WEBVTT - Analyzing the Pick: Thumbs Up! 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.200 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:17.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:27.080 presentation of Dallas Cowboys Breaking News. Welcome to a special 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:32.560 addition of a podcast. I guess today after the first 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.839 round of the draft, and boy, what a hodgepodge of 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.760 talent do we have on this thing, if you can 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.360 even call this talent. But we have some experts and 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.680 I'm sure we all have big feelings in this room. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.720 Just raise a hands, just real quick before I introduce you, guys, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.440 who who's Who's okay with the pick? Okay? Who's good 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.080 with the pick? Who likes the pick? Okay? All right, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.560 well I will introduce you to everyone that likes good 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.080 That will be Rob hell Ups, Welcome to the show. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.560 Rob Phillips, Welcome to the show. Rob, welcome, Thank you, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.759 bless me, thank you. Uh Isaiah stand back? Is he 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:17.520 likes to pick? Nick? Eveman? What is good with the pick? 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.040 Good with the pick? You like to pick? You picked 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.720 a man in the magazine as you're or on the 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.200 website as you're Yeah, I thought's what I thought they 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.360 would pick. But I mean you have some concerns. We'll see, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.280 we'll see if you like it. But the thing is 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.520 is we need to talk about like this whole notion 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.520 of well they could have got him in the second round, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.119 that's a bunch of crap, Like they weren't gonna get him. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.080 They needed aligneman. He wasn't gonna be there and and 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.640 they that's who they needed to get. They must get alignement. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.320 I don't care what steven of them said. They needed 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.440 you know, it was a must, and they got him. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.040 Need must semantics. They needed a lineman. They needed a 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.080 guy who could play guard or at least compete right 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.640 away at guard um. But Nick Nick brings up a 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.920 good point because I think fans, maybe fans think that 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.440 they've got thirty two first round grades every year. They 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.720 had a low number. This year they had fourteen. Typically 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.680 it might be twenty, it might be a little less 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.120 than twenty. So that's why Jerry was hesitant to say 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.080 we had a second round grade on him, and he was. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.560 I think he was the second highest second round grade 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.760 that they had sixteenth overall on their board. But that's 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.040 that's why he said he's a first round player in 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.080 our minds because we couldn't have waited. I couldn't have you. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.519 On Wednesday, I was told he was the Tyler Smith 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.560 had the second highest second round grade on the board 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.359 and the highest one I think was the safety from 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.440 Georgia scene, so he was available. They could have taken him. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.679 He was the highest rated player on their board, and 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.840 from what I was told, and I think even what 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.040 Jerry kind of said, that was true. But then they 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.840 went with, you know, what's the need because they've signed 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.080 two safeties and they haven't signed an offensive alignment, so 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.120 obviously it was a bigger need and is Saia. I'll 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.360 ask you this. I mean, at some point you just 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.200 need a you just need a big effort get in 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.280 there and around. Well, you got that right. I can't 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.800 tell you how many times have I said on the 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.680 show on the previous talking cowboys that they need a 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.120 big nasty, they need a big time I mean, I 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.280 know we just mentioned beast. There's only one big nasty. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:27.359 What's that? Williamson is the big nasty. There's a couple. Yeah, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.320 you need I mean, you needed a guy that came 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.360 in there and that was gonna support It was gonna 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.680 be pretty much book in ty to be honest, right, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.040 you do you weren't ready to replace him yet, right, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.200 you knew he hasn't been bad enough for you to 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:39.960 go ahead and just move on from that project. He's 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.840 been good enough, right, I mean it's bad, what's what 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.760 I mean? But he hasn't. I don't think he's lost 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.800 you any ball games. So I think that you put 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.000 obviously you have all pro on it on the right side, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.680 you have all pro on the right side. You put 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.840 somebody else on the left side that can learn from Tyrn. Right, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.680 we know that he's not gonna be around forever, so 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.600 you need somebody that can play both positions potentially, because 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.320 we know how valuable wing tackles and versatile office of 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.160 a lineman r here with the Dallas Cowboys. So I 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.000 think that this was a perfect pick for them in 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.480 terms of who they were able to be able to 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.080 go out and grab. Yeah, you know, I I said, 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.920 there's I wrote this last night. There's a lot of 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.159 ways to label picks. We say, like, you know, best 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:22.839 available player, biggest need, um a now pick a later pick. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.359 I think this guy almost addresses all of that. I 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.279 think he was their biggest need. I think he I 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.240 think it was their best available player other than that 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.320 one safety. But I think, you know, he was their 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.400 best available player. I think he helps him now at guard. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.080 I think he helps him later. And then, like Isaiah said, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.640 a premier position and a weird thing too about this guy. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.200 It's gonna play left guard. Tyler Smith is gonna play 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.320 right next to a Tyler end a Smith. Yep, Tyron Smith. Yeah, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.760 that was That was a weird story I wrote last 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.039 night where it was like Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Tyre 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.680 and Tyler. I mean, I mean, I'm gonna screw that 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:01.719 up many times over the next twenty four months. Whoever 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.800 long real quickly, there's a tweet from Dane Brugler, friend 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.680 of the Draft show, and you know he puts out 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.640 the beast every year. He studies all these guys. He knows, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:16.000 you know. He said, Tyler Smith currently very raw, undisciplined hands, chaotic, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.320 chaotic timing leads to balance issues. But he said what 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.560 Nick just said, like he he can come in right away. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.320 You hope he can start at guard. I don't think 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.680 he's played as a high school played. He only had 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.359 twenty three starts at Tulsa, all at left tackle, But 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 that would be the hope. And Mike said he'll take 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.279 some reps at left tackle. I don't know if they 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.960 view him as a potential swing tackle or a insurance 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.680 policy for Tyrant if Tyrant missus games, which Tyrant has 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.599 not had a complete seasons is twenty fifteen. So there's that. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.080 And then there's the down the road thing that Nick 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.360 mentioned and Nick wrote about last night. So there's that. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.839 So I get why fans are don't like to pick 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.520 like you, they'll raise the hands at the start of 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.400 the show. I think there's fans that would not raise 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.280 their hand, and maybe they're thinking about Taco in twenty 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.600 seventeen to some degree because Taco didn't play a lot, 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.159 didn't start a lot of games at Michigan, didn't have 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.400 a lot of production. But the Cowboys said upside upside, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.920 that upside never showed up. They're counting on upside here, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.800 And I think what Will McClay said last night really 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.279 stuck out to me in terms of, you know, they 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.320 were kept getting asked about all the penalties he had 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.320 in college, and that's that's a problem that was a 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.360 problem here last year. But Will had a quote about 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.760 he's big. He's a big, athletic, physical man that's gonna 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.080 play in a big athletic, physical league. And that's what 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.279 we liked about him. You can't teach that. You can't 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.320 teach his size, his strength that I'm not sure, Isaiah, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.960 you can teach his temperament. Like you talked to him 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.480 on the phone last night, he talked about, I'm a 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.440 nasty physical player. I don't know if that necessarily can 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.760 be taught the NFL level. No, it's a mentality. It's 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.040 a mentality. And you know you saw his interviews um 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.400 last night when he was speaking about how that is 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.640 really bred in that total program. Right, It's taught, it's 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.479 expected in that program. So now you now, obviously you 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.440 go out and you get somebody who has a physical stature, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.400 who has the attributes that you're looking for at that 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.760 particular position, but also, like you said, having that tenacity, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.240 having that that kind of that dog that you were 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.320 talking about, the office of alignment and having big nasty. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.200 Big nasty doesn't necessarily mean like just a big physical man. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.920 It means like a mentality. Right. So when I was 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.480 here playing for Dallas, we had a whole line of 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.360 big nasties, right, We had a big, big Flow. He 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.040 was a mean, little bastard, right, and then you had nothing. Yeah, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.400 I know, I know he was so Flow was mean. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.640 He was a bully, little yeah, but Flow was a bullets. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.880 And then we had Leonard Davis. Leonard was a bully, right. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.480 He was a large human being, but he was a bully. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.360 Quite soft spoken guy, but he's gonna drive you in 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.320 the ground. Andrew Girard is the biggest bully I know, right, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.160 He's gonna try to hes gonna play nasty, he's gonna 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.000 do dirty stuff behind the scenes, like all those things 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.840 that you need. And then we had you know, Kylar, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.840 we had Kozar, and then we also had a big 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.119 big Colombo had a mind full of guys that wanted 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.160 to fight, like they just wanted to fight, and they 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.760 wanted they were they were hoping that you would say 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.640 something crazy to him because if they couldn't get you, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.280 their boy was gonna get you. And that's the type 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.000 of player. This guy feels like I feel like he is, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.920 you know. LYA. Collins was sort of that way as well, 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.600 and Connor Williams had a little bit of that to 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.080 him too, even he did. I mean, I mean, you 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.440 ask any of those guys who they would take into 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.640 a bar fight and his name came up a lot, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:15.000 and Connor Williams. I mean he fought Aaron Donald at practice, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.520 you know what I mean, he wasn't afraid of it. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.720 I mean, so those those guys, and you're right, you 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.560 have to replace them. But I do think that you know, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.080 from a just from a size standpoint, just stature alone. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.200 I mean, I've always think man that they don't push 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.360 people back, and I think he should be able to 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.160 do that. I was impressed with some of the tape 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.520 that I saw. Um, you know when I'm watching Tulsa, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.240 you know when I watched those highlights, any highlights anything. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.600 My biggest pet peeves don't show me against Arkansas Pine Bluff, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.199 like show me against you're an SEC team, show me 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.720 against Alabama Robert. And I liked some of the stuff 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.800 that I saw against Oklahoma State that he was playing 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.720 turning people inside, really used his body. And there's reps 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.240 out there on Twitter two where he's getting tossed around, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.280 but that that happens. He's he's twenty. He turned twenty 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.680 one three weeks ago. And I'm not comparing him to 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.079 Tyron Smith. But when they drafted Tiring eleven years ago, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.640 he was twenty years old. So they're looking at a 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.719 guy who's young, who hasn't played a lot, but they 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.080 see the physical traits and they think that the penalty 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:14.120 part of things can be coached away because they've done 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.160 that so well. Well this past year not so well, 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.319 but real quick, okay, okay, I go ahead. Well, I 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.960 would just say the counterpoint to that is, yes, that's 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.760 a huge problem. They can't have that continue. Like that's 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.280 that that helped cost them the playoff game. But if 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.199 you're going to knock him for that, let's let's point 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.559 out that, you know, Terrence Steals an undrafted rookie. In 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.680 the last two years now he's developed into a starter. Like, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.679 let's not say they can't develop lineman. And I think 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.520 they're develop right yotish right now. And with their track 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.560 record in the first round, I'm not saying he's necessarily 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.520 going to be a tyrant Smith through Zach Martin or 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.520 Travis Frederick. But maybe they should get a little bit 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.360 of a benefit of the doubt for what they've done 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.920 at that position in the first round over the last decade. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.240 And I think you also have to point this out too. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.040 He laid at Tulsa. His head coach is Philip Montgomery. Okay, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.400 I've known him in the past. He used to be 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.080 on the staff at Baylor. Art Brows and those guys 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.440 that that staff, that offense is different than other offenses. Okay, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.800 they they probably get They snapped the ball every fifteen seconds. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.080 They probably have three hundred more snaps than other teams do. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.960 So his twelve, his twelve penalties is a lot in 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.240 our stat but he's playing a lot now. When he 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.520 gives up two sacks, he only gives up two sacks. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.440 That's a stat that sounds all. That's a good stat. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.560 You could say, well, he's holding people that or he 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.240 would give up more sacks, or they get the ball 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.120 out so quick. So that's not a great stat for him. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.400 That like, he's only giving up two sacks because they're 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.200 not they're not playing long enough for that. So on 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.000 one hand, I think that the part about him not 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.160 giving up sacks is little misleading. I think the I 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.960 think the holding penalty is also misleading. He's having to 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.240 play a lot more football than other other guys are. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.959 It's get to the line, go go, go, get to 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.719 the line. Block black block, get to the line. That's 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.120 their offense, and so you gotta be a little careful 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.520 with judging for sure. And then but you also have 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.080 to take into it the fact that he's not going 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.000 to be on an island here in Dallas. He's not 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.760 gonna be on an island. He's gonna be between two 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.240 other large human beings, and he's gonna have support and 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.559 they're gonna work together in unit sense. When you're that 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.080 left tackle, you are literally on an island by yourself 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.400 unless you're down blocking. So he's gonna have more support 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.079 than he's had in the past. And whether the holding penalties, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.680 that's something they have to attack because that lost Connor 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.080 Williams's job last year obviously, But that'd be something that 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.439 he'll have a whole OTA's a work through. Who'll have 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.400 all of the camp to work through, so who'll have 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.480 an opportunity to come in and catch up with the 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.880 speed Phil Yeah, And I would say this, like, I 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.640 know our fans weren't ecstatic, or the majority of them 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.960 weren't exta. There were a few people cheering out on 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:45.920 the plaza. Just wait because if if you're basing this off, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:50.120 like who the guy is in offensive line, I'm not 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.840 going to bet against Will McClay in this staff when 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.280 it comes to drafting an offensive line in the first round. Look, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.319 remember a guy named Travis Frederick that everybody's like, oh 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.160 my god, who's this guy they reach for? This guy's 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:04.439 very similar first round? Yeah, very similar? Want, right, what 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.080 do they want? Michael Parsons, which you're not picking in 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.160 the top ten this year? And so everybody wants to 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.000 score points, but nobody wants to get always along. Here's 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.440 here's here's. Here's my question for y'all, because I think 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.640 I think our whole fan base was on board with 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.559 an offensive lineman. I think my question you guys is 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.880 this guy sounds like he's a little bit of a 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.600 developmental guy, right, Like he's gonna start and work his 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.080 way in and work his way out. Was there a 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.559 guy there, Lyndon Baum was there that went right after us, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.240 that could have started center That lets you know what 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.360 they think about be honest, right, like they Yeah, it 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.160 was there a guy there that they could have taken. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.480 That's like, no, this guy's coming in and he's starting. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.160 It sounds like this guy is a potential start, but 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.280 he's gonna have some work to do, Like I think 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.520 that's what the fans are like, Okay, this guy, you 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.400 got to develop him. Couldn't you have gotten a guy 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.800 that comes in and immediately he's but Linda doesn't fix 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.240 their biggest needs. Yes, their biggest need was guarded. They're 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.439 telling you that. I don't know if I had necessarily agree, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.040 but they think that the Honest is further down the 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.720 road than McGovern so they need to fix. They feel 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.640 like the center it can be Okay, you put a 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.280 big guy next to him and Zach Martin that the 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.079 Honest will continue to make this thing go. So they 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.400 I agree with you, Like what what? What else did 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.240 you want Devin Lloyd from? That might be part of 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.160 it that there were some defensive guys who fell that 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.079 people had heard about, Devin Lloyd and Nakobe Dean and 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.720 Jermaine Johnson, top Edge Rusher. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah is on 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.840 NFL never agree. He's spening last night and saying he's 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.840 he's my ninth rated guy, and it's like, you have 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:35.840 a good night, Daryl Jeremiah. I mean like that's and 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.400 nothing again. These guys study, but but I just think 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.600 it's funny when fans are like this this guy's not 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.040 any good. I'm like, says who says says the people 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.319 on the big boards and all that, and and our guys, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.000 our draft show guys. I mean they work hard to 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.520 study these Yes, they still they still look at four 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.920 or five games, you know, like that's all, that's all 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.240 you have time for if you want to study four 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.520 hundred guys, these guys over there, I mean, I'll give you. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.240 Let me give you a stat real quick. This this 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.800 this is a surprise. You said you're not gonna bet 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.839 against Will McClay, Dave Hellman, and I looked at the 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.760 last five years first round picks in the last five 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.280 years in the whole league. It's one hundred and sixty guys. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.679 I think five years, one hundred and sixty guys. How 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.680 many Pro Bowlers you think there are in one hundred 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.120 and sixty first round picks of the last five years, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.480 out of one sixty, out of one sixty this is 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.960 the last five first round picks. How many of them 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.760 make the Pro Bowl have made a Pro Bowl? Twenty percent? Yea, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.720 I was gonna say about thirty thirty. It's twenty twenty 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.440 one guys, which is twelve percent. Wow. So in the 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.360 last twenty years, the Cowboys have nineteen first round picks, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.240 and fourteen of them have made the Pro Bowl. Let's 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.240 seven talking about percent y'all, just wait, Cowboy fans, wait, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.960 give you can throw Taco and Mo Clayborne and Bobby 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.000 Carpenter and Felix and Marcus Spears all day long within 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.880 the rest of them, and well and we'll come back 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.480 all with all these other guys. I mean, so especially 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.240 offensive lineman. Yeah, so, I mean, I just want to 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.760 that's a great that's a great fact of numbers. There. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.800 You gotta process some numbers. But I mean, seventy three 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.480 and I and I can go back to last twenty 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.280 years in the NFL. I don't know what it is. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.360 I mean, it's probably about that. How sick would Cowboys 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.200 fans be had they passed on this and grabbed a defender, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.720 had they passed on this on this pick and grabbed 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.160 a defender and then waited for their next opportunity to 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.160 give Who are you picking up? You think you think 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.040 this guy's raw? Yeah? What are you getting? Yeah, it's 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.280 a position that you have to feel or you're starter. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.840 You'd be walking in and you have a team, you'd 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.280 be walking in tonight with two picks, being like, well, 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.280 we need a guard, we need a slash tackle, we 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.840 need a wide receiver and maybe an edge rusher, and 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.880 no way, we have two picks. You know, that's that's 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.880 part of the deal man. But it's not like they 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.040 super reach back to next point. They did not. And 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.520 and this is a fact, Steven said this last night. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.560 There's a team that tried to trade up with them 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:02.000 right before and they said no. And Steven got a 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.200 text right after that said this was that was our guy. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:05.880 A good thing he didn't trade with us. So it's 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.840 not like they're just on this island reaching for a 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.200 guy who would have gone at fifty, have been gone anywhere. Yeah, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.440 we're gonna take some phone calls. Call us eight eight 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.000 eight eight five five two two nine seven. We've got 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.600 someone on hold before we before we get to that, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.480 I just want to throw this out there. Did the 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.920 Eagles just become the favorite in the division? I mean, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.600 if if their quarterback can be average or a little 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:34.400 bit above average, and what they added on defense, like, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.880 are they the Are they hands down the favorite right now? 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.560 I don't know if they're the I don't think they're 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.240 the favorite, but I looked at Jordan Davis was my 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.400 favorite pick and the favorite guy in the whole draft. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.600 We talked about him on Talking Cowboys and when they 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.080 made that pick, I was like, well, I hope the 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.680 Cowboys are getting a guard here at twenty four because 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.240 they've got to block him now bigger than him, and 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.160 they got yeah, maybe, yeah, I mean seriously, I mean 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.200 it'll that'll be a I mean I was gonna discuss. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.040 I was gonna say, they can't. They can't, And they 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.800 have other guys. They have a problem handling Fletcher Coxy 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.119 playing by put this guy in there with him? What 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.640 are you gonna do in sweat? Wasn't around last time? 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.920 All these guys like they hardgro of they have I 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.399 mean nasty. Let's go to the breaking ye, we're not 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:21.679 taking breaks. Just go to the phones, Chris. Who do 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.320 we have on the phone? Thirty second rule? By the way, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.280 I told you, but I forgot who it is. He's 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.440 in San Antonio. Bring him on? Who we got? Hey, 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.360 what's going on? It's to Tony? What's up Tony? Thanks 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.159 for holding man? We got we got long Windy, We 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.680 got lots to say today. No problem here, I'll try 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.960 to make this quick. First of all, the whole point 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.680 about Matt liking the pick is because of our coaches. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.239 I just I don't believe that we could scheme up 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.600 to get good quality blocking out of our whole offensive 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.280 line group and then to put him out there, especially 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.399 when the Eagles are drafting a big boy Jordan Davis, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.320 And you know, I just think that our quality coaches 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.440 is under Dan Quinn, we should have really just build 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.560 our defense. So that's what we should have done, at 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.359 least in my opinions, that should have. Just we gotta 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.280 believe in the coaches and what they're gonna do. If 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.280 we're gonna develop a guy, at least develop them on 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.760 the defense. Where our defense is on the rise and 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.640 our offense is going down, why not wait wait, wait wait, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.840 I hate that was a bad cut offer for him, 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.879 And I get the thirty second rule, but I'm just saying, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.760 all right, keep going no, no, no, no, no no, no no, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.960 And why all I'm saying, wait a minute, we agreed 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.399 before we came on the air. You agreed. No, you 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.959 said you want to do anything other than what the 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.440 other option was, Okay, And this is turning into the 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.200 I said it was a bad It was a bad 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.040 cutoff for him, not for Chris. How about when he's 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.520 got ten seconds left, do the Mario drop? Just give 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.239 him the ten second point, no, as a warning so 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.200 you can wrap it up. It's fine, it's fine, but 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.119 but but it gets to me that's hypocritical. That's a 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:54.480 hypocritical statement to say, to say, we build the defense, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.520 and so the offense is on. Defense is on the rise, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.040 offense is going down. So let's not fix the offense. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.720 You want this thing to be level, right, I mean 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.200 if somethings, Yeah, I Tony, thanks for the call, man, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.679 but I'm a total opposite in the defense on this 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.120 built the defense. Yeah, you got a stud you got 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.840 some good players, so let's fix this offense. I mean, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.600 Tony was talking. I thought I thought Rob varted over 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:25.520 there because you really didn't agree with that, No, Tony, Yeah, yeah, No, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:30.920 we're not on the same page, bro, because your greatest 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.520 investment on this team is at what position? Quarterback? Quarterback? 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.200 All right? Cool, all right, that's that said. Alright, when 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.800 we started looking at some of the other guys, all right, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.760 quarterbacks number one, then you're looking at who who I mean, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.760 I mean name your top five guys. Your top five 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.879 guys are probably on most of them on offense. Okay, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.400 everybody agree on that? Okay, cool, So now that we've 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.560 agreed on that, now let's look at the fact you 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.480 have to be able to move the ball. This offensive 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.360 line did not move the ball the way in which 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.520 they wanted to. They were still effective because of a scheme, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.120 but they did not They were not able to line 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.280 up in bullyball like the Dallas Cowboys. Identity of this 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.359 organization has always been they were not able to do that. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.400 They did not have the personnel to efficiently and effectively 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.560 run the ball last year. Do we agree on that. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.520 Now we have a quarterback that had a couple of issues, 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.359 and camp had a couple of issues during the season. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.239 You might want to kind of keep him upright, right, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.560 He's a guy that you want around here and healthy. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.560 Guess what you need to make sure that he feels 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.359 confident and secure standing up there in the dog on 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.320 pocket to be able to deliver the ball to all 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.640 these receivers. And I'm sure they're gonna grab some more 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.119 that they have in this locker room. So if you 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.120 can't secure the line of scrimmage, and control the line 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.200 of scrimmage, because you're gonna be playing against seven hundred 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.320 pounds of grown men when you play against Fifth Philly. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.360 Just in their two just in their two techniques right there, 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.159 right inside inside the gaps, you're gonna have seven hundred pounds. 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.800 If you can't block that up, what do you think 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:53.720 that you're gonna do? I don't care what your defense 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.760 looks like. Look at look at the certain matchups that 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.960 they played last year where they really struggled with Connor 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.879 Williams and then beyond in there, you know, left guard center, 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.680 Kansas City comes to mind, Tampa comes to mind, San 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.280 Francisco comes to minds are one when person was wrecking everything. Yeah, 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.160 and my last image of this offense was Dak getting 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.360 pressured the most times he's been pressured the whole season 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.680 against San Francisco. And this offense couldn't run the ball. 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.520 But average is like just over one hundred yards the 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.600 last half of the season. Like they have to fix it. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.080 Question now, is Kent Tyler Smith come in and be 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.920 a plug and play left guard? Well, we'll see, we'll see, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.119 but they certainly hope he can be if he's here. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.960 Sixteenth player on your board, and he feels a need, 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.040 he better comes start. He has to s Yeah, he 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.000 has due. He's not just a future left tackle. I 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.600 just don't think you draft the guy at that spot 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.240 if he's If that question hasn't already been answered in 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.400 the war in the war room of does he come 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.679 in and play? No, I asked the question to Stephen 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.760 Jones and he didn't really. He's like, Oh, I don't 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.680 know about you know, come in and start right away. 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.040 And I'm like, oh, but we're talking about guard. We're 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.400 not talking about tackle. And that's not to demean the position, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.320 but the demands of a left guard are extremely less 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.520 than a left tackle. Yeah, so the position that he 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.160 played in college, if he was coming in here, we're 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.879 expected to play left tackle. That's a whole other conversation, right, 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.720 because you're gonna be facing some of the league's best 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.440 at that position. You're not facing Aaron Donald every week. 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.399 You're not facing an Aaron Donald every week, and you're 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.960 not gonna be facing a Philly every week twice a 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:20.720 year now, but they're gonna be You're not gonna be 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.040 facing teams that have multiple dominant guys on the inside. Now, 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.720 you got Washington teams like that. But these guys, you 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.919 still have help on both sides. You're not by yourself. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.040 So the fact that it's a lot easier to grab 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.199 a guard or grab a tackle and convert him over 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:38.600 to a guard temporarily and him still be effective. Yeah, yeah, 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.640 all right, Chris, we got another call, Yes we do. 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.320 We got Eric in North Carolina. Oh no, Eric, what's up? 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:53.320 Oh no? He hung up? What's up? Oh man? Did 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.880 he hang up? Or was that user error back there 0:22:56.160 --> 0:23:00.400 that you hang out? He sounded busy back there, Chris here, okay, 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.960 another one. I can hear the phone. I'm sorry, I've 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.560 got I've got Eli and corpus Christie, Eli. How's it going. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.400 I'm pretty good. Pretty good. Guys. Love you guys, eating everyone. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.280 You'll listen to you all the time. I think, I know, 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.520 I got thirty seconds. I just wanted to say that. 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.480 I think the whole thing that y'all are missing is 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.280 that we've done this with Connor McGrath, gover, We've done 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.040 this with Williams. We've we've done the second round talent 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.080 and a reaching board, and I know you bring up 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.080 our scanner, Frederick and and and other situations. There's gonna 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.480 be good and there's gonna be bad. But I've seen 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.800 too many bad decisions on the guard position lately to 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.320 trust at a first round pig. Who who's a red? 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.280 I mean who? He did not have a good college 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:51.320 career to begin with, that true that, I mean, he's 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.800 a freshman All American. Here's a freshman All American and 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.160 he made and he made All Conference in the American 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.480 Athletic Conference, which you can say what you want. It 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.960 also had team in the in the final four of 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.120 the of the you know, within Cincinnati, which Tulsa almost beat, 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.840 by the way. I mean, that's not just that's not 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:09.720 true that he did not have a good college career. 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.040 He had a really good He's he can't even buy 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.320 a beer and he's over here and you know, I 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.760 mean he's like twenty years old. Like that's that's that narrative. 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.879 I don't know who you're listening to. That's not true. 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.880 He did have a good college career. And you can 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.639 if you want to compare him just to the position 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:32.000 to Connor Williams and Connor McGovern that's good luck because 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.160 because they were both light in the ass, they were 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:39.160 not movers like this guy's a house like this. It's 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.680 it's different. And I'm not saying he's gonna be great. 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.960 I don't know. I'm just saying you can't just go 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.520 around saying, well, this didn't work, this didn't work. I mean, well, 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.360 let's don't pick him because Reggie Robinson didn't work out 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.439 at Tulsa, So let's don't take this guy, you know. 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.359 I mean, it's just you can't. It's not it's unfair 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.520 to everybody to just compare that way. Yeah, I mean 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.800 they're still trying. He I mean, Connor Williams is not 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.160 a bad player, but as a second round draft pick, 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.000 you would have hoped you could have he would have 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.119 played well enough to where you're, okay, we want to 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.560 keep him for a second contract. That didn't happen. Connor 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.520 McGovern has had some good and some bad. Obviously they're 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.480 looking to upgrade that position, so I see his point. Overall, 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.680 they've had more hits than missus on the offensive line. 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.720 I will just say that, you know, and hey, every 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.640 five years or so, they haven't had a good first 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.880 round pick. Five years ago, Taco, five years before that, 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.359 mow Clayborn. I don't know, if that's going to repeat itself. 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.399 When you're drafting at the back of the first round, 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.760 there's less margin for error. There just is. But and 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.160 in this draft, this draft was bananas, like the way 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.199 it unfolded and the trading, and like the run on 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:48.479 players and that the defensive Oh yeah, it was crazy. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.440 So like Isaiah's point earlier, like what were you supposed 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.640 to don't know what? People like? What did you want 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.680 to take a receiver? That was the people like this? 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.960 They like the shiny stuff. Well for sure, and fans 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.280 might say, well, how about spend some money in free 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.800 agencies so where you're not potentially reaching, But they don't 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.320 view it like they're reaching in this And Nick's right, like, 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.800 we'll see how it turns out. I'm not bad against 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.719 Will in the first round. I'm not. I'm not doing it. 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.600 Just let me let me see, let's get into the sea. 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.560 I don't I don't think this was I don't think 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.560 this was a reach. No, No, everybody wants Zeke to 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.920 get back to being Zeke. Yes, that's what everybody's crying 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.439 about last year. Zeke doesn't look like Zeke. But as 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.520 soon as you draft somebody that's gonna help him look 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.480 more like Zeke. People are like, oh, we should have 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.760 went the other direction. You know this this guy. You 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:34.399 just look at the stats here. I mean, I mean 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:35.880 not stats, I mean you to look at this video. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.119 He doesn't really look like a tackle to me. He 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.600 looks like a guard. And I was surprised, rob Ian, 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.200 you can kind of you remember most of these guys. 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.639 I was surprised how many tackles played played college football 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.919 tackle that they Cowboys have moved to guard Collins. I 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.080 counted like seven guys you know since I've been here. 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.280 I mean, I flows out Adams was way back, but 0:26:58.359 --> 0:26:59.720 he did it for a couple of years and then 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:05.600 actually moved Connor Williams, Lyell, Zach Martin, Ron Leary. Um, 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.119 I think I'm missing at least one more. But I 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.040 mean the guys that play tackle that just instantly come 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.000 in and play guard. And here's another one. Chris got 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.359 another phone call due. And if this guy hangs up 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.000 on me again, I'm gonna be so mad. Who is 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.439 we got? Eric? North Carolina? What's for lunch man? What's up? 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.199 Raising Kane? Joe Kane? Here we go to the sandwich? Alright, alright, alright, 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:34.680 I was writing some sauce off my own phone. What oh, 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.600 I thought you said something else. I was like, that's 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.280 not where the sauce goes, Eric, he goes on the tenders, 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:46.320 not on that part of that. I would be real quick, y'all. 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.639 You know, I've learned over the last few years to 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.840 trust this team, to trust the decisions that they make 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.639 to a certain extent. I really liked this pick. I 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.240 think you couldn't really go any other way. And if 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.840 anybody can coach him up, and seems he's open to 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.399 the coaching, and then if that's anybody could coach him 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.399 up is Joe Fielden. So I'm very thrilled with this coaching. 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.919 I mean, with this decision. It reminds me of Travis 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.600 Feder twenty thirteen. It's a lot of knocks on his game, 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.280 but look look like when you turned out to be. 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.880 And I feel confident about this kid. I feel I'll 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.320 be going to build a team up in other areas 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.800 throughout these next few rounds. A lot of talent left, 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.480 so go Cowboys, and I can't wait to see what 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.720 we do with next with with the rest of the draft, 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.040 So you guys, enjoy the rest of you thank y'all 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.080 and talk to y'all ever. Thank you, Eric, Jerry Jones, 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.520 Stephen Jones. They wish they were that all the fans 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.600 were like you, I'll tell you what they really do. 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.640 I mean, that's positive. Eric is a is a regular 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.520 on Hanging with the boys. That's fine. We always ask 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.520 him what's for lunch because he calls in on Friday, 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.080 and I will tell you what you heard, how how 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.720 educated he was, how enthusiastic he was. That's the kind 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.120 of listeners that that we we at Hanging with the boys. 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:56.520 The people show God, we educate. We educate our fans, 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.760 and that's what you get art educated. Showing just comes 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.680 on later so that people have time to actually google's 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.320 now that we missed you. We hadn't taken calls a while. 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.560 I was good to hear from Eric, But I mean, 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.640 does he ever go non sponsor? Uh? You he'd ever 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.360 tell you what the lunch that's that's yeah, you gotta 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.640 dump it. He he usually cooks his own stuff, like 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.080 he that's how that got started. Like he's always he's 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.120 he's a he cooks. He's a cook. Let me guess 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.600 the thirty second rule is a Nate Newton rule Hu 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.560 because Nate was like, listen, bro Man, we gotta get 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.840 rid of this guy thirty seconds. What happened is we 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.959 had we had callers that would call in and they 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.680 would literally talk for like three minutes, and we were like, okay, 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.720 we we got made about laugh We got an hour 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.640 long show like we can't and Nate. Once you lose Nate, 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.560 he's gone. Once he does this, like he's out the 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:48.920 rest of the show. So we were like, all right, 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.560 we gotta keep Nati Gays. So thirty seconds. But no, 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.040 that was that was a good call. Yeah. By the way, 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.280 nick I looked up his snaps nine hundred nine last year. 0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.880 That's a lot of nine hundred nine last year. No 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:05.200 wonder he's holding. He's exhausted in comparison Zion Johnson, who 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.600 everybody wanted seven hundred seventy seven. Okay, so you look 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:13.760 up Kenyan Green. I will second, well, Kenyan Green, that 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.720 I think was one of the not the biggest curveball, 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.600 but earlier when that when he went off the board, 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.880 I think that fifteen was like all right, now, this 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:27.240 is gonna change things. Yeah, and Jerry said they had 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.880 Tyler Smith ahead of both guys. I wonder with Kenyan 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.760 Green if the whispers is about his knee leading up 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.840 might have dropped him down um after the combine, But 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.720 either way, that was kind of the group of guys 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.600 they were looking at and and Linderbaum again center. He's 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.320 gonna be a plug and play guy where he plays 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.000 but doesn't fill a need for them Right now, what 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.480 do you think they're gonna do today? Where do you 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.880 think they go? Do? I wait, I think they'll get 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:01.120 um uh, tight end and over. Those are the two 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.160 that I'm gonna go in that order. No receiver tied end. 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.080 But but if if it not necessarily, I mean, I 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:11.840 think those are the two positions you would prefer. But um, 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:16.479 but you know, for some reason that safety keeps popping up, 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.800 and I don't know why. I just think that if 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.840 there's one that they like, I mean, which is unlike them, 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.720 very unlike them. So is j Ron Kurse gonna have 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.120 LB next to his name next year? Is that basically 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.520 why he's in the box and he's a linebacker. I 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:36.800 don't know. Okay, yeah, thanks. They need linebackers, They really 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.280 need linebackers, I think too. They just can't get around that. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.440 I don't care if it's if it's a traditional linebacker. 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.760 I don't care if it's a linebacker, uh that likes 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.160 to run around. But first guy on the book here 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.600 on our Star magazine. Still they're still there in Nakobe Dean. Yeah, 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.360 I don't understand that they maybe they try to. I 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.400 think it was because he didn't play at the defense 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.320 that was very good. I don't think that Georgia defense 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:07.480 was good last year. And knowing I'm kidding, like, yeah, guys, 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.160 the explanation. Don't they give up like six points a game? 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.880 What does he feel? How does he feel like? Okay, 0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.480 he won't be there long? No, this is one of 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.120 those thirty thirty four thirty five overall, Like you know 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.920 you're sitting right at the top. Yeah, you mentioned earlier 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.520 wide receiver. How many do you think they're gonna try 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:30.280 to go after hopefully on your one? Hopefully on your one. Yeah. 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.800 I mean we heard so much this past year a 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.640 year and a half about killing Moore in his system. Uh, 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.040 they feel as if, I through their action as they 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.920 feel as if they don't need a traditional number one receiver, 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.040 even though you know they let Coop go and now 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.280 everybody's like, oh, we're gonna make CD's gonna step up 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.480 and be a number one. The reality is killing Moore 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.800 is super duper confident in his system, and you don't. 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.239 He doesn't feel the need for a number one. So 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.680 now it's just a matter of Okay, let's start plugging 0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.320 and playing different attributes and different characteristics of receivers. Right, 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.160 you have a CD who can kind of go inside 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.600 and outside, who can be considered to be dominant. You 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.520 got Gallop. Gallops are our go guy, and he's coming 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.720 off injury, so as we still need to have some stuff. 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.600 We got Simmy. We really don't know what Simmy can do, right, 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.920 he didn't really touch the field much last year. You 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.600 pick up James Washington. Okay, James Washingtons, you're more all 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.840 right inside this kind of slot slot kind of guy 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.520 that can get in and out. I think you need 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:29.800 another James Washington ish guy, another Wes Welker Ish Beasley is, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.560 you know, one of those type of guys to be 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.560 able to get you those easy five six yard you know, conversions, 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.880 because that ultimately is all this team needs to just 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.920 be able to move the ball down the field. I 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.280 don't think that Dak's velocity of his arm is set 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.920 up to be throwing the ball down the field. I 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.640 just don't and I'll get cursed out for that all 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.040 day long. I don't care. I don't believe, and I 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.680 said it all year long, and know I have a 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.440 lot of feeling to back it up. He doesn't have 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.320 the velocity to push the ball down the field in 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.680 which people the way people think that he does. So 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.520 with that being the case, he is going to need 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.840 other options underneath that can free themselves up, to free 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.000 themselves up in coverage. And there's not a lot of 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.120 man coverage nowadays, so you gotta have some smart guys. 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.600 I know how to find them. They're wayh in his 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.799 own which is why you're enfranchising you your tag in 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.040 who nobody else really wouldn't franchised. Yeah, to your point, 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.680 like Chris o'lavia was a guy a lot of fans 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.640 wanted Saints trade up to I think to eleven to 0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.640 get him, and he had a couple of different skills 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.239 that stood out. You know, he's a four three guy 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.320 and that's Speed's great. To Isaiah's point, to me, maybe 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.320 the best part about his game is his route running 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.040 and he can step right in and be a dependable 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.520 guy where the quarterback knows exactly where he's gonna be. 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.200 And that's what Amari brought more than anything here. I 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:42.759 think they got to find a guy who can do that, 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.839 just come in as a rookie and be very, very 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.799 dependable for Dak Press guy Cedric Wilson did that too. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.200 By the way, Cedric Wilson was as friendly quarterback, friendly 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.040 or receiver, especially a guy you pick in the sixth 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.239 round as anybody they've had in a long time. Would 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:01.640 you take ad that hurts me? That hurt me, hurt me. 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.720 I was so angry. That was my pet cat, dude. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.560 I was angry. I didn't want to see him go. 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.319 I said when he got on the roster, Ross said 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.640 he's gonna be He's gonna be a key contributor, special team, 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.000 special teams, and a dependable receiver. He just didn't get 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:14.560 to get the you know, the pub and then they 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.560 freaking let him walk. I was not a house. Was 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.479 like when Cedric was gone, I was like, this is time, 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.000 this is gonna be my guy. Come on, we got 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:24.640 another one and bye, go ahead. Would you take would 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:29.799 you take John Metchi from Alabama knowing that he's had 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.759 a torn ACL in the SEC Championship game, He's might 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.480 miss some time, and you have Michael Gallup. You wouldn't 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.880 take him. No, we don't. You don't need two acls 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.400 on the team. I'm just no disrespect. I'm a guy 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.080 who's had a ton of injuries. But that's not you 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.520 don't want to roll roll the dice, you know, saying 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.680 with with double snake eyes, would you have done it 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.319 with Jamison Williams. Nope, you wouldn't have done that now here. 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.799 Okay about you, Rob, What do you think they're gonna 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.920 go today today? I would say receiver. You know, it 0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.279 depends on what falls to them or you know, maybe 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.640 they get aggressive. I don't know, but but receiver and 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.080 tight ends a good one. I might say edge rusher too, 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.359 because you can't wait if you want to add there, 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.600 you can't wait too long, you know, to find a 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.520 guy who can come in and make an impact for you. 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.040 So I'd say, you know those two or three spots 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.919 and the Mechi questions is good? Interesting Nick, because I'm 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.000 with Isaiah and that they need a healthy guy to 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.000 come in because you don't know how much time Michael 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.840 gotp's gonna miss right off the bat. But they have 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.280 a history here of second second treat the second round, 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.000 as we can hedge a little bit here and Bruce Carter, 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.120 Jalen Smith Smith. Some of it's injury, some of it 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.359 is you know, Randy Gregory dropped out of the first 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.239 round because of off the field stuff and they gambled there, 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.720 and you know so that they that's how they'll treat 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.839 the second round at times, you know, Kelvin Joseph last year, Yeah, 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.000 I think I think you made a great point the 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.360 other day that that of why you know, it's also 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.080 dangerous too. You do that when you're when you're covering 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.919 your basis in freecy. But they don't do that. They're 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.000 putting a lot of their eggs in the basket of 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.760 this draft able through the draft. That that being said, 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:08.960 I don't know if you can be risky here in 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.279 the second round. You were risky last year in the 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.440 second round. And I don't know if that that player 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.520 is going to play for you anymore. No one knows 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.319 that right now. So I'm just saying this. I think 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.160 if there is such a thing as a safe second 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.120 round pick, I would do it and usually it's the 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:32.720 offensive line. Usually in second round. Yeah, yeah, take another guard. No, well, honestly, 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.959 they do have to take another guard at some point 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.480 because if this is the left tackle the future, Tyler Smith, well, 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.879 then who's gonna play left guard? So I'm not saying 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.439 to get him in the second round, but if there's 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.279 one in the fourth, I wouldn't be surprised. Do you 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.880 think there's a scenario where they trade up today, if 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.680 to get a guy since they have so many Day 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.080 three picks, packaging something up and going up and getting 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.479 somebody that's a Nakobe Dean or somebody, it doesn't wipe 0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.520 you out for the third round. I'd consider it. They've 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.640 done it before. Four they traded last time. Maybe they 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.879 did it was Tank you know in twenty fourteen. Would 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.680 you go four and of five with the two that 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.520 you have four and to five to go up? Would 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.120 that even get you up? No? I don't know. If 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.359 it's not getting your not to get into Kobe Dean, Well, 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:20.440 I don't. I mean, but hope back you still you 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.960 still have three fifth rounders left, which typically fifth round 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.000 you know, it's throwing darts and they haven't had a 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.040 good I've mentioned our show, since Orlando was Secandrick was 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.279 the last guy that really became a starter there. But 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.640 they feel like the real depth of the draft is 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.640 three through five because of the super seniors, because they 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.960 probably have guys that would have been graded much higher 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.640 in a previous year that are maybe pushed down a 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.879 little bit. But yeah, I wouldn't discount dipping in there 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.759 and trying to you have draft capital move around if 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.000 you want to. Yeah, yeah, alright, looks like one more 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.279 at least one more call before we get out of here. Chris, 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:58.719 who we got? We got Jim in Pasadena? Jim, How 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:03.480 are you fine? Guys? How are you good? Good? Good? 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:08.239 So I looked at tape Tyler Smith. I think he's good. 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.040 I think he's a maaller and dominant guy. I actually 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.800 think he's better than Linderbaum. I looked at him against Michigan, 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.560 and I think Tyler is a great draft. Obviously, he's 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.640 got to be coached up. But my question to you 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.560 is is there a tight end in the draft that 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.640 can give us a huddle like New England's Hernandez Grunk. 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.279 So that's my question. And if there is a tight 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.920 end that can give us that do you trade up 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.440 for it? Good question? Are you looking at some guys? 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.400 I think page fifty one of our draft magazine is 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.640 going to have some interesting names today. I think four 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.120 guys that they like M K Trey McBride, which might 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.600 be a second rounder, dull Rich from UCLA which is 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:55.000 also I think a second rounder, and then maybe Ruckert 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.319 and Otton in the third. Any of those guys come 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:02.360 in for thirty visits, I'm not which apparently that apparently 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.680 that doesn't What does that mean? It doesn't really matter 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.560 this year, because neither did uh Tyler Smith did he know? 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.120 But I well, what I like about all three four 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.759 of these guys that I'm looking at, they're almost identical 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:18.520 in their in Their size is six four, six to five, 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.800 all around two forty five. And I would think those 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:27.080 guys can can be capable blockers. That's the big one 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.800 right there. Can they help there? Because you know Dalton's 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.759 gonna help is He's gonna be a top option in 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.120 the passing game. Yeah, So I think I think tight 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.879 end's gonna happen here, maybe not in the second round, 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.360 but but maybe in the third. I think that happens today, 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.000 and I think they want to get a receiver, So 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.759 stay offense and go tackle. I mean, go receiver and 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.120 tight end. That's my prediction for today, all right, anything, 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.919 I don't mean to answer his question. I don't see 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.160 anybody in this draft being able to grab somebody that's 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.000 gonna pair up with what you already have at the 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.719 tight end position that's gonna make a combination like Hernandez 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.719 and in Grunk. So let's go ahead and put that 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:05.319 to rest. But in terms of being able to go 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.799 grab somebody that can help block, you know, I've had 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.839 some conversations with Linda Welles, and I think that he's 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.600 pretty confident with who he has in the room in 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.600 terms of their ability to block um. But you know, 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.600 to that point, they still might add somebody. You know, 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.560 obviously I'm always gonna go through you dub people, so 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.319 odd somebody I wouldn't be mad about. But it's like, 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.239 what do you what do you need? You know, like 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.520 I'm always looking at like necessities, whether it's sexy or not. 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.520 What are the absolute necessities for this offense or for 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.279 this and for this team. And I think that you 0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.320 still need a big man upfront because we haven't resigned 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.839 any we didn't we didn't sign a big man. What's 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.759 up urban Urban? You didn't sign an urban. So you 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.879 still need a big you know, a big nasty say, 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.359 you still need him. I don't know if they's if there, 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.920 if there's in this draft, right, but you still need 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.279 somebody to have that type of presence. Um. And I 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.400 still think that you need you do need a receiver. Um. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.680 And then I think you still need DBS. Man. I 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.560 still think that you need DBS. You're in a league 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.480 that is lining up. There's teams that are lining up 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.919 with four one or number two receivers, and you got 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.840 to find a way to stop him. And yeah, I 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.000 don't think that you can have enough you obviously we 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.480 have Digs out there. He's doing his thing, and then 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:14.680 you have a couple whether you know, a Brown and 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.400 couple other guys. But you don't to your point, you 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.279 don't know if Joe still is going to be out there. 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.239 There's a high probability he probably won't you know, um 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.200 some time. Yeah, so you need to find somebody else 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.160 that can step in and contribute at that position as well. 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.439 Any party word rob before we get out of here. No, 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.720 that's corner, right, that's that's another one like and Jerry 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.880 was asked, yeah, tuesday, you know, would that affect your 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.160 draft preparation? He said no, No, they don't tip their 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.320 hand on much of anything at the pre draft press conference. 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.600 But that'd be interesting to see if. I mean, you 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.120 could say they don't have must but there's a lot 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.839 of positions that you could look at and if they 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.439 could go with their this route on second, third round 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.600 and say oh yeah, yeah that could work. That could work. 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.600 I would say receiver stands out still to me though, 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.120 the most because because it gallops status. Even if he's 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.560 back early September or training camp, how much you know 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.880 he's gonna be probably limited. So they need to address 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:06.920 more of that position. Depth two is there, I tell 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.920 you what. Let's go around the horn before we get 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.520 out of here. Last question for everybody. Start with you, Rob. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.120 Is there a position today that they would they could 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.480 draft that you would be like, upset? Is there a 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.440 position they do not need to address today? Quarterback and 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:28.520 kicker and uh? Running back? Yeah? Running back? You know 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:32.680 some of the what would be upset? Huh? Not upset 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.000 would be I would be puzzled. I would you know 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.120 they got the A and M running back. Well, you know, 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.560 I wouldn't be mad about it. I would be fine 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.840 with with mister Spiller. I love that. But but I 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.880 mean they're not those are not muss those are not 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.439 It's an obviously quarterback, come on, you know, but that's 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.560 not gonna happen. But everything else is in play, right, 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.000 I mean, like as asked said, a d line, whether 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:57.520 it's a guy in the middle or a pass rusher 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.520 on the edge. Linebacker, you could tell walk me into 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.640 safety corner. I mean really, they could go in a 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.880 lot of directions to help out dan Quinn, no doubt. 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:09.480 Yeah about you, Gaiah, anything anything you would not be 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:14.640 on board with position wise today, tight end, tight end, 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.879 I'd be I'd be kind of angry about that. Running back, 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.400 I think that would be It's not a necessity. I 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.480 think those are two positions that don't need to be 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.840 tended to right now based upon some of the decisions 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:27.399 and people that you have in place. Um quarterback. Yeah, 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.680 I mean that's not it's not happening alas not even 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.120 in play. Yeah about you, nick Na, I mean the 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.080 same with what they're saying. I mean, this team needs 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.680 some help in a lot of areas. I mean and 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.840 so and then that's what that's what's going on with 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.120 the league now. I mean, like second contracts are I mean, 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.200 there's so much turnover now, so it is, it is 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.200 a lot of I mean even though you think, well 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.160 we're set now, I mean look at like running back, 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.879 like we're set now. Well next year, I mean much 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:56.600 none of these running backs could be on the roster 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.239 next year. Same tight end, Same with tight end. I mean, 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.160 see what happens with Schultz's deal if he gets a 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:04.320 deal corner. I mean, you know, Brown and Jordan Lewis 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.480 may not be here, Joseph may not. I mean so 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.120 like so a position you think look solid may not. Yeah, 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.600 and that and that's something that they are thinking of. 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.480 You know, like a lot of fans, and there's some 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.120 educated fans out there for sure, but sometimes they do 0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.800 get in Madden mode where they think that's all about 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.160 this year and this year only, and they don't draft 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.480 that way. They don't they don't make decisions that way. Yeah, well, fellas, 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.080 this was fun, fun. Thanks for having me, Nick Eatman, 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.480 Isaiah stand bad Us, Rob Phillips, I'm Shannon Gross, Chris Beam, 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:38.040 thanks for pulling all the buttons and hanging up on folks, 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.120 but making it sound good anyway. William, thanks for having 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.200 the live streams up so early in the morning after 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.279 you were up here all night. We appreciate that. Day 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.120 two of the draft and just uh a few hour 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.440 else what six hours from now, so we'll see what happens, 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.200 and I'm sure we'll have another one of these tomorrow. 0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.960 You do another one of these tomorrow, Dick, No, probably 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:01.719 not no, because we started early day. So yeah, this 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.120 tomorrow will be the draft. Okay, Well, we hope you 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.200 enjoyed this because this this lineup will probably never happen again. 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.799 It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed it, 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.880 so cherish it. See yea, We will see you next time. 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.440 Never by. You know. 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