1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's bring in Champ Pennington. I hope you 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and your family had a blessed Christmas. And uh, this 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: is our final show at two thousand sixteen. Yet I've 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it as always. But we'll come back next 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: week for a year and review. First off, the Jets 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: go to New England on Christmas Eve and it was 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: just a tough week. Got all the way around. Todd 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Bowls fell ill on Friday. He was hospitalized, did not 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: make the trip with the team UH to Foxborough, but 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: he came back on Saturday morning, coached through some pain. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: He had gall stones, gall bladder problems, um, you name it, 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: but the guy was there. Uh. The true making of 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: of a tough man who played eight years in the 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: National Football League. But Bryce Petty makes a start, his 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: third consecutive start his Todd Bowls UH said Petty was 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna start the final four games for this team barring injury, 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: but unfortunately Chad for the second consecutive week, he left 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: early and this one ends his season as he tore 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: the labram in his left shoulder while he's trying to 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: make a tackle on Malcolm Butler, filing a second quarter turnover. UH. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: How bad do you feel for a kid like Bryce 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: right now what he's endured. Well, you certainly can't evaluate 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: much of his performance, um And I think you know, 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: for him it uh certainly disappointing because you had this 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: game as well as the final game too, continue to 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: improve and show that he was making improvement and so 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: that has all gone down the drain. So that's a 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: tough situation for him. UM. Luckily, on the positive side, 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: it's his left shoulder, So dealing with the right torn 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: labram or you're throwing shoulder torn labram is much different 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: than dealing with your opposite shoulder. I can speak from 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: experience on that. So it's a tough situation for him. 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: It's also a tough situation for the Jets because, um, 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: they don't have a lot to go on. UM. And 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: just from my own personal evaluation watching the television copy, UM, 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, wasn't a lot of good football play across 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the board. In watching Bryce, there were certainly some things 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: that could have been done better. So it's a it's 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: just a small snapshot and how much evaluation you can do. 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: You have to kind of rely upon your training camp 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: evaluation and your progress through the season. Through practices and 42 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: things like that, with a couple of shots and tidbits 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: mixed in throughout the season with games. So it's kind 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: of a conundrum here as far as what to do 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: with Bryce Petty. Yeah, it's a small snapshot, and you 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: were talking about it each week. Is that you like 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the grittiness and the intangibles he showed against San Francisco 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: as the Jets came back from eleven point fourth quarter deficit, 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: But the following week against the Dolphins, he responded early 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: after saying he had nerves against the forty niners and 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: led the Jets down the field. He culminated his opening 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: possession with the forty yard scoring pastor Robby Anderson, and 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the Jets weren't scoring territory on that second drive. In 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: a strip sect from camera, Wegg tou recovers and that 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: was the start of like a downhill slide because the 56 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Jets really never regained momentum in net game and we're 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: knocked out by twenty one point flurry by the Dolphins 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and they were out of it 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: from the start against the Patriots. So all in all, 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: like you were saying, what do you make of Petti's 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: eight and a half quarters of action approximately. Well, I think, um, 62 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: you see some nice intangibles, like you said, Um, you 63 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: saw the ability to lead your team back, um, and 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: and be down late in the fourth quarter and lead 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: your team back to a comeback victory. But then you 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: also see inconsistency, inconsistency and accuracy, inconsistency in reads, um 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and just overall play, which some of that is to 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: be expected from a young quarterback. Um. And unfortunately because 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: of the in and out appearances by him where he 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't get to see four straight games of him taking 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: every stamp, then that then creates even more indecision on 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: on your evaluation of what type of player he can 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: be here, what his performances were. Yeah, and you said 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: it before the game. We're talking about a young quarterback 75 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: making his fourth NFL start, going up to New England 76 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: with an offensive line without four of its projected five starters. 77 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: At the beginning of two thousand and sixteen, you had 78 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: concern about this ball game going into it. Um. Now, 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: there's not much you can take from what happened with 80 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Patty out there is a plate too much. But he 81 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: said he had problems with the slick ball at times. 82 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Were you surprised by that? Well, I don't know if 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: it would be surprised. It's just you. You can't have 84 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: problems with a slick ball. It's part of playing in 85 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the a f C East. You've got to learn how 86 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: to play in weather, windy conditions, rainy conditions, snowy conditions, 87 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and sunny conditions. And um, it's not like Waco, Texas, 88 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: and it's not like playing in South Florida or in 89 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the Dome. So that's part of being in a f 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: C East. You have to learn how to minimize those 91 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: distractions from the weather and be able to optimize your opportunity. 92 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: That's just part of playing quarterback in that division. What 93 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: is partty you have to do in the offseason? During 94 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: these his limited time as a starter the last few weeks, 95 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: complete a fifty eight percent of his passes for nearly 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: five yards, with one touchdown and four interceptions shed. He 97 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: was sacked eleven times over these past three years. Well, 98 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: I think, um, besides getting healthy, Um, you have to 99 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: then take the film and really study it, and then 100 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: you have to then start to study your own system 101 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: and and study all sixteen games, even the ones you 102 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't play, and then I think as young players, and 103 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: I wish I would have done more of this as 104 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: a young player, and I think it's just part of 105 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: the stubbornness of young players. I think you've got to 106 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: reach out, uh, two guys who have done it, and 107 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you've got to kind of start doing some studies and 108 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: talking to guys that have been there before, and reach 109 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: out to the former quarterbacks and kind of start to 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: develop a dialogue there to where you can start taking 111 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: notes and and just add as much information to your 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: toolbox as you can from outside sources as well as 113 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: studying outside film and other quarterbacks to try to help 114 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: increase that curve, that learning curve as much as possible, 115 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: knowing you can get a chance to play all of 116 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: your games that you were, you know, supposed to play, 117 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: all right. This is taped on Tuesday before Todd Bowls 118 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: goes to the podium here in Florhn Park and likely 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: tells the media who will his starting quarterback b As 120 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: the Jets conclude the regular season against the Buffalo Bills 121 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium on Sunday. There are only two healthy 122 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: players on this roster, and Ryan Fitzpatrick and second round 123 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: pick Christian Hackenberg. Hackenberg is not dressed so far this season, 124 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: so let's just go through all the scenarios. If Fitzpatrick starts, 125 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: gets the nod for eleven time in two thousand sixteen. 126 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, Yeah, I don't think that it 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: makes much sense to start Christian Hackenburg. I think this 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: is a humanistic decision here that you have to make. 129 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: And um, you have a player that has been inactive 130 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: all year, um, that is not even prepared to play 131 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: in a game, has any and being suited up and 132 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: been one play away, hasn't even been in that situation. 133 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: So to put Christian Hackenberg in as a starter, to 134 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: me does not make sense. Um. I think, first of all, 135 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: from a team perspective and an organizational perspective inside the ability, 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: it would be nice to to end the season on 137 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: a win. I think that is Um. Yes, it's a 138 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: feel good thing. It doesn't matter to the outside, but 139 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: it matters inside, and so I think starting line Fitzpatrick 140 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: um gives you the best chance to win inside the building. 141 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: I think it's important that these players rally around each 142 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: other to try to get a win the last game 143 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: of the season. I think that's important as part of 144 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: being a professional. I think you're gonna have a Buffalo 145 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: team that's gonna company here prepared and wanting to win 146 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: and willing to win. Um. But then besides that, I 147 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: just don't think it makes much sense to to put 148 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: a kid in that completely not ready to play, and 149 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: you haven't you know, developed him throughout the year to 150 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: play and so UM, it's not like that this is 151 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: a maddened video game and you can just throw in 152 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: another player. These are human beings you're dealing with. UM. 153 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't think from the human perspective that you do 154 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: that now. It will be a good opportunity for him 155 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: to now prepare as the second quarterback knowing that he 156 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: is going to dress, knowing that he is really one 157 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: play away and so you may he may see some 158 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: action anyway. But to start him against the Buffalo team 159 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: is gonna blitz, is gonna throw different things that you. 160 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: I think there's much more risk than reward. They're no 161 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: doubt about it. What changes when you dress if Hackenburg 162 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: is indeed the back up against the Bills and he's 163 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: not the starter, what changes? Uh? As far as he 164 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: is concerned, and how did the Jets get him ready 165 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: to play as opposed to him leading a scout team 166 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: offense him get need more reps this week? Do they 167 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: have basically a Christian package that Hey, these are players 168 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: that this guy is comfortable with at this point of time. Yeah, 169 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: you have to be conscious of that. First of all, 170 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: he'll probably in total amount of risks get more reps 171 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: and Ryans Patrick when you throw in the scout team 172 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: ramps that he'll get as well as I would say, 173 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, if there's a ten play period, I would 174 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: say he would get four those, um and Ryan get six. 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be prepared. And I think that you know, 176 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, Um, you know, you'll have obviously 177 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: rely on the running game for him, um, the play 178 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: action quarterback movement game where the reads are sitting Fulder 179 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: out of the pocket, and then you have a certain 180 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: amount of drawback passes. You also have the two minute package, 181 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and so, uh, they'll there'll be a decent amount. I 182 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: think you'd have seven need to seven five percent of 183 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: what you'd normally do. And he's got to be ready 184 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: and he's got to be on point with those things. 185 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: And so this is a good situation for him to 186 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: actually have a different experience going into a week to 187 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: prepare to possibly play. You've been on the practice field, 188 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: so you know what everything tells and tells. Um. The 189 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: argument from the fan is going to be, if Fitzpatrick 190 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback, Hey, Dak Prescott is leading the 191 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys the thirteen wins this year. He was a fourth 192 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: round pick. Christian Hackenberg was the second round pick. He 193 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: has been within your system for now sixteen weeks of 194 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the regular season. Why would it potentially damage him? Uh 195 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: playing in a starting role here. That's just the devil's advocate, 196 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: because you know where the fan base is that is 197 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: that they want to see uh a little bit of 198 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Hackenburgh before the season. That's well, first of all, you're 199 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: comparing apples to oranges. Uh, Let's don't act like that 200 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys completely picked, prepared and planned on Dak Prescott plane, 201 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: because they certainly did not, and they were forced into Uh, 202 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott plane and had to make adjustment on the move. 203 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott also got a lot more preseasoned action then 204 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: Christian Hackenbury. It's a completely totally different situation. We shouldn't 205 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: even be having this conversation, to be honest with you, 206 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: but we will just for the sake of point Devil's advocate. 207 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: But it makes no sense that you can't compare those two. Secondly, 208 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and what he has to work with right 209 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: now and where the Cowboys are and their team situation 210 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: is completely different than Christian hackenburg situation in the Jeff 211 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: situation with as many people as the Jets have on 212 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: I R and all the different challenges that they're dealing with, 213 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: So it's not even I don't even think it's a 214 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: situation where we can have this conversation on the equal 215 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: playing people, because it's not no doubt. Um, if you're 216 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: Hackenburg and you know, hey, you are dressing for the 217 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: first time this week, how will things change for you 218 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: mentally as a young passer who's been the guy who 219 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people left alone this year. Obviously he's 220 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: getting coached up behind closed doors, but now will be 221 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: in that media spotlight a little bit this week. I 222 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: know the Jets have been eliminated from postseason um uh 223 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: contention for a long time, and obviously the Bill has 224 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: got eliminated last week with the tough loss themselves. So 225 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: on the surface, a lot of people are not going 226 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: to pay attention to this game nationally, But just knowing 227 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: that Hackenburg is going to be up this week and 228 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: possibly could play, now he's gonna get the microphones and 229 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: the cameras back on him again like he is play 230 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: in a big game at Penn State. Sure, and so 231 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: I think it's a good situation with him. It's a 232 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: nice learning experience for him. Um, his uh, weekly preparation 233 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: will be different, not in the amount of film he 234 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: may watch. It's just a feeling that he will have 235 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: knowing that he is actually putting on the paths, he's 236 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: putting on the uniform. He is truly one play away 237 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: from being in that huddle. That's completely different when you 238 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: know you're going to be inactive even though you are preparing. Um, 239 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: it's like a red shirt here. Well, he's no longer 240 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: being a red shirt because he's gonna be dressed and 241 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: he could possibly be playing in the game. So just 242 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: his emotions, UM, his mental makeup and his mental approach 243 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a tweaked this week because he 244 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: has the possibility of being in the huddle. And I 245 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: would expect nothing less than a professional effort from Ryan 246 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick no matter what happens. He was very supportive for 247 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Patty when Patty got to call. If Todd Bowles 248 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: even allotted to play Hackenburg at some point during this game, 249 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: I think Fitzpatford would be there right for him. What 250 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: are your expectations as far as on the field, um 251 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: from him as he closes the season. A disappointing campaign 252 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: for fits an entire Jets team, but thirty one touchdown 253 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: passes last season. The team also set a record in 254 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: terms of total yards and had every reason for high 255 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: expectations going into the two thousand sixteen campaign, but it 256 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: just never was there. We saw a glimpse of what 257 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: we thought this offense could be a Week two in Buffalo. Ironically, Chad, Yeah, 258 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I think the most disappointing thing, probably uh with the 259 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Jets offense is that I think their expectation, or at 260 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: least not their expectation, but the expectations on the outside 261 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: um got to them a little bit, thinking that, you know, 262 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: we need to duplicate or do even better than what 263 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: we last year, and quite frankly, it can never be 264 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: that way. The expectations, expectations are things that are placed 265 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: upon you from the outside that you can't control, whereas 266 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: your standard of play and how you play up to 267 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: your standard is why you can't control. And sometimes the 268 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: standard does not even match the expectation because the expectations 269 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: getting unrealistic. And I just think that, you know, coming 270 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: off such a great year statistically, and I think for 271 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Ryan and the Jets offense, the expectation UH, they tried 272 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: to play up to the expectations to just playing each 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: game one at a time and not worrying about that, 274 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: and we really focused on their standard of play trying 275 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: to win ball games. And I think that's evident in 276 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: the turnover category you look at the turnovers. I mean, 277 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: it's just too hard to overcome even when you have 278 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: a defense that you think can be dominant, when you 279 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: put the defense in such situations because you turn the 280 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: ball over so much. Now they can't play dominant defense 281 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: as well, because they're playing UH in a completely different situation. 282 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: They're not playing in an aggressive front. They're playing UM 283 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: in a in a front, in a mode where they're 284 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: just trying to stop the bleeding. And that's completely a 285 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: different mindset that you have as a defense. So I 286 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: think that's most disappointing. So what you'd like to see 287 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: coming into this game against Buffalo that the offense and 288 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: defense is clean, the slate play for good football, protective football, 289 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: and try to win a football game and get out 290 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: of this season with the fifth win. I think would 291 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: be important. The defense at such high standards uh over 292 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: the last few years, and I think guys have been 293 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: taken aback by what's actually transpired on the field throughout 294 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: this year. The lack of takeaways has been glaring. But 295 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: what can you point to why this defense is taking 296 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: a step back this year? Todd bowls unhappy with the 297 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: play of all three of his units, and he's the 298 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: first one to say that because about in the lack 299 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: of rush or the play of the secondary. Can you 300 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: pinpoint why the Jets have struggled so much defensively? Well, 301 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year, it was the big play. 302 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: It was the inability to keep the big play from happening, 303 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: whether it be a miscommunication and coverage, whether it just 304 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: be a one on one ball that was won by 305 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: the opponent um and so that was that was to me, 306 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that happened in the beginning of the year. 307 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: Moving into the middle to the later part of the year, 308 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: you saw the lack of pressures on the quarterback UM 309 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: and the lack of being able to get to the 310 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: quarterback and reach Havoc back there. But that also goes 311 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: into the offense turning the ball over, putting in the 312 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: defense in bad situations. UM also goes into coverage, being 313 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: able to stick with your man and and make sure 314 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: you're working the coverage is correctly and not having bust. 315 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things. There's not one glaring weakness. 316 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: I think that if there was one glading thing, it 317 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: was that the Jet did not play complimentary football, meaning 318 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: that when the offense needed to step up and make 319 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: it play for the defense, they did not, and when 320 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: the defense needed to step up and make it play 321 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: for the offense, the defense did not. And so there 322 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: was never a time in any of these games or 323 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: any point in the season where one side of the 324 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: ball created a spark and the other side fed off 325 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: of that sparking momentum UM. And so that that's probably 326 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: mean what's been most disappointing because you have a lot 327 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: of the same players, UM definitely have the same staff 328 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 1: and so in the same systems, and so uh, you know, 329 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: you just didn't have the same production. What do you 330 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: make of the snowball effect that's that happened in this team? 331 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: And three of the past four games, the Colts came 332 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: in Monday night football. They struck early with a couple 333 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: of punches, and the Jets that were neighb anover able 334 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: to get back in the game. Excuse me, And a 335 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, it's Saturday night, the Dolphins are 336 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: in town. The Jets actually came out with the spirited 337 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: early effort. He saw the passion they were in the ballgame, 338 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: and then they were knocked out by twenty one point flurry. 339 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: Then last week against the Patriots, he turned the ball over. 340 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Against anybody, you're not gonna give yourself a chance, but 341 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: against the Patriots is going to turn into a route. 342 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: So three of these past four games, the Jets haven't 343 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: been in it. What is happening where they're taking those 344 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: punches and they're not able to regain their footing Because Chad, 345 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are questioning this team's effort right now, 346 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know, since we're not suiting up you have, 347 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's fair because I think if 348 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: you go watch the tape and the football is a 349 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: very violent sport. These guys, there's a lot of guys 350 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: are going out there, it's just they seem to be 351 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: lacking a jump. And then do you think there is 352 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: something to that snowball effect when things start going downhill, like, 353 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: oh we we there's nothing for us to do at 354 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: this point where we can stop it. Well, I think 355 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: what I've seen and what I think, I don't think 356 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: it's it's it's about effort. I think there's probably a 357 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: different word here, And I think that when you look 358 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: at effort um, you know, effort can be deceiving. Um. 359 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys can can give great effort, but you don't 360 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: give the result. And you think of the effort, but 361 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: you can't get the results. So I think that what 362 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: happens to teams and situations as teams go into survival mode, 363 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: and what happens is is that they kind of play 364 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: it close to the vest and make sure there's not 365 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: any glaring mistakes. But yet, when you play that way 366 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're not the one being highlighted 367 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: to make a greater mistake, you also aren't extending yourself 368 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: to make a big play and to be able to 369 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: do something spectacular and great because things are not going 370 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: your way in such a negative environment. And that's probably 371 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: what it's happened into this team, is that because it's 372 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: been so negative and there's been such a lack of 373 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: positivity as well as production in the win column, you're 374 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: seeing a team that that plays hasn't it. You're seeing 375 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: a team that plays close to the the vest, that plays 376 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: in survival mode instead of just playing free and loose 377 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: and going out and trying to do everything you can. 378 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: So at fifty ball, with the team that has the 379 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: momentum on their side, they win those where a team 380 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't have the momentum they do not. And so 381 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: that's that's difficult to overcome. It's difficult to work through um. 382 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: But somehow, some way, you've got to find a way 383 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: to keep fighting and keep moving forward. And just keep 384 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: fighting is not the answer, because you can. It's like 385 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: a boxer in the ring. He can keep fighting, but 386 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's still gonna lose. 387 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: You have to make the conscious tools to say, Okay, 388 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: regardless of what things look like or what they feel like, 389 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight the scrap for everything. I have to 390 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: go get this ball or to make this play, And yes, 391 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: that made put me out on a lamb by myself, 392 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: but I've got to do that because that's the way 393 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: the game needs to be played, and that's the way 394 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: I need to act as a professional. Well, it's New 395 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Year's Day, Jets and the bills of MetLife Stadium. Finally, 396 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: before we closed the pod, this week, your national semifinal selections. 397 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Alabama the number one seed against the University of Washington, 398 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: the number four seeds. Who you got in that game? Yeah, 399 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: I think Alabama's physicality will eventually take over. Uh. You 400 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: know the one thing that Washington does have, They do 401 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: have speed, they do have explosiveness, uh in on the 402 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: offensive side. But for four quarters of that at last, 403 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Alabama completely uh goes against how they've been playing and 404 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: they completely turned the ball over. I think Alabama should 405 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: come out on top on that one. I say Washington 406 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: is very sneaky because I think there's always been an 407 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: East Coast bias. Chris Peterson is a toremntous coach his 408 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: own right. I know Nick Saban is unbelievable, He's a legend, 409 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't think Peterson will be out coaching 410 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: this game and if they somehow can give Jake Browning 411 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to throw. I like the 412 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: running backs. I like their skill position players on the outside. 413 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: The key player to me was actually gonna be on 414 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Ken Washington, Negate, Alabama's 415 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: quarterback when he talks that ball and runs, because the 416 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: Huskies have one of the better secondaries in the nation. 417 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: I think this game is gonna be a lot closer 418 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: than all people think. Second game, Uh, Clemson in Ohio State. 419 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: Do you have a national championship rematch on tap? Or 420 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: do you think Urban Meyer is gonna have something special 421 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: in store? And will they take down to Shaun Watson 422 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: and the Tigers. I think this game is a complete 423 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: tough uh. I don't think the experts can truly say, Okay, 424 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: here's who has the edge. I mean to me, they 425 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: they marry each other in a lot of ways. You've 426 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: got two quarterbacks that play similar have similar experiences, both 427 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: explosive with the arms and their legs. Um, you have 428 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: two systems that are similar and how they do things. Um. 429 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean for me to sit here and say one 430 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: or the other because of this or that, I would 431 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: be lying to you. I think this is a complete 432 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: toss up um in every category, and it may just 433 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: come down to a freak play here or there, or 434 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: one play here or there that that really um, you know, 435 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: determined as the game. Uh. It could be one of 436 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: those games that could be a forty five or forty 437 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: four game, um, or it could be an ugly game. 438 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I really don't know, Eric, I mean I think that 439 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: this is one that is you want to watch it 440 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: because you just don't know what's going to happen between 441 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: these two teams. I truly think, uh, there's gonna be 442 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: some good football play. I think both these games really 443 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: had the potential to be something special. H and uh, 444 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: like I said with Peterson and then you just talked 445 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: about a close matchup with Ohio State and Clemson, is 446 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: so anything happens out there and seterday, I will not 447 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: be surprised at all. Chat Happy New Year's to you 448 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: and of course your family as well. Many blessings, and 449 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk next year as we reviewed the two thousand 450 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: sixteen season. Okay, Eric, thank you, Happy New Year.