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Speaker 2: Sam. Sometimes there are things that just seems so obvious,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't take care of her, so simple. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The truth is that my sister is below average intelligence,

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Speaker 1: nowhere close to one ten or even one hundred. Well

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Speaker 1: It's not the brightest and has to do simpler work

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Speaker 1: The company responded to the long letter of their own,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I don't like stamps.

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Speaker 1: I don't like instructions. Well, and neither did the sister

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Speaker 1: I was often told everything younger sister did was on

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Speaker 1: In recent years, it's becoming glaringly obvious. My parents expect

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Speaker 1: because she has special needs.

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Speaker 2: How do the parents go from no acknowledgment to like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Privilege that said younger sister deserves to share my salary

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Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous and like one hundred percent paying for

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Speaker 1: My family tried to commit me to a mental hospital,

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Speaker 3: My wife's money.

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Speaker 2: Okayop, you know that would be a list of things

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Speaker 2: flag in that you know. Yeah, controversial, a very controversial opinion.

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Speaker 2: file for divorce for them or free Brittany. There we go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Boo that we do that, we do her new boo,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be in that store. You don't

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Speaker 1: That's right, Give me a refund store, the meth store.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just terrible decision.

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Speaker 1: They are delusional, they are mind you. Both my parents

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Speaker 2: How is it a secret if I'm the one being a.

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Speaker 1: The reason these messages were so odd is that my

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the wife, and no shout out for

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Speaker 2: That's a problem if that's what they're doing for entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just or just like, oh pee, I feel

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Speaker 1: You don't need to go home and help Clahoma anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's FaceTime this one out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so fast forward to the actual family visits. Woke

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Speaker 2: Okay, So basically he literally just like zoned out and

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Speaker 2: And e R it's an emergency. He has highway hypnosis.

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Speaker 1: I'm just imagine like he's like like listening to Harry

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Speaker 1: I literally teleported on the plane like I put it in,

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Speaker 2: Oh. You use it as like a like an ambient.

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Speaker 1: And so they say they should They say, op, he

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Speaker 2: You know, why make it an inconvenience on them to

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Speaker 1: Also, this is ridiculous, Like man Man's listening to Harry

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Speaker 1: This is this is this is I guess some Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Spoiler, it was my mom's cat knocking down a folder

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Speaker 1: up the papers, something catches my eye. My name on

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Speaker 1: What power of attorney going to my mother upon involuntary commitment?

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Speaker 3: Alimony to be paid to my soon to be.

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Speaker 1: Power of attorney for the remainder of my involuntary commitment.

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Speaker 2: The level of insanity they are going through to like

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Speaker 3: It that but lock key, low key, low key low key.

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Speaker 1: This is like a smart plan honestly, Like you're right

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Speaker 2: If wow, truly literally you've devised this whole plan to

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Speaker 1: I just like use that use that creativity to to

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Speaker 2: Nail, sell some dog biscuits or something on not this man,

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Speaker 1: And the thing is like they're living off their their

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Speaker 3: So it's like now they're really trying to live off.

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely worst. This is this is evil genius parent,

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Speaker 1: In fact, my blood ran cold of all the ways

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Speaker 2: I like the good old fashioned way blackmail.

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Speaker 1: I called my wife, packed my bags and left without

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Speaker 1: I think narks are like narcissists. Yeah yeah, Two, this

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Speaker 1: have gone no contact a long time ago. But narcissistic

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Speaker 1: I'm applying for a new social security name. Oh my god. Three,

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Speaker 1: I'm applying for a new social Security number and changing

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Speaker 1: My social security number has never worked properly, so it

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Speaker 2: They hit his own social security from him.

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Speaker 1: My god, Oh, my god, dude, this guy needs to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like this is drastic, but like probably needed.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm just like mom, dad, I love you, Like, like,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for notting me, for hiding my social security

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Speaker 2: And just the like dragging him off the toilet my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I need to get committed, putting.

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Speaker 2: Him into a mental hospital for highway hypnosis.

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Speaker 1: And also like I'm wondering maybe they already set something

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: The doctor's in on it too. Oh my gosh, fucked. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Today I affed up by abandoning my toddler.

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Speaker 2: Good they deserve it.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, John, You're gonna be a terrible parent.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I are both thankful that it ended

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Speaker 2: I think you transitioned into Scottish. There. Let's a uh

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Speaker 2: an onion. Layers, layers, olgers are not like kicks.

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Speaker 1: Finally we had enough money and cue the panic. My

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Speaker 1: It takes about one and a half seconds for my

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Speaker 1: Thankfully it wasn't too cold and the kid was still asleep,

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Speaker 1: It's like the Romans, if you had a different baby,

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Speaker 2: It's like, maybe the baby will come back a wilded

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be like like an Olympian. Yeah, like a

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Speaker 2: It's just like ooga booga booga, I run fast, damn

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