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Speaker 3: Welcome hang Out Just Baseball Show for Friday, September fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Peter is.

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Speaker 3: He might be making his apartment look like the Barcelona

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Speaker 3: airplane right now. Stomach bugs still just ravaging him. So

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Speaker 4: Do you hate me by now a little bit? He's

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Speaker 4: also dealing with some laptop, is Peter. Peter's going through

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Speaker 4: Good news is he's nine and four an NFL plays,

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Speaker 4: So definitely definitely tail Peter on the NFL plays. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: week from hell for Peter, week from hell for me

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Speaker 4: because I have to do three in a row with

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Speaker 4: you here. But you know we're managing. We're four Jesus.

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Speaker 4: People forget something like wishful thinking. Wishful thinking, Yeah that

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Speaker 4: the Sunday episode, but no that this is this is

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Speaker 4: good stuff, man. We got a lot of interesting topics

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Speaker 4: to get into, and unfortunately our suspicions on Schurzer were

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited. We kind of got a nice little

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Speaker 4: end of the night last night. Obviously the shows are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've got Schurzer and then another Ranger topic

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Speaker 3: We've got a Baltimore Orioles thing that we got to

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Speaker 3: It was reported by the Baltimore Banner. We haven't seen

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Speaker 4: It was an underslot. It was underslaught every pick.

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Speaker 3: Don't understand the idea of hoarding all these guys. There's

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Speaker 4: They're gonna do something. I don't know how aggressive they're

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they figuring that out. I wonder if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll already. You're right, good point, is it? Aaron Hicks?

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that in a second. I am imagine

433
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Speaker 4: they start the year next year with Bieber, and especially

434
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Speaker 4: now that he's trending in the way that he'll be

435
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Speaker 4: ready for opening day, and maybe they move him at

436
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Speaker 4: the deadline. It's not going to be the biggest return

437
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Speaker 4: since he's a rental, but we saw what some rentals

438
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Speaker 4: were able to bring in, and I think you can

439
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 4: get more for a rental who's performing then injured question

440
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Speaker 4: Mark and you get a full year of that, you know,

441
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Speaker 4: So I'm interested to see how they approach it, but

442
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Speaker 4: I'd imagine it's that Delino is performing what they got

443
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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hard in that organization.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I think they hold

446
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Speaker 4: on to him. He helps them through the first half

447
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 4: of the season, and then that rotation becomes so fortified anyways,

448
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Speaker 4: with the young guys and some of the other dudes

449
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Speaker 4: that they can bring up cash Bieber in and true

450
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Speaker 4: guardian style sell but not sell and still try to compete.

451
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what they do.

452
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Speaker 3: Best version of that rotation opening Day twenty twenty four

453
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Speaker 3: is probably Bieber Mackenzie Williams by the logan Allen, That's

454
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Speaker 3: so good. It's really good.

455
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Speaker 4: That's so good. Like I don't think people realize how

456
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 4: good Biby is. And I mean, Gavin Williams is awesome.

457
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Speaker 4: He's just gonna keep getting better and he has potentially

458
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Speaker 4: frontline upside. But Bibey has a chance to I put

459
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Speaker 4: it out, I don't have the exact numbers in front

460
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Speaker 4: of me, but he has a chance to be one

461
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Speaker 4: of the very few rookie starters to throw more than

462
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Speaker 4: one hundred and forty innings at a sub three era

463
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Speaker 4: and the group of pitchers like it was like five

464
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Speaker 4: of them and it was Jose Fernandez. It was a

465
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Speaker 4: couple like misfits and then a couple other just superstar

466
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Speaker 4: type of arms. It's it's a really special year that

467
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Speaker 4: he's having. And that's a guy that almost feels like,

468
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say forgotten, because I think people are really

469
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Speaker 4: starting to appreciate how good he is. But I don't

470
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Speaker 4: think he's regarded in the same in the same way

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Speaker 4: as some of the top pitching prospects that have come

472
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Speaker 4: up and succeeded. And he's pitching as well as any

473
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Speaker 4: of the top pitching prospects that have come up and

474
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Speaker 4: broke it in aside from you know, the the Jose

475
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Speaker 4: Fernandez madness, and you know, maybe one or two other

476
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Speaker 4: rookies in the last ten twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, here it is Bibby.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Two days ago.

479
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Speaker 3: Bibby could become the fifth rookie starting pitcher in the

480
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Speaker 3: last decade with the sub three and one hundred and

481
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Speaker 3: forty innings, Jose Fernandez, Jacob de Gram, Colin mceue, and

482
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Speaker 3: Mike Soroka, Michael Soroka. Sorry, not Mike Soroka. Yeah, I

483
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Speaker 3: mean like Soroka. Yes, you can look at him as

484
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Speaker 3: a misfit, but not really. He was amazing.

485
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Speaker 4: He was awesome. He's the only misfits really, Colin m Cue. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 4: but even he nice man, He's had a nice career.

487
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that's good company right there.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty five opening day best version of that

489
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Speaker 3: rotation Williams Bibby Allen.

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Speaker 4: I assume Beeber's off the squad.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, McKenzie off the squad.

492
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Speaker 4: He might be. I don't know what they're gonna do

493
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Speaker 4: with him. He's just I have so much concern about

494
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Speaker 4: the injuries, but I think they try to keep them.

495
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Speaker 4: So let's say McKenzie.

496
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Speaker 3: Kenzie and then, you know, pick your poison in the

497
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Speaker 3: minor leagues right now, the ghost of Daniel Espino Espino? Sure,

498
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Speaker 3: how about Cantillo? How about Will Dion, who, by the way,

499
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Speaker 3: is awesome again this year. Somehow?

500
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Speaker 4: How about Messig?

501
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Speaker 3: How about I don't know, man, there are options. The

502
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Speaker 3: Guardians just always do this with starting pitching. They're always

503
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504
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Speaker 3: get a little bit deeper into the Phillies rotation because

505
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Speaker 3: they really don't have a guy to turn to right now.

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541
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Speaker 3: go down the hatch. Let's start a football day Phillies rotation.

546
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Speaker 3: So I report on MLB trade rumors that the Phillies

547
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Speaker 3: are entertaining a move to the bullpen for Michael Lorenzen

548
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Speaker 3: right now. And if you have kind of gone into

549
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: football mode over the last couple of weeks, you could

550
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: be scratching your head and saying, wait, didn't he just

551
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: throw a no hitter? Kinda But since then he's been

552
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: really underwhelming. His first two starts were awesome, his next

553
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: couple of starts have been no bueno. So do they

554
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Speaker 3: move him to the pen to see if he can

555
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Speaker 3: work in two three inning relief roles in the postseason.

556
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Speaker 3: It seems like the answer may be yes, and they're

557
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Speaker 3: gonna run with the four of Nola, Wheeler, Walker and

558
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: Ranger Suarez. Well, they may favor Christopher Sanchez.

559
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say. Christopher Sanchez has

560
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 4: been unbelievable lately and it's weird. It's tough, and by

561
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Speaker 4: the way, I think Matt Gelb was was the reporter

562
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 4: on this, But it's just it's tough because I want

563
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: to trust Lorensen more. But at the same time, it's

564
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Speaker 4: you look at what Lorenson's done over his last seven starts.

565
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Speaker 4: It's a five two three e r A and I

566
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Speaker 4: think that that would include the no hitter. That's so

567
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Speaker 4: far in the second half, so yeah, that would include

568
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Speaker 4: the no hitter. So it's been really rough for him

569
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Speaker 4: over his last few starts. I don't trust Taiwan Walker either.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's he hasn't even had flashes as

571
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Speaker 4: good as Michael Lorenson's. And then I mean, I think

572
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: it's it's clear that Wheeler, Nola, Sanchez Suarez have just

573
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Speaker 4: been the four better arms, of course, and even Nola

574
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Speaker 4: in the second half as in Finn Gray but You're

575
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Speaker 4: gonna You're gonna live and die by Aaron Nola, of course.

576
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Speaker 4: I wonder if if Sanchez has just pretty much locked

577
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Speaker 4: himself in as the the more favorable arm second half.

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Speaker 4: He has a three six, three E or A in

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Speaker 4: sixty two innings. He's striking out nearly nine per nine,

580
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Speaker 4: so nearly about a per inning, and he's walking only

581
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Speaker 4: one and a half per nine. I mean, that's really really,

582
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Speaker 4: really good stuff. So I guess it's Wheeler, Nola, Suarez,

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Speaker 4: and then Sanchez is that fourth starter, and then Lorenzen

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Speaker 4: out of the out of the pen. I think that

585
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: that does make sense. And I think ultimately, like I

586
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Speaker 4: know that they're saying they're considering it, but I think

587
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Speaker 4: it's the right thing to do at this point.

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00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: It's probably the right thing to do, which is you're

589
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Speaker 3: not admitting defeat, because admitting defeat would be putting them

590
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Speaker 3: on waivers, like having Gilido and Rinaldo Lopez grab by

591
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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Guardians. Nick Kirby front of the program does

592
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Speaker 3: a great job on a chat box covering the Reds there.

593
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: He kind of grabbed everybody's era since the break or

594
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: since the deadline of pitchers that were moved at the

595
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Speaker 3: trade deadline, and Lorenzen's got a five to two three

596
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Speaker 3: even with that no hitter in the eight innings, a

597
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: two run ball. Flaherty's got a seven to one. Rich

598
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: Hill as a nine to two. Hill was already on waivers.

599
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Speaker 3: Savali he's got a four to three. Jamont has a

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Speaker 3: four to two, but Jamont been good. Lance Lyn's got

601
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Speaker 3: a four to six. I know he had a couple

602
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: of great starts with the Dodgers, but he's tapered off

603
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Speaker 3: since then.

604
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Speaker 4: Cindergard had a.

605
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Speaker 3: Five to four, and Giolito has an ERA over eight

606
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Speaker 3: since the trade deadline, so there really hasn't been anybody

607
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: that was good since being moved aside from Max Scherzer

608
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: who's out for the rest of the year, So it

609
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: was it was a steep price to pay. And how

610
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Speaker 3: you Lee may be really good for the Detroit Tigers,

611
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: we'll see, But having a guy like Lorenzen not just

612
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: in that bullpen, but in that clubhouse in the postseason,

613
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: I think can be really beneficial. And I know that

614
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: lorenz And has not been on any winners at any

615
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: point in his career. This is kind of like the

616
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Speaker 3: best team he's ever been on the fact that this

617
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: guy has been there, done that, and gone through pretty

618
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Speaker 3: much every single EBB and flow that a big leaguer

619
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Speaker 3: goes through in performance, I think that's really going to

620
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: help some of the young guys, like, hey, Lorenzo's presence,

621
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Speaker 3: if he's cool with it, he's going to seriously help

622
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Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And Also, this is a guy that

624
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Speaker 4: you know has experience coming out of the pen, so

625
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Speaker 4: it's not like they're throwing him into some uncharted territory.

626
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Speaker 4: And if you look at the career numbers, he's actually

627
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: been better out of the pen, So I don't think

628
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Speaker 4: it's something that you know is totally unfamiliar for him,

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned Lorenzen hasn't really pitched much in meaningful

630
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Speaker 4: playoff games and things like that. So like, I think

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Speaker 4: this is a guy that of course he wants to start,

632
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: and he wants to get the ball, but he's probably

633
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: just excited to help a team try to win the

634
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: World Series, and the Phillies have a legitimate shot to

635
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: do so. So you look at the rest of the rotation.

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Speaker 4: I think that's an important note as well, is it's

637
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: not just about who's the best starter, it's who's going

638
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: to actually be able to contribute out of the bullpen too.

639
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: And so if you have two guys that you think

640
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: are neck and neck, they might think, you know, somebody

641
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: else out of that consideration is you know, also kind

642
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: of right there in terms of what they can get

643
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Speaker 4: as a starter. I don't know what ty one Walker

644
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: looks like as a reliever, I don't know what that

645
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Speaker 4: looks like. I know that Lorenzen is a pretty solid

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Speaker 4: reliever in his career, and also in those games where

647
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: you're up big or down big, he can preserve the

648
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: bullpen be stretched out if you have to ditch your starter,

649
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: and it's an ugly game but your offense keeps seeing it.

650
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: We see those all the time. It's five to five

651
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: through two innings, Lorenzo can bridge the gap to the bullpen.

652
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: I think he's that Swiss Army Knight for them. I

653
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: like it.

654
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Ty Ranger Suarez was that guy for them last year.

655
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: And Suarez was like really good out of the bullpen.

656
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: He was nails in the postseason. Ranger fourteen and two

657
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: thirds two ear runs against him in the postseason, and

658
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: he came out of the pen twice. But he was

659
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: kind of like the starter and short leash guy at

660
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: other times in the postseason. I don't think you do

661
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: that to Ranger Suarez again, I don't think you have to.

662
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: And Lorenzo and I've heard nothing but like great guy.

663
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: He was kind of like he was a lost soul.

664
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: He went through some shit growing up. But you know,

665
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: like I feel like this version of Michael Lorenzen is

666
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: certainly more receptive to a move to help the team

667
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: win than any like young pitcher. Really like you take it.

668
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: You take a twenty six year old fireballer like Lorenzen was,

669
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: and he had the biceps of God, and like you

670
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: you say, like, hey man, we're gonna relegate you in

671
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: order to make the team better. You'd be like, oh,

672
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: fuck you, I know my worth. This version of Michael Lorenson,

673
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: I don't think he's doing that. I'm not even sure

674
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 3: that like the younger version of Michael Lorenzen does that.

675
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of clumping him into a bucket of

676
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: young twenty six year old fireballers. But yeah, now, like, hey,

677
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: savvy Vett is probably cool with this.

678
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: It's also easier to be cool with it again when

679
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: you when you got a chance to win a World

680
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: Series and you're surround it. You look around the clubhouse,

681
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: you see future Hall of Famer, you know, in Bryce Harper,

682
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: you see a couple stud Yeah, I know Nola's been

683
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: up and down, but you see Wheeler and Nola and

684
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: you look at you just see talent all around you.

685
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: Trey Turner as well, And I think it makes it

686
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: easier to kind of accept a different role and real

687
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: quick in his career as a starter, and it's almost identical.

688
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: Samples I three hundred and seventy five innings as a starter,

689
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: three hundred and forty four innings as a reliever, four

690
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: to four to one era is a starter, three seven

691
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: four era as a reliever, and I know there's you know,

692
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: it's been some ups and downs, and this year overall

693
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: as a starter has been up and he's been better

694
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: than you know. I think the career numbers would indicate.

695
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: But he's had plenty of success as a reliever and

696
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: is ready to be stretched out. So I would be

697
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: surprised if they put anybody else in that role other

698
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: than other than him, and I think he'll be good

699
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: in that role.

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Speaker 3: The prize topic Chris Cotillo Maasslive dot com. The Red

701
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Sox have fired a Him Bloom statement from John Henry.

702
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: While parting ways is not taking lightly, today signals a

703
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: new direction for our club. Our organization has significant expectations

704
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: on the field, and while Heim's efforts and revitalizing our

705
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: baseball infrastructure have helped set the stage for the future,

706
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: we will today begin to search for new leadership. Everyone

707
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: who knows him has a deep appreciation and respect for

708
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: the kind of person he is. His time with us

709
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: will always be marked by his professionalism, integrity, and an

710
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: unwavering respect for our club and its legacy. Heim Bloom

711
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: failed as the GM of the Boston Red Sox. There

712
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: were some player development things that he did well, But

713
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox need to be winning close to

714
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: one hundred games every single frickin' year, and the Boston

715
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: Red Sox did not do that. Heim Bloom is gone.

716
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: I hope Heim Bloom lands on his feet. He was

717
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: a really successful number two guy in the Andrew Friedman

718
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: coaching tree. He was the two to Neander in Tampa Bay,

719
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken before he got hired by Boston.

720
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: I think he's a really good Robin. But it's clear

721
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: that Batman just didn't really work for Bloom in Boston.

722
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of similar to some of the conversations

723
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: we were having before about like the Billy Upwards of

724
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 4: the world and things like that. But I do think

725
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: that Heim Bloom is kind of in that same boat

726
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: of almost like a like a Walmart a J. Prewler,

727
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: where it's he's a really good scout and he identifies

728
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: talent extremely well. And I think they've done that in

729
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: terms of you see what they've done in the draft

730
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 4: recently and some of the IFA guys that they've added,

731
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: I mean Roman Anthony, that pick looks like one of

732
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: the best picks in multiple the last couple drafts and

733
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: he's been awesome as a nineteen year old in Double A.

734
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 4: Of course, Marcella Meyer falling into their lap was great,

735
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: but they pulled the trigger. Kyle Teel falling into their

736
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 4: lap was great. A lot of teams could have overthought

737
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 4: that they grabbed him. There's a lot of other examples

738
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: of great draft picks that they have been able to

739
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: nab there. And I think heim Bloom is great at

740
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: that and I think as the number two guy, he's

741
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: going to be awesome somewhere else. I don't think he's

742
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: gonna have a hard time finding a prominent role in

743
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: the front office. I do think he might have a

744
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: hard time finding a general manager's rule because, similar to

745
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: some of the other guys that we talk about, it

746
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: just seemed like when it came to the big league moves,

747
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: it just it just seemed like he was kind of

748
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: out of his domain a little bit. And you know,

749
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: going and paying a Trevor story when you know, all

750
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: indications were that not really anybody else was willing to

751
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: give him that many years. And you're looking at that

752
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: guy for multiple reasons. One because there was already injury concerns. Two,

753
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 4: he wasn't playing that well, and there was concerns about,

754
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, of course, just playing away from course and

755
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 4: three again, there was not that many people that were

756
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: bidding on. Trevor's story was very public and I think

757
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: there's even more that just was not that much interest

758
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: in him. So it was really interesting that they gave

759
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: him that five year deal. And then you look at

760
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: some of the other moves that they've made, like, you

761
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: don't add to the rotation that much, but you choose

762
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: to pay ken Lee Jansen sixteen million for two years,

763
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 4: and Jansen's been fine, but you know that that's money

764
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: that could go to a starter, and you know, Jansen's

765
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: kind of fallen off a cliff this year and now

766
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: he's hurt because he's an older reliever. Chris Martin's been great,

767
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: and that's been that should have been the guy that

768
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: they just added to the bullpen and called it a

769
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: day there, But you let Waka walk and I know

770
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: that he's been hurt, but he could have helped them

771
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: more than they've gotten from a lot of guys. It

772
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: just was kind of similar to the Cardinals in terms

773
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: of overlooking the rotation, but almost on a weird different level.

774
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: Because they paid relievers a lot of money, and they

775
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: paid like Trevor's Story, a lot of money before that,

776
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: and they put a lot of faith in it, oft

777
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: injured Chris Sale, and it just it was a really

778
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: weird approach, and it was weird to see them spend

779
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: money in certain ways. And the thing that like echoes

780
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: in my head is that the way they approached the

781
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: Xander Bogart situation, where you get the report that heim

782
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: Bloom's in pure shock that he's gone, It's like, what

783
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: did you think was gonna happen? And the way that

784
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: they handled that whole thing was bizarre. And I know

785
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: that Bogart's hasn't been great, but shit, man, I'd rather

786
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: have Boguarts on his contract right now than what they're

787
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: dealing with with with with Trevor story. And I still

788
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: think Bogarts is gonna bounce back and be fine. It's

789
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: it's an interesting one, and you know, he's been a

790
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 4: polarizing exec. It's one of the most common debates that

791
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: we have in our staff chat, but it's not really

792
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: a debate. It's everybody versus Kolby Olsen. But yeah, I'm

793
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: just surprised they did it right now. I don't know

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: why they didn't let him finish the season. That's that's

795
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: kind of wild.

796
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: It is kind of wild, man. I this is kind

797
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: of crazy because hem Bloom, like obviously his job security

798
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: wasn't great. And I think everybody could tell you that

799
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: his job security wasn't great because if you're not winning

800
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: at the helm of the Boston Red Sox, you're gonna.

801
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: Be let go.

802
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's just funny because I thought, like, all right,

803
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: that guy, it's it's not gonna be a hit you

804
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: in the face firing, But this is kind of a

805
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: hit you in the phase firing right now with heim Bloom.

806
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: So the bottles are are they still gold? I'm not sure?

807
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, man, Like it's the Bogarts thing that

808
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 3: is kind of like the the crown jewel of mediocrity

809
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: for heim Blum and Boston. I think, because all right,

810
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: you say you're shocked it was a crazy deal. Two

811
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety million for Xander Bogart's was I would

812
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: have never guessed that. I would have guessed the ceiling

813
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: was probably Dancy Swanson level money, where it was like

814
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: one eighty, But no, it's two ninety.

815
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: But I don't think it would have been two ninety earlier,

816
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: and that then they raised their offer in the eleventh hour,

817
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: and maybe that that part of that's John Henry. But again,

818
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: there was just the way that they've handled so many

819
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: different situations, and it just it just was it's some

820
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: some malpractice here and there, and there's also just you

821
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: look at the way that they've kind of handled some

822
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: of the situations with some of their players. I mean, dude,

823
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: just look at the if you want to understand how

824
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: messed up the whole situation has been at points. Look

825
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: at the different guys they've started to shortstop this year,

826
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: because when you sign Trevor Story, you knew that he

827
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: had arm issues and that he might not be able

828
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: to play shortstop, or there might be some gaps and

829
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 4: you might need somebody else to play there, and that's

830
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: why they always to about him potentially playing second base

831
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: most of the time. Look at the different players who

832
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 4: have played shortstop for the Boston Red Sox this year.

833
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: You've got Bobby dalbeck, U Chang. I mean, they trade

834
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: for alderberts On honesty, who never plays a game for them.

835
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: Pablo reyis played shorts there's probably some other dudes that

836
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: played shortstop for them. It's just outrageous. So yeah, just

837
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: the shortstop situation, the pitching situation, then spending on relievers

838
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: because you can say, oh, well Han was handicapped financially. Sure,

839
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: then I'm not throwing thirty two million at Kenley Jansen.

840
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little bit more creative than that. I'm

841
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: not throwing one hundred and fifty million and at Trevor Story.

842
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm getting more creative than that. So it just it

843
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 4: just was weird, weird moves.

844
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: And the other thing is like there's layers to this man,

845
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Like there were layers. You know, why sign Story when

846
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: you know that Bogarts is up the next year? Like

847
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: it just never meant to me.

848
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like the writing was on the wall

849
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: at that point when they signed Story.

850
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: You know this, like you can open spot track just

851
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: like everybody else, Like it's I know that Stories or

852
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: I know that Bogarts is a free agent next year.

853
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: Why would you sign another middle infielder that's going to

854
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: almost create a rift? And like, if you remember, it

855
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: was the tandem of Bogart's endeavors that were so cryptic

856
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: and they were almost like laughing at questions about extensions, like,

857
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: of course, we haven't been fucking offered an extension. Like

858
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: that was just kind of the way Heim Bloom was

859
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: was operating when I think the Red Sox really lucked

860
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: into a string of I think guys that fucking knew

861
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: what they were doing. Man with with THEO, and then

862
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: with Charrington and then with Dombrowski, Like they had a

863
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: bunch of guys that I think knew how to operate

864
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox and Bloom, I think he's great

865
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: making moves between the margins, but you're the fucking Boston

866
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: Red Sox. You don't need to make moves between the margins.

867
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: But the story and and ken Lee like those aren't

868
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: between the margins, and that's their big ticket.

869
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: Their big ticket. And and I think he got too

870
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: cute with those.

871
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then not trading James Paxton. Why are you

872
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: holding on to James Paxton?

873
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: Like he's Canadian, he's nice.

874
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: They could got a good return. It just yeah, blows

875
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: my mind, but they didn't.

876
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: All Right, let's rap with games of the weekend here.

877
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Let's start on Friday. I mean, Garrett Cole makes his

878
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: value to return to Pittsburgh. We want to do that. No,

879
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: we want to do Tampa and Baltimore at seven O

880
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: five Zach Efflin against Jack Flaherty in Baltimore.

881
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: Who wins? Zach Afln versus Jack Floyd? Give me the

882
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: raise and that's it's gonna be a This is gonna

883
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: be a six series. I'm really excited about this one.

884
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: But flerity is gonna get knocked around.

885
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: Okay, how about how about Boston Toronto? Brian Bao against

886
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: Jose Marios in Toronto.

887
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: To Toronto needs this one Beo's I think kind of

888
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: running out of gas a little bit. He's ad a

889
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: little bit of a wall. I'm gonna go with Toronto.

890
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: I think they bounced back and obviously this is a

891
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: frustrating time in Boston. Maybe it's galvanizing. I don't know,

892
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 4: but I think with the Tractions they're kind of fading.

893
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: Toronto takes an opportunity here to get themselves back in

894
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: the mix. Got you all right?

895
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: Friday night in Arizona, how about Justin Steele against a

896
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: bullpen day? If they replay what they do on Sunday

897
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: where Brandon fought was the long man steal against Arizona.

898
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: They're not replaying that one. It was bombs away.

899
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been so tough to see fot dude. He's

900
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: been like full blown not good. It's been Derby.

901
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: It's crazy because I mean watching that guy in the

902
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: Miners last year that there's easy stuff was so much better.

903
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on with him, but uh,

904
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: I mean bullpen game in Arizona. I know those are

905
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: the weird games where this one of the cy young

906
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: favorites somehow loses. But this is this is Steal's I think,

907
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: opportunity to really make that statement, and I would love

908
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: to see him shove there.

909
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: How about ten o'clock in Seattle on Friday, George Kirby

910
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: against Bobby Miller and the Dodgers.

911
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: I don't George Kirby. It's gonna be a one of

912
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: two ways. He's gonna come out and absolutely shove or

913
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: he's going to struggle a little bit. I think he

914
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: comes out with a chip on his shoulder and I

915
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 4: think he shoves, and I think the Mariners take that one.

916
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: But that's a fun one. That's gonna be a real

917
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: for so many reasons.

918
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a great series all right. Two games

919
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: on Saturday, going back to Ray's Orioles at Camden Yards,

920
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: Tyler Glass Now against Grayson Rodriguez. Oh my god, this

921
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: is a good weekends, a great weekend.

922
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: This is a good weekend. Lasts now versus Grayson. I

923
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: think Grayson matches Glass now like I think he comes

924
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: out and shoves. But the way that Glass now is

925
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: throwing right now is on it just now looks unfucking believable, right,

926
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: I think matches through the lens of like keeping you know,

927
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 4: runs off the board. I don't think he strikes out

928
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: twelve or whatever. Give me the Rays again. In that one,

929
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: I think the Rays make a statement say like, hey,

930
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: I know the oriol has been running away with it,

931
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: but you know, are still here.

932
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: I think Tampa wins three to one. I think they

933
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: get two runs late. I think we go into the

934
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: seventh tied at one.

935
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: I agree. I think I think Grayson throws well, I

936
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: really do. I've loved what I've seen from him.

937
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Nine on Saturday night, Clayton Kershaw against

938
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller in Seattle Dodgers Mariners.

939
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: I think Seattle takes it again. Just looks he looks.

940
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: I mean he's Kershaw, I know, and he's still getting outs,

941
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: but it's it was tough watching like he was sitting

942
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 4: eighty eight eighty nine last time I watched the start

943
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: from him, like it's just uh yeah, But Bryce Miller

944
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: has you know, been ups and downs too. I'm gonna,

945
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: uh give me, give me the Dodgers because I have

946
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: the Dodgers. Was in the first one, Give me the Dodgers.

947
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: The second one.

948
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I've got the Dodgers winning the second one too.

949
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: I think I have him splitting the first couple. And

950
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: then Sunday, there's really no like head to head matchups

951
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: announced Charlie Warton and Hazu's Lizardo in Miami is kind

952
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 3: of fun, but like, give me the.

953
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: Raves, Like, yeah, give me the Braves. Braves papering off,

954
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: Braves own the Marlins and Wizardo did have a really

955
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: rough start last time OUTI ups and downs over the

956
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: second half. It's a tough one for him. Braves win

957
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: that one.

958
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 3: From bar Valdez against Jordan Lyles on Sunday afternoon in

959
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City. How many runs do the Astros win by?

960
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Give me a give me a five run spread, Hey,

961
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: haters that want to shit on the Oakland A's all

962
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: the time. Oakland at this point, do they play on Sunday?

963
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: How do they not play on Sunday the Oakland A's, Yes,

964
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: they do. They play San Diego. Oakland is forty six

965
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: and one hundred Kansas City's forty six and one hundred

966
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: and one. The Royals are the worst team in baseball.

967
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: Open your eyes, people, They're worse than the Oakland A's.

968
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: So man, I'm with you. You might be a murder and

969
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: then a couple series to wrap because we don't have

970
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: those announced starting pitching matchups Cleveland and Texas. Texas has

971
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: yet to announce any starting pitchers, but it's Gilito byby

972
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: Gavin Williams of the three game weekend set. How many

973
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: games does Texas take?

974
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: This is a big one for Texas and that's why,

975
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: like you say, like, oh, I could see them fading,

976
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: but this is an opportunity for them to pretty much

977
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 4: kind of cement it. Who we don't know who's on

978
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: Texas aside obviously Gildo. I think Texas takes two out

979
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: of three.

980
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do Blue Jay's Red Sox in its entirety

981
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: Bao and Barrios on Friday, sail and Bassett on Saturday,

982
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: Paveta against two be determined. On Sunday, does Toronto take

983
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: two BeO Sale and Paveta so against Barrio's Bassett and

984
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 3: to be determined.

985
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: M that's gonna be an ugly series. I think. I

986
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: think Toronto takes too out of three.

987
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: They have to, Okay.

988
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Also, I forgot Tim Bloom signed Corey Kluber to

989
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: a ten million dollar deal, right, people forget people forget about? Yeah?

990
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: All right?

991
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 3: And then Arizona I think has yet to announce any

992
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: starters for their series at home against Chicago. It is

993
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: Sunday night baseball, a good Sunday night baseball game. Finally,

994
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: Jordan Wicks against to be determined in Cubs Diamondbacks, but

995
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: it's Steel, Kyle Hendricks, Wicks against three starters that are

996
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: to be announced for Arizona in Phoenix.

997
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I think the Cubs bounce back here.

998
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: I mean, the tough series in Colorado, I think this

999
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: is an opportunity for them to bounce back. And I

1000
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: mean this is like do or die at this point,

1001
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: They've really fallen off a cliff. Legitimately, do or die,

1002
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: because it could get really ugly if you drop it

1003
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: to a team that's kind of on your heels all

1004
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: of a sudden here, So I think Cubs bounce back.

1005
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Take two out of three, got you, And then Sunday

1006
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: to wrap up the series, we've got Dodgers and Mariners

1007
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: splitting the first two in Seattle. Game one is Bobby

1008
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Miller and George Kirby. Game two is Clayton Kershaw and

1009
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller. Game three lines up for lanceln and Logan Gilbert.

1010
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 4: You meet two out of three for the owners. I'm buying,

1011
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: and I'm buying the stock all right.

1012
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: Every link and eat is in the episode description. It's

1013
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: been a fun week chatting with Arham, but we are

1014
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: giddy to get Peter back on the microphone. He will

1015
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: enjoy his football Sunday. I hope you guys enjoy your

1016
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: football Sunday. I hope you guys pass your time on Saturday,

1017
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: because this is kind of a shitty week for college football,

1018
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: but next week is utterly insane. Again, get your merch.

1019
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 3: I'm rocking a hat or I'm rocking a shirt right now.

1020
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 3: Arm's got the polo on, which is a great slick polo.

1021
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: Is awesome, man. It's it's got to be my favorite thing.

1022
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: It's try fit. It's perfect for golf at whatever you want,

1023
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: or even just like you don't feel like wearing something

1024
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 4: too nice, that's uncomfortable, but you can get away with it.

1025
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 4: Like polos are fire.

1026
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Polos are fire, So go get yourself a fire polo

1027
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: and we will talk to you guys on Monday.

1028
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: Pat