WEBVTT - Mets Lose Series vs Brewers, Zac Thornton Dominates, Freddy Peralta Stinks | 592 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:01.880 What is up? Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.200 of the Mets, the podcast series lost to the Milwaukee Brewers, 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.440 best team in baseball record wise. Mets played a weird one. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.840 I mean, it's the twenty twenty six Mets. The experience 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:12.760 of watching this team will always be an up and 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.920 down and shockingly, we have a lot to talk about, 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.319 because of course we do. This is the New York Mets. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:20.040 Before we get going into it, make sure you are 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.000 subscribed to the channel over on YouTube. Appreciate you guys. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.880 Hit that sub button so you don't miss out. Big 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.920 shot out to our members who get access to the 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.120 episodes early on YouTube. If you're listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.240 Google drops right and drops review, download and subscribe. Man, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.440 I mean, just rip the band aid off real quick 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:38.960 with this one, James. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.720 Just as a bad team playing a good team. The 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.040 good team won two of the games. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.840 Yeah, and it started with Freddy Peralta being unfathomably bad, 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.160 about as bad as he's ever been in his entire 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:55.360 career he has. It's really still shocking considerably, been going 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.680 on like a month and a half now of like 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.760 bad performance after bad performance after bad performance. I still 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.440 can't believe Freddy Perlta has ended up being this bad 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.920 as a New York Met. No, it's shocking, it's sad. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.880 Like I was trying to go through the disappointment roll 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:09.960 decks in my head of Mets acquisitions, who've been even 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.360 close to this bad as Mets when they had when 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.000 the expectations were even somewhat high and deservedly high. But 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.240 people have been arguing about this a lot on Twitter 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.000 about how this is like this really underscores all the 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.240 problems with the Mets and David Sterns. I really can't 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:24.840 see that for the life of me, this guy had 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.640 a three four ERA for a half of a decade. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.240 I think it was a three two eight ERA for 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.679 half a decade before coming here as like one of 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.240 the ten or so most productive pitchers in the league 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.480 twenty five or so votes, Yes, I hung votes, one 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.280 of the twenty five or so best pitchers in the league. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.040 And this is like deployably bad. And this isn't even 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:41.720 like normal bad. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.720 This is like Cooper Pratt and Joey Ortiz hitting missiles 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.920 off you bad. Yeah, it was not a good homecoming 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.360 for Freddy, so much so that like people down in 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.720 the league are talking about, like, U, what is the 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.360 actual value on Freddy Perlta, Because if he pitches like this, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.960 he's not a playoff pitcher. Teams definitely are gonna have 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.360 to talk themselves into find the problems right now with 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.160 Freddy and how they can fix it, because it's just 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.440 it is kind of crazy the fall off that he's had. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.200 And shout out again to all the Monday morning quarterbacks saying, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.240 how you know you said this is an organizational problem? 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.799 How how did they think that Freddie pelt is gonna 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.760 be good? Another guy that can't handle in New York. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.120 It's just that the pitches are horrible, Like he's just 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.359 become a worse version of himself for a guy who 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.000 we thought was actually consistently good, there's now that question. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.239 And I as much as we want to blame David 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.960 Stearns for the shortcomings this season, who saw Freddy Praulta 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.160 being this bad? Who's like if Freddy prolt was a 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.640 four ra pitcher, the Mets would be significantly better than 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:38.680 they are right now. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.360 And it's funny the Freddy Praulta asker to start on 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.480 June third, he had I think it was a three 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.720 six or three eight era. Yeah, and this has happened 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.840 this quickly, and even this start like it was really 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.080 now the fastball just getting pieced, like completely destroyed. He 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.200 also couldn't locate it. It was either down the middle or 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.360 missed the plate. Freddie Prault in this game, he threw 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.720 eighteen first pitch fastballs to the twenty six hitters he faced. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.600 Only six of them were strikes. That's impossible. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.480 A thirty three percent first pitch strike rate with his 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.280 fastball doesn't make any sense. And like I've said, the 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.160 last few starts, like it actually has felt like there 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.799 are moments where Freddy's breaking ball consistency has improved lately, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.960 But now this fastball command is so bad that doesn't 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.000 even matter anymore. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.240 Slider was getting pieced up. It was not looking good 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.280 against the Brewers. It felt like every time that he 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:27.959 was giving up a big shot, it was off of 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.520 the slider. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.840 It was just I thought it was all the fastball. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.320 I think all the home runs were fastballs. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.799 I think he gave up a bunch of hits on 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.520 the sliders too. Take a look at that, because the 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.160 slider was the slider was horrible. The slider hasn't been 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.480 good for a couple of starts. He's not fooling anybody. Yeah, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.680 it was three three hits on the fastball. I think 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.240 was one of them. The edge of Von home run, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.600 I can't remember I think what I thought there. I 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.360 just swear the edge of Von home run. Now, the 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.480 Pratt home run was definitely a slider. Yeah, I mean, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.000 it's just it's a pitch that's not particularly good right now, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.160 and it's something that Freddy perwl To obviously needs because 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.400 if you're a fastball change a pitcher from the right side, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.640 it's not typically one of the best profiles, and the 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.000 fact that the slider is not doing anything is really 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.080 hurting his value and production even more. I just I 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.200 never saw this version of Freddy Peralta happening. It's crazy. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.120 As soon as he brought up the extension talks, he 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.960 went completely south. Talk about a guy who has absolutely 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.920 nuked his off season value. He's he's not pitching, well, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.320 I don't know what his value is going to ultimately 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.960 look like it's a short term deal, prove it type stuff. No, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.000 just to confirm the Von home run was on the fastball. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.560 The Cooper Pratt home run that was a breaking ball, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.159 got it. Yeah, And it is kind of funny too 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.880 with those two home runs. The Vaughn was a home 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.760 run three of the thirty ballparks, the Pratt was seven. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.800 So again, that does feel like sometimes it is like 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.359 an avalanche falling off Freddy praulta or he's pitching horribly. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.960 Some of it's not deserve, but everything just goes wrong 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.840 every single opportunity. Yeah, and I don't know if you've 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.840 noticed this, maybe you'll watch it in the next start. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.640 Watch what he throws. It looks like he's aiming, like everything. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.600 Feel like, even when he's throwing, he's like like this. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.839 And we've you've mentioned before on various different videos we 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:01.960 do on our channels about how his extensions not as 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.279 good as in the past. It feels like when he's throwing, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.400 he's kind of just like trying to place it in there. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.279 It looks like at times rather than like coming through 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.320 and really throwing hard, which would also make sense with 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.080 the extension issues. Yeah, it also felt weird. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.200 For him being back in Milwaukee to a degree, like 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.160 just spent his whole career there, came up with them, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.480 and then like the kind of sad ovation he got 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.600 when he left the mound after pitching really really poorly. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.560 It was just it was kind of like a surreal image. Yeah, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.279 I'm sure it wasn't one of his best memories ever 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.040 in that ballpark, for sure, No, but they probably actually 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:32.839 one of the worst. They gotta be up there for 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.760 the worst. Now, it's just it's just sad. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.080 And again, like this series, you're watching Cooper Pratt, Joey Ortiz. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.800 Like Joey Ortiz owns the Mets. That guy has got 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.159 our number. Jo Ortis took over the game on Wednesday. Defensively, offensively, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.039 was unbelievable. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.279 I was just this is just and it felt much 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:50.880 worse on Monday than it wound up being the rest 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.880 of the series. They were closter games like this was 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.280 Misowski for only four innings against this version of Freddy Peralta, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.479 but just felt like one team was there to play 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.240 baseball and one team was there because they had to 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:00.960 play baseball. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.440 He was so dominant, The Brewers had such a commanding 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.440 leader on this game that the Brewer they just decide 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.200 four for Mizraowski's fine, we don't need to waste his bullets. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:08.640 Right now. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.400 The mis Rasky conversations are weird. The Brewers said they 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.920 wanted to keep him down to like seventy pitches in 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.640 this start because of how long the layoff he had 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:16.960 they had to rebuild him back up. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.200 They also mentioned too during the broadcast that they don't 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.320 want to misstarts with him, that they still want him 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.760 to pitch every five days. Yeah, so a lot of this, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.200 Like I think Pat Murphy said it, that they want 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.760 him to still go out there every single day to 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.680 keep rhythm, but they're gonna very very strictly monitor his 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.800 pitches moving forward. And in a game where you have 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.280 a seven run lead or six run lead very early on, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.599 I feel like that's a pretty good time to take 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.960 your ace pitcher out in a game that you're guaranteed 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.719 to win. Basically, Yeah, again. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.800 Thirteen days between those starts from Mizrawski. Very weird situation 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.839 right now, but they're just they know more than we do. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.280 They're gonna nurse him right to the top of their 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:52.799 playoff rotation. He's unbelievable. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.480 It was also infuriating to see just how the Mets 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.080 bats had nothing against the bullpen as well. Like Craig 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.200 Joho is a good guy. But then like even Lance McCullers, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.200 I know, we've got a couple runs off. He put 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.039 it together against McCullers a little bit. It's just struck 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.720 out four guys like, oh totally. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.039 It's just never close enough to actually make this game 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.560 really feel like anything was going on. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.160 No none whatsoever. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:12.400 It was. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.440 It was a bad game, to put it simply. God, 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.160 Freddy has an ERA over five. Oh, he's the worst 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.320 pitcher in baseball this year, I think qualified. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.800 Pitcher, no qualified pitchers. We have Jeffrey Springs, Aaron Nola, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.880 and future Met Mitch Keller. Keller actually might have gotten 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.520 below Freddie's e RA today. Does he have the highest 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.280 whip then I feel like he has something that's the 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.680 highest live stats full season, because I think Keller pitched 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.440 today on Wednesday, Yeah he did, so Keller went. Actually 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.200 now he has a four to nine, but Meryl Kelly 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.880 got hit hard, so now he has a five to one. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.200 So fred Caralt still the fourth highest ERA among all 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.240 qualified pitchers. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.520 Just never in my life thought that he was going 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.000 to be this bad for the Mets. It is going 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.800 to go down some way somehow as one of the worst. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.720 David sertains trade and litany of bad trades, and the 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.480 whip was the highest in the league heading into playing Wednesday, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.520 but the bad Meryl Kelly start has pushed it higher. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.600 That will do nice him and Meryl Kelly. Yeah, it's terrible. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.320 It's just really bad. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.640 Even like Sierra stat that's supposed to be like a 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.960 little nicer to this version of Freddy PERALTI still on 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.120 the bottom thirty in the league about he's twenty second highest. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.040 You think it's turning his trade value, because I do. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.760 I think now it's gone on so far turning his 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.240 trade value. But I still think that once we get 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.000 into the throes of the deadline to starting pitcher who's 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.200 been streaking in the past, who I'm sure teams are 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.240 gonna convince themselves they can help in the short term. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.360 I still think the Mets gat like a fringy top 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.240 hunch of prospect for him at least and then probably 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.880 one lottery ticket with it. Hope, so need something back 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.800 for him. I think we will get something back fro him. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:34.160 I'm excited. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.040 We're gonna interview Robert Murray and it's gonna come out 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.760 to you guys on Friday, So we're gonna ask him 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.400 very openly, like how much does this short term lack 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.600 of success to be very mild about it with Freddie 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.400 Perl to hurt his actual trade value to the deadline. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.199 Yeah, he's giving us some really good stuff for trades 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:47.600 in the past. So excited to hear what he has 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.280 to say about this Mets team next next day, let's 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.760 talk about the game that the best win much better 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.760 for nothing win against Brandon Sprote who Brandon Sproke came 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.720 out ready to pitch. He was like, what if I 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.360 throw one hundred on every single fat Granted didn't pitch 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.800 that well. He walked a bunch of guys give a 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.000 bunch of hits. Wasn't the sharpest, but he was definitely motivated. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.079 Shout out Zach Thornton, though no more Zach Zac. H 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.320 dropped the H. Zac. He said he's always felt like 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.720 he was a ZAC. Never understood why the H was there. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.400 Loved to hear that from my left handed pitcher. What 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.480 is with lefty pitchers just being like on another planet 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.360 at all times? 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.360 I think lefty pitchers are I don't know he get 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:24.760 the advantage of the lefties. I feel like they have 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.160 the advantage all the time, especially Thornton right now, he's 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.760 just on such a roll. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.319 I can't eat such a. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.240 Heather Good reporting by Laura Albany's Newsday about why Zach 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.760 Thornton dropped the h and like Mark said, he always 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.400 didn't like the agent's name anyway, but he said, no 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.600 one asked him before, and now they actually asked him 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.120 at the major league levels. I guess that was also 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.000 kind of like a mental moment of like, oh, I'm 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.600 actually gonna stick on this team now, which is cool 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.360 after being up and down the first part of the season. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.000 And he was like, yeah, I didn't want the HO. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.760 I took the h off, which again very funny. He 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.240 also mentioned a drill in that interview with Laura that 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.480 him and his dad would throw ninety foot ballpens when 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:58.800 he was in high school or like at this I 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.040 think she's in between thirteen fift teen years old. His 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.520 dad was like, if you can throw strikes from ninety, 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.080 he'll be very easy to throw strikes from sixty. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.760 I'm in if you could. If you could dodger wrench, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:07.520 you could dodge a ball. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.760 It's exactly how that felt to me. But another six 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.360 ding star, another star of just manipulating. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:12.920 The heck out of that color. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.640 So this was three starts for Zach Thornton where he's 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:17.560 completed six inns. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.400 That's crazy, that's more than fred Pralton now right, it's close. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.680 So Freddy Perlt has done so six times and twenty 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.400 one starts. Shalman and I has done it twice in 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.600 seven starts. Clay Holme's done it four times and nine 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.439 starts normal clean leadsway. I think he's done it like 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.760 twelve or thirteen times, and Christian Scott still has not 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.120 completed six innsach. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.720 Zach Thornton, though, he's got you and gets his first 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.840 major league win two in this one, which is always nice. 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.280 She should have gotten that Sunday, but the Francisco Indor 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.160 error costs that. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.440 But still he's just he's fun. I think. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.400 Now this is an interesting time though, for a guy 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.920 like Zach Thornton breaking out, where we have to contain 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.400 ourselves to being like overtly excited, like I see every 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.560 single twenty twenty seven Mets rotation prediction. I've seen something. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.000 Zack Thorton's has the number three starter. We have a 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.680 long way to go before that comes. But I do 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.280 think Zach Thornton is is showing a lot of the 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.839 things that's very important of like a back end star 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.400 than a guy who can stick when we're still just 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.839 kind of waiting for him to take more steps to 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:07.840 show he can be that guy. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.000 For all the underhood stuff. Right now, the results phenomenal 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.240 under the hood, we need more. Yeah, not the same 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.280 type of picture, but like this, he's doing what we 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.240 were hoping our other lefty that was in this rotation 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.080 was gonna do this year, which is David Peterson, which 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.319 is like, really, just give you a quality starts. That's 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:22.840 what you need out of a guy like Zach Thorn. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.680 He's not gonna be an ace, He's not gonna be 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.560 a cy Young Award winner, but if he can, you 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.240 can make a great career out of being a really 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.240 good major league picture like he has been so far. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:31.959 Oh for sure, he'll be around forever. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.640 I love the fact that, like I said before, he 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.200 just he manipulates that color well, he's comfortable on both 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.880 sides of the plate. He can kind of also change 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.880 the depth of it at times to make it kind 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.120 of like two different pitches, which I like he broke 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.079 off some nice ones where it was like two different 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.600 colors in the same at back to Jackson Chorio to 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.200 basically close his start in the sixth inning. He only 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.719 faced Chorio and Terank third time through. I feel like 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.839 Andy Green really wanted him to get through that sixth 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.640 inning and that there was like a ton of stress 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.080 around that. It felt like he was good to do it, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.079 but it was cool to see him mix a match. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.800 I liked as Villa was up a good bit too, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.280 because his cother was over eighty eight in this game. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.040 It's average about eighty seven in the Major League this season. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.720 Everything was up a tick mostly. I like seeing him 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.040 mix in a couple of change ups, a couple of curveballs, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.400 more sweepers. He's going to need to have lots of 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.240 junk to make this all work long term, so the 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.920 more that keeps happening the better. And we're seeing a 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.959 lot of good short term growth here from Zach Thoron. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.520 Yeah, super excited again. Keep him in that rotation the 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.480 rest of the year. Let's see what the young kids got, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.199 because he's been pretty good so far, and then offensively 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.840 in this one. Ah, did you see you share? Buddy? Francisco, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.640 lindoorhes that hope ye a start with there. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.679 James was still seven after Wednesday, though after Wednesday it 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.360 was because he got a hit in his last that bat, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.080 didn't he Lindor, it's seven thirteen. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.160 It was actually higher or it's higher seven thirteen. So 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.600 do you think you still think he ends the season 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.440 eight hundred? I think they're pretty close to it. Yeah. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.360 I mean he's played forty games and he's, from what 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.439 we've been told by others, the worst forty games ever. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.120 You would think that friends to school Indoor did something 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.400 to your family based on how everyone talks about how 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.679 he played. But through forty games, he's a league average hitter. Yeah. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.360 I got a pretty good feeling that the guy who 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.400 does this every single year that he's been a met 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:12.560 we'll do it again. Yeah. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.520 We did a lot of yapping about Lindor and all 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.760 the murmurs and the rumors and the chat there on 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.520 the last episode. So thank you guys off for sporting 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.560 that last year. He came out and said they like 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.280 we said podcut direct apologies by me. When I edited 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.800 that episode uploaded, I didn't realize how full the storage 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.800 was on my computer, so an export that I was like, well, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.439 it's gone to YouTube fast, and then I shot my 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:31.760 computer and went to bed because it was like one 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:32.959 in the morning, and I was like, ah, I like 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.360 upload seventeen minutes of the podcast. So that went up 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.920 neon the next day. So apologies to you guys, but 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.679 I just it's kind out of control. We can't talk 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.680 about every episode. Probably talk about it a lot with 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.680 Robert next. But it's just nice to see him play 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.839 good baseball, and I think he does tons of good 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.480 baseball left in him. It's not really much of a 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.480 concern from my end about it. No, he's still like 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.800 definitely rusty in the field. He even had that awkward 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:53.960 play in that. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.880 Was Wednesday the days yeah, and Wednesday's game, well, he 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.720 had a couple of awkward plays with like the jumping 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.559 on the kind of soft liner where he jumped a 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.760 little bit too early. I don't know if it was 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.760 Contraras or Churio hit it, the awkward play with Marcus Simian. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.240 It feels very much like it's still spring training for 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.280 Francis School and doors. That is not an excuse because 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.200 it's the regular season. You want him to play at 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.280 the one hundred games in yeah, at the top level. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.320 But right now for him, it feels like he's still 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.480 in spring training mode a bit. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.280 And not an excuse, but it's just sometimes players have 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.160 seasons that just don't go their way, and this just 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.880 feels like it's one of those, fella door And I 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.400 still feel like a lot of the numbers will be 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.120 okay by the end. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.640 But looks pretty good in this game. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.480 In game two, yeahy, everyone kind of look god in 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.880 this game. But everyone he felt like they showed up 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.320 to play. I mean, Louis repair at the home run 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:35.760 around the world four fifty. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.680 Do you guys see that? Guardians? You see that? Phillies Braves, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.160 You guys see what this guy can do? Unbelievable? Hither 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.720 you wouldn't you want to catch lighting in a bottle 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.720 like this? Yeah, I mean, listen, we'll take some of 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.800 your prospects. Taking prospects. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.560 It's funny that for all the horrible decisions David Stearns 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.840 has made, somewhere in his faults, I'm definitely his fault 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.960 probably can get a successful arbitrage on Louise Robert Jr. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.680 That and also for all the horrible decisions that have 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.640 been made in trades, all that kind of stuff. Probably 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.960 gonna have some of the most impactful players traded at 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.360 the deadline by any team. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.760 Yeah, there's also one of the last times you're going 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.280 to get to see the Mets bullpen just be lockdown 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.880 between Beaver, Raley and Devin Williams having a nice clean 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.440 return to a to Milwaukee, which was funny. But Weaver 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.840 and Raley just so free and easy as relievers. We 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.840 saw again with minter Aro on Wednesday, we get to 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.520 finish his frame. But these guys are really gonna be 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:25.760 parts of the playoff race night. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.280 I wish I wish them so well for that. I 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.600 think the Mets ever considered trading Jared Young. I mean, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.920 does he have any value? I think he does. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.440 Jared Young is I think why like the on the 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.680 twenty the eighties scathing scale, like the forty five exists. Yeah, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.880