Speaker 1: We are back with another spoiler review. Only listen to
Speaker 1: this episode if you don't mind having a movie completely
Speaker 1: ruined for you, or in this case.
Speaker 2: If you want to save your money and just have
Speaker 2: us tell you what happens.
Speaker 1: Because you really don't need to see this movie. It
Speaker 1: is called Hypnotic. It stars Ben Affleck, directed by Robert Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: and right off the bat, I kind of knew this
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the best movie.
Speaker 3: We saw no press for it there that existed. I
Speaker 3: saw it in the regal app Like I mean, at
Speaker 3: this point, we just like to go see a movie
Speaker 3: every weekend. It's it's nice to go sit in a dark,
Speaker 3: cool theater for two hours.
Speaker 2: We have the regal pass.
Speaker 1: Like I knew it existed because I like Robert Rodriguez
Speaker 1: and I like Ben Affleck. It just felt weird that
Speaker 1: this movie was coming out and there was really nothing
Speaker 1: surrounding it, no big press release. You know. I really
Speaker 1: had to even search to find the trailers of this movie.
Speaker 3: And then we saw it and I discovered why there
Speaker 3: was nothing around this movie.
Speaker 1: So what this movie is about is Ben Affleck plays
Speaker 1: this detective and he trying to find out the details
Speaker 1: about his missing daughter, and that's where it starts. So
Speaker 1: he's investigating this bank rubbery.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be set in Austin. It looked
Speaker 3: nothing like downtown Austin. I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: like the Sepia tone film they used, oh yeah, but
Speaker 3: it looked like a deserted like like cowboy western film,
Speaker 3: with like the dust everywhere. And I'm like, Austin does
Speaker 3: not look like that, Like Elpaso doesn't even look like that.
Speaker 1: Well, a big part of this movie I believe was
Speaker 1: filmed almost entirely on a set chucks out because Robert
Speaker 1: Driguez has his own production company in his own sets.
Speaker 1: So this movie very much felt like it was just
Speaker 1: enclosed in a situation instead of like in a real city.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I also picked up on the color scheme
Speaker 1: of this movie, and it just felt the way I
Speaker 1: describe it is it feels very much like a movie movie.
Speaker 1: Everything just felt like it was okay, here, this actor
Speaker 1: is gonna say this, We're gonna get this camera movement.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like a college student film level quality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like some if you're watching a really good movie,
Speaker 3: it feels like a real story or like something that
Speaker 3: you can imagine happening. But this like felt it was
Speaker 3: a movie for nothing other than pure entertainment. And I
Speaker 3: don't even know that that I was that entertained because
Speaker 3: I was so confused, and I was distracted by the
Speaker 3: man snoring in front of us. When we say snoring,
Speaker 3: I'm not just talking like you're run of the mill,
Speaker 3: like little nap time to the point where a woman
Speaker 3: two seats down went to try to wake him up.
Speaker 1: And this was about maybe he's thirty forty minutes into
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 2: He was also in our seats.
Speaker 1: But whatever we do, so where this movie went off
Speaker 1: the rails. It starts out with him trying to find
Speaker 1: out about his missing daughter, and then you learn about
Speaker 1: this bad guy who is manipulating people through hypnosis to
Speaker 1: get them to perform crimes. So Ben Affleck is trying
Speaker 1: to stop him. He goes and takes a tip from this.
Speaker 1: It gets more and more crazy as I talk about it.
Speaker 1: He goes, he takes this tip and goes to this.
Speaker 3: Bank where somebody has said there's about to be a robbery.
Speaker 1: And he is watching it, and then he breaks into
Speaker 1: the bank to try to.
Speaker 3: Stop the discover weird things are happening because like this
Speaker 3: guy that they're looking at like hypnotizes this woman and
Speaker 3: she walks out into the street and like causes an
Speaker 3: accident and a distraction, and then the bank heist happens,
Speaker 3: and he like chases this guy, and then he sees
Speaker 3: more people getting hypnotized and doing weird things.
Speaker 1: And ben Affleck goes into the safety deposit box and
Speaker 1: takes a picture that turns out to be a picture
Speaker 1: of his daughter, and he's like, why is this in here?
Speaker 1: And then the bad guys get away, and then.
Speaker 3: They track down the phone call to like a tarot
Speaker 3: card reader, and he goes to her shop.
Speaker 1: And she tells him about this bad guy who is
Speaker 1: like the most powerful hypnotic who is able to turn
Speaker 1: people into his minions basically.
Speaker 3: But is it then that we learned that ben Affleck
Speaker 3: has some mind power, a wall in his mind.
Speaker 1: That he can't he can't be controlled.
Speaker 3: Which can I just go ahead and spoil it? Turns
Speaker 3: out because he's a hypnotic.
Speaker 2: Done done done.
Speaker 1: It goes on a very long and windy road to
Speaker 1: get there.
Speaker 2: It gets very meta.
Speaker 1: They keep chasing each other and then it gets to
Speaker 1: a point where not only can they control their minds
Speaker 1: but can also control what you see. So it felt
Speaker 1: like Inception style whenever all the buildings turn on their
Speaker 1: se So it really didn't really know what it wanted
Speaker 1: to be. And I think that's really where it lost me.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like Robert Rodriguez wanted to make
Speaker 1: Inception without creativity. Yeah, it was like Inception, but at
Speaker 1: Dollar Tree he basically said, we have Inception at home
Speaker 1: when he made this movie. So, and the thing is,
Speaker 1: it is kind of an interesting premise when you think
Speaker 1: about it, but it's an example of a great premise
Speaker 1: ruined by poor filmmaking.
Speaker 3: But we got to get back to the plot. Okay,
Speaker 3: we get back to the rest of the spoilers. It
Speaker 3: turns out that so he's like getting closer to remembering
Speaker 3: what happened to his daughter that day. Then we discover
Speaker 3: he like hacks the system. We discover he's a hypnotic,
Speaker 3: and that the tarot card reader was who he thought
Speaker 3: his wife was, and that their daughter is this top
Speaker 3: secret project called Domino because she's the child of two
Speaker 3: powerful hypnotics, so she's the most powerful. But the reason
Speaker 3: his wife looked different is because they were in all
Speaker 3: these scenarios, and they were running these scenarios to try
Speaker 3: to get him to say where he had what he
Speaker 3: had done with their.
Speaker 1: Daughter worried hidden her re aah.
Speaker 3: So then turns out we find out where she's hidden,
Speaker 3: there's a shootout, and then all the hypnotics lived happily
Speaker 3: ever after. Basically the movie, did I miss anything?
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much it. Okay, he just yeah,
Speaker 1: he discovers that he's a powerful hypnotic and did this
Speaker 1: whole thing to trick himself. So it was kind of
Speaker 1: like you put something in such a good hiding place
Speaker 1: that you yourself forget where it's hidden. And I did that.
Speaker 3: One time where were we were on a trip somewhere
Speaker 3: and I had had a couple of margaritas the night before,
Speaker 3: and I woke up the next morning and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, where's my engagement ring?
Speaker 3: And you were like, did you lose it? And it
Speaker 3: was like in like the most safe place. It was
Speaker 3: like in a jewelry box, like where I would put
Speaker 3: something in the safe place, but I just like forgot
Speaker 3: that I had putten it in the safe place.
Speaker 1: So you discovered that. They were, like you said, running
Speaker 1: all these scenarios and where I felt like maybe it
Speaker 1: was genius or maybe it was like genius on accident,
Speaker 1: is that while I was watching the movie, I said,
Speaker 1: I was very aware that I was watching a movie
Speaker 1: and it felt very orchestrated, and it had a bunch
Speaker 1: of cheesy cop lines. I think at one point his
Speaker 1: partner said something like, sounds like something my ex wife
Speaker 1: would say, one of the most cheesiest lines you could say.
Speaker 1: It felt very eighties to me. Everything from whenever they
Speaker 1: went into hiding they were wearing like ball cabs and sunglasses,
Speaker 1: like every cliche in any kind of action movie was
Speaker 1: in this movie.
Speaker 3: And then it turns out because it was. It was
Speaker 3: the simulation, the simulation inside of a movie.
Speaker 1: So then you see them reenact everything that you saw
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the movie, except the set wasn't there.
Speaker 1: It was just them in like prop cars, them on
Speaker 1: like exoskeletons of sets, going through all the same motions,
Speaker 1: like in a golf car instead of a car. So
Speaker 1: I was like, were they trying the whole time to
Speaker 1: make it seem like a cheesy movie, because in turn,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. It was just the big
Speaker 1: fake production.
Speaker 2: It was to the stay still.
Speaker 3: Like the last episode of The Hills when they get
Speaker 3: out of the car on the set and you're just like,
Speaker 3: I just spent the last like five years as a
Speaker 3: teenager being lied to. That was more shocking though. Honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're like, I didn't watch The Hills.
Speaker 1: I did not watch The Hills. I was surprised Ben
Speaker 1: Affleck was even in this movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't surprised. Have you seen Geelie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is now his lowest grossing movie. It
Speaker 1: even surpasses Gly. The movie cost sixty five million dollars
Speaker 1: to make. At the time of recording, this only made
Speaker 1: less than three million dollars.
Speaker 2: That is embarrassing.
Speaker 3: How do you even have you done an episode about that?
Speaker 3: I think you have about like how do you recoup that?
Speaker 3: Like that's like sixty two down the drain?
Speaker 2: Like what do you can.
Speaker 1: Get a tax? Right off? I almost feel like this
Speaker 1: movie was made.
Speaker 2: It hurts my brain.
Speaker 3: That hurts my brain more than the movie hurts my
Speaker 3: brain is trying to figure out why you would even
Speaker 3: make a movie like this.
Speaker 2: Also, what did they spend sixty five million dollars on?
Speaker 2: In this movie? It literally looked like a budget production.
Speaker 1: It did. There was even one scene where they exploded
Speaker 1: a car and I could tell that it was a
Speaker 1: small set car, like a toy car, and just zoomed
Speaker 1: in really well and then they did the explosion. I
Speaker 1: was very aware of that.
Speaker 3: How did they spend I would like to see their expidence.
Speaker 3: I want to see their expense reports. I want to
Speaker 3: see their budget.
Speaker 1: They didn't spend it on They didn't spend it on promotion,
Speaker 1: which is usually a good chunk of a movie's budget. Well,
Speaker 1: they pay Ben for this, probably twenty million. I would
Speaker 1: love to do an interview with Oe because like a
Speaker 1: really raw, real interview and ask, at what point do
Speaker 1: you know that your movie isn't going well? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like since they didn't spend a lot of money
Speaker 1: promoting this movie, they knew it wasn't a great movie.
Speaker 2: Have you ever made a movie and then like shelved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the background movie that was supposed to come out
Speaker 1: on HBO Max pretty recently, they made the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is made, and it okay, won't go
Speaker 1: up on HBO because without it going up, they can
Speaker 1: get it as a tax right off. If they were
Speaker 1: to put it out and it didn't do so well
Speaker 1: and people hated it. It would essentially hurt the DC
Speaker 1: brand even more. Is trying to recover right now.
Speaker 3: I feel like there was another one years ago where
Speaker 3: there was like a scandal involving the main actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happened in history, where something happens and movies
Speaker 1: don't come out. I think, yeah, I did an episode
Speaker 1: on movies that never saw the light of day, or.
Speaker 3: They like recast really quickly that movie years ago that
Speaker 3: was about like the Getty family. Oh yeah, Kevin Spacey
Speaker 3: was supposed to be in it, and they like recast
Speaker 3: his part really quick and like refilmed all of those scenes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there was any real controversy around
Speaker 1: this movie. It was just it made a bad movie.
Speaker 1: They were parts of it that were still a little
Speaker 1: bit fun. It was just the only parts that were
Speaker 1: of any worth or any value was after the twist happened.
Speaker 2: For me, there were shocking number of people in the
Speaker 2: theater though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a pretty full theater.
Speaker 3: It was a smaller theater, but like fairly full, and
Speaker 3: a surprising number of people seeing that, Like I think
Speaker 3: that was the whole audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's everyone that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone in the country was in that theater.
Speaker 2: That was the that was the only screening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen somebody fall asleep and snore that
Speaker 1: heard in a movie.
Speaker 3: I mean my dad has before, but it's like a
Speaker 3: very like slight snore and usually we like hit him
Speaker 3: a little bit. It was by himself and that lady did.
Speaker 3: We all laughed together at one point though, because he
Speaker 3: let out one snore that everyone in the theater was
Speaker 3: just like, yo, dude, it's a little loun I mean,
Speaker 3: I get it. It was cold in there. It was
Speaker 3: a Sunday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, one of those nice day
Speaker 3: for a nap.
Speaker 1: It was comfy in there. Yeah, So I would say
Speaker 1: that I don't think this will hurt ben Affleck in
Speaker 1: the long run. He has the flash coming out.
Speaker 3: I don't think at that point that like anything could
Speaker 3: really hurt your career. Like I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of A listers have their A list stutus cemented by
Speaker 3: this is just personal opinion by a movie they've done
Speaker 3: in the past, and they can do things that like
Speaker 3: won't really hurt them. Like I love Nicole Kidman, love her.
Speaker 3: She's done some flops. Yeah, but like no one is
Speaker 3: like Nicole Kidman is a flop actor. She is still
Speaker 3: an A list household name and afflex. Adam Sandler's done
Speaker 3: some flops. I mean Jack and Jill. Not a flop
Speaker 3: according to your mom, she loves it, but a flop. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: he's still popular. Like, I don't think a couple of
Speaker 3: flops really hurt an a lister.
Speaker 1: I think it was just the fact that it came
Speaker 1: right after Air, which was so good. He was really
Speaker 1: good in it, both acting and directing, and then he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in The Flash. It was just odd timing
Speaker 1: for this movie to come out. So I feel like,
Speaker 1: for me, he's reached a level of me just expecting
Speaker 1: more from him. So I thought, if he's in this movie,
Speaker 1: it has to be at least halfway decent, and the
Speaker 1: fact that it wasn't at all was surprising. I feel
Speaker 1: like Ben Affleck just had like a free maybe like weekend,
Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, I'll do this movie.
Speaker 2: And I was like, sure, why not?
Speaker 1: But anyway, that is our views on Hypnotic. A rare
Speaker 1: case of it was unreviewable in a normal sense.
Speaker 2: It did not hypnotize me. I was not hypnotized.
Speaker 1: It's not. But oddly I've been more bored in other
Speaker 1: movies than this one. I was just so aware of
Speaker 1: the badness. It was almost to a point where it
Speaker 1: was so bad it was entertaining.
Speaker 2: Thankfully was short.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ninety minutes. If it was any longer, probably
Speaker 1: would have walked.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't feel like we needed if it had
Speaker 3: been any longer, I don't know what they would have added.
Speaker 2: They wrapped it up. We got that.
Speaker 1: We got it, like.
Speaker 2: The sending action, the climax of it, the conclusion.
Speaker 1: I think that is a saving great face to some
Speaker 1: movies if you can. If you're gonna make a bad movie,
Speaker 1: don't make a bad long movie, yeah, because then you'll
Speaker 1: really anger some people.
Speaker 3: So is that three hour scorsesey one coming out supposed
Speaker 3: to be any good?
Speaker 1: It looks good. Okay, it's a long movie.
Speaker 3: I mean that's longer than Avatar. Yeah, and I struggled
Speaker 3: to make it through Avatar. It's more of just mentally
Speaker 3: preparing yourself for a movie that long.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like a movie that long at home, where I
Speaker 3: can like pause and stretch my legs, get a snack,
Speaker 3: without missing anything.
Speaker 1: And one you don't have to think about how many
Speaker 1: liquids you consume before going to see the movie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm just dooming no matter what.
Speaker 3: Like if I don't have a large diet pepsi through
Speaker 3: the whole film, I can't enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Honestly, peeing in a movie isn't that big of adace.
Speaker 1: You don't really miss a whole lot.
Speaker 2: In the movie.
Speaker 1: The looks clarifying being in the theater. Nobody really cares.
Speaker 1: It's dark, no one sees anything. It's just that vicious
Speaker 1: sound of water hitting carpet. Alright, alright, this review is gone.
Speaker 1: There's no carpet on the stairs. Are you peeing on
Speaker 1: the stairs in the movie theater? Yeah? Exactly, it's not
Speaker 1: walking on the way down there.
Speaker 2: Okay, this review is gone downhill.
Speaker 1: But that has been our spoiler review of Hypnotic. A
Speaker 1: rare case that I say, don't go see it in theaters,
Speaker 1: don't stream it. All you had to do was listen
Speaker 1: to this review. Anything else that we missed about that.
Speaker 3: It kind of makes me think of like when Tenant
Speaker 3: was trying to be like all.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, mind Bendy.
Speaker 1: Trying to do too much be too into perspective.
Speaker 2: But it was not mind bendy.
Speaker 1: It was not. Anytime a movie is described as being
Speaker 1: mind bending, it's not going to be mind bending terrible.
Speaker 1: But until next time, go out and watch good movies
Speaker 1: unlike this, so not this one, and until next time,
Speaker 1: I will talk to you later