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Speaker 1: M y coming to you live from the Cross Country

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Campus in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's daily

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Speaker 1: esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Alright, Lens soon live on a Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: issue the program merely bow in the great z here

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Speaker 1: for the next couple of hours. My friend, it all

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Speaker 1: got real as I pulled in today. Yesterday was an assignment,

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Speaker 1: and I pulled in today and I saw like the

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Speaker 1: signs for patrons in various boosters and media for parking.

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Speaker 1: We're like a week from camp. Is this where you

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Speaker 1: got to make sure we get our parking situations sorted out?

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Speaker 1: That I'm sure yours. Definitely, you're like a big aluminary now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta get like the Deek treatment hardly.

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Speaker 1: Just drive up to the front door and get out.

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Speaker 1: We get a memo two days in and I should

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Speaker 1: just call it as a girl rule, because the girl

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Speaker 1: occasionally we'll take liberties on the parking. I don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him at all. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: park on the grass if it sounds high maintenance, so

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Speaker 1: I really don't want to. That's where the employees are

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Speaker 1: supposed to park well, it says media like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I remember, you know you are the media. I'm coming in,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming in hot. I mean it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: am in the story. But they you so in their

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Speaker 1: mind you shouldn't be there. You to be to be down.

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Speaker 1: I've been told that there I will have I will

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Speaker 1: have special especially in your current standing, elevated standing, that

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Speaker 1: there should be certain things that are done, including, you know,

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Speaker 1: get out, take take your car. Mr girl, we gotta Stevie.

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Speaker 1: Why don't I just see exciting se Stevie. You'll get

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Speaker 1: in and pull it in and negotiate a parking spot.

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Speaker 1: Stevie first day was yesterday? Does he know who Stevie?

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Speaker 1: Did we do a pop quiz? Like, does he know

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Speaker 1: who Stevie is? Either of the two Stevies? He's up

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Speaker 1: to speed on Stevie. Does he knows? Does he know

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Speaker 1: that he's Stevie two point oh? No, he does not

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Speaker 1: know that there was a previous Stevie who's gone on.

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Speaker 1: Two great things hangs on the wall, the work ethic

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Speaker 1: on original and he's he's a news director no sports

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Speaker 1: I think, is he bossing his station around? And I

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Speaker 1: the employee the station. I'm sure he's I mean, does

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Speaker 1: a springboard the bigger things. Well, that's what you do

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Speaker 1: in that business, like you go to those places, pay

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Speaker 1: your dues and then bounce around. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about this, all right. So he's in. It's a green

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Speaker 1: air Max one, that is, and what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: He looks for a fresh he doesshed. I think he's

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Speaker 1: had a great summer. He's been off for about nine weeks.

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Speaker 1: Just walked in here with the fantastic. It's so that

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Speaker 1: appears to be the official shoe of the luminary. Is

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Speaker 1: the air Force one in various incarnations of orange and

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Speaker 1: the Pecan I have those in Pecan. And then there's

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Speaker 1: And then there's another one that is that it's like

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Speaker 1: the more of like the Tennessee orange, which that's what

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Speaker 1: has like another have you seen those? They've got like

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Speaker 1: another thing in the kind of another hump in the

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Speaker 1: it's the perfect color to reference. And then a quarter

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Speaker 1: zip he's in a quarters with the you with a you,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. I didn't know that there was a

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Speaker 1: what's the connection? I don't know? Is that? Where does

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Speaker 1: he have a youth? Was it you Miami? Yeah? He ever? Somebody?

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Speaker 1: So what I thought? Yeah, maybe it was that where

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Speaker 1: So how did Stevie do in day one? Excellent? Made

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Speaker 1: you know who Steve Jynowski is? No ouch? Al Right,

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Speaker 1: here's your homework assignment from your uncle Bo. Stevie between

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Speaker 1: when we say you're Stevie and no means are we

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Speaker 1: What we what we want ideally out of a Stevie

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Speaker 1: is the loyalty, the devotion and the devotion. And that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. The desire to make us

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Speaker 1: willing to do whatever anything to lift Kenny. That's that's

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Speaker 1: really what that comes. Should he skip like Mexico? No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's a little dark, gets a little dark. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Stevie. Well I don't. Again, he's not Stevie. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's just the devotion's Mexico is where he becomes the

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Speaker 1: also like a once he does watch this, I would

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Speaker 1: like your mount rushmore of the four best characters in

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Speaker 1: the two are the no brainer too. Are no brainers,

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Speaker 1: all right. So that's the homework assignment. That's the homework assignment.

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Speaker 1: UM rookies from the Falcons, Ravens, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriot, Saints, Giants,

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Speaker 1: Jets all reported to camp today. Baby away we go.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Paul is here? Kids Friday for us? Man

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Speaker 1: Friday for us them. It hit me yesterday we were

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Speaker 1: And we went to the Dick Sporting Goods and I

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Speaker 1: stats with you. Two. What do you think a pair

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Speaker 1: of youth receiver gloves cost? Youth receiver gloves? Now you

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Speaker 1: can give me you could use we can't go over No,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Closest to the pin, you can go Nike.

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Speaker 1: He goes, well, for three you can, you can every

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a bit much, right, a bit much.

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Speaker 1: That I liked it that they consider built an insurance policy.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible. Yeah, like just and you know, those

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Speaker 1: you'd go to Dicks every week and get another pair.

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Speaker 1: Like you don't want any space anywhere. So that this

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Speaker 1: that that I feel like that policy, this doesn't make

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Speaker 1: We do know that there is Uh, Myles Garrett will

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Speaker 1: be in a will be a ninety nine in Madden

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Speaker 1: of course coming this year, which of course he would dominant.

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Speaker 1: Who are your ninety nine in the league? Do we

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Speaker 1: know them all? I've seen so far. I've seen Davante,

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Speaker 1: Adams and Miles. I think they're rolling them out slowly.

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Speaker 1: Ramsey and ninety nine Donald, I'm sure they will be Yeah, Madden, Rogers, Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've done the quarterbacks yet. So

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Speaker 1: so far they've done Trent Williams, Davante Adams, and Miles Garrett. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's it, so t J, he should be nine. T J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine would be yeah, Donald, Yeah, Ramsey, maybe Digs, yeah, Trevon,

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Speaker 1: There's they're usually just uh, they're usually just a handful.

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Speaker 1: So last year it was Donald, Davante, Adams and Mahomes

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Speaker 1: maybe is he less? We'll find out. Didn't he just

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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, Oh, he's gonna miss this for sure,

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00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss this put and then he would he

421
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: missed by an inch. There was just one more revolution

422
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: in and if it's that happened like seven times where

423
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: it was but missed by an inch here or there.

424
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: It just felt like he was golf. So oftentimes if

425
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: you think we were spoiled by Tiger or even Jack

426
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: in eighty six, like so oftentime, golf gives you the

427
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: story that you feel like you deserve. Tiger did that

428
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: a lot at Evil. At St. Andrew's, he went twice

429
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: at St. Andrew's like he won the US Open at Pebble.

430
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: He did the things that you're supposed to do when

431
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: you're one of the greatest players of all time, you're

432
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: supposed to do that. Rory's always had this prodigious talent.

433
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: He had the game. He's he was twenty seven under

434
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: in the majors, you know, cumulative of guys made the

435
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 1: stroke by far the best and didn't win any of them.

436
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: It was in It was at St. Andrew's he played flawlessly.

437
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: If you can't do it, he missed even one bucker

438
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: all week and then he hold out from it. He

439
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: hit every green in regulation in the final round. If

440
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: you were to tell say at the beginning of the day,

441
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: Rory's gonna hit every green regulation and he's not gonna

442
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: have a single three put when easy, yep, not guy

443
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: should sixty four, Maybe I should thirty on the back

444
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: like Roy didn't lose it. No Smith won it, and

445
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: it was fascinating to watch. But just and that's one

446
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: of the things I and I complained about this sometimes

447
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: in my own golfing life, like I think the fact

448
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: that and it's it's about getting the ball in the hole.

449
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: I totally get that. But it's amaze saying how much

450
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: putting can matter when to me, like the hard thing

451
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: is to hit it are three forty with a with

452
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: a cut when you have to do it right down

453
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the fairway and then hit your iron

454
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: where he did. And now he hit a couple of

455
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: those chips he didn't hit well. He doesn't get up

456
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: and down from off the green on the par five

457
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: and cam Smith would have. And that's the thing I

458
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: said yesterday. You go, I've been at those places. You

459
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: put the ball down where he was on seventeen and

460
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: on eighteen, and you could give most people ten tries

461
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: at both from both spots to make a combined score

462
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: of four, and they're not going to do it. Like

463
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: what he did was so good to put on eighteen

464
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: was insanely good. It was he was. He made anything.

465
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: And my dad and my vetos got all these cruel shots,

466
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: Like Dad, most of those putts he was making were

467
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: between twelve and twenty feet and they just weren't no,

468
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: they were just drain. Oh yes, he drilled them all.

469
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: It reminded me a little bit of kind of like

470
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in Kansas City against Kansas City, just in

471
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: the zone, just ands got one more chance. Allen played perfectly.

472
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: What more could he have done? And that's what I

473
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: felt with Rory, Like, yeah, he could have, you know,

474
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: make two of those puts, right, because he certainly would

475
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: have made birdie on eighteen, and he played it the

476
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: way he was going to play it, you know, but

477
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately miss hit that driver because he saw an

478
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: eagle as possible because the guy right in front of us,

479
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: right in front of him. Yeah, so what did he do?

480
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: You just didn't hit it. He had play it as

481
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: a distance for sure. Yeah. And then by the way, um,

482
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: one of the TV presenters from BBC went out, she

483
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: was a professional player, went out and hit it and

484
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: made it. The chip on eighteen that Rory tried to make.

485
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: She went out and made it, like made the chip.

486
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: What's pretty crazy that you didn't see afterwards what happened

487
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: So after it was over, St Andrew's like became a park.

488
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Like everyone was just like in the Bunker's. Little kids

489
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: were putting on the greens like there were hundreds of people,

490
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: thousands of people just billing around the course. It became

491
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: like a state park and anybody could just go in

492
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: there and walk around hit balls. What her It was great.

493
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: It was the coolest thing ever. Little kids putting hitting

494
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: t shots on one like open and then walking out there,

495
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: hit a little bit. Let me try to hit this. Yeah,

496
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: that's English. A BBC television presenter hit it. That's incredible.

497
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Uh and also sad to hear that that happened the

498
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: other thing And I didn't get talked about you with

499
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: this with Gibbson, I talked about it. But so I'm

500
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: on the plane going to Chicago and I just happened

501
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: to be on a flight with the Direct TV Tiger

502
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: walks up eighteen. I'm emotional. I could tell it's on

503
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the screens. A lot of the guys

504
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: on the flight we're watching it, and ladies, I'm sure.

505
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Um and he all I want to do is make

506
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: that put on a team with a three footer and

507
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: he missed it and everybody on the plane there's a

508
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: collective like, oh so sad. It sucked, just sucked because

509
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: it had everything that should have been the sign to

510
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: you that it wasn't gonna that it wasn't gonna work out,

511
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: that we weren't getting the storybook. Yeah, that was emotional,

512
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: like watching kind of was if it was if you

513
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: didn't if it was anybody other than Rory who played

514
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: that same round that Rory did, you wouldn't have cared

515
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: on even like camp it's in if Rory were Jordan's speed,

516
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: if any other it was, it was an experience just

517
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: for him at the open juxtaposed this live p g

518
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: a stuff like all of it like it had all

519
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: of it there and he did it for he He

520
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: shot sixty six twice, hit one bunker and hold out

521
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: for eagle and lost by two shots. You can't do

522
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: it better. It's just how about right with young Hendy

523
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: be kicking himself to that guy made rotation and on

524
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: one three putted from like nowhere. We'll think about what

525
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: cam Smith would have done had he not blown up

526
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: that ridiculous poll on on Saturday. I mean that was

527
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: crazy and that was just inexplicably what he was doing, Like, everyone,

528
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: what is he doing? This is insane? He just kept

529
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: and he still won shot sixty four. Um, did you

530
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: see the twice twice? Did you see the Carolina Panthers

531
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: leads today? She's what are you hard to sing? Why

532
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: isn't that just that? Should just be it like that?

533
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: You know how I feel about black, like just arbitrarily

534
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: put in teams. I'm not a fan, but perfect a

535
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Panther actually is black, that's right. I don't know. It

536
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: feels like maybe that ought to have been the uniform.

537
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: That's perfect. Um My guess is the only reason they

538
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: did is because at the well, no, yeah, at the

539
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: time that they entered Atlanta was already all black. That's

540
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: probably why Atlanta is in the division. But bad black

541
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: is awesome, and it will look the black would look

542
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: so great over the blue, and it would look so

543
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: great over the white, and it would look so great

544
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: over the black. I mean, it's the perfect helmet for them.

545
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: It's what they should be there. But the Falcons, the

546
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Falcons can should have go back to red with a

547
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: black alternate when they wear the Jeff George's did you guys,

548
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: would you guys making the Calves uniforms the unveil yesterday,

549
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: I like them. I thought they were cleaning. I kind

550
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: of like the shorts with a little bit of a

551
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: logo on the short. You don't see that very often,

552
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: so I like that. I like the omage to the

553
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: old logo with the ball going through the hoop. On

554
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the white whites with the red lettering. I think I

555
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: like the black one as well. I think they're they're

556
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: pretty solid. The only thing I understand is why they

557
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: have two CS fonts on the uniform. The different fonts.

558
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: It just I don't understand that, Like it's it's it is.

559
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: They are really clean. I think the white one is

560
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: the best one and then the black and then the

561
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: wine one is probably the least interesting to me, But

562
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: the the other two are both good. Um. But the

563
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: it's just strange to me that they have two different

564
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: CE fonts, Like usually you like that to be just one.

565
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: I thought that that was your Twitter coming white, two sees.

566
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't understand that part of it. That's it, um alright,

567
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: This from from College Football. Notre Dame would remain independent

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: of can earn at levent annually and media rights revenue.

569
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: From current broadcast partner NBC's The Fighting Irish deal with

570
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: the network is said to expire. Can they get that

571
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: kind of a deal. They're asking NBC to give them

572
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: five times what their make, so right now it's around

573
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: fifteen million, will escalate to round twenty two. So they

574
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: need NBC to just arbitrarily give them seventy five million

575
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: to do it. NBC's response to this is okay, fine,

576
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: but we're gonna need ancillary program around you. So what

577
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: they're talking about is maybe getting the Big twelve to

578
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: maybe partner with Notre Dame and then play into Notre

579
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: Dame games with Big twelve games, or out of Notre

580
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: Dame games into Big twelve games. I don't know how

581
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: familiar were if who's in the Big twelve now, but

582
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma aren't going to be really correctly so

583
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: exactly why to go to one of the super coom

584
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: They've never been so agreed they should. They can make

585
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars a year from the Big ten.

586
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: USC their biggest rival is in the Big Ten. If

587
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I were if I were the Big Ten, I would

588
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: tell Notre Dame very plainly right now or never. If

589
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: you don't come now. You're never coming again, and we

590
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: will never give you this opportunity again period. We're never

591
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: asking again. Notre Dame needs them far more than they

592
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: need Notre Dame. They already have a hundred hundred million

593
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: dollars year in TV deal. They don't need Notre Dame.

594
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Why is the Big twelve not taking the Pack twelve? Well,

595
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: because the Pac twelve is actually the better the Pac

596
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: twelve even without USC and U c l A their

597
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: media rights deals up in a year, and they actually

598
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: have better brands. I mean, they've got they Washington rejected them. No, no, no,

599
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: they rejected a full merger the Big twelve did. The

600
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Big twelve wants to like take a few of the schools,

601
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: and USC and U c l A went to big tent,

602
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: to the big tent there out. Why is Arizona not

603
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: getting any respect in these merger talks? They don't move

604
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: the needle, buddy. It's a great basketball program. Nobody cares about.

605
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Who's as Kansas. Kansas a better basketball program, and they're

606
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: they can't, They're stuck in the Big twelve. It's just

607
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: it's brutal. It's just the reality. Like football drives the

608
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: entire bus. Why can't we get back to the desert

609
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: swarm days. I don't know. I ask whoever the coaches there.

610
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I think the bigger I think, honestly, the bigger sleeping

611
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: giant out there is Arizona State. I don't I have

612
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: no understanding why Arizona State hasn't been good and everything,

613
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: get everything. They're in a major media market, it's a

614
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: gorgeous campus, it's a huge school, like it's cool nickname

615
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: to me. The idea that they're not good, it is

616
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: absurd that Arizona State has never been good. Um, so

617
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is in a position to try to get there.

618
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: They're asking for this number. I don't know if it

619
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: will be there for him because the other thing is

620
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: is when you do. Because they don't have any dance partners.

621
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Big ten could very easily

622
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: tell USC can't play me, you can't play him, and

623
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: then that's it. So who they don't get it. That's

624
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: why it makes no sense. It makes no sense why

625
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: it isn't And what's happening with the A C C

626
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: teams like the Clemson they have a granted rights to

627
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: six that's binding with the ESPN, so they can't get

628
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: out of it with So if Florida State were to say,

629
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: if the SEC said, hey Florida, Hey Clemson, we would

630
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: like you to join the SEC, Clemson, boy, we'd love that.

631
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I'd love the money from the SEC. They the deal

632
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: that they signed with ESPN, it's the worst deal in

633
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: television sports maybe history. By the time, all of a

634
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: sudden done is binding through granted rights. So what it

635
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: says is if Clemson were to go to the SEC,

636
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: all of Clemson's television revenue from now until six would

637
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: go to the a c C. Why would they have

638
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: ever because at the time everyone was panic and trying

639
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: to find a cable television home and John Swafford signed

640
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the deal the a CEC commissioner. It's one of the

641
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: worst deals and to do it that far out is

642
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: one of the dumbest things you could ever do. So

643
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: the only way that any of those a CEC schools

644
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: get propped up is if ESPN. And the goodness or

645
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: heart is like, you know what, this is a ridiculous deal.

646
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: I understand you guys can't compete making thirty two million

647
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: dollars a year in television deals while your rivals in

648
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: your own state are making a hundred bllion. Unless that happens,

649
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: there's really no play for the a CEC schools. So

650
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: they're stuck. Man, They're totally stuck unless you do what

651
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Maryland did. And at the time they had Plank, who's

652
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: the founder of under Armour, who wrote the check for

653
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: them to get out of the a CEC. Like he

654
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: wrote the check for them to get out of it. Um.

655
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Unless somebody at those places can do that this, they're

656
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: pretty much stuck in it. That's wilde um home run Derby.

657
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of it? Give a Z none?

658
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: I know the miss was the m v P of

659
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the Celebrity Game hit good for walk off Homer, Well,

660
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: the Prince of Parma's got a sweet swing. He does

661
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: have a nice swing. Yeah, but I did not watch

662
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: any of it. Yeah. I had it on for a

663
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: little bit that I didn't know any of the people

664
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: were and the ruling was convoluted like these times in

665
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: an extended time. It was silly. Um. It lasted forever.

666
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: From what I could tell. It was kind of a

667
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: second screen thing for me. Um. At the end of

668
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: it was the Jeter doc. I'm telling you I don't

669
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: know that there's seven parts on a guy that What

670
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: more is there to know of Jeter? Like, isn't his

671
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: story well known? It feels pretty well known. It also, Yeah,

672
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't like it's one thing with Jordan, Like Jordan

673
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: didn't talk and it was before a lot of people.

674
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people who were who

675
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: took in the last dance who had no point of

676
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: reference on the Jordan Bulls. You know, they didn't see

677
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: him live like Jeters. I don't know, is there that

678
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: much to it feels like he was constantly talked about

679
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: his whole career. He was for twenty years, and he

680
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: didn't He wasn't a guy that made news outside of

681
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: like the Yankees winning championships and maybe his personal life

682
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: and who he was dating. Was he that would be good?

683
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: Can I just say as unpopular? Was he that great? Yeah?

684
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: He's sixth all time and hits, he's got paying Yeah,

685
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: but you've got to be good enough to play. He's

686
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: got thirty four hundred hits, you right, it his long

687
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: jevit all time batting averages three ten. Yeah, it's good.

688
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: He had two years in his career, three years with

689
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: more than twenty homers in his whole career one season

690
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: of a hundred RBI. Didn't really steal bases, no, he

691
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: and he wasn't exceptionally defensively, but he was really clutch

692
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: and he was there all the time. So he's probably

693
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: like to me, he feels a little bit like you know,

694
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: our generations cal Ripken Jr. Like I don't know that

695
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: anybody thought Cal Ripken Jr. Was the best player in

696
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: baseball when he was with the Orioles, but he was

697
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: always really good, you know. Like I think if Jeter

698
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: doesn't play for the Yankees as he viewed this way,

699
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: we'll know, of course not so his career wins above

700
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: replacement was seventy one point through which is nine four

701
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, which doesn't seem like you have a

702
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: top one hundred player in baseball history. But I think

703
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: he went in on like an almost absurd amount of ballots,

704
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: and that had a lot to do with the mystic

705
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, the mystical Yankees and all of that. If

706
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: he plays his whole career here in Cleveland, he's got hits, like,

707
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: there's no way he's viewed the same kind of way.

708
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: I think that's that's part of it. Um all right,

709
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: Coming up next training camp, we get back into a

710
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: defensive ends, defensive tackles. We'll get you set on what

711
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I think is really the only true position battle out

712
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: there is in the middle of this defensive line. We'll

713
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: get into that coming up next Cleveland's Daily esp and

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715
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716
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717
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns training camp. Position previews continue on

718
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: the defensive line. My friend d N and d Tackle.

719
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: So in terms of who is here from a defensive

720
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: line rosters standpoint, you certainly know the edges very well.

721
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Miles and Jadevian Clowney are there. Beyond that, it's some

722
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: guys that we are going to need to step up

723
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Guy like Curtis Weaver has been here

724
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: a long time, Chase Winovich who is new to the mix. Um.

725
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: But then it's really defensive tackle where it's a little

726
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: bit of who's gonna come win this thing. It's pretty

727
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: wide open. I think that's the most interesting position battle

728
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: on the roster by a decent margin. My friend, absolutely,

729
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: in terms of we don't know who's starting, we don't

730
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: know what the rotation looks like at that position. It

731
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: really is the one area that we we don't understand.

732
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: I got into it a little bit on yesterday's show,

733
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: but I'll do so again. So the principal players and

734
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You got Jordan Elliott, the third round picking.

735
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Played in sixteen games last year, career high forner and

736
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: sixty four snaps, had ten pressures, half a sack, twenty

737
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: six tackles. He's got to take a major step forward.

738
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: He's had a great start to his offseason. We've heard

739
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: that though a couple of times. We need that, we

740
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: need that to be a real thing. And then there's

741
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Taven Brian, four first round pick of the Jags, in

742
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: was twenty ninth overall. Chris Kiffin told me that the

743
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: Browns really thought that he was a perfect fit for

744
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: with the Brown scheme and maybe wasn't showcase getting to

745
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: showcase the abilities they thought they should in Jackson. Not

746
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: say the Jacksonels running the wrong scheme, is just that

747
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: they think his skill set is going to fit better

748
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: with what we do than what it did in Jacksonville.

749
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: So they feel like they got a guy with great

750
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: natural talent, a former first round pick who should is

751
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: Taylor made to play in our aggressive, you know, four

752
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: man front, So they're excited about him. He's got sixty

753
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: three career games, seventeen starts, five and a half sacks,

754
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: eighty six tackles, fifteen tackles for loss. Then you've got

755
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: a couple of our draft picks, and then a veteran

756
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: who is just always produced, Perry on Winfrey. First of all,

757
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick out of Oklahoma, same thing out

758
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: of position at Oklahoma was a zero or a one

759
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: tech true nose tackle, still manage forty two tackles six

760
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: sax in his last two seasons. Then he goes to

761
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. They put him at three tech, which

762
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: is what he will play for the Cleveland Browns. He

763
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: was the m v P of the Senior Bowl. Coach

764
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Kiffin's excited about him. Even Clowney's excited about him. Garrett's

765
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: excited about him. The explosives he brings. He has a

766
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: chance to, I think be a Day one starter or

767
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: carve out a significant role. But that's gonna be on him.

768
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Then you got Tommy togy last year's fourth round pick. Now,

769
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: togy I really didn't get active until, in fact, his

770
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: first game active was against New England Patriots in Week ten.

771
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: It was only active for six games a year ago.

772
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Hud snaps two pressures, half sex, sixteen tackles. Incredibly strong player.

773
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: We know that the forty reps of toy I. It's

774
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: interesting because you think of him such a big guy.

775
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: You see him, he's not as big, and I think

776
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: his weight and keeping it up, but keeping his speed

777
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: is the big challenge for him. He's got to be

778
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: a three pounder, but hasn't really gotten to that spot

779
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: yet with the Browns, and so I think that is

780
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: something that we have to keep our eye on, his size,

781
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: his power at the point of attack, how he's going

782
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: to fit into this defense. And then there's Sheldon Day,

783
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: who you know this year. Six year veteran fourth round

784
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: pick of the Jags back in two thousand and sixteen,

785
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: played in seven games last year for the Browns, two

786
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: thirty three snaps. He started on Christmas Day against Green Bay.

787
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: He had a sack, twenty one tackles, eleven quarterback pressures.

788
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: For the year, he was actually the on his highest

789
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: graded defensive tackle a Pro Football Focus. He's actually played

790
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: in more games than anybody in our defensive tackle room,

791
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: sixties seven with three starts on seven sex. So Sheldon Day,

792
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a four person room. You

793
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: feel like Taven, Brian, Jordan Elliott, you know, Perry and

794
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: winfre your locks. I think togy I is obviously you

795
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: feel good about him. It was last year's fourth round pick.

796
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: But I think he's competing with Sheldon Day for that

797
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: fourth spot. I think he's gonna have to show big

798
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: progress to do that. I just don't know if he

799
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: can keep the weight that he needs to, like his

800
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: frame and you know the way that he works out

801
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: anytime you see it. I just can he consistently play it? Three?

802
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wait, you know, I think that's a

803
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: hell of a question. I think it's something that they're

804
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: working on it. I know it's it's something that is

805
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: I think they realize that it's an important thing for him.

806
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: And now you come behind him, and this is a

807
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: name that I'm gonna throw out there. You watch a

808
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: lot more college football than I did. Two names, so

809
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: maybe you know more about him. One is Glenn Logan,

810
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: who's an undrafted free agent from LCO. He started basically

811
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: his whole career at LSU. He's a three pounder, played

812
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: on their national championship teams. Started in that game, had

813
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: half a sack against Clemson. But he's a three pound

814
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: big body. I I don't remember him, you know, I

815
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: don't remember him being something. They had so many stars

816
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: year they won the national title that I don't I

817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: don't remember him specifically, and then last year they were

818
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: largely irrelevant. Um, so I'm curious, but I am curious

819
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: why he was undrafted, and I'm wondering what, like kind

820
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: of the pedigree on him was. It was a four

821
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: star she's but he was a ninety three rated. I mean,

822
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: that's a yeah, four star kid. I wonder what interest

823
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: I wonder what happened that made him undrafted. Usually you

824
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: see six four two ninety defensive line l s U

825
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: four star lineage like you take a flyer. So I

826
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about him. I wouldn't want to speculate.

827
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: Somebody to keep an eye on him. And then there's

828
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: Roderick Perry who was at Illinois All Big ten honorable mention.

829
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: That's the other guy kind of competing in there. But

830
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: I think you know, Logan's the one that's kind of

831
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: six out and say, oh, if somebody's gonna shock the world,

832
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: that maybe he has a chance given his background. Uh

833
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned the pedigree and being obviously at

834
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: l s U. UM, but I think really he's looking

835
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: to stay in the program, stay on the practice squad.

836
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how the Browns approached that,

837
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: uh and approach that room. Defensive end, which we talked

838
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: about Clowney and Garrett, of course we know them combined

839
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: for twenty five sacks last year, Miles first team All

840
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: Pro for the second straight year. Clowney nine sacks and

841
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: fourteen games his best season. The backups. You know you

842
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: got Alex right, your third round pick out of U

843
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: A B who, at seven and a half sacks last

844
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: year was the PF Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year.

845
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: And he's got that great size to be the big

846
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: end of the future. Um. He's the air apparent, I

847
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: think to Clowney in this defense. UM. And and you talk,

848
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: Chris Kiftany says, the first thing that jumps off the

849
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: tape is his size speed ratio. We can set the edge,

850
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: and he also has a versatility to rush from the inside.

851
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: If you have the Brown's breakdown on Alex Right that

852
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: our YouTube channel YouTube dot com Slash Brown's we actually

853
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: break down some film with him rushing from the inside,

854
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: and so he is going to be in the mix

855
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: to be that kind of net third defensive end in

856
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: our pass rushing situations, along with Chase Winovitch, who we

857
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: are chuired from the Patriots in the trade with Mack Wilson.

858
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Um Chasewater says eleven sacks in his NFL career, all

859
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: eleven five and a half came in each of his

860
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: first two seasons. Last year kind of a lost year

861
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: due to injury, and I think, you know, the Browns

862
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: are hoping he can fill that Tech McKinley rule. But

863
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: we also heard over the weekend that Tech McKinley is

864
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: doing well and wants to come back to the Browns,

865
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: and the Browns are interested in him, and I'd say,

866
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: why not. It's not gonna be expensive, and I like Tech.

867
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: I like everything about him unique. I mean, it seems

868
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: like everybody in the building did so Yeah, I mean,

869
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: it'd be great to have that. That's certainly a wrinkle.

870
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: So there's that. So if you're looking at today, I

871
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: think those are your four. But talk about competition making

872
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: this team at defensive end, I think there is come

873
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: because I think you have three absolute locks. Our guy

874
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Win a bitch and we like a lot. Feels like

875
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: he's at the favorite to be the fourth. But listen

876
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: to our backups. Stephen Weatherly, six year veteran, started carew

877
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: at the Vikings back in two thousand sixteen, so people

878
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: on this staff know him. Uh seventy three career games,

879
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: seventeen career starts, eight and a half sacks, twenty tackles

880
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: for loss. Isaac Rochelle, five year veteran, four years with

881
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers, one year with Indie, sixty three career games,

882
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: nine career starts, nine and a half sex and tentacles

883
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: for lost. So you've got guys who his role players

884
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: have been productive in the NFL. Then you have Isaiah Thomas,

885
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: whom the Browns drafted in the seventh round this year

886
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma, who led the Sooners and sacks in

887
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: each of the last two seasons. Second team All Big twelve,

888
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: and I can tell you Chris Kiffins impressed by him.

889
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: We did the Brown's Breakdown on on Isaach Isaiah Thomas

890
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: as well, very impressive. And then there's Curtis Weaver. So

891
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: you've got really, let's one, two, three, four or five, six, seven,

892
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: eight guys for four spots that all feel like they

893
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: have a legitimate chance to make this roster, but in

894
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: reality it's there's really one spot. You bring Tach McKinley

895
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: into the mix. You know, maybe we keep five defensive ends. Yeah,

896
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: but it's that's a that's a loaded room with real

897
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: depth and real veteran depth of guys who have played

898
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: in the league and stuck in the league. Let's you

899
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: stick around the NFL for five years. You're doing something right, Yeah,

900
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: you do. And it's interesting, Like I remember a year ago,

901
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about Curtis Weaver, like making the step

902
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: transforming his body. You just want at some point it's

903
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: got to go. You know, there's been bad luck and

904
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: other things, but at some point, like it feels like now,

905
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: now or never. He's very and he's very well liked

906
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: in the building. He does work very hard. He made

907
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: his NFL debut last year against cinc and we Gaateen

908
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: six snaps, one quarterback pressure, So there's been limited exposure,

909
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: but he's been in the system now and he knows

910
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: everybody here. If he does feel like now or never

911
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: when you feel like he and Isaiah Thomas are kind

912
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: of competing for one spot as the young developmental guy, right,

913
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is kind of an hour never situation

914
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: for a guy who was incredibly productive at Boise State.

915
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Incredibly productive. All right, let's get into the biggest questions

916
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: per Gibby. What different combinations might we see this season

917
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: under the return of coach Chris Kiffin. I think it's

918
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna be similar to what we did last year in

919
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: the sense that your base is gonna be clowning Garrett

920
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: outside two defensive tackles inside. Last year it was the Maliks.

921
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: They're both gone, So now you know Brian and Winfrey

922
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: and el It and Togi I and Sheldon Day feel

923
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: like they're in the mix. We will see I think

924
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the same three defense then, And I

925
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: would go so far as to say I believe that

926
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: this year we could see because of what Alex Wright

927
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: can do with his size four defensive ends. I think

928
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: that there will be an obvious passing situations where we

929
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: will go all four defensive ends because Right can play inside,

930
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Clowney and Garrett can play inside, and then you can

931
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: have Chase as a as a rusher off the edge

932
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: with one of the other guys. So I think that

933
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: is absolutely in the mix this year. Number two from giving,

934
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: How does Ricky Alex Right fit into the mix? You

935
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: kind of answered that already as we as we talked

936
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: about Alex in terms with his versatility and the things

937
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: that he can do. Which defensive tackle are you looking

938
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: to step up the most? I think it's it's it's

939
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: as you alluded, it's wide open, but real pressure on

940
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: on some of these guys too. You know, some of

941
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: these guys, this is the only position group there. This

942
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: used to be kind of regular. It's the only position

943
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: group in the roster where you feel like, in some

944
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: instances you could either start or not make the team.

945
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: There's nothing else like that. We used to do that

946
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot. There should be a lot of positions that

947
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: had that. This is the only one that has it.

948
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Now it's now we're never a guy like Jordan Elliott.

949
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: It feels like it's now we're never for him. You know,

950
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: he's got to show that he can be the guy here.

951
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: And you know, I I they liked Davin Bryan. They

952
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: like what they've seen from him so far. As I said,

953
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: they feel like he's a perfect fit for what we

954
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: want to do on defense and didn't get necessarily a

955
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: chance to showcase the skills that will be showcased here.

956
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: So you're hoping that that is one where our depart

957
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: our scouting department did a great job. Baco Nation in

958
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the house as our scouting department did a great job

959
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: identifying a guy who has the talent and the fit

960
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: for what we do, but wasn't getting utilized the right way.

961
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of pressure on all those guys.

962
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: Alex right, you know, and in the question, ez that

963
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: going to transition defense, heckle. But he could line up

964
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: inside in some pass rushing situations given the fact that

965
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: he's six five to seventy. So he's a big guy,

966
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: a bigger body. And I think the truth is you

967
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: if if teams are saying, oh boy, we're in third

968
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: and eleven and the Browns won four defensive ends, boy,

969
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: maybe we can run a draw here. Fine, go ahead, yeah, absolutely,

970
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Last one, which player on the D line outside of

971
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Miles and Clowney has to have a good year. I

972
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: think there's got to be somebody that steps up in

973
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: the interior that is just a constant force for the

974
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: Browns in the interior the defensive line. I think that,

975
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: to me is probably the most important thing. I think

976
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: clearly the Browns, through a great deal of research, are

977
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: telling you what they think about just you know, unless

978
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: you have a dominant interior pass rusher, that's not a

979
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: position that's going to be invested in very heavily, especially

980
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: not for the guys that can run stop. You can

981
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: fill in people there, and the Browns like to get

982
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: as many defensive ends on the field. But if a

983
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: guy like Perry on Winfrey can end up being a

984
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: great pass rusher for them, or Jordan Elliott, that will

985
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: be very, very helpful for this football team. Absolutely so.

986
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Gonna be an incredible position battle to watch at defensive

987
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: tackle every single day next week once we start camp. Alright,

988
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: eleven ten Most Intriguing Teams continues. We center on Green

989
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: Bay and the Packers Robbed Demoski of ESPN occurring from

990
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: from the Packers on that side of things will join us.

991
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998
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: centers on the Green Bay Packers. And intriguing because when

999
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: you think about the most the teams that are the

1000
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: most accomplished in the NFC from the last couple of years,

1001
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, the Rams super Bowl champions. Obviously, the

1002
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Packers have have won as many games, are more than

1003
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: any of them. Um, they haven't gotten all the way through.

1004
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: They've lost home playoff games. But all of the teams

1005
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: in the NFC, to me, it feels like at the top,

1006
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: they've all taken little steps back. I mean, the Rams

1007
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: have had attrition, the Bucks have had attrition, the Packers

1008
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: have had attrition. Like I don't even know, necessarily, it

1009
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: feels like it'd be one of those three, but I

1010
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: don't even know who else kind of has moved. Who's

1011
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: ascend the Bucks for the most part, though, are still

1012
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: pretty wronged, no wrong at some point four now it's

1013
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: something right. At some point, Brady's gotta be forty five

1014
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: years old. Look at some point that you know, you

1015
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: feel like it's some Packers receiving corps. Looks different than

1016
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: it has looked at any time. I mean, you think

1017
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: about the fact that Davantae Adams has been the leading

1018
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: receiver on the Packers every year since two thousand and seventeen.

1019
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: He's no longer on the football team, so that is

1020
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: a completely different looking situation for them than it was

1021
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: their last three years. They go thirteen and three, thirteen

1022
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: and three thirteen and four. They won their division all

1023
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: three years, and yet they lose in the conference to

1024
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship in nineteen, NFC Championship in twenty and

1025
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: in the divisional round in twenty one. They haven't been

1026
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl since they won it in two

1027
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: thousand and ten, which you never would have thought at

1028
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: that time. Let's get some perspective on the Packers. Rob

1029
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Demowsky covers the Packers for ESPN. Rob, thank you so

1030
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: much for taking the time. We were talking about UM

1031
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: juxtaposed to the a f C, which is just a

1032
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: snake pit of young ascending teams. You look around the

1033
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: NFC and it's like, boy, it's the Bucks, the Packers

1034
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: and the Rams. All of them feel like, I don't

1035
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: know that are any of them better than they were

1036
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: a year ago from an overall talent standpoint, but one

1037
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: of them has got to win it. It feels like

1038
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: what what what is the feeling in Green Bay abound

1039
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: the Packers this year heading into camp. Yeah, it's kind

1040
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: of weird. I heard you guys talking about just you know,

1041
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: their thirteen win seasons, they're two losses in the NFC

1042
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: Championship Game, lost last year as the number one seed,

1043
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: home field advantage if you could get to the title game.

1044
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's all most like people here are like

1045
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: who cares about the regular season because it hasn't gotten

1046
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: us anywhere? You know, they're pretty people are pretty sure.

1047
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the NFC North and

1048
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: you've got you know, Minnesota, Chicago with new regimes, Detroit

1049
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: is what they have been for a while. The NFC

1050
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: North's almost a foregone conclusion, but it's what you do

1051
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: with it afterwards, and they've got to somehow figure out

1052
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: um what they need to do better, to play better

1053
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: in in January, and I mean you you know each one,

1054
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: you look at them individually and there's certainly different reasons

1055
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: that they that they failed. Uh, you know, special teams, meltdowns.

1056
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: Uh this past year, Aaron Rodgers playing poorly, which might

1057
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: be putting it kindly in the game against San Francisco,

1058
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: and then the previous years where it's been you know,

1059
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: defensive meltdowns where they just can't stop anybody. And but somehow,

1060
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: some way they just got to figure out. You know,

1061
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: we've got this recipe for success in the regular season,

1062
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: why hasn't it translated to to the postseason? And because

1063
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: of what you mentioned in the NFC, you know they're

1064
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna be back here, right, They're going to be back

1065
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: in a tournament. Um, it's just a matter of what

1066
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: they can do to get through it. When you mentioned

1067
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: that recipe, a lot of it was Aaron Rodgers to

1068
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: Davante Adams that is no longer on the menu, that

1069
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: is not a packer special at this time. What do

1070
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: you make of this receiving corps that has a completely

1071
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: new look due in large part to the fact that

1072
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Adams was a one man wrecking crew and he no

1073
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: longer being a packer. Yeah, interesting staff from I was

1074
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: just actually looking at this for the SPN status and

1075
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: information today. Adams was targeted on his pass routes. That's

1076
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: the highest rate of any receiver in the league. Uh,

1077
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: that's over the last four years. So it's not just

1078
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: one year, right, Like, it's just it's been this way

1079
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: for the last four or five years with this guy. Now.

1080
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: The odd thing is, and this is really odd, that

1081
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: Adams has missed seven games in the last three seasons

1082
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: since Mattlafloor has been the coach. What do you think

1083
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: their record is in those seven games? I mean, given

1084
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: that they've only lost ten periods, So I'm gonna say

1085
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: they're probably seven and oh based on the way you asked,

1086
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: But I would really have guessed yeah, seven and all.

1087
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Like and Rogers has said it, like when we asked

1088
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: him about it at one point last season, He's like,

1089
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: we're not a better team without Davante Adams, you know.

1090
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: But like if you look at their record, and even

1091
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: if you look at the production in those games, like Rogers,

1092
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: completion percentage, yardage is touchdown tall still about the same

1093
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: um And I am not in any way suggesting there

1094
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: are a better team without davat Apps. That is not

1095
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But they have managed to figure out

1096
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: a way, uh to win without him. And look, Rogers

1097
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: has a tendency to force the ball to Adams to

1098
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: stop playing, and which is odd because he never forces

1099
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: the ball to anybod And like that's his whole deal

1100
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: is he's ultra cassius. If you go back and look

1101
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: at the last play of the San Francisco game in

1102
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he threw to Aaron Rodgers through the Davante

1103
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Adams and basically double coverage down the sideline. He had

1104
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard wide open for what would have been a

1105
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: third down conversion to keep the chains move moving. Maybe,

1106
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: just maybe he will take some of those checkdowns or

1107
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: short throws or whatever they need be a little bit

1108
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: more often this year, knowing he doesn't have Davante Adams.

1109
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: But if you look at that receiving corps, you know,

1110
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: the guy I mentioned, Lozard, he's really the only quote

1111
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: unquote wide receiver number one possibility that they have. Now, um,

1112
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: you know they drafted three guys, Christian Watson being the

1113
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, the highest in the second round, Um, there's

1114
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick that they really really like, Romeo Dubbs,

1115
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: and he just he looks the part. I mean, you're

1116
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: just walking around. He looks like a receiver, you know.

1117
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: And then the only veteran addition they made with Sammy Watkins,

1118
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: who basically hasn't been almost healthy for the last four three,

1119
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: four or five years. Um. So it's not like there's

1120
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: a guy where you're gonna say okay. You know they're

1121
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna be okay because they have this and this, but um,

1122
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: they still have Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon in

1123
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: the backfield, and um, you know those guys are pretty

1124
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: good too. Uh, you know in a different way. Rob

1125
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, you go back here, you could, you'd throw

1126
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a banana. Mr Fusion. You go back in time a

1127
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: year and you say, well, Rodgers is clearly gonna be

1128
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: done in Green Bay and will be George loves team.

1129
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: Um and now here we sit a year later. What

1130
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: is it ben like to cover Rogers and the Packers

1131
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: in this this era that you're in right now? What

1132
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: is this like for you day to day? It's always interesting? Um,

1133
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: for one, I mean that is uh, you know, Rogers

1134
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: keeps it interesting. And um, you know, look from a

1135
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: football standpoint, you know you're gonna see a guy do

1136
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: something that you know, maybe not a lot of people

1137
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: can do, and you see it fairly regularly. From an

1138
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: off the field standpoint, Um, you know, it's just it's

1139
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's difficult to cover because

1140
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: he's not. He's pretty readily available. Um. He just sometimes

1141
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, he went from a guy who early in

1142
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: his career never said anything too Now sometimes you wonder

1143
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: why the heck is he saying that or or why

1144
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: does he play games in terms of you know, his

1145
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: use of language, like like for example last summer when

1146
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: we asked him if he was vaccinated and he said, yeah,

1147
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I've been immunized. You know, like why why is it

1148
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: sometimes does he do that kind of thing? I don't know. Um,

1149
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: but I will say this from covering a guy, uh standpoint,

1150
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: it's always interesting because more often than not, there's gonna

1151
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: be something news. Really there's no doubt about that. And

1152
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: what's it like covering and this is something we are

1153
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: I think it's so unique about Aaron Rodgers said, it's

1154
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: never a dull moment. He's going to use the language

1155
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: when questions you ask him. But he's as far as

1156
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: I know, and both correctly if I'm wrong, But he's

1157
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: only quarterback. Where I think player of any type of

1158
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: consequence who does a weekly kind of unfettered, unharnessed interview

1159
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: with McAfee, what is well because of a j hawk

1160
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: to a lifelong buddy, like he goes to vacation in Dublin,

1161
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: Ohio for crying out, it's crazy. I don't know, is

1162
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: that an interesting thing because nobody else does that. You

1163
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: get more out of him than any other player in

1164
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: the league. No. The first year that he did it

1165
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: with McAfee, I remember, I think it was The New

1166
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: York Times in Wall Street Journal, UM did a story

1167
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: on the dynamic of it, and the reporter called me

1168
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like, you know, does it

1169
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: bother you that he's talking to McAfee before he talks

1170
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: to you guys during the week. And I would say

1171
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: the first year, no, because it was such a different deal.

1172
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: It was it was more entertainment than there was newsworthy

1173
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know how old you guys are, but

1174
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I like him. It to the old Saturday Night Live

1175
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: skit where Chris Farley was a talk show host, and

1176
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: he had Paul McCartney and he would be like, he

1177
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: was like, remember remember where you were? You were in

1178
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: the Beatles. Wasn't that great? Yeah, that's kind of what

1179
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: it was like the first year. And I don't mean

1180
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: that as you know, Pat Back saw that and he's like,

1181
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a complimentary criticism. I don't

1182
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: mean it as a criticism at all. It was just entertaining.

1183
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: But then when things got serious with you know, first

1184
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: of all Rogers not wanting to be here, then the

1185
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: vaccination thing. You know, then if he came all right, well,

1186
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: now I gotta watch this for different reasons because I'm

1187
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: most likely gonna have to write write something on in

1188
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: or go on Sports Center and talk about it. So

1189
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: from those standpoints, um, you know, like I went from

1190
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: listening to it on Tuesdays, which, as you guys knows,

1191
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: mostly everyone's day off in the NFL. I went from

1192
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: listening to it on Tuesday's while I was in the

1193
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: grocery store running errands, to then listening to it while

1194
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at my computer. Yeah. Yeah, wild fascinating stuff.

1195
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: So what is it? You know? So we go from

1196
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: a year ago where it's divorced to now, listen, we're

1197
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: all back together, We're all he's again. La Fleur is

1198
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: still there. I mean, they clearly get along very well

1199
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: in terms of on the field. The perception was that

1200
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: it all couldn't coexist. How's it all different now? And

1201
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: and what what makes Packer fan? What's the narrative that says, well,

1202
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: this is the year they go get it done and

1203
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: win it all. Yeah. I mean I think if you

1204
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: go back to last summer when Rogers laid out all

1205
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: of his grievances, when he came back and that that

1206
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: press conference, which I actually give him a lot of

1207
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: credit for. Um, you know, there were obviously all the

1208
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: reports during the off season, none of them had any

1209
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: quotes for Rogers in them, and I kind of they

1210
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: were all true obviously, but I I kind of wondered

1211
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: if he would come back and do the whole all

1212
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: you guys made the out to be a big deal.

1213
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: It really wasn't. But he actually came back and he

1214
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: literally literally said this is why I was unhappy. Uh,

1215
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, there was they didn't consult me on this.

1216
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: They didn't consult me on that. I think we could

1217
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: have done this differently or that differently. He laid them

1218
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: all out and I remember asking him at the time,

1219
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: I said, so, do you have any assurances that things

1220
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: will actually change? He said, I don't know. Well, by

1221
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: the end of the season, I think he could answer

1222
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: the question differently and say, yeah, they did change, and

1223
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: he felt like he was more involved in certain things.

1224
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, they hired his favorite quarterbacks coach this

1225
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: offseason to come back here, come out of retirement, Tom Clemons.

1226
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: He was one of one of the guys who coached

1227
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Rodgers and developed them early on because they had some

1228
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: staff turnover with na Samuel Hacket getting the head coaching

1229
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: job at Denver, offensive cordinator Luke getsie Go in Chicago,

1230
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: he was the quarterbacks coach here and became offensive coordinator,

1231
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: and they went out and basically hired the guy that

1232
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wanted them to hire. Um. So, you know,

1233
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: little things like that, uh changed. I mean we would

1234
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: joke when we'd see him in the GM, you know,

1235
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: on the field talking like that. This was they were

1236
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: having their weekly personnel meeting where Rogers would, you know,

1237
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: tell him who he wants or what he wants to do.

1238
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: But but you know, I say that jokingly, but he

1239
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: was more involved and that's what he wanted. He wanted

1240
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: I believe his quote was, I want to be involved

1241
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: in decisions that direct affect my ability to do my job.

1242
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: And you know, that's what they've done for him. And

1243
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, at least for now, that

1244
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: that's satisfactory through the lens of the fact that here

1245
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: we are about start two season. Rogers won each of

1246
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: the last two m v p s. If I'm not mistaken,

1247
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: back to back m v ps. They used the first

1248
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: round pick in on Jordan's love a quarterback. Who is

1249
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: it feels like it's not going to see the field

1250
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: barring an injury or a missed game for who knows

1251
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: what reason. How is is first of all, is Jordan's

1252
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: love good? Is he somebody that maybe has a potential

1253
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: to play in the National Football League? Or was this

1254
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: just a completely in my mind? You look at you say,

1255
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: how is this not a wasted pick? In the Would

1256
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: there have been a position player that helps you win

1257
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: in the NFC championship game? Instead you have a first

1258
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: rounder sitting on the bench. No, you're right, we think

1259
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: all those things are good points I think as far

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Speaker 1: as is he a good player, I don't think we

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: know that yet. Um, I don't. I think we have

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01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: evidence to suggests that he's not going to be great.

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01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he only had the one start last year

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: in Kansas City when Rogers was out with COVID and

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: they scored what seven points? Um. He also finished the

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: regular season finale the second half against Troit, which was

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: a meaningless game, didn't you know, through a couple of interceptions.

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Speaker 1: But I will coume you to say that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: until the third year of Rogers time that I thought

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Speaker 1: and that anybody really thought that, Okay, they got something here.

1271
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Speaker 1: But I mean, look, science, it's it's not looking great

1272
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: right now. The best thing for the Packers and for

1273
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Love probably is for to him to go out

1274
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: and play great in this preseason because Rogers doesn't play

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: preseason games, so he'll get a ton of time if

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01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: he lights it up in preseason and then either doesn't

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01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: have to play in the regular season or if he

1278
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: does plays well and then next March they can trade him.

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01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the best and maybe they get

1280
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: a you know, a second or third or fourth round pick.

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: Club that's probably the best case scenario, unless he does

1282
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: go out and play really well and Rogers decides at

1283
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: the end of the year that this is it. I mean,

1284
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: he signed that three year extension, but even he said,

1285
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: he goes Look that's what it says on paper. That

1286
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that I'm gonna be here that long.

1287
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, Rogers retires after this year, and Love shows

1288
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: promise during his time this season, and then that he

1289
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: does get a shot at the successor. But you know,

1290
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: right now, all of those things are on the table

1291
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: for Jordan's Love and and he But the most important

1292
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: thing is he's actually got a show that he can play.

1293
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: Otherwise it probably is a wasted pick. Rob. I'll get

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01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: you out of here on this one best case scenario

1295
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: this season and floor scenario it all goes bad. What what?

1296
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: How big is that gap? And paint me a picture

1297
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: of the best and worst case scenarios. Yeah, look, I said,

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Speaker 1: I think I wrote this when the schedule came out,

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't think they're gonna win thirteen games

1300
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: again this year like they have the past three years.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win fourteen. I mean, their schedule

1302
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: is it's not very difficult. Um. Their division is terrible.

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: Outside of the division, and they play you know, it

1304
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: seems like the Giants, Jets, Washington, Uh, Eagles, Dolphin. I mean,

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: they don't have a great they don't have a difficult

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: stutural um. You know. So I think there's their ceiling

1307
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: is almost unlimited. Um. You know, I think where things

1308
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: go wrong, you know, for one thing, if Roger's gets

1309
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: hurt and you know, I mean somebody joked with me

1310
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: he's about due for another broken collar bone. I mean

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: he broke it thirteen, broke it seventeen, and uh, you know,

1312
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: if that happens again, they're probably in big trouble. So um.

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01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: But borring that, you know, borring a Rodgers injury, you know,

1314
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't think they're they're in any danger of missing

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01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: the PLAFS. Rob, great stuff man, thanks for the time today.

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01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: That Yeah, you guys got a good luck all right.

1317
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: That's Rob Demosky covers the Packers for ESPN. I mean,

1318
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: you see why the layers of that are so fascinating.

1319
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, part of it is, you know, and it's

1320
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: this NFL outpost. In terms of the size of the town,

1321
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: it's one of the most important franchises in the history

1322
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: of American sports. Um, the passion is there, the branding,

1323
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: all of it. They've got these generational players at quarterback

1324
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: over the last forty years, they've won just two Super

1325
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: Bowls with them, and so they want enough to where

1326
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: it's not like bust. But it also feels wildly underachieving.

1327
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: The fact that they had far Vin Rodgers and I

1328
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: mustard just the two with that quarterback wild and I

1329
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: think they haven't even been there. Aaron Rodgers not played

1330
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: in another Super Bowl since two thousand and ten everywhere

1331
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: and and lost four I believe NFC championship games since

1332
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: that time. It is wild. The fact that you know,

1333
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: again they could have drafted receiver in the first round.

1334
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: They didn't. We didn't talk about that, but they selected

1335
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Jordan love In in the first round when you're in

1336
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: the window. Was Jefferson then when they picked her just

1337
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: before I think I think right for he went like eighteen.

1338
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: But there were still tons of they could have been

1339
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: taken in that draft and they decided not to, and

1340
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: here we are. It's it's a fascinating one, I think

1341
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: it is. It's yeah, a stunner that you would say

1342
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is only going to have likely it feels

1343
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: like right now the one Super Bowl. Now maybe this

1344
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: year they can get back there. Um, but we'll see.

1345
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: I have a question i want to ask you about

1346
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: the NFC, and I'm curious what your answer will be.

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Speaker 1: Tell them that both sent you on that This was

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Speaker 1: the question I want to ask you when we were

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Speaker 1: in the conversation as Rob was going to hop on

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Speaker 1: there with us, who is if you're an investor, Okay,

1369
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: who would you invest in in the NFC over the

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: next five to ten years? Give me a stock. I

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: would probably invest in the forty niners. I would invest in.

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: I'd take a flyer a little bit of a little

1373
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: bit of an investment into Arizona, and then I'd put

1374
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: because it's a penny stack right now, I'd put a

1375
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: little bit into Atlanta with the idea that they land

1376
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: Stroud or Bryce and the rest of the NFC South

1377
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: has nothing to offer because Brady is going to retire.

1378
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: So the two that the two that you went first,

1379
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: or the first two that I thought of too, like

1380
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: I bet on just forty Niners are run really well,

1381
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: and they seem to like Lance, but we haven't seen him.

1382
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: So it's a risky investment. You know, there's nothing to

1383
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: lead us to believe that that Trey Lance will be

1384
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: any sort of star or anything other than just well,

1385
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: they their coach really well and they seem to draft well.

1386
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: So everybody who plays for Kyle becomes That's that's kind

1387
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: of it. But we don't no, like in terms of

1388
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: the ceiling of it, you have no, you really don't

1389
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: have any idea. We've never really seen him play. And

1390
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: then the Arizona bet, I'm with you, they're the only

1391
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: other team. They're the second team I thought of those

1392
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: two are one in one A. But you're also betting

1393
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: on an ownership group that's never really won anything, or

1394
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: coaches or anything. Yeah, coach who's never won anything, like,

1395
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, not the most stable of organizations. And then

1396
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: it's a flyer like Penny Stock on Atlanta. Well, and

1397
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting because my Penny Stock would might have been

1398
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Seattle for the same reasons because they have everything else,

1399
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: just really bad land on a guy in a way

1400
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: they've won previously. Who knows, Pete's getting old. But you

1401
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: go around this, you will go around the NFC. There's

1402
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: nothing there, man, No, there's nothing. There's really nobody in

1403
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,879
Speaker 1: the NFC East. You know, Dallas would be an overpriced

1404
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: stock anyway. So that's not one that I would want

1405
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 1: to invest in. I don't buy in the quarterback situation

1406
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: with Philly, Philly, Washington and Washington. I mean, look, Philly

1407
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: would be the team that if I were taking a

1408
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: flyer in that division, that's so I'd be. It's a

1409
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: well run organization, They've got good weapons, and if Jalen

1410
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: Hurts can progress, then they could be all They can

1411
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: be all right in the South. I said Atlanta because

1412
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm at Tampa at this point. Yeah, that would be

1413
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: a one year investment. You're hoping they win it. There's

1414
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: nothing that says for sure New Orleans is going to

1415
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: be great in any type of time frame. There's nothing

1416
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: that says Tampa once Brady retires is going to maintain

1417
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 1: it's great, and it's got a lot of players that

1418
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,520
Speaker 1: came there to play with him. Will probably leave. Carolina

1419
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's set up for success and may

1420
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: have a new head coach next year, and so that

1421
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: leaves Atlanta, which is likely to land perhaps a franchise

1422
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: changing quarterback and overtime would get there. The irony of

1423
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: what your question is is that in the a f C,

1424
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: it would be impossible to you'd want to invest in

1425
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: a ton of teams. Yeah, you feel about the future.

1426
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Good about the future of ten teams in the in

1427
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: the a f C. Very very good. Um yeah, like

1428
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: you you know, you could talk yourself into if you

1429
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: loved fields. But I don't trust at all what's around

1430
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: him or what that organization is about. Like the Lions

1431
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: aren't a bad call. I kind of keep coming back

1432
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: to them just because I think they have some nice pieces,

1433
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: But it's the ceiling isn't high right now. I mean

1434
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: it's but I think the floor has gone up on them. Um,

1435
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota feels like it's come and went. That's sorry. I'm

1436
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 1: on Dallas feels like the time they missed it. I

1437
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: think there was a window where they had all the

1438
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: offensive talent in the world. Dead got hurt and so

1439
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: they weren't able to capitalize on it. But they don't

1440
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: have a Marie Cooper anymore. And Cee Lamb is really good,

1441
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: but but they they aren't as good offensive. Zeke isn't

1442
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: what he was three years ago, not even the best

1443
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: running back on their team. No, So it's like they're

1444
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: not a team to invest in. The Vikings are. I

1445
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: went over them a little bit New Orleans is hanging

1446
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: on by a threat like the Vikings, but it's a ceiling.

1447
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: That's it feels that there was also I am curious

1448
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: though they're a team that I would actually throw a

1449
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: little bit on because I'm curious with a better coach.

1450
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: Did you read all the stuff about how zimmer like

1451
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: undermined Cousins and was crud to him and hated him,

1452
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, the offenses were was great two years in

1453
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: a row, and the defense really three years in a row,

1454
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: and the defense was terrible the last two years. I

1455
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: wonder what the hell, Kevin O'Connell's smart guy? You got

1456
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: quazy over there? Like, do they end up running their

1457
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: organization better? And is that a team that because once

1458
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: Rodgers decides to go, let's say Rogers size to go

1459
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: after this year, that division is wide open. Well the

1460
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: crazy Yeah, I like Detroit a little bit more than Minnesota.

1461
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: Futures futures problem, Okay, that's assuming that GoF becomes it

1462
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: is good. If God can become Cousins, I like Detroit

1463
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: better than Minnesota too. Yeah, because you um, the interesting

1464
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: thing about like if Rogers does, here's the other thing

1465
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: about it. The other problem is is the known commodities

1466
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: in the NFC. It stands through the hourglass. It's Rogerson,

1467
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: Green Bay, definitely, Sands, It's absolutely the Bucks of course,

1468
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: and even the Rams with their model. It's it's longer.

1469
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: There isn't that just young like we could be a

1470
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: force for a decade in the NFC and less trade

1471
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: lance is what Kyle Shanahan wants them to be. I

1472
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: think the rest of the Niners is significantly better than

1473
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the Cardinals. That's just me, but that's

1474
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Like if you let's just say,

1475
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: for example, I'll take one of these guys, take let's

1476
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: take Burrow, because let's get him out of the divisions.

1477
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: We have to deal with him. Put Burrow on Seattle

1478
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: right now. I'd say, put them on Detroit right now.

1479
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:34,480
Speaker 1: I think they're interesting. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I mean conversely,

1480
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you could you don't even have to

1481
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: go that extreme. You could even go on the Eagles

1482
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence on the Eagles right now.

1483
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence on the Seahawks right now. Like there there

1484
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: isn't anything here. These are all dwinning the investments at

1485
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: some point, like the Rams have a window right now,

1486
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: but the whole thing is predicated on we gotta sign

1487
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: veterans for cheap every year to replenish this model because

1488
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: we're not drafting anybody. No, they're so not not early anyway. Yeah,

1489
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: the Lords one is interesting to me because we both

1490
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: thought he was so good and it's kind of without

1491
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: precedent that he had a completely wasted year in the

1492
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: league while playing for a completely incompetent staff and being

1493
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: unprepared in every way possible that I wonder. I guess

1494
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: he just gonna come out and be awesome this year

1495
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: with Peterson definitely definitely in play. And they have nice weapons.

1496
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: So you paid a lot for Christian Kirk, I'll tell

1497
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, yeah, they have they have nice weapons.

1498
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: And I think that division is there that divisions. No,

1499
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: we've never had that. We've never had a situation where

1500
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: a guy. Usually when someone like that is drafted, somebody

1501
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: knows it's gonna be drafted. So the people who coached

1502
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: them are absurdly competent. There are many instances where they're

1503
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: not agreed. Let me throw one more at Burrow since

1504
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: we're getting mad sin sinnate. What if you dropped Joe

1505
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: Burrow into Miami right now, are they the favorites? I'm

1506
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: that is a low that rosters that would be like

1507
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: it's injuring. Not that I have any interest in any

1508
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: more great quarterbacks coming to our side of things, but

1509
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: like when you said, what if Rogers gets out of

1510
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay? Like and then I'm thinking, I said, we

1511
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: where's the land? Because the most likely places were always

1512
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: Denver I think felt like the most likely. Well that's

1513
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: done now, So like then is it Miami like Miami

1514
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: set up Miami Philly in terms of like just get

1515
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: us a quarterback. They're ready to go. Yeah, they're absolutely

1516
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: ready to go. They have everything else that you need. Um,

1517
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean I could see him. I don't want him

1518
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: in the in the a f C. We can't have that.

1519
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: Stay in the NFC as long as possible, but it's

1520
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: a stunning drop off. It's stunning. It's you need they need.

1521
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: The NFC needs Kyler and they need Lance to be

1522
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 1: dudes because Fields is not gonna be put in a

1523
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: position to be a dude. He's just not no, not

1524
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: right now, no, um, all right, Corey Benjamin Cody Benjamin

1525
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: Rather rated all thirty two rosters ahead of camp. We'll

1526
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: tell you where he has us coming next for us

1527
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: to Cleveland esp in Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on fIF

1528
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: e s B N Cleveland. I feel like we've dealt

1529
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: with this Cody Benjamin character a few times from CBS

1530
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: Sports this offseason. Give it you like him a character?

1531
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: This characters need the show, like he needs to be

1532
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: put on trial because I feel like he ranks a

1533
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: lot of things, and so I never read any of

1534
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: it because when I go to this website, there's a

1535
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: thousand pop ups and you can't even scroll through. You

1536
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: can't even get through it, Like it's just it's brutal. Um.

1537
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: But he, I'll tell you what. The kid, the man,

1538
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: he loves to rank, and so he ranks. Now he's

1539
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: ranking all thirty two rosters at a camp. So he

1540
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: has us at fifteen. Now, I have no idea how

1541
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: based on what you know right now, you would claim

1542
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: this to be the fifteenth best roster in the NFL. Well,

1543
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: do you want to hear? Can I read his opening

1544
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: statement for the people? Cleveland has been hailed as one

1545
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: of the best deepest rosters in the NFL. And it's true. Okay,

1546
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: this is the this is the task ranking the rosters

1547
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: best and deepest. That's not the middle of the league.

1548
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: That's not fifteen. And he says, and it's true, there's

1549
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: no shortage of weapons on both sides of ball. Chub Cooper, Garrett, Usu, Cormo, Denzel,

1550
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: a Ward, all proven a rising stars. So here's where

1551
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: he comes into his being this hold on. But the

1552
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: receiving corps beyond uh Cooper is thin, Okay, fair, the

1553
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: line lost center J. C. Treader fact. But Nick Harris,

1554
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: they feel obviously very comfortable in his replacement. And by

1555
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: the way, you put the tape on at a great

1556
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: game and his one start against the Green Bay Packers

1557
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: last year, and then here comes this one. Here comes

1558
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: this one. Bo. You're gonna play Carl, Benjaminay Cody, al right, Carl,

1559
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: what you say here is and I'm gonna read this

1560
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: quote to you. The secondary is still banged up. End quote, Carl.

1561
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: Who are the starting corners for the Cleveland Browns? Denzel

1562
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: and Greg? Okay? Okay, who's fourth? Emerson? Okay? Who's fifth?

1563
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: A J Green Carl? Are any of them hurt right now? No? Okay,

1564
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: let's go to Let's go to the safety room, Carl Delpitt,

1565
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: Johnson Harrison. Are any of them hurt? Where does this

1566
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: come from? Where does it come from? Where do you

1567
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: do that? Where do you they're still banged up? We're

1568
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: not Baltimore. We didn't have season any injuries in the secondary, lose,

1569
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: didn't lose both corners to catastrophic lower body injuries. That's

1570
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,839
Speaker 1: not what happened here. Nope, everybody's healthy. Ye, so strange.

1571
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: So Carl, why did you say that? What in the

1572
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: blue hell are you talking about? Bob? I don't get it.

1573
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't either. Now the next thing is part of it,

1574
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: But that's not what he's supposed to, he says. Most

1575
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: of all, the biggest asset of them all, new quarterback

1576
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson looks like a lock to miss significant

1577
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: time thanks to a suspension for blah blah blah. We

1578
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: all know what it's for. But here's the here's the

1579
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: for the extense of legal disputes involving the twenty three

1580
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: different accusation sexual assault misconduct. Jacoby said his likely replacement

1581
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: might be serviceable, but he's bounced around as a backup

1582
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: recently for time. It looks like a lock to miss

1583
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: significant time. Nobody knows anything on this unless you're having

1584
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: coffee with two. That's it. That's it. Nobody has a

1585
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: clue about any of this stuff. Um and if your

1586
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: task with ranking the rosters, he put the Ravens tenth.

1587
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens have a really the roster and

1588
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: they have two guys on the r they have the

1589
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: second area that actually is but he's like, oh so

1590
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: and so and so and so over it's her from injury.

1591
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: The Vikings a better roster? Is Denver a better roster

1592
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: than us? No, no roster like if you do, if

1593
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: you do roster, I think Buffalo. Let's do who do

1594
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: we think is better? Like just us playing a little game.

1595
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: You want me to go down the list here and

1596
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: read you Okay, give me his give me his number one? Buffalo,

1597
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: number two, the Chargers, okay, number three, the Rams, No, no,

1598
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so at quite a bit. Yeah, number four,

1599
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. This is where we're in this, we're in there,

1600
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: we're right here. The Bengals. I think you could say, fine,

1601
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 1: six Kansas City roster defense. I don't think so. I

1602
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: don't think so. They're either seven Dallas he not no

1603
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: white margin us yeah. Eight, Green Bay, No, I don't

1604
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: think so. Not top to bottom. No. Nine, Philly definitely. No.

1605
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: I like their roster. But the difference between Jalen Hurts

1606
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson is yes. Ten, is Baltimore eleven Denver comparable? Comparable?

1607
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean to me, it's like we're

1608
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: in that next group. We should have been like five

1609
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: or six, seven, somewhere between five and eight better than

1610
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: we have a better Russia in Las Vegas. Yeah, top

1611
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: to bottom yeah, Minnesota, Yes, Miami. Mhm. I mean that's

1612
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: just not that's just not Yeah. I don't know, it's

1613
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: just and it's based on this line. I mean, it's

1614
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: really all about Watson. But this line about the secondary

1615
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: is still banged up as silly. Where do you get

1616
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: that from? Come on, Cody, this was crazy, Carl, What

1617
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: is he doing? Um? This is from Peter Kings Football

1618
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Morning in America. Um and Killian is a writer in

1619
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Chronicle, wrote of Steph Curry eclipsing Joe

1620
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Montana as a pre eminent Bay Area athlete of her

1621
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: writing career. Um, you have said before that Bernie is

1622
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: more beloved here than Joe is there in fact, what

1623
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: do you make of this from the Curry Montana conversation.

1624
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I bet it's close. I think it is close, And

1625
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that look basketball, you know, as you know

1626
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: what your kids are super into basketball. I think that football,

1627
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: as big as it is now, was not as big

1628
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: in the eighties in terms of being the primary mover

1629
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: of sports culture. So I think that Joe Montana, for example,

1630
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: if he went on this run in this decade from

1631
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 1: two thousand ten to two thousand twenty, he's Tom Brady.

1632
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: He's the most recognizable athlete probably in the world. But

1633
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: because he did it in the eighties, it's different. Steph

1634
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: Curry for his sport is you know one of if not,

1635
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, you got Lebron, You've got Steph Curry. I

1636
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: think that this is if they played and did the

1637
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: exact same things that they did at the same time,

1638
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: there's no way, Steph Curry you could make the same

1639
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: But the fact is that Joe Montana play in the eighties,

1640
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe he's on the mind more than that.

1641
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: People I think this was are the moment because if

1642
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: you did this in the nineties, you would have said bonds, bonds,

1643
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: right when he was breaking all the records, you got bonds.

1644
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He would have been it in the

1645
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: eighties and into the early nineties, which is Joe Montana's run, right.

1646
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: He was never the guy that was tabbed to be

1647
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 1: the marketing face of the NFL, despite how great he was.

1648
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: It just wasn't how it was done. It wasn't marketed

1649
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: that way. The league wasn't you And Michael Jordan was

1650
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: the biggest sports face period, not even at that time.

1651
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't he was ascending to that. Late eighties

1652
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: early nine would have been probably you know you're you're

1653
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: probably on the yeah, probably late eighties or yes, for sure,

1654
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: late eighties, early nineties. Yeah, it would have been Mike

1655
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: Tyson and and and Michael Jordan would have Yeah, I

1656
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: mean I would Jackson was huge and that The most

1657
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: marketed NFL player in my mind from that time was

1658
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: Dan Marino and I just remember isotone or Gloves Dands,

1659
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: But that was like it, Yeah, because Bo crossed over.

1660
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was incredib They pumped him a lot,

1661
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: but it was a short period um when he was Yeah, No,

1662
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember Montana on I never saw it.

1663
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: You never saw him on ads or anything like that.

1664
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: That wasn't anything that you saw. And and the NFL.

1665
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that. While sports is now

1666
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: a and the NFL in particular is a three, it

1667
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. And it happened in a four month period.

1668
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: It was Oh, here's the draft, and then that was

1669
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: then gone. Like it wasn't There weren't even like people

1670
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: at the draft. They were at home and there'd be

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Speaker 1: a call and oh, you're drafted. Cool. Totally different. So

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Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to compare. I think that if

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Speaker 1: you were talking to people of my age or my

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Speaker 1: dad's age, and my dad loves Steph Curry, but Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: that's at end of the discussion. But if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about younger generation, for sure, if you're probably talking about

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Speaker 1: older generation, they're all talking about William Mays. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good amount of Rushmore for that city, Maze, Bonds, Curry, Montana, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, Mazes prime in San Francisco or

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Speaker 1: in New York. New York is most of his primes

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Speaker 1: in New York, right, I don't think so. He definitely

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Speaker 1: played with the New York Giants. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if the majority of the prime is in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: If it was in New York. We'll get to the

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Speaker 1: answer that among the many things still ahead. Listen to Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Broad Cleveland, Cleveland, Browns, Daily sn Cleveland. All right, the

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Speaker 1: William mays, what what did it turn out? It was

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Speaker 1: twenty I think a twenty year career. Eighteen twenty year

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Speaker 1: career A long time. He was only an All Star

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Speaker 1: every year from nineteen nineteen seventy two when he was

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Speaker 1: forty one years of age. He was in New York

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Speaker 1: through fifty seven and then through seventy two in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: So would have come to San Francisco. And young Pedro

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Speaker 1: is just an eight year old boy, just a wee lad,

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Speaker 1: full of hope and dreams. Yeah, pretty good one. I

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Speaker 1: got this on social talking about the Mount Rushmore in

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Speaker 1: order Curry, Young Bonds, Montana Young Too, Young, Lincoln Role.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about you were talking about the guy

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Speaker 1: who barely finished outside of last melonsiding. He's there, he

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Speaker 1: is looking at him, Brad Malas back is back looking

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Speaker 1: at Ishid behind. He's in great shape. Let's go training camp, baby,

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Speaker 1: it's it's back. It's time. It's official. It's official. The

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Speaker 1: next level, it's coming up next. We're back tomorrow. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns Daily fifty, ESPN Cleal you've been listening to Cleveland

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