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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dad Hanzas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Wes? That we're not flawed enough for

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a complete cross fit training. It's great

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Speaker 1: for lazy, he's he's a perfect candidate. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: buy it because by the time he's going to get

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Speaker 1: back with the team and then he'll be on the program.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy it long term. It's

428
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Speaker 1: like it's one of those things that I buy Eddie

429
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Speaker 1: Lacey in two thousand and sixteen. Now, if you're a

430
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Speaker 1: fantasy guy and you're drafted him in two thousand seventeen eighteen, Like,

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Speaker 1: what would it shock me if he's go was with

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Speaker 1: his weight again or motivation. Usually those players tend to

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Speaker 1: go up and down throughout their career. But I would

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Speaker 1: bet big on it, like a big Eddie Lacy there

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Speaker 1: this year. Totally agree with everything you said that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: moving on, let's talk a little. Odell Beckham Jr. Former

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Speaker 1: resident of Chris Westling's Table of Boys. He had his

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Speaker 1: own suite, but you know what, he moved out of

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Speaker 1: the Stable of Boys. I don't even know if he

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Speaker 1: gave you notice west because now he's living he got

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Speaker 1: kicked out because now he's living with a Toronto based

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Speaker 1: hip hop star named Drake. Yeah, it's April in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about this, Odell Beckham Jr. Told

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Speaker 1: Rhonda Rousey of noted television station news gathering source Draft

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Speaker 1: Kings TV. That's my guy right there, Beckham stead of Drake,

446
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: somebody who's mindset is the same as yours, and they

447
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Speaker 1: want nothing but success. They want to be the best.

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Speaker 1: We just click on a of like that. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine how terrible the conversations, private conversations between these two

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Speaker 1: guys are all they did. They're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta shut out all the haters and be be

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Speaker 1: the best. And you know, we're so blessed and you

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Speaker 1: know we love we love being the best. We're number one.

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Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm at what what what is it with?

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Speaker 1: We're asking these multimillionaires over and over in the past

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, who are you living with? And all

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Speaker 1: these like dudes are living together all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happened to just I'm rich, I bought

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Speaker 1: a house, have a nice time. Great. It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: And you know the video popped up in social media

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Speaker 1: earlier this week of of O. D. B and a

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Speaker 1: dance party with a bunch of men. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: there was a photo shoot of O. D. B with

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Speaker 1: some patriots because Stephen Ridley is selling a line of

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Speaker 1: clothing and they're all around this like pool, and the

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Speaker 1: pool has statues of women that are thinking mermaids with bikini's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what's going on at Drake's.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. I want to hear the conca

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Speaker 1: I want a reality show Drake's Backyard. Who wouldn't watch that? Well?

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Speaker 1: I would not because I have enough Odell beckhaman Brake's Backyard? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean what like like Drake's an idiot. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy who has come up with a pretty outstanding

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Speaker 1: multimedia career. He's made the transition no one expect. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's doing pretty well. He's pretty successful. Maybe maybe ODIEB

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Speaker 1: can learn what's your point of I'm not taking shots

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Speaker 1: like Drake is like a hip hop talent. Well you

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Speaker 1: just you wouldn't want to hear their conversation. They would

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Speaker 1: be insufferable together. Drake is talented and Odell Beckham is

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Speaker 1: telling it. I don't need to sit them and hear them.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe for a second that Greg would listen

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Speaker 1: to their conversation. I would want many episodes of this

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Speaker 1: year olds. Do you listen to their conversation? I would

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Speaker 1: watch the show. It would be I mean, granted, it

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Speaker 1: would be kind of waiting to see what ridiculousness pops up,

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Speaker 1: But your your dvring this and going through you've been

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Speaker 1: to watch that's the thing. You guys would watch it too.

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Speaker 1: Don't have TV. I think I would certainly check it out.

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Speaker 1: But the the idea that it would have been sufferable,

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Speaker 1: the conversations, it would be a hate watch for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that might be part of it. Uh, Shaws of Sunset

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Speaker 1: might be something i'd watch before. The joy in O

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Speaker 1: d B's dancing cannot be underestimated. And uh, he's got that.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was that happy doing anything, as happy

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Speaker 1: as od B is when he's danced. Irishman said he

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Speaker 1: has a question, guys, I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: TV show would you rather watch? Jake or Drake, Not

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Speaker 1: Jake and O d B. Or Johnny Menzel and Josh

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Speaker 1: Gordon as roommies, well the other one. The second show

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Speaker 1: would quickly rule Gordon out of any sort of return

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Speaker 1: to the unfl So I don't want to say that

501
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Speaker 1: sounds depressed Menzel Gordon sounds more like depressing going down

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Speaker 1: today's episode because TMZ article it just came out that

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Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel was in a hit and run accident in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: and then Josh Gordon picked up on on the sunset

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Speaker 1: strip and then they had a circle back to the

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Speaker 1: accident because they left the scene of it. What's going

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Speaker 1: on here? It does sound like a reality show because

508
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Speaker 1: we're getting an episode every two or three days. Brandon,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather watch Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith debate

510
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Speaker 1: whether the the Warriors should push Kobe Bryant's game off

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Speaker 1: ESPN to ESPN two. That's that's crazy, um all right?

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Speaker 1: And finally, uh J J. Watt and we were playing

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Speaker 1: that game yesterday or on our previous show by seller

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Speaker 1: hold on offseason narratives, and you know, I found it

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Speaker 1: suspicious that a new J. J. Watt stories popping up

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Speaker 1: every week, like almost like every Wednesday morning, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's there's a publicist to play here? J J. Watt

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, I think you know my

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Speaker 1: feelings about the gentleman talented ballplayer. But uh, this week

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt appeared in a snapchat with Kate Hutson,

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Speaker 1: the actress um really a strange snapchat uh video with Hudson,

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Speaker 1: and then that sparked, Oh J J. Watt is he taken?

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Speaker 1: And then he tweets out. He tweets out a reply

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Speaker 1: to a fan who asked what how he went from

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Speaker 1: quote single to dating two different blonds in twenty four hours?

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Speaker 1: Replying to that bro, he write, he writes, that's l

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Speaker 1: a hashtag single, get bro, get out of here? Bro?

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Speaker 1: Is that l A wes get out of the dating

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Speaker 1: world in a work? Wouldn't work if you were a

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Speaker 1: you know, potentially a generation generational type defensive talent with

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars and you know, multiple homes and all

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Speaker 1: sorts of cash. Would it work for you that way? Then?

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Speaker 1: And a sculpted six ft six pound body? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: get what is this? This this coupling though, what you

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Speaker 1: were saying in terms of wanting to be in the news,

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Speaker 1: that is a perfect pairing. Kate Hudson, she if I

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Speaker 1: was doing when I was doing my Hollywood um Analytics

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Speaker 1: blog website, she would lead the league in most magazine

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Speaker 1: covers to lowest box office over the last five years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she has stayed remarkably on top of things

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Speaker 1: and relevant with absolutely no movies or hits or anything.

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Speaker 1: And she does it with stuff like going out with J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt excellent announces what is J. J. Watt doing in

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Speaker 1: l A? Is he supposed to be like his pottery

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Speaker 1: bar in log cabin in Wisconsin. Yeah, with like thirty

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Speaker 1: seven bunk beds in there. A lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: do train on here. I mean, Greg I will point

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Speaker 1: out that once I don't know how old she is,

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Speaker 1: but once you hit a certain age in Hollywood, it's

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Speaker 1: stuff to land heat seeking roles as a female. I think,

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Speaker 1: I think you're you know, you're on an interesting side

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Speaker 1: of the of the debate there. That's absolutely fair, but

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Speaker 1: in Hollywood podcast that's absolutely fair. But I think Kate

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Speaker 1: Hudson had maxed out her her career as well as

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Speaker 1: he possibly could have, so I I think ashtag nepotism.

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Speaker 1: By the way, being six ft five alone would get J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt all the women in l A. Because I've never

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Speaker 1: seen so many women obsessed with men's height. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's incredible to me I never It was never a

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Speaker 1: factor in any dealings I had with any woman in

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Speaker 1: my life in any city until I moved to l A.

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Speaker 1: And now it's like the number one qualification on their list.

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Speaker 1: Are you six foot three or above? Nopek on the

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Speaker 1: online site, we should ask that starts walking around and stilts.

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Speaker 1: We should ask our upcoming guest here, Michael Berger walk

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Speaker 1: into this studio he's lived in l A. Wow, not that.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you're in the nepotism comment on

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Speaker 1: Kate hus I don't think that's fair. Now, did she

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Speaker 1: get into Hollywood that had helped her mother's Goldie Hawn?

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Speaker 1: Of course, sure, But when she played Penny Lane in

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Speaker 1: Almost Face, Yeah, that was that was She was captivating

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Speaker 1: in that role and it launched her career, and I

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Speaker 1: think fairly, and then she used up all that good

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Speaker 1: right to be fair, I'm not I don't really have

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Speaker 1: not been tracking Kate Hudson deeply enough, nor do I

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Speaker 1: care about her. The nepotism bomb. Yeah, well, if she

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Speaker 1: is the daughter of a extremely famous actress, that does

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Speaker 1: not hurt in Hollywood. Your sons will be their father

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Speaker 1: will be a famous NFL analyst that all over television

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Speaker 1: and the silver screen possibly as well. Will you want

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Speaker 1: them to be judged just because of your success? Yes? Dan.

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Speaker 1: Before we move on from this, J Watt actually already

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: heard this and he has a response for you. What

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Speaker 1: all I know the problems, that's all I know. Whatever,

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00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: bro come at me. Sitting to my left is Burger.

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Burger is the producer. I have a first name for

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00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: crying out loud, do you Yeah? I thought it was

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00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: like a Madonna type. We each have little names. Dan

589
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: likes to give us. I'm the boss and you can

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00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: just be Burger. Michael Burger is his god given name

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00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: or his parents at least um. He is the producer

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00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: of Paths to the Draft, which airs Monday to Friday

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network at six eastern three Pacific. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast. But I thought we

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Speaker 1: were doing once every two years. Now it's once this

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Speaker 1: once every two months. I'm did you guys scheduling error?

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Speaker 1: What happened has progress? I'm not complaining, but it's a

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Speaker 1: compliment towards you know, your epic performance last time. Oh

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Speaker 1: I thank you, Yes, we all remember it. There were

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Speaker 1: dozens of people told me, ye, Burger first off. Yes, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you you're a single man in Los Angeles, le's not married.

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Speaker 1: Uh have you found the same issues that Wes has

603
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Speaker 1: that women are obsessed with height? Well, I will say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what did uh what did actel

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Speaker 1: fully say in Beverly Hills cop to six foot women

606
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: grow on trees in California? So there, I mean there

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Speaker 1: is a there is a proliferation of of you know,

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Speaker 1: height uh women, a lot of tall women. That's fair,

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Speaker 1: and tall women don't want to date. That's not who

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm talking about women who won't date

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Speaker 1: men under six ft. It's quite quite a disparity. If

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Speaker 1: it's for as we're talking about twenty inches there, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a disease out here. I don't know that's that's

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Speaker 1: but yes, I I wes. This point I think does

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Speaker 1: does have some merit. Thank you. You're you're happily coupled.

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Speaker 1: I am happily coupled. Yes, how tall's she's about five

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Speaker 1: six pretty pretty standard? Boom, Yeah there we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk draft of Burger in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes, but before we do that, we do want

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Speaker 1: to touch on and and Mark I'm surprised this was

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Speaker 1: your idea. You are not a fan of the NBA

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00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: during the regular season, but there is a regular season

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Speaker 1: game taking place tonight at Staples Center here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: It is the Kobe Bryant uh finale of his UM

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Speaker 1: twenty season career. I believe you played for twenty years,

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00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: all with the l A Lakers and UM. So you

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Speaker 1: said this is what we should talk about. Mark, Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know I'm not a Kobe fan, but

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Speaker 1: I said it might not be a bad episode early

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Speaker 1: on when it's April to maybe just all right? So

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Speaker 1: what what Mark said? That wasn't quite the setup I

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Speaker 1: was looking for. But who is the NFL equivalent of

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, a player that was undeniably talented, tremendously successful,

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Speaker 1: but really viewed by many people as a villain or

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Speaker 1: someone that is hard to like. Who's the NFL guy

636
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: who makes you think that way? Now, hold on a second,

637
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was from any sport, that's any any sports, alright,

638
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: An is there an NFL guy? Though? I don't think

639
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: there is an NFL guy because struggle NFL feels more.

640
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: There's not a uniform of opinion about things like Michael

641
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Vick popped to my mind. But then again, Michael Vick's

642
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: you know when at the height of his U dog

643
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: fighting stuff. But then again, Michael Vick is one of

644
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: the most popular players of his generation, so like Ben

645
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger for Browns fans certainly throughout the Midwest, but I

646
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: don't know if he was universally reviled, not a lot

647
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: of the only the only guy that popped in my head,

648
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: and it was I quickly sort of rebuffed. It was

649
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Speaker 1: t o just just just for just for the just

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00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of the just sheer in your face way that

651
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: he played and kind of as polarizing is good. That

652
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: was the only one I could think of in the NFL.

653
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean, at a question of who do we love

654
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: to hate, because that's a different question. Do you have

655
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: a player that you like Ridgan, I'll admit that Peyton

656
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: Manning for my career, I I did it, certainly. That's

657
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: my Patriot and Patriots fandom that the Patriots never really

658
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: had a rival other than Peyton Manning was arrival. Wasn't

659
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: really the Colts or the Broncos. It was Peyton Manning.

660
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: That's where I would go with this anyway, and let

661
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: me unpack this for me. So to me, Kobe Bryant

662
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: and Alex Rodriguez are inextricably that was mine. They came

663
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: of age in the nineties when sports exploded financially an

664
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: image wise, and at eighteen nineteen years old in the

665
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: mid to late nineties, they are told by their handlers

666
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: it's about image. You have to reject this image. And

667
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: neither of those athletes built a base of character. Like

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00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: if you read The Education of Alex Rodriguez by J. R.

669
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Speaker 1: Mooring U a great long form, there's no soul there,

670
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: there's no base of Alex Rodriguez has no personality, no character.

671
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like the opposite of that. No, I don't

672
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: think so. I think he was too busy, wrapped up

673
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: trying to be Michael Jordan for years and trying to

674
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: protect this image. And I think Peyton Manning came of age,

675
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: Hey Manning came of age in that era too, and

676
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: he was all about spin controls, extremely about spin control

677
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: an image earlier in his career. And I don't think

678
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: he's a reviled star or anything, but but I see

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: those three guys as coming from that kind of deriving

680
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: from that era of professional sports exploding money wise, in

681
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: image wise. The interesting person to put in that category

682
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: as well, and I feel like they're all in that

683
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: same era is Jeter, who is for something you know,

684
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: in a in a in the polar opposite is just

685
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, revered by almost everybody who in baseball pop culture.

686
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: A lot of has to do with what he did

687
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: off the field, you know, his exploits there as well.

688
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: But but it's an interesting sort of dichotomy when you

689
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Speaker 1: have an A Rod or a Kobe and then a

690
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: guy like who again, same era, same time. Yeah, I

691
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: always thought there was more substance to get Kobe. I

692
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: totally disagree. Kobe seems like a very smart individual. Uh.

693
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: He certainly has an interesting background, He has strong views

694
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: on things. He seems insanely calculating, doesn't seem very likable.

695
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: But that seems different to me than an a Rod

696
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: and and maybe even a Jeter, which just seems kind

697
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: of like a black hole. Like Kobe was like a

698
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: lot there there, you know, whereas Kobe, I think there's

699
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: a lot there it just you just might not like it. No.

700
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: I think early in his career he was like a

701
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: rod and that he had to take a poll before

702
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: he would say any statement. I I would go from

703
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: the NFL angle big bend because I see that there

704
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: was an off the field incident that almost caused the

705
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: Steelers to think about parting ways with him. But we

706
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: also in a time where attention span is so brief

707
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: that that's completely forgotten at this point and his career

708
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: and who he is as a player has I respect

709
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: him now, so I don't hate. He also never really

710
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: captured the zeitgeist like the like a guy like Kobe

711
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: or I think Vic is a good guy to look

712
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: at in a lot of ways because he, like Kobe,

713
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: came in with a ton of hype. He was involved

714
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: with a draft day trade, He came into league then

715
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: lived up to the height, was a star that had

716
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: legal problems that changed the way people looked at him forever.

717
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: But as personalities, they seem like very different people. So

718
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: that's where that kind of falls apart. But I think

719
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Kobe is kind of on some level to me one

720
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: of a kind. I mean that is Michael. I mean

721
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: the other answer for me is Michael Jordan. I love

722
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: to hate Michael Jordan's real I was surprised what I learned.

723
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I think the rest a lot of the country kind

724
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: of jumped on and just became Bulls fans. I never

725
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: got to that point. I always hated him, always rooted again,

726
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: always root against because I was a Celtics fan. Not

727
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: that they were rivals, certainly not by the end of it,

728
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: but at the beginning, just didn't And you just don't

729
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: like the guy that's on top of see for me,

730
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: because Michael Jordan came into bloom when I was in

731
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: around fifth grade, and I have like notebooks from that

732
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: time just filled of drawing Michael Jordan's pictures and I

733
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: fell in love with the NBA for a period of

734
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: time because of him. Even though I ended up being

735
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: a Knicks fan, Jordan was fascinating to watch. I love

736
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: the guy. I grew up in a city didn't have

737
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: the NBA in Cincinnati, and to me, I always thought

738
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: anyone would suspect if they hated Jordan's really yeah, like,

739
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you because you don't like watching Michael

740
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Jordan play, Well, it's like that was beating right if

741
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: you're from Boston, I get that, but in Cincinnati, like

742
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: how much of a contrarian are you trying to beat?

743
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: Not like Michael Jordan. You would go up every year

744
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: we would drive up, drive up by sixty five and

745
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: go to I would see one Michael Jordan game a year.

746
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: I didn't make sure it was on my my list

747
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: to do with my parents. By the way, little in fact,

748
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Speaker 1: do you guys know what my middle name is? Jordan?

749
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Speaker 1: It is Jordan's. I thought it might be Michael Michael

750
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: Berger Michael Jordan's Burger. Wow, that's amazing. And you were

751
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: born obviously before Michael Jordan was named. Yeah, he was

752
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: like eight years there was Yeah, so that I was

753
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: not after ro that would be weak. Michael Jordan Burger,

754
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: by the real quick have you have you? That's gonna

755
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: make a new podcast? Do you know what? Do you

756
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: know what? You know what? People that don't know what

757
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: you look like? And why would they don't? You know?

758
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't. You don't look like Jordan's. I find

759
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: glasses alone and size well you can shooes who to

760
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: share it with. I find I find what usually when

761
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: I travel, like when I go internationally and I get

762
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: and I pull out my passport and everyone and it

763
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: takes them a second and it's always oh, Michael Jordans, Oh,

764
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: and then it becomes a whole thing. I just your

765
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: hair is somewhat similar to we do have similar hairlines, yes,

766
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: or lack thereof in this case. But um wait, by

767
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: the before real quick before us uh, we were talking

768
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: about in the newsroom more compelling game tonight Kobe or

769
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: the Warriors game. Yeah, Larriors by far Kobe stopped being compelling,

770
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: and when he stopped being good. To know, a lot

771
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: of people listen to this afterwards. But it just seems

772
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: like that if you can great greatness and he's just

773
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Speaker 1: if you could choose to be a one game I

774
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: would probably choose Kobe because you know he's gonna jack

775
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: up forty shots and maybe he gets hot and you

776
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: see something crazy Golden State, it's gonna be up by

777
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: thirty point to be like watching Peyton Manning in the

778
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Give me a break, I don't know. Alright,

779
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: So Burger, here we go, Here we go draft. Here's

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00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: a seg uh called draft? Sure points with Burger. Now

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00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: it's pressures on me, right, Yeah, so Michael Jordan Burger

782
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: and that's never Maybe I should have kept that one

783
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: Burger And yeah, we saw Burger in the lobby yesterday

784
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Speaker 1: and he said, what are we gonna do? What are

785
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: we gonna talk about? We want to talk a little draft,

786
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: and Burger, because he's an idea man, he said, well,

787
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: there's certain parts of the draft. Why don't you explain it, producer. Yeah, no,

788
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not gonna sit here in and

789
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: evaluate players. That's not certainly what I'm qualified to do.

790
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: But I do think that there are interesting, you know,

791
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: teams picking in certain spots of the draft that I

792
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: think will dictate certainly the first round, and how various

793
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: teams not only pick after them, but kind of just

794
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: change the complexion potentially of the first round. Um with uh,

795
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it starts, I think with the Browns

796
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: and two, assuming again no one trades up and Tennessee

797
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Speaker 1: holds onto the top spot. It starts with the Browns

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Speaker 1: at two, and there's some other interesting spots as we

799
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of moved down the first, right, So why don't

800
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: we start with the Browns at two? Well? Look, I

801
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: mean for a lot of these teams, it comes down

802
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: to will they are won't they draft a quarterback? And obviously, um,

803
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, did the r G three signing take the

804
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: Browns out of uh, the mindset of drafting a quarterback?

805
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Who knows is it went is it Golf? Do they

806
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: like either one enough to sit it too and take

807
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback? The argument for the Browns is, on one hand,

808
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: shirt you need a franchise guy. Obviously you don't think

809
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Josh McCown or r G three, Uh is that guy?

810
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Moving forward? Having said that, we all know the Browns

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00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: need help at a lot of different places, on a

812
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: lot of different levels of the field. So do they

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00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: trade back and try to get more picks and maybe

814
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: hope that a quarterback, if they like a quarterback is

815
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: there at six or seven? Do they think that Wentz,

816
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Golf and Lynch are maybe the same guy, and they

817
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: moved back even further to you know, and hope that

818
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: he's there fifteen, middle of the first round, whatever it is.

819
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: They could either take the best player on their board,

820
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: whether it's a Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack somebody like that,

821
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: and and certainly store up what was not a very

822
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: good defense last year. Um or they take a quarterback

823
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: and that will have a major domino effect on what happens.

824
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Speaker 1: You know, Cowboys at four, the Niners at seven, even

825
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: the Rams at fifteen, um, and I'll kind of start

826
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Speaker 1: the ball rolling. I think in the first round a

827
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Speaker 1: little bit, Mark, how would you feel if the Browns

828
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: did not come out of this draft with a quarterback?

829
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the fant of me would be disappointed,

830
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: but I'd I'd be more interested to find out who

831
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: made that decision, because the sense that we're getting word

832
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: that you know, Pet Hamilton's the offensive corner, really wants golf.

833
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: But maybe Hugh Jackson does too, but maybe the front

834
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: office just wants to compile picks. Well, Cleveland's made a

835
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: cottage industry of trading down. You didn't get Julio Jones

836
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and you ended up getting Phil Taylor, who's not on

837
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: the team anymore. How many times do this? I think

838
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: you gotta swing at a quarterback if Hugh Jackson loves

839
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: one of them, if they aren't sold on one, You're right,

840
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: that glass half full is you could pick any position

841
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: and it would be a position of need in Cleveland, right,

842
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: But I am not buying the idea. And look, it's

843
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: on our website that it's coming out in these couple

844
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Speaker 1: of days, in the last few days that the Browns

845
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Speaker 1: are not in love necessarily with anyone to take at

846
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: number two, and so that they're more than willing they're

847
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: trying to trade out. There's a lot of smoke that

848
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade out. You got the number two pick

849
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: in the draft, and by all accounts, these two quarterbacks

850
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: are worthy top ten quarterback picks. So it seems crazy

851
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: to me that they would not view either one of

852
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks as a franchise quarterback. I don't care that

853
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: their number two or number eight either their franchise quarterbacks

854
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: or they're not. And if they if they deem one

855
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: of those two guys, you have to take them. There's

856
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: no better way to change your team and take one

857
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: next year, just keeping just keep taking them. And and

858
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: don't you have to kind of with the new regime,

859
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: link yourself for better for worse, inextricably to somebody a

860
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: face the franchise and kind of just not Jeremy Tunsil,

861
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: who will play right tackle for three years, like Jeremy's

862
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: his cousin. It's you take one of these guys early,

863
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: you put you get him in the lineup, don't be

864
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: starting r G three deep into the seas and see

865
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: what he can do. If there's a lot of bad

866
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: juju around the guy, you're gonna have a top five

867
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: pick next year to probably get the best quarterback. Just

868
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. That's what they gotta get the quarter

869
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: You hit it and everything changes. You want to don't

870
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: get too smart, right, Um, all right, let's move on.

871
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think the Browns at two are interesting,

872
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, you go right down to the

873
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys at four. And this is kind of the million

874
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: dollar question pressure. Okay, go ahead, look creepy, but that's cool.

875
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: That's a guy. Uh million dollar question in this draft

876
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: is will the Cowboys take a quarterback at four? Um?

877
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: They Now, it's really crazy they you know, whether you

878
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: believe Jerry Jones or not, you know a lot of

879
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: the scuttle, but seems to be that they are really

880
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: looking at either even if Whence or GoF is taken,

881
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: it too that they are looking at the other one

882
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: potentially at four. Now, look, they say they have Tony

883
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: Roma is their guy. He's gonna be there for the

884
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: next however many years he has left three, four or five,

885
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe more. But they don't have that quarterback

886
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: of the future, certainly, And if you know, we've been

887
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: saying all year on path of the draft. If you

888
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think one of these guys is that

889
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. We're guardless of whether you have your in

890
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Romo on your roster or not, you take a quarterback

891
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: at four. If not, you know, they probably go edge

892
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: rusher with a Joey Bosa, Miles Jack will still be there,

893
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: maybe a deforced Buckner. But it's really that to me

894
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: is is the most interesting question of the first round

895
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: is what the Cowboys do it for and specifically will

896
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: they take a quarterback? And if your Dallas, you want

897
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: to If you're it's like and you know, you get

898
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: the draw four card and you blow the opponent up,

899
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: like you want to be one of those twos. I

900
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: don't know where that like the Packers and the cults

901
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: where you have a franchise quarterback for a decade plus

902
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: and then you just insert the next one without any

903
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: nonsense in between the And if there is a scenario

904
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys have the choice of any quarterback on

905
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: the board of that pick, I think they would live

906
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: to regret the day. I don't know what's going on

907
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: Tony Romo and his health of the stage people and

908
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: not forgotten by the way that I wrote this in

909
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: a mail bag that we published yesterday. You know, he

910
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: has this classical thing that he got the Mumford and

911
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: Son's surgery on, and now people have forgotten that he

912
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: has a back injury that can go on him at

913
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: any time, and that could end his career too. So

914
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: is two potentially career ending injuries that can pop up

915
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: at any time. You gotta get the next guy. Kellen

916
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: Moore is not the next guy. The third You know

917
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: who the third quarterback on the roster is West. Yeah,

918
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: it's like it's a made up name. It's like Strongs

919
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: or something strong something like. It's like, he's not the guy.

920
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: I feel like they would make a huge mistakes. Couldn't

921
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: just a real human being who has achieved a lifelong

922
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: dream to make the NFL. The entire Showers family is

923
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: proud of Jamille. You're just mocking him. Alright, sorry, all right,

924
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: let's move down. I mean real quick. Couldn't they just

925
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: take a quarterback at the top of the second round.

926
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: This is a draft word. Supposedly that you know that

927
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: that there will be three three quarterbacks maybe taken in

928
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: the second round. I I. It's an interesting one for

929
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: the Jones is too, because it's a definite Are we

930
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: still trying to win a super Bowl with Tony Romo?

931
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: You would think, yes, they they have not lost sight

932
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: of that. Do we really have the patience to take

933
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback versus a guy like an addresser like Buckner

934
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: or Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe put him in the backfield and

935
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: you just Jerry Jones gets excited about that and tries

936
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl. Right now, that seems more

937
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys. And you've got to think they're chopping

938
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: at the bit after what happened last year, just a

939
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: lost season, completely lost that they just well they don't

940
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: want to you know, they are going all in. You

941
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: would think this year and drafting a quarterback for a

942
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: long term play doesn't necessarily fit, you know what they

943
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: and I know the money isn't crazy at the top anymore,

944
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: but it's still a lot of money. If you take

945
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback four and you have Tony Romo as the top,

946
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, top paid quarterback in the league, just about

947
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot. It's got to be voices in the

948
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: buildings saying no, no, no, no, we need we need

949
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: something else. But to West's point, couldn't you take a

950
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: quarterback in the second round if they want to go

951
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: edge rusher or defensive tackle in the you know, if

952
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: that need for them this draft that this is by

953
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: far the strength of the draft is defensive ends and

954
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. So they if they think there's that much

955
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: difference between Wentz and Golf there when Dallas picks that's

956
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: my prediction. Yeah, and they may they may not be.

957
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be it'll be interesting. But that

958
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's that's a really interesting part of

959
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: the draft. Give us another pressure point. Um, I mean,

960
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go down. I'm just gonna crawl

961
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: into the table here. Uh, Niners at seven because again

962
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: it's will it will one of those quarterbacks still be there?

963
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: And if uh, if they are, do they take one?

964
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, they have a lot of needs obviously up

965
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: front at the offensive line, linebackers, and they're not gonna

966
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: take a linebacker at seven, certainly you wouldn't think. But um,

967
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: you know they've well that's seven eight, that's yeah the

968
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: Eagle or yeah, the Niners at seven and the Eagles

969
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: at eight. You know you're round in the corner. If

970
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: the Eagles are doing something strange. I mean, we talked

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: about this a little bit, just that that they're really

972
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: they're you know, working out every they're working out whence

973
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: I believe today Wednesday, as we're taping this, they're working

974
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: out all the guys. They're in all these like I

975
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: don't really buy I don't quite buy that, but I

976
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: think I think if you're really interested in one of

977
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: those two guys, it's hard to imagine really any scenario

978
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: they get past seven eight. Yeah, and and they all

979
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: we know they also someone will trade to Philadelphia at

980
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: a I think, to take the second guy if they're

981
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: not off the board. They also love Ezekiel Elliott. I

982
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: mean that's something that's been connected to them for a

983
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: long time, and that's you know, we saw Todd Gurley

984
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: go on the top ten last year. By all accounts,

985
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: ezekiellett Is is kind of, you know, a very similar

986
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: different styles, but as well, there's whisper similar talents. Yeah,

987
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: there's whispers of Philly going up to number two to

988
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: take get there. So the Dallas Camp forty niners seem

989
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: and I would throw the Rams in this and maybe

990
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: they're a pressure at fifteen, Tould put them, I sound

991
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: as creepy as Greg creep it's a it's a common

992
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: it's a nice combination of creepy. Uh. I would think

993
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: that they're about as likely as anyone to make a

994
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: big time trade, because desperation equals trades, and the Rams,

995
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: especially at fifteen. Can't you just see them knowing that

996
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher is the first coach since Dave Shula to

997
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: make it to a fifth season without a winning record

998
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: in less sneed has never had a winning record, and

999
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: they're moving to l A and you just need a

1000
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: face of the franchise, and they just give up their pick,

1001
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: They give up next year's first who knows you're throwing

1002
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's or something, and you move up wherever you

1003
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: need to move Fisher and here the opposite r G

1004
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: three they do, and then seeing them as their starting quarterbacks, thill,

1005
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher has never been condescendingly padded on the head

1006
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: by one of his players while giving him a lecture.

1007
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: Remember that, Yes, that is not a guy to ever

1008
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: be connected to historically on any level. Dave. Al Right, Burger,

1009
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: let's hear about another team under well, I think Uh,

1010
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: the Bears at eleven are interesting because again if if

1011
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: for some reason, let's say the Browns don't take a quarterback,

1012
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Let's say the Cowboys don't take a quarterback. Okay, and

1013
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: let's say for all tends purposes, the Niners take offer

1014
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: went at seven, the Eagles go offensive line, let's say,

1015
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: which is a big need for them at eight. Then

1016
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: the Bears at eleven. You know, some team either is

1017
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna want that last quarterback, that second quarterback to you know,

1018
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: and worried that maybe the Rams taking a fifteen or

1019
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: do the Bears who don't really have quarterback in the

1020
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: future behind Jay Culor, who I believe is entering the

1021
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: last year of his contract. Is that correct? Someone check

1022
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: me on that. It might be the last year of guaranteed. Yeah,

1023
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: maybe that's what it is. But but either way, you

1024
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: know that color is not exactly the most reliable option

1025
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: at the position that we've seen in the last couple

1026
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: of years. And and maybe they take a quarterback at

1027
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: a level I mean, again, it's the first the first

1028
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: half of the draft is where these first two quarterbacks

1029
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: end up, and that really will affect what so many

1030
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: other teams. I'd be shocked if they got that far.

1031
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: But New Orleans Ian Rappaport mentioned New Orleans as a

1032
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: team that is major interest in a quarterback to right.

1033
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: So it's their their number, their number twelve. So no one,

1034
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: none of these guys are getting that low. But if

1035
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: they do, that's it and that and that's where you

1036
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: could see the movement again. If one of those guys

1037
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: is still on the table, do the Rams move up

1038
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: a couple of spots? Do the Saints jump up a

1039
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: couple of spots? Do the Jets move from twenty? You know,

1040
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: if they're not sold, if Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't done yet

1041
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: there and they don't think Bryce Petty Orgino Smith is

1042
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: the answer, do they move up? There's a lot of

1043
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: play that could happen. And then sort of middle ten picks.

1044
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: If one of those guys is still on the board,

1045
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: take Color wouldn't be on the airs if anyone had

1046
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: taken him in a trade last year, right, Burger, give

1047
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: us one more team that's feeling the well, I just

1048
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: I'll give you too quickly because they're both they're both

1049
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: similar sort of dynamics. So in the at the end

1050
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: of the first round, you have the Texans at twenty

1051
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: two and the Steelers at twenty five. What's interesting about

1052
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: those two teams is if you look at the draft

1053
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: orders starting at twenty two, you have the Texans at

1054
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: twenty two, the Vikings at twenty three, and the Bengals

1055
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: at twenty four, all three of whom you could argue

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00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: their first biggest need is a wide receiver. So and

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00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: you have, you know, these receivers. You you might not

1058
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: see the first one taking, whether it's Lakwan Treadwell or

1059
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman or Josh Dockson or whoever it is, that

1060
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: they may not be taken until right or you know,

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00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: in eighteen nineteen somewhere in that back half of the

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00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: first round. So you could see a run on receivers there,

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00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe all all three of those teams Texans, Vikings, Bengals

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00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: taking receivers or if they're gone before the Bengals pick,

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00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: then the bank, you know, so you could see one

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00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: of those teams kind of get shut out if there's

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00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: a little run on receivers there in that early twenties,

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: and then at the Steelers want to get caught at

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00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: the end of the run exactly exactly. It's like again

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Speaker 1: on the top of that. It's like a crappy Yeah,

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00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: it's like a crappy closer run in a baseball Fantasy

1072
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: baseball draft. You don't want. You don't want the J. J.

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00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: Hoovers or any of those guys. Yeah. Anyways, the only

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: person in this room that knows who well, he's the

1075
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: close Come on, Yeah, that's my team, thank you. Uh.

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00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: And then and then the Steelers at twenty five quickly

1077
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: Steelers twenty five, Seahawks at twenty six, Packers of twenty seven.

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00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: You could argue their biggest need each is a cornerback,

1079
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of corners who we've seen mocked

1080
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round of William Jackson

1081
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: and Eli Apple already burns. Those guys. We gotta run.

1082
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: You could see very interesting kind of positional runs. Uh

1083
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: in the late mided late twenties. As we kind of

1084
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: get through the first end, Steelers need to trade Big

1085
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: Bend to the Jets for Darrell Reavis. Do that a

1086
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: second that both needs both teams needs. Well, Burger, you've

1087
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: done it again, came on the show, and uh, you

1088
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: shocked the world, knocked another and you now you know

1089
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: my middle name. Yeah, what did we learn? Uh, Michael

1090
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Jordan's burger. He has to do with that a lot

1091
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and it's not always fun, but this is fun. Yeah,

1092
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: what do we already know? You are a former Wheel

1093
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: of Fortune contestants, that's right, championship not let's not sell

1094
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: a short here dating a woman that is somewhere between

1095
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: five six seven. Yes, and very attractive woman, I should say, so,

1096
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: good job there, burger um passionate Bengals fan. Yes, so

1097
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: you're a man that feels pressure. Are your team to

1098
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: win in January? So there's a lot of stuff going on.

1099
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: That workout last year, same way it always do. And

1100
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: you how to get that in there? Didn't That's but

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00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: not least he's the producer of path to the drafts today.

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00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Yea Eastern tune in. Uh, yeah, it's gonna we're what's

1103
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: uh fifteen days out now until the two thousand six

1104
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, so close Chicago. I know I will be

1105
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: here sort of overseeing our studio coverage as we lead

1106
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: up to uh the big day on and then the

1107
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: rest of the weekend. It's weird that path to the draft.

1108
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: It's not it makes sense, but there's path to the

1109
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: draft after the draft too. Yeah, it should be path

1110
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: from the draft at that point after the confusing. I

1111
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: think you gotta work on the branding a little bit. Yeah,

1112
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: I'll see what I can do. It's just one preposition

1113
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: change or just like it's a graphic or just like

1114
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: the path to the draft is over the path to

1115
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: the next year. I believe it's technically called the Those

1116
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: are called the path to the draft recap shows. So

1117
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of you know, subtle, it's

1118
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: still a tad Cumberson is that when DJ goes on

1119
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: vacation for like nine months after that's after that week,

1120
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: the week after the draft, we will not see Yeah.

1121
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: And it also doesn't remind me of the other show

1122
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: you produced around the NFL uh confusing that they also

1123
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: name this podcast around the NFL. UH And and for

1124
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: so long there was no link between the two programs

1125
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: that we've made. Maybe that maybe that means you just

1126
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: have to have me on more. That's all. Perhaps the

1127
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: glass you are the bridge between the two programs. UH

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00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on. What's your Twitter handle again,

1129
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: Mikey b TV. Mikey BTV, mikey b TV follow him?

1130
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: He knows what he's talking about Mike Burger, Michael Jordan Burger.

1131
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, Greg, can I get

1132
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: an update on the iTunes challenge? Of course, we've been

1133
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: asking all of our listeners to leave five star reviews,

1134
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: and uh, five star ratings and a nice or bad reviews,

1135
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: we don't care about that, just to see if we

1136
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: can goose Apple's rating system where we go has not

1137
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: made much of an impact, but you we have left

1138
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: a lot of comments, and that alone, uh is exciting

1139
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: and important because I don't like to see you kind

1140
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: of look at how many people have left ratings for

1141
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: different podcasts and you can say, okay, that that one's

1142
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: bigger than that one, and so a lot of people

1143
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: have been leaving the comments and that I appreciate. I

1144
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: think it's goosed up about a hundred since we asked.

1145
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: There are five tweets on Twitter with the hashtag iTunes

1146
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: hashtag iTunes challenge. You gotta sip spread the word fire.

1147
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: We also need you know, I think even just as

1148
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: important as that is telling your friends to go subscribe it.

1149
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: You guys like the NFL, Oh yeah, you like podcasts?

1150
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? How about you try the around the NFL podcast.

1151
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: We got something. Go subscribe to that little word of

1152
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: mouth because I think the new subscribers that's always big.

1153
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: That's good. Tell a buddy phony front. Well, we'll be

1154
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: back tomorrow very special around the NFL podcast schedule release day.

1155
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, schedule dropping. So we'll have a full breakdown

1156
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: all the schedule heat and that will be posted the

1157
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: minute the schedule is out. So we we we work

1158
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: at the NFL, and we'll get it a little early.

1159
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: We'll be able to pre tape it until the second

1160
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: that schedule releases on. You know, you you check it

1161
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: out and you you listen to the podcast. Do you

1162
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: ever listen to our podcast all the time? You do?

1163
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite? Michael Jordan Burger? Who's my favorite person

1164
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: on the show? And you can't go lindsay yeah, I

1165
00:58:52,440 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: probabably would say Colleen of the Core four could work.

1166
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: We worked together. This Come on, this is not going

1167
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: there's no it's gonna be offended. Lion Tale, don't lie.

1168
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: All right, that's it, it's not Yeah, he's not a rap.

1169
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Speaker 1: Can we get this? Yeah? That's it? Uh, this is

1170
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Speaker 1: uh Yeah. We'll be back on Thursday with the schedule

1171
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: released special until then this is Dan handsOn signing off

1172
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Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Mailman literally Michael Jordan and the boss,

1173
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: of course, the Irishman behind the glass. Till Thursday