WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Kicking This NFL Draft Around

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 1>official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnolan and Mickey just couldn't wait until Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the National Football League Draft. He had

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<v Speaker 1>to get in a day early. And so here we

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<v Speaker 1>are at one o'clock on a Wednesday with a special

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Mick Shots. And in the case of Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be one oh six on Wednesday that he

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<v Speaker 1>will be along for this edition of Mick Shots. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're happy year along too. And Mickey, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you? Have you got rested and covered from the

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<v Speaker 1>draft over the weekend? You know, I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>when I was kind of looking at all my stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, gosh, the draft seems like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. It was only but three four days ago

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<v Speaker 1>it finished, and it seems like it's been so long.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I have recovered. Oh yeah, and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got uh. Let's see copious amount of copy here

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<v Speaker 1>between Draft Choice bios last year's stats, round by round

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys nine picks, and this is my big green

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<v Speaker 1>notebook here. There you go. That's right, I've got my

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<v Speaker 1>big green notebook here, which I haven't put back in

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<v Speaker 1>the drawer for next year. I've still will use it

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. Dude, look back and analyze not

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<v Speaker 1>only what the Cowboys did in the draft, but all

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<v Speaker 1>the mistakes that other teams made of the draft. But

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<v Speaker 1>first off, are you disappointed that you will not be

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<v Speaker 1>covering a Cowboys game either in the UK or in

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<v Speaker 1>Germany or in Mexico City. Absolutely, especially not in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK or Germany, since I haven't been to Germany before,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be a good way to go. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know the Cowboys. There's a Cowboys fan

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<v Speaker 1>club in London, and I was on with him during

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<v Speaker 1>the draft and they were they were pretty hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys would be returning for one of those four

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<v Speaker 1>games out in Europe, and they were interviewing Will McClay.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was before I came on and they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to question and Will said, the Cowboys vice

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<v Speaker 1>president of a player personnel said, it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to work out this year. And those guys were, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, no, there's four games out here, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was braced for the letdown that came out today

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<v Speaker 1>that they won't be returning to London. And here are

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<v Speaker 1>the international games as announced this morning on the NFL Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting on October second, at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings against the New Orleans Saints to be broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Sunday morning game eight thirty Dallas time on

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Network. The following week, October ninth, the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>will play the Packers at same stadium NFL Network at

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty. And then the end of October, on October

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth at Wimbley Stadium is when the Jacksonville Jaguars will

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<v Speaker 1>play the Denver Broncos in what is basically their annual

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<v Speaker 1>game at Wimbley Stadium this year for Jacksonville. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we thought perhaps if the Cowboys were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to London, it's because they're scheduled to play at Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>So they will be playing at Jacksonville and not in

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<v Speaker 1>London against Jacksonville this year. And then the other two

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<v Speaker 1>games that are added in Munich first game in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Seattle Seahawks and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was announced actually at the draft, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that isn't on November thirteenth, also a Sunday morning game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Mexico City game is a Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>game November twenty first, San Francisco and Arizona. That might

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<v Speaker 1>be Troy Aikman's birthday November twenty first. I gotta look

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<v Speaker 1>it up, so he will be spending his birthday in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico City because it's an ESPNC. That's an ESPN Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night game. I thought when I saw that come out, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, it's an ESPY and he's a Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>football now right, right, And the thought occurred to me, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in about twenty years, Troy Aikman

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be home for Thanksgiving, right yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>at first I was thinking, Oh, Troy's gotta do He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a Monday night game, and then he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around and do Thursday. No, he doesn't do Thursday. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's at ESPN. So I heard one theory on why

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, you know, because last time they went to London,

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<v Speaker 1>they played Jacksonville, and it's it. I heard one theory

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<v Speaker 1>that because of the Cowboy fans all over the country here,

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<v Speaker 1>that if they show up for an away game, that's

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<v Speaker 1>usually a big sellout game for that team. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to Jacksonville, you know, the Cowboy fans

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<v Speaker 1>can find tickets to that game, right right, And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I don't know that Jerry still wants

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<v Speaker 1>to give up a home game to go and play

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<v Speaker 1>in London. Yeah, so so yeah, I am disappointed. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is, by the way, November twenty first, it is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>very good. Why do I know that? Yeah? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you because spond with somebody else that's more important in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. No, Troy is very import all right. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know how old he'll be in November

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first? I am going to guests, Uh fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six? That was good, very good? All right? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there are your international games for twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the Cowboys are more likely to play an

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<v Speaker 1>international game in twenty twenty three now, although probably not

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're the visiting team. Yeah. Yeah, So, and since

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking schedules, the NFL schedule is slated to come

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<v Speaker 1>out next Thursday, so May twelfth, And as I pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out in mix shots, they're coming out on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot com today. They're going to start on May ninth

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<v Speaker 1>and start releasing other significant games like Thanksgiving, each team's

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<v Speaker 1>home opener. And I'm guessing if all that's coming out

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<v Speaker 1>by May twelfth, before the official announced, we're gonna know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna know when we convene for even though it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be official, when we convene for mix shots at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty next Thursday, some seven or eight hours before the

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<v Speaker 1>official announcement, it will be leaked. I guarantee you, as

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<v Speaker 1>I as I pointed out with my little comment that

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<v Speaker 1>if the Supreme Court can't keep a secret, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>probably can't keep a secret. That's right. Yea usually comes

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<v Speaker 1>out about an hour before they officially announced it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's gonna be days you much? Yeah? All right? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So where do we start? As far as you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see my draft order picture, you're one, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>nine draft picks, remember Jerry with the holding that sucker

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<v Speaker 1>up there? Yeah? Um? So do we start at the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning? Yeah? Let's you know overall. Um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think one thing that people don't take into account was

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys were drafting twenty fourth unless you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>give up draft picks to move up. Um, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>you're drafting twenty fourth is because you ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve and five record. And they make it more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for the teams that got into the playoffs, advanced

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs. Uh, go to the super Bowl to

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<v Speaker 1>get the top talent, because this is a league that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll meek shell inherent and so the least be first,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And that's why everybody's going crazy about Well,

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<v Speaker 1>look what the Giants did, and look what Philadelphia did,

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<v Speaker 1>and look what Washington did. Well, yeah, they were drafting

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<v Speaker 1>higher because they were poor, and not so much Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, the Giants in Washington, you know, so that

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<v Speaker 1>they get the opportunity to get the best talent in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. And the Eagles were poor the year before

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<v Speaker 1>and they made use of that by acquiring draft drafts

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<v Speaker 1>and then exactly so they're supposed to get better. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the idea of this whole socialized uh NFL process.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think from where the Cowboys were and what

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to accomplish. I think they did a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good job. Now we can argue this, this and this,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things I think people need to

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<v Speaker 1>take into consideration is, and I'll just take the first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>When they took Tyler Smith, uh, the guard tackle out

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<v Speaker 1>of Tulsa at twenty four, there wasn't another offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>taken until the third round. So if you had this

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<v Speaker 1>guy high and you took a different position, the talent

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<v Speaker 1>level obviously went down after Tyler Smith because no one

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<v Speaker 1>else thought a tackle was worth taken until the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it came to guards, the only guard taken

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<v Speaker 1>after Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith was the infamous cole Very

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<v Speaker 1>Strange pick by the Patriots, number twenty nine. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think those people did when they saw that pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Which people the Patriots the Patriots fans right? And there

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<v Speaker 1>were only two more guards taken in the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the talent level at those positions fell off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's some folks that think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys took Tyler Smith like they got the twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't know what to do and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take this guy. If they were going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this in the first round with a guard tackle or

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<v Speaker 1>a tackle guard, however you want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>His name started coming up at least the day before.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know much about him because the draft experts

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know much about him, and they were on to

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<v Speaker 1>him heading into the draft. So just because his name

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't familiar to everybody that does mock drafts, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them failed miserably in their mock drafts, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it an over thirty two. By the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what they're doing either. So I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at if I take this guy here,

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<v Speaker 1>then what's the next position that maybe I need that

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<v Speaker 1>has guys in the second round that I can use

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe into the third round. Because all the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers were gone, right, six of them, six went in

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<v Speaker 1>the first eighteen picks, right, Uh, and the top offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackles were already off the board. So unless they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to go there were six offensive linehind them. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's twelve right of the and so unless they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go defense, uh, this was I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be their pick. Okay. So Tyler Smith, obviously he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's very young, just turned twenty one April third. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I know that? No? Uh, I know that. And

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<v Speaker 1>and someone very close to me, my mother. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, very good, all right. So so I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>remember that he's got April. You know, Michael Parsons is

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty six. You know how I know that someone

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<v Speaker 1>very close to me's birthdays in May twenty six? That

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<v Speaker 1>would be me. You know, I'm gonna give you a funny, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know anything about the significance of April

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth except that was my parents' anniversary. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>found out that April twentieth had something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weed all day long. Fight, that's right. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Okay, we know anyway, Okay, all right, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so young. He's basically has just started two seasons

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<v Speaker 1>at the group of five level at Tulsa UM. Converted

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<v Speaker 1>to offensive line as a junior in high school, so

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't played the position all that long. Um, But

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<v Speaker 1>why then? And so those are some of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that the so called experts did not have him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a finished product, Okay, he is. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>projection on what he's going to be in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys believe that because he has the tools that

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<v Speaker 1>he has, he can start immediately or they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>give him an opportunity to start immediately inside at guard

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see. But why do you think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>had him ranked as high as they had him, which

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<v Speaker 1>was above the two guards who probably who might in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Kenyon Green, I think he would be

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<v Speaker 1>a better offensive guard this season, probably than what Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Smith will be. And Zion Johnson was considered by a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people to be the top offensive guard in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, although he went behind Kenyon Green in the draft. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but why did the Cowboys have Tyler Smith rank so high?

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<v Speaker 1>And why was he a priority for them regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>all the tackles being off the board. Why do they

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy? I think this is a out. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like playing craps. You put money on the combline,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I think what they're doing here. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think they feel like it's safer for him to

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<v Speaker 1>start off at guard, where you have sure it's like

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<v Speaker 1>playing bumper cars, right, You're in the middle of two

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<v Speaker 1>bumper cars and you're a little bit safer and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it looks like he has some physical traits

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<v Speaker 1>that are conducive to eventually playing tackle. And the knock

0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody gave on him is because somebody once wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>he had all these holding penalties, and I thought, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Dallas Cowboys dot com, Nick Eatman did

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<v Speaker 1>a very good job of getting a hold of the

0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:55.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach at Tulsa and yeah, and he explained that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of his penalties came because he was dominant

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<v Speaker 1>eating people and that he's got such strong hands. It's

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<v Speaker 1>as like when Tyrant Smith got here and they were

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<v Speaker 1>like and Nate started this, it was like he's and

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, the hotel. Once they grab you, you

0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.160
<v Speaker 1>can't get away. And he felt like the guy would

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<v Speaker 1>dominate people so badly and see somebody on the ground

0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, well he must have held him

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, had committed a penalty. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the Cowboys were looking at for what he

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<v Speaker 1>can give him down the road. And as for Kenyan Greene,

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<v Speaker 1>the medical report on him suggested that in a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two he may not be in the league because

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<v Speaker 1>of degenerative knee problem that he had, and the Cowboys

0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.640
<v Speaker 1>were very, very skeptical about taking him, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>they hope that they didn't have to make that to

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<v Speaker 1>see I'm gonna I'm gonna read the Cowboys mind. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they would have drafted regardless even

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<v Speaker 1>if Kenyan Green was healthy, right, and Zion Johnson. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think if if let's say Tyler Smith was not

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft, wasn't available, and you had Kenyon Green

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<v Speaker 1>or Zion Johnson as your choice is there, they would

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<v Speaker 1>not They would not have taken either one or no.

0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.400
<v Speaker 1>They would have taken the defensive Lloyd. Even they could

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<v Speaker 1>have even taken Dax Hill whoever. You know, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken best player or tried to trade down. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have traded down and then taken whatever. See this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason that Tyler Smith is more valued in

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<v Speaker 1>that room than all those other guys is because they

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<v Speaker 1>project him to eventually be Tyrn Smith's replacement at left tackle. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he is the first round draft pick. That

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is why he was ranked as high on their board too.

0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Is that's what scouts do. It's not just what that

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<v Speaker 1>product is right now, it's what this guy can be

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, and that is why that was more

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>valuable to them than any other position on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>That whether they're going to come out and say it

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.840
<v Speaker 1>or not, they look at him because we'll see how

0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.000
<v Speaker 1>much longer Tyrn Smith can play. They but especially since

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he's only twenty one years old. Tyler Smith, right, they

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.000
<v Speaker 1>look at him. It could be four years from now, okay,

0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.400
<v Speaker 1>his second contract, even if Tyrn hopefully he'll be able

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to play five more years whatever, But they look at

0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Smith as being his eventual replacement. And with Tyrn Smith,

0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's an unknown, right Can he play another year? Can

0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you play two years? Can he play three years? With

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>guys like that that are kind of and he's not

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that old, right, he's gonna turn thirty. He's thirty one,

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think right now. But it could end any time.

0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And at that point then you're going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a draft going, oh my god, I gotta take somebody. Well, no,

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I've already got that no matter when it happens. And

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<v Speaker 1>I and if he can play guard, then he can

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>transition anytime to the tackle position. Instead of saying I'm

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.720
<v Speaker 1>going into the draft and I gotta have this, they

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.440
<v Speaker 1>already have it in place. So it's almost like a

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.920
<v Speaker 1>term insurance policy. And so in the meantime he can

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>play guard until he's needed at tackle or if he

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.440
<v Speaker 1>who knows, maybe he won't develop. I mean, that's the

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that's it's a crapshoot. Sometimes you don't know for sure

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.640
<v Speaker 1>how these guys are going to develop. That's why it's

0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.880
<v Speaker 1>an inexact science. And the guard position we talked about

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it last week. The guard position is not a highly

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 1>valued spot. See here's what they could have done if

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:48.879
<v Speaker 1>they did not take a guard, if they did not

0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 1>value Tyler Smith that great late okay, and they didn't

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>want to take a guard in the first round, they

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<v Speaker 1>could have done what the Washington commanders did. Washington at

0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a need for a guard, and the day after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, they signed Trede Turner, a veteran free agent

0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 1>who they are very familiar with because Ron Rivera and

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Carrie when he was at Carolina. They drafted him in

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<v Speaker 1>the third round. He made the Pro Bowl five years

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they signed him to a very economical one year, three

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 1>million dollar contract the Cowboy. If the if the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>did not satisfy that need in this draft, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have been for instance, right in the market for a

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>trade turner, and so they weren't desperate to fill that position.

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.399
<v Speaker 1>They had other alternatives. That's how highly they feel about

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Smith as his eventual uh you know, being a

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.679
<v Speaker 1>guy a fixture on this offensive line maybe for the

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<v Speaker 1>next decade. And the other thing that would have happened

0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:55.360
<v Speaker 1>is they would have further entertained those trade down offers

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:57.880
<v Speaker 1>because they had them. If they were going to take

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, they could have traded down. But they found

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>out one of the teams trying to trade up to

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.239
<v Speaker 1>their spot. I believe that was the guy that yet

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>they wanted Tyler Smith. So yeah, it's like other people

0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>knew about him, uh and knew about his value at

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that point in the first round because they're looking at

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the same board basically that the Cowboys are looking at.

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.720
<v Speaker 1>They all basically have these players graded about the same

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and they saw that the next true offensive tackle on

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 1>the board was Bernard Ryman, who wound up going in

0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the third round, right, you know, And so they did

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>not have a as high you know they they were

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>which the experts going in the first round, yeah, some

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>some did. Yeah. So anyway, so that's that's the first pick,

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think after that the value picks. I you know,

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the Sam Williams thing. Guy's pretty talented pass rusher. Now

0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about playing the run, but he can

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.959
<v Speaker 1>get to the quarterback. That was twelve and a half sacks.

0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I think ten and a half in the regular regular season.

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Twelve and a half sacks. No nobody had Old Miss

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>has had that many sacks in a single season. And

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that was playing a five technique in

0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a three man front, right, And I think that you know,

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>with his hand on the ground as a four technique, um,

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he might be even more explosive there. Um so. And

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:33.360
<v Speaker 1>then maybe the steel of the draft is the third

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>round pick Jalen Tolber, wide receiver South. I started looking

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>at his stuff, and he had speed, he had catch radius,

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and he has the ability to play all three wide

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>receiver spots. And I had it on good authority of

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>someone that's seen him play multiple times that they didn't

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>understand why he wasn't a higher draft pick than twenty

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>fourth in the third round eighty eight eighty eight overall

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>couldn't understand it. So we'll keep an eye on that guy.

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>If he can come in and do what he did

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>at South End, and evidently he had some he had

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:29.360
<v Speaker 1>some bigger schools interested in him, and they came in

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>late and he had committed to South Alabama and decided

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to stick with his uh, stick with his commitment there.

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>As if you're watching on Dallas Cowboys dot Com here

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you can see some of that video of Jalen Tilbert.

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he was a late bloomer also because

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he didn't he didn't really play much his first couple

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of years at South Alabama, but then started the last

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 1>three years there. And I'm told go watch this. He

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>was at the Senior Bowl. Yes, go watch the Senior Yeah,

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>in fact, I watched it this morning. Yep, he was

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.120
<v Speaker 1>impressive at the Senior Bowl. And of course eighty two

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>catches nearly fifteen hundred yards and eight touchdowns is last

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 1>year at South Alabama six one and a quarter one

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>ninety five ran a four four nine. I've got him

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>down with a ten yards split up one forty nine,

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>which is really quick, and I'm looking to see. I

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have in my notes here the other offers that

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>he had. But yeah, he's from Mobile, Alabama and wanted

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to stay close to home and played at South Alabama.

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he also had the option then after his

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>junior season, in which he had sixty four catches for

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>over a thousand yards and eight touchdowns at the transfer portal,

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>he could have transferred to a bigger school even last

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>year and decided to stay at South Alabama. He should

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>have held out for more money. I saw I read

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a story today about the coaches wanting to fix that

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>transfer portal, to put a limit on when and when

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you can transfer, have a transfer portal season. And then

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>after they've done that, I mean they've May first was

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the deadline, right, And so that's why it came to

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a head here the last few days and why they're

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the last of the transfer portals are now coming out,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>including the pit wide receiver, right. I think they wanted

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to shorten that so college know their number of scholarships available.

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting about that, not to fully digress

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to that, the fact that it's May first is which

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>has got to be very frustrating to college coaches, is

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that's after spring ball. So you've worked with these these whoever,

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a receiver or anybody, you've worked with them.

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You've you've invested all the time into them throughout spring ball,

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they decide after after this spring game that

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be here anyway, right, and they

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>transfer someplace else. And if they do, so, if you're

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>going to do it, make it a spring break deal.

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, make it like March fifteenth, or you can

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>do it at the signing day, you know, the high

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>school signing day, which is the first Wednesday in February.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Actually that would be more fair because now they're handing

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>out scholarships. You know, Okay, I got two more available.

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Now they don't have any more available, right, make your

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>decision like they do for the NFL. You know where

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you're transferring, you know. But but then the comeback on

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that is, well, there are coaching openings that happen and

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>after signing day whatever, and I get it. Coaches are

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>free to go, so players should be free. If there's

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>no there's no scholarship limit on coaches. He hire as

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>many as you want whenever you want. These guys. You

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>only have what twenty five a year, yeah, eighty five

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>to eighty five total. Yeah, there's no limit on your coaches.

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's a there's a deadline on when those renew

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>so at the renewal date, that's when the transfer portal

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>needs to be settled. Yeah, there you go, all right,

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, all right, So we will come back

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and dive into the rest of these nine picks the

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<v Speaker 1>you have a late night last night? I bet you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. You were watching hockey, aren't you? Oh you're frustrated? Yes?

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>What frustrating? You only have to watch the first period?

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Well it got better than that. All the score didn't

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>change goal right, one goal. The end of the first

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>period was heated, Yes, there was. Should you how long

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>they had the rule about the second fight. I didn't

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>realize that there must be a new rule. You're you're

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a hockey game? Yeah, I forgot got talking about? Is

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>two players? Uh? It was Klingberg for the Stars and

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Anderson for Calgary were ejected from the game because they

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<v Speaker 1>had Well, no, it was the second fight. Second fight

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is with the way they termed it, and by a rule,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>they're ejected from the game. Maybe that rule is so

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>good that they don't do it anymore. Yeah, I was thinking,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what, that is a great idea. There's a

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>fight that breaks out and then you go find the

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>best player on the other team and you pick a

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>fight with it the game getting out of the game,

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Jeff on the bench. So it's no slapshot. So and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not a hockey person at all,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if this rule may have been

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>in the books for fifty years for all I know.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>But let's say it's a new rule. That video of

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>last night's games getting getting shown to every playoff team

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>in the league. If you're a good player and a

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>fight breaks out, you go hide on the bench, skate

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>right to lay down on the ice. You know you're

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>not getting in a fight because you're getting ejected. If

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you do, there will be some head hunters looking for you.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of head hunters, and I know we're off the subject,

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>but the penalty that led to their Calgary's power play goal,

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it was for hitting the guy in the head. Guy

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>dropped his head. He was going to getting checked and

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>he dropped his head down and guy hit him in

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the head. It's like, well, that's like in the NFL,

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>right contact to the head targeting. Well, if a guy

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>drops his head after I'm getting ready to hit him,

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>this took the foul. They still call it, I know,

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's not fair. McKinney out. By the way, do

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you have an NHL cap referees cap two? I should

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>have brought in my NFL one right, uh, and then

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you'll have it late night tonight. Are you as into

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the Favericks as you are the Stars? Yes? I didn't

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>give up on them either, Okay in the first game.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Is this a must win to night for the Mavericks

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>playing at Phoenix? It would help although they haven't won there.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>How many years? Nine nine, I was gonna nineteen, it

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was twenty and eighteen, I think, okay, yeah, like eleven

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve straight eleven, Yeah, I think that's what it is.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And that have you've seen the percentage if you lose

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the first two games of a series, what's the percentage?

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's no more than fifteen percent, like seven point

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>eight percent. Okay, So, especially when you're planning against a

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty four win team like the best team in the

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>best team for the best team in the league by

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>nine games. They're awfully good. Yeah they are, yeah so,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's nobody. And they came out with a vengeance

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in Game one, sort of like Calgary. They were like

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco forty nine ers coming on the field.

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Why are they playing with such right passion? Yes? So,

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>how much this Cowboys draft was just the makeup of

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 1>the players was based on what this organization saw from

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>its players and the postseason this year, I think I

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think quite a bit. And see the good thing was

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they they said okay, I need this

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to reach. I think what they did

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it was like a process of deduction, like okay, if

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I take this guy here, what position now is more stocked? Afterwards,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>like like the uh you know, the they were hoping

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>they could get to tight end, right, and a bunch

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of tight ends went off the board before they got

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to Jake Ferguson. But like the wide receiver, I think

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that they decided, Okay, the top ones are gone. Now

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>there's more wide receivers I can get in the second

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and third I don't have to reach for one. I

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>think what I'm getting at is the way the Niners

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>came on that field. Oh, I see what you're saying.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, you could tell that they were not only

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>ready to play, but they knew they were going to

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>win that game. Okay. When I watched the Suns against

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks the other night, okay, and Devin Booker and

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the way he was talking trash to Jalen Brunson early

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>in that game. That was after they got out to

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the league whatever. Right, the Sons have been to the

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 1>NBA Finals before, they've been down this road before. They've

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>got Chris Paul, one of the great point guards in

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the league, and Devin Booker obviously one of the best

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 1>players in the league. But Booker comes out and he's

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>at this attitude about him that we're better than you.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, Um, he goes back to the debo jukebox, right.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's almost like there's a certain that when

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you go back to the Cowboys of the nineties, you know,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>when Michael Irvin's coming on the field and Charles Haley

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and Eric Williams and they know they're gonna win this

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>football game, right, And that is something that when you're

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're evaluating players in the draft, You're you're looking

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>for players who have that look about him, and I

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.919
<v Speaker 1>think Jalen Tilbert might have that about him. The third

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>round round wide receiver. It's like these teams looking to go,

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 1>got this mosquito on my arms, Just get it off,

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>right because I know and for that matter, Tyler Smith

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>at a lower level. They didn't play at Alabama, but

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>at Tulsa, the aggression that he played with. You know,

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>there's some Eric Williams in his game. And I'll give

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you another guy too. They took Daman Clark Lsu. You know,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>alis walks on the field and their God's gift to football, right,

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'll guarantee you he has that same attitude. The

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate thing for him is that he'll start the season

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on pup and they knew that. That was like, okay,

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I've got all these fifth round picks, four of them.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>And instead of and they didn't use one to trade

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>around to, you know, maybe move up and around somewhere

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>someplace for somebody, they used it on a guy that's

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>basically another one Like, Okay, he may not help as much,

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>if at all, this year, but it's a hell of

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker that should have been taken in the second

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>or third round that we're getting in the fifth. Problem

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was and he played all last year at LSU, but

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>when he went to the combine, they discovered in the

0:36:55.920 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>very very detailed physical that he had a herniated disc

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>in his neck and that he needed surgery. And he

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>had the surgery say something about his toughness, that he's

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>able to play. You think he just didn't like and right,

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. But so they did the surgery

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that fuses two of your vertebrae together because they've got

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to remove that disc and it's quite significant, but guys

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>play after that. Darryl Johnson had the same surgery and

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>he ended up playing another season before he injured himself again.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And he said at the time he promised the doctor

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that if they did the surgery and he played football

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and anything else close to that happened, that he would retire.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And he did. And then Layton Vanderish had it two

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>years ago, same thing where they use the vertebrae together,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>so you know they're hoping it's a it's a four

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>closer to six month recovery. And if you do the

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>math for March that gets you through September. By time

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you get ready to play football, that takes up October.

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they get a a month out of them of

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>the season, a portion of the season out of them,

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and if not, it's for next year. But I I

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and maybe the use of spine is all encompassing in

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>your back. But I heard someone use the term spinal fusion.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>They can't fuse your spine together, right, they fuse the

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>vertebrae together. If they If they're fusing your the spine together,

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you got bigger problems than we're about playing football. Well,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>he ran a four or five seven at the combine

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and had a ten in seven broad jump with a

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>herniated disc and wherever his neck spine wherever it was,

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>so you know, and you watch him on film, Wow, Yeah,

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that guy he can move to the football. In fact,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I think had he been healthy throughout the draft process,

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he would have been right up there with Devin Lloyd

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>as of the first as a possible late first round pick.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the picture of him without a shirt on? Yes,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you see that. I might have put him ahead of

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Devin Wood And in fact, he had I looked at him.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even look at him because he was hurt. Yeah,

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had I looked at him, he might have been my

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hunter out of LSU. Because that was one of

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why I had Denil Hunter as a possible

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick when he came out in twenty fifteen,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because I saw him with his shirt off, said he

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>was twenty years old. I said, you know that wearing

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that number eighteen right there says a lot so special

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>number at LSU, right YEA best leader on the team

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>gets number eighteen and he wore it for two years.

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Look how strong he is. He just threw that guy

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>down like a rag doll. If you get to watch

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>this that we are seeing right now with some of

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>his highlights at LSU. But he's got makeup too. Yeah,

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what impressed me During his interview

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>with the media here after he was selected, and they

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>asked him what were his thoughts about having to have

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that surgery, and he basically said, when when I got

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>out of surgery, my first thought was on my daughter.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It's got a two year old daughter, and he said,

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and I want to make sure I can be a

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>dad and be able to do the things with my

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>daughter the rest of my life. And I thought there

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was a very thoughtful response. So we are. In fact,

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I said at the time, when the Cowboys are on

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the board with four picks in that round, I was like,

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>someone asked me, well, do you take a shot on that,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>on that player? I said, heck, yeah, it's no risk

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>in the fifth round when especially when you got four

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fifth round picks, right, Heck, yes, take him, yeah, absolutely,

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and there's okay, they took a tight end

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth Jake Ferguson and all Cason. And so

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the interesting on Ferguson is that and we all can

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>see the Cowboys roster and we know that there was

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>a need for a second tight end. And then if

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you when you look at the salary situation, the contract

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of your starter Dalton Schultz, and he's the franchise player,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and you've got decisions to make on signing him long term,

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and really it boils down to that, Okay, he's on

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the one year, ten point nine million dollar franchise tag

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 1>right now, but if you're going to sign him long term,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>do you want him another option in case he wants

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a whole whole lot of money. Right, He's

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get a whole lot of money regardless. And

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so here was what I was hoping the Cowboys could

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>do at the outset of the draft, was like trade

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>down a couple of spots, five spots whatever in the

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>first round, pick up another top hundred pick, Okay, so

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that you've got four top one hundred picks. Obviously they

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't comfortable doing that, and it was prudent on their

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>part to stay where they were in order to get

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy that they wanted. Okay, Then at that point,

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you've got to make the decision. After you make your

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>three picks and you haven't satisfied that tight end need

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that you have, is it worth it to move number

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>your fourth round one twenty nine and take a pair

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of your fifth round picks, Because that's what it would

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have taken in order to climb back into the third

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>round and say draft of Jeremy Rucker at the tight

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>end from Ohio State or Kate Dotton who went the

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>first picks of the fourth round of Tampa Bay. I

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>think that had crossed their mind and and so, and

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it probably crossed their mind going into Saturday if Kay

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Dotton was still their ten picks into the fourth round,

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>where it only cost you a one fifth round pick

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to move up, then they might have might have done that.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.919
<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, and you look at Tampa Bay's draft,

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I believe Tampa Bay had traded down and they picked up.

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>They did with Jacksonville. That's how they got that first

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>pick in the fourth round. And so they probably had

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>it on their mind that's where they would get a

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>tight end. And sure enough, because that was the sweet

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>spot for tight ends if you weren't the first tight

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>end went off in the second round, and I think

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys probably were interested in Tray McBride, but they

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>had a greater value on the pass rusher Sam Williams.

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 1>And then they had a great value on the wide

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 1>receiver Jalen Tilbert. And so now if you're if you're

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at the needs that the Cowboys had offensive line,

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:04.479
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher, slash wide receiver, were your top three needs

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 1>in this draft, right? And probably fourth on the list

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>would be maybe tied end. And we're talking at this

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>point the second tight end, right, the second tight end,

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and um, and if you tell me they lost that

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>playoff game because they didn't have a second tight end,

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably laugh. But it's still valuable but they need

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>right right, But in the pecking order, and and and

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>then the way you've got and I don't know how

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they had their their tight ends ranked, but we can

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>assume that Rutgert and Aughton were up there, Charlie Kohler

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>was another one, Ferguson was another one. Um James Mitchell

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>might have been another one. Uh, And so dulcet to Ucla,

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if more of a receiver than any

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, they would they like a guy, especially as

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a second tight end who can be an inline blocker

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>as well. And you know, did a lot of that

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, and they didn't throw the ball much to

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the tight end because their wide receivers were so good.

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a great future as a receiving

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>tight end himself. And so so anyway, that was the

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>choice they had to make, and they decided not to.

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>And had they done that, then they probably wouldn't have

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>them own Clark, right if they had traded trade fifth

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>round fifth to move up right exactly, they wouldn't have

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>had the luxury to be able to take an at

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>risk player in the fifth round like that. And so

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>then it came down to tight ends and Kohler went

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>before Ferguson, and I think I don't know which one

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they had ranked higher, but they were happy to get

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>either one of them at that point. Yeah. Absolutely. Her

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Big John Ridgeway, Well, there's a guy that

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>started forty games at Arkansas, and I mean they need

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a big, old guy in the middle of their defensive line, right,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they lost Brent Urban and they had

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>not filled that need in free agency, and so Ridgeway

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is right there in the hunt, you know, with the

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>big guy from last year, Bohannon, you know, and they

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>resigned him, Carlos Watkins. Yeah. So you know what I

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like best about him. They call him Big John. He's

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>big six five three twenty one. Uh. And I like

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what uh Will McClay said about him. He knows who

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he is. He's he's a big guy that's going to

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>play the run technique and he's got to do the

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>dirty work inside basically to help stop the run. And

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>so if he's a first and second down defensive tackles,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>so be it. Right. That's where you take that player

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>in the fifth round, right or Bohannon last year it

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 1>was in the sixth round. Sixth round yes. So that's

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>where you you take a guy who's not a three

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>down player for you, and and and he's fine with it, right,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna pout like, oh, I don't get the

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>rushed the quarterback. He knows he's in there to stop

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the run and take up space and take up blockers.

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought that was a pretty good value

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 1>there at the at that pick, which was one seventy

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>eight overall. All right, we need to take a break

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.600
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<v Speaker 1>on John Ridgeway. It wasn't all at Arkansas his forty

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>career starts. He was at Illinois State for four years,

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>red shirted in twenty seventeen. So I'm reading it now

0:49:57.160 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>out of my big green notebooks. See how accurate Bill is?

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Because when I heard that, I go, I don't think

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 1>that's right, And then I said, no, Bill knows what

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about. Twelve games, eleven starts at Arkansas last year.

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>He actually last calendar year played sixteen games because he

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.280
<v Speaker 1>was at Illinois State and they played a spring schedule

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, so he's already played an NFL season, Mickey.

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. There he's ready. That's why they

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>call him Big John. Yeah. Remember that. Now, there you go.

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:28.879
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we're going to get a chance

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to see these guys next week because the Rookie Mini Camp.

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>The guys start coming in on Thursday up next week

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and then Friday, Saturday, Sunday is the rookie Mini camp.

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, we have not talked about Matt Wood. Let's

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>go tackle from North Dakota fifth round pick. I like

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>drafting an offense. I can't tell you that I've watched

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.919
<v Speaker 1>him play, but I like taking an offensive lineman there

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, really, you look at the at the

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>depth now on the offensive line, and let's just say

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Smith even though he'll work summit left tackle, summit

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>left guard when Tyrant is not getting the full reps

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.320
<v Speaker 1>in practice because he doesn't need to because he's a veteran.

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, So you've got a guy in him who

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:17.720
<v Speaker 1>can play inside or outside. And then obviously at right tackle,

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got Terrence Steele, and you've got Josh Ball fourth

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>round pick last year, and now you throw in a

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>fifth rounder this year and Matt will let's go as

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>another tackle, and so there's good competition there inside. You

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>know the other thing, Yes, and I think Jerry might

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>have mentioned it. He said that this guy is capable

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of playing right or left and that this just might

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>supersed having to sign a veteran swing tech. Definitely. I

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>think that's they think this guy can step up, whether

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 1>it's well, let the combination of what let's go in ball.

0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>They do not have to sign a type yak your

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>camera irving type player this year. Now you look inside though,

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's still the backup center. They seem to like

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Matt Farneyoch, the seventh rounder out of Nebraska from last

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.720
<v Speaker 1>year and his progress in the offseason programm and so forth.

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.919
<v Speaker 1>You've got obviously Beadish is your returning starter at center,

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and you get Zach Martin at right guard, and you

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>hope that the twenty one year old first round draft

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>pick is going to be your starter at left guard

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>if he's not read you got Connor McGovern who has

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 1>started games. And so is there a need for a

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>veteran guy with center experience, because because what you're looking at,

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I could see beds. If Beotish got hurt, yeah, then

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>who's and I'm looking at game day. Okay, with what

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the way things are currently constituted on your depth chart. Now,

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you did have some some rookie free agents that they

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>seem to like that they signed a couple of them

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Boston College and James MPs as well from BYU. Okay,

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>so those are a couple of guys who could be

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in the mix. But again they're college free agents. So

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>do you need a veteran interior offensive lineman at a

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>veteran minimum salary to come in? Who has who has

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>started games at center and they need they need the

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>next veteran Joe Looney, somebody a capable of guards center?

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Or can Connor McGovern learn how to play center this offseason?

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Is is that a project for OTAs? I was hoping

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to learn how to play guard? Well, now you've got

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 1>your guard, but you need back though. Yeah, I mean

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like the same deal. That's the reason

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that Connor Williams was snapping in preseason games last year.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I tried to explain that to somebody and they just wouldn't.

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't because they wanted to make him the starting

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>center exactly. It was because they had to have someone

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>who could snap, and especially on your game day roster. Okay,

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>so let's say because you knew Williams was going to

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 1>be active. Because let's say you've got it right now,

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:18.240
<v Speaker 1>your depth chart, I mean, backup guys on your offensive

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>line who have snapped, who have who've played center. I

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>mean Connor McGovern was at a game or two in college,

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe at Penn State, I don't remember, like maybe his

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Matt farniok's the only year. Yeah, no, no, right, And

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>so you would have to make farneyok, has got to

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>be on your active roster on game day the way

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.760
<v Speaker 1>things are currently put together. And he was a former

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>guard that they moved to center, so maybe he can

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>do both. But you're right, that's exactly that's exactly the

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 1>situation they're in right there. And and then the other

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>guy we didn't talk about, Bland corner. I like his tape, Yeah,

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and you need you need depth there and special teams, right,

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that's how he would make this. And and by the way,

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.799
<v Speaker 1>much like Ridgeway who was at Illinois State and then

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>played his last year in Arkansas, Deron Bland was at

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento State and played this last year at Fresno State,

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>which may have been a reason why he was not

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>on the so called experts mock drafts and was a

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>late bloomer as far as the draft process goes, right.

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And then the linebacker they took in the sixth round,

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Devin Harper, they just needed linebackers. They needed linebackers, a

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:41.479
<v Speaker 1>guy that can play special teams and again and try

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:47.919
<v Speaker 1>to make the team that way, because you know, if

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 1>assuming Demon Clark doesn't help the depth this year, they

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>needed some extra help before we finish here. One of

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the undrafted free agents that I thought we should spend

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>at least a minute on, Okay Jonathan Garabay. Oh the kicker.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 1>They got him a kicker they didn't have to use

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a draft choice out of Texas Tech. He is accustomed

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<v Speaker 1>to kicking in windy conditions. And now that gives them two.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean they don't find somebody else. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about this during the draft, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a veteran kickers probably released somewhere awarding

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<v Speaker 1>the line. And the next day two of them right Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>They drafted Cade York, the prosper kicker. They drabbed him

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth round, and so they released Chase McLaughlin

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<v Speaker 1>and the unfortunate name for a kicker, Chris blew It.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes on Monday. I don't even just a connotation there

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<v Speaker 1>because if he misses one, I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>that headline. Yea, Chris blew It. But somebody also come around.

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<v Speaker 1>But this guy he made fifteen of sixteen for Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Tech this last year. Is only miss was from fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three and he did hit the game winner sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>yards against Iowa State and that qualified Texas Tech for

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl game, so there was amount of pressure on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also hit two field goals. He only kicked

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<v Speaker 1>three games for Tech in twenty twenty and in against

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor when they won twenty four twenty three, he hit

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<v Speaker 1>four field goals. The third one was with four minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to go in the game from forty six and then

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<v Speaker 1>the game winner. Another walkoff was from twenty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>to beat Baylor that year and the final score was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four twenty three, and he made four field goals. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't ask me how they got to what happened

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<v Speaker 1>on those two may He missed an extra point. He

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<v Speaker 1>might have missed two extra points. I think he missed

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<v Speaker 1>I think they might have gone for two one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he missed one because he was one for

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<v Speaker 1>two on okay, on extra points in his career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are we've seen. We've seen enough missed extra

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<v Speaker 1>points around here. That's why that guy's with the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So anyway, you know, he's got a strong leg.

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<v Speaker 1>And again the reason a lot of people didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about him. He two years of juco at Riverside City College, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came to Tech and greatest kicker in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the NFL. Who is it Texas Tech? No, no,

0:58:56.600 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Justin Tucker. Yes, yes, yes, yes, college freezy got

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<v Speaker 1>the best college free agent, right, Dan Bailey college free agent? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you're not drafting a kicker, Mickey, Right. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have drafted nine of them during their their days.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, who's the best one but they drafted?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it and have it for us next week

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<v Speaker 1>here on match. I have him in my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the only two that made it were David Bieler

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully best Nick Folk, and they weren't the best

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>well Nick Fole. I mean, if you're going to compare

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Folk versus David Bheler, I'll take Nick folks actually

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<v Speaker 1>and still kick in this league. Nineteen eighty six, they

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<v Speaker 1>used a fourth round pick on a kicker, Max because

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they were worried that Raphael Sept the Ends back was

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>going out, and so they said, well, we better get

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<v Speaker 1>a kicker, and then Sept the End beat him out

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and Zendaias ended up kicking three years in the league

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay combined three years Green Bay in Washington, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. All right, Well, eventually Everson is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>show up, but we're gonna be off the air stretched

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<v Speaker 1>out to sixty five minutes, all right, So he goes

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted again. Yes, all right, So that does it for

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of mix Shots. And we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>at our regular time next Thursday at eleven thirty, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you then go rookie Minicamp. There you go.

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