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Speaker 2: another edition of night Cap. I am Shannon Sharp, your
Speaker 2: favorite UNC. He's your favorite number eighty five Cincinnati Bengo
Speaker 2: legend Chad o Cho Senko Johnson. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it. The game you just watched
Speaker 2: Chiefs beat the Jets twenty three twenty I'm sure Vegas
Speaker 2: is very very happy that Patrick Mahomes slid down in
Speaker 2: bounds because they were giving nine points and who knows
Speaker 2: what would have happened.
Speaker 3: And Patrick Mahomes says, you know what, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: take a chance.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take a chance that we scored
Speaker 2: touchdown and they run the kickoff back on side and
Speaker 2: then something fluky happens, so you know what, they have
Speaker 2: no more timeouts.
Speaker 3: I almost slide down and bounds.
Speaker 2: He also threw his two hundred touchdown pass in his
Speaker 2: eighty fourth career game, fewest to two hundred TV passes
Speaker 2: in NFL history, surpassing my former colleague and hol class teammate,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Dan Marino, of eighty nine games.
Speaker 3: What were some of your takeaways? Let's start.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Let's start with the Kansas City
Speaker 2: and we'll get to the Jets.
Speaker 3: Let's go with Kansas City. What was your big takeaway
Speaker 3: from the game with the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously with the Chiefs, the Chiefs did what
Speaker 1: they could. I mean, it was very surprising with Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift being in the building that Travis Kelsey hadn't.
Speaker 4: Caught a ball into the third quarter. You would have
Speaker 4: thought they would.
Speaker 1: Have featured him the same way the NFL his feature
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and all of their somewhat mercier's leading up
Speaker 1: to the game. Yet, other than that, they played good football.
Speaker 1: They played good football. They didn't blow the Jets out
Speaker 1: like everybody thought. Everybody thought it was going to be
Speaker 1: a runaway game. Obviously Super Bowl champion to come in
Speaker 1: and just run the Jets out of the stadium, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. H They played good football. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes turned the ball over because of the great
Speaker 1: defense of the Jets, and I mean that. That's pretty much.
Speaker 4: What Listen, what what what creates those? Did he say what.
Speaker 2: Pressure? There was no pressure on him. Go back and
Speaker 2: read his lips. He said throw the effing ball. He
Speaker 2: was trying to guide it. It wasn't no pressure on
Speaker 2: him when he threw the picks. Yeah, did they pressure him, yes,
Speaker 2: but on those on those possessions, those were those were
Speaker 2: self inflicted wounds. Okay, what about the run game. Were
Speaker 2: you impressed with the case He's run game projecto? Yeah,
Speaker 2: most de partecto was the real deal.
Speaker 3: He the real deal.
Speaker 1: And matter of fact, I heard I heard Collinsworth the comparison,
Speaker 1: the comparison between him and Marshaw Lynch. You see the
Speaker 1: similarities and their styles of running. Obviously, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's Marshawn Lynch, and not not by any means, but
Speaker 1: the style he the style, the force of which you
Speaker 1: run with meaning like a Marion Barber Marshawn Lynch. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one more that's on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1: Where they ran with such anger like and there was
Speaker 1: there was intent behind every step they took, especially when
Speaker 1: they when they ran into running to their opponent.
Speaker 4: Other than that, I mean, it was decent. It was
Speaker 4: decent from their side.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is that the Chiefs got to
Speaker 2: do something with that right tackle. He's had ten accepted
Speaker 2: penalties in four games. Let that sink in, ladies. The record,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, is Brandon Browner. I think in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen had twenty three in a sixteen game season.
Speaker 2: He has ten accepted. Not to count how many you
Speaker 2: know they got off the field. It was it was
Speaker 2: third down and he got a penalty, and it was
Speaker 2: the player with incomplete or they got stopped or something.
Speaker 3: He has ten accepted penalties. That's terrible.
Speaker 2: And you know what, and it's gonna bite you when
Speaker 2: you when you least needed to come into play. It's
Speaker 2: gonna because he gave him two points. He got him
Speaker 2: on the board.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is the offense is so efficient.
Speaker 1: The offense is so good they able to do that.
Speaker 1: They're so well balanced offense. I mean, in all three
Speaker 1: phases offen they can run the ball very very well,
Speaker 1: they can pass the ball very very well. They're one
Speaker 1: of the few teams in the NFL that can overcome
Speaker 1: those penalties. But like you said, at some point later
Speaker 1: on in the season and in a game of extreme importance,
Speaker 1: those calls are gonna cost them.
Speaker 2: You can't You're not gonna overcome those against a Buffalo.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna overcome those against the Miami, You're not
Speaker 2: gonna some of the better rights, right, You're not gonna
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to overcome those type of
Speaker 2: mistakes because they put so much pressure on your defense.
Speaker 2: Now your offense is because the Jets is not an
Speaker 2: offense that you know, you're like, oh man, we gotta
Speaker 2: go score thirty the posing team offense, like we gotta
Speaker 2: go skirt score thirty against Jets of Buffalo.
Speaker 3: You know you got to go get thirty.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, you know, you gotta go get thirty or
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 3: And so mistakes like that.
Speaker 2: Turnovers, because turnovers allow bad teams, you bring them up
Speaker 2: to your level. Because you see last tonight, Ojo, it
Speaker 2: wasn't like the Jets were driving the ball until the
Speaker 2: Kansas City created short fields for him turning the ball over,
Speaker 2: and it got them some confidence, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you can see like Zach.
Speaker 3: Wilson started getting a little little bit a little.
Speaker 4: Little no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not
Speaker 4: what we're finna do. We're not finna do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Wilson played good football tonight.
Speaker 4: Wilson played good. What's happened?
Speaker 3: A chance to take the league? What you do?
Speaker 4: What you not?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let's hope. We had a drop touch down.
Speaker 1: We had to drop down, we listened to. We had
Speaker 1: a drop test down. Hold on, we had an interception
Speaker 1: that Mosley could have could have picked off.
Speaker 4: These are game changers. These are there.
Speaker 1: They are about five or six players after to change
Speaker 1: the dynamic of that game.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Sit there and talk about, oh, the offense got confidence,
Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson got confidence because of what the Chiefs did.
Speaker 1: That's what you're not finna do. Hold On, we played
Speaker 1: with goddamn football.
Speaker 3: Hold On, let me ask you a question. Think about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, in the game that they the one game they won,
Speaker 2: they created four turnovers. The game that they got closed,
Speaker 2: the team created two turnovers. So tell me the game
Speaker 2: in which they didn't they didn't win, and with the
Speaker 2: Jets have gone up and down the field.
Speaker 4: But that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, to your point, we loved we lost the game,
Speaker 1: but tonight was a great foundation for us to build
Speaker 1: off offensively, including Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4: He played good goddamn.
Speaker 1: For me and the fact that you're gonna see him
Speaker 1: not get this man any credit.
Speaker 4: With the way he played. I can't believe you. How
Speaker 4: would you sit here.
Speaker 2: And do show when it mattered the most, when he
Speaker 2: had a chance to go down and tag the lead.
Speaker 2: Tell the people that didn't see the game what Zach
Speaker 2: Wilson did.
Speaker 3: Don't get quiet.
Speaker 2: Now hold on for the people at home, Oh Joe
Speaker 2: Sinko is finished, explain to you the last series.
Speaker 3: Hold on just a second.
Speaker 2: I want you to explain to the people at home
Speaker 2: that maybe their cable went out or they don't get
Speaker 2: NBC on the rig. I need you to explain to
Speaker 2: the people what Zach Wilson did on the last series.
Speaker 4: We didn't make it.
Speaker 3: We need to do no, no, no, no, we didn't.
Speaker 4: We didn't. We didn't.
Speaker 5: We didn't do what we needed to do. We didn't
Speaker 5: do we did listening. Hold on, hold on, did the
Speaker 5: offensive line block? Did the receivers go out for a
Speaker 5: pass route? I need you to give them a play
Speaker 5: by play. I need you to be I need you
Speaker 5: to be the black Chris collins Worth and walk them through.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember that play. I can't remember what happened.
Speaker 1: I can't, I promise you I can't because I was
Speaker 1: so focused on all I couldn't even I can't even
Speaker 1: remember the bad. I can't even remember the bad.
Speaker 4: I just I just know.
Speaker 1: I just know based on what I saw tonight, the
Speaker 1: sample size and of playoff saw from Zach Wilson, it
Speaker 1: leaves me with a great taste in my mouth and
Speaker 1: knowing that Jess it gonna be okay, they gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about one you want to talk
Speaker 1: about one series. We know what happened when, when the
Speaker 1: when the game was on the line and.
Speaker 4: We could have the game, we know what happened. I
Speaker 4: don't need to harp on that.
Speaker 3: How many times do a game come down to a play?
Speaker 4: All the time? Session, all the time it happened.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: And I named some other plays. They're they're about five
Speaker 1: and six in the game of of of seventy today,
Speaker 1: seventy five plays to make a difference.
Speaker 4: I told you the tight end. Wait was that was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We had to settle for a field goal. Ball hit
Speaker 1: me right in the hands. Ball stop it? The the
Speaker 1: man slide on. I thought the dude played for the mask.
Speaker 2: The way he was trying to catch the ball, I
Speaker 2: thought he was a basketball player.
Speaker 4: But when he had his hand placement entirely the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Any ball below your waist, your hands shouldn't be like
Speaker 1: this anyway. Your hand's supposed to be like this, ready
Speaker 1: to cut the ball because it's already low.
Speaker 4: But you have been a catch?
Speaker 3: Ojo? What was that?
Speaker 4: That would have also been able to change the game.
Speaker 3: What happened? Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: What do we talk about running one way and the
Speaker 2: ball coming behind you? Yes, that's the way you do it,
Speaker 2: but a normal when you sliding, it's hard to open
Speaker 2: your hips up and turn your hands like this. It's
Speaker 2: a lot easier to be going away and put your
Speaker 2: hands like that. Yes, that makes the catch more difficult
Speaker 2: because it's gonna hit your hands and go down. But
Speaker 2: it's really hard to run one way, open the hips
Speaker 2: and get your hands up under the ball like that.
Speaker 2: Don't do that. O Joe that you caught ball for
Speaker 2: a living.
Speaker 1: Now you see what now see you said, you see him,
Speaker 1: You see him make excuses. You can see it making excuses.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, you know those two plays that
Speaker 1: that dropped touched down and that interception and just but
Speaker 1: the inch, it's a game of inches.
Speaker 4: It's a game of inches.
Speaker 1: Just like al Patino said, the six inches in front
Speaker 1: of your face, that's exactly what we Wilson, Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: missed Garrett Wilson on the d ball.
Speaker 4: It was six inches, yes, six inches, yes, that all.
Speaker 1: These plays, those are the three plays right there that
Speaker 1: would have changed the outcome of this game. And it's
Speaker 1: just unfortunate that it didn't go our way tonight. It
Speaker 1: didn't go our way.
Speaker 4: But I'm happy with the with the play from Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3: Knight.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, even after the game, what did Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Say, Zach play god damn well and had some hell
Speaker 1: of throws out there.
Speaker 4: Well listen, they rolled.
Speaker 1: Him out the pocket, getting them comfortable. You can see
Speaker 1: the confidence in some of the throws.
Speaker 3: He was ran a lot better than tonight. Oh y.
Speaker 2: In order for you to continue this to see this,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, You're defense is going to have to continue
Speaker 2: to create turnovers. Are you comfortable that your defense is
Speaker 2: gonna give me? Because the two games that they one
Speaker 2: game they won, they created four. The other game they
Speaker 2: almost won, they created too. So the games in which
Speaker 2: they didn't create any turnovers, what happened?
Speaker 3: We lost?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's okay because the defense. Remember this is
Speaker 1: this is a great defense. This is just not no
Speaker 1: any ordinary defense. This is a great defense. And they're
Speaker 1: going to continue to cause turnovers. It's going to continue
Speaker 1: to happen. But when of these turnovers, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do offense. And you notice I'm saying we Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm infiltrated because I support Zach Wilson. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you we have to. We have to get points on
Speaker 1: some of these turnovers. If it's not it's not if
Speaker 1: it's not a touchdown, touchdown, we gotta get touched down.
Speaker 1: But if we can't get touchdown because the defense is
Speaker 1: playing so well, we got to get three points every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying every time they say no
Speaker 1: video game, this is real life. But if we can
Speaker 1: get points every time we get the ball, especially on
Speaker 1: turbo turnovers.
Speaker 4: It will make the game that much better for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I'm the Jets, I do see
Speaker 2: a little glimmer.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Will thank you Garrett Wilson. But oh Choe,
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't go into a game saying in order for
Speaker 2: us to win, I got to count on my defense
Speaker 2: to get turnovers.
Speaker 4: You don't don't have to think like that. Yeah, don't
Speaker 4: do like that. No, you don't.
Speaker 2: Haven't even come close to winning in games in which
Speaker 2: they don't create turnovers.
Speaker 4: We wasn't the same thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm just saying, why why you gotta be
Speaker 1: so negative about my my jests?
Speaker 4: Man? Why you gotta be so negative?
Speaker 3: I've got to realistic picture.
Speaker 1: It's a realistic picture. But you don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen from game to game. They can come out next
Speaker 1: week based on the confidence, you know what the officer coordinatorbody,
Speaker 1: sit back and look, you know what.
Speaker 4: Zach is feeling a little bit more confident. Maybe I
Speaker 4: can open up the playbook a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Maybe I could do more. Maybe I can do more
Speaker 1: and add a wrinkler to end.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So, now that he has a little bit more confidence
Speaker 4: and he's letting the ball go.
Speaker 3: You do it.
Speaker 2: You do realize football games are like poker hands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the last hand I had has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the next hand I get. The last game you played
Speaker 2: got a damn thing to do with the next game
Speaker 2: that you play.
Speaker 4: So no show, don't it showed? Don't when you have
Speaker 4: a showing.
Speaker 1: When you have a showing like they showed it, like
Speaker 1: they showed tonight against the Super Bowl champs, it makes
Speaker 1: you feel a lot better going into next week.
Speaker 4: It makes you feel a whole lot better.
Speaker 2: Good they won against Buffalo than how they look against
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Since since you there's carryover, you're telling me
Speaker 2: there's carryover, So how do they look against that?
Speaker 3: Monday night?
Speaker 2: He came up the bench reliever with six strong innings,
Speaker 2: won the game, and then the next week what happened
Speaker 2: when they started it?
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna move on. We'll get back to that.
Speaker 3: We'll get back.
Speaker 2: But the Bills Dominatedans defense. Right now, the best team
Speaker 2: the quarter Kansas City Bills, Dolphins, Ravens. Who's the best
Speaker 2: team in AFC?
Speaker 1: Well, obviously until somebody unseaes the Kansas City Chiefs they
Speaker 1: will continue to always keep that rain at the top,
Speaker 1: the top team in the AFC. Now right now, just
Speaker 1: because Buffalo was able to dominate, able to dominate the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: I still see more upside with the Dolphins as opposed
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, even though they.
Speaker 4: Won the game.
Speaker 1: Even though they won the game, remember when you play
Speaker 1: division opponents tendencies samilarity with what they do and what
Speaker 1: they like to do. So those games a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little little, a little bit easier from a defense
Speaker 1: defensive perspective on how to stop because you already know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. But before I got I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know you're gonna say're gonna say for
Speaker 1: they if anything, I got him two A and two B.
Speaker 4: Can I do that? Can I do that? Please?
Speaker 1: And just for the sake, just just for the sake
Speaker 1: of the conversation and the topic I got. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go with the Bills first, the Bills two A and
Speaker 1: the and the Dolphin two B. And then I got
Speaker 1: the Ravens right after that. I got the Ravens right
Speaker 1: after that. And right now, I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 1: with my Bengals. I want to put my Bangals. I
Speaker 1: want to put my Bengals number four.
Speaker 3: So bad.
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about yet we got them coming. But
Speaker 2: let me tell you why. I like the Bills a
Speaker 2: little bit more than I like the Dolphins. And I
Speaker 2: like the Bills a little bit more than I like
Speaker 2: the Chiefs because you see the pressure that they're bringing.
Speaker 3: That's without Von Miller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna start practicing tomorrow, So within the next
Speaker 2: month or so, he's gonna be back on the field.
Speaker 3: Now, they did lose to Davius White to what.
Speaker 2: Looks like in Achilles, and so it looks like he's
Speaker 2: lost for Yes, looks like he's lost.
Speaker 3: For the season.
Speaker 2: But when you you pair Vaughn with Floyd and Russou
Speaker 2: and those guys Ed Oliver right, oh and Milano Matt Mlono,
Speaker 2: he's playing the second best linebacker behind Fred Warner. I
Speaker 2: think you talking about one A and one B. Right,
Speaker 2: that's a hard player.
Speaker 3: Jesson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right here, he's all over the field.
Speaker 2: He's making plays, he's shooting gaps, getting in the backfield,
Speaker 2: he's diagnosing everything, and he's coming up with remedies for
Speaker 2: it immediately. So Miami, I mean they picked the Miami
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Josh Allen twenty one or twenty.
Speaker 3: Five for TDS perfect passer.
Speaker 2: Rating, and he had a rush touchdown. You can't play
Speaker 2: any better than that. You can't play any better. His
Speaker 2: only problem is turnover. Say, if he doesn't turn the
Speaker 2: ball over, they're almost impossible.
Speaker 1: To be almost impossibly. That's that's the thing. You actually
Speaker 1: picking the Bills, right. But then obviously he had Josh
Speaker 1: Allen had a great game today. But what Josh Allen
Speaker 1: you're gonna get? Are we gonna get the same consistent
Speaker 1: Josh Allen that plays this type of football week in
Speaker 1: and week out when you get to the postseason. Can
Speaker 1: we get the Josh Allen performance that we got today?
Speaker 1: Because if this is what we get from Josh Allen
Speaker 1: from this point on leading up to goddamn February, you
Speaker 1: might as well get a ass that god damn Lombardi
Speaker 1: right now, because ain't nobody beating the Josh Allen Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills that you saw today, especially with what they can
Speaker 1: do defensively, and goddamn him, and goddamn I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell Stefan Diggs eight for goddamn breakfast to day.
Speaker 1: I bet it was McDonald's. I bet it was McDonald's
Speaker 1: I bet Dolphins defenders. That's what he That's what he
Speaker 1: for breakfast, had dinner. Because they had no answer. He
Speaker 1: was able to get the ball to gave Davis. They
Speaker 1: ran the ball fairly well. And then you always have.
Speaker 2: To worry about him and his legs and his ability
Speaker 2: to make plays outside of the pocket. That's what makes
Speaker 2: him Because to go back to the previous game, think
Speaker 2: about it. What was it at the end of the
Speaker 2: game that got Kansas City just win? It was Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: Later home thirty thirty goddamned in the highway. We'll be doing.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 2: But the Bills played extremely well today. They put together
Speaker 2: a complete game. Like you said, division games are really tough.
Speaker 2: Buffalo made this look really easy.
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: You look when you played Cleveland, you played Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 2: you played Ravens n fort nipping tuck ball games in
Speaker 2: twenty seven, four, twenty twenty three. There was no forty
Speaker 2: eight twenty type ball games. Because, as you said, there
Speaker 2: is such familiarity. We've been in this division for a
Speaker 2: number of years. We know the personnel, we know what
Speaker 2: you like to do. Buffalo made this look extremely easy.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 4: They made it look easy.
Speaker 1: But this is this is the thing, and I always
Speaker 1: say about the NFL for the casual fans that watch
Speaker 1: the game week to week, ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Ain't no telling what's gonna happen. We just saw Miami
Speaker 1: put up a seventy ball last week. So I guess
Speaker 1: in everybody's mind going into the Buffalo game, you're thinking
Speaker 1: they gonna run away with the game.
Speaker 4: But this is what happens. This is what happens week
Speaker 4: to week in the NFL. It's a toss up. It's
Speaker 4: always a gamble.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why I don't play fantasy
Speaker 1: because you never know.
Speaker 2: You never know if you think about it. What got
Speaker 2: them in trouble is that anytime they brought pressure, they
Speaker 2: were relentless. On tour, they were not gonna let they
Speaker 2: were gonna make you make a decision right now. We're
Speaker 2: not gonna let you have time to find those speed merchants.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna let you find Waddle, We're not gonna
Speaker 2: let you find Tyreek, We're not going to let you
Speaker 2: find Burials. All those guys that can get down the field.
Speaker 2: And they were relentless and with their pressure. And if
Speaker 2: you notice, they were okay, Buffalo got it, scored, Miami scored,
Speaker 2: Buffalo scored.
Speaker 3: Miami's Chami, Buffalo scored. And then what happened.
Speaker 2: They started turning the ball over and then Buffalo scored again,
Speaker 2: and then Miami gets sacked, and then Buffalo scored again.
Speaker 2: And so even though they weren't touchdowns, they got points
Speaker 2: out of those drives in which Miami turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: And so if you you Miami, you gotta take care
Speaker 2: of the football. But you gotta find a way to
Speaker 2: protect tour. Sometimes that's goat personnel with the empty backfield,
Speaker 2: say scat that means five lineing and all the eligible
Speaker 2: receivers are out on routes. Yeah, you got to protect
Speaker 2: that quarterback. You got to protect to U and.
Speaker 1: One of the few ways that you can protect him
Speaker 1: because obviously some of the route they were doing there
Speaker 1: was really nothing short. There was either an intermediate or
Speaker 1: it was it was long man. Get the quick game going,
Speaker 1: Get the quick game going the site the stife for
Speaker 1: the pressure that they are putting. Get the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands really quick, really quick, really quick. Get
Speaker 1: that get that front five that front four, get them tired,
Speaker 1: and then you can go down the field a little
Speaker 1: bit after after you mix up the run a little bit.
Speaker 2: They tried to get a couple of screens early, but
Speaker 2: the edge rushers did a great job of getting their
Speaker 2: hands up and deflecting the balls because they have seemed
Speaker 2: like they had they had something going. Let's get to
Speaker 2: the your Bengals one in three oh and two in
Speaker 2: the division. They have yet to just they have yet
Speaker 2: to score a first half touchdown through four games.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned? Is it time to panic yet? I
Speaker 1: don't think it's time to panic yet. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's time to panic yet. We are one to three.
Speaker 4: It's a seventeen game season.
Speaker 1: One thing my mama always told me and anything in life,
Speaker 1: when it comes to wanting to have success on the
Speaker 1: back end, it ain't a sprint, baby, It's always a marathon.
Speaker 4: It's not a sprint. It's always a marathon.
Speaker 1: And the marathon goes in three phases, and right now
Speaker 1: we're in phase number one, and it's not too late
Speaker 1: for us, but.
Speaker 4: We need to do but we do.
Speaker 1: What we do need to do is get back to
Speaker 1: the drawing board offensively and figure out how all these
Speaker 1: teams have seemed to have figured us out to where
Speaker 1: the things that we've been extremely efficient on is not
Speaker 1: working as opposed to the way it worked the past
Speaker 1: two years.
Speaker 4: Well, I said, like.
Speaker 2: What, I don't know. I hadn't run a whole lot
Speaker 2: of marathons in my life. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I run any But I can tell you this. You
Speaker 2: can run a marathon, but you let those canyons run
Speaker 2: four and a half minute five minute miles, and you
Speaker 2: run twelve minute miles, and you see.
Speaker 3: If you catch them.
Speaker 1: Listen, this is the thing about it. It's like running
Speaker 1: the eight hundred or the fifteen hundred meters. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't need to get in the front of they listen.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you don't need to be at the front
Speaker 1: of the pack, you just need to be right there
Speaker 1: in the middle or right down on somebody hip because
Speaker 1: at the right time, you got to know when to kick.
Speaker 4: That's all. That's all. That's all we're looking for you
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the position that we are in right
Speaker 1: now as a team.
Speaker 2: Look at your offensive line and look at Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: and you tell me, in all honesty, you feel comfortable
Speaker 2: with where you are right now?
Speaker 4: Can I tell you something?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: You know, you know what we've been talking about and
Speaker 1: fussing about in general through the media because I'm on
Speaker 1: the other side now. We didn't talk about that offensive
Speaker 1: line the past two years, you know, you know, do
Speaker 1: you know what we were Last year? We were in
Speaker 1: the FC Championship with that same office line, let me finish,
Speaker 1: let me finish nine. The year before that, you know
Speaker 1: where we were at with that same office line. We
Speaker 1: talked about we were in the super Bowl, That's what we were.
Speaker 4: Just FOYI.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know that same offensive line. Office
Speaker 1: line is a problem for many and many of teams.
Speaker 4: So what do we do? What do you do?
Speaker 1: You find ways to those who might be the week
Speaker 1: that on your office ave line.
Speaker 4: You find ways to manipulate and hide it. There are
Speaker 4: ways you can do it. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not an officer line coach, I'm not an officer coordinator,
Speaker 1: but I do know there are ways that you can
Speaker 1: hide the weaknesses on your line where you're struggling.
Speaker 2: O Joe, Yes, sir, you and I have talked at
Speaker 2: nauseam about how one year has no impact on the
Speaker 2: next So you climb the mountain and you get to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Just because you almost got to the top,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean when you start at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the next year, you get back to where you got
Speaker 2: to the previous year. So just because you guys started
Speaker 2: zero to two and you ended up in the a
Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game and you ended up in the Super Bowl, what.
Speaker 3: Does that go to?
Speaker 2: Do you look at the way your quarterback is playing,
Speaker 2: You look at your offense. Have yet to score a
Speaker 2: touchdown in the first half? Did they do that in
Speaker 2: the previous two years?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 1: No, they was on fire or they were on fire
Speaker 1: offensively right out the motherfucking gate.
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown was trending again.
Speaker 2: So tell me why an offensive line would be trending
Speaker 2: again for the second times in four weeks.
Speaker 3: Tell me why Ojoe wait, he.
Speaker 1: Was trending because I well, I don't know what happened. No,
Speaker 1: not this listen all bushes Swift was in Nashville. I
Speaker 1: was in Tennessee. You know I was at the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, So why was he trending? If you were at
Speaker 2: the game, so you saw what a lot of people
Speaker 2: didn't see.
Speaker 4: No, No, I missed it because I left in the
Speaker 4: third court.
Speaker 1: I had to get back home. So now you're telling
Speaker 1: me something I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's see Joe Burrow versus the Brown Weeks one,
Speaker 2: two sacks, ten quarterback hits against the Ravens, Week two,
Speaker 2: one sack, five quarterback hits against the Rams, Week three,
Speaker 2: two sacks, six quarterback hits versus the Titans, Week four,
Speaker 2: three sacks, nine quarterback hits. So, in other words, the
Speaker 2: man who's been hit thirty times and he's been sacked eight.
Speaker 3: Times, and you say, well, you know what eight We've
Speaker 3: been here before.
Speaker 1: Dude, dude, we Tennessee Tennessee Titans, Tennessee Titans defense.
Speaker 4: Where's it? Where's our identity? Where's the strength of their
Speaker 4: their defense?
Speaker 3: The what.
Speaker 4: That front?
Speaker 3: Telling hello?
Speaker 4: That ain't that front? We didn't just play?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, bunch of I don't want to
Speaker 1: be disrespectful.
Speaker 4: This is NFL.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons and then them you them young fellows and
Speaker 1: they what I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2: That's your offense. You keep telling me what did they do?
Speaker 2: What do they do? What do your offense do? When
Speaker 2: are you gonna tell me something that they don't talk
Speaker 2: about Tennessee.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about Tennessee in a minute.
Speaker 2: We'll get to them, and Derrick Henry bludgeoned them throwing
Speaker 2: running the football. Let's talk about your offense, because you
Speaker 2: told me two years ago they were in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Last year they went to the AFC Championship, and you
Speaker 2: told me just a minute ago that y'all started out
Speaker 2: on fire.
Speaker 3: Is that y'all had to get your feet with on
Speaker 3: the defensive side.
Speaker 4: Now again, we've had the same offense. The struggle.
Speaker 1: This this is a tugging war. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: as it's it's it's a it's a give and take.
Speaker 1: We've had the same conversation at the beginning of every
Speaker 1: season about the offense, the line wolves. We know, there's
Speaker 1: really nothing I can say about the offensive line woes
Speaker 1: except that they got to get back to the drawing
Speaker 1: board and figure out a way to mask and hide
Speaker 1: those that might have a weakness.
Speaker 4: Offensively. There's nothing I can say, and I just said offensively.
Speaker 1: What we've always done is we've always risen to the
Speaker 1: top on the back end when it mattered most. The
Speaker 1: fact that we're in a hole right now, we're one
Speaker 1: to three. Yes, we are one and three. There's only
Speaker 1: one way to fix it. There's only one way to
Speaker 1: fix it.
Speaker 2: But normally a defense and an offense can only hide
Speaker 2: one player as long as it's not your quarterback.
Speaker 3: We can hide a week offensive line.
Speaker 4: You can't hide your quarterback, especially not in this day
Speaker 4: and age. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't hid You can't hide five offensive lineman either.
Speaker 2: But in the previous two years, let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question. In the previous two years, with Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: dealing with a calf injury and seemingly I saw him
Speaker 2: on the sideline doing something with his arm.
Speaker 4: So he's a waterball, got hit, got hit.
Speaker 2: So he was dealing with that in the previous two seasons,
Speaker 2: the calf and the elbow.
Speaker 3: He was dealing with that. Yes or no?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: So you feel so?
Speaker 4: So this year I still feel good. Do you understand?
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Do you understand Joe Burrow is a pocket passing quarterback
Speaker 1: right that has the ability to run and escape as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they went when they went on that Super
Speaker 2: Bowl run. What was it that Joe Burrow did? Got
Speaker 2: key third downs with what ojo legs? Yeah, now he
Speaker 2: can no longer do that. He also can't get outside
Speaker 2: the pocket and fry Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: T Higgins has fractured ribs. So now again, do you.
Speaker 2: Still feel as comfortable talking about the Bengals moving forward
Speaker 2: because of what they did the previous two years? Considering
Speaker 2: your quarterback has a calf, an elbow. T Higgins has
Speaker 2: fractured ribs.
Speaker 1: T t at t be fine. Fraction of ribs you
Speaker 1: can play with man Tea. Put on the flat jacket
Speaker 1: what you call it, yeah, flap jacket. Yes, we put
Speaker 1: it on a flapjack. He'll be fine.
Speaker 4: And I think and.
Speaker 1: Joe said it obviously in the interview on how losing
Speaker 1: t Higgins has hurt them, because it hurt them tremendously
Speaker 1: because some of the things that they're able to do
Speaker 1: offensively when he's in the lineup, Even though they have
Speaker 1: some quality backups, it's still not the same with t
Speaker 1: not being in there. At eighty percent Joe Burrow listen
Speaker 1: to me, listen to me real quick, and eighty percent
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow that is hobbled but still has the arm
Speaker 1: in the in the mental capacity in IQ he has
Speaker 1: as a quarterback to get the job done. Is still
Speaker 1: better than other teams. Quarterback got one hundred percent if
Speaker 1: you don't mind why, which is why, which is why
Speaker 1: I feel the way I do about the Bengals. Why
Speaker 1: I don't have to say over one in three it's
Speaker 1: time to panic. That's why I feel that way.
Speaker 2: How many in your career, how many receivers have you
Speaker 2: known we're flapjackets just because they wanted to?
Speaker 3: Well, why don't receivers wear flapjackets.
Speaker 4: It's uncomfortable because you can't put your damn arm down
Speaker 4: for one.
Speaker 2: Wow, So it's just gonna be that either for t
Speaker 2: Higgins to put one on and go play wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just I'm just saying. I mean, you're not
Speaker 4: gonna have a choice.
Speaker 3: You go.
Speaker 4: You got to protect your ribs.
Speaker 1: Now, you got to protect your ribs. Listen, listen the
Speaker 1: flattackers they have to day with the way all the
Speaker 1: high end technology stuff. It wouldn't be the big fat
Speaker 1: ones with your r's be sitting on sitting on your
Speaker 1: side like that.
Speaker 4: You know they got they got some stuff you can
Speaker 4: wear that can feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you still but you still got to catch
Speaker 3: the ball. The ball. You got to get used to
Speaker 3: that ball catching.
Speaker 2: Cut kareem in off your body, because it's not like
Speaker 2: you can catch everything.
Speaker 4: Higgins catch with his hands. Don't do that.
Speaker 3: We catch the game called every ball with their hands.
Speaker 3: I did that.
Speaker 4: I never used my Bodame did I did?
Speaker 3: I pulled some tape. But I ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 3: I believe this slack. Okay, but.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 2: Through four games this year, Joe Burrow has two touchdowns
Speaker 2: through four games. Last year, he had eight touchdowns. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, through four games, he had nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2: So again I'm gonna ask you again.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, can I tell you something?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just told you it's not how you start, right.
Speaker 1: I just gave you the analogy about the marathon and
Speaker 1: the sprint, right, it ain't how you start. Just because
Speaker 1: he had your name and numbers from year to year,
Speaker 1: didn't you say you gotta down?
Speaker 3: Didn't you?
Speaker 4: But listen to me. Didn't you just tell me about
Speaker 4: climbing the mound, climbing the mountain.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when the next year come, you got to
Speaker 1: start all the way back on. Yes, Well, just because
Speaker 1: it didn't start the way it did the previous two
Speaker 1: years doesn't mean we're not gonna get what we want
Speaker 1: to get to.
Speaker 3: What you're saying, you told me to read.
Speaker 2: Even though we started bad, look at how we started
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: Look at how we started.
Speaker 1: Yet where the promise comes in at where there's nothing
Speaker 1: to worry about because you know where it's gonna get to.
Speaker 4: It just didn't start off the way it did the
Speaker 4: two previous years. We still got the same we still
Speaker 4: got the same regime, we still got the same personnel.
Speaker 4: That's how you know it's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: But your quarterback is not as healthy. Everything predicated on idness. Listen,
Speaker 2: you're not listening to me.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow at one hundred percent is the second best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league behind Patrick Mahomes. Joe, But Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow at eighty percent is the third best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 3: No, not even close, not even close to being eighty percent.
Speaker 4: Man, stop playing with Joe Shiste.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, oh your what you're over, what
Speaker 2: you're failing to mention, is that Joe Burrows at one
Speaker 2: hundred percent can rise that sinking ship, which is your
Speaker 2: poor offensive line. But see now, Joe Burrow at eighty percent,
Speaker 2: they bring him down they drown him.
Speaker 3: They drowned the rest of this team.
Speaker 2: It's not like you got it's not like you have
Speaker 2: the two thousand Ravens defense.
Speaker 3: That's not what you have.
Speaker 2: So now you needed you need, Joe, to be almost
Speaker 2: one hundred percent because of the inequities that you have
Speaker 2: at the glaring, what you have at the offensive line,
Speaker 2: your secondary, who your secondary. You can't keep losing the
Speaker 2: bond bells and the guys that they lost, those were
Speaker 2: those are big subtractions that you got.
Speaker 4: O Joe, Listen, we're gonna be alright again.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm gonna check back.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be alright. It's early, matter of fact.
Speaker 1: Check back, check check back in with me when we
Speaker 1: get about week six and seven, and when I when
Speaker 1: I'm able to hit you with that what I told
Speaker 1: you or what I told you about that marathon, what
Speaker 1: I told you about when you win that fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4: You don't need to you don't need to leave the
Speaker 4: lap the first three four laps.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you would stay stay right in the state,
Speaker 1: stay righting somebody hip pocket, you know, till it's time
Speaker 1: to kick.
Speaker 4: And when you kick, make sure you kick at the right.
Speaker 3: Time, O Joe.
Speaker 2: You know sometimes people just run a marathon just to
Speaker 2: say they ran one. I hope come week eight, y'all
Speaker 2: ain't just playing the remaining games just to say y'all
Speaker 2: finish the season.
Speaker 4: Okay, like that.
Speaker 2: The Kenyons, they're running to win the race. Sue Ellen
Speaker 2: down the street. She ended the marathon to say she
Speaker 2: chucking off a bucket lit. Okay, I don't want the
Speaker 2: Bengals to check off the last seven of eight games
Speaker 2: off the bucket list because they just had to finish
Speaker 2: out the season.
Speaker 1: You a non believer, and one thing, one thing we
Speaker 1: love to do. We love to make believers out of
Speaker 1: non believers. You keep that saying, You keep that same energy. Man,
Speaker 1: come when it started getting cold?
Speaker 2: All right, Cowboys blow the doors off the Patriots. The
Speaker 2: thirty five point loss was the worst in Bill Belichick's career,
Speaker 2: the fifty five points the Patriots have scored this season,
Speaker 2: or the Fuesdays scored in the first four game since
Speaker 2: he became head coach in two thousand, Belichick's first year.
Speaker 2: When you look at we can talk, we can address
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, because again, what do they get scoop and
Speaker 2: score a pick? Six that one touchdowns. Now they are
Speaker 2: what one red zone touchdown in their last eight trips.
Speaker 1: It's difficult to score in that red zone, man, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, I said it before and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: It's very difficult. The closer you get to the end
Speaker 1: zone or the closer you get to into the into
Speaker 1: the opponent's territory and you haven't scored from you know,
Speaker 1: fifty sixty, you know fifty, you know from the forty,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to score. It's very difficult to score.
Speaker 1: But the fact that the defense is playing so well,
Speaker 1: playing so well yet again and bails out the offense,
Speaker 1: that is a good thing because the tides are gonna
Speaker 1: turn at some point where the defense isn't gonna play
Speaker 1: so well, where the offense takes over and it becomes
Speaker 1: that week kind.
Speaker 3: Of like last week.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know, I don't know what bingo hold on.
Speaker 2: You told me when the defense was though play well,
Speaker 2: that was gonna be the offense opportunity to bail them out.
Speaker 3: So I just went back to last week.
Speaker 1: Like last week, I mean, listen, what happened, what happened
Speaker 1: with what happened with the Dolphins, with the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Broncos last week. Whoa And then then you come
Speaker 1: then you come to and you come into a game
Speaker 1: against today against the Bills, and everything changes week to week.
Speaker 1: Different things change depending on who you plan. When you
Speaker 1: think about it, you thought Dallas is going there and
Speaker 1: gonna kill Arizona. That's just that's just that's the nature
Speaker 1: of the Beasts in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Week the week, you just don't know.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out a lot about We'll know a
Speaker 2: lot about a lot more about the Cowboys over the
Speaker 2: next four games. They're on the road Sunday Night Football
Speaker 2: against the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3: They get the.
Speaker 2: Chargers, they get the Rams, and then they get who
Speaker 2: do they play after that?
Speaker 3: Another team, the Eagles on the road.
Speaker 2: Three of the next four games on the road, So
Speaker 2: I think we'll have a better a better indication at
Speaker 2: the midway point exactly who the Cowboys are.
Speaker 1: So basically, out of the next three games, one of
Speaker 1: these games could basically be the NFC championship. Yeah, early
Speaker 1: NFC championship. Basically that's that's that's all it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all it is.
Speaker 2: Because I mean it's really top head. They basically you
Speaker 2: got the forty nine ers, you got the Eagles and
Speaker 2: you got the Cowboys. That's it, I mean, But then.
Speaker 4: Then what then what happens?
Speaker 1: You know, come playoff time, you get a game like
Speaker 1: surprisingly sometimes you never know, you get an Arizona come
Speaker 1: out of nowhere the way they played, the way they
Speaker 1: played the Cowboys last week, and something like that could
Speaker 1: happen come playoff time, where it's a team that comes
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and gets the opportunity and gets a
Speaker 1: shot and knocks off a team that.
Speaker 4: You would suspect would beat them anyway.
Speaker 2: These games mean so much more, not only for purposes
Speaker 2: because guess what, now we have a common opponent.
Speaker 3: We played you.
Speaker 2: When it comes to home field, you come now, you
Speaker 2: come back to the Bay or do we go to Dallas?
Speaker 2: You go to the Egles financial field or do you
Speaker 2: go to Dallas or do you go to the Bay.
Speaker 3: So these games.
Speaker 2: Are going to be very important because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, if it's an NFC championship game, I
Speaker 2: want it in my building.
Speaker 4: You want to be home.
Speaker 3: It doesn't guarantee me anything, but I wanted it in
Speaker 3: my building.
Speaker 1: It doesn't I wanted I always thought about it as
Speaker 1: a player.
Speaker 4: Did you buy in the home field? El?
Speaker 1: And I when I play away at the way games,
Speaker 1: I can't even hit a crowd. When I play home,
Speaker 1: I can't even hit a crowd, even though they're right
Speaker 1: there on top of you. I mean just I'm just mentally,
Speaker 1: I'm in such a zone where I'm really not affected
Speaker 1: by any outside noise outside of what's going on in
Speaker 1: that moment on the field.
Speaker 2: I I was fortunate. I won one championship game at home.
Speaker 2: I won two on the road. The best part about
Speaker 2: winning on the road is like being able to celebrate
Speaker 2: on somebody else's field. And then the crowd is like
Speaker 2: leaving the stadium. Now you're at home and you lose.
Speaker 2: Those are your fans, and you.
Speaker 3: Empathize, like, damn, we let them down. Bro.
Speaker 2: We fought so hard to get home field so we
Speaker 2: could play this game in front of our fans, and
Speaker 2: we didn't get done and we let you lay an egg.
Speaker 2: But give the Cowboys credit. The Cowboys again, scoop and
Speaker 2: score a pick six. Uh.
Speaker 3: They played extremely well.
Speaker 2: They made the one dimensional and they were able to
Speaker 2: put pressure on Mac Jones all night long, so.
Speaker 3: That wasn't needed, even though he had good numbers.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that Mike McCarthy's gonna keep preaching guys,
Speaker 2: we've got to cast these possessions in kicking.
Speaker 3: Field goal gets you beat against good teams.
Speaker 2: Scoring touchdown when you championships, when you get into the
Speaker 2: red zone.
Speaker 1: And then when you're gonna you're gonna play teams that
Speaker 1: have a high, high our tank offense that's going to
Speaker 1: score points sometimes. And they scored him from far out
Speaker 1: because when you play the forty nine Ers, man ain't
Speaker 1: no telling what the hell they gonna do. When you
Speaker 1: play the Eagles, ain't no. You got to deal with
Speaker 1: Devontae Smith and A J.
Speaker 4: Brown.
Speaker 1: Then you got to swift come out the backfield, and
Speaker 1: they can score from anywhere. So you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to take when you do get those turnovers,
Speaker 1: you got to turn them into points.
Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about three.
Speaker 2: Do you believe coach Belichick can pass Don Shuler? He's
Speaker 2: twenty nine to win away because see look, okay, coach
Speaker 2: ul has three hundred and twenty nine I mean three
Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven career victories.
Speaker 3: Correct, right, career victories.
Speaker 2: He has three hundred and twenty eight regular season victories.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick has two ninety nine. So do you believe
Speaker 2: he can pass? Do you believe he can pass him?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I believe he could pass him. But he would have
Speaker 1: he would have to. You would have to go somewhere else. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: no disrespect, he would have to. I think maybe the
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. I think maybe the quarterback situation. I don't
Speaker 1: know if if today is a good testament or test
Speaker 1: to mac Jones. I think Mac Jones is who he is.
Speaker 1: We've seen enough of Mac Jones to know that this,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna get. And you can't turn
Speaker 1: the ball. You can't turn the ball over. You can't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over because you don't have the offense
Speaker 1: to overcome turnovers.
Speaker 4: You don't have can't.
Speaker 2: Score on your possessions. The oppoland team can't score on
Speaker 2: your possession. It's hard enough to defend them when they
Speaker 2: have the ball. Now you're giving them points on your possessions.
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to overcome back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have the firepower. Obviously, Thomas not there, Thomas
Speaker 1: not walking, and he ain't coming back. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: ain't coming back, and the offense is just different. It's
Speaker 1: just different, you know, as opposed to when when times
Speaker 1: a little bit simpler, when number twelve was at the helm.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes you don't realize how good you
Speaker 2: have something until it's gone, and you know, you start
Speaker 2: everybody start to believe, and whether it's a relationship, and
Speaker 2: you know, you're like, I find somebody else they're more me,
Speaker 2: that there are more you than they are met.
Speaker 3: And then you realize, well, damn, she did do an
Speaker 3: awful lot.
Speaker 2: She kept me organized, she kept me on point, She
Speaker 2: kept this in the order, cat got the kids ready.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to worry about all that.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, sometimes I think Coach Belichick
Speaker 2: ball like, you know what, man, that's all me, Bro,
Speaker 2: I got this. I'm doing all the shopping. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm hiring all the help. And nah, bro, don't I
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think he thought that. There's no
Speaker 2: way he thought that. And understanding and how special did
Speaker 2: you reset Wickersham feast about he wanted to get rid
Speaker 2: of Brady back in twenty seventeen for Jimmy.
Speaker 1: T You think, oh, yeah, well, guess did you did,
Speaker 1: you did you? I know who went upstairs and told
Speaker 1: him to get Jimmy g out of here? Because I
Speaker 1: don't want that over my shoulder.
Speaker 2: But if the man would so, why would he have
Speaker 2: to do that if he wasn't trying to get rid
Speaker 2: of it?
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I mean, yeah, right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. But sometimes you know, that's
Speaker 1: like you have a girlfriend, you have a girlfriend. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just using this analogy so people can get
Speaker 1: a better understanding where I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Yes, people understand relationships.
Speaker 1: You got a girlfriend and you see something that's that
Speaker 1: is beautiful, they say, you're dating the seven. You see
Speaker 1: a ten, and you think that ten is so much
Speaker 1: better than what you already have at home.
Speaker 4: Right, you leave your girl.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna try and go date and date this
Speaker 1: ten and it comes out to be nothing like what
Speaker 1: you had before, and you end up regretting it and
Speaker 1: you end up being miserable.
Speaker 4: Right, And that's basically the situation.
Speaker 2: Give me the steady seven, that static seven. That's gonna be,
Speaker 2: like my grandma used to say, like an old shoot,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be there.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be tried in.
Speaker 1: Truth every time, every time, and there's a reason. There's
Speaker 1: a reason in the Bible the number of completion is
Speaker 1: number seven. I'm taking seven with you all day when
Speaker 1: you shoot craps and you want to hit seven dolls,
Speaker 1: seven dos, baby, talk to me, now, stay with me.
Speaker 2: The Bears blow the largest lead I think, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken in the history, Justin Fields was having the
Speaker 2: day of days. He was having the game of his
Speaker 2: career beautiful until the final three drives he goes lost,
Speaker 2: fumble to tie the game, turnover on downs on the
Speaker 2: fourth That that was. That was coaching, because you kick
Speaker 2: the field goal and you then you go up three,
Speaker 2: and now you force them to either kick the field
Speaker 2: goal to tie you or get the touchdown to beat you,
Speaker 2: and then the game and the interception. Here's something that's
Speaker 2: very interesting. Oo, the Bears might be tanking for Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams because not only if they tank they get the
Speaker 2: number one pick, but they got Carolina's pick also, which
Speaker 2: could be the number two pick, So you could possibly
Speaker 2: get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison junr.
Speaker 4: You think what they where they do that? Will they
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 1: Would they would they really sabotage the play calling offensively
Speaker 1: and defensively. Defensively, weeke in and week out to get
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 3: We see them doingall.
Speaker 4: Listen that that takes us.
Speaker 1: That takes us back to the situation and analogy that
Speaker 1: we just explained and having something at your disposals, having
Speaker 1: something that your ham that you don't even know what
Speaker 1: to do it, but you're trying to say, you know,
Speaker 1: forget this, I'm gonna try to go.
Speaker 4: Get these new proof, these these new.
Speaker 1: Shiny toys that are that are doing extremely well at
Speaker 1: the collegiate level.
Speaker 4: Saving again, saving again. We just talked about that.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I personally, oh Joe, I do not believe
Speaker 2: the Bears would pass on two quarterbacks because they had
Speaker 2: the highest grade Bryce Young and Caleb Williams. I don't
Speaker 2: believe they'll pass on both of those quarterbacks. Do you
Speaker 2: honestly do you believe they would pass on both of
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But again, if you didn't know what to do with
Speaker 1: the one you got now, if you don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with the one you got now, what makes
Speaker 1: you believe you're gonna know what to do with the
Speaker 1: one you get from you as.
Speaker 2: Well another regime, because here's the thing now, are if
Speaker 2: I believe another regime would come in, if you stick
Speaker 2: with Justin Fields, that's three regimes.
Speaker 3: That'll be his third regime. Regime.
Speaker 2: Now, you said it was Matt Naggett and his play calling.
Speaker 2: You said it's ever Flew and that play calling. Whoever
Speaker 2: the OC is. So at some point in time we
Speaker 2: got to look as great if Justin Fields played in
Speaker 2: the first three the first up until those final three drives,
Speaker 2: it was awful the last three drives.
Speaker 1: Right, So I mean you you basing so you're not
Speaker 1: even taking what he did throughout the game where he
Speaker 1: was playing phenomenal football, great football at that based on
Speaker 1: you know what he has showed us so far at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season and the growth where it
Speaker 1: could a one game all you needed is a little
Speaker 1: confidence and boom you had the kind of game he
Speaker 1: had outside of those those last three drives.
Speaker 4: So you basing his performance on those last three drives.
Speaker 3: Only ask your question. You go to you've been to Vegas.
Speaker 3: You have a game with in Vegas.
Speaker 4: Boy, I'm cheap. Now you know I ain't spending no money.
Speaker 2: But let's just say, for the sake of argument, you
Speaker 2: go to you go to Vegas. Argument Okay, Okay, you
Speaker 2: playing poker, You up twenty million, you got twenty million?
Speaker 2: How much you up twenty million? And then at the
Speaker 2: end of the night you lost it all. Are they
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that you was up twenty million? Or
Speaker 2: they gonna talk about the fact that you lost.
Speaker 4: Oh They're gonna talk about the fact that I lost.
Speaker 3: Oh So, so what are we talking about right now
Speaker 3: with Justin Field?
Speaker 4: Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1: Okay, when you put it, when you put it like that,
Speaker 1: I gotta put it. Listen, when you put it to
Speaker 1: me like that. Goddamn goddamn, Because quarterback, what do we measure?
Speaker 3: Tom Brady? Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, the greats.
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys they got They played bad
Speaker 2: the whole game, but when they needed to put something together, the.
Speaker 4: Last always come through every time.
Speaker 2: And Justin Towns was having the day of his life
Speaker 2: throwing the football. We know his legs are his legs
Speaker 2: are magical. But in today's game, you're not gonna win
Speaker 2: your way. You're not going to run your way to
Speaker 2: a championship with your quarterback legs.
Speaker 3: You're not.
Speaker 2: It's just not because they've set the game up, Ojo,
Speaker 2: for you to be able to throw all this incidental contact,
Speaker 2: all this holding all his hands to the face, all
Speaker 2: this what the fizers receiver, and you could only hit
Speaker 2: the quarterback in this area. Let that sink in, Ojo.
Speaker 2: You can only hit the quarterback in the in the
Speaker 2: width of his numbers. So this is twelve, or this
Speaker 2: is fourteen or whatever your quarterback number.
Speaker 3: This that's the only target you.
Speaker 1: Can hit, right, I mean that It is crazy when
Speaker 1: you think about it in hindsight. Another thing I would
Speaker 1: I would go back to is the NFL actually protecting
Speaker 1: themselves long term for anybody to try to come back.
Speaker 4: That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1: But again, they've handicapped the defense to a point to
Speaker 1: whether it's a past happy league. And it's almost unfair.
Speaker 1: It's almost unfair, you know, for those that play defense,
Speaker 1: to the point where those that are getting paid defensively
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they deserve every dime, they deserve every dime they
Speaker 1: get because they can't do nothing nothing.
Speaker 4: They can't do nothing.
Speaker 2: Nothing because they can potentially if we go back and look,
Speaker 2: the Jets had gotten off the field, had gotten an
Speaker 2: interception from Patrick Mahomes and they got a five yard hold.
Speaker 2: It was thirty sixteen. They get a five yard pillar
Speaker 2: day on Sauce first down. That wasn't Man's.
Speaker 1: Robert Sala had every right to be going off on
Speaker 1: the sideline on that coach because that that could have
Speaker 1: changed the momentum, the shift of that game for them,
Speaker 1: and they ruined it.
Speaker 2: We talked about this guy last week, Chase Claypool, Chase.
Speaker 4: Chase.
Speaker 2: He wasn't at the game the team told. The team
Speaker 2: spokesman said he was told to stay away.
Speaker 3: He would.
Speaker 2: The Steelers traded him for the thirty second pick in
Speaker 2: the draft. They're hoping they can get a fifth or
Speaker 2: sixth round pick. I told you last week, imagine if
Speaker 2: TJ or one of your tea, one of your receiver
Speaker 2: teammates had said, oh, your nose, that's not that performance,
Speaker 2: That type of effort is not acceptable.
Speaker 1: That that had nothing to do with why they told
Speaker 1: him to stay at home. I think they told him
Speaker 1: to stay at home because of the comments that he
Speaker 1: made when a reporter asked him all the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: using you right offensively, and his answer was no and
Speaker 1: basic based off his answer in b and honest and
Speaker 1: truthful on them not using him the right way, because
Speaker 1: as you can see, the Bears aren't playing good football offensively.
Speaker 1: They're not using any of their officers stars the right way,
Speaker 1: including DJ Moore or Darnay Mooney.
Speaker 3: Lemon can ask your question with Pittsburgh used him correctly.
Speaker 1: They traded it not not not to his soul potential.
Speaker 1: They traded him because of what they had in the
Speaker 1: receiver room.
Speaker 4: Are ready?
Speaker 2: Well you hold on, wait a minute. If he's what
Speaker 2: you said, he is, cree rise to the top regardless
Speaker 2: of what's in that room.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: If he is what you If he's what you said
Speaker 2: he is, why does it matter that Deontay Johnson or
Speaker 2: George Pickens or whomever else is in that room.
Speaker 3: Why does it matter if Chase Claypool is what you said?
Speaker 1: Listen that that's a that's an issue and a problem
Speaker 1: with personnel and the stealers organization and not wanting him around.
Speaker 1: But I have an understanding of watching him watching huh.
Speaker 4: But it's the NFL. Everybody good. It's the NFL everybody good.
Speaker 1: That's what that that's why they feel, or we can
Speaker 1: get rid of him and get the production from somewhere
Speaker 1: else and somebody else. That's just that's the nature of
Speaker 1: the business. That's the nature of the beast, and that
Speaker 1: is the way they think. And you know what, sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't get that. Sometimes you don't replace what you
Speaker 1: think might be better. The grass ain't always green on
Speaker 1: the others, Joe.
Speaker 2: You normally get one chance to go somewhere and then say,
Speaker 2: you know what, they didn't use improperly.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the James Harden situation.
Speaker 2: You can't force your way out of Houston, force your
Speaker 2: way out of Brooklyn, try to force your way out
Speaker 2: of Philly, and think people gonna empathize with you.
Speaker 1: You can't keep saying when you when you're putting up
Speaker 1: twenty one, thirteen and in eight, yes you can.
Speaker 3: No, yes you.
Speaker 2: Can, because you see what's happening right now, don't you. Well,
Speaker 2: tauk to everybody gonna say how long before he's unhappy?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: Anybody would take James hard Man, don't do that.
Speaker 3: Maybe me talk about what we talk about.
Speaker 1: One of the most prolific scores of all time. I
Speaker 1: am now coming off the driver. What man, don't don't
Speaker 1: do that. Don't don't do that. Come on now, And
Speaker 1: I know you're not trying to compare James Harden Chase Claypool.
Speaker 1: I'm no, completely different spectrums.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how about this here, Antonio Brown.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Steelers got tired of him, The Oakland Raiders got tired
Speaker 2: of him, The New England Patriots got tired of him.
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers got tired of it. Don't tell
Speaker 2: me you can't wear at your welcome because you can,
Speaker 2: o Jo, And I don't care how great you are, right,
Speaker 2: okay with that? A man of comparison, how about how
Speaker 2: about ab A guy came off one hundred catch season
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen hundred yards and what did the Steelers do?
Speaker 4: Moved on? Has it been so far since it's been gone? Man? Wait, wait,
Speaker 4: wait him?
Speaker 1: How has it been from my offices standpoint of receiver
Speaker 1: production since he's been gone?
Speaker 4: I'm just asking, I'm just asking you.
Speaker 2: Just you love You just told me you love George
Speaker 2: Pickens that I do.
Speaker 1: I do love him to death? You mean I have,
Speaker 1: But you still didn't answer the question. What has the
Speaker 1: production been the same since he's been gone. No, and
Speaker 1: just answer the question that's automatic. Have we gotten the
Speaker 1: same type of production av producer?
Speaker 4: Why why?
Speaker 1: So wait let me finish. Now stay with me, now,
Speaker 1: stay with me. So we haven't gotten the same type
Speaker 1: of production. J Claypool is going from the Steelers right
Speaker 1: because they were they're not They're not using they say
Speaker 1: they weren't using him, right.
Speaker 3: Right, that's what he said. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You got George Picking, got Deontay Johnson? Are they using
Speaker 1: are they using them? Fellas? Are using fellas?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: They're using them correctly. I just don't know that. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, if they were used, If they were,
Speaker 1: if they were using them correctly, they will still be
Speaker 1: able to put up somewhat of the numbers that Aby
Speaker 1: was no or on my trip.
Speaker 3: Hold on, are you comparing those guys the A B.
Speaker 2: Was A can make a case that he's he's an
Speaker 2: all decade receiver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm just I'm just saying he can make
Speaker 4: a case he's an.
Speaker 3: You made the key.
Speaker 1: You just compared one of the best prolific NBA scoring
Speaker 1: the Chase Clo.
Speaker 2: What what I'm saying you only get grace in moving
Speaker 2: a handful of times. You can't keep moving and saying
Speaker 2: they're not using me correctly. At some point in time,
Speaker 2: you can't keep saying this organization is bad. Okay, you
Speaker 2: said Houston was bad. You went to Brooklyn, that organization
Speaker 2: was bad. Now you in Philly, Pheling is bad. You
Speaker 2: want to go somewhere else. You hold on, I forgot,
Speaker 2: hold on, I forgot about Okay, s so okay C Houston, Brooklyn, Philly.
Speaker 2: How many times do we get to change and the
Speaker 2: only common de nominator, the organization is still going. What's
Speaker 2: the common denominator the individual? So I'm just saying with
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool, I don't, oh yo, think about it.
Speaker 3: He went to He's a big kid. He's like six
Speaker 3: five two.
Speaker 4: Three really well, just like Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 3: If if you look at.
Speaker 2: His numbers, his Notre Dame numbers. Didn't didn't like man,
Speaker 2: because a lot of people thought the kid was gonna
Speaker 2: have to back up and move the tight end right
Speaker 2: something that something is going on with him internally, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: But these teams, oh Jo, you know, these teams will move.
Speaker 2: On, man, they'll eat thirty fifty million dollars like it's nothing.
Speaker 4: Quick, because they gonna make it up anyway, make it up.
Speaker 4: They're gonna make it up anyway.
Speaker 2: They they're not gonna have you dragging your feet on there.
Speaker 2: But he just got to make it up in his mind. Bro,
Speaker 2: you want to play football or not?
Speaker 3: Right? I don't know. I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I think we got something.
Speaker 1: He needs the right situation. I think needs to be
Speaker 1: in the right I don't know what the right situation is.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to feel welcome. He needs to
Speaker 1: feel welcome where he is. And that's that's all. It
Speaker 1: takes some time, Shannon. That's all it takes some time
Speaker 1: is for a player to be in a situation where
Speaker 1: he feels welcome where you team, where they where they
Speaker 1: where they where they want to use him, where they
Speaker 1: want to make him a part of an intricate part
Speaker 1: of the offense.
Speaker 4: That's all, you know what, That's all we want.
Speaker 3: You know why? I feel most welcome? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Bank, how you doing, mister Sharp? How are you today?
Speaker 2: I feel so welcome when I walk up in that
Speaker 2: thing on Joe. I don't know about you, but that's
Speaker 2: why I feel both welcome back. When they say with
Speaker 2: mister sharp, what can we do you today?
Speaker 3: What can we do for you today? Ain't that way
Speaker 3: you feel welcome?
Speaker 1: Sometimes it ain't even about the money. Sometimes they want
Speaker 1: to play for the love of the game. Man, I
Speaker 1: think I think it's frustrations. I think Chase Clay Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool frustrations about the love of the game, not the check.
Speaker 1: But it was about the check. He wouldn't be complaining
Speaker 1: about them not using them the right way. So I'm
Speaker 1: staying standing with my receivers. They're not using the right
Speaker 1: way and then not finished because they ain't using none
Speaker 1: of the motherfuckers they got over there.
Speaker 4: I cursed my bad.
Speaker 1: They're not using none of the receivers they got and
Speaker 1: not using DJ More right, and man, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, Djmore have a nice game today? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh today we we in week two hundred.
Speaker 1: He should have been having he should he should be
Speaker 1: having a nice game every week. Because if you want
Speaker 1: to win, if you want to take that donuts so
Speaker 1: you're not over, you got to get the ball.
Speaker 4: You got to get your special players, you got to
Speaker 4: get him involved in the offense and make it. I
Speaker 4: love everybody, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I love how it is week two hundred
Speaker 2: for everybody else except the Bengals. It's only week four
Speaker 2: for the Bengals, but it's.
Speaker 3: Week two thousand for everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, listen where the Bears haven't been in contention a
Speaker 1: very long time. We coming off goddamn two AFC championships,
Speaker 1: So it's different for us. We got a little leeway,
Speaker 1: We got time that, we got time to get it together.
Speaker 1: Got the last time when the last time the Bear
Speaker 1: has been to the playoffs. I'm just asking, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3: Seventeen yea seven, something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ce Matt Christian McCaffrey another outstanding day, one hundred and
Speaker 2: six rushing yards, seventy one receiving yards, four total touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He's the third player.
Speaker 2: In NFL history to have six hundred scrimming yards and
Speaker 2: seven scrimmage touchdowns in his first four games. He joins
Speaker 2: Emmitt Smith and Jim Brown, who did so twice. Is
Speaker 2: it time to start putting him in the MVP conversation
Speaker 2: or should he have already been there?
Speaker 1: He should have already been there. He should already been
Speaker 1: there because he was the way he was. He was
Speaker 1: a workhorse when he was in Carolina. Yeah, he comes
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and asks of the office that dynamic
Speaker 1: that they already had going on.
Speaker 4: And now he's the work course here and he's doing things.
Speaker 1: Just broke Jerry Rice's record for most excutive touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the game today.
Speaker 4: We had three, he had four, three or four Avenue yeah, four?
Speaker 4: Like what are we doing? He's coming out of the.
Speaker 1: Backfield, he's running off tackle, he's catching sweets. He lined
Speaker 1: up at receiver, he's lined up in the slot. He
Speaker 1: doing something everything. And then we talk about who's the
Speaker 1: best running back in the game. And this is what
Speaker 1: I do. When I think about the best at a position.
Speaker 1: I think about all thirty two teams. Now, I think
Speaker 1: about players that you can you can take. Let's say
Speaker 1: you're not you take Christian McCaffrey off off the fortninees offense.
Speaker 1: How many running backs in the NFL can go into
Speaker 1: the offense and do the same thing he's doing right now?
Speaker 4: Probably him, thank you.
Speaker 1: And when I thought about it, and I broke it
Speaker 1: down and thought about it based on what he's able
Speaker 1: to do. As far as being a Swiss army knife,
Speaker 1: the only thing I can come up the only person
Speaker 1: that can come up name I can come up with
Speaker 1: was album Kamara similar, you know, sty wise, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, different, different than their own right, but similar.
Speaker 4: But Christian McCaffrey is the best running back in the
Speaker 4: game right now. He just is. It is.
Speaker 1: He can do so many different things. He can do
Speaker 1: so many different things and do them well. And that's
Speaker 1: the kind of player when it's time to get paid.
Speaker 1: Let's say, if he had already got paid, that's the
Speaker 1: kind of player that wouldn't have a problem getting his
Speaker 1: money as a running back because he does every goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they've lost the
Speaker 2: regular season game since he's been there. I think there
Speaker 2: were a five hundred ball club when they traded for him,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they've lost the regular season game.
Speaker 3: But he's been outstanding.
Speaker 2: And if he were to win the MVP, he'd be
Speaker 2: the first running back to win the award since Adrian
Speaker 2: Peterson won it in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: Where Adrian Peterson was special man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Oh have mercy.
Speaker 3: He all got edes.
Speaker 2: Record twenty ninety seven rush yards that year. He's single
Speaker 2: handedly because Christan Ponder was his quarterback and guy was
Speaker 2: in the league. But Adrian Peterson single handedly put that
Speaker 2: team on his back and ran them into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yep, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So you believe Christian mccaffe should be in the MVP discussion, Yeah.
Speaker 4: He should be in. He should be in the MVP discussion.
Speaker 1: But as you know, when it comes to MVP being
Speaker 1: the most Valuable Player, it will always go to a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It will always go to a quarterback unless you are just.
Speaker 4: Imacedly special what do.
Speaker 1: What he's doing is great, what he's doing is great,
Speaker 1: But at some point you know your Patrick Mahome is
Speaker 1: gonna come through and just us. And you know, even
Speaker 1: though they Josh shipped up, Josh has a chance to
Speaker 1: win it. He just got to be consistent. If he
Speaker 1: if he do what he did today and continue to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: Man she.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been following, but the Rams
Speaker 3: have a guy.
Speaker 4: Goddamn hooker hooker.
Speaker 2: If duke in on these folks in the NFL, he
Speaker 2: has more yards than all four first round receivers combine.
Speaker 2: He has thirty nine catches, which is first in the NFL,
Speaker 2: five hundred and one receiving yards, which is first in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he just scored his first touchdown. So
Speaker 2: his five hundred and one yards beat an Kwan Rucker
Speaker 2: four sixty three through for his first four games, his
Speaker 2: thirty nine catches breaks and kwan'svoting thirty catches also, and
Speaker 2: he's doing it.
Speaker 3: He was the twentieth receiver drafted. Yeah. No, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying the twentieth player.
Speaker 2: I'm saying he's the twentieth receiver that was taken. And
Speaker 2: he's doing it all for a grand toll of eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: And can I tell you something real quick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is this is this is the testament
Speaker 1: of what I've always been saying about using the players
Speaker 1: at your disposal. That's exactly what McVeigh is doing. You
Speaker 1: have a guy that's a rookie coming out of college
Speaker 1: that is breaking all kinds of records, and in your scheme,
Speaker 1: you have the perfect scheme for him where you're getting
Speaker 1: the most value out of him. He's doing, he's doing,
Speaker 1: he's doing doing unbelievable things. But look what happens, Look
Speaker 1: what happens. You see how easy it is. This is
Speaker 1: funny that the Rams have figured it out. But you
Speaker 1: know what, it's funny that the Rams to figured out.
Speaker 1: You put your players in position to make plays, and
Speaker 1: what do they do? Every team should be able to
Speaker 1: take whatever philosophy they're doing over there with the.
Speaker 4: Rams, because Cooper Cup did it when he had the
Speaker 4: triple crown. Then other year.
Speaker 1: Now you get someone who was the twentieth picked receiver
Speaker 1: out of all the receivers when none of them are
Speaker 1: playing the way he is.
Speaker 4: But why is that? Because why is that? Oh, you
Speaker 4: got a factor this?
Speaker 2: Then also he's getting the ref that Cooper Cup would
Speaker 2: have gotten. Do you think he could have putting up
Speaker 2: these numbers with Cup in the lineup because all those
Speaker 2: targets would have been going the Cup.
Speaker 1: So now that's letting you know though, that's letting you
Speaker 1: know that it's plug in, plug out, plug in and
Speaker 1: plug out. Antonio Brown is going, okay, be plugging in
Speaker 1: George Pickings's Deontey Johnson. The product, the production should still
Speaker 1: be the same if you know how to use the
Speaker 1: players the right thing.
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe.
Speaker 2: I don't believe if you had another quarterback you would
Speaker 2: get this kind of production because Antonio Brown production a
Speaker 2: lot of it with dedicated on who big Ben.
Speaker 3: Big Ben is going to the Hall of Fame. Now,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't put Aby.
Speaker 2: Was not gonna be getting one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: catchup with no with no Picket, with no Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna be having those fifteen to stop it shoping.
Speaker 1: Man a man a b man Aby could the mother
Speaker 1: Teresa could be at quarterback and Aby can go fourteen hundred.
Speaker 4: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't just just your average receiver. Now,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: But look, the thing is is that the great It
Speaker 2: makes it easier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see what I'm saying. It makes it easier.
Speaker 1: But then you when you when you're when you're a
Speaker 1: special talent, when it's not easy, you can still make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes way up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Look look at I mean Jerry, Jerry goes from Joe
Speaker 2: Montanna to Steve Young two first ballot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean me. Now, when I look at A. D.
Speaker 2: Hopkins and I look at some of the quarterback I'm
Speaker 2: not D Hopkins made All Pro with these quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: He liked that.
Speaker 4: He liked that his first first is his last name
Speaker 4: is him.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean he was case Keenan was throwing them
Speaker 2: passes and and and.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember the man, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember all the names of the quarterback carousel
Speaker 1: rock passes, and he was getting it done with everybody.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, look, I don't know man if Steele has
Speaker 2: got a tough goal because it looked like Kenny Picky
Speaker 2: got dinged at the end of the boy that the
Speaker 2: third come.
Speaker 1: Back that was a cl Was it the way he
Speaker 1: was he was walking, he was walking so gingerly. It
Speaker 1: wasn't walking like that. He grabbed his knee right away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I'm hoping it's not.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Speaker 2: So also, you know, it's just it's just tough, man,
Speaker 2: because this is a very this is a very physical game.
Speaker 2: These guys are getting they're getting bigger, they're getting faster, faster,
Speaker 2: they're getting stronger, and the collisions are greater, Joe.
Speaker 1: And you know it's not changing the dimensions of the field, Dope,
Speaker 1: the dimensions have not changed one bit. But everyone else
Speaker 1: is getting bigger, faster and stronger. So something gonna have
Speaker 1: to give. I don't care how much you try to
Speaker 1: protect the players. Something gonna have to give.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing, You're playing an inherently dangerous game. I
Speaker 2: don't care how safe you make the car. When you
Speaker 2: increase the speed, there's a greater risk that things going
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big trade. We talked about Dame getting trade
Speaker 2: to the Bucks. The Celtics counter of that move. They
Speaker 2: make up trade trade for Holiday. So now you got Holiday, Brown, Tatum,
Speaker 2: Perzinger's Al Horford and then now buck starting five is Dame, Beasley,
Speaker 2: Chris Middleton, Giannis and Lopez.
Speaker 4: Still who you like?
Speaker 3: Who are you with? Oh? Are you still with your No?
Speaker 1: Because I had people making fun of me obviously, just
Speaker 1: just just for context, being that I am a fan
Speaker 1: of the Heat.
Speaker 4: I purpose he put the heat first.
Speaker 1: But let me get into into my basketball turns and
Speaker 1: basketball knowledge and and and what I know of the game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Obviously the Bucks are the best team in
Speaker 1: the ease. The Celtics, Oh yeah, most definitely, And they
Speaker 1: have it. They have they have a great squad. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they top heavy with just just just the top two.
Speaker 1: They top heavy with Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum. I mean,
Speaker 1: when it comes down the stretch you need and then
Speaker 1: you need a goddamn shot. There's the only two you
Speaker 1: can actually go to. You don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 1: get from the rest of it, from the rest of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah yeah, jewish nice, Yeah, jewish nice.
Speaker 3: The only thing.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'm gonna say about the Celtics they
Speaker 2: did give up some of their size with Robert Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so they playing small now, which you're playing small?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess you know, because who My question
Speaker 2: is who you're gonna put on. You're gonna put Jingles
Speaker 2: on and you're gonna put a Horford on him.
Speaker 1: It's gonna stay healthy? How about that? Is it gonna
Speaker 1: be healthy? Which porzingis? Are you gonna get weekend? Night
Speaker 1: in and night out?
Speaker 2: Because the problem that you have is that you can't
Speaker 2: build a wall to try to keep Jannis out in
Speaker 2: the lane.
Speaker 4: Down because you got dag He hitting you from anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And there's still a big team because you got Yannis,
Speaker 2: you got low Pazz, you got Porters, so you still
Speaker 2: go sixteen or above.
Speaker 4: Got middle seven six eight, yeah, so wait for Middleton
Speaker 4: six eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Middleton's a big dude six seven, six eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, Holiday like six five, I dog was Holiday.
Speaker 1: No, he can't not Holiday. Ain't that damn tall? Now
Speaker 1: what you think he might be six three? You look
Speaker 1: about six three on TV. I've never seen him in person.
Speaker 3: Holiday six five, Holiday six five.
Speaker 1: So that means everybody else, everybody else is that much
Speaker 1: toller than him.
Speaker 4: Where they have about sixty three or six two.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, them guys are joy No, I mean guy
Speaker 2: that you think. Oh man, no, no, they're not Militant's
Speaker 2: got to be at least six to seven.
Speaker 3: He's six seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you, yeah, yeah, I knew, I knew.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: So you got at six eleven, you got low pens
Speaker 2: and seven foot you got pop quarters at six ten
Speaker 2: and a half. They got a big team. So the
Speaker 2: question is it's gonna be a great It's gonna be
Speaker 2: a tremendous matchup. James Harden is unhealthy because and now
Speaker 2: you still got who you're gonna put on a Joel
Speaker 2: Ebid If you're the Celtics.
Speaker 4: Ingis you ain't got no choice.
Speaker 3: At seven three, one hundred and seventeen pounds.
Speaker 1: You have no choice because you have no sides anybody.
Speaker 1: There's nobody, there's nobody else you can put on them.
Speaker 1: You ain't got no dream, You ain't got no Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: That got that dog and him they that can just
Speaker 1: fighting and and and and crawl and scratch and you
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. That's that's gonna
Speaker 1: get it out the mud.
Speaker 4: You don't have that.
Speaker 1: So you got to put size on him, even though
Speaker 1: even though he lighting ass, you ain't got no choice.
Speaker 2: I mean, porzingis first of all, porzingis that man so skinny.
Speaker 2: He could look at look through a keyhole with both eyes.
Speaker 2: You don't normally you look through the keyhole. You got
Speaker 2: clothed with ther eyes on.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 2: That's how skinny that man is. Yeah, right, Look it's
Speaker 2: gonna Miami. Miami is gonna rule this because what they
Speaker 2: could have done is controlled their own destiny because not
Speaker 2: only did you let huh Milwaukee get strong, you let
Speaker 2: you let the p Celtics get strong. Also because now
Speaker 2: they gotta they got guys. They got three four guys
Speaker 2: that can go get a bucket in a crunch situation.
Speaker 2: You got j T, you got JB, and you got
Speaker 2: Holiday that can go get a bucket. Pazingers can scratch
Speaker 2: the floor knocked down a three. So now you're gonna
Speaker 2: open up lanes so those guys can get to the
Speaker 2: rack on you all three of those guys can put
Speaker 2: the ball on the floor. Holiday over the last three
Speaker 2: seasons is almost forty from the three in the regular season.
Speaker 3: Man, this we are.
Speaker 4: We're behind, We behind eight ball, We behind the ball.
Speaker 1: But what we do do is we play team basketball
Speaker 1: extremely extremely extremely well with no super super super duperstar.
Speaker 1: We play together as a unit extremely well. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough to beat the Bucks,
Speaker 1: and it gouna be goddamn tough to beat the Celtics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gonna be very very very tough, very tough.
Speaker 2: So tomorrow night the Giants take on Seattle.
Speaker 4: Gino Smith, let's go, baby.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that game.
Speaker 2: DK Walker the third, Kenneth Walker the third, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna see I don't think Sakwan is gonna play.
Speaker 3: So again, the ball is in Daniel Jones's hand.
Speaker 1: Have to which you know what you're gonna get, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna you get what we're gonna get it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get another example on why you should have paid
Speaker 1: your running back. And I have nothing against Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: I mean just like we listen, everybody talks about the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and seeing it is what it is, and this
Speaker 1: is what you get based on the situations that they've
Speaker 1: been put in before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we gonna get?
Speaker 1: And you're playing a great Seahawks defense. You're playing a
Speaker 1: great Seahawks defense. Man, I got I Could you want
Speaker 1: me tell you the score line? I can tell the
Speaker 1: score line right now. Twenty seven to twelve Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty seven to twelve Seahawks. And I'm telling you
Speaker 4: right now. You heard it here first.
Speaker 1: So if you're gambling, man, you might want to listen
Speaker 1: to me. Throw something on the floor for me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick it up.
Speaker 3: Don't listen to that man. The man told you you
Speaker 3: don't gamble.
Speaker 2: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for tuning in tonight. Cap
Speaker 2: I am shuning sharp your favorite ug. He's your favorite
Speaker 2: number eighty five Chad O Chosenko Johnson. We'll see you
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, immediately after tomorrow night's ball game.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, call me if you need me.