1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: local station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching app as car. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Boom Up America. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come in to you 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: from sunny southern California, one last time with authority here 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. 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So we had a lot to talk about, 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: and uh, I am going to do something for the 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 3: next two hours which violates what I have done for 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: the last twenty three years, really eighteen years as an 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: afternoon drive host here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, which 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: is I'm going to talk about what I want to 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: talk about, not necessarily what you want to talk about. 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: The rule in sports radio, especially national sports radio, is 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: check your ego, which doesn't really happen with most of 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: us as hosts. Check your but check your ego in 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: terms of topic selection. My topic selection, guys that talk 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: about what they want to talk about fall by the wayside. 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: Guys that talk about what the most people want to 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: talk about. Like we make fun of talking about the 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Cowboys at all times, but when you talk about the Cowboys, 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: more people have an opinion or seem to want to listen. 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: So I'm going to violate that because of announcement that 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: I made after our show two days ago. And we'll 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: get into that in a second. First thing is congratulations 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: to Dan Byer's Seattle Seahawks. What a gain, what a win, 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: What a way to announce your presence nukle Loo style 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: with authority in the NFL on Thursday night football. That 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: was a wild one last night. 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: Yes, never a dull moment. You already said it was 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. Every Seahawks scheme came down 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: to the final second or the last play of the 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: game last night. So the Sam Donald Mike McDonald era 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: no difference. 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: And I love my favorite thing about social media is 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: freezing cold. Takes is pretty good, but when people keep 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: her seats and if you would have looked at halftime 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: or early in the third quarter on Sam Donald, Sam 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: Donald was, oh, what was the quarterback? 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: Nathan? 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: He was basically Nathan Peterman, right, Nathan Peter Like, same 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: old Sam Donald. Sam Donald sucks. I can't believe Seattle 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: did this. This is the real Sam Donald. You had 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: all the memes and then pulling off the mask, you know, 53 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: all those things. And then Sam Donald the competitor wakes 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: up and ends up winning the day a wild one, 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: and I apologize. We're not really going to get into that. 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: We're not gonna get into the Puka nakua. I just 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: think he's too dumb. He doesn't know I'm Jewish. Again, 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: there's plenty of anti anti Semitism up there. I didn't 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: view that as anti Semitism. I view that as somebody 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: doing something which people want. People are looking for the 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: gotcha moment. He's it's not worth it. It's not worth it. 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: So there are other things to get to. Tonight. You 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: have a football game in Norman, Oklahoma, which I am 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: fascinated by and I love again. I would love matter 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: of fact, I'm gonna do it in my final radio 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: show here on Fox Sports Tray, I'm gonna tell you 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: listen to Steven A. Smith talk about the outcome of 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: this football game and saying that, you know, if Alabama 69 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: doesn't win, they should get rid of their coach and 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: he should go to Michigan when you don't know anything 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: about college foot is the worst part of this business. Yesterday, 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I had the day off because I traveled from Green 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: Bay to Las Vegas to recruit in a junior college event, 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: the Tarcanian Classic, which is at the Orleans Arena, and 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: so I had about three hours to myself and I 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: sat down at a at a bar, and I was 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: watching first take and get up and watching first take 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: and then talk about college football. I wanted to stab 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: my eyes out. That's what I wanted to do, stab 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: my eyes out. And so it's part of those emotions 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: that leaving this show behind because I don't think I 82 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: know this is the best show on sports radio because one, 83 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: our personalities all work together too we all actually kind 84 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: of like each other. And three we actually like and 85 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: care on different levels about sports, which is not how 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: it works otherwise. And we're not hot takers. We don't 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: say things that we don't believe and that we haven't 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: thoroughly thought out and have reason behind it. And you're like, wait, wait, 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: this is your last show if you haven't found out 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: Wednesday after the game and we had, I'm gonna just 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: say that's our best win since I've been at Green Bay, 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: and it's our best win, not because I mean, winning 93 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: on the road is more difficult. Winning at the US 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: Virgin in the US Virgin Islands against really talented teams 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: like UMass and Iona was an incredible weightlifted office and 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: we played really, really well. We've done some other impressive things, 97 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: but Santa Barbara is outstanding. They're really good. Being at 98 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: home is important because those are the people that fund 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: your program. Those are the people that want to see 100 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: growth and success, and so beating a top one hundred 101 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: and fifty and really when healthy, they're a top one 102 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: hundred team like Santa Barbara was gigantic. Afterwards, I announced 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: that this would be my last year or this would 104 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: be my last show with Live. Okay, so just to clarify, 105 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm still gonna do a podcast. I'm still gonna do 106 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: my podcast. You know, the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. We 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: will use the All Ball platform, and iHeart has been 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: great and we're going to work together on it and 109 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: there are no negatives there. But some of it is perception, 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: and not that I care what people think, but the 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: people that matter, I want them to know green Bay 112 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: Basketball is incredibly important to me. And you can't say 113 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: something's your dream job and then not be willing to 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: literally and figuratively give you all four it. The reality 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: to it is green Bay Basketball hasn't suffered the last 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: year and a half because I haven't worked hard enough 117 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: at it. I would say there are times in which 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: you guys have picked me up, which has been great, 119 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: and it's been all the other things in my life 120 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: which would suffer. It's just hard when you're trying to 121 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: be a show which is knowledgeable and not say things 122 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: that you don't know to be true. It's one of 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: the things that Jason and I get into all the time. 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Jason's like, well, you never go like all in on 125 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: some things you're kind of wish about, and I'm not. 126 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: I'm The reality is the world is gray more than 127 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: black and white. Even though sports TV, sports radio, political TV. 128 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Once you think it's black and white, it's left and right, 129 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: and it's not. So we'll talk about it some more. 130 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: But I was thinking about this. Sports radio has been 131 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: the theme music to my life. Theme music to my life. 132 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: I was born in Milwaukee, lived there till six moved 133 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: to southern California, and every summer we would return to 134 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: New York City. My dad was in New Yorker, grew 135 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: up in the Bronx, moved out to the island when 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: he was fourteen years old, and he would rent a 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: car and he was like the only human being that 138 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: would like to drive in New York because he was 139 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: in New Yorker. And he would turn on wfa N, 140 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: which had Imus in the morning, and it had Mike 141 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: and the Dog in the afternoon, and he loved it. 142 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: I would listen to Angels Talk after Angels games and 143 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: call in when I was in high school. When I 144 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: was in high school, I started listening to XTRA in 145 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: San Diego AM six ninety and in the afternoon they 146 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: had Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. For the next couple of hours, 147 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: I want to talk sports with you from Poway to 148 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: Escondido all the way up to Temechilla Valley for the 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: next couple of hours. This is your home for sports, 150 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: right that is Lee Hacksaw, Hamilton. And at night. 151 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 5: At night. 152 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: There was a show called The Jim Rome Show, and 153 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: they was wild and they would do drug tests Tokanukua 154 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: for his posts. Continue a post would have gotten a 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: drug test which had a peeing and a cup sound 156 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: in the background. And you know, raiders sucked. Chargers rule 157 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: good night Now was part of the vernacular to anyone 158 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: who watched that show. I remember when Jim Rome got 159 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: picked up nationally and I think Denver was his first affiliate. 160 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: Like this is how I grew up. And so when 161 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: I was in high school, my dad was my AAU coach, 162 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: and he would pick me up from school and we'd 163 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: have to go pick up players for practice because their 164 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 3: parents couldn't do it, and we had to find guys 165 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: where no one else found them because we just didn't 166 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: have enough players living in Orange County to compete on 167 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: a national basis in AU basketball. And I would have 168 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: my homework and he would be listening to either sports 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: Radio XDRA, or he would listen to old cassette tapes 170 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: of old time radio, The Jack Benny Show, Burns and Allen, 171 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: you name it. So when I got to Oklahoma State 172 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: my first year there, we were thirteen and zero. We 173 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: were getting ready to play in Nebraska with Tyron lu 174 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: and Nebraska was a pathetic road team and they asked me. 175 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: Will Hancock, our late sid, came in and asked me 176 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: during shoot round, Hey, everybody wants to talk to you. 177 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: What radio show do you want to do? Jay stud 178 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: Do you know what radio show I want to do? 179 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: Oh? Boy, the Jim Romp Show. 180 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: Correct, Because the year before, when I was sitting out 181 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: at Golden West College, Toby Bailey, who I had grown 182 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 3: up playing against, was his college basketball insider, and I said, 183 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: tell Jim, I want to be his college basketball insider 184 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: and we lost to Nebraska. Coach was so pissed. I 185 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: didn't get to do any of the interview until the 186 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament, and then I told Jim I wanted to 187 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: be his college basketball insider. I was the next year. 188 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: I was the next year. And then Eric Chenowith, who 189 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: I'd grown up with also in Orange County Villa Park 190 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: High School, who also grew up listening to the Jim 191 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: Rome Show, he wanted to be on and we would 192 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: go back and forth in different spots while on Jim 193 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: Roum Show. I've been doing this for a long time 194 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: and this will be an emotional two hours for me. 195 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: I hope a good listen for you. I'm gonna tell 196 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: you how I've made it in this business. And there 197 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: really is only two things you truly truly need, and 198 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: then one other thing that I don't think most of 199 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: you will be able to get. And I'm sorry for that, 200 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: but I'm not sorry because I worked really hard for it. 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: But for the next two hours, we're gonna do. This 202 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: is my radio life. And it started in Orange County 203 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: and it started listening next CRA and started listening to 204 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: and Rome and the other way it part it started 205 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: was in nineteen ninety six through ninety seven. I sat 206 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: out at Golden West College and my high school coach 207 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: my first year was Tom McCluskey. He took the Golden 208 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: West job and so I went there and I red 209 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: shirt essentially practiced with the team. And on weekends, my 210 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: old high school girlfriend lived up at Santa Barbara and 211 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: my brother was uh in San Luis Obispo at cal 212 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: Poly's first job, and so I would go up and 213 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: stop in on the way to San Luis Obispo and 214 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: see his games, usually on a Saturday night and on 215 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: Sunday night, I would drive home and the first show 216 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: at ESPN Radio was a night Sunday night show. It 217 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: was called Game Night. It was called Game Night, and 218 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 3: I think our show is the best now. The best 219 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: show at that time that I remember was game Tony 220 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: Bruno and Chuck Wilson. Tony Bruno and Chuck Wilson, and 221 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: I would drive home on the one oh one on 222 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: a Sunday night and listen to these guys from Bristol, Connecticut, 223 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: and I thought to myself, man, I'd really like to 224 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: do that. Fast forward to two thousand and three and 225 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: I got an opportunity to work at ESPN ESPN Radio. 226 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: My first show for the first three years I was 227 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: there was Game Night. My co host was the most 228 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: prepared man I've ever worked with, ever seen, ever happened 229 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: upon in the history of the medium. His name is 230 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: Chuck Wilson. He joins us now here on the Doug 231 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: Outlet Show on Fox Sports Radio. Chasmo, How you doing. 232 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 6: Doing well, Doug. I'm glad to be able to join 233 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 6: you today. 234 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: Game Night. Way back when what was it like not 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: with me, with Bruno and those guys. What were those 236 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: shows like? 237 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 7: It was amazing. I mean, you're talking about a seven 238 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 7: hour talk show and we do it Saturdays and Sundays, right, 239 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 7: seven hours. Here's the kicker. We didn't take phone calls, 240 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: so you're talking for seven hours. They'd be three in 241 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 7: the booth, be Tony and me, and then we had 242 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 7: kind of a rotating Peter ben Brown was there for 243 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 7: a period of time and they rotated in TV people. 244 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 7: Keith Oberman and Mike Jerico were Saturday and Sunday when 245 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 7: we first started out, but we rotated people for a 246 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 7: long period of time. I ended up working with over 247 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 7: I think over two hundred co hosts at one time 248 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 7: or another. But yeah, I mean, the cool thing about 249 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 7: it was we had access to all of the ESPN talent, 250 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 7: and the name, the good name of ESPN got us 251 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 7: a lot of interviews. On the very first weekend we 252 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 7: broke the story of Danny Tartible to the Yankees through 253 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: Keith Olberman who got a tip on it. And so 254 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 7: here it is this fledgling you know, Weekend Network goes 255 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 7: on the air and immediately breaks uh you know what 256 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 7: was a very national story. 257 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 6: That nice. 258 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 7: So that was pretty cool stuff. But yeah, it was good. 259 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 7: But I got a couple of stories that i'd like 260 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: to tell about you that are off the air actually, 261 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 7: and when we talk about being on the air, because 262 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 7: I really enjoyed working with you, as you know, and 263 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 7: I'll just say to folks, you know, when you're working 264 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 7: with somebody and they know what they're doing, and especially 265 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 7: obviously in hoops and in college. 266 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 6: Football NFL, you know, Doug really knew his stuff. 267 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 7: And what I enjoyed was watching somebody who only had 268 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 7: surface knowledge make the mistake of challenging dog. Okay, now 269 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 7: here's the thing. Doug loves to debate stuff, and he's 270 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 7: very good at it, right, so you'd better bring your 271 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 7: a game, especially if it's in a subject that he 272 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 7: really knows. 273 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 6: Okay, I mean he really knows. 274 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 7: But it would be fun because people just you know, 275 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 7: he'd knock him down the side. 276 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 6: I mean, you saw it. 277 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 7: But I just want to go to two thousand and four, 278 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 7: because we had Doug over the house, all right, and 279 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 7: we had, first of all, we had expanded our driveway, 280 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 7: put in a half court. We have a three point 281 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 7: line of had all the lines on and so forth, 282 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 7: the line based line and so forth. Right, And we've 283 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 7: got three boys, and our middle son is Matt. So 284 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 7: first of all, I'll tell you MAT's fourteen years old, okay, 285 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 7: and he and Doug are playing Madden, right, and my 286 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 7: son is just beating up done. My son is up 287 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 7: thirty points in the fourth quarter. But my son's also 288 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 7: fourteen years old, and he's a huge Michael Vick fan. 289 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: Now you would think, as he jokes about. 290 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 7: It today, you would think that, you know, you might 291 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 7: want to run the ball. You know, you got Michael Vick. 292 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 7: You just no, Matt is going to pass. And Matt 293 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: was stubborn Michael Vick. Well, Doug got me to the 294 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: fourth quarter, came back from thirty points at beat bet, 295 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 7: which was pretty funny at the time. 296 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 6: The other story that's in this, though. 297 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 7: Is that I think everybody knows what an outstanding player 298 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 7: Doug was in high school. Okay, he shared most Outstanding 299 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: Player award in high school for the state of California. 300 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 7: It was one Paul Pierce. Okay, the time's really good. 301 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 7: So when he went to Oklahoma State, and I'll never 302 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 7: understand why coaches tell kids, especially talent people don't shoot them. 303 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 7: You know, we don't want we want you to distribute, 304 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 7: We don't. 305 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 6: Want you to shooting the ball. 306 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 7: Well, Doug went from you know, being somebody who had 307 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 7: the confidence to score and really could shoot two. Frankly, 308 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 7: I think you'd agreed, Doug. 309 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 6: I mean, got to the point where even free throws were. 310 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 7: A challenge, right, Yes, But I want you to tell 311 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 7: you that in two thousand and four, Doug came to 312 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 7: our house play a little basketball out there. They were 313 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 7: shooting threes, right, And I swear to you that because 314 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 7: I confirmed this with Matt today, you know what was 315 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 7: the exact number? Doug Gottlieb made twenty seven straight threes 316 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 7: on an outdoor court. 317 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: That sounds like a windy I'll tell you mine real quick, Chuck, 318 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Before we go, I got two things for you. One, 319 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: you want to talk about a twenty six year old 320 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: you made it moment. It was the twentieth Anniverse, twenty 321 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: fifth anniversary of ESPN, and we did a show from 322 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: the ESPN end Zone in New York City, and it 323 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: was me and Chuck Wilson and we started the show. 324 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: To my left was Ozzie Smith. To his right was 325 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: Richard Petty, the Wizard and the King. And I'm sitting 326 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: there going, what am I doing here? 327 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 5: Right? 328 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: What am what am Wait? So it was and you 329 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: had been doing it forever. Knew everything about everybody. But 330 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: I need I need a thirty second dissertation. Pete Rose 331 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: passed away, right, not so tragically. Not a good person. Sorry, 332 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: that's just the reality to it. Okay, For people who 333 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: believe that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame, 334 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: the officient out of the only person you need to 335 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: listen to is Chuck Wilson. He's the only person I 336 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: know that can quote chapter and verse the Dowd Report 337 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: knows all the truth about what has been investigative Pete Rose. 338 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna ask you, Chuck right now. Should Pete 339 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: Rose be in the Hall of Fame? 340 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 7: Well as as a player's not. But it will happen 341 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 7: because people have, you know, short memories, and you know 342 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: some of the vices have been poffened up over time 343 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 7: and so on. Here's the thing that really bothered me 344 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 7: about Pete Rose. You know, Pete never really came clean. 345 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 7: Peter Rose had a photographic memory, okay, he I mean 346 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 7: he could quote from you know, at bats and games 347 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 7: and exact situations all right. When he writes in his 348 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 7: book that he really can't remember the first time he 349 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 7: plays the bet professional, I can tell you why he 350 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 7: can't remember, because he was a player manager and he 351 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 7: never wanted to admit that he bet on baseball as 352 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 7: a player manager. As a manager. Yeah, he came clean 353 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 7: on that. I am convinced that he didn't want to 354 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 7: say that he bet as a player manager because he 355 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 7: thought it would hurt his chances to get into the Hall. 356 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 7: And an interesting sideline to this, Doug. About two months 357 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 7: ago I met John Dowd for the first time. He 358 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 7: lives out in the Cape Cape Cod, Massachusetts. 359 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 6: And it's a long, kind of a long story, but. 360 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 7: I went to a fundraiser for the Rotary. 361 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: Club and there was a guy that he actually. 362 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 7: Lives next door to John Dowd. 363 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 5: I went out and I met John Dowd. 364 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: John Dowd really did a very honest. 365 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 7: Report on Pete Rose, and for Pete to have ridiculed 366 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: the individuals, you know, the commissioner and John Dowd and 367 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 7: the whole three stooges thing and lied and lied and 368 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 7: lied for years was really really unfortunate. I was always 369 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 7: cast as the bad guy that you know, I'd always 370 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 7: have to be the foil and say that I didn't 371 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 7: believe Pete, because of course I didn't. All the evidence 372 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 7: is just clear that he had met. But you know, 373 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 7: and that really bothered me because I was Pete Rose 374 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 7: growing up. I love the hustle stuff, right, and so 375 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 7: effort attitude are really big to me, and so it 376 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 7: was a big disappointment. But that's the backstory if you 377 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 7: want to put him into the hall because you don't 378 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 7: think gamblings, you know, I mean, everything's you know, we're 379 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 7: putting gambling in different category today. Okay, but just remember 380 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 7: this guy bet on baseball. He did it as a 381 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 7: player manager and you know people said, well you bet 382 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 7: against his own team. Well every time you didn't bet 383 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 7: on your team or you did that maybe as a player, 384 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 7: you're maybe you're putting your closer out there for three 385 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 7: straight days and you really shouldn't have type things. So no, 386 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 7: I would not, But you know that's my feeling. He'll 387 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 7: he'll you know, that's he'll get in because of time 388 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 7: changes things. But I don't believe you should set. 389 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: You taught me so much and you were always so 390 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: graceful with how you taught me, and when when you 391 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: didn't come back, you never took it out on me 392 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: or on our ship. And I just honored to share 393 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: a studio and learn so much from you. I appreciate you. 394 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, and and and I never got to 395 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: the level of preparation that I didn't have the chuck 396 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: wagon ever you set you set up, You set a 397 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: bar for everybody to get to that that none of 398 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: us could really climb. 399 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 7: Well, that's nice to say that. 400 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 6: Let me just say this that uh. 401 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 7: You just you wanted to keep improving. Uh and you 402 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 7: did uh an engaging conversation and doing solo shows something 403 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 7: I can't do very well, and there aren't that many 404 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 7: that do it well, and you've done it really well 405 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 7: for quite a while. I thoroughly enjoyed playing with playing 406 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 7: in the year with you, going back and forth. Sometimes 407 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 7: the third person in could be. 408 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: A little difficult, as. 409 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 6: We both know, but uh no, it was. It's a 410 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: real joy. 411 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 7: And uh, I just wish you the best going forward here. 412 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 7: I'm glad that you're doing this show today this way, 413 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 7: because you know, people should under stand how many of 414 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 7: us really enjoyed working with you and how much you 415 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 7: brought to the table. Because man, knowledge is a cool thing. 416 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 7: I call it informed opinion. You know everybody's got opinions, 417 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 7: but you gave us informed opinions and get better at 418 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 7: the sports you weren't as familiar with, but on the 419 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 7: stuff that was in your wheelhouse. 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Find a program near you learn sk usa 430 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: dot com. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. 431 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, not the usual DG. Because 432 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: this is going to be my last live sports radio 433 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: show for the time being. I'm gonna focus my daytime 434 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: attention on on the Green Bay Phoenix. On the Green 435 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 3: Bay Phoenix, my next guest is I tell people all 436 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: the time that you know, A real friend is somebody 437 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: who thinks of you one in times of need, but 438 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 3: two will always be your kind of biggest champion. And 439 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: I've taken one quasi journalism class in my lifetime, Damnpyre, 440 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: and that one was at Golden West College, Golden West College. 441 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: But I wrote for the school newspaper at Golden West College. 442 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: Guess what I wrote about. 443 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 4: The school newspaper at Golden West College, which I've known. 444 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: Where is it? Heine Beachington. I don't know the the 445 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 4: baseball team. 446 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: Right. 447 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: One would think, Okay, I grew up playing sports. I 448 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: love sports. I want to talk about sports. You would 449 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: think I would cover sports, right I was. I did 450 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: food critique. I did food critique. Take a guess. 451 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: Why nobody else would do it? I don't help and 452 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: why free food? Free food? Oh, free food makes sense? 453 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: Free food because I am low budget. I'd ask anybody 454 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: who knows me, like man, open up that wallet. Now 455 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm better now, obviously we're gonna this was just gonna 456 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: take a little hit with this one here. But the 457 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: point is I'm a free food. The fact that you 458 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: ordered pizza today is great. 459 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: I did. 460 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: I went to the wallet but it was that it 461 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: was the look you not really going to the wallet thing, 462 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: but thank you for the pizza. 463 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: In advance Doug's third review of In and Out this 464 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: Week on the school newspaper. 465 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: But I made a friend in that class. He was 466 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: a football player, and then he didn't play football. He 467 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: went to Kansas so remarkably he goes to our rival school. 468 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: And while at Oklahoma State, my college roommate's girlfriend was 469 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: at KU, so we would go up and back there 470 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: sometimes and he would come down for a lot of 471 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: the big games. Fast forward to two thousand and two 472 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: and I had just gotten home from playing in Israel, 473 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: and I was filling in at WWLS, the Sports Animal 474 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma City, and I want to fill in because 475 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: Jim Travor, the afternoon host, was the color voice for 476 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks and they were good then, and so he 477 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: was off there lots of times in the summer and 478 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: I would fill in. And I got a call from 479 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: Brandon after doing a show and he's like, hey, Dan 480 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 3: Steer from ESPN's trying to get a hold of you. 481 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: And I didn't have a cell phone at the time. 482 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: I did didn't have an email address outside like hotmail, 483 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: and I didn't have an extension at the studio because 484 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: I wasn't full time. Brandon was the guy responsible for 485 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: me getting an interview to do college basketball at ESPN, 486 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: and Brandon was my first producer when I got my 487 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: first show two thousand and two till two thousand and 488 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: three at Wwwis's Sports. And he joins US now from Denver, 489 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: where he covers the Broncos. He also has his own 490 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: podcast network. 491 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 7: BK. 492 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: What did you write about for the school newspaper. 493 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 5: I didn't write with the school newspaper. I was in 494 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 5: the football offseason program, so I was just in that 495 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: class with you. I think I might have written one 496 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 5: article as like part of an assignment, but I didn't 497 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: get published in the school newspaper. And I'd been writing 498 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: in Dallas as a kid and was published in the 499 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: Dallas Morning News, where I would write articles about wrestling 500 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 5: tournaments that I was in, so I wouldn't quote myself, 501 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: but I would quote my teammates and my coach, and 502 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: would write features about some of my friends who played 503 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: football and went on to play college football. But yeah, 504 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: I didn't writ at Golden West. I did know, though, 505 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: that I met you that you know, one day you 506 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: would work at every single major sports radio network and 507 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, beyond March Madness coverage with Charles Barkley and 508 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 5: Kenny Smith and Ernie Johnson and Greg Gumbele. So I 509 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: got that sense when you know, when we were fresh 510 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 5: I guess I was a freshman. You were sophomore. But 511 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 5: I was eighteen nineteen, you were nineteen twenty. I was like, oh, 512 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 5: this guy's going to be something. 513 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: My strongest memory of our show at night because I 514 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: did the middle of the day's show with Mark Rogers 515 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: right the mod squad, and then we had the nightly. 516 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: We did a basketball show at night. Remember guys, we 517 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: did a basketball show in Oklahoma City at night in 518 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: two thousand and two. Now, right now, a basketball show 519 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: at night in Oklahoma City is great. Back then, there 520 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: were only three sports covered in Oklahoma City radio, football, 521 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: spring football, and recruiting, and really was Ou football, Spring football, 522 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: and recruiting. 523 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: Can I can? I guess? You can? I guess your 524 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: strongest memory because lamarrow the scent of marijuana from lamar odom. 525 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: We had he somehow, Brandon has the unique ability to 526 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: know everybody and to get into any room. There's never 527 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: been an event that I've gone to that he wasn't 528 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: able to get into, usually before I could, and I 529 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: was invited and had a ticket, and oftentimes he did not, 530 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: so he had. I don't even how did you. I 531 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: don't even know how you knew lamar Odom. But lamar 532 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: Odom was early on in the NBA. He was, he 533 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: was on my radio show, and he could not have 534 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: possibly been more high, otherwise he would have been in 535 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: a coma. That's my strongest wimmer. 536 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: What's weird is if I were to guess how I 537 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 5: knew lamar Odom, it'd be through a friend who I 538 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: met after working at the Sports Animal, which why it 539 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: makes why why it makes less sense of it had 540 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 5: to be through a third party, somebody that knew him 541 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: along the way, because my friend Jonathan grun Faster work 542 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: with the Serious when you went on too ESPN full time. 543 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: I took a job at Serious Sport Serious XM as 544 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 5: it was getting off the ground, and my buddy Jonathan, 545 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: who worked there in at WFN was Lamar's was the 546 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: manager at Rhode Island and Lamar had to set up 547 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 5: that first year. So you're driving back the Queens, so 548 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: I don't know how we got Lamar Lamont. That's one 549 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 5: that I could rack my brain for hours, and I'm 550 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: not really sure, but it's certainly the most memorable that 551 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 5: And I remember playing a lot of pickup basketball and 552 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: this guy tried to tell us he played at Portland 553 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: or Portland State, and of course we do the research. 554 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: He didn't, And he kept calling you a radio DJ. 555 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: And then you hit us three to win the game, 556 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 5: and you'd just gotten back from playing in Europe, and 557 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: you said, and he's like, okay, come on, mister DJ, 558 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: and you hit the shot. I sound like Chuck Wilson 559 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 5: now telling these glory day stories. But you hit the 560 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: shot to keep winning or maybe end the day. And 561 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: and you go and professional basketball player mf for check 562 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 5: the resume. And I was like, that's a good line. 563 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: Check or he said, check the resume mf For. I 564 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: was like, that's a good line. 565 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 566 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: Most times now I just do Hey, hey, Bud, this 567 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: is the lowest point of my basketball career, of the 568 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: high point of force. Let's let's just let's just let's 569 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: just get this thing over with. Was that at the temple. 570 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: We played a lot of pickup basketball at the temple 571 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: in Oka. 572 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: Have I been at the church where we played with 573 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 5: Kelly greg the longtime nose tackle for the for the 574 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 5: Ravens with his brother, So I think that was at 575 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: the church. We had about three rounds. We had one 576 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 5: up a temple where that was not much fun for 577 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 5: you except for cardio, and then we had a couple 578 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: of church runs Mark Rodgers Hattison one and uh yeah, 579 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: it was no. That was definitely at the church. That 580 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: was not at the temple. 581 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: The church run was where I met my first bookie 582 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: and I actually asked, you, why are they giving that 583 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: guy money? They're like, he's a bookie. I was like, 584 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: they exist in real life. He's like, yeah, there's a 585 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: bookie everywhere I had. I had no idea. I had 586 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: no idea. 587 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 5: Well, then then you moved to the East Coast and 588 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 5: they really existed everywhere, and now they're just on your phone. 589 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: Correct listen, we got we got to run. I wanted 590 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: to have you on to tell you I appreciate you. 591 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate I appreciate you because you did help 592 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: me get my first radio job. And then when you 593 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 5: went to CBS and I went up there to interview 594 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: at CBS Sports radio. You told me not to take 595 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: the job and to say in Denver. I took it anyway. 596 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: But the second day was there, I called the train 597 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 5: to get my job back. Moved back eleven weeks later 598 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: and the rest is history. You know. Was with my 599 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: girlfriend now wife. We've got three kids. So thank you 600 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: for that, and thanks for ros being a good friend. 601 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: And you also have the biggest Green Bay Phoenix fan 602 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 5: in the state of Colorado in my seven year old Leo, 603 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 5: who went to Allen Fieldhouse, a lifelong Jayhawks fan because 604 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 5: his dad, because it's my alma mater, and left a 605 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 5: fan of the opposition, which almost never happens. I have 606 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: to think when a kid goes to a school or 607 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: goes to Lawrence to watch a game at Allen Field House, 608 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 5: so he's always asking how you're doing it, and he's 609 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 5: very excited that you are six dash seven right now. 610 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 5: So I said, there's gonna be a lot more wins 611 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: than that though. In the last one, that's funny. 612 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: When I walked out Allen Field House, I put on 613 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: a Kansas sweatshirt. I was a much bigger fan of them. 614 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: B KA, I love you, say hi, do you lovely Bride? 615 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: And your kids and tell Leo we need his cheering. 616 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: We take on Campbell on Tuesday. Thanks thanks for joining me. 617 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely happy honkah, happy holladays to you. 618 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 619 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 620 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: Have you heard about the Trainer Games? Add this year 621 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: Binge list ten athletes go ahead to head for a 622 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: chance to win an iFIT trainer contract. We're two hundred 623 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: and fifty grand streaming live on Prime Video starting January eighth. 624 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: What's it take to make it well? You gotta have 625 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: work at gatty, willing to work when other people are not. 626 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: That's really it. 627 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 7: I was very. 628 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: Fortunate to not have to grind the way that Dan 629 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: Beyer did early on coming up because at being a 630 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: former college basketball player and a fairly notable one. I 631 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: got a really good shot in Oklahoma City, making way 632 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: more money than you normally doing your first radio show, 633 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: and then I was on like a rocket rocket ship 634 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 3: to go to ESPN a year later. But I do 635 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: think that it's when you do a radio show, a 636 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: TV show, when you do anything. Now, coaching a college 637 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: buss team, staff is everything surrounding yourself with really good people. 638 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: I came here eight years ago. Ryan Music was my producer. 639 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know Ryan from Adam. What do you remember 640 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: Ryan about when we first started linking up and working. 641 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 8: I will tell you, Doug, it was a great pleasure 642 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 8: to get to work with you and launch the show. 643 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 8: And one of my favorite things about you was, after 644 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 8: being your producer and only knowing you for about three months, 645 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 8: you traveled to Israel to coach the Jewish national team 646 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 8: and you asked if I could drop you off at 647 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 8: the airport. I said, no problem, that's not an issue. 648 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 8: And then as we arrived at the Bourbank airport, you said, 649 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 8: all right, here's my Tesla and have fun for the 650 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 8: next three months. And I was like, okay, I guess 651 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 8: I have myself a brand new Tesla for the next 652 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 8: month or so. 653 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 5: While you were in Israel, when. 654 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 3: I got Greg, you said you said shakes it one twenty. 655 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, easy, now you're like, yeah, it 656 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: shakes it one twenty. I know what's going on there? 657 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh me either. 658 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 8: I thought Elon had this whole thing figured out with 659 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 8: aerodynamics and rocket ships, but hey, no, listen, Doug, it 660 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 8: was nothing but a pleasure, and obviously great people of 661 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 8: Green Bay have a good one, and know that you'll 662 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 8: only do great things as you lean into this folk 663 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 8: and pursue the building a great program. 664 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: Here's the big question we want to ask, Hey, you're 665 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: now Collins producer. Do you take his picks as we 666 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: do and bet the opposite you fade all of his 667 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: picks in his blazing five. If so, you would be 668 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: a multi millionaire right now for this year. 669 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 8: Well, Doug, the fact that I am still Collins producer 670 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 8: if that map checks out, probably not actually the case. 671 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 8: It's kind of like if you'd won the power Ball, 672 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 8: you'd probably never see me again. 673 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: So well, listen, from humble beginnings, you've become a star 674 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: from ce Sun as a volleyball player to my producer 675 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: now living in Chicago, living the high life, doing Volume 676 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: stuff and Collin stuff. Congratulate Sid everything, and thanks for 677 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: joining me, and thanks for all your hard work. 678 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 8: Thank you, Doug. 679 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: That's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio coming 680 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: up next. There's one individual human being that's changed the 681 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: trajectory of my life in sports radio more than anyone else. 682 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: Anyone else. I'm gonna say thank you, yeah, thank you, 683 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: and we'll go down memory lane of how I got 684 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: started in this racket. That's up coming next to The 685 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show, the Final Show on Fox Sports Radio