WEBVTT - SPOILER REVIEW! Hypnotic - Recapping Ben Affleck’s Biggest Bomb

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<v Speaker 1>We are back with another spoiler review. Only listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode if you don't mind having a movie completely

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<v Speaker 1>ruined for you, or in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to save your money and just have

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<v Speaker 2>us tell you what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you really don't need to see this movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>is called Hypnotic. It stars Ben Affleck, directed by Robert Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 1>and right off the bat, I kind of knew this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna be the best movie.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw no press for it there that existed. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it in the regal app Like I mean, at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, we just like to go see a movie

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<v Speaker 3>every weekend. It's it's nice to go sit in a dark,

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<v Speaker 3>cool theater for two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the regal pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I knew it existed because I like Robert Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 1>and I like Ben Affleck. It just felt weird that

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<v Speaker 1>this movie was coming out and there was really nothing

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding it, no big press release. You know. I really

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<v Speaker 1>had to even search to find the trailers of this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we saw it and I discovered why there

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<v Speaker 3>was nothing around this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So what this movie is about is Ben Affleck plays

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<v Speaker 1>this detective and he trying to find out the details

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<v Speaker 1>about his missing daughter, and that's where it starts. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's investigating this bank rubbery.

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<v Speaker 3>It was supposed to be set in Austin. It looked

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like downtown Austin. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 3>like the Sepia tone film they used, oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>it looked like a deserted like like cowboy western film,

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<v Speaker 3>with like the dust everywhere. And I'm like, Austin does

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<v Speaker 3>not look like that, Like Elpaso doesn't even look like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a big part of this movie I believe was

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<v Speaker 1>filmed almost entirely on a set chucks out because Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Driguez has his own production company in his own sets.

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<v Speaker 1>So this movie very much felt like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>enclosed in a situation instead of like in a real city.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I also picked up on the color scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of this movie, and it just felt the way I

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<v Speaker 1>describe it is it feels very much like a movie movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything just felt like it was okay, here, this actor

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna say this, We're gonna get this camera movement.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of felt like a college student film level quality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because like some if you're watching a really good movie,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like a real story or like something that

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine happening. But this like felt it was

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<v Speaker 3>a movie for nothing other than pure entertainment. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know that that I was that entertained because

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<v Speaker 3>I was so confused, and I was distracted by the

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<v Speaker 3>man snoring in front of us. When we say snoring,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not just talking like you're run of the mill,

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<v Speaker 3>like little nap time to the point where a woman

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<v Speaker 3>two seats down went to try to wake him up.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was about maybe he's thirty forty minutes into

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<v Speaker 1>the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also in our seats.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever we do, so where this movie went off

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<v Speaker 1>the rails. It starts out with him trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>out about his missing daughter, and then you learn about

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<v Speaker 1>this bad guy who is manipulating people through hypnosis to

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<v Speaker 1>get them to perform crimes. So Ben Affleck is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to stop him. He goes and takes a tip from this.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets more and more crazy as I talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, he takes this tip and goes to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Bank where somebody has said there's about to be a robbery.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is watching it, and then he breaks into

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<v Speaker 1>the bank to try to.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop the discover weird things are happening because like this

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<v Speaker 3>guy that they're looking at like hypnotizes this woman and

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<v Speaker 3>she walks out into the street and like causes an

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<v Speaker 3>accident and a distraction, and then the bank heist happens,

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<v Speaker 3>and he like chases this guy, and then he sees

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<v Speaker 3>more people getting hypnotized and doing weird things.

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<v Speaker 1>And ben Affleck goes into the safety deposit box and

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<v Speaker 1>takes a picture that turns out to be a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of his daughter, and he's like, why is this in here?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the bad guys get away, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>They track down the phone call to like a tarot

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<v Speaker 3>card reader, and he goes to her shop.

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<v Speaker 1>And she tells him about this bad guy who is

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<v Speaker 1>like the most powerful hypnotic who is able to turn

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<v Speaker 1>people into his minions basically.

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<v Speaker 3>But is it then that we learned that ben Affleck

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<v Speaker 3>has some mind power, a wall in his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That he can't he can't be controlled.

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<v Speaker 3>Which can I just go ahead and spoil it? Turns

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<v Speaker 3>out because he's a hypnotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Done done done.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes on a very long and windy road to

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<v Speaker 1>get there.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets very meta.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep chasing each other and then it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where not only can they control their minds

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<v Speaker 1>but can also control what you see. So it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Inception style whenever all the buildings turn on their

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<v Speaker 1>se So it really didn't really know what it wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I think that's really where it lost me.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of felt like Robert Rodriguez wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>Inception without creativity. Yeah, it was like Inception, but at

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar Tree he basically said, we have Inception at home

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<v Speaker 1>when he made this movie. So, and the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>it is kind of an interesting premise when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but it's an example of a great premise

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<v Speaker 1>ruined by poor filmmaking.

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<v Speaker 3>But we got to get back to the plot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we get back to the rest of the spoilers. It

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<v Speaker 3>turns out that so he's like getting closer to remembering

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to his daughter that day. Then we discover

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<v Speaker 3>he like hacks the system. We discover he's a hypnotic,

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<v Speaker 3>and that the tarot card reader was who he thought

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<v Speaker 3>his wife was, and that their daughter is this top

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<v Speaker 3>secret project called Domino because she's the child of two

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<v Speaker 3>powerful hypnotics, so she's the most powerful. But the reason

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<v Speaker 3>his wife looked different is because they were in all

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<v Speaker 3>these scenarios, and they were running these scenarios to try

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<v Speaker 3>to get him to say where he had what he

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<v Speaker 3>had done with their.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter worried hidden her re aah.

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<v Speaker 3>So then turns out we find out where she's hidden,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a shootout, and then all the hypnotics lived happily

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<v Speaker 3>ever after. Basically the movie, did I miss anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty much it. Okay, he just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he discovers that he's a powerful hypnotic and did this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing to trick himself. So it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like you put something in such a good hiding place

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<v Speaker 1>that you yourself forget where it's hidden. And I did that.

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<v Speaker 3>One time where were we were on a trip somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>and I had had a couple of margaritas the night before,

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<v Speaker 3>and I woke up the next morning and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, where's my engagement ring?

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<v Speaker 3>And you were like, did you lose it? And it

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<v Speaker 3>was like in like the most safe place. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like in a jewelry box, like where I would put

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<v Speaker 3>something in the safe place, but I just like forgot

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<v Speaker 3>that I had putten it in the safe place.

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<v Speaker 1>So you discovered that. They were, like you said, running

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<v Speaker 1>all these scenarios and where I felt like maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was genius or maybe it was like genius on accident,

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<v Speaker 1>is that while I was watching the movie, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very aware that I was watching a movie

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt very orchestrated, and it had a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of cheesy cop lines. I think at one point his

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<v Speaker 1>partner said something like, sounds like something my ex wife

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<v Speaker 1>would say, one of the most cheesiest lines you could say.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt very eighties to me. Everything from whenever they

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<v Speaker 1>went into hiding they were wearing like ball cabs and sunglasses,

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<v Speaker 1>like every cliche in any kind of action movie was

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it turns out because it was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the simulation, the simulation inside of a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you see them reenact everything that you saw

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of the movie, except the set wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just them in like prop cars, them on

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<v Speaker 1>like exoskeletons of sets, going through all the same motions,

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<v Speaker 1>like in a golf car instead of a car. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, were they trying the whole time to

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<v Speaker 1>make it seem like a cheesy movie, because in turn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what it was. It was just the big

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<v Speaker 1>fake production.

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<v Speaker 2>It was to the stay still.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the last episode of The Hills when they get

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<v Speaker 3>out of the car on the set and you're just like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just spent the last like five years as a

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<v Speaker 3>teenager being lied to. That was more shocking though. Honestly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're like, I didn't watch The Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not watch The Hills. I was surprised Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Affleck was even in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wasn't surprised. Have you seen Geelie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well this is now his lowest grossing movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>even surpasses Gly. The movie cost sixty five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to make. At the time of recording, this only made

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<v Speaker 1>less than three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you even have you done an episode about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have about like how do you recoup that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's like sixty two down the drain?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a tax? Right off? I almost feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>movie was made.

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<v Speaker 2>It hurts my brain.

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<v Speaker 3>That hurts my brain more than the movie hurts my

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<v Speaker 3>brain is trying to figure out why you would even

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<v Speaker 3>make a movie like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, what did they spend sixty five million dollars on?

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<v Speaker 2>In this movie? It literally looked like a budget production.

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<v Speaker 1>It did. There was even one scene where they exploded

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<v Speaker 1>a car and I could tell that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>small set car, like a toy car, and just zoomed

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<v Speaker 1>in really well and then they did the explosion. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very aware of that.

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<v Speaker 3>How did they spend I would like to see their expidence.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see their expense reports. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see their budget.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't spend it on They didn't spend it on promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>which is usually a good chunk of a movie's budget. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they pay Ben for this, probably twenty million. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to do an interview with Oe because like a

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<v Speaker 1>really raw, real interview and ask, at what point do

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<v Speaker 1>you know that your movie isn't going well? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like since they didn't spend a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>promoting this movie, they knew it wasn't a great movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever made a movie and then like shelved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the background movie that was supposed to come out

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<v Speaker 1>on HBO Max pretty recently, they made the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is made, and it okay, won't go

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<v Speaker 1>up on HBO because without it going up, they can

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<v Speaker 1>get it as a tax right off. If they were

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<v Speaker 1>to put it out and it didn't do so well

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<v Speaker 1>and people hated it. It would essentially hurt the DC

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<v Speaker 1>brand even more. Is trying to recover right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there was another one years ago where

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<v Speaker 3>there was like a scandal involving the main actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's happened in history, where something happens and movies

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<v Speaker 1>don't come out. I think, yeah, I did an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on movies that never saw the light of day, or.

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<v Speaker 3>They like recast really quickly that movie years ago that

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<v Speaker 3>was about like the Getty family. Oh yeah, Kevin Spacey

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be in it, and they like recast

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<v Speaker 3>his part really quick and like refilmed all of those scenes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like there was any real controversy around

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. It was just it made a bad movie.

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<v Speaker 1>They were parts of it that were still a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit fun. It was just the only parts that were

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<v Speaker 1>of any worth or any value was after the twist happened.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, there were shocking number of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>theater though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a pretty full theater.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a smaller theater, but like fairly full, and

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<v Speaker 3>a surprising number of people seeing that, Like I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was the whole audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's everyone that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone in the country was in that theater.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the that was the only screening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never seen somebody fall asleep and snore that

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<v Speaker 1>heard in a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean my dad has before, but it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>very like slight snore and usually we like hit him

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. It was by himself and that lady did.

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<v Speaker 3>We all laughed together at one point though, because he

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<v Speaker 3>let out one snore that everyone in the theater was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, yo, dude, it's a little loun I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. It was cold in there. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a Sunday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, one of those nice day

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<v Speaker 3>for a nap.

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<v Speaker 1>It was comfy in there. Yeah, So I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think this will hurt ben Affleck in

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<v Speaker 1>the long run. He has the flash coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think at that point that like anything could

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<v Speaker 3>really hurt your career. Like I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of A listers have their A list stutus cemented by

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<v Speaker 3>this is just personal opinion by a movie they've done

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, and they can do things that like

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<v Speaker 3>won't really hurt them. Like I love Nicole Kidman, love her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's done some flops. Yeah, but like no one is

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<v Speaker 3>like Nicole Kidman is a flop actor. She is still

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<v Speaker 3>an A list household name and afflex. Adam Sandler's done

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<v Speaker 3>some flops. I mean Jack and Jill. Not a flop

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<v Speaker 3>according to your mom, she loves it, but a flop. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 3>he's still popular. Like, I don't think a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>flops really hurt an a lister.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just the fact that it came

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<v Speaker 1>right after Air, which was so good. He was really

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<v Speaker 1>good in it, both acting and directing, and then he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in The Flash. It was just odd timing

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<v Speaker 1>for this movie to come out. So I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, he's reached a level of me just expecting

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<v Speaker 1>more from him. So I thought, if he's in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be at least halfway decent, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it wasn't at all was surprising. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben Affleck just had like a free maybe like weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, yeah, I'll do this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, sure, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that is our views on Hypnotic. A rare

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<v Speaker 1>case of it was unreviewable in a normal sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It did not hypnotize me. I was not hypnotized.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. But oddly I've been more bored in other

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<v Speaker 1>movies than this one. I was just so aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the badness. It was almost to a point where it

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad it was entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankfully was short.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, ninety minutes. If it was any longer, probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have walked.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I didn't feel like we needed if it had

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<v Speaker 3>been any longer, I don't know what they would have added.

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<v Speaker 2>They wrapped it up. We got that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The sending action, the climax of it, the conclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is a saving great face to some

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<v Speaker 1>movies if you can. If you're gonna make a bad movie,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make a bad long movie, yeah, because then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>really anger some people.

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<v Speaker 3>So is that three hour scorsesey one coming out supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be any good?

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<v Speaker 1>It looks good. Okay, it's a long movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's longer than Avatar. Yeah, and I struggled

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<v Speaker 3>to make it through Avatar. It's more of just mentally

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<v Speaker 3>preparing yourself for a movie that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I like a movie that long at home, where I

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<v Speaker 3>can like pause and stretch my legs, get a snack,

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<v Speaker 3>without missing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And one you don't have to think about how many

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<v Speaker 1>liquids you consume before going to see the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm just dooming no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I don't have a large diet pepsi through

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<v Speaker 3>the whole film, I can't enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, peeing in a movie isn't that big of adace.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really miss a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>In the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>The looks clarifying being in the theater. Nobody really cares.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dark, no one sees anything. It's just that vicious

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<v Speaker 1>sound of water hitting carpet. Alright, alright, this review is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no carpet on the stairs. Are you peeing on

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs in the movie theater? Yeah? Exactly, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>walking on the way down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this review is gone downhill.

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<v Speaker 1>But that has been our spoiler review of Hypnotic. A

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<v Speaker 1>rare case that I say, don't go see it in theaters,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stream it. All you had to do was listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this review. Anything else that we missed about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of makes me think of like when Tenant

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to be like all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, mind Bendy.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to do too much be too into perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was not mind bendy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not. Anytime a movie is described as being

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<v Speaker 1>mind bending, it's not going to be mind bending terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But until next time, go out and watch good movies

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<v Speaker 1>unlike this, so not this one, and until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk to you later