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Speaker 1: We are back with another spoiler review. Only listen to

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Speaker 1: this episode if you don't mind having a movie completely

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Speaker 1: ruined for you, or in this case.

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Speaker 2: If you want to save your money and just have

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Speaker 2: us tell you what happens.

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Speaker 1: Because you really don't need to see this movie. It

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Speaker 1: is called Hypnotic. It stars Ben Affleck, directed by Robert Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: and right off the bat, I kind of knew this

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the best movie.

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Speaker 3: We saw no press for it there that existed. I

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Speaker 3: saw it in the regal app Like I mean, at

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Speaker 3: this point, we just like to go see a movie

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Speaker 3: every weekend. It's it's nice to go sit in a dark,

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Speaker 2: We have the regal pass.

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Speaker 1: Like I knew it existed because I like Robert Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: and I like Ben Affleck. It just felt weird that

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Speaker 1: this movie was coming out and there was really nothing

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Speaker 1: had to even search to find the trailers of this movie.

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Speaker 3: And then we saw it and I discovered why there

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Speaker 3: was nothing around this movie.

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Speaker 1: So what this movie is about is Ben Affleck plays

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Speaker 1: this detective and he trying to find out the details

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Speaker 1: about his missing daughter, and that's where it starts. So

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Speaker 3: It was supposed to be set in Austin. It looked

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Speaker 3: nothing like downtown Austin. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 3: like the Sepia tone film they used, oh yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it looked like a deserted like like cowboy western film,

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Speaker 3: not look like that, Like Elpaso doesn't even look like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, a big part of this movie I believe was

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Speaker 1: filmed almost entirely on a set chucks out because Robert

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Speaker 1: Driguez has his own production company in his own sets.

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Speaker 1: So this movie very much felt like it was just

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I also picked up on the color scheme

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Speaker 1: Everything just felt like it was okay, here, this actor

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Speaker 1: It kind of felt like a college student film level quality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because like some if you're watching a really good movie,

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Speaker 3: it feels like a real story or like something that

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Speaker 3: I was so confused, and I was distracted by the

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Speaker 3: man snoring in front of us. When we say snoring,

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Speaker 3: I'm not just talking like you're run of the mill,

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Speaker 1: And this was about maybe he's thirty forty minutes into

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Speaker 2: He was also in our seats.

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Speaker 1: But whatever we do, so where this movie went off

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Speaker 1: this bad guy who is manipulating people through hypnosis to

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Speaker 1: And he is watching it, and then he breaks into

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Speaker 3: Stop the discover weird things are happening because like this

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Speaker 3: guy that they're looking at like hypnotizes this woman and

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Speaker 1: And she tells him about this bad guy who is

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Speaker 3: But is it then that we learned that ben Affleck

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Speaker 3: Which can I just go ahead and spoil it? Turns

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Speaker 2: Done done done.

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Speaker 1: It goes on a very long and windy road to

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Speaker 2: It gets very meta.

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Speaker 1: They keep chasing each other and then it gets to

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Speaker 1: It kind of felt like Robert Rodriguez wanted to make

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Speaker 3: But we got to get back to the plot. Okay,

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Speaker 3: turns out that so he's like getting closer to remembering

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Speaker 3: powerful hypnotics, so she's the most powerful. But the reason

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Speaker 3: So then turns out we find out where she's hidden,

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Speaker 3: ever after. Basically the movie, did I miss anything?

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much it. Okay, he just yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you discovered that. They were, like you said, running

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Speaker 1: and it felt very orchestrated, and it had a bunch

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Speaker 1: It felt very eighties to me. Everything from whenever they

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Speaker 1: like every cliche in any kind of action movie was

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Speaker 3: And then it turns out because it was. It was

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Speaker 1: So then you see them reenact everything that you saw

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. It was just the big

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Speaker 2: It was to the stay still.

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Speaker 3: Like the last episode of The Hills when they get

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Speaker 3: I just spent the last like five years as a

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Speaker 3: so you're like, I didn't watch The Hills.

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Speaker 1: I did not watch The Hills. I was surprised Ben

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't surprised. Have you seen Geelie?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is now his lowest grossing movie. It

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Speaker 1: even surpasses Gly. The movie cost sixty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: to make. At the time of recording, this only made

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Speaker 1: less than three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: How do you even have you done an episode about that?

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Speaker 3: I think you have about like how do you recoup that?

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Speaker 3: Like that's like sixty two down the drain?

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Speaker 1: Get a tax? Right off? I almost feel like this

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Speaker 2: It hurts my brain.

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Speaker 3: That hurts my brain more than the movie hurts my

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Speaker 2: Also, what did they spend sixty five million dollars on?

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Speaker 2: In this movie? It literally looked like a budget production.

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Speaker 1: It did. There was even one scene where they exploded

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Speaker 3: How did they spend I would like to see their expidence.

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Speaker 1: They didn't spend it on They didn't spend it on promotion,

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Speaker 1: which is usually a good chunk of a movie's budget. Well,

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Speaker 1: they pay Ben for this, probably twenty million. I would

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Speaker 1: love to do an interview with Oe because like a

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Speaker 1: feel like since they didn't spend a lot of money

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Speaker 2: Have you ever made a movie and then like shelved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the background movie that was supposed to come out

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Speaker 1: on HBO Max pretty recently, they made the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: get it as a tax right off. If they were

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Speaker 1: and people hated it. It would essentially hurt the DC

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Speaker 3: I feel like there was another one years ago where

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Speaker 3: there was like a scandal involving the main actor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happened in history, where something happens and movies

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Speaker 3: They like recast really quickly that movie years ago that

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Speaker 3: was about like the Getty family. Oh yeah, Kevin Spacey

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like there was any real controversy around

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Speaker 1: They were parts of it that were still a little

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Speaker 2: For me, there were shocking number of people in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a pretty full theater.

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Speaker 3: It was a smaller theater, but like fairly full, and

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Speaker 3: a surprising number of people seeing that, Like I think

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Speaker 3: that was the whole audience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's everyone that was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone in the country was in that theater.

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Speaker 2: That was the that was the only screening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen somebody fall asleep and snore that

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Speaker 3: I mean my dad has before, but it's like a

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Speaker 3: very like slight snore and usually we like hit him

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Speaker 3: a little bit. It was by himself and that lady did.

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Speaker 3: We all laughed together at one point though, because he

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Speaker 3: just like, yo, dude, it's a little loun I mean,

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Speaker 3: I get it. It was cold in there. It was

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Speaker 1: It was comfy in there. Yeah, So I would say

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Speaker 1: that I don't think this will hurt ben Affleck in

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Speaker 3: I don't think at that point that like anything could

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Speaker 3: this is just personal opinion by a movie they've done

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Speaker 3: She's done some flops. Yeah, but like no one is

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Speaker 3: like Nicole Kidman is a flop actor. She is still

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Speaker 3: an A list household name and afflex. Adam Sandler's done

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Speaker 3: some flops. I mean Jack and Jill. Not a flop

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Speaker 3: he's still popular. Like, I don't think a couple of

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Speaker 1: I think it was just the fact that it came

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Speaker 1: gonna be in The Flash. It was just odd timing

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Speaker 1: fact that it wasn't at all was surprising. I feel

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Speaker 2: And I was like, sure, why not?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, that is our views on Hypnotic. A rare

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Speaker 1: case of it was unreviewable in a normal sense.

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Speaker 2: It did not hypnotize me. I was not hypnotized.

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Speaker 1: It's not. But oddly I've been more bored in other

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Speaker 2: Thankfully was short.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ninety minutes. If it was any longer, probably

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Speaker 2: Out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't feel like we needed if it had

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Speaker 3: been any longer, I don't know what they would have added.

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Speaker 2: They wrapped it up. We got that.

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Speaker 1: We got it, like.

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Speaker 2: The sending action, the climax of it, the conclusion.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a saving great face to some

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Speaker 1: movies if you can. If you're gonna make a bad movie,

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Speaker 1: don't make a bad long movie, yeah, because then you'll

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Speaker 3: So is that three hour scorsesey one coming out supposed

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Speaker 3: to be any good?

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Speaker 1: It looks good. Okay, it's a long movie.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's longer than Avatar. Yeah, and I struggled

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Speaker 3: to make it through Avatar. It's more of just mentally

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like a movie that long at home, where I

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Speaker 1: And one you don't have to think about how many

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm just dooming no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Like if I don't have a large diet pepsi through

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Speaker 3: the whole film, I can't enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, peeing in a movie isn't that big of adace.

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Speaker 1: You don't really miss a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: In the movie.

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Speaker 1: The looks clarifying being in the theater. Nobody really cares.

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Speaker 1: It's dark, no one sees anything. It's just that vicious

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Speaker 1: sound of water hitting carpet. Alright, alright, this review is gone.

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Speaker 1: There's no carpet on the stairs. Are you peeing on

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Speaker 1: the stairs in the movie theater? Yeah? Exactly, it's not

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Speaker 2: Okay, this review is gone downhill.

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Speaker 1: But that has been our spoiler review of Hypnotic. A

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Speaker 1: rare case that I say, don't go see it in theaters,

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Speaker 1: don't stream it. All you had to do was listen

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Speaker 1: to this review. Anything else that we missed about that.

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Speaker 3: It kind of makes me think of like when Tenant

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Speaker 3: was trying to be like all.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, mind Bendy.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do too much be too into perspective.

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Speaker 2: But it was not mind bendy.

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Speaker 1: It was not. Anytime a movie is described as being

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Speaker 1: mind bending, it's not going to be mind bending terrible.

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Speaker 1: But until next time, go out and watch good movies

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Speaker 1: unlike this, so not this one, and until next time,

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you later