WEBVTT - 2016 NFL Draft Pressure Points

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Podcast Isn't flawed enough for Chris Wesley? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dad Hanzas and I am joined by

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<v Speaker 1>room Feld with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg

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<v Speaker 1>ros Ital. What's up? Boys? He is that tripping in?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Wes? That we're not flawed enough for

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<v Speaker 1>you people? People confuse my stance on this issue quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. It's a very hardline stance. Flawed humans have

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<v Speaker 1>been through the ringer and have had to check themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Look in the mirror, changes, show rey, more, show contrition,

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<v Speaker 1>realize there's more to life. Broken human beings are not

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<v Speaker 1>to be trifled with. You don't mess with him because

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<v Speaker 1>they just go around hurting people. They're irredeemable. Help me

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<v Speaker 1>well to clarify for anyone you know, listening for the

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<v Speaker 1>first or tenth time, you prefer a woman that has

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<v Speaker 1>some flaws. No one said you were looking for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that we weren't broken enough for you. We just weren't

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<v Speaker 1>flawed enough for you because we're Because I think what

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying is, as a podcast, were perfect, you want

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<v Speaker 1>something a little less perfect. I I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the podcast is flawed and recognizes its flaws. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the podcast is so weird. It's in a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot, weird wormhole right off the top. So if we,

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<v Speaker 1>if we were a woman, you would go out with us?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'd wine and dine us that that's sexy

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't too much whining and dining. Um. West

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<v Speaker 1>expects the women to come straight to him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to try to impress them with fancy meals.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's worked at on an I'm willing to once

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<v Speaker 1>they show that they're worth it. But I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in l A, in this dating pool, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to weed out the really shallow women and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first date dive bar, let's see if you're willing to

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<v Speaker 1>get down with the people. That was West's dating podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>now available on iTunes. Uh. This is the Wednesday edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Around the NFL podcast, sponsored by No One

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<v Speaker 1>Still waiting anybody out there, Dick Sporting Goods, We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>in our product, they're out, They're not wrong, but it

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<v Speaker 1>will also think you're great white whale. Yeah, definitely. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll also take high end sponsorships where some of the

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<v Speaker 1>financial funding, not just funnel doesn't go straight to rock,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to the talent involved. Uh Nike, h Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>micro Soft, and UM. Throwing out the guys, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean if Damna check has McDonald's, how about we go

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<v Speaker 1>Burger King. I don't believe in their product at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would take their money. Okay, yeah, or Burger

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<v Speaker 1>King terrible product. Okay, we kind about it. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna gonna get a sponsorship. When you're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I don't I don't believe. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the transaction, not what they're doing. Today's show, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get into a little draft talk. The

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<v Speaker 1>draft is coming up, guys. I believe it is a

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<v Speaker 1>week from two weeks from Thursday. That that is absolutely correct. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's coming up, and so we should. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>checking in here and there in the last month or

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<v Speaker 1>so with the help of some experts UH in and

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<v Speaker 1>around the building of NFL Media. We are lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have a lot of people under this roof that

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're talking about when it comes to college

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<v Speaker 1>and UH and in the in the podcast studio today,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have Michael Burger, we just call him Burger. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the producer um a great program Greg called Path

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<v Speaker 1>to the Draft that's on Monday through Friday at what

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<v Speaker 1>time it is at three o'clock Pacific, six o'clock Eastern daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jeremiah our our friend who wants to move the

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<v Speaker 1>Sticks podcast. This has really moved the Sticks season right

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<v Speaker 1>now draft season. But he's the star, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>of the Path to the Bucky Brooks in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no offense to Bucky, but you know DJ gets more

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<v Speaker 1>screen time and DJ carries himself in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you on the campus here at NFL medi, if

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<v Speaker 1>you notice there's a little air about him ever since

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<v Speaker 1>he was offered jobs to run the front office in

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa and uh Philadelphia. Yeah, so we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 1>segment We're gonna call draft trigger points with Burger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we won't even get into what that means. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was pressure point. Yeah, it is pressure points.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen draft. It's too late now. I feel like pressure

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<v Speaker 1>points is pressure points. You like the alliteration, yeah, plus

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<v Speaker 1>trigger I had some bad connotations gun triggers and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the PC pod with Greg Lately. It's not PC.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I like the sound pressure still recovering

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<v Speaker 1>from you throw me under the bus of that Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>pop music. Yeah, that was I spoke too soon. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually asked my wife, Emmaica if she had heard of

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<v Speaker 1>I think this song was didn't know that, didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>the song. But when I gave her, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the artist, she had heard of her. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wouldn't say she was a fan, but we found

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<v Speaker 1>out she has four million Twitter followers, so she has

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of fans. What is her equivalent in American music?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't ask that question based on the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of Twitter followers and just listening to it, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a Selena Gomez type maybe signed me up followers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking of like a young sort of

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<v Speaker 1>airy pop star. So she's got like three followers more

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<v Speaker 1>than Greg. Wait that almost I'll take that as a compliment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good buddy. All right, and we're also gonna do some news.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we do that, let's go behind the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Say hie to the irishman. What's up, buddy? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great, I'm doing great. Brandon was on our

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<v Speaker 1>softball team. Uh season kicks off uh tomorrow Thursday, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody looked good in our first practice was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we looked pretty good. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of imfield practicing. We came out to the field starting

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<v Speaker 1>to take batting practice. Little kids from Culver City started

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<v Speaker 1>to swarm the area and just took over everything. We

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get much accomplished, little monsters, kids wanting to play

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<v Speaker 1>games on the field. Monsters, little little news. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We start on the throne of sleeves. Pretty cruesome stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah this is wait a minute, Oh there is nobody

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<v Speaker 1>left the New England Paige. Sure it's used. They first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick on Dominique easily in two thousand and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh easily did show some uh some ability flashed

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<v Speaker 1>ability over his first two seasons, missed games with injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>You expected him to be a big part of their

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<v Speaker 1>rotation in two thousand sixteen, but then the news this

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<v Speaker 1>drop shortly before we came upstairs. A big surprise Easily

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<v Speaker 1>was released by the New England Patriots, is reported by

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<v Speaker 1>a rap sheet on Wednesday. Um Comcast Sports Net New

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<v Speaker 1>England first reported the news. Tommy Kerr and Tommy and Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same Dominique Easily who had towards a

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<v Speaker 1>c on Baltany's in college and ended his season with

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<v Speaker 1>a knee injury towards quad in two thousand fifteen. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this cannot just be an injury thing, right, Mark Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the timing of it. I mean, right the

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<v Speaker 1>minute this happened, four thousand beat writers in Unison. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there must be something else going on here. Wait I

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<v Speaker 1>beat all those beat writers to that tape, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>than four thousand beat writers. So basically West said it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone else copied West. That's Chamber, What about you, Greg?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. West said, as we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it before the podcast. You don't just cut guys

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<v Speaker 1>in April for perform for injury related reasons. He tore

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<v Speaker 1>his quad, but we knew that months ago. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick only entering the third year of a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty cheap contract cap issues is not. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>they're accelerating their cap hit in the short term by

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<v Speaker 1>cutting him. So it's curious, and it's especially curious because

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<v Speaker 1>he played so well last year. UH Pro Football Focus

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<v Speaker 1>noted per snap only J. J. Watt was more productive

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<v Speaker 1>as a pass rusher according to their metric, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>no one's saying he's the second. According to the game

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<v Speaker 1>film I watched, he was easily the patriots most effective

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<v Speaker 1>interior rushan, certainly their best interior Russian, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>their best defensive players per snap. And that per snap

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<v Speaker 1>is key because he only's you know, he's missed half

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<v Speaker 1>the game's almost in his career. He only played two

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<v Speaker 1>five snaps. He tores a c L twice in college,

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<v Speaker 1>both knees, so he's had injuries going on forever. Tom Currn,

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<v Speaker 1>who broke the story at an update after we came

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<v Speaker 1>up here, that he that story by the way, when

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<v Speaker 1>you went curd or whatever, like Tommy Tommy Tommy Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Curran is the best best guy out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>country we got it. We gotta philosophical difference differences on

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<v Speaker 1>following injury programs, etcetera. That was he said, that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So that was my first inclination. Whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>hear the Patriots surprisingly cut someone, isn't it because they

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<v Speaker 1>won't get with the program in some kind of way,

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<v Speaker 1>either they want too much money, they're not about the team,

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<v Speaker 1>or in this case, he's probably not following the regimen

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<v Speaker 1>laid out by the Patriots. Man also, could have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shown some personality, you know, been an actual human being.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things can happen on Patriot way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that I can only imagine how how the that Throne

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<v Speaker 1>of Ease music would would sound if the Patriots had

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<v Speaker 1>only one what how many playoff games in the last

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years. This is this is where I know it's working.

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<v Speaker 1>When he gets all upset, I mean, they've they trade

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<v Speaker 1>away Chandler Jones Suddenly. I wonder, if you're the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>if it if it forces you to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>draft a little differently to find people that can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the quarterback. Well, I would say defensive tackle was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge need for them even before this. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a huge need for them. That's why they've spent their

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<v Speaker 1>last two first round picks on defensive tackles. Dominic easily,

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Brown, and uh, it wouldn't surprise me if they

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<v Speaker 1>take a defensive tackle pretty high in the draft again,

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<v Speaker 1>because behind them, you really just have some some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get veterans. When you see that they signed pot

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<v Speaker 1>Rose night, and doesn't that immediately trigger that thought they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be showing more three four looks instead of four three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was there was a bunch of people weighing

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<v Speaker 1>and saying that too, that they it sounds like they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna shift over. Well, they're they're always gonna play both. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever works that year, So yeah, maybe this year their

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<v Speaker 1>roster will be set up that way. They tend to

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<v Speaker 1>not be like most teams. They're gonna play thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>one way, thirty or four to the other way. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mix it up. But the next best, really, their

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive tackle last year overall was probably Alan Branch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Branch had like an in in summer kind

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<v Speaker 1>of year, but it just shows you. I think Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>Brown has potential, but it was a position they absolutely needed,

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<v Speaker 1>so to cut him not getting with the injury philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>differences program. I mean that even but if he was

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<v Speaker 1>lazy and just didn't rehab and he has a torn quad,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I still think there's gonna be even

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<v Speaker 1>by the way the quad connects to the knee where

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<v Speaker 1>he's had major issues. In other Patriots news, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how they're backfield is gonna look because Legarre Blunt

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<v Speaker 1>was not attached to the team, but now he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been reattached to the team. That's one way to

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<v Speaker 1>stay things. Blunt. On Tuesday, we learned has signed a

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<v Speaker 1>one year deal with the Patriots worth up to two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Bert Breer of NFL Media added that the

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<v Speaker 1>deal UH seven sixty K and bass salary UH up

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<v Speaker 1>to him one million in incentives. Later. Pats later confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>the signing UH. Blunt miss most of or the back

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<v Speaker 1>end of last season with a chip bone and his

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<v Speaker 1>hip rap sheet reports or no surgery for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he should be ready for O. T A. S. Gregor.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you happy to have Lagarrett blood back in your backfield? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Can't hurt. He's good, He's been good for them,

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<v Speaker 1>good clubhouse guy, good for parties, Well, unless you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers, right, No, I'm saying that's I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>great for parties if you want to drive around before

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<v Speaker 1>a game. Rue. This signing really shakes my confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's Patriots analysis. Why because I asked him a month

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<v Speaker 1>ago when when Blunt was sitting out there and the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots had no backfield, Surely the Patriots are just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bring Blunt back on the chief. Greg said, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they've watched him. I am surprised that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bother to bring him back. And it did take him

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months of Clearly, if any team in

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<v Speaker 1>the league valued la Garrett Blunt, he would be playing.

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<v Speaker 1>We can have another visit. I don't think he did.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he has a he has a fairly limited value.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's just if you're gonna have four running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>can he be one of them? He feels a role

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody else in that roster can fill right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need to draft a running back or two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like they have in the past where they drafted too.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, it wouldn't you know, what are they

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<v Speaker 1>get a hundred thousand dollars signing bonus As a Patriots fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not mind one million in incentives to I

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<v Speaker 1>would not mind one bit if La Garan but doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the team. That means they're if they were, what

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<v Speaker 1>if they were, Like listen, Gary Blunt and Gary Blunt

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<v Speaker 1>and Easily you just can't have them in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room together. So we just we just got Gary Blunt back.

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<v Speaker 1>Easily is out. But brother Nick will be happy to

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<v Speaker 1>know you're bringing Gary back. Did that for for your

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<v Speaker 1>brother Nick? There's not enough Garies in the world anymore. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Gary Blunt Blunt joins a running back group that

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<v Speaker 1>includes Dion Lewis who's coming back from a tourn A

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<v Speaker 1>c L James White, Donald Brown, Brandon Bolden, and Joey

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible. It's probably right. I say that almost with

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<v Speaker 1>respect to the Patriots, that the other teams would be

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<v Speaker 1>screwed with that lineup, but they'll be Dan Lewis if

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back in full health. I mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>if they had a better backfield, they might have won

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl last year. I mean, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>was a big factor in them not winning a super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl that was out there to be one. When injuries though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Lewis had been healthy, that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a completely different When's the last time you saw

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<v Speaker 1>a backfield as in the playoffs as poor as the

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<v Speaker 1>one the Patriots rolled out Stephen Jackson walking like two

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<v Speaker 1>skyscrapers through the field. About the Steelers the year before

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<v Speaker 1>when they didn't have Bellah. I mean, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about let's take away the number one and two

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<v Speaker 1>running back, Yeah, it's gonna be a better But you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a guy Dan Lewis who was just a

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the dark, who started training camp fifth in

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<v Speaker 1>the depth chart, that had injury problems. So look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better to have guys with some pedigree without all those

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<v Speaker 1>injury problems. Obviously. Uh. Josh Gordon missed all of last

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<v Speaker 1>season suspended after failing an alcohol test. Had not been

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<v Speaker 1>really reinstated yet, and you started to wonder why hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, And we got some light, uh shine on

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<v Speaker 1>that situation. On Monday or Tuesday, I should say, rap

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<v Speaker 1>sheet reported that Gordon failed another drug test last month. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The test showed traces of marijuana and UM dilute, which

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<v Speaker 1>could be used to mask substances. UH. As a result

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<v Speaker 1>of this test. Gordon his application for reinstatement has been

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<v Speaker 1>denied until August. One. Leak spokesman told Rap Report he

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<v Speaker 1>can reapply after that date. So there is good news.

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<v Speaker 1>There's bad news obviously that it doesn't it doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 1>that Gordon still doesn't have his head on straight. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news, I guess if you're a Browns fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly Josh Gordon, is that he is still has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance that appears to play this upcoming season, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a by the time August first comes around.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to have everything together and not give them

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<v Speaker 1>another reason. Mark Yeah, I mean from a from another angle,

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<v Speaker 1>I think anyone still having any hopes tied to Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon needs to check themselves at the door because even

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<v Speaker 1>if he were to pass this next thing by August first,

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<v Speaker 1>he just sits out. There's and if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build a team as an absolute hazard, because at any moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like he's gonna get banged with another suspension.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years in a row. He did. Now when he played,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed two games and still led the league in receiving,

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's tantalizing. That was also in two thousand thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you hold that hope for him. You know what, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I am annoyed that that that his lack of accountability

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<v Speaker 1>is annoying to me. And the fact that the drug,

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<v Speaker 1>these players with this trauma are attached to it, to

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns because really they're trying hard to move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just the same way that people feel.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an entitlement complex to manziel I see it with

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon too, because he's tweeting out guys, come on, not

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<v Speaker 1>a real story, and in videos of him working out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you you have a deluded test and you've you've failed

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<v Speaker 1>multiple test, so it is a real story, and you

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<v Speaker 1>showed no ability to get healthy and get back into football.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not marijuana should be a banned substances a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different subject. I think we're gonna look back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and wonder how these careers were ruined by marijuana.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, but on the other hand, you mentioned accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>He's letting down teammates, he's letting down the front office,

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<v Speaker 1>he's letting down the coaching staff. And frankly, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>No one told you you have a right to make

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars playing kids. And how crazy is it

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<v Speaker 1>that this guy under this microscope, uh seemingly could not

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<v Speaker 1>avoid smoking weed or whatever is going out with Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Manzel and what's happening here where he in his mind thought,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of keeping my nose clean, I'm gonna actually try

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, I'm gonna still have fun and try

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with it. It just shows, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have good common sense and it's killing the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's ruining his career. It's insane how long

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<v Speaker 1>he has not played for by now, and yet he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the team and the Browns don't like being attached

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<v Speaker 1>to him. While they could, they could cut him if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. That's allowed. I'm not saying they don't. They could.

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<v Speaker 1>He shows, ultimately what matters in the NFL, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been chosen by the Browns by four different regimes, two

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<v Speaker 1>different ownership groups, that he's more he was more valuable

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<v Speaker 1>than Homegren and then Ray Farmer, and then Michael Lombardi

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<v Speaker 1>and pet and in all those coaches, He's kept his

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<v Speaker 1>job this entire time, while all of those guys have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten fired. So Gordon to the Browns as an organization

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<v Speaker 1>has been deemed more important. They they lead the league

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<v Speaker 1>and ghosts. Aren't they still paying Rob Chazinsky right there?

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<v Speaker 1>They probably are still paying Romeo Crenic. I mean Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Chazinski inherited Josh Gordon even he didn't draft it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really crazy. But I mean for a team

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<v Speaker 1>with zero playmakers, now I get it early zero, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not sitting around, they're not they have But

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and you're saying, don't have hope? They have

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<v Speaker 1>hope or else he wouldn't be on the team, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And you have hope as

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<v Speaker 1>a face in because you're saying that, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's very expensive number one right, And secondly, he's his

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<v Speaker 1>contract tolls. There's no reason to just release him right now. Necessarily, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a reason if if he doesn't really if

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<v Speaker 1>you're rebooting the machine again. But well, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh start, and this guy keeps on getting busted

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<v Speaker 1>and it's attaching your franchise to his name. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>what's mark a guy going somewhere else and thrives, going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Steelers and leading the NFL until three days

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<v Speaker 1>ago the thought, probably with this new group of people,

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<v Speaker 1>was he could be back very soon, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>he could be back in August. First. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be suspended another year, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>would cut him. I tend to agree they might as

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<v Speaker 1>well keep him in. The August first thing really surprised me.

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<v Speaker 1>It showed some lead leniency and flexibility from the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not just not just banished for another year.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily we shouldn't. We shouldn't assume a ruling will come

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<v Speaker 1>down in August first. It could, it could come down

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<v Speaker 1>in October. And we especially shouldn't assume that he passes

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<v Speaker 1>whatever test is in the meantime, because history would tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a betting man, that he fails tests. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he does, so he will fail more tests. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't agree more. I think that he should probably that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's up there and with with Manzel

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<v Speaker 1>and anyone else. In terms of we may never see

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<v Speaker 1>him play again, the desire does not seem to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, Eddie Lacy, running back for the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>um out of shape for most of the last year

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<v Speaker 1>and got a ton of criticism both from UH, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL world, the media, and even then his own head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>After the season ended, UM has appeared to turn the

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<v Speaker 1>corner in terms of conditioning. Bert Breer reported UH this

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<v Speaker 1>week that uh Lacey has undergone a transformation, calling it

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<v Speaker 1>quote remarkable, a red redistribution of weight from his midsection

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<v Speaker 1>to his shoulders and arms. Here's a bird set on

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<v Speaker 1>NFL HQ on NFL Network. I know the people around

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Lacey. He really feel like the Packers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy with what they see when Lacey reports

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<v Speaker 1>of the off season program next week. Uh So, Chris Westling,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a narrative? This would have been good for

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<v Speaker 1>by by Seller? Hold Eddie Lacey has lost the weight

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<v Speaker 1>in his back to being Eddie Lacy. You believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>every ounce of it. No pun intended, but yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course I believe it. I've seen Eddie Lacey play when

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<v Speaker 1>he's in shape, and he's one of the best running

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<v Speaker 1>backs in the league. And Mike McCarthy said in February,

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<v Speaker 1>I have complete faith that Eddie Lacy learned a lesson

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<v Speaker 1>that he knows he can't make defenders miss or shake

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<v Speaker 1>nagging injuries playing thirty pounds overweight. Uh, he said, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be confident in April we're gonna see a different guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and even more in July, when it really matters, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a totally different guy. He's on that path.

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<v Speaker 1>He's putting in the work. Mark's favorite player now. He said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's so he's done P ninety X, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you do, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what happens before and after photos of P ninety X,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he went through the program, it is it's excellent. Four.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see exactly what he's describing that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is down in your belly area and it melts

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<v Speaker 1>off and it puts it up into where it's useful,

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<v Speaker 1>up in your shoulders and norms. It's not to get

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<v Speaker 1>some type of like sponsorship yourself. I am. I am

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<v Speaker 1>keeping experience before or after Josh Gordon led the league

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<v Speaker 1>in receiving What do you what are you saying? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like you have this fond memory of nine

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, no, I did it? What did it? When

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<v Speaker 1>my first son, Luke was born in two thousand ten,

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and like around I did P sixty because I got

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty days in and then then it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>but I restarted it, and I think that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a complete cross fit training. It's great

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>for lazy, he's he's a perfect candidate. Yeah, and I

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>buy it because by the time he's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>back with the team and then he'll be on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I buy it long term. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's one of those things that I buy Eddie

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Lacey in two thousand and sixteen. Now, if you're a

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>fantasy guy and you're drafted him in two thousand seventeen eighteen, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it shock me if he's go was with

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<v Speaker 1>his weight again or motivation. Usually those players tend to

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<v Speaker 1>go up and down throughout their career. But I would

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>bet big on it, like a big Eddie Lacy there

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Totally agree with everything you said that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on, let's talk a little. Odell Beckham Jr. Former

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<v Speaker 1>resident of Chris Westling's Table of Boys. He had his

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<v Speaker 1>own suite, but you know what, he moved out of

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the Stable of Boys. I don't even know if he

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<v Speaker 1>gave you notice west because now he's living he got

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>kicked out because now he's living with a Toronto based

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 1>hip hop star named Drake. Yeah, it's April in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna talk about this, Odell Beckham Jr. Told

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<v Speaker 1>Rhonda Rousey of noted television station news gathering source Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Kings TV. That's my guy right there, Beckham stead of Drake,

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's mindset is the same as yours, and they

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<v Speaker 1>want nothing but success. They want to be the best.

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<v Speaker 1>We just click on a of like that. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how terrible the conversations, private conversations between these two

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>guys are all they did. They're talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta shut out all the haters and be be

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<v Speaker 1>the best. And you know, we're so blessed and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we love we love being the best. We're number one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out, I'm at what what what is it with?

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<v Speaker 1>We're asking these multimillionaires over and over in the past

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, who are you living with? And all

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>these like dudes are living together all over the place.

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what happened to just I'm rich, I bought

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a house, have a nice time. Great. It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the video popped up in social media

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week of of O. D. B and a

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<v Speaker 1>dance party with a bunch of men. Uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there was a photo shoot of O. D. B with

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<v Speaker 1>some patriots because Stephen Ridley is selling a line of

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>clothing and they're all around this like pool, and the

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<v Speaker 1>pool has statues of women that are thinking mermaids with bikini's.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what's going on at Drake's.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't disagree more. I want to hear the conca

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<v Speaker 1>I want a reality show Drake's Backyard. Who wouldn't watch that? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I would not because I have enough Odell beckhaman Brake's Backyard? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what like like Drake's an idiot. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who has come up with a pretty outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>multimedia career. He's made the transition no one expect. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing pretty well. He's pretty successful. Maybe maybe ODIEB

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<v Speaker 1>can learn what's your point of I'm not taking shots

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<v Speaker 1>like Drake is like a hip hop talent. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>just you wouldn't want to hear their conversation. They would

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<v Speaker 1>be insufferable together. Drake is talented and Odell Beckham is

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<v Speaker 1>telling it. I don't need to sit them and hear them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe for a second that Greg would listen

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<v Speaker 1>to their conversation. I would want many episodes of this

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>year olds. Do you listen to their conversation? I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show. It would be I mean, granted, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be kind of waiting to see what ridiculousness pops up,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>But your your dvring this and going through you've been

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that's the thing. You guys would watch it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have TV. I think I would certainly check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the the idea that it would have been sufferable,

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations, it would be a hate watch for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be part of it. Uh, Shaws of Sunset

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<v Speaker 1>might be something i'd watch before. The joy in O

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<v Speaker 1>d B's dancing cannot be underestimated. And uh, he's got that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I was that happy doing anything, as happy

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>as od B is when he's danced. Irishman said he

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<v Speaker 1>has a question, guys, I just want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>TV show would you rather watch? Jake or Drake, Not

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<v Speaker 1>Jake and O d B. Or Johnny Menzel and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon as roommies, well the other one. The second show

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>would quickly rule Gordon out of any sort of return

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to the unfl So I don't want to say that

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds depressed Menzel Gordon sounds more like depressing going down

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>today's episode because TMZ article it just came out that

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Menzel was in a hit and run accident in Hollywood,

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Josh Gordon picked up on on the sunset

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>strip and then they had a circle back to the

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>accident because they left the scene of it. What's going

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>on here? It does sound like a reality show because

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we're getting an episode every two or three days. Brandon,

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather watch Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith debate

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>whether the the Warriors should push Kobe Bryant's game off

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>ESPN to ESPN two. That's that's crazy, um all right?

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And finally, uh J J. Watt and we were playing

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that game yesterday or on our previous show by seller

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>hold on offseason narratives, and you know, I found it

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 1>suspicious that a new J. J. Watt stories popping up

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>every week, like almost like every Wednesday morning, Like, oh,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>what's there's a publicist to play here? J J. Watt

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, I think you know my

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>feelings about the gentleman talented ballplayer. But uh, this week

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>J J. Watt appeared in a snapchat with Kate Hutson,

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<v Speaker 1>the actress um really a strange snapchat uh video with Hudson,

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and then that sparked, Oh J J. Watt is he taken?

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And then he tweets out. He tweets out a reply

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<v Speaker 1>to a fan who asked what how he went from

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>quote single to dating two different blonds in twenty four hours?

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Replying to that bro, he write, he writes, that's l

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a hashtag single, get bro, get out of here? Bro?

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that l A wes get out of the dating

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>world in a work? Wouldn't work if you were a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, potentially a generation generational type defensive talent with

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars and you know, multiple homes and all

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>sorts of cash. Would it work for you that way? Then?

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And a sculpted six ft six pound body? Yeah? I

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>get what is this? This this coupling though, what you

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>were saying in terms of wanting to be in the news,

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that is a perfect pairing. Kate Hudson, she if I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing when I was doing my Hollywood um Analytics

0:28:56.240 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>blog website, she would lead the league in most magazine

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>covers to lowest box office over the last five years.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she has stayed remarkably on top of things

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and relevant with absolutely no movies or hits or anything.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And she does it with stuff like going out with J. J.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Watt excellent announces what is J. J. Watt doing in

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>l A? Is he supposed to be like his pottery

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>bar in log cabin in Wisconsin. Yeah, with like thirty

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>seven bunk beds in there. A lot of these guys

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>do train on here. I mean, Greg I will point

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<v Speaker 1>out that once I don't know how old she is,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you hit a certain age in Hollywood, it's

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to land heat seeking roles as a female. I think,

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you're you know, you're on an interesting side

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the debate there. That's absolutely fair, but

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood podcast that's absolutely fair. But I think Kate

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson had maxed out her her career as well as

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<v Speaker 1>he possibly could have, so I I think ashtag nepotism.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, being six ft five alone would get J. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Watt all the women in l A. Because I've never

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>seen so many women obsessed with men's height. But it's

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible to me I never It was never a

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<v Speaker 1>factor in any dealings I had with any woman in

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my life in any city until I moved to l A.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>And now it's like the number one qualification on their list.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Are you six foot three or above? Nopek on the

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>online site, we should ask that starts walking around and stilts.

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>We should ask our upcoming guest here, Michael Berger walk

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>into this studio he's lived in l A. Wow, not that.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you're in the nepotism comment on

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Kate hus I don't think that's fair. Now, did she

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>get into Hollywood that had helped her mother's Goldie Hawn?

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course, sure, But when she played Penny Lane in

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Almost Face, Yeah, that was that was She was captivating

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in that role and it launched her career, and I

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think fairly, and then she used up all that good

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>right to be fair, I'm not I don't really have

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>not been tracking Kate Hudson deeply enough, nor do I

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>care about her. The nepotism bomb. Yeah, well, if she

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>is the daughter of a extremely famous actress, that does

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>not hurt in Hollywood. Your sons will be their father

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>will be a famous NFL analyst that all over television

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and the silver screen possibly as well. Will you want

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>them to be judged just because of your success? Yes? Dan.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Before we move on from this, J Watt actually already

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>heard this and he has a response for you. What

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<v Speaker 1>all I know the problems, that's all I know. Whatever,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>bro come at me. Sitting to my left is Burger.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Burger is the producer. I have a first name for

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>crying out loud, do you Yeah? I thought it was

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like a Madonna type. We each have little names. Dan

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>likes to give us. I'm the boss and you can

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>just be Burger. Michael Burger is his god given name

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>or his parents at least um. He is the producer

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of Paths to the Draft, which airs Monday to Friday

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>on NFL Network at six eastern three Pacific. Welcome back

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Around the NFL podcast. But I thought we

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>were doing once every two years. Now it's once this

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>once every two months. I'm did you guys scheduling error?

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>What happened has progress? I'm not complaining, but it's a

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>compliment towards you know, your epic performance last time. Oh

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I thank you, Yes, we all remember it. There were

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>dozens of people told me, ye, Burger first off. Yes, Uh,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you you're a single man in Los Angeles, le's not married.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh have you found the same issues that Wes has

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that women are obsessed with height? Well, I will say,

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what did uh what did actel

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>fully say in Beverly Hills cop to six foot women

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>grow on trees in California? So there, I mean there

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.719
<v Speaker 1>is a there is a proliferation of of you know,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>height uh women, a lot of tall women. That's fair,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and tall women don't want to date. That's not who

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. I'm talking about women who won't date

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>men under six ft. It's quite quite a disparity. If

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's for as we're talking about twenty inches there, it's

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a disease out here. I don't know that's that's

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>but yes, I I wes. This point I think does

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>does have some merit. Thank you. You're you're happily coupled.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I am happily coupled. Yes, how tall's she's about five

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>six pretty pretty standard? Boom, Yeah there we go. Okay,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna talk draft of Burger in a couple

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of minutes, but before we do that, we do want

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to touch on and and Mark I'm surprised this was

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>your idea. You are not a fan of the NBA

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>during the regular season, but there is a regular season

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>game taking place tonight at Staples Center here in Los Angeles.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>It is the Kobe Bryant uh finale of his UM

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty season career. I believe you played for twenty years,

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>all with the l A Lakers and UM. So you

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>said this is what we should talk about. Mark, Well, okay,

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I'm not a Kobe fan, but

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I said it might not be a bad episode early

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on when it's April to maybe just all right? So

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what what Mark said? That wasn't quite the setup I

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>was looking for. But who is the NFL equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant, a player that was undeniably talented, tremendously successful,

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<v Speaker 1>but really viewed by many people as a villain or

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>someone that is hard to like. Who's the NFL guy

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>who makes you think that way? Now, hold on a second,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was from any sport, that's any any sports, alright,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>An is there an NFL guy? Though? I don't think

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there is an NFL guy because struggle NFL feels more.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>There's not a uniform of opinion about things like Michael

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Vick popped to my mind. But then again, Michael Vick's

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know when at the height of his U dog

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>fighting stuff. But then again, Michael Vick is one of

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the most popular players of his generation, so like Ben

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Roethlisberger for Browns fans certainly throughout the Midwest, but I

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he was universally reviled, not a lot

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of the only the only guy that popped in my head,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was I quickly sort of rebuffed. It was

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<v Speaker 1>t o just just just for just for the just

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of the just sheer in your face way that

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>he played and kind of as polarizing is good. That

0:34:58.080 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>was the only one I could think of in the NFL.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at a question of who do we love

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to hate, because that's a different question. Do you have

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a player that you like Ridgan, I'll admit that Peyton

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Manning for my career, I I did it, certainly. That's

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>my Patriot and Patriots fandom that the Patriots never really

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>had a rival other than Peyton Manning was arrival. Wasn't

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>really the Colts or the Broncos. It was Peyton Manning.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>That's where I would go with this anyway, and let

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>me unpack this for me. So to me, Kobe Bryant

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and Alex Rodriguez are inextricably that was mine. They came

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of age in the nineties when sports exploded financially an

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>image wise, and at eighteen nineteen years old in the

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>mid to late nineties, they are told by their handlers

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it's about image. You have to reject this image. And

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>neither of those athletes built a base of character. Like

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>if you read The Education of Alex Rodriguez by J. R.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Mooring U a great long form, there's no soul there,

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>there's no base of Alex Rodriguez has no personality, no character.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't feel like the opposite of that. No, I don't

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>think so. I think he was too busy, wrapped up

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to be Michael Jordan for years and trying to

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>protect this image. And I think Peyton Manning came of age,

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Hey Manning came of age in that era too, and

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he was all about spin controls, extremely about spin control

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>an image earlier in his career. And I don't think

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>he's a reviled star or anything, but but I see

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>those three guys as coming from that kind of deriving

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>from that era of professional sports exploding money wise, in

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>image wise. The interesting person to put in that category

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>as well, and I feel like they're all in that

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>same era is Jeter, who is for something you know,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in a in a in the polar opposite is just

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, revered by almost everybody who in baseball pop culture.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>A lot of has to do with what he did

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>off the field, you know, his exploits there as well.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But but it's an interesting sort of dichotomy when you

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>have an A Rod or a Kobe and then a

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>guy like who again, same era, same time. Yeah, I

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>always thought there was more substance to get Kobe. I

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>totally disagree. Kobe seems like a very smart individual. Uh.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He certainly has an interesting background, He has strong views

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>on things. He seems insanely calculating, doesn't seem very likable.

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>But that seems different to me than an a Rod

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and and maybe even a Jeter, which just seems kind

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of like a black hole. Like Kobe was like a

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>lot there there, you know, whereas Kobe, I think there's

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot there it just you just might not like it. No.

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I think early in his career he was like a

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>rod and that he had to take a poll before

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>he would say any statement. I I would go from

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the NFL angle big bend because I see that there

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was an off the field incident that almost caused the

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Steelers to think about parting ways with him. But we

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>also in a time where attention span is so brief

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that that's completely forgotten at this point and his career

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and who he is as a player has I respect

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 1>him now, so I don't hate. He also never really

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>captured the zeitgeist like the like a guy like Kobe

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>or I think Vic is a good guy to look

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 1>at in a lot of ways because he, like Kobe,

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>came in with a ton of hype. He was involved

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>with a draft day trade, He came into league then

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>lived up to the height, was a star that had

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>legal problems that changed the way people looked at him forever.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But as personalities, they seem like very different people. So

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that's where that kind of falls apart. But I think

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Kobe is kind of on some level to me one

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>of a kind. I mean that is Michael. I mean

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the other answer for me is Michael Jordan. I love

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to hate Michael Jordan's real I was surprised what I learned.

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the rest a lot of the country kind

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of jumped on and just became Bulls fans. I never

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>got to that point. I always hated him, always rooted again,

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>always root against because I was a Celtics fan. Not

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 1>that they were rivals, certainly not by the end of it,

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but at the beginning, just didn't And you just don't

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>like the guy that's on top of see for me,

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>because Michael Jordan came into bloom when I was in

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>around fifth grade, and I have like notebooks from that

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>time just filled of drawing Michael Jordan's pictures and I

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>fell in love with the NBA for a period of

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>time because of him. Even though I ended up being

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a Knicks fan, Jordan was fascinating to watch. I love

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the guy. I grew up in a city didn't have

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the NBA in Cincinnati, and to me, I always thought

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>anyone would suspect if they hated Jordan's really yeah, like,

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you because you don't like watching Michael

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Jordan play, Well, it's like that was beating right if

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you're from Boston, I get that, but in Cincinnati, like

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>how much of a contrarian are you trying to beat?

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Not like Michael Jordan. You would go up every year

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>we would drive up, drive up by sixty five and

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>go to I would see one Michael Jordan game a year.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't make sure it was on my my list

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to do with my parents. By the way, little in fact,

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>do you guys know what my middle name is? Jordan?

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It is Jordan's. I thought it might be Michael Michael

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Berger Michael Jordan's Burger. Wow, that's amazing. And you were

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>born obviously before Michael Jordan was named. Yeah, he was

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like eight years there was Yeah, so that I was

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not after ro that would be weak. Michael Jordan Burger,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>by the real quick have you have you? That's gonna

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>make a new podcast? Do you know what? Do you

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>know what? You know what? People that don't know what

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you look like? And why would they don't? You know?

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you don't. You don't look like Jordan's. I find

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>glasses alone and size well you can shooes who to

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>share it with. I find I find what usually when

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I travel, like when I go internationally and I get

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and I pull out my passport and everyone and it

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>takes them a second and it's always oh, Michael Jordans, Oh,

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and then it becomes a whole thing. I just your

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>hair is somewhat similar to we do have similar hairlines, yes,

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>or lack thereof in this case. But um wait, by

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the before real quick before us uh, we were talking

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>about in the newsroom more compelling game tonight Kobe or

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors game. Yeah, Larriors by far Kobe stopped being compelling,

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>and when he stopped being good. To know, a lot

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of people listen to this afterwards. But it just seems

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like that if you can great greatness and he's just

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>if you could choose to be a one game I

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>would probably choose Kobe because you know he's gonna jack

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>up forty shots and maybe he gets hot and you

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>see something crazy Golden State, it's gonna be up by

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty point to be like watching Peyton Manning in the

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Give me a break, I don't know. Alright,

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>So Burger, here we go, Here we go draft. Here's

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a seg uh called draft? Sure points with Burger. Now

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it's pressures on me, right, Yeah, so Michael Jordan Burger

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's never Maybe I should have kept that one

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Burger And yeah, we saw Burger in the lobby yesterday

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and he said, what are we gonna do? What are

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>we gonna talk about? We want to talk a little draft,

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and Burger, because he's an idea man, he said, well,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>there's certain parts of the draft. Why don't you explain it, producer. Yeah, no,

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I'm not gonna sit here in and

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>evaluate players. That's not certainly what I'm qualified to do.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that there are interesting, you know,

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>teams picking in certain spots of the draft that I

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>think will dictate certainly the first round, and how various

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>teams not only pick after them, but kind of just

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>change the complexion potentially of the first round. Um with uh,

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously it starts, I think with the Browns

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and two, assuming again no one trades up and Tennessee

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>holds onto the top spot. It starts with the Browns

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>at two, and there's some other interesting spots as we

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of moved down the first, right, So why don't

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we start with the Browns at two? Well? Look, I

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>mean for a lot of these teams, it comes down

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to will they are won't they draft a quarterback? And obviously, um,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, did the r G three signing take the

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Browns out of uh, the mindset of drafting a quarterback?

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Who knows is it went is it Golf? Do they

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like either one enough to sit it too and take

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback? The argument for the Browns is, on one hand,

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>shirt you need a franchise guy. Obviously you don't think

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh McCown or r G three, Uh is that guy?

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Moving forward? Having said that, we all know the Browns

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>need help at a lot of different places, on a

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of different levels of the field. So do they

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>trade back and try to get more picks and maybe

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>hope that a quarterback, if they like a quarterback is

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>there at six or seven? Do they think that Wentz,

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Golf and Lynch are maybe the same guy, and they

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>moved back even further to you know, and hope that

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he's there fifteen, middle of the first round, whatever it is.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>They could either take the best player on their board,

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack somebody like that,

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 1>and and certainly store up what was not a very

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>good defense last year. Um or they take a quarterback

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and that will have a major domino effect on what happens.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, Cowboys at four, the Niners at seven, even

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the Rams at fifteen, um, and I'll kind of start

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the ball rolling. I think in the first round a

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit, Mark, how would you feel if the Browns

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>did not come out of this draft with a quarterback?

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, the fant of me would be disappointed,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'd I'd be more interested to find out who

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>made that decision, because the sense that we're getting word

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know, Pet Hamilton's the offensive corner, really wants golf.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>But maybe Hugh Jackson does too, but maybe the front

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>office just wants to compile picks. Well, Cleveland's made a

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>cottage industry of trading down. You didn't get Julio Jones

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and you ended up getting Phil Taylor, who's not on

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the team anymore. How many times do this? I think

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta swing at a quarterback if Hugh Jackson loves

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>one of them, if they aren't sold on one, You're right,

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that glass half full is you could pick any position

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and it would be a position of need in Cleveland, right,

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>But I am not buying the idea. And look, it's

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>on our website that it's coming out in these couple

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of days, in the last few days that the Browns

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>are not in love necessarily with anyone to take at

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>number two, and so that they're more than willing they're

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to trade out. There's a lot of smoke that

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna trade out. You got the number two pick

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in the draft, and by all accounts, these two quarterbacks

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are worthy top ten quarterback picks. So it seems crazy

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>to me that they would not view either one of

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>those quarterbacks as a franchise quarterback. I don't care that

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>their number two or number eight either their franchise quarterbacks

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>or they're not. And if they if they deem one

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of those two guys, you have to take them. There's

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>no better way to change your team and take one

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>next year, just keeping just keep taking them. And and

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>don't you have to kind of with the new regime,

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>link yourself for better for worse, inextricably to somebody a

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>face the franchise and kind of just not Jeremy Tunsil,

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>who will play right tackle for three years, like Jeremy's

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 1>his cousin. It's you take one of these guys early,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you put you get him in the lineup, don't be

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>starting r G three deep into the seas and see

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>what he can do. If there's a lot of bad

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>juju around the guy, you're gonna have a top five

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>pick next year to probably get the best quarterback. Just

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>get the quarterback. That's what they gotta get the quarter

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.479
<v Speaker 1>You hit it and everything changes. You want to don't

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>get too smart, right, Um, all right, let's move on.

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so I think the Browns at two are interesting,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you go right down to the

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys at four. And this is kind of the million

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>dollar question pressure. Okay, go ahead, look creepy, but that's cool.

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a guy. Uh million dollar question in this draft

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>is will the Cowboys take a quarterback at four? Um?

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>They Now, it's really crazy they you know, whether you

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>believe Jerry Jones or not, you know a lot of

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the scuttle, but seems to be that they are really

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at either even if Whence or GoF is taken,

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it too that they are looking at the other one

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>potentially at four. Now, look, they say they have Tony

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Roma is their guy. He's gonna be there for the

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>next however many years he has left three, four or five,

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>who knows, maybe more. But they don't have that quarterback

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of the future, certainly, And if you know, we've been

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>saying all year on path of the draft. If you

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think one of these guys is that

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. We're guardless of whether you have your in

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Romo on your roster or not, you take a quarterback

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 1>at four. If not, you know, they probably go edge

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 1>rusher with a Joey Bosa, Miles Jack will still be there,

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe a deforced Buckner. But it's really that to me

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>is is the most interesting question of the first round

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>is what the Cowboys do it for and specifically will

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 1>they take a quarterback? And if your Dallas, you want

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to If you're it's like and you know, you get

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the draw four card and you blow the opponent up,

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like you want to be one of those twos. I

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know where that like the Packers and the cults

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>where you have a franchise quarterback for a decade plus

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>and then you just insert the next one without any

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>nonsense in between the And if there is a scenario

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>where the Cowboys have the choice of any quarterback on

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the board of that pick, I think they would live

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to regret the day. I don't know what's going on

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Tony Romo and his health of the stage people and

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>not forgotten by the way that I wrote this in

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a mail bag that we published yesterday. You know, he

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>has this classical thing that he got the Mumford and

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Son's surgery on, and now people have forgotten that he

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>has a back injury that can go on him at

0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>any time, and that could end his career too. So

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is two potentially career ending injuries that can pop up

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>at any time. You gotta get the next guy. Kellen

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Moore is not the next guy. The third You know

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>who the third quarterback on the roster is West. Yeah,

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a made up name. It's like Strongs

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>or something strong something like. It's like, he's not the guy.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they would make a huge mistakes. Couldn't

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>just a real human being who has achieved a lifelong

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>dream to make the NFL. The entire Showers family is

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>proud of Jamille. You're just mocking him. Alright, sorry, all right,

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>let's move down. I mean real quick. Couldn't they just

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>take a quarterback at the top of the second round.

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>This is a draft word. Supposedly that you know that

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that there will be three three quarterbacks maybe taken in

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the second round. I I. It's an interesting one for

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the Jones is too, because it's a definite Are we

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>still trying to win a super Bowl with Tony Romo?

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>You would think, yes, they they have not lost sight

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of that. Do we really have the patience to take

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback versus a guy like an addresser like Buckner

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>or Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe put him in the backfield and

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you just Jerry Jones gets excited about that and tries

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>to win the super Bowl. Right now, that seems more

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys. And you've got to think they're chopping

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>at the bit after what happened last year, just a

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>lost season, completely lost that they just well they don't

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>want to you know, they are going all in. You

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>would think this year and drafting a quarterback for a

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>long term play doesn't necessarily fit, you know what they

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know the money isn't crazy at the top anymore,

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's still a lot of money. If you take

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback four and you have Tony Romo as the top,

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, top paid quarterback in the league, just about

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. It's got to be voices in the

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>buildings saying no, no, no, no, we need we need

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>something else. But to West's point, couldn't you take a

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the second round if they want to go

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher or defensive tackle in the you know, if

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that need for them this draft that this is by

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>far the strength of the draft is defensive ends and

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle. So they if they think there's that much

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>difference between Wentz and Golf there when Dallas picks that's

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>my prediction. Yeah, and they may they may not be.

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's gonna be it'll be interesting. But that

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to me, that's that's that's a really interesting part of

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the draft. Give us another pressure point. Um, I mean,

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I think you gotta go down. I'm just gonna crawl

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>into the table here. Uh, Niners at seven because again

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.479
<v Speaker 1>it's will it will one of those quarterbacks still be there?

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And if uh, if they are, do they take one?

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, they have a lot of needs obviously up

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>front at the offensive line, linebackers, and they're not gonna

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>take a linebacker at seven, certainly you wouldn't think. But um,

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you know they've well that's seven eight, that's yeah the

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagle or yeah, the Niners at seven and the Eagles

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>at eight. You know you're round in the corner. If

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles are doing something strange. I mean, we talked

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>about this a little bit, just that that they're really

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, working out every they're working out whence

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I believe today Wednesday, as we're taping this, they're working

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>out all the guys. They're in all these like I

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>don't really buy I don't quite buy that, but I

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>think I think if you're really interested in one of

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>those two guys, it's hard to imagine really any scenario

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they get past seven eight. Yeah, and and they all

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 1>we know they also someone will trade to Philadelphia at

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a I think, to take the second guy if they're

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>not off the board. They also love Ezekiel Elliott. I

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 1>mean that's something that's been connected to them for a

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 1>long time, and that's you know, we saw Todd Gurley

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>go on the top ten last year. By all accounts,

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>ezekiellett Is is kind of, you know, a very similar

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>different styles, but as well, there's whisper similar talents. Yeah,

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>there's whispers of Philly going up to number two to

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>take get there. So the Dallas Camp forty niners seem

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and I would throw the Rams in this and maybe

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>they're a pressure at fifteen, Tould put them, I sound

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 1>as creepy as Greg creep it's a it's a common

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a nice combination of creepy. Uh. I would think

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that they're about as likely as anyone to make a

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>big time trade, because desperation equals trades, and the Rams,

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 1>especially at fifteen. Can't you just see them knowing that

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher is the first coach since Dave Shula to

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.280
<v Speaker 1>make it to a fifth season without a winning record

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>in less sneed has never had a winning record, and

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>they're moving to l A and you just need a

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>face of the franchise, and they just give up their pick,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>They give up next year's first who knows you're throwing

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael Brocker's or something, and you move up wherever you

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>need to move Fisher and here the opposite r G

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>three they do, and then seeing them as their starting quarterbacks, thill,

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher has never been condescendingly padded on the head

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>by one of his players while giving him a lecture.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Remember that, Yes, that is not a guy to ever

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>be connected to historically on any level. Dave. Al Right, Burger,

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>let's hear about another team under well, I think Uh,

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 1>the Bears at eleven are interesting because again if if

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, let's say the Browns don't take a quarterback,

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's say the Cowboys don't take a quarterback. Okay, and

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>let's say for all tends purposes, the Niners take offer

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.839
<v Speaker 1>went at seven, the Eagles go offensive line, let's say,

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 1>which is a big need for them at eight. Then

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bears at eleven. You know, some team either is

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna want that last quarterback, that second quarterback to you know,

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 1>and worried that maybe the Rams taking a fifteen or

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>do the Bears who don't really have quarterback in the

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>future behind Jay Culor, who I believe is entering the

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>last year of his contract. Is that correct? Someone check

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>me on that. It might be the last year of guaranteed. Yeah,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's what it is. But but either way, you

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.240
<v Speaker 1>know that color is not exactly the most reliable option

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>at the position that we've seen in the last couple

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of years. And and maybe they take a quarterback at

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a level I mean, again, it's the first the first

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>half of the draft is where these first two quarterbacks

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.479
<v Speaker 1>end up, and that really will affect what so many

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>other teams. I'd be shocked if they got that far.

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>But New Orleans Ian Rappaport mentioned New Orleans as a

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>team that is major interest in a quarterback to right.

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's their their number, their number twelve. So no one,

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>none of these guys are getting that low. But if

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they do, that's it and that and that's where you

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>could see the movement again. If one of those guys

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is still on the table, do the Rams move up

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of spots? Do the Saints jump up a

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of spots? Do the Jets move from twenty? You know,

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 1>if they're not sold, if Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't done yet

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>there and they don't think Bryce Petty Orgino Smith is

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the answer, do they move up? There's a lot of

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>play that could happen. And then sort of middle ten picks.

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:58.919
<v Speaker 1>If one of those guys is still on the board,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>take Color wouldn't be on the airs if anyone had

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>taken him in a trade last year, right, Burger, give

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>us one more team that's feeling the well, I just

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you too quickly because they're both they're both

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>similar sort of dynamics. So in the at the end

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.320
<v Speaker 1>of the first round, you have the Texans at twenty

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>two and the Steelers at twenty five. What's interesting about

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>those two teams is if you look at the draft

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 1>orders starting at twenty two, you have the Texans at

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, the Vikings at twenty three, and the Bengals

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 1>at twenty four, all three of whom you could argue

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 1>their first biggest need is a wide receiver. So and

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you have, you know, these receivers. You you might not

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>see the first one taking, whether it's Lakwan Treadwell or

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Corey Coleman or Josh Dockson or whoever it is, that

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they may not be taken until right or you know,

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen nineteen somewhere in that back half of the

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>first round. So you could see a run on receivers there,

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe all all three of those teams Texans, Vikings, Bengals

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>taking receivers or if they're gone before the Bengals pick,

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>then the bank, you know, so you could see one

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of those teams kind of get shut out if there's

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 1>a little run on receivers there in that early twenties,

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and then at the Steelers want to get caught at

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of the run exactly exactly. It's like again

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>on the top of that. It's like a crappy Yeah,

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like a crappy closer run in a baseball Fantasy

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>baseball draft. You don't want. You don't want the J. J.

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Hoovers or any of those guys. Yeah. Anyways, the only

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>person in this room that knows who well, he's the

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.359
<v Speaker 1>close Come on, Yeah, that's my team, thank you. Uh.

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And then and then the Steelers at twenty five quickly

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Steelers twenty five, Seahawks at twenty six, Packers of twenty seven.

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>You could argue their biggest need each is a cornerback,

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of corners who we've seen mocked

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first round of William Jackson

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and Eli Apple already burns. Those guys. We gotta run.

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You could see very interesting kind of positional runs. Uh

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in the late mided late twenties. As we kind of

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 1>get through the first end, Steelers need to trade Big

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Bend to the Jets for Darrell Reavis. Do that a

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>second that both needs both teams needs. Well, Burger, you've

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 1>done it again, came on the show, and uh, you

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>shocked the world, knocked another and you now you know

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>my middle name. Yeah, what did we learn? Uh, Michael

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Jordan's burger. He has to do with that a lot

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's not always fun, but this is fun. Yeah,

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:05.840
<v Speaker 1>what do we already know? You are a former Wheel

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of Fortune contestants, that's right, championship not let's not sell

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a short here dating a woman that is somewhere between

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>five six seven. Yes, and very attractive woman, I should say, so,

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>good job there, burger um passionate Bengals fan. Yes, so

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you're a man that feels pressure. Are your team to

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>win in January? So there's a lot of stuff going on.

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 1>That workout last year, same way it always do. And

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you how to get that in there? Didn't That's but

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 1>not least he's the producer of path to the drafts today.

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Yea Eastern tune in. Uh, yeah, it's gonna we're what's

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>uh fifteen days out now until the two thousand six

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, so close Chicago. I know I will be

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>here sort of overseeing our studio coverage as we lead

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>up to uh the big day on and then the

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.720
<v Speaker 1>rest of the weekend. It's weird that path to the draft.

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not it makes sense, but there's path to the

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 1>draft after the draft too. Yeah, it should be path

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 1>from the draft at that point after the confusing. I

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.399
<v Speaker 1>think you gotta work on the branding a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see what I can do. It's just one preposition

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<v Speaker 1>change or just like it's a graphic or just like

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<v Speaker 1>the path to the draft is over the path to

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<v Speaker 1>the next year. I believe it's technically called the Those

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<v Speaker 1>are called the path to the draft recap shows. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is a little bit of you know, subtle, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still a tad Cumberson is that when DJ goes on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation for like nine months after that's after that week,

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<v Speaker 1>the week after the draft, we will not see Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also doesn't remind me of the other show

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<v Speaker 1>you produced around the NFL uh confusing that they also

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<v Speaker 1>name this podcast around the NFL. UH And and for

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<v Speaker 1>so long there was no link between the two programs

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<v Speaker 1>that we've made. Maybe that maybe that means you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to have me on more. That's all. Perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>glass you are the bridge between the two programs. UH

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you having me on. What's your Twitter handle again,

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<v Speaker 1>Mikey b TV. Mikey BTV, mikey b TV follow him?

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<v Speaker 1>He knows what he's talking about Mike Burger, Michael Jordan Burger.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get out of here, Greg, can I get

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<v Speaker 1>an update on the iTunes challenge? Of course, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>asking all of our listeners to leave five star reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, five star ratings and a nice or bad reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care about that, just to see if we

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<v Speaker 1>can goose Apple's rating system where we go has not

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<v Speaker 1>made much of an impact, but you we have left

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of comments, and that alone, uh is exciting

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<v Speaker 1>and important because I don't like to see you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look at how many people have left ratings for

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<v Speaker 1>different podcasts and you can say, okay, that that one's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than that one, and so a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been leaving the comments and that I appreciate. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's goosed up about a hundred since we asked.

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<v Speaker 1>There are five tweets on Twitter with the hashtag iTunes

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag iTunes challenge. You gotta sip spread the word fire.

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<v Speaker 1>We also need you know, I think even just as

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<v Speaker 1>important as that is telling your friends to go subscribe it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys like the NFL, Oh yeah, you like podcasts?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah? How about you try the around the NFL podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We got something. Go subscribe to that little word of

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<v Speaker 1>mouth because I think the new subscribers that's always big.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Tell a buddy phony front. Well, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back tomorrow very special around the NFL podcast schedule release day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, schedule dropping. So we'll have a full breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>all the schedule heat and that will be posted the

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<v Speaker 1>minute the schedule is out. So we we we work

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL, and we'll get it a little early.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be able to pre tape it until the second

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<v Speaker 1>that schedule releases on. You know, you you check it

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<v Speaker 1>out and you you listen to the podcast. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever listen to our podcast all the time? You do?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your favorite? Michael Jordan Burger? Who's my favorite person

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<v Speaker 1>on the show? And you can't go lindsay yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>probabably would say Colleen of the Core four could work.

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<v Speaker 1>We worked together. This Come on, this is not going

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<v Speaker 1>there's no it's gonna be offended. Lion Tale, don't lie.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's it, it's not Yeah, he's not a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get this? Yeah? That's it? Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>uh Yeah. We'll be back on Thursday with the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>released special until then this is Dan handsOn signing off

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<v Speaker 1>for Quiet Storm, the Mailman literally Michael Jordan and the boss,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the Irishman behind the glass. Till Thursday