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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Jetty.

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Speaker 1: I'm strong and Jetty and he armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried that this strike is going to hurt

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Speaker 3: the everyday American? The farmers that need to read. They

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Speaker 3: reached the export market. They're telling me that they're gonna

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Speaker 3: hurt them.

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Speaker 4: You start to realize who the long Shormen are, right.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can.

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Speaker 4: People never gave a shout us until now when they

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Speaker 4: finally realize that the chain is being broke. Now, cars

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Speaker 4: won't come in, food won't come in, clothing won't come in.

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Speaker 4: You know how many people depend on odd jobs half

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Speaker 4: the world, and it's time for them and time for

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Speaker 4: Washington to put so much fresh on them to take

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Speaker 4: care of us, because we took care of them and

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Speaker 4: we're here at in thirty five years. It brought tom

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Speaker 4: where they are today, and they don't want to share.

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't sound at all like a guy who'd

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Speaker 5: crack your head open. That's the leader of the Long Showman.

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Speaker 5: That's Harold Jay Daggett, the leader of the union.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but that's the leader of the union.

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Speaker 6: That's not just some rank and file guys don't give

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Speaker 6: a us about us.

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Speaker 1: That's the guy in charge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not just a guy who will break open

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Speaker 5: the head of a scab.

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Speaker 1: He ses the head of the union.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I realize I risk getting my teeth kicked in by

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Speaker 6: saying this, But so often when I hear from the

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Speaker 6: big unions, I think you sound like thugs. You sound

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Speaker 6: like people that have gotten your way for so long,

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Speaker 6: and you're so entitled, you feel like you deserve a

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Speaker 6: way better deal than anybody else in America gets for

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Speaker 6: their jobs.

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Speaker 1: And you're willing to have leverage and you're willing to

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Speaker 1: be violent for it.

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Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, regularly these big unions, it

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Speaker 6: turns out the people at the top are crooks.

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Speaker 1: Happens all the time.

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Speaker 6: Not saying that this guy is, but it happens all

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Speaker 6: the time with the United Auto Workers, for instance.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's say headline from Yahu News, no notable conservative

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Speaker 5: outlet Harold Daggett, how union leader who fought mob tie

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Speaker 5: allegations is holding the US economy for ransom.

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Speaker 1: Shocking. I think we would be buried the leading case.

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Speaker 6: You're not paying attention and Only Fox is really covering

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Speaker 6: this story. The longshoreman went on strike last night, forty

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Speaker 6: five thousand members of this and it's going to cost

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Speaker 6: the economy about five billion dollars a day, which is

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Speaker 6: not a ton in our economy. But the whole supply

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Speaker 6: chain thing could get out of whack really really fast,

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Speaker 6: and then it would be a full on political issue.

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Speaker 5: Port employers, pressed by Biden administration officials to resolve the impass,

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Speaker 5: raised their offer on wages to a fifty percent increase

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Speaker 5: over six years from an earlier forty percent increase, along

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Speaker 5: with other improvements and benefits, in the twenty four hours

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Speaker 5: before the strike deadline that was rejected. The International long

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Speaker 5: Shorman's Association is seeking a seventy seven percent wage increase

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Speaker 5: over six years as a condition to sit down to talks.

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Speaker 5: You come up with seventy seven percent or we're not

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Speaker 5: even discussing anything. Well, you think you're gonna get any

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Speaker 5: sympathy from the average person out there who has taken

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Speaker 5: a fifteen to thirty percent cut depending on your lifestyle

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Speaker 5: because of inflation, and they're wanting They're not even gonna

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Speaker 5: sit down unless they get a seventy someeven percent increase.

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Speaker 5: The main sticking issue is they're saying, no automation. You

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Speaker 5: get to rule out the idea of any automation. I

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Speaker 5: don't care about AI or robots or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: That's insane, that's absolutely insane. That's just that's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: You can't compete as a country against the rest of

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Speaker 6: the world if you're gonna still unload trucks by hand

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Speaker 6: when everybody else is doing it automatically, much faster, much cheaper.

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Speaker 6: So yesterday Joe Biden was asked, mister President, will you

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Speaker 6: intervene in the dock workers strike if they go on

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Speaker 6: strike on Tuesday, which they did at midnight last night.

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Speaker 1: No, said the ancient president.

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Speaker 6: Why not because there's no because there's collective bargaining and

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Speaker 6: I don't believe in taft Hartly. The response to that,

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Speaker 6: by one of my favorite journalists was the irony here

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Speaker 6: is at nuclear levels. Biden, who has tried in a

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Speaker 6: multitude of ways to illegally use executive power to get

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Speaker 6: what he wants, refuses to invoke executive authority where he

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Speaker 6: has the statutory right to do so. Taft hardly gives

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Speaker 6: the President of the United States in a situation where

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Speaker 6: it's going to harm the economy in a general way

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Speaker 6: or national security. He can jump in, jump into these

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Speaker 6: big strikes and say you got to stay at work

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Speaker 6: while we're working out the deal. He has the right

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Speaker 6: to do that. But in this case, unlike some stuff

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Speaker 6: around the immigration or canceling student loans or a number

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Speaker 6: of other things he's been willing to do illegally, he

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Speaker 6: has the legal right and is saying no.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Oh yeah, I can't wait for him to be gone.

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Speaker 5: Coming up later, what do immigrants do for government budgets?

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Speaker 5: New research has answers. We promised, Yes, we promised that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get to it. I apologized. We'll squeeze it

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Speaker 1: in this hour.

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Speaker 5: This is interesting and not terribly shocking. Well, I guess

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Speaker 5: when you get down to the granular details, it is

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Speaker 5: fairly shocking. But Americans are more reliant than ever on

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Speaker 5: government aid. An aging population, economic distress, raised dependence on

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Speaker 5: federal and state support, and it matters a hell of

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Speaker 5: a lot for our elections. As you might guess. Wall

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Speaker 5: Street Journal looking into a major study. This is a

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Speaker 5: little graphics heavy, but I can interpret it for you.

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Speaker 5: They're talking about the share of personal income from government assistance.

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Speaker 5: How in how many counties is it twenty five percent

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Speaker 5: or more? In nineteen seventy, government safety net money accounted

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Speaker 5: for significant income.

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Speaker 1: That's more than twenty five percent.

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Speaker 5: Twenty five percent or more in fewer the one percent

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Speaker 5: of America's counties. So say that again, in what year

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Speaker 5: In nineteen seventy it was less than one percent? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: In two thousand it went from less than one percent

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Speaker 5: to roughly ten percent.

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Speaker 1: That's the year two than ten percent, which a tenfold

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Speaker 1: increase is not minor.

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Speaker 5: In the year twenty twenty two, fifty three percent, more

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Speaker 5: than half of US counties drew at least a quarter

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Speaker 5: of their income from government eight.

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Speaker 6: So this is we were talking about this last week,

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Speaker 6: and now that it's the average person in the bottom quintile.

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Speaker 6: I know this is a lot of complicated talking, but

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Speaker 6: the bottom twenty percent of income earners in America get

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Speaker 6: on average sixty eight thousand dollars per household of transfer payments.

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Speaker 6: And that's left out of every argument about we have

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Speaker 6: the highest inequality of any nation in the world. They

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Speaker 6: never include this stuff. And what you just talked about there,

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Speaker 6: that's never included in these conversations from Bernie Sanders or

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Speaker 6: probably Tim Walls tonight in the debate. People live in

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Speaker 6: paycheck to paycheck. Well, more people are getting the handouts

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Speaker 6: from the government than ever before by a lot.

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Speaker 5: And as we've discussed with Craig the healthcare Guru, socialism

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Speaker 5: is not a light switch. It's a a fungus oh

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Speaker 5: that spreads across a country and it's programmed, crafts benefits

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Speaker 5: and yeah, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: It starts getting across. There's just no stopping it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the big reasons for this dramatic growth are interesting.

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Speaker 5: Some of them I think most conservatives would reject out

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Speaker 5: of hand. But it gets a little complicated when you

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Speaker 5: dig into it. There are much larger share of Americans

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Speaker 5: who are seniors. Period, We're living longer, and we've aged

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Speaker 5: as a population, We're not having kids anymore. And healthcare

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Speaker 5: raw sorry, healthcare costs have risen fairly dramatically.

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Speaker 1: As they've gotten or fantastic.

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Speaker 5: The technology we have at our disposal to keep ourselves

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Speaker 5: healthy and alive is truly awe inspiring, but it costs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And as my doctor said last week, what exactly

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Speaker 6: is the point?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he wonders.

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Speaker 6: Well as we just get you know, our brains don't work,

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Speaker 6: our bodies don't work, but we hang around longer at

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Speaker 6: a great expense.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, it could be the money is the point

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Speaker 5: in at least some situations, although it's I understand it's

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Speaker 5: an odd conundrum that a person could sit around rubbing

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Speaker 5: their chin thinking about for a long time. You're not

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Speaker 5: going to turn down medical advances, Nope, because it's every

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Speaker 5: advance is an incremental step. It can lead toward other

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Speaker 5: advances or cures or what have you. But at the

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Speaker 5: same time you and your doctor are quite right, Hey,

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Speaker 5: good news. We can keep alzheimer suffering Granny alive for

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Speaker 5: one more year. We can stave off or cancer with

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Speaker 5: this new gene therapy. Blah blah blah. What are we

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Speaker 5: doing here anyway? To get back to the major threat

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Speaker 5: of the thing rouni here. At the same time, many communities,

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Speaker 5: so it's the aging and the development of medical technology

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Speaker 5: number one. At the same time, many communities have suffered

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Speaker 5: from economic declient because of the challenges, including the loss

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Speaker 5: of manufacturing, leaving government money. Is the larger share of

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Speaker 5: people's income in such places. I you know, I could

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Speaker 5: bore you to death. I won't because I do this

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Speaker 5: for a living and kind of enjoy getting the paycheck.

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Speaker 5: But one of the big debates in conservative circles these

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Speaker 5: days is the question of the reagan esque free trade

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Speaker 5: global economy conservatives versus what's being called the new conservatism

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Speaker 5: or whatever you want to call it. And everybody's always

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Speaker 5: government conservatism. People call it, yeah, industrial planning, you know.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes people even call it central planning, what have you,

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Speaker 5: And are bellowing at each other about it as if

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Speaker 5: the solutions and the questions and answers are very simple.

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Speaker 1: They're not at all.

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Speaker 5: They're trillions of dollars at stake. So I understand why

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Speaker 5: the people making lots and lots of money want to

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Speaker 5: keep that money flowing. They don't care how much unemployment

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Speaker 5: there is in rural Pennsylvania, for instance. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: oh oh, and the other point I was going to

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Speaker 5: make the side of the new.

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Speaker 1: Conservatives.

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Speaker 5: Back in Reagan's day, we didn't have the situation where

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Speaker 5: our chief global adversary is our one of our chief

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Speaker 5: trading partners, technology partners, and practically indispensable to the world economy.

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Speaker 5: So if you are pitching free global trade of a

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Speaker 5: reaganesque sort. You are pitching continued interaction slash dependence with China,

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Speaker 5: which is just a idea. Times have changed, the arguments

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Speaker 5: So for its analysis of government spending, EIG, which is

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Speaker 5: The analysis also includes unemployment insurance, food stamps, the Earned

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Speaker 5: roughly seventy seventy percent of the cost, and it doesn't

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Speaker 5: accounts for big and growing share of not only the

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Speaker 6: So we went from one percent nineteen seventy to over

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Not very many people could tell you that, and it

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Speaker 5: He made bull the dugout Davy can supt beyond Pollock,

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Speaker 6: Wait a second, So Pete Rose baseball player, greatest hitter

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Speaker 5: It sounds like he was recorded off of a transistor radio.

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Speaker 6: Things sounded much like they do now in nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 6: He got banned from baseball. If you know this at all,

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Speaker 6: Then he got banned for gambling. When he became a manager,

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Speaker 4: Did you ever believe in my team?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever bet against your No, No, that would

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Speaker 5: He was one of the most driven human beings who's

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Speaker 6: He's just not that kind of person. Yeah, But uh,

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Speaker 5: And yeah, he was trying to meet him halfway, you know,

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Speaker 6: Also interesting that he was a giant star back at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, whereas you know, you're that level of star now

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Speaker 1: That whole world has changed so much. Yeah, yeah, he had.

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Speaker 6: He had an odd haircut throughout most of his career too.

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Speaker 1: Prince Valiant. Yeah, Chris Jenner, right right, Well you get

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Speaker 1: at least Pete's stated, dude. Anyway, Hey, hey, I fight

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Speaker 6: That's your expert support analysis at least, he stated.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 5: Well, you hate it when one of your best dudes

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Speaker 6: So we'll get to a little bit later this hour.

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Speaker 6: There's more info coming out. US officials say they have

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Speaker 5: You need to and I'm anxious to hear what Mike

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Speaker 5: next with Hesbelan how much this means to the region.

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Speaker 1: Quick look back at baseball.

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Speaker 5: Was just made aware of a me that's going around

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Speaker 5: showing Pete Rose and then show Hey Otani the memes

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Speaker 5: saying Pete Rose should have had an interpreter.

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Speaker 6: Ah, you don't think that wasn't me?

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Speaker 1: And that was my interpreter over there.

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Speaker 6: You don't think show Hayes Betten, do you? I don't

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Speaker 6: think he is, probably not. That's pretty funny joke.

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Speaker 1: Though, Armstrong and Geeddy.

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Speaker 6: So if you're into following hotspots around the world and

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Speaker 6: knowing what's going on on a moment by moment basis,

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Speaker 6: one of the best sites out there is osint defender.

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Speaker 6: That's open source intelligence, which is followed by lots of

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Speaker 6: smart people Barrywise, Tim Sandifer and Mike Lyons who were

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Speaker 6: about to talk to and this is.

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Speaker 1: What they say about today's news.

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Speaker 6: US officials have stated that the Iranian attack against Israel

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Speaker 6: will most likely begin in the next twelve to twenty

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Speaker 6: four hours, involving hundreds of long rage ballistic missiles, as

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Speaker 6: and intelligence to targets. Great Scott, sounds like quite an attack.

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Speaker 6: Let's discuss that and other developments in the region. We

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Speaker 6: seeing a military analyst, Mike Lyons who joins US now. Mike,

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Speaker 6: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Monny, guys, great to be back.

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Speaker 1: First of all, what's your reaction to those headlines?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be a little cynical here, and this

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Speaker 2: is sounding like an Israeli id FOP. Why would the

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Speaker 2: White House announce this? Why I'm not following this on

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Speaker 2: some level, Why would the Why would they come out

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Speaker 2: and say the level of attack is going to be that?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. It's almost to the point

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Speaker 2: are they trying to Maybe they're prepping forces there, but

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Speaker 2: Is this a back channel to Iran? We you know,

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Speaker 2: the senior wide of official. I'm looking at the Water

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Speaker 2: Journal article says, a direct military attack from Rand against

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Speaker 2: Israel Carrie severe consequences for a rant. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's what that's that's what this is. It's it's that

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Speaker 2: level of messaging. And now we're now hit deep in it.

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Speaker 2: If we know this is going on, if this is

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Speaker 2: different levels. And I'm just really concerned that the United

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Speaker 2: it might not be true, but why the United States

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Speaker 6: Well, it certainly runs if if what you're saying is correct.

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Speaker 6: It certainly runs counter to the things Joe Biden and

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Speaker 6: the Secretary of State have been saying out loud, which

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Speaker 6: is all about ceasfire, ceasefires, ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: Israel don't go.

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Speaker 2: In, yeah, I mean, they can't get off a plane

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Speaker 2: and we want we want to de escalate situations. This

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Speaker 2: comment is basically now an active war saying if you

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Speaker 2: So again the whift song back and forth that the

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Speaker 2: just goes back to there's not a consistency within this messaging.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, Israel's not a warfitting, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: There's got minor incourasions now into Lebanon. There stated military

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Speaker 2: And the only thing I'm thinking is that Uranians, the

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Speaker 5: It looks like, wow, Well, putting aside the confusing announcement

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Speaker 5: The Wall Street Journal editorial board also calling for the

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Speaker 1: Do anything about.

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Speaker 5: But right, well, why don't we talk about that for

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Yeah, I mean, the Houthi's been firing

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Speaker 2: that Vladimir Putin had about taking Ukraine three days, Well,

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Speaker 2: the Israelis might think it's the same thing. They're going

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Speaker 2: to do here and destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities in

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Speaker 2: three days. And this over confidence, that's the thing I'm

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Speaker 2: concerned about. Given right now that they've taken out the

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Speaker 2: hes blog leadership, they've taken out those second third team levels,

446
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Speaker 2: let that kind of let's take a moment see where

447
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Speaker 2: that actually goes. And then maybe four the United States

448
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Speaker 2: to focus back on who's these focus back on what's

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Speaker 2: happening there as it continues to impeach shipping lanes across

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Speaker 2: the Middle East and within the Red Sea.

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Speaker 6: Well, we won't even get into because who knows who's

452
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Speaker 6: actually making these decisions. I don't know at what moments

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Speaker 6: and during the day Joe Biden's capable of making these decisions.

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Speaker 1: Some days I'm sure he's times some days I think

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Speaker 1: he is. But some days I'm sure he's not. So

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Speaker 1: you got that issue out there.

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Speaker 6: But is there ever going to be a better time

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Speaker 6: for Israel to try to take out the nuclear program

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Speaker 6: in Iran than now?

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Speaker 2: No, And I think that's what their calculation is. I

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Speaker 2: think it's exactly right as they They've done it in

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Speaker 2: the past. They took out you know, OSRIC and eighty one,

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Speaker 2: they took out the capability there than this in Syria.

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Speaker 2: They've taken it out before in Iraq. So I think

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Speaker 2: I don't think that there's a better time for it. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: if I was, if I was the military advisor to

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Speaker 2: the to the Prime Minsiter, I'd say, if we're going

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Speaker 2: to do it now at the time, I mean last

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Speaker 2: time when they fired back, when Iran fired three hundred

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Speaker 2: missiles our way. Uh, they basically put a posted note

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Speaker 2: on where the nuclear facilities was because they attacked the town,

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Speaker 2: but they didn't attack the facility itself. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be a difficult mission though, it's not going to once

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Speaker 2: again get rid of the program, and we'll set it back,

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Speaker 2: which is all all that's really happening is this is

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Speaker 2: these attacks. Set back has bled, they set back well,

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Speaker 2: God's I think is different I think Hamas has been

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Speaker 2: pretty much stripped of all capability there there there, they

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Speaker 2: would have a very difficult time in the army. But

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Speaker 2: Hesbela is still different because of the amount of weapons

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Speaker 2: they have and the amount of support they've gotten from Iran.

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Speaker 2: They've been Iran's proxy jewel for the last twenty years,

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Speaker 2: built specifically to do nothing but antagonized Israel. So this

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Speaker 2: is where Israel said we've had enough and this is

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Speaker 2: why they're going to try to destroy them. So Iran's

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Speaker 2: explosed and now the time to do it well.

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Speaker 5: And from the Israeli point of view, if Harris were

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Speaker 5: winning to win the election, the lack of support would continue,

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Speaker 5: and if Trump were to get elected, they would get

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Speaker 5: a high five for having done what they did. So

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Speaker 5: I don't see any reason to hesitate and wait for

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Speaker 5: the US to come along. Hey, I want to go

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Speaker 5: back to the Hesbela and their impressive arms, which we've

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Speaker 5: talked about through the recent months. We've talked with you

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Speaker 5: in the past about decapitation operations, you know, taking out leadership,

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Speaker 5: but I mean this took out some of the key

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Speaker 5: leadership and two levels below them.

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Speaker 1: Has Bolas got to be an utter disarray right now.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to take out the one guy that's

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Speaker 2: sitting in the answers the phone and whatever and gets

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Speaker 2: blown up. But it's right, they've taken out multiple levels

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Speaker 2: of command and control within within has a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you saw those pictures on CNN of the attack

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Speaker 2: where they were, you know, they just didn't take out

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Speaker 2: the top ten guys there. They took out their staff,

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Speaker 2: They took out all the other people that all the communications,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the entire the casualties from that attack are

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Speaker 2: have to be off the charts. And so yeah, there

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Speaker 2: as they try to scramble, and again let's take a

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Speaker 2: moment here and see what exactly comes of it, which

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Speaker 2: is why Israel wants to take advantage of it right now,

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Speaker 2: given the fact that lines of communications are cut within

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Speaker 2: within Lebanon from there and Iran is very much exposed.

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Speaker 2: So there's maybe small little militia groups that could go

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Speaker 2: after you know, US forces maybe in certain places, but

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Speaker 2: everything right now is very strategic over the horizon because again,

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Speaker 2: if you look at a map, there's no other allies

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Speaker 2: Ron has to go to war against Israel. All these

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Speaker 2: other Arab entries don't have they don't have any military.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to Gypsians aren't going to talk to

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Speaker 2: Jordanians aren't going to There's no If this was forty

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Speaker 2: years ago, yeah, the Syrians had a military and there

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Speaker 2: was that capability, but that doesn't exist anymore. It's just

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Speaker 2: a Ron versus Israel at this point, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to come down to hooplinks first. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be Israel.

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Speaker 6: So if they're going to try to take out the

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Speaker 6: nuclear facilities in Iran, they would use the same method

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Speaker 6: they used to take out the leader Hesblo, wouldn't they

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Speaker 6: Just the succession of those two thousand pounds bombs until

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Speaker 6: you finally get far enough underground.

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Speaker 2: It's likely what they would do. The program is very

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Speaker 2: much spread out, though it's dispersed. They would have eleven

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Speaker 2: or twelve targets there would They would take advantage of

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Speaker 2: a very weak Iranian air defense system that is completely aged,

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Speaker 2: hasn't been upgraded, hasn't hasn't had any kind of advances

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Speaker 2: to it, So they would have that going for them,

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Speaker 2: but eventually they wouldn't get it all. But that's likely

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Speaker 2: what it would be. I think it's about eleven or

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Speaker 2: twelve targets, so to speak. The place where they attacked

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Speaker 2: last time was probably the most important place. That's where

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Speaker 2: uranium is enriched. Right, three levels of creating a nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 2: You know, mine it, enrich it, and then you obviously

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Speaker 2: create the bomb. The enrichment is the key part of it.

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Speaker 2: If they can take out that plan close to fourdoh,

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Speaker 2: I think that's what it's called, that would be very significant,

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Speaker 2: setting their program back.

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Speaker 5: I know this sort of prediction making is silly, but

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Speaker 5: in your mind, is it at one out of ten

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Speaker 5: prospect that the Israelis do it, nine out of ten

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Speaker 5: somewhere in between?

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Speaker 2: I'd say six, six out of ten. I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to depend on the next forty eight hours, what

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Speaker 2: the what the Uranians do. If they don't follow through

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Speaker 2: with this attack that we're saying is going to happen,

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Speaker 2: I think it doesn't give Israel cause to do it.

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Speaker 2: Israel won't necessarily preemptively strike just yet, as they've done

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Speaker 2: in the past. Israel has preemptively struck its enemies in

560
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Speaker 2: the past, but it's going to if they do strike.

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Speaker 2: If the Iranians do strike, well, then that's going to

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Speaker 2: open the door for or Israel to respond back, and

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Speaker 2: it'll be a Tehrana. It'll be at this nuclear capability,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: Quick exit question before we think and.

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Speaker 2: When we're saying in the United States forms is now

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Speaker 2: part of this because they'll will provide air defense systems

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Speaker 2: of anything. That's eventually, once a round figures out it's

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Speaker 2: getting attacked, it's going to start unleashing its missiles. The

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Speaker 2: US will be hip deep in it to trying to

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Speaker 2: defend Israel at that point.

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Speaker 5: All right, quick exit question a different topic before we

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Speaker 5: let you go, Mike. Given the lack of change, certainly

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Speaker 5: for the Ukrainian side on the battlefield of late how

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Speaker 5: soon do you expect to see serious negotiations for a

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Speaker 5: peace deal taking place?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Russia seems to be digging in. Saw a report

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Speaker 2: that said they want to fight this until twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take a negotiator to come in and

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Speaker 2: see what Ukraine is willing to give up. As Russia

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Speaker 2: continues to grind away and get the rest of Europe involved.

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Speaker 2: Ukraine did taking that land in a few months back.

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Speaker 2: Now it's going back in a couple of months. It

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Speaker 2: hasn't really made a difference with regards to Russia's calculation.

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Speaker 2: They still have more capacity, capability, and they can still

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty much do what they want. They could

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Speaker 2: grind Ukraine down. The question is whether Ukraine would be

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Speaker 2: willing to give up those areas in the Dombas and Crimea.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing that Russia wants is Crimea. They

590
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Speaker 2: want complete control over its about to pull. They want

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Speaker 2: complete control over that of the back sea, and that

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Speaker 2: gives them a one more report. They have to have it.

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Speaker 6: We keep asking you more questions when we tell you

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Speaker 6: you're done. So I don't know if you saw this.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see it till yesterday. Apparently Trump told a

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Speaker 6: reporter recently, and he reiterated it yesterday that his deal

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Speaker 6: with Putin is going to be here's the deal, and

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Speaker 6: if you don't take it, I'm going to give Ukraine

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Speaker 6: whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah again that so that means, yeah, that would

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Speaker 2: be pretty amazing. But I'm not sure the deal that

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Speaker 2: would be. Well, So the question is whether the Ukrainians

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Speaker 2: would give would want the deal, because that deal involves

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Speaker 2: giving up land. The question about it, right, so whether

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Speaker 2: Ukraine agrees with it remains to be seen. That might

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Speaker 2: be true, but but Ukraine might not be willing to

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Speaker 2: take their side of the deal. That's the only thing

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Speaker 2: I could think of for that one.

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Speaker 5: CNN military analyst Mike lyons, Mike, thanks so much for

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Speaker 5: the time and and the thoughts, and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 2: Great, I think for me.

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Speaker 1: Yep, of course. Wow, that's something.

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Speaker 6: So in the eighty one, monockem Began was Prime Minister

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Speaker 6: at the time and he bombed the but Jesus out

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Speaker 6: of their nuclear facilities or they would have gotten a

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Speaker 6: bomb way way back then, and we went nuts over

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Speaker 6: it in public. Eventually gave him a medal years later

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Speaker 6: for doing what he did. So what the administration says

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Speaker 6: out loud about Israel going aps is not necessarily what

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Speaker 6: we think, right.

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Speaker 5: And they're terrible at their jobs, so it is difficult

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Speaker 5: to assess what they're doing and what they mean and

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Speaker 5: what they don't need. You mean the White House, yes, boy,

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Speaker 5: this is their their whole foreign policy team. So this

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Speaker 5: is the level of attack that Open Sources reporting on.

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Speaker 5: And then Mike Client says, well, we got to be

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Speaker 5: in it because we're providing the air support to make

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Speaker 5: this whole thing go away, Holy cow.

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Speaker 1: This next twenty four or forty eight hours could be

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting.

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Speaker 5: And not because J. D. Vance is wrestling with the

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Speaker 5: old coach on TV tonight talking about cat ladies and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: Cat eaton the whole debate.

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Speaker 6: If it happens before the debate, the whole debate, half

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Speaker 6: the debate could be about this.

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Speaker 1: It's entirely possible. Yes, heck of a thing.

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Speaker 6: What are your thoughts text line four one five two

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Speaker 6: nine five k FDC.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the polling, you know, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe any of the polls. I don't believe the

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Speaker 1: polls that I like. I don't believe the polls I

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Speaker 1: don't like.

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Speaker 6: That's Charlie Hurt of Washington Examiner. Doesn't believe the poles

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Speaker 6: he likes, doesn't believe the polls you don't like. Who

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Speaker 6: knows how accurate the polls are, But we got a tied.

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Speaker 1: Racing all of them. Okay, okay, okay. We have a

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Speaker 1: debate tonight between the vice presidential candidates, which I don't

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Speaker 1: think in the history of debates has ever moved the

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Speaker 1: needle at all. I keep seeing.

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Speaker 5: Will it entertain me? Is my only question? And I

651
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Speaker 5: think it will on one level or enough for ninety minutes.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, I predict at the very end of

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Speaker 7: the debate, they could all just sit there scrolling through

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Speaker 7: their phones and nobody would notice because there'll be nobody

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Speaker 7: watching the last half hour.

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Speaker 5: Margaret Brennan could just say to JD, Hey, do you

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Speaker 5: see this about Pete Rose.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: In a little two feet chat.

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Speaker 6: An hour in Margaret Brennan could say, Okay, I just

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Speaker 6: got the word from the producers. There's nobody currently watching.

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Speaker 6: We have the datus, so let's just let's just hang

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Speaker 6: out here until the end. You start scrolling through your phone.

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Speaker 5: I guess I can put my legs back behind the

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Speaker 5: desk because there's nobody looking at them.

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Speaker 6: That is something the modern news show where the women

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Speaker 6: wear super short skirts, but they gotta have a glass

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Speaker 6: desk and a high stool so that their legs can show. Yes,

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Speaker 6: he wouldn't have thought we'd have gone that direction in

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Speaker 6: the modern world. I got Harry legs. My point was

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Speaker 6: going to be, if you haven't heard this, CBS announced

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Speaker 6: that Margaret Brennan will not be doing fact checking. They're

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Speaker 6: gonna leave the fact checking up to the candidates, which

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Speaker 6: is what a debate is. So it's interesting that they're

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Speaker 6: having to step out a line to get back in

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Speaker 6: line with what debates are. That's the whole point of

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Speaker 6: a debate is the two candidates argue with each other

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Speaker 6: and present different facts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you hear that, David Muir, hope you choke

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Speaker 5: on your kale shake in.

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Speaker 6: Terms as opposed to the moderators jumping in with their

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Speaker 6: facts randomly, uh uh and not accurately. I had another point.

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Speaker 6: What was the point do oh? It just came across this.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if this will come out in the

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Speaker 6: debate tonight. The Harris price fixing campaign and all that

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Speaker 6: sort of stuff. The economy's got to be part of it.

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Speaker 6: It's the number one issue in America. Gallup poll just

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Speaker 6: out more Americans give a negative view of grocery stores

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Speaker 6: than a positive view for the first time since Gallup

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Speaker 6: started asking about this many many decades ago. How would

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Speaker 6: a majority of Americans have a negative view of grocery stores.

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Speaker 1: Well, they do for the first.

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Speaker 6: Time ever because of Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden coming out

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Speaker 6: and saying it's the grocery stores that are screwing you.

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Speaker 6: That's why the price of price of bacon is so high,

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Speaker 6: That's why eggs are so high. The grocery stores are

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Speaker 6: just greedy bastards stealing from you, and it drove down

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Speaker 6: their positive ratings.

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Speaker 5: There is no limit to the dishonesty in politics. I

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Speaker 5: mean that's stating the obvious, but I mean they will

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Speaker 5: lie about everything.

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Speaker 6: And in this case it worked unbelievable. That sort of

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Speaker 6: stuff polls well. Price fixing, rent control, claiming you're being

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Speaker 6: gouged really polls well.

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Speaker 1: I stand up for the humble grocery store.

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Speaker 5: I don't care who's with me and who's against me.

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Speaker 5: You can get a cucumber over there, yogurt over there,

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Speaker 5: A delicious chunk of meat there in the back. Grocery store.

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Speaker 5: Thumbs up, chunk of meat. Do you know what