that's pretty good. Post COVID, they will finally

1629
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: go tip to tip to tip.

1630
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: CBS presents Back to the Bomb Shelter a Jason Aaron film.

1631
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: Very well done there. I love that.

1632
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means no one's gonna watch it.

1633
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: Jose A is back with a dead Wrong image.

1634
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: Luke, everybody hates dead Wrong. Only by the way, I

1635
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: meant to tell you this, So you remember how last

1636
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: week's Dead Wrong. Someone was like, oh, you got the

1637
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: time of MF. Doom's death wrong. It was you know,

1638
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: you said it was new Year's Eve. It was Halloween.

1639
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: They sent me a timestamp literally when I announced that MF.

1640
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: Doom had died in it, I said he passed around Halloween.

1641
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: They announced it on New Year's Eve. They keep trying

1642
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: to do me dirty on dead wrong, and they keep

1643
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: failing BC. Why I don't understand.

1644
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, picture them ride and dirty. We picture that every week.

1645
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 2: This is a failed segment because the people have made

1646
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: it fail.

1647
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: Luke.

1648
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: All right, Steve b is back with another one with

1649
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: tip to tip bros. Here, Luke, let's see what we

1650
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: got going on here. Look, I didn't put this on.

1651
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 2: Have you seen this shit? Because people are sending me

1652
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: this picture like if I get a picture sent to

1653
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: me seventy eight times. Look, I'm like, okay, it's probably

1654
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: jumped the shark. But he's added a little bit of

1655
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: a language there to make a meme out of.

1656
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: It, making Dana White angry. I know that, all right?

1657
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: For you streamers out there, Let's go on to Richard A. Luke.

1658
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: He was having some fun with the reface app. Instead

1659
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,879
Speaker 2: of six edits fir. Wow, see you got six clips

1660
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: on the show. Who's editing this show? The first is

1661
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: of the Adams.

1662
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: Family here you and me as Dana.

1663
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 5: That's you, that's John Jones. M all right, that was

1664
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 5: Richard's Next is uh uh.

1665
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: Uncomfortable? Oh god? Yeah?

1666
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: Was that from what?

1667
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 3: Uh?

1668
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: Staying Alive or something? No, the echoes?

1669
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: Can you turn the sound off between clips because it's

1670
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: fucking killing us? Thank you, dude? That was that was

1671
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: you at the bus stop, at the bus stop.

1672
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: The third is Luke Thomas here as John as a

1673
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: force gump.

1674
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: I like, how I get to be the mentally challenged

1675
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: of the two. Meanwhile BC gets to be the guy

1676
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: who fucks That's great?

1677
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: Next up is BC in pulp fiction apparently. I mean,

1678
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: do you think that God came down from heaven and

1679
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 2: stopped Flash visit.

1680
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 1: With a pulse? I don't mean disrespect, Okay, I respect

1681
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: you have You've been You've been Travolta twice now, uh.

1682
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Next up is Luke Thomas in this pop star music

1683
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: video giving us. I'm a pug though.

1684
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: And every every character I look like looks like the

1685
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: ugliest version of themselves. This is really not doing much

1686
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: for my self esteem.

1687
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, Oh, get ready for this.

1688
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: Richard A closes with BCS Takashi six ' nine. Luke, Google,

1689
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: that fits far too naturally. Luke my face on that body?

1690
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. All right, let's

1691
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: roll on, because apparently we've got four thousand of these.

1692
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 2: Luke at Joel at Joel L. Joggi on Twitter. He

1693
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: says he can't properly screw his mic stand in. I

1694
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: don't believe a professional like BC could match that up.

1695
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: You can squat apparently on a bar.

1696
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: Luke, is that going inside.

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01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: My Oh god, I didn't even notice that. Can we

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: go to the next one?

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01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 2: All right? Uh? This is from the Combat Hour on Instagram.

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01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: They made a meme of Canelo learning from the boys

1703
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: over at Morning Combat on the origins of the clem

1704
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: butteral taco.

1705
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: Don't buy the beef local, you don't not bad taco

1706
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: prep for dummies. All right, I'm with it, all right.

1707
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: Matt s has a colonoscopy inspired meme for us. Oh god,

1708
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: yeah no, please get it next next slide. Please. Jose

1709
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: A is back, taking into consideration Brian's love for women's

1710
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: strawweight fights and apparent hate for JMMA. Don't worry, I'm

1711
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: aware it was a joke, BC, but I had to

1712
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: make this.

1713
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: Meme pretty good? Pretty good?

1714
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,839
Speaker 2: Is that me on Drake's body?

1715
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,919
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, that's you on old Canada dry.

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01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin L sliding in with two. First up,

1717
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 2: BC finishes reading the Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. Luke, that's

1718
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: a good ending, right, very he.

1719
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: Didn't work it even working out BC, look at that shit, goddamn.

1720
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 2: And second up is after the Horizon controversy, Brian decides

1721
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: to expand his cultural horizons with some authentic Asian cuisine.

1722
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: Dude, you would go to PFCHA and start like yeah

1723
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: with egg rolls in your hand, fucking double gunpointing at

1724
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: everyone around there.

1725
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 2: All right, A couple more to go here. James has

1726
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 2: a night at the museum insurrection BC and LT storming

1727
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: the capitol.

1728
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: By the way, if you notice the guy who you're

1729
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be over there on the right holding the flag.

1730
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: If you look below his right hand holding the flag,

1731
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: that is his actual work badge. This fucking idiot he

1732
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: worked in it or something. This fucking idiot wore his

1733
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: work badge to the insurrection and they promptly fired his ass.

1734
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: So look is your guy going tip to tip right there?

1735
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: I think he's probably making some white power thing. Who

1736
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: the fuck knows with these moronskes all right.

1737
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: The next one we got from at Daydream Comics. They

1738
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: caught Luke Thomas protesting here at this uh uh Well,

1739
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, Luke, I mean you know it was the

1740
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: same city.

1741
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 3: I know.

1742
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you and this guy at the same

1743
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 2: time in the same place.

1744
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Right, you think I'd be caught dead among those vermin

1745
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: without a man ask no less.

1746
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: Come on now, Scott m Rizzo irregular and these parts

1747
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 2: has two for us. First up is Luke getting caught

1748
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: enjoying Nancy Pelosi's office at the Capitol.

1749
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Lot smeared feces on all the door handles for a left.

1750
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: And the second up is bc uh found somewhere else

1751
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: on security cameras inside the uh inside the old Capital.

1752
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: You got this, Jeff, Oh, they arrested that fuck too.

1753
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: That was great. That's Nancy.

1754
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Luke. We close with Dickals and he's got two of them.

1755
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 2: First up an MK remix of Army of the Pharaohs

1756
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 2: Heavy Lies the Crown, and he says, if possible, pass

1757
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: this message along to Luke, see if he catches the song.

1758
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: References from the album heavy lies the crown. When you

1759
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: sit upon the throne of mma media, the hate and

1760
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: the blame for delivering the facts can you make can

1761
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: make you feel like you've been and fed to the lions.

1762
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 2: This is the king's curse. Conjure the legions of donks

1763
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 2: and ready the war machine. That is morning is.

1764
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: That is so, this is the as you can see,

1765
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: heavylised the crowd is the album from Army of the Pharaohs,

1766
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: which he has reinterpreted. And all those song titles are

1767
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: from the album. That is uh. That is good work.

1768
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: That is good work.

1769
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: And finally, Dickolls has uh Brian reviews the interview. Let's

1770
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:26,839
Speaker 2: let's let's check this out.

1771
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: All right.

1772
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Back to your husband, you.

1773
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 3: Know, as husbands and wives do. Justed and walking around

1774
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 3: our house doing our thing. And I got to the

1775
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 3: garage and he's doing pull ups like buttonnaked, and I

1776
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 3: was like, I have an idea, and so I got

1777
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: our tripod out into you know, we staged that photo.

1778
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, What is your favorite video on

1779
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: red Tube? No, no, thank you very much.

1780
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Those are great. Those are great. They did a great

1781
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: job with those, as they all done.

1782
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: Peeps, we do have to wrap early today because we

1783
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: got some big interviews this week. Look, I'm looking forward

1784
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 2: to them getting people fired up for all things UFC

1785
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: on MK.

1786
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: All right, we certainly do all right, So just a

1787
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: couple of housekeeping notes. As always, if you want to

1788
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: follow us on social media, lots of different ways to

1789
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: do it. We are on Twitter, we are on Instagram.

1790
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: On names differ there a little bit, but it's consistently

1791
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: Morning Combat, as you can see there on the screen

1792
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: all the way through. So please give us a follow

1793
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: you want to turn into Morning Submission or something for

1794
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Dead Wrong, provided it is even remotely accurate. One place

1795
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: to do that Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the email.

1796
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: Of course, Showtime is the label that pays us, so

1797
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: go to Showtime dot com for a thirty day free trial.

1798
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: If you're like it, you can keep it. If not,

1799
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: you can go to something else of your life. And

1800
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 1: of course all that merch that you saw on the

1801
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Fans submissions is available at store dot show dot com.

1802
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Any parting thoughts, BC, you know.

1803
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: Were your masks. I want to be back at fights.

1804
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: I want fights to have big crowds. Luke, can we

1805
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 2: stop going out to the bar in Florida. Can we

1806
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, can we uh, can we beat this thing?

1807
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: Luke? No?

1808
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe? All right, Well, with that in mind, let's

1809
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: do this uh for BC, for uh Malca, Showtime, CBS

1810
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: Sports and everybody else. Will be back Friday with a

1811
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: preview of UFC and ABC one. And until next time,

1812
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: where your mask donks, and may all of your gains

1813
01:27:38,439 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: be loyal.