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Speaker 1: Never been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Casey,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Welcome to the show. How are you hi, guys.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're trying to figure out for you.

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Speaker 1: On waiting by the phone. Casey reached out to us

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Speaker 1: because you believe a guy named James might be ghosting you.

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Speaker 1: But we need to know the backstory. How did you meet?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about any days you've been on, and then

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Speaker 1: where things are stand now and how we can help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So this guy James, we had actually met on Tinder

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Speaker 3: and we talked for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: We really hit it off. We were, you know, yapping

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Speaker 2: back and.

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Speaker 3: Forth, and then he finally asked me out and I

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Speaker 3: was so excited for this. And then on the day

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Speaker 3: of the date, I didn't hear anything from James. It

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Speaker 3: was like a total ghost So I'm calling you, guys

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Speaker 3: because I'm hoping that you can put me back in

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Speaker 3: touch with him so that we can finally meet in person.

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Speaker 1: So you actually never there was never a date, so

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Speaker 1: you were ghosted pre date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never even met him in person. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen him.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, Okay, which I just want to know why.

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Speaker 2: I never got a chance. That's why.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, right, Like how do

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Speaker 1: you go from chatting it up to and planning a

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Speaker 1: date to the end the date just never happens? Like

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Speaker 1: how do we you know what I mean? Like you

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Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to screw it up? I don't think.

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Speaker 3: And I thought that we had a pretty good back

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Speaker 3: and forth, Like I thought that.

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Speaker 2: There was chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Hmm. All right, Well, I'm gonna play a song. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back in two or three minutes. We're gonna call

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Speaker 1: this guy James. You'll be on the phone. We'll ask

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Speaker 1: these questions at some point. You're welcome to jump in,

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Speaker 1: and we're hoping that we can get this first. Did

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Speaker 1: going for you and pay for it?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Thank you so much?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Casey, Yes, welcome back. Let's call this guy James.

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Speaker 1: You guys were chatting on Tinder, you matched on the

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Speaker 1: dating app Tender, and you were planning a date, deep

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Speaker 1: into planning stages, except the guy ghosted you before you

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Speaker 1: could actually go on the date. And you're wondering, how

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Speaker 1: do we go from all this, you know back and

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Speaker 1: forth that you thought was going really well and into

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Speaker 1: the planning a date only for the dates never happened. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: well let's call James now, good luck, Casey, I love Hi.

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Speaker 1: Is this James? It is hi James, good morning. My

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Speaker 1: name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show, the

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Speaker 1: Morning radio show, and I have to tell you the

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Speaker 1: whole crew is here and we are on the radio,

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Speaker 1: and I would need your permission to continue with the call.

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Speaker 1: Can which that for just a second? Would you mind?

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry? What is what's dis regarding?

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Speaker 1: Sure? That's yes. So we're actually calling on behalf of

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Speaker 1: a woman named Casey who says that she matched with

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Speaker 1: you on Tinder, the dating app, and I guess you

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Speaker 1: guys chatted about a date.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, Okay, I guess I know what

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Speaker 4: you're talking about. Now.

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Speaker 1: You said, this is the radio, right, So what happened?

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about that? So what happened with the date planning? Here?

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Speaker 1: Because we talked to her for a while and she

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Speaker 1: said that you guys had matched and then you'd planned

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Speaker 1: a date that then never happened, and now you're not

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Speaker 1: responding to her. So how do we go from planning

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Speaker 1: a date and you know, trying to meet to now

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Speaker 1: we don't talk at all? What happened?

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Speaker 4: Wow? I mean, you know what, I'm not even surprised

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Speaker 4: that she's the now has this happening? Now? Listen, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't normally call a woman crazy, but I've got vibes

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Speaker 4: that Casey might legitimately be crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we're all ears. Why do you think that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, honestly, I could tell beforehand something

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Speaker 4: which just genuinely off, Like, I mean, this is this

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Speaker 4: is crazy?

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm on the edge of my seat here, bro.

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Speaker 1: Why okay?

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Speaker 4: All right, listen, before the date, she took like pre

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Speaker 4: date internet stalking to a whole new level. All right,

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Speaker 4: she creeps me no online different platforms, but she not

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Speaker 4: just me. Like she found friends and family members, requested

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Speaker 4: to follow them, liked old photos, commented on them, and

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Speaker 4: message them. Yeah, I'm not joking.

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Speaker 1: She did you give her your last name? Or was

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Speaker 1: she able to do all this with a photograph in

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Speaker 1: your first name?

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Speaker 4: I think it might have been on the app or

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Speaker 4: I might have given her somehow. I didn't expect this

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Speaker 1: That, Like it's one thing to maybe say, hey, can

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Speaker 1: I follow you on Instagram or can I have your

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Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever. It's a whole different thing to start

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Speaker 1: following family members and mom and dad and messaging them

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Speaker 1: and commenting because you've never met this person, and so

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Speaker 1: you don't even know what to tell the people who

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Speaker 1: are asking, like, who is this commenting on my stuff?

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Speaker 1: Who is this person that says that they know you?

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Speaker 1: You don't even know.

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Speaker 4: Them exactly exactly. Listen to it. She friended my mom

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Speaker 4: on Facebook and commented on photos from like twenty twelve,

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Speaker 4: and she comment on baby photo of me and another

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Speaker 4: one of me and my cousin, and she wrote, who's

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Speaker 4: the girl? Oh? Yeah, my mom doesn't even know if

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Speaker 4: she existed. I don't tell her about girls.

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Speaker 1: Before the girl you never even met in person.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I kind of feel bad because, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not surprising. Casey's on the phone and she's been listening

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Speaker 1: to all of this, and I feel like I'm enabling

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Speaker 1: it now kind of Casey, what's the deal? You guys

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Speaker 1: haven't met? You know, you don't really have permission to

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Speaker 1: go off and explore the guys you know in the

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Speaker 1: entire life and friend all these people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but technically, like I do have the permission because

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Speaker 3: I do, I can.

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Speaker 1: And well just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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Speaker 2: But like it's normal for people to creep. Everyone does it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, any secret everyone knows. You don't let

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Speaker 1: anyone know you did it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm an honest person, so at least I'm upfront

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Speaker 3: about it. Well, I'm the father of my children at

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Speaker 3: this point, like I need to know who I'm getting

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Speaker 2: And I think he has a really great family.

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Speaker 1: You don't know them, you don't even know him, you

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Speaker 1: haven't met him. You can't be out here you don't

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Speaker 1: know these period really hit it off, though, I have

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Speaker 1: to say, James, I I feel you. I understand why

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Speaker 1: this is concerning and weird. And then unfortunately this sort

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Speaker 1: of adds another layer to it. Yeah, Casey, you can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Like you need to meet these people, and

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Speaker 1: even then, you kind of got to become a fixture

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Speaker 1: before you start friending people and talking to people and

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Speaker 1: commenting on things you don't know. And then for you

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Speaker 1: to be asking who women are in pictures from a

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Speaker 1: time before you met and it turns out that they're family.

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Speaker 1: But like, even then that looks weird. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: has a right to know other people before he met you.

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Speaker 2: It was it was honest curiosity.

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Speaker 1: It was honest him to know or maybe don't look

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Speaker 1: at all. How about that?

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Speaker 2: I would love I would love a ends.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a huge compliment for me to say

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Speaker 3: I love your family and I don't.

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Speaker 1: Even know them. You haven't met them, right, that's the problem, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a very nice compliment to give the people you've

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Speaker 1: never met me. You shouldn't be giving compliments. Maybe they're

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Speaker 1: not great. How about that? Yeah? I would that would

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Speaker 1: concern me too. Honestly, I think he has the right

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Speaker 1: to be like, I don't want anything to do with

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Speaker 1: this because it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, well I want to know what James thinks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you say, James?

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Speaker 4: I think this whole thing's crazy. I think these guys

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Speaker 4: are championing me very well, thank you. I was kind

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Speaker 4: of hoping I could just avoid this conversation, but when

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Speaker 4: you were commenting who's this person, who's this girl that

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Speaker 4: my family's and that, who's this girl? And I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you give me a chance.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But I think we're just doing things in the

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Speaker 1: wrong order here. He gives you a chance, and then,

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Speaker 1: maybe slowly in time, you meet these people and then

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Speaker 1: you know at which point it might be appropriate to

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Speaker 1: go friend them on Facebook or whatever. But you don't

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Speaker 1: know them, he doesn't know you. No one knows each other.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit strange, James. I last

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Speaker 1: the question, I know the answer. Would you like to

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Speaker 1: go out with Casey again? She knows your whole family already,

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Speaker 1: So that's nice.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm going to respectfully decline, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I am never shopping it again.

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Speaker 4: Oh great. She'd also knows where I worked apparently.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that wasn't disclosed either. Well LinkedIn I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that, I guess. So wow. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: like not yeah, this is not good. All right, look

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Speaker 1: Casey leave him alone, please, James, good luck to you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you,