1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm missing five year old 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: girl presumably in danger, Little Malia Davis, her stepfather, Darien Vince. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: His story to police details a violent attack and a 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hour period where he was not conscious. It 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: begins Friday evening around nine. Vince tells police he was 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: headed to pick up Malia's mother from Bush Airport. He 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: says he pulled over in near fifty nine and Greens 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: to check what he thought was a flat tire. Vince 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: told detectives three Hispanic men pulled up in a blue 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Chevy pickup chuck to Hispanic males get out. One of 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: them makes a comment saying that Malia looks very nice, 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: looks very sweet. The other male hits Darien in the head. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Vince says he was knocked unconscious and the next twenty 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: four hours he recalls nothing. You're hearing the very latest 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: on Malia Davis, a four year old girl that was 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: at a KTRKTV. Malia Davis still missing. I'm Nancy Grace, 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: Straight out to Lee Egan, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: the story stinks to me, There's something wrong with the story. 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: The dad says the step dad, Darien Vince says that 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: he's on the way the airport to pick up the 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: mom and he here's what he thinks, it's a flat 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: tire and gets out. What happens then Lee Well, he says, 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: he gets out of the car. Nancy and three Hispanic 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: men pull up to him in a blue Chevrolet pickup 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: truck and start making comments about how pretty Malia is, 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: how sweet he is, and then they end up hitting 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: him in the head and knocking him out, putting him 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: in his little boy in the dead of the truck, 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: and at some point they end up driving back to 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: where they hit him in the head and dropping him 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: off in the same area and then driving away with Malia. 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: They leave him and his little boy toddler boy two 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: years old, leave him in the little boy there and 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: drive away with Malia. That's a story. Take a listen 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: to our France at KTRK three pm Saturday, A surveillance 37 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and then shows Vince's car in Sugarland six pm Saturday, 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Vince tells police he woke up on the side up 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: Highway six near the Sugarland Mall, his one year old 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: son with him, but no Malia. He tells police he 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: tried to flag down cars for help but had no luck. 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Just before eleven pm is when police say he made 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: it to Methodist Hospital, less than a mile from where 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: he says he was dropped off. We're looking for it. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: We're hoping the public and years any information about anybody 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: who has seen Darien during that period of time, because 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't really know where he was or what's going 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: on there. Anybody who's seen the vehicle, the silver Nissan Darion. 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Vence told investigators he was driving to Bush Intercontinental Airport 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: to pick up Malia's mom. Vence says Malia and his 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: two year old son were in the car while near 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Highway fifty nine in Green's Road. Vince told police he 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: heard a noise and pulled over to check his tire. 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: While outside the car, he says two men pulled up 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: in a blue Chevy pickup. One of them makes a 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: comment saying that Malia looks very nice, looks very sweet. 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Then says one of the men hit him in the 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: head and he lost consciousness. Friday night, Malia's mother had 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: to call someone else to pick her up. When Vince 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: and the children never showed up sometime between Friday night 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: or Saturday. Vin says he woke up and was in 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: the back of the pickup with both children, but three 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: men were also in the car. He told police he 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: passed out again and woke up at six pm Saturday 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: near Highway six and fifty nine in Sugarland. His son 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: was with him, Malia was gone. So mysteriously, He's got 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: his own biological son, but his stepdaughter, Malia Davis, a 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: four year old, beautiful old girl, is missing. Here's khoutv 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Vince says he walked down the road to Methodist Hospital, 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: where he was treated for a head injury, and reported 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Malia missing, nearly twenty four hours after the alleged assault 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: that left Vince unconscious. I realize there's a lot of 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: blanks in that story, but we're open on the public 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: can filling the blanks. Sunday morning, Malia's case became an 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Amber alert. That afternoon, traffic cameras spotted Vince's silver car 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: in sugar Land near where the family and friends handed 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: out flyers, followed by search and recovery groups starting their work. 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Monday morning. KTRKTV Steve Campion talking with a victims hero 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Texas Equi Search Tim Miller. Within the last ninety minutes, 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: the search for Malia Davis shifted more than thirty miles 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: away to southwest Houston, near Kirkwood and Bissonnatna. We are 82 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: in trouble. Bottom line, we're in trouble. I've had of course, 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: I believe in miracles, and we've hadden many of them. 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to have a good ending. 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I hope we have an enemy. The group helping Houston 86 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: police look for the missing four year old girl is 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Texas Equi Search. Their leader, Tim Miller, says they repositioned 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: close to where the stepfather, Darion Vince calls home. We 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: hope Mark calls come in as leading us in different corrections. 90 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: We hope the investigation is going to lead us, sir, 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: and it's so it's all about her and joining me 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: right now, the founder and director of Texas Equisearch, Tim Miller. 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Tim Miller, it doesn't make sense to me. You and 94 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I've talked quite a bit about this particular case, Malia's disappearance. 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: You're telling me and you've been on the ground, looking 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: in the air, looking with dogs, looking for Maliah, that 97 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: they you seem to suggest to me that they take 98 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the three Hispanic mills, take dear Vince in a big 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: loop and then bring him right back to where they 100 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: attacked him. Yeah, I bring him right back. And he's 101 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: at the corner fifty nine and Highway six, which is 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: a very busious intersection in sugar Land, trying to flag 103 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: somebody down. And he claims he walked to the hospital. 104 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: But you know, we've got a little hole in that 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: story to his vehicle that dropped him off at the hospital. Okay, whoa, whoa, 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: whoa whoa Wait, wait, way, wait a minute, Tim Miller, 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: he said nobody would help him. He had his son. 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: You can see the hospital video of him walking in 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: with the one year old son. What did you just 110 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: say about a car dropping him off? Hey, car dropped 111 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: him off? That certainly resembles the car that supposedly was 112 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: missing and then found. That's Thursday. And actually when they 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: interviewed his brother Joe, they asked, Joe, can you explain 114 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: why he was dropped off in his vehico and his 115 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: brother Joe says, well, I'm just not going to comment 116 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: on that right now, So I guess they gave him 117 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: his car back. I'm not really sure, You mean the 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: perpetrators that take for your old Maliah and dud. God 119 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: only knows what with her, drop him off, give him 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: curb service to John Cardillo joining me former NYPD John Cardillo. 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Outside of emergency rooms and hospitals, there is almost always 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: video surveillance cameras. Why because a lot of crimes are 123 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: solved at emergency rooms in hospital people being dropped off 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: by fellow gang members after a shooting. You want to 125 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: get that license plate number, But for this kind of 126 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: material evidence, right a vehicle that that a potential suspect 127 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: said might have been somewhere else caught on that camera, 128 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I would suspect this story has so many holes in 129 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: it that if I were the investigator on this case, 130 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I would have this guy in an interrogation room night 131 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: and day until we figured out what happened here. Man, 132 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: his story stinks, Tim Miller, tell me what you have 133 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: been doing to find Melia if you can fit it 134 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: all in. Oh God, we have searched everywhere that we 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: know where to search, starting out where he claims this happened, 136 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: moved down by his a parliament went to sugar Land, 137 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: starf to sugar Land. We actually meant was postal inspectors, 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: which he did have a mail route down in the 139 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Rosharan area. We got to wait. Let me stop you 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: right there, Tim Miller. You know I get carried away 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and I break in. I know it's true, but I've 142 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: just got to stop you right now, because, as you know, 143 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Darry and Vince, the stepfather's father, is stating that's not true. 144 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: His son did not have a mail route. That that's 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: all fabricated by the corps. As a matter of fact, 146 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: listen to stepfather, Darry and Vince's father, when he went 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: out that first night to look for Malia, he got 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: mobs and then he didn't Yeah, and then he didn't understand. 149 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: He didn't trust her or her baby father because they 150 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: came to him a real crazy. Vince also claims blood 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,359 Speaker 1: tied to Malia founded his son's apartment hallway and bathroom 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: and used to justify Darien's arrest came from another child. 153 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: It's her brother's blood from his tooth breasts. Detectives insist 154 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: they tested for family DNA and stand by their warrant. 155 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: They also stand by last week's search of a field 156 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: along Darien's old post office route never worked them on 157 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a post ever in his life. But Darien's dad says 158 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: the sign worked just three days for the post office 159 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: through a tim service and never had one. You're hearing 160 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: our friends at Khou, Tim Miller, you hear his bio 161 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: dad saying that's not true. It's all a big lie. 162 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: Tell me how you verified he did have a mail route. 163 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: We actually met was two postal inspectors that came out there. 164 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: They gave us his mail route exactly where he delivered mail, 165 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: and every said that he was a head nearly a year. 166 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: So we didn't not direct from a postal inspectors. So 167 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that they are sabricating this story. I 168 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: find it very difficult to believe to doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, 169 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: post of Fatal Vows Hit series on investigation, Discovery, and 170 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: author that a postal inspector is gonna lie to Tim 171 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: Miller about Darien Vince working there. What he doesn't have 172 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: a dog in the fight, He's got no skin in 173 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: the game. Why would he lie to Tim Miller? Yeah? 174 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I agree, he wouldn't you know. As soon as I 175 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: heard about this, it gave me shades of Susan Smith, 176 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: remember her the woman, Yeah, I remember her. Yeah. So 177 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: bottom line, Tim Miller, when you approach the postial inspector 178 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: and you go, did darry In Vince ever work for you? 179 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Did you show him a picture? You sure he knew 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: who dry In Vince is? He knew exactly who he was. 181 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: And then we actually talked to somebody at the post 182 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: office and they said that they terminated him because he 183 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: just liked to hang out and smoke cigarettes more than 184 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: concentrate on his job. So, you know, it's pretty apparent 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: that everybody in this family is not capable of telling 186 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: the truth, and there's only one person that can tell 187 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the truth. And unfortunately weaken enough behind her crime stories 188 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace never worked them on a post route 189 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: ever in his life. There you hear the stepfather, Darien 190 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: Vince's father, Joe Vince, denying his son even ever worked 191 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: as a mail carrier. Why is that significant that he 192 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: did work as a mail carrier for well over a year? 193 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Tim Miller joining me, founder director of Texas Equisearch. When 194 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: a child goes missing, you know Tim Miller will show 195 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: up with all of his forces. I'm talking horseback ATVs 196 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: air search as cadaver dogs sent dogs. Somehow he assembles 197 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: them all. Tim Miller, why is it so significant that 198 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: we nailed down the truth about this mail route? Well, 199 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I think we nailed it down from the postal inspectors 200 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: and him, and besides that, Nancy quin Lex called me 201 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: up and he was actually with Brittany, and I told 202 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: quin Eli, said, Quinnell, and this is before we went 203 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: with Postal inspectors. Cornel, we understand that he had a 204 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: male route down in the Roe Sharon area and he 205 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: was actually west Brittany. So he asked Brittany if he 206 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: had a mail route, and Brittany said, yeah, he had 207 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: a male route. And so I asked Cornell, I said, 208 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: asked her he knows the route that he had that 209 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: scen area. I think we want to start searching. And 210 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: she said that she did not know the route that 211 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: he had, but one of her girlfriends actually rode with 212 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: him one time on the route. So he would get 213 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: with that girlfriend to if he remembered the route. And 214 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: then we got with the post office and then watch 215 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: Andy gout with a postal inspectors. So according to Brittany, 216 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: yes he had a mail route. According to the postal inspectors, 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: yes he had a mail route, so apparently n didn't 218 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: know what was going on in his son's life. The 219 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: significance of the stepdad having a male route, John Cardillo 220 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: from an NYPD, Why is it so important? Well, it 221 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: goes to credibility. I mean, if everybody's lying about it, 222 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you know what? Cardillo no, because that mail route takes 223 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: him all the way through the swampy or wooded areas 224 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: in rochharon as to hide a body. Hello, quing ang 225 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: with myself. Somebody helped me. Well, what I'm saying is 226 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: but you gotta start somewhere, right, So first it goes 227 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: to credibility. You were a prosecutor, you need probable cause. 228 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: You might have to get a warrant. If in those 229 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: desolate areas there's a mini storage facility where you find 230 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that on his mail route he paid for cash at 231 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: a mini storage, Well, then you're gonna need a warrant 232 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: to be able to crack that lock open to use 233 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: those bolt cutters. So first you got to start with 234 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: his credibility. That's a pretty bold and egregious lie that 235 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: he claimed that he didn't have a job, and his 236 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: family's claiming he didn't have a job, that he did 237 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: then you do what, Tim, did you go along that route, 238 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: which I suspect investigators are doing now because there was 239 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: very telling language and a clip you played. He's being 240 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: charged with tampering with a core. So they're running on 241 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: the premise that the little girl is now deceased. Investigators 242 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: are going to go through every inch of that mail route. 243 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: They're going to look for those deserted areas. They're going 244 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: to look for those mini storage facilities, abandoned warehouses, abandoned buildings. 245 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: But if there's anything locked, you need a warrant. So 246 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: you got to start with this credibright And that's why 247 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: I started there, Tim Miller, he's got a good point. 248 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Tell me, but what you found on the mail route? Oh, 249 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: we found many, many isolated areas, and we've searched him 250 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: some on we have to search again because unfortunately, after 251 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Lonely disappeared, we had a tremendous amount of rain. Some 252 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: areas we could not get to. And you know the 253 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: other thing is that we know when he's left he 254 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: had that bloom closed basket with a garbage bag in 255 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: it that we feel as though that was there. And 256 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: then we've got the vehicle located we're closed. Basket was 257 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: still in a new gas can, Lee Egan. Tim Miller 258 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: is talking about a blue closed basket and a plastic bag. 259 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Let's just go back now off the mail route and 260 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: to the apartment. Tell me what happened, okay, May third, 261 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: he was seeing he was seen by himself walking out 262 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: of his apartment holding a blue clothes basket. Inside the 263 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: basket was a large black trash bag and according to 264 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: what police said, the way he was walking made it 265 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: seem like he was carrying something pretty heavy in that bag. 266 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this, police said. The defendant told 267 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: them that there should not be any blood in his apartment. 268 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: The officer reviewed video surveillance then from the porch of 269 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the neighbor's apartment next to the defense apartment, and the 270 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: footage showed that on at one forty pm on Friday, 271 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: made a third that they recognized the defendant carrying out 272 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: from the apartment outside the apartment from inside to outside 273 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: a large blue laundry basket with a large black trash 274 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: bag inside that it seemed to walk out of the 275 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: camera's view and then return about three minutes later without 276 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: the basket. He's that observed walking out of the apartment 277 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: with cleaning supplies, including bleach. They did not do the 278 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: complainant ever leaving the apartment. They did see the defendant 279 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: leave later with only his two year old son from 280 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: the apartment. Tim Miller, founder and director of Texas EQUA 281 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: search where did that basket, That blue laundry basket turnout 282 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: turned up in the trunk of a car of b 283 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: car along with a brand new gas came in it 284 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: that he had just a smidget of gas. So of 285 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: course when I was flying then lay was searching and 286 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: one of the things we're looking for was any areas 287 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that looked like it was burned. It's we feel as 288 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: out now that's very possible that he burned that little body. 289 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Take a listen to law enforcement now. On Friday made 290 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: a tenth the silver Nissan Ultima driven by the defendant 291 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: was process for evidence that there was a blue laundry 292 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: basket seller in parents to the blue laundry basket that 293 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: he's observed on the video surveillance carrying out of the 294 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: department on the night of the third. There were canine 295 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: dogs that were trained to sniff the scent of a 296 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: cadaver that walked around the vehicle and other vehicles in 297 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: the parking lot, and both of the dogs reacted to 298 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: the trunk of the silver Nissan that the defendant had 299 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: driven and that the blue laundry basket was recovered from, 300 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: indicating that the dogs were responding to the scent of 301 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: decomposition unity composition in the vehicle. Now they looked high 302 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: and low for the car before it was found. Even 303 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: the evidence surrounding the car doesn't make any sense. Dearian 304 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: Van says he was attacked when he got out of 305 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: the car with a flat tire. The car turns up 306 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: alone and abandoned a parking lot, But as Tim Miller 307 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: pointed out to you, hospital surveillance shows the step dad 308 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: was dropped off in the very same car. Listen to 309 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Detective Ken in Free Asia. Well, we've had a bowl 310 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: out on the car, hoping we'd find him with it. 311 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: We've obviously found the car, but yeah, we're still looking 312 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: for him right now. The car looks fine. The car. 313 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: Everything looks normal on the car. The tires look look okay, 314 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they weren't changed at some point. I don't know. 315 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't have anything on that really citizens solid car 316 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: called the local PD Missouri City or Sugar I think 317 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: it was Misisters City. They contacted us and we came 318 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: out here. We looked inside. We haven't done any any 319 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: searching for anything. If we just took a glance inside 320 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: because it was bright. The winners are semi tenant, and everything, 321 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: like I said, looked normal, like a normal call. The 322 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: trunk looks harmalt him? Did I see the keys in 323 00:18:48,040 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the car? Crime stories with Nancy Grace? Are you worried 324 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: that you can't find this man? If he considered the 325 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: person adventus, I would like to talk to him to 326 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: bed right now. UM, I'm not concerned that we haven't 327 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: found him. We're not. No, I'm not concerned about that 328 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: that saw him. You think you would think that if 329 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: you know your loved one is missing, that you would 330 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: be coming forward. And so he may have a legitimate reason. 331 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I haven't spoken with him right now. We're still trying 332 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: to pull that and see what the angles of the 333 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: cameras are. UM. I have not personally viewed those. So UM. 334 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: That's we have officers in these in these businesses looking 335 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: at see there's any cameras focused on the parking lot, 336 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and of course if there is, we're gonna backtrack and 337 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: get everything we can. I can't speak. The trunks just 338 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: miscellaneous clothes, papers, It's clean car, is there? Till yeah, 339 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I think I can believe us. I'll want to know you. Wow, 340 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Detective Ken Vijia at oppressor. I Nancy Grace is his 341 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: crime stories. Thank you for being with us. Where is 342 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: four year old Malia Davis? As the trail gone cold? 343 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: With me? Tim Miller, Founder director of Texas Equisurch. You 344 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: just heard the detective say that the car looked normal, 345 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: But that's not what your cadaver dog said. Uh No, 346 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: cadaver dogs actually alerted on the trunk of the car. 347 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: Now and your expertise, Tim Miller. I've worked with a 348 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of cadaver dogs as recently as last week. There 349 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: are many ways of a learning. They may sit down 350 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: when they smell something. They may start barking and growling 351 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: and scratching in a particular spot. They have different ways 352 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: of a learning. But you're telling me, Tim Miller, you 353 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: know for a fact cadaver were dogs hit on Darry 354 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: and Vince's car. That is the information I got from 355 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: homicide investigators. Wow, yeah that is I wasn't there, but yes, 356 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: that's the information that I got from homocide, Lee Egan. 357 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: That is a major that changes the entire focus of 358 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: this investigation. And another thing, Hold on, Lee, let me 359 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: go to doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, host of Fatal 360 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Vows On Investigation, Discovery, author, Stop Moaning start owning on Amazon, 361 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Brian, Why didn't he go straight to police after 362 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: his pit stop at the hospital. Did you hear the 363 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: detectives saying, yeah, I'd like to talk to the stepfather, 364 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: Darry and Vince. We haven't found him. Why wasn't he 365 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: at the police station lying on the front steps screaming 366 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: where is my stepdaughter? Well? Exactly, it's one of those 367 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: those situations where it doesn't take a PhD to think 368 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: about what would I do if I were truly in 369 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: the situation that he says he was in too. John Cardillo, 370 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: former NYPD, what do you make of what Miller is 371 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: telling you? Well, I've learned a long time ago, don't 372 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: second guess the dogs. These dogs typically when they hit 373 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: on something. And if homicide investigators are going to be 374 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: comfortable enough saying the cadaver dogs hit, then those dogs 375 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: hit on something. And now this investigation is taking a 376 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: considerably different turn. This is going to be a recovery 377 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: and I believe a homicide investigation at this point. You know, 378 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: you've looked everywhere to Miller, even at a haunted house 379 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: out in Rosher in Texas. Why at a haunted house, 380 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like a Halloween haunted house. Well, 381 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: that area was actually very very close to his Male 382 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: routes famous where it's a lot of property out there. 383 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: You can drive in many areas and it's very isolated, 384 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: and Summer was an area we felt a though that 385 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: that we've had to eliminate were I've got a couple 386 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: of people out today. We're getting some calls in that 387 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: feel as though that they've seen a vehicle like that. 388 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: So even though we don't have a big search going on, 389 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: we are every day have people out there that's driving 390 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: looking at areas, following these leads how to talk with 391 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: homicide at least twice a day, and uh, you know 392 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: the unfortunately, you know, I'm almost at that point of thinking, 393 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: possibly this is a little girl. It's never going to 394 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: be found. We know where she's not, and we just 395 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: hope that one what comes in, that one call comes 396 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: in and we can get a little body located. Tell 397 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: me why you believe Malia's body was burned. Well, I 398 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: think every indication is there. I mean, everything's been alive 399 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: from the beginning, seeing him go out with a closed 400 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: basket with a good you know, the blood in the apartment. 401 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, things just don't add up. But you know, 402 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: we're not. I think the biggest miracle that we can 403 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: hope for is to find that little body. And of 404 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: course I'm getting crucified because people were saying and THEO. 405 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, you had over four thousand people in the 406 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: search for little Kayley Anthony. Because this is a little 407 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: black girl, you kind of halfway suspended it. But we've 408 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: got to remember on Casey Anthony, we had phone things 409 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: that was going all over the place for you know, 410 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: thirty plus days, and we had things to do. We 411 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: don't have anything on this stance. We don't have anything, 412 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: so we can't see the arrow in the sky and 413 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: where it comes down. Start searching. Take a listen thoughts 414 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: for Houston police, who refused to say whether they believe 415 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: twenty six year old Darien Vince killed Malia Davis. He 416 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: is charged with tampering with evidence, specifically a human body 417 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: A prosecutor says trained dogs detected the scent of human 418 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: decomposition in Vince's vehicle, and blood evidence matching the four 419 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: year old girl was found in his apartment. Vince told 420 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: police on May fourth, the men in a truck abducted him, 421 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Malia and his two year old son, and that these 422 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: men had freed him and the boy. On Sunday, a 423 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: crowd of more than a hundred people gathered near Malia's 424 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: home to express their concern about the girl's disappearance. Some parade. 425 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: Everybody wants the truth. We all want the truth, you know, 426 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: like they say the truitht you know? Or is she? 427 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: Or is she? So we could lare to rest you. 428 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Police have said they do not believe Malia is still alive. 429 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: They also say Darien Vince, the suspect, could face additional charges, 430 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: including murder. To Lee Egan joining me Crime Online dot 431 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, this is leading me to the apartment itself. 432 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: What do we know about the apartment? Darian Vince, a 433 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: stepdad share with Malia Davis four year old little girl, 434 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: his bioson between one and two years old, and the mom, 435 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: Britney Bowen. Well, if they shared an apartment together in 436 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Southwest Houston. It is a first floor apartment and it's 437 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: facing away either the security camera, you can see the apartment. 438 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: There's only one way out of that apartment for all 439 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: of them unless you go through a bedroom door window. 440 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: So they all showed the apartment together. And then within 441 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: a few days after Malia went missing disappeared, police did 442 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: go to that apartment and they did, you know, did 443 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: a thorough investigation, and they did find blood evidence inside 444 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the apartment that they matched back to Malia through her DNA, 445 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: through her tooth fresh too. John Cardillo, former NYPD I'm 446 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: surprised they waited days after her disappearance to process it. 447 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: But the reality is it doesn't matter because they found 448 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: blood evidence, blood that links back to Malia Davis. They 449 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: found the blood evidence, they now have the forensic evidence. 450 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: And going back to Tim's point, I think Tim is right, 451 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: and I understand why he's so frustrated because episearch has 452 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: had such tremendous success. The I feel the only way 453 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna find out what truly happened to this little 454 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: girl is through exhaustive, exhaustive interrogation of this guy. And 455 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: I suspect. Investigators have him in a room pretty much 456 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: every waking moment and beyond. You want him exhausted, You 457 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: want him hungry, You want him thirsty, You want him 458 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: essentially begging for a coke and a big mac. So 459 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: he'll give you something that'll indicate where you can find 460 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: this little girl's remains. Take a listen to Canal X. 461 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Many people did not know that he had dismembered this 462 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: beautiful baby. You said that in the interview. What makes 463 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: what makes you say that is what information are you 464 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: hearing then to say that, well, there was blood splatter 465 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: evidence in the apartment. There was luinar spray and chemical 466 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: spray that was all over the apartment after homicide investigators left. 467 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: When you look at the video, the video footage extensively, 468 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: you can tell what was going on, and you could 469 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: tell he made two trips to buy big bottles of bleach. 470 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: This was a man who never cleaned the house of eva, 471 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: but he's buying big bottles of bleach, getting a big 472 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: garbage back, and there's blood splatter, et cetera around a 473 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: drainage area of the house. Why would human body tissue 474 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: be in a draining system? Why would human body tissue 475 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: be in the pipes under the sink, in the pipes 476 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: under the bathtub. Why would that be? Why would that 477 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: be human body tissue found around? Increases in crux of 478 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: the balthe crime stories with Nancy Grace the courthouse, people 479 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: directed their anger towards Malia's mother, All eyes on Brittany 480 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Bowen's as she walked down the hall, non saying a word. Vince, 481 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: her ex fiance, did not appear. Critics questioning why she 482 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: would leave her little girl with a man she says 483 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: was dangerous. You have so many holes in your story. 484 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe you at all. I don't believe you. 485 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I will never believe you. You're just as guilty as him. 486 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: She needs to be locked up along with him. She 487 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: deserves to be locked up because that's not a real mother. 488 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: A real mother would protect their child at enemies necessary, 489 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: and she didn't do that. There are twenty eight hours 490 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: from a third to a fourth events is unaccounted for. 491 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: According to police, they believe he used that time to 492 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: dispose of the little girl's body, and all of this 493 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: as her mother was out of town. As parents, we 494 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: gotta be much wiser, you know, offered the paper. Whole 495 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: week shoals to put it in, you know, around our kids. 496 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: That is ABC thirteen Jessica Willie covering a protest at 497 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: the courthouse. Now, people lashing out not only at stepfather 498 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Dairy and Vince, as Tim Miller of Texas Sequal Search 499 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: and others continue to look for the little girl or 500 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: her body. People lashing out at the mother as well, 501 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: And maybe this has something to do with it. Listen, 502 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: you can't deny the here joy that jumps off of 503 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: four year old Malia's face in the pictures that have 504 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: been in the public eye since her disappearance, those were 505 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: perhaps the happier days. Court records we uncovered paint a 506 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: darker picture of the little girl's life over the last 507 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: several months. Documents we obtained from the Harris County Clerks 508 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: show that last August, the Department of Family and Protective 509 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Services received a report alleging physical abuse and neglectful supervision 510 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: of Malia. She was living with her mother, Brittany Bowens, 511 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and stepfather Darry and Vince at the time. The state 512 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: got involved after Malia's mother brought her to the hospital 513 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: with a head injury. Doctors had to do surgery to 514 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: remove half of her skull. When Malia got out of ICU, 515 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: doctors ordered that she wear a helmet for twelve to 516 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: twenty four months while she healed. But that was not 517 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Malia's first trip to the er. You're hearing our friend 518 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: Cheryl Mercedes at khou to Lee Egancrimalline dot Com investigative reporter. 519 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: What more do we know about this little girl's history 520 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: with Family Protective Services? I mean, she's only four years old. 521 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: That says four times twelve. That's only forty eight months, 522 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: So how can that be this many visits to the 523 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: doctor in the hospital. Well, all signs, in my opinion, 524 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: point to abuse. But of course Brittany says that that 525 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: never happened. She says that the little girl fell. She says, 526 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: she's at a chair and she's fill and hit her 527 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: head on a marble table. Now, CPS didn't go out 528 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: to their apartment, but the investigator did not measure the 529 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: height from the chair to the table, so we're not 530 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: sure you know how far she's fell. But either way, 531 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: doctors couldn't determine definitively that it was from a fall 532 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: or was it from abuse. They couldn't tell, so you know, 533 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: she had the operations of surgeries, and apparently Brittany completed 534 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: her parenting classes and they allowed the little girl to 535 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: temporarily go back to her home. Couldn't tell that is 536 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: a load of b s. Child Protective Services needs to 537 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: be strung up along with Darien Vince. Because you're sitting 538 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: in a chair, even a high chair, at most you 539 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: fall three feet. This child's head injury was so severe 540 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: she had swelling and bleeding on the brain. They had 541 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: to remove a big chunk of her skull and place 542 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: it either in a refrigerated or frozen atmosphere or in 543 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: her abdomen until the pressure could come off of her brain, 544 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: and then reattach it to her skull. That's how serious 545 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: the fall was. But this is what they say. According 546 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: to records, On July tenth, Bowens took Malia to the 547 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: er after she was throwing up blood. Doctor's reported Malia 548 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: was extremely lethargic. Malia was treated and sent home the 549 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: very next week. On July twenty eighth, Malia was back 550 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: in the hospital for a cut to her forehead. Medical 551 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: professionals reported she had blood just outside of her brain. 552 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Neither parent was able to tell doctors what could have 553 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: caused it, and says she was hurt after falling from 554 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: a chair, but medical professionals said that would not have 555 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: caused the serious internal injuries. Doctors reported they were concerned 556 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: about abuse, but in the end, the court found they 557 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: could not confirm whether or not those injuries were caused 558 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: by abuse. That's Cheryl Mercedes reporting out of KHOU. I 559 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: mean when I hear that, Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer, it 560 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: just hurts me because the doctors are saying, I don't 561 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: know how this could have happened by accident from a fall. 562 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: The doctors, the medical doctors are saying that. But CPS 563 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: pushed the child back in the home and now we 564 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: think she's been dismembered. Kathleen, it was clearly not properly investigated. 565 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: It was clearly not properly investigated. And this child is dead, Nancy. 566 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: This child is dead because of the court systems, because 567 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: of CPS, because of the mother, because of her boyfriend, 568 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: and because nobody stood up and stood up for this 569 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: child in a way that counted. She and her two 570 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: little siblings returned to the home per and order from 571 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: a judge. Tim Miller found a director of Texas Sex Research. 572 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: You're out there beating your brains out, sweating, wet in 573 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: the rain, digging through some remote mail route in East Houston, Texas. 574 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: You can't find anything. And now you know, a judge 575 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: and Child Protective Services handed this little girl back over 576 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: to the stepdad on a silver platter. Well, I think 577 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: CPS has blood out in their hands. I think a 578 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: judge has blood out his hands or her hands, whatever 579 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: judge it was. And that's another report that we got 580 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: is that when she did have that brain entry, that 581 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: Britney's mother came home and that baby was actually going 582 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: into seizures. And Brittney's mother is the one that said, Brittany, 583 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: you get this baby to the hospital. There's a child 584 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: that's having seizures. And stepdad and biological mom and i'd 585 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: even taken it to the emergency rule as Britney's mother said, 586 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: get that baby to the hospital. That baby probably would 587 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: have died if they wouldn't have been for Brittany's mother. 588 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: So they had to force the mom, talk the mom 589 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: into taking the baby to the hospital. Well, you know 590 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: another thing I don't understand is that little Malia was 591 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: at that house for an hour and a half before 592 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: Brittany went to the airport. And nobody's going to tell 593 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: me an apartment that's small, that mom wouldn't know that 594 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: her little daughter was running around the apartment. And then 595 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: why did she leave that early winter flight? Meant leave 596 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: until four thirty in the afternoon. So nobody's story, you know, 597 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: matches up to anything that's going on in this case. 598 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: Not one person's story. Nobody's story is matching up. Tim 599 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: Miller to Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer, Kathleen, I'm trying to 600 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: piece together how many times this child was reported to CPS. 601 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: CPS does nothing what the child had endured for four years, 602 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: her entire life. She was methodically and regularly and consistently abused, 603 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: and she was kept out of preschool for many days 604 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: after she was returned in February. Their other child was 605 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: at preschool. This child was not at preschool. And I 606 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: believe this child was consistently, regularly and habitually abused. I 607 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: believe the mother knew about it. Take a listen to 608 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: our friends at ABCNS the bombshell allegations in the case 609 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: of that missing four year old girl in Houston. A 610 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: spokesperson for the mother of Malia Davis making graphic abuse 611 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: claims against her stepfather. Here's ABC's Aeriel Ruscheff Tonight, a 612 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: spokesman for the mother of missing four year old Malia Davis, 613 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: making chilling new allegations claiming Malia's stepfather was physically abusive 614 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: toward the child. We need the truth about what happened 615 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: to young Malia to come out, sources say. This image 616 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: from a surveillance camera shows Malia's stepfather, dry On Vince, 617 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: leaving home on Friday with a laundry basket carrying a 618 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: plastic bag, and they say the next night he's seen 619 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: walking into a hospital after he claims he woke up 620 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: on the side of the road and Malia was gone. Today, 621 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: Malia's mother pressed on why she is only now sharing 622 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: these allegations. This mother has suffered a lot of abuse 623 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: in her life. Okay, We're hearing it from all sides 624 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: about what happened and why nothing was done about it. 625 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: Tim Miller, founder director of Texas Equisearch. It seems to 626 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: me that this child suffered her whole life, and now 627 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: you are left looking for her body and would Nancy. 628 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna do everything we can do to find that 629 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: by I don't care where it takes us. You know, 630 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: sure we wish step Dad would talk, but when they 631 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: arrested him, of course he lawyered up immediately and in 632 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: anticipated he would do that, so that no cooperations from 633 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: him whatsoever. You know, Mom knew this was going on 634 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: for a long time, so you know, if she's certainly 635 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: not gonna be Mother of the Year by no means. 636 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: And you know, CPS got the ball, Judge got the ball. 637 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: The ball was got on a little girl that did 638 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: not did not have a choice in life, probably once 639 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: she was born. And again I said this before, I'll 640 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: say it again, a little Malia in some place he 641 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: did not choose to be, in some place he doesn't 642 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: want to be. And there's one person that knows, and 643 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: of course he won't talk. Tip line seven one three 644 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: three zero eight thirty six hundred or seven one three 645 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: two two two tips seven one three two two two 646 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: eight four seven seven. The search for Maliah goes on 647 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off Goodbye friend,