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Speaker 1: we have numbering nearly four hundred. Breaking news, the Jets

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Speaker 1: are hiring former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett as their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. A source told Adam Schefter, Well, the former

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Speaker 1: Broncos coach who did not do well, didn't last the season.

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Speaker 1: He was a quarterbacks coach in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: We thought that maybe that that was going to be

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Speaker 1: the pathway for Rogers to go to Denver. Never happened,

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Speaker 1: And now Aaron Rodgers might be on the move. Could

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Speaker 1: he reunite with Nathaniel Hackett with the Jets. That that's

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Speaker 1: what will make this interesting. If Jets fans feel like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we can get Aaron Rodgers, we'll take Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 1: And you know there's certain coaches who aren't head coaches,

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Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett was not ready to be a head coach.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he can't be a great offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: You do have a good running back, a very good

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Speaker 1: wide receiver with the Jets, and you know you have

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Speaker 1: some building blocks there. The question is, how would Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers do with the Jets with the New York media?

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Speaker 1: Is that something he would be even interested in? But

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett is going to be the offensive coordinator there, Yes, Polly.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating because, like instantaneously, the coverage on social media

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Speaker 1: is that Rogers question mark. And then if you're a

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Speaker 1: Packer fan, you're thinking, I've seen this one before. I've

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Speaker 1: seen our quarterback leave for a younger quarterback. And it

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Speaker 1: can't play out that far goes to the Jets. It

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Speaker 1: can't play out that Rogers goes to the Jets. You

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Speaker 1: have to get a quarterback, and this is a franchise

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Speaker 1: that hasn't had a franchise quarterback in fifty years or

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Speaker 1: longer with Joe Naiman. I mean, they've had some quality

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks there, but you want to get somebody who you

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Speaker 1: don't worry about from week to week. Wait, is he

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Speaker 1: active not active? Is he playing? Not playing? You have

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Speaker 1: a chance, and you have this young nucleus. Do you

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Speaker 1: take a big swing for Aaron Rodgers Derek Carr? Would

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Speaker 1: he be the fallback plan here? That'd be an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: But just to find a quarterback that you can count

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Speaker 1: on every single week he's going to be out there.

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Speaker 1: They'll be highs and lows. You weren't sure who the

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Speaker 1: quarterback was going to be week to week and now,

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Speaker 1: and then then you had Zach Wilson say I'm going

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Speaker 1: to make it miserable for the quarterback who comes in

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Speaker 1: during practice. I'm thinking you want to make it miserable

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Speaker 1: for the defense that you're going against, not the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: as if he was going to put up he's going

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Speaker 1: to put on a show in practice. Whoever that quarterback sage.

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Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers comes in and he's like, well, I

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Speaker 1: hope Zach takes it easy on me in practice here,

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Speaker 1: don't say it, Just do it. Today's athlete man that

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Speaker 1: they love to say it, Just do it, bringing back

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Speaker 1: the Nike slogan, just do it. Yeah, Point Jets had

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth pick of round one. Would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Would I take I would rather what's Derek Carr going

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Speaker 1: to cost me per year? Yeah? Because he's a free agent.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to trade for him. Doing a guy

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Speaker 1: don't know how much bargaining power he has. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: be curious about that. You know what Rodgers is gonna come.

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Speaker 1: But would I take Aaron Rodgers for the thirteenth pick overall? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And he also looked at that division and probably thought,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we can beat up on that division. Yeah, Mard, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and I think you just have the Bills. I mean,

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Speaker 1: then you have the Dolphins. I mean, who's quarterbacking the Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: Even with TWA, there's still that's a formidable team right there,

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll get a medical opinion here of Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes with the high ankle spring and the person we're

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Speaker 1: bringing in works for a football night in America. Mike

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Speaker 1: Ryan is a sports medicine analyst. He was on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: He was there and a long time trainer and he saw,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes said, the ankle feels pretty good. It's doing good,

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Speaker 1: But it's feeling good so far. Yeah, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: think that's why the betting line is fluctuated so much,

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Speaker 1: and probably changed yesterday when we saw a little bit

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Speaker 1: have said to Mahomes, why don't you just limp a

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Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, thank you. Tod all right. Poll question

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Speaker 1: for the final hour is what see O'Connor well Dan

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Speaker 1: our two? We had who wins MVP this season? Right now,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has sixty percent of the vote. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: jumped to one point five. Okay, yeah, yeah, well but

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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at what happens with Diggs

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Speaker 1: doesn't make it better. Yes, do I want him a

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Speaker 1: just wanted him to stay professional, and he's been one

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Speaker 1: Great athletes have done this before. You get upset in

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Speaker 1: the moment. Absolutely, do you regret it? Most do? And

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Speaker 1: great moment. All Right, we'll get some phone calls here

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Speaker 1: poll question an hour three seaton? I think we go

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Speaker 1: with if you received if you accidentally received an extra

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Speaker 1: paycheck like Brian Kelly at lsue of a million dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And actually Toudson over some wording on this earlier that

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Speaker 1: I've been underpaid so long. It's time I got mine first.

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Speaker 1: see it, and I think that's the important part of

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00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: what you really work on during the week before you

426
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Speaker 1: get the Sunday. Worst injury ever, So probably the most graphic,

427
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Speaker 1: one of probably the most interesting I've seen a lot

428
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Speaker 1: of them. Is remember Chris Hanson, our punter in Jacksonville,

429
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Speaker 1: put an axe into the front of his shin in

430
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Speaker 1: the lock room we had Jack Delwary had the big

431
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: log and said keep chopping, and guys are whacking it. Well,

432
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Speaker 1: one time we miss the log and hit his shan.

433
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: It came in and his shin was wide open. Oh god,

434
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: that was a memorable injury that it's kind of hard

435
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: to forget. But he's a punter and you could easily

436
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Speaker 1: replace him. Yeah. Do you stitch him up? Yoh yeah, yeah,

437
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: but he cut through a lot of the ligaments and

438
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the ten vessels. Yeah, it was. It

439
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: was ugly miss year, but he came back and played

440
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: probably four or five more years. Again, it was his

441
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: plant leg, which is a little bit easy to deal with,

442
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Speaker 1: but a tough guy and not your average punter, if

443
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Speaker 1: you will. Did you get to keep the axe? No, No,

444
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: they took the axe away. And that that log in

445
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: the locker room was gone about twenty minutes later. Can

446
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Speaker 1: a trainer pull a player, Yes, absolutely, you had the

447
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Speaker 1: authority to say this guy should come out, Yes, this

448
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: guy shouldn't go back in, because the reality again is

449
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: as an apthletic trainer, you spend more time with that player,

450
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Speaker 1: especially if they're an injured player, than anyone else in

451
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Speaker 1: the building. So you know them, you know the personalities,

452
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: you know what they can do. You're you kind of

453
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: watch the game very differently compared to the typical fan.

454
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: You see how guys move, you see how they hit.

455
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: You're always looking for those those risk factors if you will.

456
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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you say he has to be out,

457
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: you're going to get a fight from the player. You

458
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Speaker 1: can make it a fight from the coach. But ultimately,

459
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: concussions are a great example. You get players that have

460
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Speaker 1: an injury, they have something like that, a concussion, they're

461
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Speaker 1: not thinking straight. So if they may say I can go,

462
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: but you have to you have to jump on that

463
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: hand grenade many times for the players, and ultimately, nine

464
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Speaker 1: times out of ten that player will come back later

465
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Speaker 1: on and say thank you. But in the heat of

466
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Speaker 1: the game, there's no such nice verbal language to you

467
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Speaker 1: in a lot of times, what role would you have

468
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Speaker 1: played with Tua when he was suffering the concussion or

469
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Speaker 1: he had the moment where his back went out, like

470
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Speaker 1: what you know when you see that happening? What role

471
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Speaker 1: does the head trainer have a lot of it? Again?

472
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Speaker 1: You know, the players, you have to sometimes you have

473
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Speaker 1: to sprinkle common sense and then you say, hey, look

474
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Speaker 1: what you saw. There are many times a player has

475
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Speaker 1: passed a concussion exam and I'd have to lie to

476
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Speaker 1: the coach and say, look at he's not ready as

477
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Speaker 1: balances off, something's not there. And my line used to

478
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: use the players is when they're all fired up there

479
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: and say, hey, listen, three years from now, I want

480
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: to make sure you remember the names of your kids.

481
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: And that's a good way for the player to come.

482
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Speaker 1: You would lie to the coach. You would lie to

483
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Speaker 1: the coach to say, you know, he's a little unstable there.

484
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: You were trying to protect the player from going to

485
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Speaker 1: protect the player exactly, you have to. Sometimes you have

486
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Speaker 1: to protect the player for what they have and what

487
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: they can do, because they're gonna want to get in

488
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Speaker 1: the field. But the reality is should they be on

489
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Speaker 1: the field. That's that's the ultimate question. But you have

490
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Speaker 1: to protect the players. You have to keep the players

491
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Speaker 1: safe in a very violent game. Whenever I think of

492
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Speaker 1: that high ankle sprain, always think Isaiah Thomas against the

493
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: Lakers when he had that unbelievable game and he was

494
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: hobbling around. But that's in the moment that somehow your body.

495
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Speaker 1: What did your body do to protect itself when you

496
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: suffer these injuries, Well, endorphins start ripping through your body

497
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: and it gets your mind all kind of geeked up,

498
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: so you kind of focus on the task at hand.

499
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Speaker 1: You kind of downplay at the old mindset on was

500
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Speaker 1: not that bad. You keep these positive affirmations that these

501
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: players use all the time to say I'm fine, I'm fine,

502
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm fine. And you get the moment, You get the crowd,

503
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: you get your teammates, you got the scoreboard, You have

504
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: a lot of motivational factors to get on the field.

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Speaker 1: But in the morning, when you wake up and you

506
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Speaker 1: start doing the rehab and the swelling is set in,

507
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Speaker 1: like a lot of times with a high ankle sprain, Dan,

508
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: you can't truly diagnose it till twelve hours later. Because

509
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: that membrane may feel good at a moment, but then

510
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Speaker 1: the next day when the swelling sets in. So the

511
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Speaker 1: morning after a bad ankle sprain is when you can

512
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Speaker 1: really truly diagnose and say this is a high ankle sprain.

513
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're surprised for the better. Most times you're surprised

514
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: for the worst because it comes back worse in the

515
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Speaker 1: morning than when they left the stadium the night before.

516
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Speaker 1: Could you give me a concussion test, I could like

517
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Speaker 1: a verbal verbal? A great one is that like eye testing,

518
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Speaker 1: because putting your fingers out in front of you and

519
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: keep your head stale and look focus on one figure,

520
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: then focus on the other, and go back and forth

521
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: and really focus on that. It's a great way where

522
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: your eyes have to converge on an object at different

523
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: distances out of you. And if you start doing that,

524
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: if your symptoms are coming around concussion wise from a

525
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: visual issue, which is very common for football players, suddenly

526
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: as you do that, after thirty seconds to a minute,

527
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: your concussion symptoms will come back. It's a very good way.

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Speaker 1: As you're watching the eyes and the eyes moving smoothly

529
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: figured or finger where they start jumping. Sometimes the eyes

530
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: are really the key to show of something behind behind

531
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Speaker 1: the forehead is not working properly. What would you do verbally?

532
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Speaker 1: Right as soon as they got concussion you get into silent.

533
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Speaker 1: I would just give them three random words apple, tree, bicycle.

534
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Speaker 1: Remember those words. Then we go through the exams, they

535
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Speaker 1: go into the blue tent, they talk to the neurologists,

536
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: they go through all this stuff, and then they come

537
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: back to and say, Hey, what would those three words

538
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I gave you? And they're like, what words? So now

539
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: you're doing dan. You're testing the memory after they got concussed,

540
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: which is very different. And then you'd ask a question

541
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: like hey would you have for breakfast? What was the

542
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: score last week? And who do we play two weeks ago?

543
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: So now you're having them start to look at short

544
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: term memories sense the concussion, what I did three or

545
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: four hours for the game two or three weeks earlier.

546
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: So you start testing their ability to memorize or no

547
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: things from different time lapses. It's a real simple way

548
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: of making sure that the brain is working functionally, especially

549
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: for a guy like a skill player woll. If they

550
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: can't remember that, how can they remember their plays? How

551
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: can they track a ball you know, coming through the

552
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: sky at forty five miles an hour. So there's a

553
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of things you can test on the sideline to

554
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: make sure can they go on the field and do

555
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: their job? Because first things first with the player Dan,

556
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: they have to be able to protect themselves regardless of

557
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: their position. Does anybody remember all three words there? Yes,

558
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: the one of the ones. No, I'm I'm asking my

559
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: guys because I'm going you know, Um, I remembered Apple,

560
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Fritzie Tree was involved, Okay, involved Apple Tree, and then

561
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Third one bicycle we did? Yeah, all right,

562
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: we're not collectsion program. Yeah, yeah, we get to go

563
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: back in great stuff. Mike, thank you for sharing. We

564
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it, my pleasure. Thank you. That's Mike Crime, a

565
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: medical analyst for NBC Football Night in America. More than

566
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: thirty years of athletic training experience with the NFL college.

567
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: All right, a couple of phone calls here, Yeah, I

568
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: was wondered about that. I keep seeing Isaiah Thomas in

569
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: my mind where he gets hurt and he just crushes

570
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers on that gimpie ankle high ankle sprain. There.

571
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Let's see Tom and Maryland. Hi, Tom, went's on your

572
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: mind today, Hey Dan sixty two and thrawl in two

573
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds. A long time listener him in

574
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: human resources in talent acquisition recruiting for a major tech

575
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: company in Silicombe Valley a couple of years ago, and

576
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: had a new hire call me. We gave her a

577
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: little twenty five hundred dollars bump just to help her move.

578
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: She was renting a location and she called me and said, Hey, Tom,

579
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: I got a problem with my bumps. I'm sorry, what

580
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: can I do for you as well? I got a

581
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: note from my bank last night that I got a

582
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: direct deposit of a quarter of a million dollars in

583
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: my bank account last night. The funny part was it

584
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: took me a week to find someone in payroll to

585
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: take responsibility to call it back. So when he finally

586
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: called me back to get her information, I thought I'd

587
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: get a little either, and I told him that her

588
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: number had been disconnection. I think she moved. Oh boy, well,

589
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: thank you Tom. Austin in California, Hi Austin again. I

590
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: ran an ultra premium winery in Napa Valley and a

591
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: wine collector visited me for a VIP lunch winery tour

592
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: full red carpet treatment, and he was a partner and

593
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: an investment firm who, unbeknownst to me, had been fired

594
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: the week before, and I wanted on one final last

595
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: joy ride on in company credit card. Younger mistresses plural

596
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: and I was really excited. It was my largest sale ever,

597
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: was one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I needed a

598
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars commission off it, and I used that

599
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: money to buy my wife's engagement ring. A year goes by.

600
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I had no idea about any of this, and the

601
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: divorced wife, American Express and the r IRS came for

602
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: the money, and a year later I had to pay

603
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: back all the money. Luckily loss allowed me to pay

604
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: the twelve grand back in quarterly increments over twelve months.

605
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: That was all too an ego hit because it was

606
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: my biggest sale ever and certainly hit the pocketbook. Yeah,

607
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: why would this gentleman have to pay? He was a

608
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: victim of the scam. He didn't participate, I'll get it,

609
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah no he well me as the salesperson, it was

610
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: my commission and the IRS AMX wanted the money back

611
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: because it was good wine was actually never delivered. It

612
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: was in the wine industry, you don't shift when it's

613
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: hot out, so we were shipping in the autumn time.

614
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: He ended up pushing it back and we ended up

615
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: having to shifted a little later, and the wine was

616
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: ultimately sent and they wanted their money back, so we

617
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: lost the wine and one hundred fifty thousand dollars sale.

618
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: Spottle of wine you ever had. It's priced an issue

619
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: or not? Uh? No, no issue. Yeah, I'd say Paulita

620
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Walker from Napa Valley. It's the ultra premium small winery.

621
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Thomas Rivers Brown mixed the wine. The wine japply incredible.

622
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Also of nineteen eighty two anything from Bourdeaux, It's gonna

623
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: be the best wine I've ever had. I've also called

624
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: him before and offered to send you some wine, and

625
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I kind of I walked at that and didn't send

626
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: it because I didn't have any wine at the time

627
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: because we saw it quickly. But if you put me

628
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: on hold, I will send you some wine. If you

629
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: guys give me a shipping address where somebody can signed

630
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: for it. And sorry about that last hiccup. Absolutely we'll

631
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: put you on hold. Thank you. Austin sure, somebody say

632
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: something about wine. Yeah, I'm good with that. I want

633
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: to go to Bourdeaux and pick grapes. I'd like to

634
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: wait what I started picturing you walk into the field pick. No,

635
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: but I want to do it, you know, collectively, like

636
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: they it's time to pick the grapes, and then you

637
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: go out and people volunteer and then you gather them.

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Speaker 1: You're going to work a shift. Yes, I would love

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Speaker 1: to go pick grapes in in the in France. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's saying it's like a thing for the show away

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Speaker 1: from No. No, like just be and my wife. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'd go there and then you would know that that

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Speaker 1: that year of wine you were picking those grapes. Yes

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Speaker 1: to would you do the squash grapes thing? Don't people

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Speaker 1: like do that? You get in a big barrel and

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Speaker 1: you step on a bunch of grapes. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they do that anymore. You COVID, No, like they has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with COVID. They have machines that do that.

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Speaker 1: There was a time where people are like with their

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Speaker 1: be I think I think you're watching I love Lucy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, I don't think you're crushing grapes. I mean

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Speaker 1: crushing something else. Yeah, yeah, yes, we're damage. Yes, of course.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't want us to go with you on

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Speaker 1: this porteau tour. We could pick some grapes. Oh yes.

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Speaker 1: Can you think of anything more disappointing than you finally

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Speaker 1: get to Bordeaux and we're there? Oh day, you pick

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Speaker 1: a great chair? Yeah yeah, I don't think you would

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Speaker 1: enjoy that. I would like to do that for some reason.

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Speaker 1: And it's a long day or long days, and you

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Speaker 1: don't get paid, you volunteer, I think, and you go

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Speaker 1: in there and you pick the grapes. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: do it. It's on the bucket list. Sounds romantic, Dan,

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Speaker 1: it is you? I love love love love, Yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: I just want to get a video. We get video, right,

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Speaker 1: if you go, I gotta send a crew. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I would take I would take some video and I'd

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Speaker 1: take video. Can we get Josh du Melon baut somehow?

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Speaker 1: Josh du Mel sent me a video last night. And

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Speaker 1: it's not a video that you'd go, oh wow, what

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Speaker 1: did he send you? He's not shirtless, he's in a

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Speaker 1: rest shower. He's not in a shower in Africa. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing with him and his new wife. Nothing with j Lo.

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Speaker 1: In the movie that he's in, he's actually in a

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Speaker 1: restaurant and he pans the restaurant and I think, oh,

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Speaker 1: here's j Low. Here's j Low and it's a chef

676
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Speaker 1: and he's talking about what to cook on the trigger

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Speaker 1: and I went, okay, okay, buzz kill, like okay, great.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping that there would be some eye candy there.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing. I got some chef. I'll you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. We maybe play it during

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Speaker 1: the live looking maybe we'll do that you're watching on peacock.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get his approval, but so one yeah point.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it was nineteen eighty eight NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas injures his ankle and he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was out for sixty eight weeks. Yes, when he heard it.

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Speaker 1: He scores twenty five points in the quarter. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he did what he did, was he took it was

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Speaker 1: his right ankle. He just took off off his left

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Speaker 1: foot and did runners the whole Yeah. He's limping the

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Speaker 1: whole time. And he was unbelievable that that night. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me take a break last calling for

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Speaker 1: phone calls, what we learned, What's in store tomorrow after this?

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Speaker 1: me a hell yeah, I was just mentioning to the

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Speaker 1: Dan ns our good buddy, Josh Dummel is in a

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Speaker 1: movie with j Low and I thought that she had

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Speaker 1: ensured part of her body, her rear end, and then

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Speaker 1: Fritzie did a Google search. She has what's the insurance

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Speaker 1: on her? Run million dollars on her buttocks because she

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time working them out and whatever

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Speaker 1: she's done to have it look the way the way

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Speaker 1: it looks, and you know a number of stories are

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Speaker 1: written about it. It could be a joke. But almost

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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars for insurance on her touch? Okay, but

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Speaker 1: what could happen where she would she would collect the

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Speaker 1: fall off a bicycle that's up that someone pushes you

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Speaker 1: on set, and all of a sudden you scrape up

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Speaker 1: your butt. I don't know who knows. It's not like

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Speaker 1: like Selene Dion ensuring her voice. She couldn't perform anymore.

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Speaker 1: I could. I could almost see that. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure this is a real thing. Yeah. See, I'm reading

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Speaker 1: a story right now of they I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: ten most bizarre insurance policies ever. They have Heidi Klum's

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Speaker 1: legs for two point two million. Interesting, um, how about

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton getting in there? What do you think Dolly

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Speaker 1: Parton has insured. I'll give you guys a guess her voice.

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Speaker 1: Oh close, close is a little bit lower. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: there's two of them. Okay. Each one goes for three

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Speaker 1: hundred a pop. Oh okay, so she has two policies

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Speaker 1: for each she has them divided, yes, okay, yes, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right? Who else? Let's see, there's Jennifer Lopez is

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Speaker 1: on this list, so I don't know, maybe that's David

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Speaker 1: Beckham apparently was insured for one hundred and fifty one

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Speaker 1: million dollars against a career ending injury. Okay, A lot

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Speaker 1: of them too, are like, uh oh, here's a fellow

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Speaker 1: who insured his area one point six mill Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a valuable and an adult actor. Yeah, he's in

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Speaker 1: the industry. Oh yeah, okay, Rod Stewart's voice. You want

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Speaker 1: to know how much that's insured? For? Seven hundred fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a minute? Or yeah, six million? All right.

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Speaker 1: Keith Richards has ensured. Now this is why you know what.

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Speaker 1: Keith Richards is quickly becoming one of my most favorite

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Speaker 1: people to ever live. Okay, he has ensured his middle

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Speaker 1: finger for one point six million dollars. I love that man.

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Speaker 1: That's a fellow who gets it right there now? Is

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Speaker 1: that guitar related or is that just to flip you off?

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the ladder Okay, yes, yes, Hunt, the

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Speaker 1: one insuring his genitalia. His name is Rocky Thrust, so

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Speaker 1: we think it's probably something from the adult into industry.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the real name. You limp to the finish

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, come on, good Thrust. No, no, just

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Speaker 1: give my opinion like I'm supposed to. You know, remember

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Speaker 1: last yesterday where he went to a D plus we

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Speaker 1: still got four minutes we rally. I screwed it up

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Speaker 1: all right, a week and rally. Can you guys can

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Speaker 1: help me pull this? No? No, this is when you

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Speaker 1: get even worse. No, we're not gonna do that, Bob

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Speaker 1: and Montana. Bob, thanks for holding what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Ay DP, I'm going to go off the script a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. I was calling to talk about Andre

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Speaker 1: Giants passing thirty years ago, but I haven't even better

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Speaker 1: story out. Thirty years ago, I got reimbursed five hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars for movie expenses because the lady boss at the

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Speaker 1: about two months later she end up getting fired for that,

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Speaker 1: among some other double dipping out of their expense reports

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Speaker 1: and stuff too. So I feel a little guilty about it.

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Speaker 1: But thirty years later, yeah, yes, I think this caller

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Speaker 1: sounds like Alan Michaels with a head cold. I God,

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Speaker 1: little thrown. She really does. I thought at one time

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Speaker 1: Danny told me I was Al Michaels with who was

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Speaker 1: a smoke ye out. Yes, yes you do, Bob, you

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Speaker 1: sound like a smokier Al Michaels. Yes, Seton, Bob, can

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Speaker 1: you say? And there he goes, please, and there he

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Speaker 1: go thank you, Thank you. Bub. I love that we

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Speaker 1: did that to Al Michaels. And I thought that Seton

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Speaker 1: then there was silence, and then you know, Al goes

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Speaker 1: something about you know, he didn't know he sounded like that.

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Speaker 1: Al hates me now because you made me do that

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Speaker 1: to him. Yes, uh, Art and Arizona High Art, thanks

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Speaker 1: for holding what is on your mind today morning Art?

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Speaker 1: Two things, Dan, Where is Reggie Miller? When are you

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Speaker 1: coming back? Thank you Art? Uh, yeah, we'll have Reggie Uh,

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Speaker 1: usually a little bit later on in the season after football,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we try to be fair to him

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Speaker 1: But when Reggie's ready, then uh, we'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: Always always great to talk to him. This day in

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Speaker 1: sports history, PAULI nineteen ninety seven Super Bowl Halftime Show,

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Speaker 1: You were smoking that night. Thank you Ton from West Virginia.

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