1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte. Oh my goodness, you guys, we have 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the most special guest. It's the return of Easton, our producer. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: This is such a thrill. Thank you. 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: I love having you back and for this particular episode especially. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: It's called The Big Time. It aired July thirtieth, two thousand. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: It is directed by Alison Andrews, written by Jenny Biks 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited to have a male perspective. Okay, 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited to share. It's got some big topics in 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: this one. Big topics. Okay. So when I think of 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: this episode, I think of Charlotte storyline involving the boat. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Like you know how there are some things that I 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: remember really clearly, you know about about filming, and some 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: things I have no memory. A little. The boat I 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: definitely remember because it was very beautiful, very cold. There's 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: two scenes on the boat. One I'm not wearing a 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: rap and the other I have this like pashmina wrapped around. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: I think, I like, couldn't stop shivering level cold. I'm 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: always cold, as you know, but it was gorgeous. But 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: another situation like the Staten Island Ferry. This was like 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: our boat season. For some reason. We start season three 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: with the stet Island Ferry. Now we're on this like 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: it's like a party boat, you know. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: Like a small yacht or something. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was pretty nice. I remember being 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: pretty nice. And we also had to do the thing 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: we did on the Stateland Ferry, which was turn the 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: boat around so that the background matched. 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, because you're. 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Getting the city on one side and New Jersey on 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: the other. We were in the Hudson River, so you couldn't 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: just keep sailing down the river, right, you had to 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: turn back around so that it matched for each take, right, 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: And you know, it's such a pain. But it was 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: really pretty fun, except that it was really cold. But 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember being really fun. And I remember it being 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: fun partly because Kyle at that point was this was 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: his second episode. Weird that he came in the middle 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: because we would have you know, a director would do 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: two at a time. Yes, right, so I guess he 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: came in the middle and did one with Alison, No, sorry, 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: one with Nicole, one with Alison. Anyway, he was brand new, right, 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: and this is the episode where you really see clearly 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: that the original idea for Trey was that he was 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: not interesting. 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Yep. 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Because he's telling the story of how he met He's 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: telling it so adorably right, and obviously I as Charlotte 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and like just hang on every word, and I think 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: it's so cute and funny. And Carrie's voiceover is telling 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: us that she already remembers all the details because she's 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: heard it so many times, so that this I think 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: we abandon this after this episode because he's Kyle and 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: you just can't continue down this road of that he's 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: not that interesting and exciting. 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, even when he's delivering this like boring story, he's 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: got that you know voice, I mean. 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: The voice and the kind of delivery, Like, he's got 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: a very interesting, off kilter delivery, which I think obviously 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: makes so much sense sense for you know, Twin Pine, 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: twin Peaks in the Pines whatever, toon Peaks, but also 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: for all the he just brings that with him, you know, 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: even though obviously very very different character, but it works 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: so perfectly also, which is also I think for me, 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: I just remember being so excited that we got him 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: right and thinking like, well, wait, we can't we can't 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: have him for just like three or five or whatever 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be, right, because he's him, and 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: he's like so dreamy and so good and so nice. Yes, 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: like it's just rare, you know, it's just pretty rare, 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I have to say. So obviously everyone agreed with me, 72 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: and therefore we have two seasons pretty much. I mean, 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how many, but we have him 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: definitely for for third season and for a season. 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, when I look back at the Breath of 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Sex and the City, I always think, like with Charlotte, 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: it's Harry and Trey, like those are the you know, 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: of course, yeah, like such a major. 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: There are unfortunately a lot of other guys in between them, 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: but they don't even really deserve a mention. I mean, 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: but you know that they that I do love about her. 82 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: And this is what I love about television as a viewer. 83 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: I love a long arc, yes, Like that's the joy 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: of television in my mind. It's not what we grew 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: up on though, you know, when we grew up it 86 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: was like sitcoms and soap oppers. I guess soap operas 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: is a long arc, but in a different way, right, 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: But like that's the joy of you know, HBO, that 89 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: they would let you just lean in to things that 90 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: weren't clear, you know. Obviously. Also we have such a 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: big episode with Carrie and Aiden and big again, Like 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: it's so good when you watch it back, and you 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: know most of the things that people say to me. 94 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I did just meet a lady in Starbucks. She was 95 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: thirty one, so I don't know what I should call 96 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: a girl, a woman, a woman, a woman in Starbucks 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and she told me she had just started watching. 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I know, the first time, just now, and. 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: She said, yes, it's really it resonates. I'm like, good, yes, 100 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I said, I'm really jealous. It's really fun to watch 101 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: it the first time. She's very sweet, and I almost 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: told her to listen to the podcast, but I didn't. Anyway, 103 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: maybe she'd find us. 104 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: I find you just start watching an episode then see Charlotte. 105 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: I know, I was talking to her dog. She had 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: a really cute dots and I was talking to her 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: dog for a little bit before she figured it out. 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. But also it's just so rare. 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: It's so rare and kind of wonderful that people would 110 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: just now be finding it. But one of the things 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: that I thought about when one of the things people 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: tell me and I thought about when I was rewatching 113 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: this episode. You know how they just if you're on 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Netflix or on HBO Max, it just goes into the 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: next episode. It's very hard to turn it off. It is. 116 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: I fell into that trap. 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Me and I should totally know what is going to happen, 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: but A I don't remember, and B you don't really 119 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: care if you know what's gonna happen, you just don't 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: want to stop. You don't want to stop. And I 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: think a lot of that, you know, and it's it's 122 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: all of us, I know. But like Sarah Jessica is 123 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: just so fucking good, Like yes, it is crazy to me, 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Like I know her, I love her. Obviously, every time 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: she went an word, I was like the biggest clapper, 126 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, like I always want her to win and 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I think she deserves everything. But like even now, I 128 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: look back and I'm like the subtlety, the torn element 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: you know in Big, because this is the episode where 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Big calls her when Aiden goes out to get a 131 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: coffee filter. What I had forgotten all of this right, 132 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Like it's such a trip. But also John with his 133 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: little baby face. It's just I mean, oh my god. 134 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: And Chris, because you know, in the beginning, we're so 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: so tortured. I felt as an audience and people are 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna text me and be like, are you talking about 137 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: the show like it's real, And I'm like, yes, okay, 138 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm sucked in you guys, all right, yeah, And now 139 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: it's real to me, I'm now understanding because all the 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: whole time that I wasn't rewatching people talk to me 141 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, you know, you know, it's you know, 142 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: it's faked. People. Right now, I totally understand. It seems 143 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: so real. It seems so real because it's so well done. 144 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Like our writers did such a great job in the writing, 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: and I mean all of us too, but like you 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: have to start with the writing in these type situations, 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, like it's key. So anyway, She's 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: just so good. And then when Chris, because we are 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I felt so tortured by him in the first season, 150 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: like he's so withholding on and on and on. And 151 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: then one of her things and this is the big 152 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: theme of the episode that I need your male perspective 153 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: on is timing, which I think is a really good question, 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: really interesting question about people and relationships and what you're 155 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: ready for and what you're not ready for, and how 156 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you can't really change that. Sometimes, you know, it's a 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: hard thing to be like, well, this person that I'm 158 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: with needs a baby, Like in the Stephen Miranda situation, 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Steve wants a baby, and she's like, well, you're insane, 160 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: And I totally see her point, Like we were talking 161 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: about this before we started recording, like it does totally 162 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: change your life. And on the other hand, I feel 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: really bad for Steve. 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: I do, but I am. I had a hard time 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: to see you in this episode. 166 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: He does seeild, Yes, And. 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: I see this from men a lot that want a 168 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: baby and do not think anything beyond the like, oh, Gewis, 169 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna be great to play catch with my kid, 170 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: won't it, And like they don't think about everything else 171 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: that comes with it. Yeah, and you know who that 172 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: falls on. 173 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: I do, mom, I certainly do know. I certainly do know. 174 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a single parent, as you know, but 175 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean it is I watch all my girlfriends go 176 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: through this too. I mean it's like, in some ways 177 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I have it better because I don't have anybody to 178 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: be mad at you know what I'm saying, which is great, 179 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean not County Hannah's husband. Yeah, but you know, 180 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: I feel for both of them. That The reason that 181 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: I feel for Steve is because I feel like when 182 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with a person, man or woman, 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: if that other person is having that baby feeling, you 184 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: know that it's like a calling, you know, in my mind, right, 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: you really have to honor it as the other person. 186 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Now that might mean saying to them, I'm so sorry, 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: but I'm just not there, right, male or female. Sometimes 188 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: that happens. Like Miranda's definitely not there. Of course we 189 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, but let's just go with this episode. Right, 190 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: she's not there. She's trying to be a partner at 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: her job. She's very focused. She also feels like he's 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: a child and she's not wrong, right, she is not 193 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: wrong at all. But on the other hand, I feel 194 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: like he's kind of he's so open, you know, he's 195 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: so open, his heart is so open, and he puts 196 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: up with her being kind of mean to him, you know, 197 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and then he's like, we just you know, we would 198 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: be so great to have a baby, and like there's 199 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: a part of me where I'm just like, oh, he's 200 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: so pure, you know what I mean. But I can 201 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: also see her point very much so, and of course 202 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: we do know what does happen. But I have to say, 203 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: because anyone who's seen the whole show, Steve is a 204 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: great dat. Yes, yeah, he grows. He grows as a person, 205 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: for sure, But when you see him watching that Scooby Doo, 206 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I'm like, man, Miranda, hmm, you gotta. 207 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I mean the all me 208 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: and mommy thing, and I mean we all do stuf 209 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: refer to mean mommy. Like like I'll be like, like 210 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: if we were working you know this this past past 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: show and my kids were with us or whatever, I'd 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: just be like, I was such a mean mommy. I 213 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: was a mean mommy this morning. Like we're still it's 214 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: like a lingo, you know what I mean, because we 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: all get it. We've all been there. We've all been there. Okay, 216 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Carrie's storyline. Yes, Okay, So they 217 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: start it's her and baby Face Aiden, which I think 218 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: is just what we should call it because it's like, 219 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like almost like a different person. It's 220 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: super interesting, like really adorable, very adorable, so adorable, and 221 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: like like when I'm jumping around, but when he has 222 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: his dog, I also love that all these dogs are 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: showing up now and I'm about to get my dog too. 224 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what came over our writers. They 225 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: were just like, does everyone get dogs? But I love it? 226 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: Of course. So Aiden's got his dog and Steve gets 227 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: his dog. In this episode, Charlotte doesn't have her dog yet, 228 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: but she's she's coming. But when he Carrie tells him 229 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: that she has to go on the boat party, and 230 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: he's out there by himself with the dog, and he's 231 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: just like, oh shucks, Like he's adorable. 232 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: That outfit he's wearing in that moment he looks just 233 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: up at a studio fifty four. Yeah, he's got this 234 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: like purple kind of shirt that's like unbuttoned a little bit. 235 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: He's like cool glasses. It's very groovy and that see. 236 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, John's pretty groovy. I would have to ask 237 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Mollie who put what on him? At that point. I 238 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: do know, as I think I've said already, that John 239 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: has a lot of say in his wardrobe. Yes, and 240 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: John has a very unique, you know, sense of style. 241 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think his vibe it does. 242 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: It definitely matches his vibe. He's a very unique person. 243 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: And one other thing I want to point out about 244 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Aiden's room that I watching this. He has a Ouiji 245 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: board at the foot of his bed that like out 246 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: of He's using it as a counter for because there's 247 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: like a bowl of cereal it. He has a Wigi 248 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: board sitting down there. I'm like, what's Itiden doing in 249 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: the middle of the night. Is we submoning spirits who 250 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: just asually has a Wigi board sitting around there? Phone, 251 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't. 252 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Believe you notice that is so funny. I didn't even notice, 253 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: but I'm sure John Corbett was like, yes, yes, leave 254 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: the Ouiji board, the Oigi board stay. I mean, who 255 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: in set deck came up with that would be my 256 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: question for that. And I never ever noticed. But I 257 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: did notice that we see Charlotte's door in hallway. So 258 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm getting more apartment. It's a good thing, you know. 259 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: I've moved away from the two flats that were in 260 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: my bedroom, even though previously we had that the time 261 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: where Samantha sleeps with my dormant and we had a 262 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: hallway with a bookcase in it. Yes, but that was 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: a real apartment that wasn't a set, and we never 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: see it again because I was like, wait, what is that? 265 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: Like? 266 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: What is that? 267 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean? 268 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Luckily it was white, right, so it wasn't like not 269 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: true to Charlotte. But I was like, I've never seen 270 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: that hallway. And then also when I am a man 271 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: and I take the picture, I hang it in a hallway. Yes, 272 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't know what that hallway 273 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: is either, where's that hallway? But maybe they got they 274 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: put my white flat in a hallway position. I don't know. 275 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: But this was an actual I feel like a set 276 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: of an apartment door. I don't think we were on location. 277 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I think I figure that out when I'm watching 278 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: this and like, okay, this was a set. What was real? 279 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: I thought that for a second. I'm sorry, this is 280 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: so naive of me. I thought. When I was watching 281 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: the boat, I was like, are they actually because I 282 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: know it wasn't a The green screens were good at 283 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: that point. 284 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, they were horrible. They were horrible. Okay, Oh, 285 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: this is like the year two thousand, so we could 286 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: never afford that it was like so expensive to us 287 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: a green screen or should do anything in posts? Like 288 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: when they would say like, oh we have to do 289 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: it in post, that meant everyone was having a breakdown. 290 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It like the digital of 291 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: it all had not happened, had not made it to 292 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: the screen, really, you know. 293 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: And I also thought for a second that the boat 294 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: was maybe just docked. 295 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: We're out there, we're out there, and that wind is blowing. 296 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: You can see my hair. 297 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: That was my next question is how much adr did 298 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: you have to do for that? 299 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh? I might have had to do the whole thing. 300 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean we are always body micd Now you might 301 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: ask where would we put those body mics because it 302 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: is a big challenge, Okay, big challenge. And I'm wearing 303 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: that little cheffon Doul chain to Gobana dress. I can 304 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: tell you for sure that mic is in a place 305 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: that we cannot discuss. That mic is hidden in a 306 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: place that's super uncomfortable, and that involves being in a 307 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: dressing room to do which is not normal for sets. 308 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Like the sound guys want to come up and put 309 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: the mic on you on set. That's what they like. 310 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: But we just teach our guys, like, just put the 311 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: mic and the mic pack in my dressing room. I 312 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: know how to turn it on. Let us handle it 313 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: because it's going to be in some clothing in a 314 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: way that you can't can't get to, you know what 315 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean. That's that's just how it was. I mean, 316 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: And back then the mike packs were like decently large, 317 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: so it was uncomfortable. They're much smaller now, thank god, 318 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: thank god it's a whole drama. But they never would 319 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: trust like a boom. I mean, we would have a 320 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: boom there because you're always trying to get double. And 321 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: then we did do a fair amount of ADR. But 322 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: when I watched the scene with Kyle, I didn't feel 323 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like it was ADR. But maybe 324 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: that's just how good we are. I'm not sure. 325 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: Yea, the perform felt like it was in the moment, 326 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: but it sounded really good. So I was like, they're 327 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: on that. I know they're on a windy boat. 328 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I know I would because you can see my hair 329 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: is going crazy. Because I was gonna say, I wonder 330 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: if they put up a wind screen, because sometimes they'll 331 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: put up like just off camera, like a windscreen that 332 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: someone's holding like, oh, you know, but my hair is 333 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: obviously very much wind blown, and Kyle's is like slightly 334 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: wind blown, but not as much as mine because I'm 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: on the edge, you know, the railing of the boat. 336 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know. I need to watch 337 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: it now again to tell you. Easton. I'm not sure, 338 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: but I think it's the body mic. I mean, if 339 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: we looped it, we did. We did really well, yeah, 340 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: let's put it that way. But I mean I do 341 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: feel like there was looping for every episode. I'd say 342 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: at that point, like like we would go in and 343 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: we knew our guys and we you know, it was 344 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: like part of it, you know what I'm saying, It's. 345 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: Part of the process. 346 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Totally, totally. Okay. So Carrie, we start in bed with 347 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: the baby faced Aiden and they're like they're never leaving, 348 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: They've got food. She says, when do you think they're 349 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: going to send someone to get us? And he's like 350 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe when spring thaw comes or something. Adorable. It's very adorable, 351 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: so it's obviously going very very well. Then she goes 352 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: she goes out this crazy outfit with these lavender tights 353 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: up to her her waist, which I feel like someone 354 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: just dresses Halloween And did you see that, Hannah? Oh, 355 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: it was on our social I think that someone wore 356 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: it for Halloween. That particular outfit. It's like shorts or 357 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: a skirt. It's a skirt over some purple tights with 358 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: high high heels and some kind of a mid drift 359 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: bearing situation. I don't know. It's adorable. It's not one 360 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: that I remember, but I do need to ask Molly 361 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: about it because it's really funny and good. It's like 362 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: a six year old my dress. 363 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: Yes, And I love the wide shot of her like exasperated, 364 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: was stomping away from the dry clear. 365 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. And the funny thing I think when 366 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: I watch those moments, Sarah is so physical. Her comedic 367 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: timing and her physicality is so good, and over time 368 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel I don't know if I 369 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: should say this, but I feel like she didn't want 370 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: to do that as much or whatever, but back in 371 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: the day she was so free with it, you know. 372 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: And it's really good because that shot across the street. 373 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of what I love about Allison's direction 374 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: this particular episode especially, there's a lot of two shots 375 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of masters, as we would call them, 376 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: that they just keep in the master for a decent 377 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: amount of time. Like there's a whole scene with Carrie 378 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: and Big when they first bump into each other in 379 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: the boat. I think they're in the master for a 380 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: while because this guy kind of jostles them and they 381 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: fall into each other. But then we cut into her 382 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: face and you could just see her looking at him 383 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: with such powerful eyes, you know, and then they when 384 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: we go back and we see them again on the boat, 385 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: there's a master for kind of a bit of time, 386 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: just to see their body language. It's so good, And 387 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I remember really wanting to do that a lot more. 388 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: And then someone somewhere, possibly HBO people, wanted to cut 389 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: into two close ups. But I remember Sir Jessica used 390 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: to always say, you know, we need the distant shots 391 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: so that you can see the whole outfit and the 392 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: shoes and really get a feeling of the city. 393 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, And to me as a viewer, those shots 394 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: feel I feel like I'm there at the party. I 395 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: feel like I'm part of this, you know, as watching 396 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: TV shows, right, like if you were there. 397 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: The party and you just looked over like you're a person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 398 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: that's true. That does feel like that. I totally felt 399 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: that way too, and I was there, but I still 400 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: totally felt that way. So we're with Aiden, we're with 401 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: Aid and Carry, and they're in bed and they're not 402 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: going to get out and they have to send people. 403 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: Then she's going to go to this party for a 404 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: magazine called Gab, which obviously made up right like what 405 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: on Earth? And then she dropped some very funny names 406 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: when they're on that boat. But she's going to go 407 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: to the magazine party, and then Aiden basically says like 408 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to go, which is adorable and odd 409 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, but obviously we need to see big 410 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: so it's fine. Then she tries to get her clothes 411 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: from the dry cleaner in the funny outfit. She tries 412 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: twice and they're like no, which I also feel. The 413 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: drag cleaner's in New York City, for some reason, are 414 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: never open and it makes no sense, like everything is 415 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be open, just like we say on the show. 416 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: I've had this experience myself. You walk by in the 417 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: middle of the day, the drag cleaner's closed, like why, why? 418 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: It's odd? Anyway, I feel what carry's going through. So 419 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: then we're at the boat and for some reason Natasha 420 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: is not there, which he never explains, and she never 421 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: really presses, which is also interesting. But she also kind 422 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: of get the feeling that he came to see her 423 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: where she feels, but then she doesn't know because she's 424 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: all like trying to be appropriate and whatnot, you know, 425 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: slightly aloof and she walks away from him, which I 426 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: thought was so great, right, And he's very you know, 427 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: charming basically in his way, and he asked her if 428 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: they're seeing someone, and she says yes and that he's perfect, 429 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so then this part I didn't remember 430 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: this at all. And it's so funny to think about 431 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: voicemail machines that we all used to have. But when 432 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you go to play the voicemail machine, everyone in the 433 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: room can hear it, Like how mortifying? How do we 434 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: live through this? 435 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: It's funny I think about, like when you play it 436 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: back when we can hear And also if you're at 437 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: home with friends and someone calls her like, oh, let 438 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: the machine get it, they're going to hear it. 439 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I mean I can't believe more problems didn't 440 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: happen like you know, it's like, wow, it's a lot. 441 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: So Carrie, Carrie comes home with Aiden, and Aiden says 442 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: something vague about like I'm going to set the timer, 443 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: and I was like timer, does he have a child 444 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: who has iPad? Time? Like That's what went through my head. 445 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I was like, where did they didn't go? But the 446 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: other funny thing is that her apartment's really tiny, so 447 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: he just walks to the little kitchenette area. He could 448 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: totally have heard Big yes, but he acts like he doesn't. 449 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: And he says, you know, they do. They also cut 450 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: to him from her angle right that looks like he's 451 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: far away. He's so not far away, which I think 452 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: we all know right, like now that we know her 453 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: apartment like the back of her hand. But she's right 454 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: there by the door playing and BIG's like loud like 455 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: I carry him downstairs or whatever. I'm on your corner. 456 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: He says something like in a panic. He sounds like 457 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: panic for him, right, and she's like ah and she 458 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: stops it. So then Aiden says, you're out of coffee filters, 459 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: and I think he says, does he say he's going 460 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: to the Korean to get it? He says something weird. 461 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: That is what he said. Jumped out at me. As 462 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: not having been a New Yorker in the two thousands, 463 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I. 464 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Assume Bodega, yes, Bodega, Aiden, do you not know? And 465 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I guess the truth is he might not. He's Aiden, 466 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: he's from Virginia where he's from, right, like you know 467 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Woods totally. I was like, that's so funny that you're 468 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: going to Korean but okay, So he's going to the 469 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Korean to get it, to get a coffee filter and 470 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: then he there, he leaves and then there's not knocking. 471 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: She opens the door. She thinks it's Aidan, but it's Big. 472 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Panic. I felt panic. And then she says, 473 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And he says, didn't you 474 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: get my message? And she goes, what wait? I paused it? 475 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: And then he says, was that the guy the perfect boyfriend? 476 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: And she was like yes, and he's coming back. And 477 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I felt very stressed, very stressed, even though I couldn't 478 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: really remember what happened. I was like, I don't think 479 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: Aiden comes back and finds him, but I mean he 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: totally could. What the heck? Right? And then Big is 481 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: all like I'm so fucked up. I was like, oh, 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: that is lame, man, what did you think? 483 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: I had the exact same reaction. I was like, you know, 484 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: I remember acting like this when I was like seventeen. Yeah, yeah, 485 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: like doing some big dramatic the drama. 486 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Drama. Yeah, the drama is a lot. 487 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: I can't imagine hearing that. That's like how old is 488 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: big supposed to be? Like it is like forties. Yeah. 489 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I was like, come on, man, what are you doing? 490 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: I mean, for sure that's who he is. 491 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I guess that's it is who he is. 492 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: But it did I did think about the drama, and 493 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: I did think about like, huh, like I don't really 494 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: remember this, but it works, right because I think the 495 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: reason that it works, or that it seems like it 496 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: could happen, is that he is so withholding and covered 497 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that then like he's not fluid, you know, he doesn't 498 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: know how to communicate really, and she seems to understand 499 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: that somehow, you know, which is kind of sweet, but 500 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: then also really not. 501 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: Does he leave the message? The message is before the 502 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: party on the boat, okay, because I'm wondering, like how 503 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: much of his overflow of emotion and passion for Carrie 504 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: is from seeing her and learning that she has someone 505 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: new in the idea that even though he's with Natasha, 506 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: she is now even more entertainable. 507 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Easton, you're right on. I didn't even 508 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: think about all those things. I mean, for me, what 509 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: I thought, because I'm a woman, I was like, Oh, 510 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: he's just been pining. He's just been pining and trying 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: to figure out how to see her. So he gets 512 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: he goes to this party thinking he's going to see her. 513 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't bring his wife because he's pining. Right, I 514 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: didn't even think about the whole unobtainable But that's so true. 515 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I agree that he did probably go without 516 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: Natasha to see her, but then then the extra layer 517 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: of like maybe the reality of seeing her coupled with 518 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: she has a boyfriend that she thinks is perfect. 519 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that can hurt. That can hurt good 520 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: time for sure. And I think he definitely seems to 521 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: be And I don't know if this is true for 522 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: all men. I know there are some people who think 523 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: this is true for all men. But you know, he's 524 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: seen to be the type of man who needs a 525 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: bit of a chase situation. 526 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: Yes, he does. 527 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's what I think about that. But 528 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's all men. 529 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that's all men, but I think it's 530 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: a large majority. And I don't know if this is 531 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: the right. Like I've seen this. I don't personally believe this, 532 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: but I have seen this out there the whole like 533 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: men are hunters. They want to you know, like I 534 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: think that's kind of it's dumb, but like part of 535 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: me is like, h God, is there any is there 536 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: truth to that? 537 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's truth to 538 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: it either. I wonder about that. I mean, they're very 539 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: well might be truth. I mean it's also like you 540 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: remember when Charlotte dates are a handyman. Yeah, because there's something 541 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: adorable about a guy fixing things in your apartment. Like 542 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: that's such a very old school kind of thing. But 543 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean I relate to it. 544 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: It's true. I can't. I'll fix the WiFi. My wife doesn't. 545 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: She does not react at. 546 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: All but positive. 547 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: She's excited, she's happy, but she's not like but if 548 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: I man, I I've changed a light fixture the first time. 549 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: That was another level. You know, when it's like something. 550 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, I know that's adorable. It's nice. It's definitely nice. 551 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend once who was frustrated with the 552 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: door in my old New York apartment because it was 553 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: like off or so I don't know something, and he 554 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: took it off the hinges and he standed it and 555 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: I took a lot of pictures wow, because it was 556 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: so cute. Yeah, so I totally know what you're saying. 557 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: I totally know what you're saying. And what is that? Like, 558 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: where does that come from? 559 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: You know? 560 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: It's so interesting, like is that socialization or is that 561 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: like innately in our brain, I wants. 562 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: To take care of me and make sure make me 563 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: feel safe. 564 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't really want that, right, So it's interesting because technically, 565 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: intellectually I don't actually want that, but then yet my 566 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: brain still responds, know what I mean exactly. It's wacky. 567 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: It's wacky. So with big, I think you're absolutely right. 568 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: All the different things play in for sure, And I 569 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: also feel like the drama plays in of like I'm 570 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: on the corner, Like that's not that's like I don't 571 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: like that, Like I would want someone to call me 572 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: and be like I'm on your corner. Yeah, you know 573 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. But obviously they're not us, right, But 574 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: it's very high drama, Like he's making it high drama. 575 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing this like street. 576 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Car name definitely so streetcar, so streetcar. And then he 577 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: waits till he leaves, and I mean it's a lot 578 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: of drama. But this is back to Sara Jessca. I mean, 579 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody's very good in this, but like, yes, 580 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: the way that she doesn't overplay somehow, like she's one 581 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent grounded and there and her eyes are saying 582 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: so much, but she's also just very she just trusts 583 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: the material and the writing and the situation a wait, 584 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: and she doesn't overdo it in any way because if 585 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: she had, it would be bad. Yes, you know, like 586 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: it makes me really appreciate her, the intelligent way that 587 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: she looks at material. 588 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's a it's a masterclass. I really watching it, 589 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: really really is. 590 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: And she's so funny in the early and so charming, 591 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: and then she's so real and like so panicked, and 592 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: you know she does have the amazing Aiden at this point, 593 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: especially super amazing Aiden, right, like really none of his 594 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: things have shown up yet. 595 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm a very public and longtime Aiden. I know, 596 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: I know which I've talked to your ear off about 597 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: watching this episode, and you know, trin this episode on 598 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: and I go, this is an eight episode, and here 599 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: we go, get let's fire up some hating and then no, 600 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: he's he has not committed any since to at. 601 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: This point, that really doesn't I don't think it's until 602 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: the wall. Yes, I think the wall is when we 603 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: get the first taste of like the oddities of Aiden 604 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. But he means, well, I mean I haven't 605 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: gotten to rewatch that yet. I only have the veguess 606 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: of memory. But it's kind of like what we're saying 607 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: that the positives of him just kind of gone too far. 608 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: Yes, right, exactly right. I think in a different excep 609 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: thinking about this, I'm like, normally I would be on 610 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: him for not going with her to the party. I know, like, 611 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't that it wasn't that big of a deal 612 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: to her, so that he didn't come. She didn't, She 613 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: wasn't mad. 614 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: She was it's not her part. I mean, she's her party. 615 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: She's just gonna go. She's not super excited about the 616 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: GAB party. But I think there's another version where I'm like, 617 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: he should have gone with her that party and then 618 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: this big thing wouldn't have happened. I didn't. I did 619 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: not react that way. But I could see that, and 620 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: I was trying to think, like, why didn't I react 621 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: that way? Because Aiden is fine at this point. 622 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Well, the other thing I think about it that I 623 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: liked about it because also I was like, well, why 624 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: didn't he go? I think it's because I think it's 625 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: because they're very different. And part of what we like 626 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: about him is that he's different from her, right, because 627 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: Big is similar to her. I mean, he's a much 628 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: more big deal than her, meaning the way the characters 629 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: are at that point in their lives. Right. But like, 630 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, he goes to those parties because he's in 631 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: the business, which she makes a little side joke. And 632 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize who he's based on 633 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: that he was, you know, a publisher person. But you know, 634 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: the idea of Big is that he was like a 635 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: very successful person in her same social circles, right, and 636 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: then Aiden is totally out of her social circles, a 637 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: furniture maker from some country place that we don't know. 638 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they said it somewhere I have to look back. 639 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: But you know, he's different, and I think that's what's 640 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of nice, right, And I think that's why Aiden 641 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go. And he's not saying I need 642 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: to be with you all the time, which is actually 643 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: nice from Aiden. 644 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Right, allowing her to have this separate part of her life. Right, 645 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: And he's not jealous, Yeah, exactly, very secure. 646 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not like who are you going to meet? 647 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: Which is good, which is very good, very good. So yeah, 648 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: Aiden's super interesting at this point to me. So then 649 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Big comes, he's up mess self and she's very sweet 650 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: to him, and she basically says at the very end 651 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: that oh he leaves after he says himself up. And 652 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: then Carrie listens to the message that he left on 653 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: the machine and he says he misses her and he 654 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about her. And she says, this is 655 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted to hear a year ago. Oh man, 656 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I felt that. I mean, like, this is the timing situation, 657 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: and this is what I think if I could say, 658 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I have like a list of things that I would 659 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: like to say to younger women, and this is one 660 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: of them. And I have at some point said this 661 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: to different younger women. I know, but here's the chance 662 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to say it to more. I think that one of 663 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: the biggest things that I didn't understand was the timing 664 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: of like where people are in life and how that 665 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: is going to relate to a relationship. I felt like, 666 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: if the feeling is strong enough, that is going to 667 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: dictate what someone is ready for. But I do not 668 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: think that's true. Now very Charlotte, I mean so Charlotte, 669 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: so Charlotte. But also I think Charlotte thinks that she's 670 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: only going to meet people that she's going to know 671 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and meet people who want what she wants, yes, right, 672 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: and she makes a lot of efforts for that to happen, 673 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: like her wacky episode where she's like, I'm going to 674 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: call the married guys of my friends or whatever. She's 675 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: just like, huh what what friends like what? But I 676 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: guess Charlotte has other friends and then that doesn't go 677 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that well. But that's how she meets Trey. But you know, 678 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: like she has her her different methodologies that she's going 679 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: to try to use to get that. But I think 680 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: she just assumes in an interesting way that you know, 681 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: these other guys want to you know, settle down and 682 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: get married and have you know, two point five kids 683 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: and live in a big apartment or whatever she wants. 684 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, isn't that what she wants? 685 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 686 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do think that's naive, right, But 687 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: I also think at the time, and I see this 688 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: in the writing of the show in a way that 689 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of, but I really notice it now 690 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty five perspective. The background of the show, 691 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: even with Miranda, who I never thought of as being 692 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: like this, And I've actually said to Cynthia, like, did 693 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: you remember that Miranda used to talk about trying to 694 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: get married? She's like what, I'm like, there's multiple episodes 695 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: where you just got not Like. What I remember Miranda 696 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: is that she's super independent and she wants to be 697 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: a partner, and she's you know, strong in all those things, 698 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: and that she is worried about dying alone. Yes, And 699 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that makes perfect emotional sense. There's that 700 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: one where her interior designer gets married to the guy 701 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: and she's like, that should have been me, and now 702 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: no one's going to be with me. No, no, no, 703 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, who's that person? But I think The 704 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: background of the conversation in the year two thousand and 705 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine was that all women want to get married. 706 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: That was the background, right, So that's where we're coming from. 707 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: So then like, that's why Samantha is like an outlier, 708 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: like a total complete outlier. Whereas now in twenty twenty five, 709 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: the statistics of the unmarried women are different. They were 710 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: changing already, right, And that's why they put us on 711 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: the cover of the Time magazine and wrote who needs 712 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: a husband? Which is one of my most favorite things ever, 713 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: as I think I say more than once. But now 714 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: the statistics match it, right, And especially like women over forty, 715 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: there's so many who've gotten divorced, and they're just like, 716 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't have time for that. I have my own income, 717 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: I can travel, I can do what I want, and 718 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much. But that 719 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: was just starting in the year two thousand. You know, 720 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't like the background noise. The background noise was 721 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: all women want to get married. Yes, it's interesting, Yes, okay, everybody, 722 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging with me in Easton. We have so 723 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: much to talk about that we are going to come 724 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: back later in the week. Please join US Easton and 725 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: i On. Are you a 726 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: Charlotte, We'll see you there, yeah,