1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: dot Com, part of the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: another episode of the Giants Subtle Podcast. John Schmalkin Lance 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Medal with you. Today's guest former Giants quarterback David Carr, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: now at the NFL Network. Before we get to David, everybody, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: here's a reminder. 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Inside Training Camp live coverage airs throughout the 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: week on NFL Network starting each day at one pm. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Easter and I saw David on that show, I believe 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: on Monday. If I'm not mistaken, David, first and foremost, 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. And I help you 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: in the family when in your world is safe and healthy. 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: And what's been a very difficult year. Yeah, thank you appreciated. 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. It's been uh, it's been 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: different for everybody actually, as you guys will know. So 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: off season's been different. We're just all trying to figure 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: out together. So see what happens. Yeah, it's absolutely all 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: you can do. We will had you on today, David, 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I thought you'd be a perfect guy to talk about 29 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones too, and kind of what a unique situation 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: he's heading into a second year in with a virtual 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: off season, new coach, new system. You know what it's 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: like to play in New York. So I want to 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: start here first to set a baseline. What was your 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: evaluation of Daniels twenty nineteen season as a rookie. I 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: really liked what I saw from Daniel. I mean going 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: all the way back to his his day in college 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: and then covering him for you know, his time as 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: he was preparing for the draft, watched his pro day. 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I thought he had the best pro day that I 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: had seen in the last two decades from a quarterback 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: as far as where the ball place it was and 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: how he threw it and where he threw it it was. 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: It was incredibly impressive to me, so I was not 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: surprised and the Giants took him as high as they 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: did a few years back. I think the uh, the 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: really cool part as I as you look at young guys, 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: having been in that situation before, I know how difficult 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: it is to jump in there and just fully trust 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: you know the offensive line and the things that are 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: happening around you, and really dial into what your read 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: is and where to go with the football. And I 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: thought Daniel since he's been in there, has done an 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: incredible job. Not the offensive line hasn't always been consistent, 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: as you guys will know, so it's been up and 55 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: down for him, and he's made some maybe turnover worthy plays, 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: or he's had some times where you know, maybe he's 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's not as clean as you'd like him 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: to be. But I think the biggest thing for Daniel 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: that I see um having played that position is he's fearless. 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: And Eli Manning had that same pocket mentality where he 61 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: would just almost too almost to a fault. He would 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: keep his eyes down the field, trying to let his 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: us to develop and give those guys a chance. He 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: throws his great anticipation. He really knows what he's looking 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: at when he's dissecting coverage. UM So when you really 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: study Daniel's tape, the things around him aren't always clean. 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: But if you guys can put together a solid offensive 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: line unit that was that honestly, that was with that 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: was with you know, me and Eli back in the day. 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys can find some consistency there, 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: he's going to be an incredible player because he just 72 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: has everything that you ask for as far as toughness, competitiveness, 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: understanding what he's seeing. He's rarely fooled in coverage. Um 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a great young player. 75 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: He just needs a little bit cleaner pocket and and honestly, 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: maybe even mixing a little bit with his legs. I mean, 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's got he's you know, he's got the He's 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: got a good young player, he's got a good backs. 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean they can be really creative and kind of 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: bring some of the you know, to do a lot 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: of it. But I think that if you have a 82 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: guy that can run like Daniel, I think he'd be 83 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: remiss not to involve his legs somehow in the run game. David, 84 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: you brought up the term consist and see, and I 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: think that's key in terms of looking ahead to two 86 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: thousand twenty, because when you had your second stint with 87 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: the Giants, it was you, it was Eli, and then 88 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: you still had Kevin Gilbride carrying over from your first 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: in Tom Coughlin. So you know, during the two thousand 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: eleven lockout shortened season, I would think that would be 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: extremely beneficial. You were entering a system you were familiar with, 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: individuals you were familiar with. You look at Daniel Jones. Now, 93 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: as you mentioned Jason Garrett, brand new system, brand new language, 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: some new players around him, and there's also his third 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: new offense, David, in the span of three years, which 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure is challenging for any young quarterback on any 97 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: level of football. How much is that going to be 98 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: to overcome with this current structure of an off season. Well, 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's not to the point where he's 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do it. I think that 101 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: it's just a familiarity that you have. Like think about 102 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Brady and when he was in New England, he was 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: there for two decades basically running the same offense. He 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about his audible changing. There to 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: worry abou, because that's a real thing when you get 106 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: up the line of scrimmage and you've done something for 107 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: so long, and I know Daniel hasn't gone through a 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of change early, but when you've you've gotten used 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: to an offense, you can you can roll back in 110 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: the roller decks and just pull a playoff or pull 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: up a call up, or maybe you can reference something 112 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: in a split second where if you are are brand 113 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: new to that offense, it just takes you a little 114 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: bit of time. It takes an extra tick, and you're 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: not as comfortable doing it. So it's almost like we 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: don't really have a choice. You're kind of stuck in 117 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: that position where in this next month or so you 118 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: gotta try and cram as much as that as you 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: can and make make practice really high intense, high intense 120 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: type learning and make it a mental you know, gymnastics 121 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: for him where he really has to push himself from 122 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: understanding offense. I would I would rarely go out there 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: if I was the Giants, especially with any offense, any 124 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: young quarterback and just make it to where they know 125 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: they calls, they know the coverage is coming at him. 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: You really got to push the envelope, especially this year, 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: just because you haven't had that o t a minicamps 128 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: where they can really kind of get to know and 129 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and really take ownership of that offense. I mean, Jason 130 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: Garrett is going to do a good job and put 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: together a good offense, and he's got a lot of 132 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: pieces to work with. Um, but you've gotta you gotta 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: become comfortable from a quarterback standpoint, and that only comes 134 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: with time. David, how do you think practice will be 135 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: different because it's gonna be so few of them, maybe 136 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: up to twenty The max is fourteen panic practices before 137 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: you get to the first game. Now there's no preseason games. 138 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: She's not probably gonna do any of those carded practices 139 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: where you're getting ready for opponents and stuff like that, 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: which makes it a little bit easier. But how do 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: you think they can alter practice here to make up 142 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: for the fact that this is now going to be 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: the first time they're doing an on field installation instead 144 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: of like the third time in a regular season. To 145 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: get Jones and everybody on the same page, well, like 146 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: you said, I mean, when when you're installing stuff in 147 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: training camps, you've already done it like twice before that 148 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: usually and that gives you a real comfort level as 149 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks. So you're not really doing that now. You 150 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: probably have virtually, But it's different though, when I'm sitting 151 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: in my office and I'm kind of on the on 152 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: the iPad or whatever it is, and I'm trying to 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: work through an offensive meeting with the coaching staff, I mean, 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: that's that's almost that's easy. You know, Honestly, any any 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks or if anything, is gonna be able to do 156 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: that in excel there and feel comfortable. But it's a 157 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: totally different thing when you get out there and you've 158 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: gotta look these guys in the eyes and you're in 159 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: the huddle with them, and you gotta go up there 160 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: and run and play and then split second got audible 161 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: something and get get into that flow. So I think 162 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: practice wise, kind of like I mentioned earlier, it has 163 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: to be super intense. It has to be at least 164 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: at least try to not not where it's live in 165 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback where you're hitting guys and you're taking guys 166 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: to the ground. You don't need to do that, but 167 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you can make it super competitive, and I would definitely 168 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: do that ones on ones. I would do that three 169 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: or four times where it's a legit work and guys 170 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: feel like they've gone through almost a quarter or a 171 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: half football game. So and then you give them time 172 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: to rest and recover and you can get Coaches are smart, 173 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: they'll be able to they'll be able to figure that out. 174 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: No a good pulse and the team and see how 175 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: they are physically and see how guys are advancing and progressing. Um. 176 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: But that's what I would I would almost guarantee that 177 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: coaches are gonna do is just try and simulate some 178 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: of those preseason games while still keeping everybody healthy. Well, 179 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: speaking of that subject, David, I'm curious from your experience 180 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: having a preseason game whether or not that was beneficial 181 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: to get a feel for what your offensive coordinator was 182 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: going to do in terms of play calling, the tone, 183 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: and the ability to then pass that on to your teammates. 184 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: So the fact that Daniel Jones is not going to 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: have that asset to work with Jason Garrett, whether he's 186 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna be up in the box or on the sideline, 187 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the little nuances like that. How much of a difference 188 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: do you think that could have in the early stages 189 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: of the season, given maybe the first few weeks of 190 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: the year become sort of the third or fourth preseason 191 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: game when they would have had the opportunity to go 192 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: through things like that. Yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna 193 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: be different. Um, the nuances are what you're talking about. 194 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing because in reality, preseason games, 195 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: there's you really have to struggle mentally, uh to lock 196 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: into those games because everybody knows that it's not worth anything, 197 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: and all those starters know and the veteran guys know 198 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: that this is not the end game. This is just 199 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: guys trying to get some looks and maybe some young 200 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: guys make make a team or they you know, they 201 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: show flashes and then they end up you know, developing 202 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: during the season. But that's that's hard to lock in. 203 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: So you don't have to worry about that. Now, the 204 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: next game you play is gonna be for real, it's 205 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna be full on, let's go. So you almost you 206 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: almost are really focusing on those nuances and and hopefully 207 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: it's even even more so because I think a lot 208 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: of times when you jump into that first game or 209 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: first two games, there are some like there's there's an 210 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: intensity that you're not used to in the preseason, that 211 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: you're not used to in practice, and you try to 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: simulate it. But I think that just because of the 213 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: fact that there are no preseason games, the coaches are 214 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna be kind of really focused on the fact that 215 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we hit the ground running. 216 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a big focus on making sure that, 217 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, we have a contingency plan for you know, 218 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: if a guy isn't gonna be there and everybody's getting 219 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: their reps. So I think just because there's no preseason games, 220 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be really locked in and like, you 221 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: know Billichick, because at the end of day, he's like, 222 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, college teams do this every every year. We 223 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: interviewed him for the NFL Network the day and we're like, 224 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do that preseason games? And he said, 225 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: college teams do it every year, So we have to 226 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: be ready to our player first game. So I think 227 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: that if everyone's dealing with it, it's gonna be fine 228 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: and and there and these are these are professional athletes 229 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: still figured out, but yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna 230 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a hurdle. It's just a young, young, 231 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: young coach, young quarterback with a with a with a 232 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: veteran offen sporting and how they match, you know, because 233 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: that's that's a huge relationship. And if if they can 234 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of work through some things too, um maybe speed 235 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: that process up, that would be good for everybody. You know, David, 236 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: I want to go back to your evaluation of Daniel 237 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Rookie Yo, which by the way, I thought was right 238 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: on the money, and you know kind of how he 239 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: can improve as a quarterback on the field just from 240 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: a you know, playing the position perspective, and I think 241 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: you hit it right. Like I don't want to say 242 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: he's oblivious to the rush, but but he just doesn't 243 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: care about it. So guys are in his face. He's 244 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: making great throws, but sometimes he holds it a little 245 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: bit too long. He might get hey, he might get 246 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: stripped cause a turnover, and a lot of that's instinctual, 247 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: it's processing time. It's stuff that can only get better 248 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: through experience. So as someone that lived it, you know, 249 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: how big of a jump can he take in the 250 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: processing in pocket, presence, feeling the pressure, knowing when he 251 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: has to slide, when he can stick, when he has 252 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: to move. How can a quarterback improve it those things 253 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: heading into a second year. Well, honestly he has. He's 254 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: in the best position because he he is to the 255 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: side of not being aware of it where you where 256 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: you want it, you know, because you can always bring 257 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: him back where Hey, man, okay, we don't we got 258 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: a certain amount of time. Let's find our checked down 259 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: a little bit faster here, and that's fine. You don't 260 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: want a guy to get rid of it too fast 261 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: or you know, he'll take sack or are you just 262 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: unsure of where it goes. So that's I mean, that's 263 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: stuff that I struggled with early on because we never 264 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: really got over that home where we can get a 265 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: consistent offensive line out there. So it was funny because 266 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: I would get a one set of information from my 267 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator like Okay, let's hold the ball a little bit, 268 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: let's let this route develop, and then I'd walking down 269 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: the hallway the offensive line coach would grab me and say, hey, 270 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: we gotta get blot of our hands, like what's happening here? 271 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm pointing with years old, truigure out of the quarterbacks 272 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: a fellow. You guys would give me mixed messages. Man. 273 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: So I think that what Daniel has going on, I 274 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: don't think that i'd change. I think that I would 275 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: try to speed up his processing times. And I think 276 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: that honestly, is just gonna come with playing. And the 277 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: more he plays, he's gonna understand there's a clock in 278 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: your head. Okay, I don't have this much time to 279 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: hang onto this football and wait for these guys. Let's 280 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: just dump it down to the back. Let's take you know, 281 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: let's go get second and seven and and take three 282 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: yards on a checkdown and see if we can make 283 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: something happen. So I think that's just a matter of 284 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: playing and and going through it. But but I really 285 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: like where Daniels that it's almost like when Patrick Mahomes 286 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: came out there, completely different players, and Patrick kind of 287 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: lives more on just making big plays and big throws. 288 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: But it's kind of that vain too, because he has 289 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: such a big arm. You don't have to teach that 290 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: there's not a throw he can't make. So that's the 291 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: that's the good side of it. And Daniels and the 292 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: good side of really standing there and being tough and 293 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: just keeping his eyes down the field. So you can 294 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: reign Patrick back in and kind of getting to kind 295 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of get through his reads better, get through his progression. 296 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: The same thing with Daniel, you can you can talk 297 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: him down into getting the ball of his hand faster, 298 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: find a completion, let's stay in a positive down and distance. 299 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: So that stuff is really kind of easy, and it 300 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: just takes a little a little process and time in 301 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: a little, a little time in the saddle. As you 302 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: alluded to, David, his numbers across the board extremely impressive. 303 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: But I think if there's anything that the Giants want 304 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: to see drastically improve, of course, it's seeing the turnovers 305 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: get cut down, because he did have twenty three of 306 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: them and he lost the Levin fumbles. Now, you talked 307 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: about your experience early in your career with the offensive 308 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: line and not to pour salt in your wounds, but 309 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: you know you had seasons, just so our audience understands 310 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: where you were sack seventy six times, you were sack 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: sixty eight times. So ball security was obviously a big 312 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: priority that you had to deal with, and you had 313 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, you wouldn't come back 314 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: and cost your team. What were some of the things 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: David that, aside from the mental side, that you had 316 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: to work on to emphasize ball security. That is something 317 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: that maybe could apply to Daniel as he looks to 318 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: improve in that category in year two. Well, it's moving 319 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: with a purpose. Um. I mean I I think I 320 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: still have the NFL record for most recovered bumbles and 321 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: they were mostly fine so I think I jumped on 322 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: like twenty of them one year. Yeah, those guys are 323 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Those guys are hawking at it, and you know, if 324 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: you hold the ball a little bit too long, they're 325 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna come in, They're gonna swipe at it, and you 326 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: just have to get a fuel for that. I was 327 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: talking to Derek the other day about it, honestly, and 328 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, my first year, I thought I 329 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: could step up in the pocket with kind of one 330 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: hand on it and not really worry about it. He's like, 331 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: now you literally he's in there doing bicep curls, and 332 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: he's doing different exercises because von Miller and those guys 333 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: are literally trying to rip the ball out of your hands, 334 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and the smart defenders doing the same things. And especially 335 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: if you show that you're a guy that will put 336 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: it on the ground, that's when their antennas go up. 337 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: So then it just kind of amplifies it more. So 338 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: you never want to kind of be that. So I 339 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: think early on, if I was coaching Daniel did would 340 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: be a big emphasis on when we move and we're 341 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: doing any kind of it seems like a just a 342 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: simple nothing drill. But when you're going through the individual 343 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: with your quarterbacks and you're having them swipe at the 344 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: ball and rip it out, just making conscious effort over 345 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: coach that. So he's keeping two hands on, he's sliding 346 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: and moving with a purpose. And even if you miss 347 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: one or two big plays down the field, you know 348 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: at least you're gonna be safe and you're gonna make 349 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: sure that you're hanging onto that football and you can 350 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: you can play the next down and you can at 351 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: least say it's so get a punt to you every 352 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: once in a while. You don't necessarily make the big play. 353 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: So that's just again that's a little processing thing that 354 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work through. But I think that 355 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: if you emphasize it from a coaching perspective, you get 356 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: what you emphasize, and that's what I've always found. And 357 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: so if coach comes in and he's really focused on 358 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: it right, trying the football over, we're gonna keep it 359 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: and you'll get that because these guys will will focus 360 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: on what you what you emphasize. So I think you'll 361 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: do a better job this year, David. Final one from me, 362 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: and I'll just take it from a general Giants perspective 363 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: on this one. What are your expectations for the team 364 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: this year? You know, it's a big change, young team, 365 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: new coaching staff, new scheme on both sides of the ball, 366 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: and no offseason. It's going down the list. The circumstances 367 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: are not great, but this is year three for Dave Gentleman, 368 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: year one for Joe Judge. What do you think Giant 369 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: Fed should be thinking about this year in terms of 370 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: how their team can kind of take that next step 371 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: and at least made beat in the playoff mixing, you know, 372 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: be mathematically in it around Thanksgiving. Yeah, I think that 373 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: when you look at it from honestly, what is most 374 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: concerning for me on both sides and the ball, So 375 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: I think offensive line continuity there and just making sure 376 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: you guys find you know some guys that can at 377 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: least work together throughout the entire season. Maybe they're young guys, 378 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: but I think Jason Garre will do a good job of, 379 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, designing up stuff where you can kind of 380 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: protect those guys a little bit. But I think those 381 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: young the young players in the offensive line really got 382 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: to step up in Jel and kind of just be 383 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: a group that's gonna have Daniel back and give safe 384 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: on some running lanes. And because you have some talented 385 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: guys in the skill positions, you've got a good matchup 386 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: tight end. I mean obviously the back, I mean he 387 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: can he can touch the ball four times a game, 388 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and that wouldn't be enough. So I like, I like 389 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: what the pieces that they have their the offense, lind 390 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: come alonger and the secondary is probably the other question 391 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: that I have is just you know, you got to 392 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: find a way to maybe maybe you're not gonna be 393 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: a top ten defense, you know, but that's okay. You 394 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: can be an opportunistic defense. We've had those in New 395 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: York Reform one super Bowls there, so you can find 396 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: a way to just get the ball, take it back 397 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: from the opponent, played good red zone defense, you know, 398 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: and Daniel takes another step, then you've got a team that, Okay, 399 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: these guys are scoring some points. Now the offensive lines 400 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: come along. Now the secondary if they can step up 401 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: and have some of those young guys make some plays 402 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: and and just rip the ball out like just be 403 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: ball hawks, be almost those young guys that just don't 404 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: know any better. And I think that I think you've 405 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: got a chance. I mean, I'm not I'm not saying 406 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: that they're gonna go out and in fourteen games, but 407 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of teams are in the 408 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: same both with the Giants ran right now, you just 409 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: you have a couple of holes that you need to 410 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: make sure you feel and some guys got to step up. 411 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: And if you can do that, and then there's no 412 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: reason that especially in New York, that they can't be 413 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: competing for a playoff spot every year. So especially that quarterback, 414 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I really like that. And let ta kwan, I mean, 415 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: just give you ans and he's getting to the line 416 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: of screamings about getting touched and we should be okay. 417 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to watch him play David before we 418 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: let you go. Speaking of the quarterback position, I think 419 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: this is something that not just the Giants can relate to, 420 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: everybody can relate to. Is the fear of perhaps losing 421 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback because of a COVID nineteen positive test, 422 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe the Friday before a Sunday game and Bruce arians 423 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Bucks head coaches or not. The idea of quarantine your quarterback. Now, 424 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: you've been a staughter, you've been a backup. And the 425 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is you're used to going 426 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: into a game where you get probably more mental reps, 427 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: David than you do physical reps because of the logistics 428 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: of practice. If a team wanted to quarantine a quarterback, 429 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: such as a veteran backup or somebody that is young 430 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: and youthful, how realistic is that? And how realistic is 431 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: it to expect a quarterback to be thrown into something 432 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: if most of their interaction with the team, David has 433 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: been through simply virtual means for the last few weeks. 434 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's almost impossible. Um, I think the idea. 435 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I understand the idea, and it makes sense that you're 436 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: playing Madden. You know I'm gonna go hide a guy 437 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: on the practice spot to play. We'll throw him in there. 438 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: But man, that's that'd be so difficult. I mean, football 439 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks already hard enough to come in and play and 440 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: get a field for guys when you're getting limited reps 441 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: with them an individual um, But man, I don't I 442 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: just don't know if that'd be if that'd be feasible, 443 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: because even like you said, seeing when I was backing 444 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: up Eli, I didn't get a kind of reps during 445 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: the season. I'm running mostly scouts team stuff, but I'll 446 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: throw some individual with some of the main guys just 447 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: to and we would do it, just because if I 448 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: had to play, I had to at least had thrown 449 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: these guys the past and the last couple of months. 450 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I'd get a handful of snaps with those guys you 451 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: know during the week, but did not get any of 452 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: them and just be completely type from the team and rolling. 453 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: And you'd be better off calling me. Honestly, let's just 454 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: if you guys are gonna do that all quarantine in 455 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Bakersfield out here in California. If something happens with Daniel, 456 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: you just give me a buzz. I'll get on playing, 457 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, Dave, Dave, Dave, we might because quite frankly, 458 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: you you were on what I thought was the best 459 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Giant team. I've been around in two thousand and eight, 460 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: you guys were unbelievable and you're on the last Giant 461 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: teams win a playoff game in two thousand eleven, so 462 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's not a bad idea. I M just let 463 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: me know. Yeah, you guys, just hit me up if 464 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: that happens, and I'll make a flight. I'll be funny. 465 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: I will send Dave Gentleman an email right now, David, 466 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I got you covered. Thanks Man, good David, good stuff. 467 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the time. Man. Stay safe and we'll 468 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: talk to you down the line. All right, Thanks a lot. 469 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: D alright, that's David car does a great job. You'll 470 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: find them on Twitter at d car eight. That's with 471 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: two rs. You also find them on NFL Network. 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