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My name is 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there in New 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: York City, a blustery New York City today. 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm glad you said blustery, Tye. It's been a while 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: since we've been able to accurately use that adjective. And 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: this town, Tie, it rips the bones from your back. 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: It's a death trap. This town's a suicide rap. We 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: got to get out tie. While we're young tramps like us. 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 3: Come on, Tye, baby, we were born to run. Listen, 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: I watched one organ game in which they dominate on 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: the ground. Now it's born to run one game. 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a while since you did that. Yeah, 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: we've had people on Twitter talk about how they miss 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: you serenading me mm hmm with some unknown lyrics. So 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I was able to pick that up up. 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Ripping the bones from the back sort of gave away 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: that it. Hopefully we did it at a lyric and 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: not some sort of college football breaking news story. But 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I was glad I was able to pick that one up. 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: A classic. 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: I imagine most young lads and lasses that are raised in 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: Eastern PA and New Jersey and New York like, that's 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: just a lullaby, yes for people growing up. So I 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: just I throw you a little Northeastern bone there. 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that Hello, boys and girls, welcome back 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: to the Solid Verbal. My name is ty his name 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: is Dan. You can find us every week, of course 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: at solidverbal dot com. We record a Wednesday show where 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: we priview all the games. That's what we're doing today, 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: by the way, and also a Sunday show, a Sunday 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: morning show. Unlike last Sunday where we had some technical woes, 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: we do that early on Sunday mornings, recap all the 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: action and most importantly, play your reverbs, which you can 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: find on your touchtne keypad at four oh eight verbal one, 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: that is four oh eight eight three seven two two 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: five point one. Give us a call, stream of consciousness, 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: send us a text if you're into such things. Just 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: let us know what's on your mind as you watch 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: all of these games going on all throughout week eight. 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: We're also available across all social media channels. 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't need to name them all. 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: And if you're really a power user of the verbal, 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: going out to the subreddit created by Verballers four Verballers 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: at reddit dot com slash r slash solid Verbal. I 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: believe I checked all the boxes there, Dan, is that correct? 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: You're nailing it, ty man. I'm just I'm standing here 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: in awe of the rhythm with which you are conducting yourself. 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate that I should point out that I am 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: standing as well. 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: We're a stand in show, Tye. 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: We are a standing show. So we've got a bunch 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: to get through tonight. We did the Smilo Don Saturday 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: thing last week, and as we eluded, initially it was 73 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: saber Tooth Saturday, but then through the normal organic course 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: of play here it turned into smile of Don. 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: I think this could be a thing that we just roll. 76 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: With now in the second half of the season, though, 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I am having some difficulty coming up with an S 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: adjective or S modifier to describe this coming Saturday. Have 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: you given this any thought? 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: Are you on the S adjective page? 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I am indeed on adjectives starting dot com slash with dash. 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: S the matchups. In my mind, if we can come 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: up with an S word that dictates that this was 84 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: a weekend before the season started, that you could look 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: at and say this, this weekend is gonna be something special. 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: Mm So maybe like supposedly special Saturday, but that it 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: really writes off the fact that it's college football and 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: it's a wonderful thing. 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't want to go with something like 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: sneaky because sneaky is just too obvious. 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: We have our we say sneaky too much. 92 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: We do we already do. 93 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Let's go with something special Saturday Day as a working title, 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: and then if the spirit moves us throughout the course 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: of recording today, maybe we can change it. 96 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: September Special, Oklahoma, TCU, Michigan, Michigan State. 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: What about what about saccharin Saturday? 98 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: Like? 99 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: It's sweet, but it's not as sweet as it could be. 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: It's not as sweet as Week seven. 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: See I thought, I think saccharin doesn't sacer mean overly sweet. 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: I mean saccarin also gives you cancer if you drink 103 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: a swimming pool of it. 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, what's going dark? 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: Right? 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. I need to think more about this. 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: Let it happen organically. 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: We will. 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the show again. I'm tying he's 110 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Dan before we get into it. I just I wanted 111 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: to play this. 112 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: We do have broking news. 113 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh wow, what's in that Lacroix you're drinking? 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: I know, I know what is this I'm reading about? 115 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa? 116 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: So Nick Bosa, who it's a pretty tame argument to 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: say that he's the best defensive lineman or at least 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: best pass rusher, best edge rusher in the country, perhaps 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: because we do have dexter Lawrence Nett Oliver. But Nick Bosa, 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: who has been a star for Ohio State, struggled with 121 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: injury early on in the season. Before really cementing his 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: injury status against TCU, it looked to be minor. During 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: the game, he was sort of grabbing at his groin 124 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: area after a play and he said, oh, maybe he 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: got stepped on or just landed wrong or something like that. 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: Turns out this core injury. And there was an interview 127 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: with SI that his dad gave following the news that 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: he would be foregoing and withdrawing from the university to 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: rehabilitate and get ready for the draft. It turns out 130 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: it was a bilateral sports hernia surgery. 131 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Okay, sounds that's multiple ladders right there. 132 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: It's multiple words. You don't want. Sports is the only 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: real positive word in there. So essentially he had extremely 134 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: complicated and sensitive surgery in a complicated, sensitive part of 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: his body and the ability to come back, and this 136 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: was something his dad said come back and do your job. 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: If you are a mechanic or a teacher or a 138 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: welder or something like that, perhaps is more doable than 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: it is when you are playing with torque on a 140 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: football field chasing down quarterbacks running four to four. So 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: his rehab was not going to have him back during 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: the season most likely anyway. So he just sort of 143 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: made it official to make it a clean situation that 144 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: he is going to be moving on. Loves Ohio State, 145 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: loves his coaches. I didn't really see that much pushback 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: like he was abandoning his team. Maybe there was, I 147 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: didn't really see it. I think it was pretty clear 148 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: that this was a physical issue that he was just 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: not going to be able to overcome this year. Yeah, well, 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: of course sucks because we get to watch less Nick Bosa. 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: We do, and plenty of hot takes out there. But 152 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I think when you hear it fully described the whole 153 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: context of the situation, Yeah, you get it right. It's 154 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: this is someone with an NFL career. His team obviously 155 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: is very high up in the polls, and I saw 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: there were many comparisons being drawn out there. 157 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: I don't blame him for making this move. 158 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate for Ohio State, unfortunate for us as college 159 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: football fans, and at some point will probably be notable 160 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: moving forward as we talk about the Buckeyes now some 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: of their matchups that lie ahead. But nonetheless I do 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: get it from Nick Bosa's perspective. 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think many people listening to this show 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: had probably heard quote core injury and thought to themselves, oh, 165 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: maybe he strained an AB or something like that, And 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: as soon as they either read it or heard us say, 167 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 3: just now, bilateral sports hernia surgery, then they just said, oh, yeah, 168 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, Okay, you do what you got 169 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 3: to do Nick Bosa. There is no pushback from me, 170 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: So hope he heals up and and reaches his ceiling 171 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: as a football player and a human. 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: On that note, Dan, should we dive into our week 173 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: eight slate of games. 174 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: I think I think we should do that, though. 175 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: The Week one play on words we could go with. 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: By the way, no disrespect to Nick Bosa. The whole 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: time you were going through that little spiel, I. 178 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: Was a sports hernia Saturday. Okay, just make. 179 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Sure I wasn't going to go there. Okay, but it's 180 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: a week slate eight week slate eight. 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: No, do you think it's a week slate though, Well. 182 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: It's weaker than last week. 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: What about Illinois State, North Dakota State tie, Sacred Heart 184 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: Central Connecticut. 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: Semi formal Saturday. 186 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: I like that, that is good. Semi formal Saturday. I 187 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: like that more of us. 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: A casual dress Saturday affair. 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say that's fair because we have storylines that 190 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: are interesting. Can't that are not necessarily in the headline games? 191 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: Can Stanford bounce back? Is ole miss truly the cure 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: for the common offense against Auburn? Will Tennessee make it 193 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: interesting in that pseudo rivalry game hosting Alabama? You know, 194 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: Penn State bounce back ability perdue? Hosting Ohio State? Usc? 195 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Can they exercis the demons? Is that ace Ventura that 196 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: very good in Salt Lake City? So I would say 197 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: semi foremost correct. It's not the the bashee over the 198 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: head weekend. But this is you have to wear a 199 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: blazer if you're really going to appreciate this weekend. 200 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: If you really want to do it correctly. I think 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: that's yeah. I think that's probably the way to fly. 202 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: So we've got a bunch of games here. Dan on 203 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: our sleep, and we're going to start at the very 204 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: top with Michigan and Michigan State. But you know, before 205 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: we do that, if we're if we're being honest about 206 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: this now, I'm just like not sure about what window 207 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: we want to target here, because as I see it, 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Michigan Michigan State's that's a pretty big early game at 209 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: high noon on Saturday. That is at the same time 210 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: as Oklahoma TCU, which could be interesting. The three point 211 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: thirty slate of games is headlined by two in particular 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: that have double digit point spreads in North Carolina State 213 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: at Clemson and Colorado at Washington, both of which we'll 214 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: get into here in a little bit more detail. And 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: even as you look all throughout that three point thirty 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: area of Saturday, you're talking Alabama Tennessee another high point spread, 217 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Penn State at Indiana another high point spread. I think 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: on the East coast, the time to target would be 219 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: like any time between three o'clock and let's say seven 220 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: o'clock if you need to go out, maybe take an 221 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: early dinner out with mister or missus, if you're trying 222 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: to get out and get on the town a little bit, 223 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: or if you've got some running around to do. Again, 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: this is a purely East Coast show. We don't cater 225 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: to the West Coast crowd, so I can't how dare you? 226 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: I guess it would be noon or no, two o'clock 227 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, sometime in the early afternoon for. 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: The West coast. Go out and do your worst. But 229 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm thinking that's your window of opportunity here on we Gate. 230 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be in California next week, and 231 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: I looked at the schedule to see if either USC 232 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: or UCLA was playing. We're playing at home, and apparently 233 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 3: USC is playing ASU at home. I was like, oh, 234 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: that might be you know what, No, it's nice out now. 235 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to do stuff outside and then watch the 236 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: games that start at nine o'clock in the morning tide 237 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: the mid coast. 238 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: So there you go. On semi formal Saturday. Your window 239 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: of opportunity is probably mid to late afternoon. Be back, 240 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: hopefully in time for those seven eight o'clock games. 241 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Got some take a. 242 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: Job, take a jog around the around the block, get 243 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: some fresh air after the nooners end at you know, 244 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: three thirty three forty, get your heart pumping, you pick 245 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: up something for dinner that you'll have later, you'll cook later, 246 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: that you're you'll just eat later. Take that window to say, 247 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: all right, first half of the three thirty games we'll 248 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: see and to State Clemson, I think is the headliner. 249 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: If you don't have any skin in the ACC game, 250 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: you know, take that window. 251 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I might be running a five k Saturday morning. Haven't 252 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: decided yet. 253 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 3: What time are you targeting? 254 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just targeting a finish dude. Come on, you 255 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: can serious. 256 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: Well, you beat twenty seven listen for a finish minute mile. 257 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: For as physically exhilarating as podcasting can be, I don't 258 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: feel like it has conditioned me for this five k run. Yeah, 259 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: your larynx is in tip top shape. My larynx is great. 260 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: But let's go to high Noon on Fox. 261 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: I want to talk about your running. 262 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: We could talk about that later. 263 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Michigan at Michigan State Points Bread here is seven. 264 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: Which feels a little low, a little bit low. 265 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you now the same question I 266 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: asked you it presented to you earlier today on our 267 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: super secret g Chat session. Yeah, are we talking about 268 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: a double deck or open faced letdown sandwich? 269 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: Sure? 270 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: Well that wasn't that cancel itself out? Aren't you just 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: doing no carbs? 272 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: Then? 273 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: Aren't you just having me? 274 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: Does it does kind of cancel itself out? 275 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: It's more of a nothing burger. 276 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah? I would say so in terms of the 277 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: letdown ability, because ty, what do you do in a 278 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: rivalry game? 279 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Danny gotta throw those records out. 280 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: You gotta throw them out, get rid of them, the 281 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: only thing you could do. 282 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: So Michigan last week had the huge, resounding home win 283 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: at night over Wisconsin. Michigan State a gigantic road win 284 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: in Happy Valley. I'm inclined to agree with you. This 285 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: is an in state rivalry. It's not as if we're 286 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: looking at a trap on either side of the equation here. 287 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: It would not surprise me, though, if both teams came 288 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: out a little flat. 289 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't think either is in a letdown the pure 290 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: letdown spot where they're gonna be looking ahead this oponent. 291 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: But look a big win a week ago. I think 292 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: both teams come out flat here. It is a rivalry game. 293 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Michigan State is won four of the last five. Something 294 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: else to keep in mind from my perspective, the game 295 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: within the game is Michigan's ground game against Michigan State's 296 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: rush defense. If Michigan rips off five six yards per carry, 297 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: this game's over. 298 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: It's over. 299 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Michigan State needs to contain the run. They got to 300 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: force Shaye Patterson into that happy feet mode he goes 301 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: into sometimes in the pocket. I think they can do 302 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: that to some degree. And while I do think Michigan 303 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: is better, I don't think anyone's getting blown out here. 304 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: So I tend to air on the side of maybe 305 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: taking points at home. 306 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: What do you see here? 307 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: I tend to side with you. By the way, Ty, 308 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: there is no love lost between these two teams. That's 309 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: one of my all time favorite things. No love loss 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: between these two. Can Jim Harbaugh get the monkey off 311 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: his back? So I really don't like Michigan State's offense, 312 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: and some of that is out of their control. They 313 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: are pretty beat up in the receiving corps beyond Felton Davis, 314 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: their starters are pretty hid. The offensive line has been 315 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: inconsistent in terms of both health and performance, and they still, 316 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, for what feels like the third or 317 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: fourth straight year, can't run the ball with any sort 318 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: of regularity. And you're right, won't be a letdown for 319 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: either of these teams. Michigan after a big demonstrative win 320 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: over Wisconsin and Michigan State sort of sneaking by in 321 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: an ugly but win over Penn States. And you're also right, 322 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: Michigan State did a really good job. Even though Miles 323 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: Sanders got a ton of yardage that the bulk of 324 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: which was on two runs and everything else was like 325 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: a two yard per carry performance from Miles Sanders. They 326 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: did a really nice job against Trace, Mcsorlely. So I 327 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: don't think this is an alley oop situation like we 328 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: saw from LSU last week, where the offense and defense 329 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: are sort of in concert, because this Michigan State offense 330 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: is they're just behind. They are a below average offense, 331 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: and that's generally enough to beat Michigan these past couple 332 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: of years. The weather won't be as bad as it 333 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: was last year. We talked in a little bit of 334 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: a monsoon game here there. I wouldn't sco as far 335 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: as monsoon, but I would say there is going to 336 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: be some perhaps windy rain. The elements perhaps once again 337 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: perhaps could come into play. Michigan looks like the clear, stronger, 338 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: more complete team. I think you're right about Karan Higden 339 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: and that Michigan rushing attack. There has been some scuttle 340 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: butt one of our all time favorite words about Tureek 341 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: Black potentially adding a big piece for Michigan's passing game 342 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: coming back from injury. We'll see. The thing that also 343 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: troubles me a little bit is Michigan away from the 344 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: big house in a very very small sample size ten 345 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: offensive points at Notre Dame first game of the season. 346 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: You can write off some of that. But then they 347 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: go to Northwestern and look completely flat for a good 348 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: chunk of that game on offense, and the defense did 349 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: a good job against the Cats. I think Michigan finally 350 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: gets over the hump and wins this game. But going 351 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: to East Lansing to play a good defense at home 352 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: as a dog, I'm going to take the points. Michigan 353 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: wins this game by five twenty two to seventeen. 354 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Interesting. 355 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, I look, I think I agree with you. 356 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a low scoring game one way or 357 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: the other, and I do think that the Michigan defense 358 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: is good enough to hold down Michigan State. Ultimately they 359 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: win the game on the road. My two bold predictions 360 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: if I could make them very quickly. I think we 361 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: see a weird score in this game. You know my 362 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: weird obsession with weird scores. And I think we see 363 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: a safety in this game. Okay, So with both things 364 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: in the equation, I say Michigan wins eighteen to thirteen 365 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: on the road, but Michigan State covers eighteen thirteen, is 366 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: my prediction here. 367 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: So both with the SPARTI cover Michigan out right. 368 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: We high noon, ABC, Oklahoma at TCU, These Sooners are 369 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: an eight point favored Dan. 370 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: They are. 371 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I have spotted a disturbing trend. 372 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: You tell America you like TCU. 373 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: TCU says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's small, 374 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: that's small, peace competing. 375 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: Okay, big trend. 376 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I've become mildly obsessed with this trend. You know how, 377 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: I guess it was a week ago. You spent like 378 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes researching all that is and ever was at 379 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: NC State. 380 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh, Ty, we don't have to. Everybody already knows that. Yeah, 381 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: you were just stating the obvious. 382 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this has plagued me the way that NC 383 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: State plagued you, really, the way that the number twenty 384 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: three plagued Jim Carrey. 385 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: Didn't see it, heard it was bad. 386 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma has won the last four meetings in this series 387 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: by increasing margins. If you go all the way back 388 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, they won by one point. The next year, 389 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: they won by six points. The next year they won 390 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: by eighteen points, the next year, last year, they won 391 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: by twenty four points. 392 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: Dan, I think we're looking at what does that mean? 393 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: I think we're looking. 394 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: At a good old fashioned factor of six game here, Dan, 395 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: factor of six. 396 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers are out there. 397 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: So what do you have them winning by thirty? 398 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: I have them winning. No, I don't have them winning 399 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: by thirty. That'll be a lot. 400 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it could happen with a way that TCU played 401 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: against Texas Tech. Particularly, give me a number forty eight 402 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: to twenty four. 403 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. 404 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: Twenty four they double them up Oklahoma. Certainly this is 405 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: game number one, coming off of buy of the rough 406 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: and McNeil defensive era. That's right for the Sooners hit 407 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: facing a TCU offense that has been so so bad. 408 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: They've been really time and also very turnover prone. They're 409 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: very turnover per Yeah, and mostly styming by Texas Tech. 410 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: Listen, I like Texas Tech, but let's not. 411 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Pretend that TCU should be held to fourteen points against 412 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: the Red Raiders here. 413 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: Because it was Jet Duffy Texas Tech. 414 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: That's right, Jet Duffy Texas Tech, which is a different incarnation. 415 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: I understand, Yeah, but still Tech is ninety fifth in 416 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: the nation according to the SMP in terms of defense. 417 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: This is not a TCU offense that should be held 418 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: down to the tune of fourteen points. First game without 419 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: Mike Stoops. As you said, players play hard. 420 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: For Ruff and McNeil. That's been his mo. 421 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: They play hard for him now he's running the defense. 422 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: I think it has an immediate impact. I think the 423 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: bye week helps Oklahoma recalibrate things. So I'm thinking factor 424 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: of six to the tune of forty eight twenty four, 425 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: even though the game's. 426 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: On the road. 427 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you hit a lot of the good points. 428 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: TSU has just been playing sloppy. Sean Robinson I think 429 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: has thrown eight or nine picks already this season about 430 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: to pick a game. They're not forcing turnovers, not giving 431 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: themselves short fields. Not that turnovers are sort of an 432 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: explicit thing. There's a randomness to the way fumbles bounds, 433 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: to the way tip balls move through the air. But 434 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: TCU is just they're sloppy. There's no better way to 435 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: say that. Offensively, they're a step behind, They're not rushing 436 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: terribly consistently. They get stuffed at the line a good amount. 437 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: And one of the big things with Oklahoma, as you 438 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: know you saw Sooner fans reacting during the Texas game, 439 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: is their dbs. Their defense particularly struggled with those huge, athletic, 440 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: monstrous Texas receivers Litl Jordan Humphrey and Colin Johnson just 441 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: went up and over. TCU doesn't have those dudes. You 442 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 3: look at the listings of you know, some talented receivers 443 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: Jalen Rager and who Antai Turpa whatever. You're talking five 444 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: to ten, five to eleven, five nine. So I don't 445 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: think if that is a specific weakness of Oklahoma's defense, 446 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: I don't think TCU is that team. The game is 447 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: in Fort Worth, so presumably the Frogs will be better 448 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: at home than they were in Lubbock. But I have 449 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: this as thirty three to twenty Oklahoma. I don't have 450 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: it as high scoring as you do. I think Oklahoma covers. 451 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: We're three thirty ESPN NC State. We are at NC 452 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: State Podcast. 453 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: Now. 454 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, as we just mentioned at Clemson, the line here 455 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half. This is an awful lot of 456 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: points for big game Dan it is and NC State 457 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: has quietly been very good this season. My issue is 458 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that they haven't played anyone near the caliber of Clemson, 459 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's what bothers me the most here. 460 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: I am with you in terms of the opponent level. 461 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: And even when they played BC they get out to 462 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: that nice lead, and they just didn't seem to have 463 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: that killer in state on either side of the ball. 464 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: You're right, and. 465 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: Against Clemson, not that anybody really outside of Alabama or 466 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: Ohio State or somebody like that can really emphatically have 467 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: a killer instinct against this Clemson defense. It's worrisome because 468 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: NC State seems to be more about efficiency than aggression. 469 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: And that's fine because I think that'll make it tough 470 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 3: for Clemson to beat them. And NC State has been 471 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: very good situationally, you know, forcing teams into uncomfortable third 472 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: downs and converting their own third downs with a crazy 473 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: amount of efficiency. I am worried that they haven't been 474 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: able to run the ball. They haven't taken shots downfield, 475 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: even in the way we saw with texts A and 476 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: M from Kellen mont too. I think it was Kendrick 477 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: Rodgers who was catching a lot of those balls downfield, 478 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily see that from this NC State team. 479 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: So they will force Clemson to beat them for four quarters. 480 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: That's me seems correct, So I have this as thirty 481 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: four to twenty three Clemson. I have NC State in 482 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: this game, you know, controlling the ball enough with longeist 483 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: drives to make Clemson play to play, not make mistakes. 484 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: But ultimately Clemson is just too talented and they're two, three, 485 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: four dimensional with the number of ways that they can 486 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: beat NC State at home. So I have this thirty 487 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: four to twenty three. 488 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a leading indicator while watching this game, 489 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: we'll get NC State's passing offense. They've been mostly one 490 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: dimensional this year, correct, And you know they've tried to 491 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: run the ball. They're not very good at it, which 492 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: means a lot's fallen on Ryan Finley, who's been very 493 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: good in his own right, and his line has been 494 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: particularly good at keeping him upright, which is really going 495 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: to be a test this week against a outstanding maybe 496 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: the best defensive line in the country. If Ryan Finley 497 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: has enough time to pass here, I think that makes 498 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: all the difference. If he doesn't, obviously Clemson's not going 499 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: a pretty big legout from underneath that NC State offense. 500 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: My gut here is that NC State's a little too 501 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: unbalanced to win the game, and I think Clemson's got 502 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: a lot of success running the football here. But yeah, 503 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: this has been a one score game in the last 504 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: two seasons, So sixteen and a half to me, that's 505 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: too much. I think thirty one seventeen. 506 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, with when you have in a quarterback with that 507 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: kind of experience and experience playing at a high level, 508 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: that's tough. That's a tough number. But I get it 509 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: because when Clemson has momentum, there are two three teams 510 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: that can run with them, and NC State is not 511 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: one of them. All right. 512 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: Also, at three point thirty on Fox, we've got Colorado 513 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: at Washington. This line is fifteen and a half. Colorado 514 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: did not play well last week against usc and of 515 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: course Washington lost in overtime on the road to Oregon. 516 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: An interesting thing from Friend of the Show Bruce Feldman 517 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: out there on Twitter talking a little bit about the 518 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: body blow theory. Yeah, here is Bruce's tweet. He says, 519 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Mario Christobaul is using the blueprint from his Bama days 520 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: to turn Oregon into badass physical program. My old body 521 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: blow theory seems to be in play. The Ducks FBS 522 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: opponents are winless in their next two games after facing Oregon. 523 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw. I think a listener may have tweeted 524 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: that at Bruce and he added it into his piece. 525 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: So a good fine from either Bruce and or one 526 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: of our listeners and his readers. It's it's probably more 527 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: about who Oregon's opponents have played because and who they 528 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: actually are because they played nobody in the non conference 529 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: part of their schedule. So it's Bowling Green, Portland State, 530 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: San Jose State, Stanford had Notre Dame, and you talk 531 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: to good teams and then Cal does not look good. 532 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't lose to a really good Arizona team. 533 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: But it's probably more of the context. We'll see how 534 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: it shapes out over the season. 535 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: Who do you got in this game. 536 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: In Colorado Washington? Laviscus Nault clearly all American caliber receiver 537 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: is a maybe he left the game against USC early 538 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: and was responsible for something like forty five percent of 539 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: their offense, and for good reason, because he is and 540 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: we talked about this in the offseason. Stole it from 541 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 3: an NBA terminology thing. He's a gravitational player. When he 542 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: is on the field, you have to account for him. 543 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: Colorado's offense is fine, Colorado's defense is fine. They're a 544 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: pretty good team. But they're a pretty good team with 545 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: an excellent playmaker and if he is limited or if 546 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't play, and Colorado, I think is also down 547 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: a starting defensive lineman who left that USC game. And 548 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: it's their second straight game on the road, after going 549 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: to LA now going to Seattle. I think Washington's just 550 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: too good to lose twice to Oregon. And I don't 551 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: have the numbers in front of me about Washington after 552 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: a loss last year. They lose to ASU and then 553 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: comfortably beat UCLA, and then they lose by a touchdown 554 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: to Stanford on the road, and then by three beat Utah. 555 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: So it's sort of inconclusive about recent bounce back ability 556 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: for Washington. But this is a better defense than what 557 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 3: USC has, and USC's defense overwhelmed Colorado so I have 558 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Colorado losing this game Washington taking at thirty seven to seventeen. 559 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Washington's better. They're better than Colorado. I felt 560 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: this way, mind you, about nearly every Washington game because 561 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: it feels like they do play down in the competition. 562 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: And believe me, I say that lovingly. I don't want 563 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: to anger the free range Colorado mob that all of 564 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: us live in fear of. Of course, I think the 565 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Buffs can put some pressure on Jake Browning. I think 566 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: they can force some mistakes. Sure, Ultimately, I think Washington 567 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: WANs on Miles Gaskin and they get the victory. 568 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Who's put up? 569 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't even know is Miles Gaskin playing in this game. 570 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: If he's not, then I didn't know about it. But 571 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: either way, I think Washington, Washington could run the ball, 572 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: and I think something like thirty one to twenty one. 573 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: Okay, he's expected to play. Sorry, Miles Gaskin and Salvon 574 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: Ahmed are expected to play against Colorado, so Gaskin didn't 575 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: play for a good chunk of that second half last week. 576 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: Thirty one to twenty one is my prediction. 577 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: Thirty one twenty one, so they don't cover it. 578 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: We do disagree, correct, we disagree, that's correct. 579 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be worried about Colorado's inability to run 580 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: the ball. There's been times Trevon McMillan has been good, 581 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: but they've they've sort of taken a pretty big step 582 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: back on the ground. 583 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: Saturday at seven pm on ESPN, Mississippi State at LSU. 584 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: The line here is six and. 585 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: A half if you look at the advanced descinp metrics, 586 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: which we love on the show. Yeah, these teams are 587 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: virtually a dead heat. Both are in the top forty 588 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: five in terms of offensive efficiency. Both are like top 589 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: ten caliber defenses. 590 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: LSU way better. 591 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: On special teams in Mississippi State, and I think that's significant. 592 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: In some cases that could translate to points. Certainly, in 593 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: other cases it could just translate to something boring like 594 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: field position. And when you back a team up, it 595 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: ratchets up the pressure it can force mistakes. LSU as 596 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: it goes, is a top ten team in terms of 597 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: turnover margin this season, and even when it hasn't meant 598 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: turnovers for them, it has meant field position. They've been 599 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: on the winning side of the field position game all year, 600 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: which has not been very kind to Mississippi State. They're 601 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: near the bottom of the pack in terms of field position. 602 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: So I like Joe moorehead here. I like what he 603 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: brings to the table just as a football genius friend 604 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: of the Show, of course, formerly of Penn State. I 605 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: think he's going to have a game plan for LSU, 606 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: and I think LSU probably comes out a little flat 607 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: after the win last week against Georgia, but this is 608 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: the kind of game where they pull away late, either 609 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: with some sort of special teams play or with some 610 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: sort of defensive play. I think it's low scoring. I 611 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: think it's twenty to thirteen. I think LSU covers at home, 612 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: but only barely. 613 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: It it is a letdown spot, and it is a 614 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: very bad team to get a letdown spot against. I 615 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: was super impressed with LSU. I think what they're able 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: to do and how they're able to do things is 617 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: particularly impressive because this is not a machine of an offense. 618 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: It's fine, it's timely, it gets the job done. LSU 619 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: is good, period, end of story, full stop. LSU's good. 620 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: They are at least a top twelve fourteen team, if 621 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: not better. But situationally, Mississippi State after a bye with 622 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: two weeks to prepare, and this is a very good 623 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: Mississippi State defense, particularly at preventing bigger chunk plays. They 624 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: run the ball especially well. They've been even better than 625 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: they were early on in the season, where they were 626 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 3: just maddeningly inconsistent when they realize, oh, we shouldn't shouldn't 627 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: throw it. With Nick Fitzgerald, that's not his thing. We 628 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: all have our strengths in life. His is not necessarily 629 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: throwing the ball downfield consistently. I like Mississippi State here, 630 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: not just to keep it close, ty. I think they 631 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: win this game out right. 632 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 633 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: I think it's twenty to seventeen Bulldogs and it's just 634 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: situationally a good spot for State. 635 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm a little spooked by the fact that they scored 636 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: a combined thirteen points against Kentucky and Florida. 637 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: That's mine, as you should be. That's my main reservation. 638 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: And I realize Joe Moorehead's going to figure things out 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: as the season grows a little bit more mature here, 640 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: But man, I can't get past that for me. That's 641 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: that's sort of the stumbling block here. I do think 642 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: low scoring it would not surprise me. I would not 643 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: at all want to lock this one up or put 644 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: any real meat of confidence points on this because I'm 645 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: just not sure. But I think low scoring. I think 646 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: Lys wins at home and they probably cover the spread. 647 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: But only state a bit well they scored. 648 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: They got over twenty tie against Auburn, which, yeah, I 649 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: know it takes on a different context. 650 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: It does take on a different context, but for sure 651 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: fair enough. And then also late night this one at 652 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: seven thirty on Fox. A lot of games on Fox 653 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: this week. 654 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: We've got the Oregon Ducks, your Oregon Ducks on the 655 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: road at Washington State. 656 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: The point spread now up to three. 657 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: We actually we haven't set a peep about Wazoo all year, 658 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: but very quietly the Koogs are five and one. Their 659 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: only loss came a few weeks ago at USC. 660 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: This correct me. 661 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong here. This game feels destined to be 662 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: a shootout. Fair or not fair? Oh, totally fair. I 663 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: think it goes over seventy points combined. I don't know 664 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: what the over under is. Maybe you can look that 665 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: up momentarily, but again I'll stick with the theme from 666 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Mississippi State LSU. There is a letdown factor. The weird, 667 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: the more weird and more remote. The destination the sort 668 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: of stronger the home field advantage, and I believe Pullman 669 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: is as far away from any interstate as any Power 670 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: five school. Oregon is down their starting left tackle who 671 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: was a still is a sensational true freshman Pine Seol. 672 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: Game day is going to be there, huge environment. I 673 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: saw the get in price standing room only was like 674 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: three hundred bucks a ticket, which for Washington State. 675 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: That's a lot of that's a lot of money for 676 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: a WAZU. 677 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: G that's an enormous deal. That's an enormous deal anywhere, 678 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: but particularly for Washington State. This is this is going 679 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: to be an electric Martin Stadium. They had their coming 680 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: off of a BI week, so they've had a couple 681 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: of weeks prepared for this team. I don't love the 682 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: Cougar run defense. You saw Jamar Jefferson for Oregon State 683 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: run all over them. So if Oregon's sort of play 684 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 3: calling and identity is similar to what it was against Washington, 685 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: they should be in a pretty good spot. It'll be 686 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: easier for the Ducks to throw it against this Washington 687 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 3: State defense. But this is still a pretty good Cougar d. 688 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: They showed out pretty well against a Utah offense that's 689 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: been pretty quickly improving drop forty for the last couple 690 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 3: of weeks, I believe. And if Washington State is able 691 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: to and I imagine they will be, if they're able 692 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: to target and take advantage of Oregon defensive backs, linebackers, 693 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: whatever in coverage consistently enough, they should win this game. 694 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: I think our perception of Oregon is a little bit inflated. 695 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 3: Think about what you think about the Ducks. If Peyton 696 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 3: Henry's field goal went in a very makeable field goal 697 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's not an Oregon team 698 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: who has turned the corner and is among the Pac 699 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: twelve's best, But is an Oregon team with a moral 700 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: victory against both Stanford and Washington and nothing else. So 701 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: I think this is a break pumping situation for Oregon. 702 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: It's winnable. I think they're probably the more talented team, 703 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: and they have the best player on the field in 704 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. But again, situationally, it's just it's a tough ask. 705 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: I have wazoo here thirty eight, thirty three. 706 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those deals where the last 707 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: team to have the ball is gonna end up winning. 708 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: The over under, by the way, is sixty seven and 709 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: a half at time of recording. 710 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: I think we go over. I agree with you. 711 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the emotional angle here. I think Oregon's 712 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: really good, but I think that win over Washington, man, 713 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: it is tough to get fired up after that. Combine 714 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: that with what this game means for Wazoo with Game 715 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: Day coming to town, I'm gonna go Wazoo at home, 716 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: a shootout, last one to have the ball. Forty five 717 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: to forty one. Probably a fun game to watch, a 718 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of points, but a tough ask for Oregon to 719 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: now go on the road to a weird place. As 720 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: you said one week after that Washington victory forty five 721 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: to forty one, I'm going Koop's yeah. 722 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 3: This Washington State offense, by the way, because we didn't 723 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: really talk about it beyond targeting Oregon. They're good, they 724 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: are extremely efficient. They haven't played the best schedules, so 725 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: we don't know how truly good or great or pretty 726 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: good they are. But for Gardner Minshew, the grad transfer 727 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: from ECU to come in, you know, to lose a 728 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: couple of key offensive linemen, to lose a couple of big, 729 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 3: big deals on defense to lose a couple receivers and 730 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: to sort of pick up this offense and play with 731 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: the rhythm that they have. I think it's Dontavian Martin 732 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 3: who's done a good job and Jamiir Calvin on the outside. 733 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 3: For them, it's it's been impressive and this will win 734 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: or lose what We'll have an excellent sense of wazoo 735 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: and the rest of the year. 736 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: One other thing I wanted to mention Dan. 737 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: Thanks to two full years of research and development and 738 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: multiple improvements in design and performance and comfort, Bombas are 739 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: the most comfortable socks in the history of feet. 740 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: Wearing mine literally right now. 741 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: As am I as am I as I as I 742 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: stand to record and get the surge of adrenaline flowing 743 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: through my voice into the microphone. 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Redeem your offer and by going to that url, 803 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: it will let them know that you support the show. 804 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: To get it out there and check it out. 805 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, a bunch of other games that we're going to 806 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: get through here, let's go back in time DAN Thursday, 807 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: nine pm on ESPN, Stanford on the road at ASU. 808 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: The Cardinal is a two and a half point favorite 809 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: Arizona State. 810 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 4: Dan. 811 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: It it feels like they're good enough to win or 812 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: lose any game by like seven points. 813 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's that they're a competitive team with certain 814 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: strengths and very clear weaknesses. 815 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: I think Stanford may also fall into that category. I 816 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: think that's right if for being fair at time of recording. 817 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 2: I'm still not sure if Bryce Love is playing, but 818 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Stanford here and the better 819 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: defense to win on the road and cover. 820 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. I never really love taking the road team in 821 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 3: these Thursday night spots, but I don't anticipate a crazy 822 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: hostile atmosphere in Tempe. And both of these teams in 823 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve, to their credit, has done a better 824 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 3: job of the team's playing Thursday or Friday nights getting 825 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: a bye week before or after, but generally before, so 826 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 3: both of these teams coming off of a bye, so 827 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: no crazy short week situation for either of these teams. 828 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 3: I like Stanford to have some success through the air. 829 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: ASU's pass defense has largely been disappointing at best, so 830 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 3: give me the Cardinal. I don't know that they're going 831 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 3: to be the same type of grower that they have 832 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: been in recent years, but I do I do think 833 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 3: they show out in Tempe. 834 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to high Noon on ESPN on Saturday, 835 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: Auburn at Ole. 836 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 2: Miss. 837 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: The line here is four wind opened, round two shot up. 838 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: This game means a lot for Gus Malson because folks 839 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: out there are already starting to talk about is thirty 840 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: eight million dollar buyout. Maybe it's more it's kind of 841 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: shrouded in mystique. 842 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: By the way, if Auburn gets rid of Gus Melson 843 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: and it's anywhere, it cost him anywhere north of twenty 844 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: million dollars, can not playing a single coach for getting 845 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: in line to go coach at Auburn, to get paid 846 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 3: to not coach, to do a perfectly adequate, if not 847 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 3: pretty impressive job at times and get fired and get 848 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: paid for it. So what a story? 849 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: Love it? 850 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen this play before where Gus 851 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: is on the hot seat and then he mounts to 852 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: charge and he just he has alligator blood. He can't 853 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: kill him. And now we're coming off what a two 854 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: game losing streak going to Old Miss Ole Miss has 855 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: the offense, not so much defense. 856 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: But they're fun to watch. 857 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: Sure, I I am so tempted to go Old Miss 858 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: plus the points and outright here, but I am a 859 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: bit spooked by the fact that again this is like 860 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: history repeating itself from Alazon. I just it feels all 861 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: too familiar for him to be in this situation. 862 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, did you see the stories from 863 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 3: the Auburn Tennessee game that like Jeremy Pruitt was calling 864 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 3: Auburn's plays out loud on the sideline in the way 865 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: that these guys in the coaches special during the you know, 866 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 3: the National championship game or the semi final, Like I 867 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 3: remember Dan Mullen doing it. He was like, Oh yeah, 868 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 3: this is is his own left. Oh yeah, this is 869 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 3: a is a hitch to the right. Apparently Auburn was 870 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: just they were tipping, I guess because and I don't 871 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 3: know if it was a matter of because the formations 872 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: or because of the personnel groupings I saw. I think 873 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: it was Jordan Rodgers from the SEC Network former Bachelor, 874 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: I believe he mentioned something that when I don't know 875 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: it was Chandler Cox or whoever, some h back or 876 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 3: tight end was on the field, it was like ninety 877 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 3: one percent run. It was like it was Gus Malson, 878 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 3: Like even for Gus Maleson's standards, was more over the 879 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: top predictable than he's ever been. So I get the 880 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: frustration if a coach on the other sideline is seeing 881 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 3: everything as it happens, I don't know how unusual or 882 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: usual that is for really good defensive minds. But not 883 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 3: a great sign for Auburn's offense, especially during the same 884 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: week during which Gus Malsan had to say Nope, we're 885 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: sticking with Jared Stidham. Yeah, right, when you have to 886 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 3: come out and say that, I think Ole Miss is 887 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 3: the cure for the common offense. Auburn wins this game 888 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: by a couple touchdowns. They give up some points because 889 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 3: the offense does still have that propensity to stall. We 890 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: saw them even struggle with Arkansas to get going at times. 891 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 3: So I have it thirty five to twenty Auburn here. 892 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: They do get going well enough against ole Miss on 893 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: the road. 894 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: It really is a question of whether or not you 895 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: truly believe that Auburn is broken, correct do you? 896 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: I do? Actually, okay, and I'm gonna. 897 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: Go spreads up to what four spread is? 898 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 4: Four? 899 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm going Ole Miss out right? 900 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 3: Wow, So like shoot out because it doesn't feel like 901 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 3: they're keeping anyone down. 902 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 2: I don't know oll Miss out right. 903 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: Auburn can't run the ball, and not that it takes 904 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: much to run the ball against ole Miss. 905 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,479 Speaker 2: I understand that. I'm just saying, but they can't. They can't. 906 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 3: They're broken. Yeah, I think DK metcalf is the receiver 907 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 3: oute for the season. No for a for ale miss. 908 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 3: That's I mean, it's significant, but that really isn't the 909 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 3: issue at hand. It's not really going to be no 910 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 3: you know, ole missus offense. It's just a matter of 911 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: if all miss wins, they need to make three stops 912 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: or something like that. They can. By the way, just 913 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 3: for me, this would be a weird one watch this game. 914 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: Just for the purposes of being accurate. Jordan Rogers was 915 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: not the batche where he was on The Bachelorette and 916 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: once season twelve of The Bachelorette, I believe still engaged 917 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: to Jojo Fletcher. 918 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: Okay, was he good? Did you like him? 919 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 4: No? 920 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. It doesn't see it. 921 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 2: I didn't. 922 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it was just an act for TV. 923 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it wasn't. 924 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Moving on three thirty on CBS Alabama at Tennessee. 925 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: You just talked about Jeremy Pruett. 926 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, line here twenty nine points. 927 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: You feel in twenty nine points home dog, Jeremy Prewitt. 928 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was a corner turned I 929 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: would say for Jared Quarantana. 930 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 2: You going home dog of the week. 931 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 3: Here I mean, listen, I think twas playing. Yeah, his 932 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 3: knee's fine, and you know, Jeremy prewittt is probably along 933 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 3: with a couple of other SEC defensive coordinators. You mel 934 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: Renfro obviously is from that Alabama system, but incredibly familiar 935 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: with the architecture of this Alabama defense as their defensive 936 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 3: coordinator last year. 937 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 2: That's right. 938 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 3: I just at a certain point, if TUA is in, 939 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: they're thirty points minimum better than everybody in the conference 940 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 3: that at this point is in Georgia. So maybe Mississippi State, 941 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: I Tennessee falls under that that grouping. So I have 942 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 3: I have Bama fifty four to twenty three, maybe close 943 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,959 Speaker 3: ish at the half, maybe we get to second half. Toua, 944 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 3: I have that buy what's that thirty one? 945 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm look, if TUA is in for twenty minutes, 946 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: that's good for three hundred yards and probably twenty eight points. 947 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't like Tennessee's defense at all. I'm happy for 948 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruitt that they got the win, and you know 949 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: that things seem to be going in a positive direction. 950 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: But this is a traditional rivalry here. Maybe some of 951 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: that emotion at home works in their favor, but I'm 952 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: going Bama minus anything. I don't even care. I don't 953 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: even think twice about. 954 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: It at this point. Yeah, and we'll see what to 955 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: is me. I mean, everybody is sort of claiming that 956 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 3: it's fine. If you needed to come back against missoo, 957 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,959 Speaker 3: he would have. But it's, you know, it's a little 958 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 3: bit of a concern. 959 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: Three thirty ABC Penn State off their loss on the 960 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: road at Indiana points spread up to sixteen points in 961 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: favor of the Nitney Lions. Set it on Sunday. If 962 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: Penn State comes out flat, Indiana could beat him here. 963 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: I only there's any question about that. 964 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 965 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: The thing for Indiana though, is that they played Ohio 966 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: State and Iowa on back to back weeks and now 967 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: they got Penn State. So I wonder what kind of 968 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: a toll. I think that takes a greater toll on 969 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 1: Indiana than the Michigan State game does on Penn State. 970 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: I think Penn State was in for a root awakening. 971 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: I think they were overdue for that root awakening. They 972 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: got it last week against Michigan State. I think they 973 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,959 Speaker 1: roll Indiana here even though the game's on the road. 974 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: Do you feel I think I feel similarly. But do 975 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: you is it in your mind that Penn State this 976 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 3: year like out of ten with you know, a ten 977 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 3: out of ten being what they look like against Michigan 978 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 3: last year. What is their progress? What is your like 979 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 3: status report? Because the Penn State seems pretty good, but 980 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: defensively a full step or two back from where they've. 981 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: Been totally a couple of seasons. Totally. 982 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: And you also earlier on our secret g chat session 983 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: besmirched the good name of one tracement sorly. Now, I'm 984 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: never going to forgive you for that. I'm going to 985 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: continue on with the show because I'm a constant forts team. 986 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 3: Points against Michigan State. It's almost I'm gonna I'm not 987 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 3: gonna let you forget that ever. But it's good. 988 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: No, they're a step back. They're not the same team 989 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: as they were a year ago. 990 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: And perhaps it was a little too ambitious for some 991 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: of us. I mean, I'm not even including myself in this. 992 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: I was high on Penn State. They's still a nine 993 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 1: to ten win team. But yeah, I'm just I think 994 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: this is kind of what we should have expected all 995 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: along from them. 996 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 2: But they roll Indiana here, I think they roll Indiana. 997 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana is they've They're actually built pretty well up front. 998 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: They did a good job against a couple teams against 999 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 3: the run. Penn State, I think is a little bit 1000 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 3: more versatile than that. They are not a one dimensional 1001 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 3: offense when they are at not even their best, but 1002 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 3: when they're at a pretty good level. I think Penn 1003 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 3: State wins this game by about twenty. This is not 1004 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 3: a runaway game. Maybe it's a back door. This game 1005 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: was a lot closer than the final score indicates type situation. 1006 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 3: Forty two to twenty is where I have this. 1007 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 2: All right, seven point thirty. 1008 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: Another big ten game on ABC, Ohio State at Purdue. 1009 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: The line here someone needs to explain this to me. 1010 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: It opened at twelve, now it's up to fourteen in 1011 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: favor of Ohio State. I believe this is because something 1012 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: we mentioned last week. The Ohio State defense does leave 1013 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: a bit to be desired and Perdue right now they're 1014 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: scoring points like crazy, per So I think we're looking 1015 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: at a game here where Perdue's able to throw, they're 1016 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: able to score. They're certainly at home, it's at night. 1017 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,959 Speaker 1: I would expect they'll be pretty amped up for this game. 1018 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State gets the late cover. I think 1019 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: I think maybe we're talking about like a front door 1020 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: cover situation, a late touchdown they end up covering the 1021 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: point spread. 1022 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 3: I always hope that when you play that sound, somebody 1023 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: is in a room with their dog. Oh they go 1024 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 3: just goes nuts. I'm gonna say D. 1025 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 1: Forty nine twenty eight a late ish cover Ohio State wins. 1026 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 3: I produce my Yako's Home Dog of the Week. 1027 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: The Yakos Home Dog of the Week. 1028 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 3: I would be god that sound is so disturbing. I 1029 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 3: would be remiss if I did not mention the Triple 1030 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 3: X burger that you can get in West Lafayette. Yeah, 1031 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 3: I have had it. There's a really gross one I 1032 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 3: think that gets that puts peanut butter on their burger. 1033 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 3: I forget, Yeah, it's here we go. The Dwayne Purvis 1034 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 3: All American is a quarter pound chop steak, thick, creamy 1035 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 3: peanut butter American cheese, lettuce, tomato pickle on a toasty 1036 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 3: sesame bun. 1037 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 2: So toasty peanut butter burger. 1038 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 3: So I think Purdue ultimately in this game, matches up 1039 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 3: pretty well. I don't love their defense, but I think 1040 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to generate some big plays. I 1041 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: like their passing game. I am drinking the rass, aid Tye, No, 1042 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: I am, so I'm going with Purdue here. There's a 1043 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 3: certain amount of struggle. Is too intense a word, but 1044 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 3: I am a little bit concerned about Ohio States, you know, 1045 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 3: unable to run the ball in a rhythm befitting of 1046 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: having JK. Dobbins and Mike Weber in their backfield. I 1047 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 3: love Dwayne Haskins, I love this receiving corps, but I 1048 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 3: think Purdue is able to possess it long enough to 1049 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 3: keep it close. So once again thirty three twenty one, 1050 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: Ohio State wins fairly comfortably, but Purdue, much like Minnesota 1051 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: last week, Indiana the week before that. 1052 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 2: Just hangs around, hangs around. Huh yeah. Okay. 1053 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 1: And finally, before we get to some rapid fire games, 1054 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: as we're running a little long in the tooth with 1055 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: the show eight pm, pac twelve Network, USC at Utah. 1056 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,040 Speaker 1: The line here six and a half in favor of 1057 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: the Utes. Since Utah lost at Wazoo, they have been 1058 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,399 Speaker 1: outstanding on offense. So I'm not gonna elaborate too much 1059 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: more on this one. I think it's pretty straightforward you 1060 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 1: combine that with their defense and the fact that USC 1061 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: has looked overwhelmed in spots this year against lesser defenses, 1062 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: I think that gives Utah a clear edge here. So 1063 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: I like them at home to both win and cover. 1064 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in having two dimensions on offense 1065 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 3: going to a place a difficult place to play with 1066 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 3: a difficult defense on the other side. In USC, for 1067 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: whatever reason, I don't know if it's an offensive line thing. 1068 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a running back comfort thing. 1069 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a just general offensive comfort thing. 1070 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 3: They're not running the ball anywhere near where they should 1071 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 3: be given the talent on hand, and we saw that 1072 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 3: struggle against Colorado, we saw it against Texas. They are 1073 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 3: one of the worst running teams in the Pac twelve, 1074 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 3: which is still very strange for me to say. Luckily, 1075 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 3: their defense is excellent. I think they're going to hold 1076 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: down Utah well enough. But I'm just not a believer 1077 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 3: and going with one dimension there without potentially I think 1078 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 3: their best defensive player with Port Augustin now I believe 1079 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 3: out for the year injured, and you know they've been 1080 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 3: beat up in other places. The defense obviously looked terrific 1081 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: against Colorado, so maybe they won't miss him as much 1082 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 3: as they would have a few weeks ago. I have 1083 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 3: Utah winning a close one at home. I think right 1084 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 3: now there's just a little more to like about the 1085 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 3: Utes I have at thirty four to thirty one. All right, 1086 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 3: we disagree, So I guess USC is covering right favor 1087 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 3: about a touchdown? 1088 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, USC would cover in that scenario. 1089 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have you. I'm taking sc to cover. 1090 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 3: It's this game always feels very close and strange. So 1091 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: give me the Trojans to cover. Utah sneaks away with it. 1092 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 2: All right? Six games rapid fire here if we could. 1093 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: Yes, twelve pm ESPN U Cincinnati undefeated Cincinnati on the 1094 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: road at the Temple Owl pointspread here is four points. 1095 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to go Temple outright at home. 1096 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 2: Give me the Owl agree. 1097 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm call in in my pick for Jeff call In's 1098 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 3: and the Temple Owls. Give me Temple. Cincinnati's defense has 1099 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 3: been really, really strong. 1100 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,760 Speaker 1: Three thirty ESPN two Wake Forest at Florida State. Florida 1101 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: State is a ten point favorite. 1102 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 2: Tan who you got? 1103 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take fsu here at home. I don't think 1104 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 3: they're particularly good, but we know wake Forest's like bottom 1105 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: bottom bottom seller, and it's probably still worse after seeing 1106 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 3: what they look like against Clemson than Florida State. So 1107 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 3: I think Florida State wins this one twenty seven to ten. 1108 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 4: We agree. 1109 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: Moving on three thirty Big Ten Network Minnesota at Nebraska. 1110 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: Nebraska actually favored here, though not by as much as 1111 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: originally when the line opened at five. It's down to 1112 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: three and a half. Dan. Does Scott Frost get his 1113 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: first win in a Nebraska coaching uniform? 1114 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: Much maligned Scott Frost? Can he get it done this 1115 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 3: week against p J Fleck al the goovers? Yes, I 1116 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 3: think Adrian Martin tas. I mean Minnesota's strength on defense 1117 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 3: is probably upfront, getting both getting to the quarterback and 1118 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,439 Speaker 3: stopping ground games. We saw Carter Kaughlin do a great 1119 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 3: job against Ohio State last week. I think Nebraska comes 1120 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 3: through at home, puts up a big day through the air, 1121 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 3: and they hold on and get the win against Goldie 1122 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 3: the Gopher. 1123 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: We agree once more. Four PM SEC Network Memphis at Missouri. 1124 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: This line up to nine and a half in favor 1125 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: of the Tigers. The Missouri Tigers, Yes, you know, my drill. 1126 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: Take the points in a shootout, especially if it's over 1127 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think a lot of points in this game. 1128 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: I would expect a lot of passing yards on both 1129 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: sides of this one. Don't know who wins. I'm assuming 1130 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: Missouri probably wins, but nine and a half points is 1131 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: an awful lot. Give me Memphis plus the points. 1132 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, two teams coming off of I mean games against 1133 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 3: national champions from last year and you see f and Alabama. Yeah, 1134 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to take the points as well, buddy, this 1135 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 3: game is going to have points. 1136 00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: You know it? Okay? 1137 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: Seven thirty Network Vandy at Kentucky. Kentucky an eleven point favorite. 1138 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: I love Kentucky's defense. I'm unclear on the offense. I 1139 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: know that Vandy's got a little bit of a pluckiness 1140 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: pluckiness quotient to them, excuse me, So I'm gonna go 1141 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: Vandy plus the points here, though I think Kentucky wins. 1142 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kentucky comfortably wins this game. They they're 1143 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 3: gonna be led by what they're always led, which is 1144 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 3: Benny Snell and the defense. So I'm gonna take Kentucky. 1145 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 3: Kentucky coming off of a bye. 1146 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 2: Correct Kentucky coming off a bye yes. 1147 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 3: Yes, so I think that adds up to a nice win. Yeah, 1148 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 3: they were off after their overtime lost sex A and 1149 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 3: m so give me the Cats. 1150 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: And finally ten thirty ESPN two, Arizona at Ucla. 1151 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: Ucla a seven point favorite. 1152 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 3: Here, Dan at home? Who you got, I'm gonna take 1153 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 3: the Bruins. Arizona is not in a good place. You 1154 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 3: know who Arizona starting quarterback now is with Khalil Tate 1155 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 3: out injured. Rhett Rodriguez okay, son of Rich Rodriguez. 1156 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 2: That's a little awkward. 1157 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 3: I hope it's not awkward. I hope everybody gets along. 1158 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 3: I hope everything's cool. He did come in in relief, 1159 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 3: I believe against Utah, and you know, showed some some moxie. 1160 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 3: But I think Ucla at home, God, you seel like 1161 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: suddenly favored. They win once they're like, oh yeah, we're 1162 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 3: a touchdown better than somebody. Yeah, I'm gonna go to 1163 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 3: the Bruins here. I think they're coming together. And it's 1164 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: something we said before the season started. They're gonna be bad, 1165 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 3: but by the end of the year you might see 1166 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: some flashes. I think Arizona is a great flash school. 1167 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, before we go any further, my lock of 1168 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the week, Yes, luck of the Week. I've been taking 1169 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: some time here to suss all this out. I'm gonna 1170 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: go Oklahoma minus the points on the road at TCU. 1171 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lock up Washington. 1172 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Luck of the week. 1173 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: All right, Dan, Sorry, free range Colorado fans, I apologize, 1174 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 3: by the way, Tay, Yeah, and this is this is 1175 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 3: not where you think I'm going. A couple more interesting games, Okay, 1176 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 3: let's real quick. Virginia and Duke ACC Coastal on the line, 1177 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 3: ACC coastal implications, Duke's favored by seven, that that division 1178 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 3: is wit open. Yeah, Navy's hosting Houston. I'm still a 1179 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 3: huge believer in Derrek King for Houston and the Cougars, 1180 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 3: I do not believe Houston has scored fewer than forty 1181 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: points in a game this year. 1182 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: Amazing, bad, amazing, not bad. 1183 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 3: They're probably one of the best five scoring offenses in 1184 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 3: the country. And finally, just in terms of FBS games 1185 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 3: of interest, North Texas and they're kind of out of 1186 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 3: nowhere at least to me. Incredible defense going to UAB. 1187 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 3: Both these schools with only one loss in terms of 1188 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 3: really fun group of five action. This is this is 1189 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 3: right at the top and finally quick favor. 1190 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Tie yes anything? 1191 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 3: Will you drop that big stanky, creamy contorting come hither 1192 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 3: drum and five? 1193 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 2: That came off the swivel a little bit, Dan, just 1194 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1195 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 3: I brought it. I brought it back. I started with 1196 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 3: com I came back with hither. 1197 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: It's okay, where are we going? 1198 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 3: It was all very victorian h Lafayette one and five, 1199 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 3: two losses, no wins in the pat League going to Bucknell, 1200 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 3: who they themselves are one and six high. Do you 1201 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 3: believe Lafay against the first Pat League victory? 1202 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,919 Speaker 1: I gotta go Lafayette here because you know, I never 1203 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 1: go with the Nellies. But I'm struck by the fact 1204 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: that there are two wins and eleven losses collectively between 1205 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: these two loser programs. Wow, no Patriot League, Dan, So 1206 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Lafayette. 1207 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Someone's got to win. 1208 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Leopard up Bryant four and two. Going to Fordham here 1209 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 3: in the Bronx one and five. Fordham is Bryant once again? 1210 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 3: Four and two? Are you going with the records here? 1211 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 3: You think Fordham, who just slaughtered Lehigh last week. I 1212 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 3: gotta go bet Rhythm. 1213 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go Bear Bryant here for four and two 1214 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: on the road Fordham not quite what it's been. 1215 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Kobe Lee High one in five, going two. 1216 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 3: Let's just assume the Hornet's nest that is multi sport field, 1217 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 3: three and four, two and zero in the pat League, Ty, 1218 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: who do you have? 1219 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 2: I gotta go Georgetown here. 1220 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: You don't just go down to multi sport field, Dan, Actually, 1221 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's called multi sports. 1222 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, but we have not gotten confirmation on that. 1223 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: And as we pointed out on Twitter many weeks ago, 1224 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: many moons ago, it's not gonna be something other than 1225 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: multi sport field if we just flat out refuse to 1226 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge it, that's exactly right for us. It's always multi 1227 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: sport field. Just like the House of Pain will never die. 1228 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: So give me the Hoyas at home over. 1229 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nobody calls like where the Phoenix Suns play 1230 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 3: it talking stick resorts. Nobody says, oh, you're going down 1231 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 3: to the TSR tonight? Now, No, that's that just going 1232 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 3: to the stadium, going to a multi sport field. Should 1233 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: mention no Coldgate this week no, you know we touchdowns 1234 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 3: Colgate is allowed this year. 1235 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 2: I do not wow. 1236 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Two touchdowns good Coldgate beat Alabama on the next. 1237 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 3: Show, Colgate. Colgate is six and zero the combined rest 1238 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 3: of the PAT League. We're talking six other teams. 1239 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 2: We talked about this last week. 1240 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 3: It's amazing, I know, but here's your check in Colgate 1241 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 3: six wins, the entirety of the rest of the Pat 1242 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 3: League eight wins. 1243 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1244 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, Colgate's in control. 1245 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: A very weird scheduling situation to only three games this 1246 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: week involving PAT League teams. I believe in a conference 1247 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: that has what seven teams total? 1248 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, seven teams total. Colgate Georgetown. That's if you're 1249 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 3: circling anything. That's October twenty seven, so that'd be next 1250 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 3: weekend is basically your Pat League super Bowl. Short of 1251 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 3: Lafy at Lehigh, which is not gonna be great. 1252 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: We can only assume that our boy Ken Greeley will 1253 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: be there. So a couple real quick things. Yeah, I've 1254 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 1: been trying to do this now. I was negligent in 1255 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: my duties here as the head hop fensive coordinator. I've 1256 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: been doling out responsibility to people who call in here 1257 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: is one with a bit of a West Coast flavor 1258 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: to it. 1259 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 4: Have a listen, Hey guys, this is Nick, this week's 1260 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 4: hopfensive coordinator. There's no better way to celebrate game day 1261 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 4: heading out to the blues in Washington State and Oregon 1262 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 4: without some quality Pacific Northwestern beer. This week's pick is 1263 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 4: Bricksides wonder lest IPA. With the seasons changing, we should 1264 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 4: start thinking about moving away from IPAs. But you know what, 1265 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 4: the heck, let's get one last ride in with Brandon 1266 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 4: McKissick and something that has lots of tropical citacy notes. However, 1267 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 4: I do have to warn you you might have a 1268 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 4: little bit of trouble finding this outbeast because Pac twelve 1269 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 4: football is just like Pac twelve beer, poorly distributed. 1270 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: That's a good line there, good close line by our 1271 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Week eight hopfensive coordinator. Again, you can call as call 1272 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: in the beer. During the week four Waid verbal one 1273 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: do our best two play. 1274 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 3: It that we do Pacific Darth Wes last week as 1275 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 3: well with Washington Organ with the red hook. 1276 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah we had we had a flannel Friday as well 1277 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 2: as I believe a red hook selection. 1278 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, all right, I don't. I don't know 1279 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 3: my beer. I don't know Northwest, but I think the 1280 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 3: shoots the. 1281 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Shoots a big one. 1282 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 3: It's an Oregon brewery. I believe that's an Oregon brewery. 1283 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 3: Well it's Oregon. The organ duck's going to to Washington State. Listen. 1284 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,959 Speaker 3: I wish I knew, but you know what, Ty, most 1285 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 3: beer is good. 1286 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. Okay, thank you for calling in. Don't 1287 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: forget there is still time. I had a bit of 1288 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: a snaff who a week ago with our pickam pool. 1289 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Completely my fault, but you can get in on it 1290 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 1: as you can every week for free go to Solid 1291 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: verbal dot com slash pick Them, p I c k 1292 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: em Solid Verbal dot Com slash Pick Them. Our friends 1293 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: over at chalk Line do a marvelous job putting together 1294 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: our weekly pick Them game. Most of the games, if 1295 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: not all, the games that we discussed here on the program, 1296 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: will be on that You're ten game card. I believe 1297 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: ten games this week, so all of them are gonna 1298 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: be on there. Give you a little bit of a preview. 1299 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully it can be useful for you and also Dan, 1300 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: I believe we're getting ready to release some new apparel. 1301 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 2: If memory serves. 1302 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 3: We are finally, finally, finally with our friends at Cotton Bureau, 1303 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 3: who have been nice enough to be patient with me 1304 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 3: as I finally decided to learn the intricacies of photoshop 1305 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 3: and illustrator. Yeah, we're releasing this is still our team 1306 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 3: related school town related stuff that we're releasing with our 1307 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 3: friends at Cotton Bureau. So exciting stuff. And I think 1308 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 3: we'll also release maybe one of the newer shirts that 1309 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 3: we did in our last our last go rounds. Yeah, 1310 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 3: maybe they'll letdown look Ahead Sandwich one. 1311 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can figure that out. But if 1312 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: you haven't already subscribed to the newsletter, it's out on 1313 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: our website, solid verbal dot com. You can find it there. 1314 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Please do tell your friends as you're out and about 1315 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: this weekend, try and recruit someone new to the Verbal Yeah, 1316 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: tweet us, have them email us, just get in touch 1317 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: with us. Of course, the more the merrier here on 1318 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: the program, we're going to be back live and living color, 1319 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: or at least as live as we can be in 1320 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: a podcast format when we record our week eight recap 1321 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 1: show on Sunday morning, one more time, we'd encourage you 1322 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: all to give us call it four oh eight verbal one. 1323 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 1: It's four oh eight eight three seven two two five one. 1324 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Shoot us an email Solverba at gmail dot com. Check 1325 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: us out on social media as ever on Facebook, on Twitter, 1326 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and on uh on the Gram on Instagram, Man. 1327 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 4: Do it? 1328 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 3: Send? Send us pictures of your tailgater you're cooking? 1329 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck? 1330 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 3: I want to see some food. I want to see 1331 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:41,799 Speaker 3: some activity. 1332 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Tag us in those pictures, whether it's on Twitter or 1333 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: on the Gram. A Graham's story, it's like all the 1334 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,560 Speaker 1: rage now with the kids as us. A mention absolutely 1335 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1336 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,799 Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hildenbrandt, enjoy the rest of your week, 1337 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend. We'll talk to you all on Sunday. 1338 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: In the meantime, you know the deal, Stay solid. 1339 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 4: Peace. M