WEBVTT - Thunder Making A Run For A Playoff Spot

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<v Speaker 1>Before I start out on the Okay, see thunder, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just get a couple of things off my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>One Number one, if you're watching on YouTube, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up with my lip?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I say this in a way that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make me seem like either negligent or a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>My dog bit me in the mouth. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, it was unprovoked, sort of, she's a rescue made

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<v Speaker 1>me bleed.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Piece of skin on my lip that's still sort of

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<v Speaker 1>halfway still on.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't pull it off or it'll just start bleeding again.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're wondering, I've had multiple people ask me

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with your lip? That's what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with my lip. If you're listening on the podcast, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't need this information, but we're gonna keep it

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<v Speaker 1>where it is. So let's start out with the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>NBA fans this morning woke up to a crazy, crazy, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not Austin Reeves going off for thirty five. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Oklahoma City Thunder, who were down one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety two to the Suns with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left.

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<v Speaker 2>To play in Oka See.

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<v Speaker 1>They go proceed and have an eighteen to two run

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<v Speaker 1>against Phoenix. They walk away with a one twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to one to twenty win over a team that had

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<v Speaker 1>given up sixty nine points nice in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>It was their seventh win in nine games. That includes

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<v Speaker 1>wins over the Nets Warriors and the Jazz twice.

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<v Speaker 2>But that win was significant.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the standings, which I pretty much have

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<v Speaker 1>to do every single day to figure out what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and the freaking OKC Thunder are now in eighth place.

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<v Speaker 1>They are thirty five and thirty six, one game out

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<v Speaker 1>of sixth place. The Oklahoma City Thunder is one game

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<v Speaker 1>out of not being in the play in tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>actually being in the actual playoffs. And guess what, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>This is stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think many people thought this team was gonna pack

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<v Speaker 1>it up at the All Star break. Shut Shay Gilgess,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Down, shut, Josh Giddy down, shot both Jalen Williams down.

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<v Speaker 1>I have loved the Thunder for two years now, and

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<v Speaker 1>even I am like, this is not part of the

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<v Speaker 1>playing guys, Uh, you're supposed to be trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>Scoot Henderson, Victor Wantbiyama, one of the Thompson twins, who

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else? That?

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Miller one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>League past teams. But I did not expect them to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the playoffs. I think though, people are sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>on this ok See Thunder team. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even know who Shay Gojess Alexander was no

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<v Speaker 1>shade to them, but they said, who who is shay

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<v Speaker 1>Gilgess what?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Sga? Is that the same guy? Yes? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the top at one point, top five and scoring

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, just an absolute bucket leading. This team

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<v Speaker 1>has been stolen for Okasee stole him, which we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to in a bit. So let's break down how they

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<v Speaker 1>got here, because it's very clear that they've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people by surprise. You're just waking up to

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<v Speaker 1>the thunder or you're still sleep on the thunder. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get you there because okayc He's a problem. So it

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<v Speaker 1>all begins with one of the most mysterious, secretive, cryptic,

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<v Speaker 1>elusive men on the planet Earth. And I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about worldwide West. I'm talking about Sam Presty right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about some flowing right now, the myth, the man,

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<v Speaker 1>the legend. You don't hear his name much. You don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but behind closed doors people talk about him in whispers.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about him too loud, you might not even

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed into the building. There's some mainstream media talk

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<v Speaker 1>too much about what the Okac thunder do, spilling a

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<v Speaker 1>little too much tea. Now they're blackballed, and most people

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty that are in the know, in awe of

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<v Speaker 1>what he's been able to do in the smallest market

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. So if you don't know about Sam Presty,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been the GM of the franchise since two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven, back when they were actually still in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point, Sam Presty was just twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old, twenty nine years old, wet behind the ears,

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<v Speaker 1>no one expected much.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Young guns that come into the league in this spot.

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<v Speaker 1>He was right after theo Epstein was named GM of

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox at twenty eight. Broad end is this

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<v Speaker 1>new era, smart analytically driven executives later coaches that would

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<v Speaker 1>get their shot way earlier than ever. Right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pioneers in that era. And because of

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<v Speaker 1>his age, and because the SuperSonics were a mess, and

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<v Speaker 1>because the SuperSonics were seen as maybe a team that

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<v Speaker 1>would leave the area, everyone thought Sam Presty doomed to fail.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad scenario, Night night sleep mask for you.

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<v Speaker 2>First shot out of the box, first moves he makes.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets Kevin Durant in the draft and number two

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<v Speaker 1>has not looked back since.

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<v Speaker 2>He then goes on to draft Russell Westbrook, James Harden,

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<v Speaker 2>Serge Ibaka, etc. Etc. Etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Changes the way that the league works. Because he was

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<v Speaker 1>so crafty in how he makes deals, they actually created

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new league protocol to thwart him, you know how,

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<v Speaker 1>like Augusta tigerproofed Augusta and it did not work. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they did with this thing called the Steppian Rule.

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<v Speaker 1>It really should be called the Presti rule. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know why they didn't call it that because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even say his name without you getting into trouble. So

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<v Speaker 1>they had to come up with a new name that

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<v Speaker 1>was really about him, and that keeps teams from trading

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<v Speaker 1>multiple first rounders in consecutive years. So say you have

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<v Speaker 1>only your own first rounders. You can't trade a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and a twenty twenty three first rounder.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom Boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't be left with no first rounders in two consecutive years.

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<v Speaker 1>It also prohibits, which is also very much him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was trading players to get draft picks in like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years from now. Like, you can't, Sam, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that only seven years down the line. Can you get

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<v Speaker 1>a draft pick for You can't trade some random player

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<v Speaker 1>right now for a twenty thirty two first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>This kid's not even in elementary school yet. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to his success, Sam Presty, within five years of

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<v Speaker 1>getting the top gig has the Thunder in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Finals in twenty twelve. Pretty good, pretty impressive, very big

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<v Speaker 1>deal maker. Nobody's had more blockbuster trades than Sam Presty,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody's managed to keep up with the times more either. So.

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<v Speaker 1>The Thunder built around Russell Westbrook Kevin Durant, that hits

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<v Speaker 1>a wall, Kevin leaves, Russell Westbrook starts to stall. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he starts his first real rebuild since the franchise moved

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<v Speaker 1>from Seattle in twenty nineteen. So they had Paul George

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<v Speaker 1>and they had Russell Westbrook, and they moved them both

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<v Speaker 1>for a boat logan of draft picks that is the

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<v Speaker 1>genesis of today's okay see Thunder team. In essence, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Presty did four years ago. He turned Sirgebacca into Shay,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Williams and three future first round picks through three trades.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is as follows, Serge Ibaka for Victor Oladipo

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<v Speaker 1>and Demona Sabonas. First of all, that's a fucking theft.

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<v Speaker 1>No shade to Sergeabacca, but that is theft robbery. Then

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<v Speaker 1>takes Oladipo and Sibonis and flips them almost immediately for

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George, turns Paul George into Shay Gilgess, Alexander Danilo Gallinari,

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<v Speaker 1>and five future first round picks. One of those first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks has already turned into Jalen Williams. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>have three first round picks coming up in the next

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<v Speaker 1>two years. That's how it's done. That is how it's done, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>The team was supposed to be probably a contender either

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<v Speaker 1>next year or the year after. After Chet Holmgren goes

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<v Speaker 1>down with the list Frank injury when he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>in that proem right, You're like, okay, you're over. Chet's done.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another development year. Maybe try to get Victor

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<v Speaker 1>Wombanyama or Scoot Henderson or something. Compete, build on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not a playoff team. But now you got

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<v Speaker 1>three healthy twenty twenty two draft picks that are Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Williams with a knee, Jalen Willams with an e Uzman Jangs,

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<v Speaker 1>all finding a way to play valuable minutes, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, Jalen with a knee, might be the best

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<v Speaker 1>rookie in the league not named Palo Ban Carrol. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in his last ten games, Jalen Williams is averaging twenty

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<v Speaker 1>point four six and five and two steals per game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mind you stole him, stole him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen with and I is averaging seven to five and

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<v Speaker 1>one in his last ten and Uzman Jang is coming

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<v Speaker 1>around as well, eight four and one in his last

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<v Speaker 1>ten games. Quick trip to maschool, let's do that for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, shows that the thunder have three rookies on

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<v Speaker 1>this team contributing thirty five, fifteen and seven. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>mention again, Chet Holmgren sitting on the bench, Liz Frankentry,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the one who was supposed to be bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it home. He hasn't played one NBA minute yet and

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<v Speaker 1>also taking Jumper's pregame he's currently back in the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Most teams would hope that just one rookie can get

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes without destroying the team chemistry and turning the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over a million times and not being in winning

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<v Speaker 1>basketball situations. All three of the rookies averaging anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to twenty seven minutes per game and winning and

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoff hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>This is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is something that should scare everyone who is not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the Thunder. The average age of the

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder is not even twenty four years old. Wow, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one on this roster over the age of twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Dario Sarich, who was let's be honest, came in on

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<v Speaker 1>a salary dump. He was born in ninety four and

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<v Speaker 1>he's three years older than the next oldest player, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Lyndy Walters, who is ancient for this team at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. For this team to be this good, with

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<v Speaker 1>this many players who can contribute on a night to

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<v Speaker 1>night basis with no chet this fast, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it is scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Be afraid. If your favorite team is in the Western Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid. Look at these numbers of the last ten games.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Giddy seventeen nine and eight with a steel per game,

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<v Speaker 1>Shay thirty five five and five with two steals per

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<v Speaker 1>gamee those are the as a laughable stat line.

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<v Speaker 2>Lou Dort fourteen four to two with the steel per game.

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<v Speaker 2>They all are averaging a steel.

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<v Speaker 1>They also, mind, you have deep bench guys like Aaron Wiggins,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Joe trey Mann, Kenrick Williams. Guys that if the

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media doesn't know who Shay is, I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know who Kenrick Williams is, all contributing at

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<v Speaker 1>various times.

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<v Speaker 2>These kids don't even care that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Get DMP coaches decisions, dmpcds. They're like, they will sit

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<v Speaker 1>out three straight games for no reason whatsoever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, get twenty eight minutes and put

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five up on your head.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how ready they are. They stay ready, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they've got this Poku kid who.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about before, Alexi Pokashevsky, who's been on rehab

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<v Speaker 1>in the G League. Be afraid of him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He could be ready by playoff time. He is giving

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<v Speaker 1>buckets up. He is blowing the doors off p.

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<v Speaker 2>In the G League.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick question, if you're a top four seed the West,

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<v Speaker 1>are you afraid because I would?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want any part of the okay Seat Thunder

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs? I would not. I would not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kings and the Thunder would be an amazing match.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see a two A two seven

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<v Speaker 1>Kings Thunder matchup. The Suns obviously don't want any part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Oka Seat Thunder because they were up how

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<v Speaker 1>much with two minutes left to go, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they look up. They're like, this dude's

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<v Speaker 1>has scored twenty straight points on us and we have

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<v Speaker 1>scored zero in the span of three minutes. We looked

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<v Speaker 1>like we had a comfortable lead to all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, uh oh, this is not good. They

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<v Speaker 2>can score fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The runs are largely based off of deflections, steals, block shots.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick little fact.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, okay See is third in the NBA in

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<v Speaker 1>steals per game. What this little ramshackle team third in

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<v Speaker 1>the league in steals per game. Baby team, they are

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. They're growing up right before our eyes. This

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<v Speaker 1>team actually reminds me of the Memphis Grizzlies the year

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<v Speaker 1>that they knocked off the Warriors in the play in

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<v Speaker 1>tournament and then they played the Utah Jazz and they

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Utah Jazz in the first game of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like, oh my god, what is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Brooks just put up I think twenty five in

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<v Speaker 1>that game, and Jaw was looking crazy and Utah looks

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<v Speaker 1>scared in their boots. Utah ends up winning that series

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<v Speaker 1>pretty comfortably. But you think to yourself, oh, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>team's pretty good. This team could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Really really good fast. That's the Okac Thunder right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So will they win it all this year? Of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you add Chet Holmer into this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have two first rounders in the coming draft, one

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<v Speaker 1>of which will surely be a lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick, Sky's the limit. Sky's the limit.

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<v Speaker 1>The thunder I'm calling it now, could be a new

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<v Speaker 1>power in the West before you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder, I thought I would update everyone on this NBA

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<v Speaker 1>reffing situation. We talked about this what last week with

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<v Speaker 1>Fred van Fleet. So you remember Fred van Fleet. He

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<v Speaker 1>lit up Ben Taylor, who had called texts on him

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<v Speaker 1>at grotesque, inappropriate, disproportionate levels. Right, Fred van Fleet said

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor was fucking terrible. I think on most nights, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the three officials, there's gonna be one or

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<v Speaker 1>two they just fucked the game up. That was Ben Taylor, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me how you would really feel, Fred. Predictively things

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of things happened. First, the league, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>find Fred van Fleet. You knew that would happen. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple players that we discussed, like Marcus Smart came out

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<v Speaker 1>and were like, yes, Fred is the man. He is right,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to him. So it got worse it did. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now getting at a boiling point. Mark Dagnio, the OKAC

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<v Speaker 1>thunderhead coach that nobody knows who. Yeah, we did a

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<v Speaker 1>peace on him a couple of weeks ago because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows who he is. He said, I didn't get any

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<v Speaker 1>technicals in my first two years. I'm prioritizing getting my

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<v Speaker 1>point across at the expense of getting a technical, fairness

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<v Speaker 1>and consistency. We need those things from the league and

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<v Speaker 1>from the refs. So I have a theory about Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Dagneol that I'm gonna run by you guys. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>that Mark Dagneol? His name is really Tony from Long Island.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in witness protection program and he's now the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach of the OKC Thunder because he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Laying low and no one knows who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Tony from Long Island's coming out and straight

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<v Speaker 1>up yelling at refs.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see what he said? He said, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking to me, I'm not talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think he is now putting himself squarely on

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<v Speaker 1>the radar of Jimmy Baxter and them boys.

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<v Speaker 2>He is now enemy number Well, they're like, yo, Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that Tony from Long Island? No? No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Mark Dagno. No, you see how he just said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking to me? If you're not talking to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to you. That's Mark Dagnol.

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<v Speaker 1>What a better way to hide in plainsight than to

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<v Speaker 1>become the head coach of the OKAC Thunder Where Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Presty protects all Sam Presty takes players in and rehabs them,

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<v Speaker 1>takes people who are running from the mob and rehabs them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the perfect place to become someone else. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the NBA's only coaching the Witness Protection Program risks

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<v Speaker 1>flowing his cover and becomes a target, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>you fucked up. If you're not talking to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking to you. Turns us back on, points straight

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<v Speaker 1>into his face. Yo, we got a referee problem, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Memo to Adam Silver, you need to fix the ship

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<v Speaker 1>with the refs, and fix it fast, because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have another Scott Foster situation in the playoffs, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have our son Mark Dagnol aka Tony from Lyng

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<v Speaker 1>Island getting put back onto the radar of those he's

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<v Speaker 1>running from.