Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of back bed. It's spooky, Andy,
Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
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Speaker 1: And this week I.
Speaker 3: Talk to four fantastic listeners of this show. First up,
Speaker 3: we've got Kathleen who works in hospitals, and she talks
Speaker 3: to us about hospital ghosts, which is so fascinating, and
Speaker 3: then she starts bringing more spookiness and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: we got to put this on Patreon as a bonus,
Speaker 3: so when you listen to her talk, you're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I got to hear more. So after we've got Kathleen,
Speaker 3: we have Caitlin on the show today, who recently had
Speaker 3: a baby, brings the baby home from the hospital and
Speaker 3: stuff starts getting freaky around the house. And then we
Speaker 3: have our first ever listener calls in from Australia, which
Speaker 3: is a crazy time zone difference from me here in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: and he woke up early and he really brought it.
Speaker 3: So we've got Peter, and rounding out the show, we've
Speaker 3: got Annie, who grew up in a spooky, haunted house
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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, is this Kathleen.
Speaker 4: Yes, Hi roz Hi.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thanks for having me of course.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute. You're a nurse, I am. Have
Speaker 1: you had hospital spookiness happen?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, don't you know it's.
Speaker 3: So weird, like we have barely ever heard that on
Speaker 3: this show, and I'm dying to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I've been a nurse for six years and most
Speaker 4: of the time it's pretty silly stuff. I think, like so,
Speaker 4: and I worked for a long time, so you know,
Speaker 4: like there was one time when I was charting and no, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was in a room charting and I felt the
Speaker 4: scratch on my leg and so I turned around, like
Speaker 4: what is that? And there was the security people pushing
Speaker 4: a dead body down the on the cart down the hall.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, Hi, I guess I just
Speaker 4: wanted to say hello.
Speaker 1: Wait, but did you did it touch you or it
Speaker 1: just like something else.
Speaker 4: I think it was just trying to say hi. It
Speaker 4: just scratched me, like, I mean, they were they were
Speaker 4: and I saw them go through the doorway. They were
Speaker 4: down the hallway. But you know, just like stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I think they're just trying to get my attention.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Is it a thing in the hospital where people talk
Speaker 3: to each other about this kind of stuff like, oh,
Speaker 3: I am nurses and doctors and stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, like I'd be one of those people where
Speaker 4: every time I had to float to a different unit,
Speaker 4: I'd kind of get to know, you know, settle in.
Speaker 4: Just wait till about like one when we start charting it,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Okay, so what kind of ghosts you
Speaker 4: guys experience over here? And I'd say, you know, most people,
Speaker 4: especially the old like krusty nurses, definitely have their their
Speaker 4: stories their experiences. And it's really interesting too, kind of
Speaker 4: like getting to hear the different ghosts, like the oncology
Speaker 4: ghosts or like the children ghosts, you know, like or
Speaker 4: like ghosts in the O R or units that used
Speaker 4: to be certain units and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Well, have you heard anything that like really freaked you out?
Speaker 2: Heard?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one that this that didn't happen to me,
Speaker 4: It happened to It happened it actually different night that
Speaker 4: I wasn't working, but there was a patient who passed away,
Speaker 4: and I guess all of a sudden the call it
Speaker 4: went off in that room, and the nurse thought like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe the you know, somebody bumped the light on accident,
Speaker 4: And she went back in the room and the patient
Speaker 4: was actually sitting up and looked at the nurse and
Speaker 4: was like, why did you guys put a sheet over
Speaker 4: my head? And they like literally like fainted. I guess
Speaker 4: the patient just like came back to life. There was
Speaker 4: this older lady and they were like, oh uh uh
Speaker 4: to like call the doctor, and the daughter like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this patient came back alive, so you might want to
Speaker 4: like erase that time of death on the death certificate.
Speaker 1: And then but she really was dead.
Speaker 4: She yeah, like the doctor like like had like listened
Speaker 4: to her, you know, getting here any heartbeats, And then
Speaker 4: he came back down and was like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: I'll just put those orders back in like for her medications.
Speaker 4: And then she ended up passing away another like thirty
Speaker 4: minutes later. But that was a pretty funny ordeal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where are where are you?
Speaker 4: I'm in San Diego.
Speaker 1: Oh amazing.
Speaker 4: I've worked, but I've worked in Nebraska and Iowa, Idaho,
Speaker 4: and I like and for me, you know, like there's
Speaker 4: also been several instances where like I'm rushing down the
Speaker 4: room because I saw on the monitor like a lethal
Speaker 4: cardiac rhythm, and I like speed into that room, and
Speaker 4: then I realized, oh my gosh, there's nobody in here,
Speaker 4: Like I swear on the monitor like I would see
Speaker 4: this called like ventricular attack of cardia, and there's nobody
Speaker 4: in there like that, Like that's that's been weird. That
Speaker 4: was weird, that's happened before for me. Or I'll be
Speaker 4: like waiting for another staff ever together supplies to go
Speaker 4: into your room. This actually is kind of funny. And
Speaker 4: I was sitting there charting and somebody walks past the
Speaker 4: computer and on the hubway. I thought it was that
Speaker 4: the other church nurse, since I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: like I'll be there in a second, and I go down.
Speaker 4: I followed this person down the hallway. They're wearing all black.
Speaker 4: I wasn't really like staring at them. I was kind
Speaker 4: of like looking at my stuff. And then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, I get to the end of the hallway
Speaker 4: and there's no one there, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: did I just really follow a ghost all the way
Speaker 4: down the hallway? Like that's impursing, like king, there's a mistake.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that so fascinating to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then there there was some like really like
Speaker 4: dark stuff too, Like well, there was good. So like
Speaker 4: one of the units I worked on, we would have
Speaker 4: patients that were there for like months and months and
Speaker 4: months at the time, and we developed relationships with them
Speaker 4: all and after they passed, it would almost be like
Speaker 4: losing a friend. And it's happened like three or four
Speaker 4: times where those people then visited me in dreams and
Speaker 4: you know, showed me like that they were fine, they
Speaker 4: were doing all right, and that was really really cool
Speaker 4: to see. And I would go back to work and
Speaker 4: like sell that to people. I'm like, yeah, like in
Speaker 4: my dream, I saw this person. He was at the
Speaker 4: grocery store, like like cooking. He was like all with
Speaker 4: his friends and his family and he's like up and
Speaker 4: walking and they're like, oh my gosh, this is cool.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know. That was all like the really
Speaker 4: happy stuff.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Worked in the er also, and there were a lot
Speaker 4: of times where I'd see like obviously like really traumatic
Speaker 4: like like horrible white people have died. And there's been
Speaker 4: some people that have attached themselves to me, and I
Speaker 4: go home and I'm just literally haunted by them for
Speaker 4: weeks until I think trying to figure out what to do,
Speaker 4: kind of like reliving like seeing the way they died,
Speaker 4: like outside of the er that's happened. That's been really freaky,
Speaker 4: but trying to think, Oh, there's been a couple I've
Speaker 4: learned like pretty quick on not to say, like like
Speaker 4: in it, not to tell like a patient that I
Speaker 4: saw someone in the room less I'm like one hundred
Speaker 4: percent sure that they're actually human. There's been a couple
Speaker 4: of times where like I think I see somebody in there,
Speaker 4: like or I'll see somebody kneeling next to the bed
Speaker 4: or standing there and I'm like, oh, that's sweet. Like
Speaker 4: they have a visitor, and I'll go in and I'll
Speaker 4: be like, hey, like I saw someone in here earlier,
Speaker 4: like Gemni's visit, and they'd be like there's no one
Speaker 4: in here, Like oh, like, oh, I'm actually thinking of
Speaker 4: another patient. Sorry, never mind. That's happened a couple of
Speaker 4: times where like now I know, like not to say
Speaker 4: anything unless I'm like one thousand percenture, Okay.
Speaker 1: I have so many questions. First, of all.
Speaker 3: Okay, so my first question, as as somebody that works
Speaker 3: in hospitals, do you what what why do you think uh,
Speaker 3: ghosts would be in a hospital now? Now, I would
Speaker 3: guess that there's probably a lot of spirits that don't
Speaker 3: realize that they have died and maybe they're still around.
Speaker 3: I mean, what, what do you think or is it
Speaker 3: is it them leaving you know, they're leaving their bodies
Speaker 3: and they're kind of wandering.
Speaker 4: Around or yeah, you know, I think it totally depends
Speaker 4: on the hospital too, in the unit. So you know,
Speaker 4: like in my time on like ice used or where
Speaker 4: you have patients that are in comas for a long time,
Speaker 4: Like I can literally see their spirit hovering above them
Speaker 4: and I think they're in this this space. I don't
Speaker 4: really know what it is exactly, but they're in this
Speaker 4: kind of in between for such a long time. I
Speaker 4: think their spirits kind of used to it and it's
Speaker 4: familiar to them. And you know, like some hospitals too,
Speaker 4: like ones that have more of a rehabilitation emphasis, they've
Speaker 4: got these like they look like playgrounds, like they've got
Speaker 4: all these fun like balls and blocks and things, and
Speaker 4: they think those attract a lot of child spirits because
Speaker 4: they look like they're fun to play with. And I know,
Speaker 4: like the hospital I'm currently at, the rehab department, stuff
Speaker 4: is always being moved around, like they come in every
Speaker 4: day and stuff just like all over the place. And
Speaker 4: then I think like in the like in the er,
Speaker 4: you have a lot of people that die like really suddenly,
Speaker 4: and they die in really traumatic, awful ways, and I
Speaker 4: think those like those spirits are just trapped, like they're
Speaker 4: just trying to figure out like what the heck is
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can imagine, Yeah, the different different
Speaker 3: units would probably have different ghosts for different reasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I don't know if you're familiar with
Speaker 4: like the Hillcrest area in San Diego, so that's where
Speaker 4: I am now, Yeah, and that's like grand central station
Speaker 4: for hospital ghosts because you've got UCSD, got scripts, you
Speaker 4: got like several different big hospital systems, and then plus
Speaker 4: a lot of little ones. So like I just see
Speaker 4: people like passing in, like in and out all the
Speaker 4: time throughout the hospital. But I don't think they're necessarily haunting.
Speaker 4: They're just they're just going wherever they're going, and right
Speaker 4: they're going wherever they see light. Or they see someone
Speaker 4: that can see them.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm wondering, like if ghosts stick around or
Speaker 3: if it's more just because you know, with hospital I mean,
Speaker 3: if you look at the living in hospitals, it's like
Speaker 3: people are coming in and out constantly, and so I
Speaker 3: wonder if it's like that for spirits as well, or
Speaker 3: if there are some. I mean, I'm sure it's so
Speaker 3: case by case, but I'm sure that there are some
Speaker 3: that linger around, but probably for the most part, it's
Speaker 3: probably like a temporary And.
Speaker 4: I think there's also just a lot of really random
Speaker 4: ghosts too, that aren't associated with the hospital. Like I
Speaker 4: had the hospital I'm at now, we had an VS
Speaker 4: worker take a really good ghost picture and I had
Speaker 4: to send it to me, and it's a woman in
Speaker 4: a lace dress, so like nobody that would be in
Speaker 4: the hospital. But I think just the area that it is,
Speaker 4: and I think it just it must attract other spirits
Speaker 4: as well, since there's so much commotion.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure, thank you for being here. This is Caitlin, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: it is hi, Caitlin.
Speaker 1: Where are you.
Speaker 5: I am outside of Chicago, Illinois. Love it.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite places.
Speaker 5: Oh, awesome. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty fun. You know,
Speaker 5: it's very very uh, we're kind of getting a break
Speaker 5: from the heat finally, thank god.
Speaker 1: So that's good. Well, congratulations, I saw you just had
Speaker 1: a child.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, our first baby. He was born at the
Speaker 5: end of March, kind of right after everything shut down
Speaker 5: due to COVID, which was interesting, you know, definitely not
Speaker 5: when we anticipated. But it's all good.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I'm sure that had to be pretty wild.
Speaker 3: But then when I was reading your email, you were
Speaker 3: talking about some parent normal stuff that happened around that time.
Speaker 1: What happened, Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: Definitely also very unexpected with everything that was going on.
Speaker 5: So and I'll try to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 5: through the story and hopefully it makes sense and everything
Speaker 5: is all good. But so we brought our son home
Speaker 5: from the hospital, like I said, a kind of the
Speaker 5: end of March, and.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll kind of.
Speaker 5: Preface it by saying, we've never had anything weird happen
Speaker 5: in our home. We've lived here now for about three years.
Speaker 5: The home is about fifty years old, and only a
Speaker 5: couple families have lived here prior to us, and you know,
Speaker 5: totally fine, no weird experiences, no nothing, and you know,
Speaker 5: always felt comfortable inside the house and like I said,
Speaker 5: no experiences of anything weird.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 5: And then we brought our son home from the hospital
Speaker 5: and my husband was home with me for about two
Speaker 5: weeks after I gave birth, and you know, we were
Speaker 5: just kind of going through the whole like newborn new parents,
Speaker 5: kind of dealing with that. And then about two weeks
Speaker 5: after I had our baby, my husband went back to work,
Speaker 5: and you know, he's in construction, so he's not doing
Speaker 5: the whole work from home saying that everyone is kind
Speaker 5: of doing nowadays, so he was physically out of the
Speaker 5: home during the day. I was at home by myself
Speaker 5: with the baby and our dog, and I started noticing
Speaker 5: just really weird things happening around the house, Like lights
Speaker 5: would be on that I know for a fact we're off,
Speaker 5: doors would be open that I know we're closed. I
Speaker 5: started hearing like footsteps, which was obviously super unnerving being
Speaker 5: like a young mom at home alone with like her baby,
Speaker 5: and it was just like all of a sudden, all
Speaker 5: these weird things just started happening. And I didn't really
Speaker 5: say anything to my husband initially because I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, I just don't really know how to approach
Speaker 5: this with him, because, like I said, it's just never
Speaker 5: been something that we've experienced in that home. And I
Speaker 5: posted my experiences on this like Facebook group that I'm
Speaker 5: a part of that kind of talks about like paranormal stuff,
Speaker 5: and a lot of the people on there were like,
Speaker 5: you know, is it possible that maybe it's like a
Speaker 5: grandparent or a parent or a family member who may
Speaker 5: have passed away, who's maybe like now checking in and
Speaker 5: being you know, their new addition to the family basically,
Speaker 5: And I was like, I mean maybe, but because I
Speaker 5: have now lost all of my grandparents unfortunately, and I
Speaker 5: was like, maybe that's kind of what I was thinking,
Speaker 5: kind of hoping for. But it was kind of a
Speaker 5: nice thought, but I never really felt that way, I guess,
Speaker 5: because like, whatever it was I felt in the house,
Speaker 5: it didn't feel malevolent, but it also didn't really feel good,
Speaker 5: if that makes sense. Like it just kind of felt
Speaker 5: very neutral and just kind of like, hello, I'm here,
Speaker 5: now I'm in your house. And my grandparents were all
Speaker 5: super lovely, amazing, kind, wonderful, warm people, and it just
Speaker 5: didn't feel like the presence that you would expect from
Speaker 5: someone like that, if that makes sense. Yeah, And you know,
Speaker 5: so I just kind of went about it. And you know,
Speaker 5: my son, when I would be holding him in the nursery,
Speaker 5: he would start to kind of focus on stuff that
Speaker 5: wasn't there, and he would kind of giggle at something
Speaker 5: like across the room, and I was like ooh, and
Speaker 5: you know again, people were like, well, you know, infants
Speaker 5: at that stage, you know, they kind of their their
Speaker 5: eyesight and senses are still developing, so they could see
Speaker 5: something across the room and just you know be like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's interesting, you know, because they don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: And I was trying to like or it could definitely
Speaker 5: be a ghost. And then with like everything going on,
Speaker 5: I was talking to another friend of mine who you know,
Speaker 5: she she's a little bit more into the occult and
Speaker 5: she's you know, very well versed and kind of like
Speaker 5: things that are paranormal or kind of you know that
Speaker 5: that all that kind of stuff. And I've always been
Speaker 5: into the paranormal, but you know, she's she's definitely like
Speaker 5: you know, she's she's a practicing witch and you know
Speaker 5: she kind of does like spirit work and stuff. And
Speaker 5: I was kind of talking to her about it, and
Speaker 5: I was like, you seem like someone that I can
Speaker 5: really talk to about this and try to, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe you can kind of get a sense of what's
Speaker 5: going on here. And I appreciate her because she also
Speaker 5: looks at things from a very logical perspective too, and
Speaker 5: she's like, Okay, you know, the things that are going
Speaker 5: on in your house, like, let's try to look at
Speaker 5: this logically. Like, you guys just had a baby. You know,
Speaker 5: new parents usually pretty tired, you know, they're exhausted, They're
Speaker 5: you know, kind of in a new kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: potentially stressful situation with you know, things going on with
Speaker 5: like their baby and and life and trying to figure
Speaker 5: it out. She's like, is it possible that you could
Speaker 5: just kind of be going through something where you guys
Speaker 5: are really tired and exhausted and the exhaustion could be
Speaker 5: playing tricks on your mind where maybe you're not remembering
Speaker 5: things or you know, just having you know, thoughts of
Speaker 5: things that you might have thought you did that really didn't.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I would normally agree with you, but
Speaker 5: our child has been like an awesome sleeper since birth,
Speaker 5: which like we're super thrilled about like I mean, even
Speaker 5: as a newborn, he was only waking up once per night,
Speaker 5: and he started sleeping through the night at two months old,
Speaker 5: which was like even impressive to our pediatrician. So we've
Speaker 5: we've never we were never like the typical like oh Man,
Speaker 5: new pairs and you know that you'll see on like
Speaker 5: TV shows or movies or you know, people who have
Speaker 5: gone through it where it's like your baby's waking up
Speaker 5: like every hour wanting to eat and you're just so exhausted.
Speaker 5: We never had that. Really lucky, I know, we got
Speaker 5: so lucky, but you know, and so that's why when
Speaker 5: she mentioned that, I was like, normally it would totally
Speaker 5: agree with you. But our little unicorn baby, you know,
Speaker 5: we've thankfully been pretty well rested. So I don't think
Speaker 5: it's that. And you know, she's like, you know, because
Speaker 5: there was one situation where our home is structured like
Speaker 5: kind of a very typical Midwestern like split level home.
Speaker 5: So like you walk in the front door and you're
Speaker 5: in this kind of like landing area where like you look,
Speaker 5: you walk in the front door, and straight ahead of
Speaker 5: you is the sliding door to go out to the
Speaker 5: back patio in the backyard, and then you can either
Speaker 5: go upstairs or downstairs. Like there's two sets of stairs
Speaker 5: where you can either go downstairs into kind of like
Speaker 5: our den, TV hangout area, or you can go to
Speaker 5: the upstairs level, which is like the kitchen in the
Speaker 5: bedrooms and kind of like the dining room area. So
Speaker 5: like one morning, I got up and I went to
Speaker 5: the kind of mid level to let my dog outside.
Speaker 5: I went back upstairs to start prepping my son's bottle,
Speaker 5: and then when I went back to that middle landing
Speaker 5: level to let my dog back inside, the lights in
Speaker 5: the downstairs den were on, and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: And that really freaked me out because I was like,
Speaker 5: that was kind of the first moment where I was
Speaker 5: really like, Okay, is there someone.
Speaker 2: In this house?
Speaker 5: Do I need to grab my kid and my dog?
Speaker 5: Book it? Like, I mean, it was just it was
Speaker 5: so unnerving to just see that. And you know, when
Speaker 5: I was again, when I was talking to my friend
Speaker 5: about it, she was like, you know, sometimes our brains
Speaker 5: go on autopilot all the time, right, I mean we
Speaker 5: see it, like, you know, you walk into a room
Speaker 5: and you're like, why am I here? How did I
Speaker 5: end up here? You know, sometimes you just kind of
Speaker 5: do that, and I was like, again, most of the time,
Speaker 5: I would agree with you. But with my son, I
Speaker 5: ended up having a C section. So you know, when
Speaker 5: they give you kind of like the list of like
Speaker 5: rules to you know, make sure that you stay safe
Speaker 5: and healthy with your incision as it's healing, and you know,
Speaker 5: to not injure yourself or put a lot of pressure
Speaker 5: on your incision while you're you know, healing post childbirth.
Speaker 5: And one of the main things that they tell you
Speaker 5: is like try to limit the amount of times that
Speaker 5: you go up and down the stairs. So I was
Speaker 5: not like just going up and downstairs in my house
Speaker 5: willy nilly, Like going up and down the stairs is
Speaker 5: actually a pretty slow and arduous process. So I was like,
Speaker 5: it's not like I would have just gone downstairs and
Speaker 5: forgot about it and turned on the lights and been like,
Speaker 5: oh oops, you know, because I was like, I was
Speaker 5: like an eighty year old woman going up and down
Speaker 5: those stairs, even just to let my dog outside. So
Speaker 5: you know, it was just kind of weird. And again
Speaker 5: I didn't really mention anything to my husband.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 5: Finally, like there was one night where things just it
Speaker 5: got a little scary because, like we started noticing that
Speaker 5: there would be times where my son, we would put
Speaker 5: him in his crib and we would check the baby
Speaker 5: monitor and they're like he would have the little, you know,
Speaker 5: the little burp cloths that we used to kind of
Speaker 5: wipe his face after we feed him, and there would
Speaker 5: be a burp cloth in the crib with him, and
Speaker 5: we would be like, oh, what the heck, you know,
Speaker 5: And again, it's like we were kind of blaming ourselves
Speaker 5: for just like not paying attention and you know, not
Speaker 5: thinking about it and just putting him in his crib,
Speaker 5: and you know, it started kind of freaking me out
Speaker 5: a little bit because obviously, you know, that's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 5: You know, you especially a young baby, You don't want
Speaker 5: them in the crib with anything that could potentially cover
Speaker 5: their faces and you know, potentially suffocate them or anything
Speaker 5: like that. So we were just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 5: like me and my husband were kind of saying to
Speaker 5: each other, like, dude, make sure you're not putting him
Speaker 5: in the crib with the burp cloth, Like come on,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, we got to make sure that
Speaker 5: we're being like vigilant about that. And so There was
Speaker 5: one night that I was feeding our son and my
Speaker 5: husband was already in our bedroom. And it sounds so silly,
Speaker 5: but like I have, I was actually like talking out
Speaker 5: loud to myself, like to make sure that I was,
Speaker 5: you know, doing everything. I was like, Okay, I finished
Speaker 5: feeding our son. I am putting him in the crib,
Speaker 5: like I was narrating everything that I was doing, like
Speaker 5: not only for myself but also like my husband could
Speaker 5: hear over the baby monitor from the other room, and
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, the burn brag is right there.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at it right now. It is on the
Speaker 5: bedside table, nowhere near him. I'm double checking the crib.
Speaker 5: There is no birdcloth in the crib with him, okay.
Speaker 5: And I walk out of the room, and you know,
Speaker 5: for about ten minutes, my husband and I are laying
Speaker 5: in bed, you know, talking to each other, watching tiktoks,
Speaker 5: you know, just kind of hanging out. And I say
Speaker 5: to my husband, I'm like, hey, can you check the
Speaker 5: baby monitor and see how he's doing. My husband checks
Speaker 5: the baby monitor and he's like.
Speaker 4: Dude, what the heck?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what, what's wrong? And he shows me
Speaker 5: the baby monitor and our son has a burp cloth
Speaker 5: on top of him, literally right under his chin, and
Speaker 5: I was so upset, I mean I was almost near tears,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you heard me, Like you heard
Speaker 5: me talking to myself like an idiot, narrating everything that
Speaker 5: I was doing. I was like, it's impossible. It's literally
Speaker 5: impossible for that to have happened. And that's kind of
Speaker 5: what forced me to open up to my husband about
Speaker 5: the word experience is that I was having in the house.
Speaker 5: And he was like, well, awesome, because like he's a
Speaker 5: good Catholic boy, you know, he doesn't really believe in
Speaker 5: that stuff. Well he does, let me refrain that he
Speaker 5: believes in it, he just doesn't want to mess with it.
Speaker 5: And he's like one of those people where he's like
Speaker 5: if it exists, fine, but I don't want to acknowledge it,
Speaker 5: don't want to mess with it, don't want any part
Speaker 5: of it. No, thank you.
Speaker 2: And he was like.
Speaker 5: Awesome, Like what are we going to do about this?
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't know because I don't
Speaker 5: even know like what it is. I mean, the only
Speaker 5: thing that I could tie it to was us bringing
Speaker 5: our son home from the hospital. But like, it doesn't
Speaker 5: make any sense, and I was like kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: when we were just kind of talking about it, and
Speaker 5: and you know, we just really weren't sure what the
Speaker 5: next steps were. The only thing was that we were
Speaker 5: just kind of upset about what was going on and
Speaker 5: the potential, you know, the fact that it was now
Speaker 5: potentially a safety issue, you know, for our child. And
Speaker 5: that was kind of when I realized, I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: any indication or any possibility that this was like one
Speaker 5: of my you know, loving grandparents or something before, well,
Speaker 5: now we definitely know it's not one of them. You know,
Speaker 5: that just kind of verified it. So, you know, we
Speaker 5: didn't really think too you know, we we were kind
Speaker 5: of like we didn't really know where to go from there.
Speaker 5: And then things kind of fell into place where the
Speaker 5: realization really started coming over us. Because so about a
Speaker 5: year before I even had my son, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of to rewind a little bit about a year before
Speaker 5: I had my son, you know, my parents are now empty.
Speaker 5: Me and all my siblings are out of the house.
Speaker 5: We're married, we have kids. My parents are now like
Speaker 5: kind of you know, alone in the house that we
Speaker 5: were raised in, and now they're trying to like get
Speaker 5: rid of all the stuff in their house now and
Speaker 5: kind of like give us the stuff that we used
Speaker 5: to have when we were kids, and you know, they're
Speaker 5: kind of like pushing it on us now where they're like,
Speaker 5: take all our stuff now. So about a year before
Speaker 5: my son was born, and we were over at my parents'
Speaker 5: house and my mom was like, hey, I've got this
Speaker 5: box full of like old board games that you used
Speaker 5: to have when you were a little girl. Do you
Speaker 5: want them? And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever, why not?
Speaker 5: And she brings out like this box of board games.
Speaker 5: And included in this box of board games was my
Speaker 5: old Ouiji board, so like I know, and you know,
Speaker 5: the typical like old nineties, you know, og board. And
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, thanks, and I put it in
Speaker 5: the back of my car. And when we got in
Speaker 5: the car, my husband was you were not bringing that
Speaker 5: Weuji board inside the house. And I was like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, it's fine, don't worry about it. He's like, no,
Speaker 5: I don't want that thing inside the house. I don't
Speaker 5: like that stuff. Don't want to associated with it. No,
Speaker 5: thank you. So, you know, we we get home and
Speaker 5: me being me, I totally forget about this box of
Speaker 5: board games in the back of my car for literally
Speaker 5: an entire year. Like I don't. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 5: really drive that much. I've actually worked from home full
Speaker 5: time for the past three years, so even when there's
Speaker 5: not a pandemic going on, I don't really I'm not
Speaker 5: a commuter. I worked from home.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It was one of those things where I just kind
Speaker 5: of kept I kept forgetting that it was in there.
Speaker 5: Like I would be like, oh, you know, floating up
Speaker 5: groceries in the back of my car, and I'd be like,
Speaker 5: I should bring that inside the house over again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: So I just I just totally, yeah, totally kept forgetting
Speaker 5: about it until right before my son was born. We
Speaker 5: were kind of doing the final preparations for getting, you know,
Speaker 5: a baby into the house, and we took a child
Speaker 5: care class, and you know, a lot of that had
Speaker 5: to do with safety, and they said, I mean, it's
Speaker 5: good to to kind of put in to practice anyway,
Speaker 5: but especially if you have a child in your car,
Speaker 5: you should take out anything that isn't tied down, because
Speaker 5: God forbid, in the event that you're in an accident,
Speaker 5: anything that's loose in your car could become a projectile,
Speaker 5: which makes a car crash even more dangerous, especially to
Speaker 5: a child who doesn't have reflexes. So that's what we did.
Speaker 5: Me and my husband went into our car and we
Speaker 5: took everything out, you know, coffee mugs, cups, tools, like,
Speaker 5: anything that was in our car that wasn't like nailed down. Essentially,
Speaker 5: we you know, brought inside. And that included the box
Speaker 5: of stuff and the Ouiji board. And again I listened
Speaker 5: to my husband and I was like, oh, I'll I
Speaker 5: won't bring it inside the house. We'll bring it inside
Speaker 5: the garage. And again, you know, then I went into
Speaker 5: labor and my son was born, and again kind of
Speaker 5: forgot about it. And it wasn't until like one night again,
Speaker 5: a couple nights after the whole burpcloth situation happened with
Speaker 5: my son, where my husband he kind of like walked
Speaker 5: in the room and he was like, hey, when did
Speaker 5: you say all this stuff started happening? And I was like, like,
Speaker 5: right after we brought our son home from the hospital.
Speaker 5: And he's like, you mean when you brought the Wigie
Speaker 5: board inside the garage And I was like, oh uh yeah, oop, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're right, and he's like he's like, oh, my god.
Speaker 5: He's like, we need to get rid of this. This
Speaker 5: is ridiculous, Like you need to get rid of this.
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay. I was like, let me
Speaker 5: talk to my friend again, the same girl who was
Speaker 5: you know, who is kind of well versed in dealing
Speaker 5: with these kinds of situations. And I was like, I
Speaker 5: want to make sure that we do this properly, so
Speaker 5: let me talk to her, let me see what we
Speaker 5: can do. Because then I started getting really freaked out,
Speaker 5: like what the hell did we invite into our home
Speaker 5: with this thing? And That's the thing is like, even
Speaker 5: though I've had that Wuji board for a long time,
Speaker 5: I don't really have any like specific memories of ever
Speaker 5: really using it, you know, Like I mean, I'm thirty
Speaker 5: two years old, so the last time I probably used
Speaker 5: it was over twenty years ago. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: they did at some point, who knows, but you know,
Speaker 5: I yeah. So it's like I'm like, I don't really
Speaker 5: have any scary memories of it or anything like, oh man,
Speaker 5: remember that one time we used the Ouiji board and
Speaker 5: you know, such and such happened. So but I I
Speaker 5: mean again, it's like it is possible that you know
Speaker 5: one of my siblings used it, or I mean maybe
Speaker 5: my parents did use that. I have no idea, but
Speaker 5: it's like that was the only thing that we could
Speaker 5: think of being attached to the house.
Speaker 1: So did you get rid of it or.
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 1: Did you get rid of it?
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the funny part is after we
Speaker 5: so when my husband was like, you think it was
Speaker 5: the Ouiji board, and I was like, oh, no, I
Speaker 5: think it might be. I actually later that night went
Speaker 5: out to the garage to throw something away because that's
Speaker 5: where we keep our garbage bins and we also keep
Speaker 5: We don't really park in our garage. It's a little
Speaker 5: bit too small and we like my husband has like
Speaker 5: tools in there and a bunch of other stuff, so
Speaker 5: which is kind of a we just park in the driveway.
Speaker 5: We don't park in our garage. But in our garage
Speaker 5: we have my sons stroller and on the stroller we
Speaker 5: have this little portable fan that we use for when
Speaker 5: we take them for walks and if it's a little
Speaker 5: bit hot outside, well, I walk out into the garage
Speaker 5: and this fan on my son's stroller is turned up
Speaker 5: to full blast, and this thing is like, you know,
Speaker 5: it's one of those rechargeable fans, and it doesn't have
Speaker 5: that long of a battery life, so it's not like
Speaker 5: it was going all that time because it would have
Speaker 5: died out. And I walk back in the house and
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, husband, did you turn the fan on
Speaker 5: our son's stroller? And he was like why and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: no reason, and I was and he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: what is going on? And I was like, it's on
Speaker 5: full blast out there right now. I was like, you
Speaker 5: better not be messing with me right now, even though
Speaker 5: I knew he hadn't been out there and neither of
Speaker 5: us had been out there. And he's like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And he's like, I don't like this stuff. I don't
Speaker 5: like this stuff. This is why I don't like this stuff.
Speaker 5: And he's just like and I'm like, okay, all right, well,
Speaker 5: good to know that you didn't do this. All right, awesome?
Speaker 5: And that was very scary because it was almost kind
Speaker 5: of to me. It was almost like a message of like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I know you talking about me where I came from.
Speaker 4: And I was just like, oh geez.
Speaker 5: Well, So I kept saying to my husband, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm like, let me do this the proper way, you know,
Speaker 5: because that's always how people get into trouble with wigi
Speaker 5: boards in the first place, right is they don't close
Speaker 5: out the board properly or they don't make their intentions clear.
Speaker 5: So I was like, let me make sure I do
Speaker 5: this the right way. Well, the next day was garbage day,
Speaker 5: and my husband was so sick of it that he
Speaker 5: took the wigi board and he threw it out into
Speaker 5: the trash before he rolled the garbage cans down to
Speaker 5: the curb for the garbage man to come back up.
Speaker 5: So he took care of that problem because he was
Speaker 5: just like again, he's just he's very serious and he's
Speaker 5: just kind of like no nonsense when it comes to
Speaker 5: that stuff, and he's like, I don't care, Like now
Speaker 5: this thing potentially like knows and he's like, I just
Speaker 5: I don't want it. I don't want it. So the
Speaker 5: next day, when I found that out, you know, I did,
Speaker 5: I did sage the house and kind of talk out
Speaker 5: loud and just say like, hey, you know, we don't
Speaker 5: want you here. If you're a bad spirit, you know, GTFO.
Speaker 5: If you're a good spirit, sorry, but we don't really
Speaker 5: want you here. Either no more, yeah, right, like get out, goodbye.
Speaker 5: And you know, I will say, thankfully, that really kind
Speaker 5: of seemed to take care of it. We haven't had
Speaker 5: anything weird happening at all, you know that that's that
Speaker 5: seemed to be the trick that kind of ended it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, super weird and that.
Speaker 5: Was this is actually it was our experience.
Speaker 3: This is very validating for me because I don't know
Speaker 3: if you ever heard me tell my story like this,
Speaker 3: but you know, I acquired a Ouiji board that I
Speaker 3: never used, and things like this were happening around my
Speaker 3: place and then I just threw it away. And when
Speaker 3: I was in the thick of it, I didn't know
Speaker 3: what to do, and I also was I wanted to
Speaker 3: make sure I did it the right way, and I
Speaker 3: just decided ultimately, I mean, I was your husband in
Speaker 3: this situation, and I just threw it in the dumpster
Speaker 3: and everything luckily ended.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe sometimes that works. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: all you need to do sometimes.
Speaker 5: Right, Like it's almost like the physical action of like
Speaker 5: tossing it and just being like nope, don't watch you here,
Speaker 5: Like maybe that maybe actually works. There's a ghost in
Speaker 5: my house.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 5: Is this Peter?
Speaker 1: Yes, it is Peter, my first person from Australia on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Really first one.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm honored. Thank you for waking up so early.
Speaker 2: No problem at all. Seem so excited to do this.
Speaker 3: Me too, so I want to hear about Okay, you
Speaker 3: sent me two stories and I was absolutely blown away
Speaker 3: by especially the Wiji one.
Speaker 1: But let's do. Let's do the first one, which is
Speaker 1: your family home when you were young. Yes, what happened there?
Speaker 2: So I was about thirteen twelve, thirteen years of age
Speaker 2: and we bought our parents for their wedding anniversary screen
Speaker 2: security doors for the house. As you know in australia's
Speaker 2: very hot in summer, and it's very good to have
Speaker 2: these doors. Security doors attached to the house. Then you
Speaker 2: don't need to close the main doors so you can
Speaker 2: let the breeze through. But my mother never ever wanted
Speaker 2: to lock them, so they were security doors. She just
Speaker 2: felt safe. One night we'd gone to our auntie's house,
Speaker 2: we returned back to our house and the doors were locked.
Speaker 2: My father hadn't locked them, my mother hadn't locked them,
Speaker 2: neither had my brother. So well walked down to the
Speaker 2: back of the house, and my brother's bedroom window was
Speaker 2: opened and just the jar and he climbed through opened
Speaker 2: the doors, and of course my father went in first,
Speaker 2: checking all the rooms to make sure we hadn't been
Speaker 2: burgled or nothing was unsavory there. My mom went to
Speaker 2: her jewelry, my brother went to his record collection, and
Speaker 2: I just walked through the house. Or the house was
Speaker 2: lit up because my mother turned on all the lights.
Speaker 2: I walked into my bedroom and I could see someone
Speaker 2: laying in my bed. I couldn't physically see a person,
Speaker 2: but I could see the shape underneath the blanket, and
Speaker 2: for some unknown reason, I just jumped into bed and
Speaker 2: formed the same shape as that shape.
Speaker 1: I know, you said, some unknown reason, but what I
Speaker 1: don't run.
Speaker 2: I know you think I think I should have ran,
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I just I don't know where.
Speaker 5: I just did it.
Speaker 2: I wasn't scared. And then all of a sudden, my
Speaker 2: mum walked past the bedroom door bedroom, and she said,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? It's too early for bed, and
Speaker 2: I just stood up out of the bed. I was
Speaker 2: She said, oh my god, you're so pale. I was shaking.
Speaker 2: And then that was it. It just left me. Whatever happened.
Speaker 2: I just felt normal again. And I guess because I
Speaker 2: was only thirteen, I didn't really understand what was happening,
Speaker 2: so weird. That was yeah, that was fine. My mum
Speaker 2: just laughed it off. I did tell her and she
Speaker 2: just said, oh, you're seeing things, You're just imagining things.
Speaker 2: So that was fine. The next night, it was a
Speaker 2: Monday night, I recall it clearly, and my sister and
Speaker 2: her husband had come over for dinner. Were all in
Speaker 2: the kitchen preparing the meal, was about to serve it up.
Speaker 2: I was making the sauce, my brother in law was
Speaker 2: carving the meat, my sister was doing vegetables or my
Speaker 2: mother was doing vegetables, and we're all in the kitchen
Speaker 2: area and then all of a sudden, the fridge started
Speaker 2: to vibrate and make a noise. We all sort of looked,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, within inside the fridge,
Speaker 2: we could hear things being moved. So my brother in
Speaker 2: law went to open the fridge door and he grabbed
Speaker 2: the handle and it just wouldn't open, and he was
Speaker 2: trying to force it, but it wasn't budging. Then suddenly
Speaker 2: the noise that came from within was just like a
Speaker 2: mini hurricane or cyclone was inside the fridge. We could
Speaker 2: hear bottles clanging hitting each other, We could hear things
Speaker 2: falling over, we could hear liquid beings splashed. We could
Speaker 2: just hear this terrible, terrible grapp No, it wasn't it.
Speaker 2: It was like a groaning noise, just a midst of
Speaker 2: all these bottles and other noises from the things inside
Speaker 2: the fridge. We all just stood there in amazement. My
Speaker 2: brother in law couldn't open the fridge, and then suddenly
Speaker 2: the fridge just flew open and nothing was a miss
Speaker 2: in the fridge. Everything was still perfectly How was before
Speaker 2: this noise?
Speaker 3: WHOA, That's like an magic trick.
Speaker 2: It really was, because if you could hear the noise,
Speaker 2: like we could hear bottles smashing, we could hear it.
Speaker 2: The four of us were standing there, we could hear
Speaker 2: the noise. We knew something was happening in the fridge.
Speaker 2: It was like there was an earthquake. But I mean,
Speaker 2: we don't get earthquakes in Sydney, so it was just bizarre.
Speaker 2: And we just were so shocked by it that we
Speaker 2: couldn't talk, and we just continued preparing the food. Walked
Speaker 2: to the dining table started to eat in silence, and
Speaker 2: then my mother bursted out laughing, and that just broke
Speaker 2: broke the air.
Speaker 1: Did she believe you then about the maybe four?
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. She's a very hard woman.
Speaker 2: She doesn't believe in anything like that paranormal. And you know,
Speaker 2: I hadn't ventured into it. I didn't understand. You know,
Speaker 2: of course I watched horror films, but I didn't really
Speaker 2: into anything two years later, so I didn't really understand it,
Speaker 2: and I just dismissed it.
Speaker 1: So did things continue to happen or was that the
Speaker 1: end of it?
Speaker 2: That was it two days, the Sunday and the Monday,
Speaker 2: and that was it in that house. Nothing else happened.
Speaker 1: So do you what do you think like triggered it was?
Speaker 1: It was the doors or what was it?
Speaker 2: I don't know because my parents had actually built the house,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't as if, you know, someone had died
Speaker 2: in there previously or anything like that. I've read that.
Speaker 2: You know, it usually does happen to females, but when
Speaker 2: they're thirteen years old hitting puberty, poltergeist can come into
Speaker 2: the house. Yeah, maybe maybe it was some pulter I
Speaker 2: don't know, because as I said, it only lasted two days, and.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was just a ghost that was like tired,
Speaker 3: laid into your bed. Then it was like can I'm hungry,
Speaker 3: went to your fridge, and then it was like here,
Speaker 3: these people don't even.
Speaker 2: Believe in me exactly. That's probably be more the truth.
Speaker 1: So tell me the Wiji story.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a big one. This was many
Speaker 2: years later. I was living in London and my friend
Speaker 2: and I had left London to go live in Spain,
Speaker 2: and then we were suddenly oh she was she'd applied
Speaker 2: for a job and back in London, but we had
Speaker 2: already gone to Spain, and then they called her and
Speaker 2: asked us to return. So we returned back to London.
Speaker 2: We had nowhere to stay because we'd given up our apartment,
Speaker 2: but our friend she was house sitting and she said,
Speaker 2: come stay with me for a few days until you
Speaker 2: get back on your feet. So she was living in
Speaker 2: black Fries, which is in the heart of London, and
Speaker 2: it's in the city district. It's just high rises, not apartments,
Speaker 2: and that's about There's not much going for It's on
Speaker 2: the Thames. It's quite stark, gray, not a very attractive area.
Speaker 2: And so that night we'd gone out drinking as you do,
Speaker 2: celebrating that we'd come back to London. We turned back
Speaker 2: to my friend's apartment and she said, let's do a seiance.
Speaker 2: She had previously done one with me months and months before,
Speaker 2: so I was still extremely skeptical of sciances. So she
Speaker 2: made the reagible, just cutting up letters and the words
Speaker 2: yes and no and numbers. We've got glasses. She felt
Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing, so she might say
Speaker 2: the Lord's Prayer, she licked candles, she had the correct
Speaker 2: music on. She felt like she knew what she was doing,
Speaker 2: so we started. She started asking if anyone was there,
Speaker 2: and nothing was happening at first, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the glass our three fingers because it was servius.
Speaker 2: The glass was moving to letters two letters at a time,
Speaker 2: for example like PK, JD T Z. Just we couldn't
Speaker 2: understand it. Then. I can't remember which one of us thought.
Speaker 2: We said, are they initials? And the glass very strongly
Speaker 2: moved to yes. So sometimes the glass would move around
Speaker 2: the table and it would go to someone and for
Speaker 2: some reason, like I just knew I had to ask
Speaker 2: questions so we This was going on for half an hour,
Speaker 2: and then we gathered that all of the people that
Speaker 2: were coming through, because it was crazy for that first
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, that it was a black death. People had
Speaker 2: died here because of the plague. And when we said that,
Speaker 2: the class automatically went to yes. So we all right,
Speaker 2: that's fine, we know someone had people had died around
Speaker 2: this area hundreds of years ago. My friend who's Spanish,
Speaker 2: she spoke Spanish because people came through and she just
Speaker 2: had the feeling that she had to speak Spanish. I
Speaker 2: for some reason, I don't know why, I felt I
Speaker 2: had a new not a newborn, but I had a
Speaker 2: baby in my arms, and I asked this this was
Speaker 2: a baby, and it said yes. It was just bizarre,
Speaker 2: like so many entities or spirits were coming through. And
Speaker 2: then suddenly the glass went to our fingers on it
Speaker 2: went to fog. Keep spilling the word from and of
Speaker 2: course we're laughing, oh, yes, you know the fogs always
Speaker 2: in London, Jack the Ripper Times, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 2: we were just sort of laughing it off. But the
Speaker 2: glass kept going fog. F I do very very strong,
Speaker 2: and with the three of us all taking fingers off
Speaker 2: the glass at a time just to see the other
Speaker 2: one wasn't pushing it, and then suddenly the glass just
Speaker 2: flew off and hit me in my chest. It was
Speaker 2: only like a little glass, but it just shocked us all.
Speaker 2: And then we said, okay, let's stop it now, so
Speaker 2: we My friend said what she had to say, she'd
Speaker 2: get out of the seance. I was, of course shaken
Speaker 2: just why the glass had hit me, so we went
Speaker 2: to bed. I had a sleepless night, obviously because I
Speaker 2: was just wired by what had happened. So I did
Speaker 2: get up at about six in the morning. I thought
Speaker 2: I would make the girls breakfast, so I had to
Speaker 2: go to the shops. So grab the keys, walked out
Speaker 2: of the building, and then realized that, you know, this
Speaker 2: is in the city. There's no shops around, so I
Speaker 2: had to walk quite a few blocks till I found something.
Speaker 2: And I came across a CHAOSK sevent eleven sort of
Speaker 2: shop and it was selling had like a petrol area
Speaker 2: to drive in, and then the shop itself. So I
Speaker 2: walked in there, grabbed the little basket, thought I'll get
Speaker 2: some breakfast producee and then I heard loud popping sounds,
Speaker 2: so I thought it's weird noise, and I looked at
Speaker 2: the window, couldn't see anything. There was another woman in
Speaker 2: the shop. I saw her pop her head up over
Speaker 2: the aisle and looked out the window as well. So
Speaker 2: we heard about four three or four pops, very loud pops.
Speaker 2: So that was it. We didn't say anything. Then I
Speaker 2: came to the checkout and she was in front of me,
Speaker 2: and she was a older woman, and she had ten
Speaker 2: cans of cat food. I just remember she had all
Speaker 2: this cat food. So she put it up on the counter.
Speaker 2: The main scanned it or whatever he did, wrung it
Speaker 2: up on the register, and then suddenly we heard the
Speaker 2: pop noise again and the door opened up right in
Speaker 2: front of us. This man just stood there and said help,
Speaker 2: and we looked at him, and then we heard another
Speaker 2: pop and then we saw blood splatter in the back
Speaker 2: of his neck. He fell down. We sort of dragged
Speaker 2: him in and then understanding, oh my god, this is
Speaker 2: gunshots and you know, this is London back in the
Speaker 2: early nineties, which was unheard of, well for me, yeah,
Speaker 2: tourists living there, and so we dragged him in. I
Speaker 2: saw him go from a normal color, just to pale.
Speaker 2: He just went so pale. And then we heard this
Speaker 2: noise of a car, and the woman who was buying
Speaker 2: the cat food, she yelled out to the shop assistant
Speaker 2: get the license plate number. So we're trying to can't
Speaker 2: this man down because he's sort of not knowing what's happened.
Speaker 2: Then he stood up and we're yelling at him to
Speaker 2: lay down in case, you know, the guvernment's still out there,
Speaker 2: and then the shop assistant yells out two. He was
Speaker 2: recite reading the license plate on the car to fgive four.
Speaker 2: And from that moment it's a bit of a blur.
Speaker 2: I've tried to understand. I know the man left. He
Speaker 2: wouldn't stay in the shop with us. He was covered
Speaker 2: in blood, but he walked back out. He got into
Speaker 2: a car and then he drove down the road. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: he crashed it like about you know, a minute later,
Speaker 2: because you know, he was bleeding so severely. The shop
Speaker 2: assistant said to us, guys, I'm calling the police, but
Speaker 2: if you want to stay, you can stay. If you
Speaker 2: want to leave, get out now. So I thought this
Speaker 2: is a best thing for me to get out. I
Speaker 2: don't remember paying for the goods but I must not
Speaker 2: because I had they were put in a shopping bag.
Speaker 2: All I remember is getting back to the apartment block,
Speaker 2: and by this time it must have been seven am.
Speaker 2: They had a dormanon and he looked at me and
Speaker 2: he said, are you okay? And that's when I realized,
Speaker 2: like I came to, I can't remember walking home by
Speaker 2: just getting back to my senses. It was when that
Speaker 2: dorman said, they go okay, and I looked and realized
Speaker 2: I had blood on me, and I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just saw I helped someone in an accident, walked
Speaker 2: inside to their apartment, and that was it. Just the
Speaker 2: shock hit me. My friends had were awake there having coffee.
Speaker 2: They were trying to tell me, we're trying to see
Speaker 2: what had happened to me, and I couldn't make sense
Speaker 2: because I was just, you know, upset and shaking and
Speaker 2: just just in shock. So they gave me a drink
Speaker 2: of whisky to calm me down, and then I told
Speaker 2: them the story and we all sat there in disbelief
Speaker 2: for hours until we went back. I said, let's go
Speaker 2: back to the shop so I can see this really happened,
Speaker 2: because for some reason, it was just too paranormal to
Speaker 2: weed to unreal that you know, I had been given
Speaker 2: these letters the night before and then this major incident
Speaker 2: happens in my life revolving involving these letters.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, it is.
Speaker 2: So we went back to the shop and the guy agreed.
Speaker 2: He said a drug deal that had gone wrong of
Speaker 2: some sort, and you know, the I had crashed the
Speaker 2: car and that was it. It was on the news
Speaker 2: that evening because you know, guns weren't a big crime.
Speaker 2: We weren't a big thing in London at the time,
Speaker 2: so it was on the news. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know if maybe one of the bullets were meant for me,
Speaker 2: if I'd walked out the shop a minute earlier, I
Speaker 2: could have been hit by a bullet, if the spirits
Speaker 2: were trying to tell me something, I really don't know.
Speaker 1: Wow, either way, it's an incredible story.
Speaker 2: Honestly, when I tell people about it, they just in shock.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it, but you know, I have witnesses
Speaker 2: and I just can't work out why, Like why, what
Speaker 2: was the purpose of it? Yeah, you know, I'd love
Speaker 2: to find out, but we were too scared to ever
Speaker 2: do a sounce a getting that apartment block.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Hello, Hi ros Hi Annie? How are you?
Speaker 6: I'mkay?
Speaker 1: How are you so good? Where are you?
Speaker 4: I am in Dover, New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well I was reading the email you sent me and
Speaker 3: you were talking about some haunted house you lived in.
Speaker 1: What is going on with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I grew up in a house in Rochester, New Hampshire.
Speaker 6: It was built in the seventeen hundreds. It was actually
Speaker 6: built before the town records, so we're not even sure
Speaker 6: like exactly how old it is or what happened there. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, had lots of spooky stuff happen when
Speaker 6: I was growing up and even as like a young adult.
Speaker 3: Well so did your family live there, Like were you
Speaker 3: born in that house or did you move into it later?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, I lived there my whole life up until like
Speaker 6: my early twenties, so it was like.
Speaker 1: Kind of always known that it was haunted.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean my parents would say like that my sister
Speaker 6: and I were imagining it, but like I totally believe
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 1: Oh so your parents never experienced it.
Speaker 6: I mean they they say they didn't, but I mean
Speaker 6: my mom was there one time when we heard stomping
Speaker 6: in an empty room, and she called for my dad,
Speaker 6: who like came and confirmed that there was like nobody
Speaker 6: in that room. So like, I don't know, I think
Speaker 6: I think they just didn't want to believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so what are some of the things that
Speaker 1: happened to you?
Speaker 6: Oh so my sister and I both heard like a
Speaker 6: little girl's voice pretty frequently, like she'd be like talking
Speaker 6: or singing.
Speaker 1: What would she be talking about?
Speaker 6: Oh, we we didn't hear any any like actual words.
Speaker 6: We just hear like from the other room, Like.
Speaker 1: Well that's enough. That's enough for me be terrified. Was
Speaker 1: she singing? What was she singing?
Speaker 6: Like like generic creepy child horror movie sing sings me things?
Speaker 1: Oh god, So did you ever see her?
Speaker 4: I kind of had a funny experience in my twenties.
Speaker 6: I was sitting by this tree, this maple tree that
Speaker 6: I really liked, super old, big tree, and I like
Speaker 6: closed my eyes and like I envisioned like this like
Speaker 6: maple tree, little girl, like kind of fairy creature. So
Speaker 6: I don't really know what that was about her, if
Speaker 6: it was just my imagination, but I was I was like,
Speaker 6: maybe there's something to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. What was this that happened during
Speaker 1: a slumber party.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was really creepy and a lot of
Speaker 6: my friends remember that. So we were hanging out in
Speaker 6: my bedroom. This was like in middle school, and we
Speaker 6: were sitting by this like creepy little closet that I
Speaker 6: never used, and we just heard, like from the other
Speaker 6: side of the door, knock, knock, knock, and we all
Speaker 6: went completely silent. And then we heard it again, knock
Speaker 6: kN knock, and we were so spooked we like ran downstairs.
Speaker 6: I think we ended up sleeping downstairs that night.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people think that three knocks are
Speaker 1: the devil.
Speaker 2: Ooh.
Speaker 1: I did not know that that's what people say.
Speaker 3: I mean people that believe that route they think that
Speaker 3: demons do three knocks because it is kind of their
Speaker 3: way of I guess you.
Speaker 1: I guess what I've been told was sort of like
Speaker 1: they're making fun of the Trinity?
Speaker 3: Is that what we would say, the Father, the Son,
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit. It's like, there, that's what I've heard,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. That's just what paranormal TV shows
Speaker 3: tell me.
Speaker 1: But it did it seem like it was something evil.
Speaker 6: I think at the time we thought it was like
Speaker 6: a demon come to get us. But like, after I
Speaker 6: stopped being afraid of like spirits, I was kind of
Speaker 6: interpreted more as like a playful kind of thing. Like
Speaker 6: it was like a group of girls all hanging out
Speaker 6: having fun, like and if there was a little girl's spirit,
Speaker 6: I imagine that she maybe would have wanted to join
Speaker 6: in on that.
Speaker 1: How many girls were over? I think it was around
Speaker 1: three see three three girls, three knocks?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think it was it at three am?
Speaker 3: Because you know that, but that would just make it perfect.
Speaker 6: No, it was it was probably like around nine thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh so it was still early.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting. What about sleep paralysis there?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so that used to happen to me all
Speaker 6: the time and it's never happened ever since. But yeah,
Speaker 6: there was one night my friend and I were sleeping
Speaker 6: in our living room and I had sleep paralysis that
Speaker 6: night and felt like a force was like trying to
Speaker 6: take over my body. And that same night, my friend
Speaker 6: said that she saw somebody like walk by the door.
Speaker 6: And then we were so freaked out when she like
Speaker 6: mentioned it and we realized that we were the only
Speaker 6: people there that.
Speaker 1: Night, So who was that?
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 1: Also a little girl or somebody else.
Speaker 6: Well, she thought it was my mom, So I think
Speaker 6: it must have been like, you know, tall enough to
Speaker 6: be a mom.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: I was also reading that you were telling me about
Speaker 3: what your sister had had some experiences, what happened with
Speaker 3: her with a plush toyeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so she acknowledges that this might have been a dream,
Speaker 6: but she just remembers it like it actually happened when
Speaker 6: she was really little. Her stuffed animals like became illuminated
Speaker 6: with like a glowing electric blue light and started dancing
Speaker 6: around her room.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I didn't mean to laugh like at her,
Speaker 3: but that's just that's kind of a cool visual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be worse.
Speaker 3: But then I was then I was reading more about
Speaker 3: what you were setting me, and then you're talking about
Speaker 3: you saw something blue too, You saw an electric blue
Speaker 3: gritting face.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was like in my twenties. I opened
Speaker 6: my eyes and I just saw this like glowing blue
Speaker 6: face like hovering over my face, smiling at me. It
Speaker 6: kind of looked like a like a jack O lantern face,
Speaker 6: like the eyes in the mouth where the were the
Speaker 6: only things, and they were the ones that were glowing,
Speaker 6: and I was just like and then I was like, well,
Speaker 6: I mean I've made it this far and I've only
Speaker 6: had like good experiences, so I'm sure there was just
Speaker 6: some cheeky spirit coming to creep me out a little.
Speaker 4: So I just went back to sleep.
Speaker 1: So what do we think? How many spirits do we
Speaker 1: think are in there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I it seems like a girl, a grinning face, a
Speaker 1: mom height.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, because like I did have
Speaker 6: times where I was like uncomfortable, like all the times
Speaker 6: we had sleep paralysis, but I think there was a
Speaker 6: lot of times where I felt like very comfortable and
Speaker 6: like there was a lot of good energy there.
Speaker 3: So, but you guys don't know the exact history when
Speaker 3: it comes to like people dying there or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: But is your family still there?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, my mom sold the house a couple of.
Speaker 3: Years ago, and so she never really had an experience
Speaker 3: other than that stomping.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. She's she's like a tough broad though,
Speaker 6: so I feel like even if she did experience something,
Speaker 6: she'd be like, oh, it must have been the wind.
Speaker 1: But one if it's like a face hovering over you
Speaker 1: when you're sleeping. She's like, Oh, it's just the wind. Yeah, right, crazy.
Speaker 1: So had you had any other experiences?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just remembered when that was really scary. When
Speaker 6: it happened, I was like I was in middle school
Speaker 6: and I was home by myself for some reason, and
Speaker 6: this was probably in the evening, like I don't know,
Speaker 6: four or five o'clock, and this was back in the
Speaker 6: day when we had answering machines or yeah, without the
Speaker 6: phone ringing. The answering machine like clicked on like somebody
Speaker 6: was leaving a message, and like creepy, heavy breathing started
Speaker 6: coming out of it.
Speaker 1: That's spooky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, that's what I don't understand.
Speaker 3: If this was like seventeen hundreds ghosts, I never understand
Speaker 3: how they can do, like how they know how to
Speaker 3: do an answering machine, right, I don't know because I've
Speaker 3: seen those videos on YouTube where it's like kids trying
Speaker 3: to figure out what an answering machine is or a
Speaker 3: VHS tape and they can't even figure it out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can imagine like a seventeen hundreds ghost trying to
Speaker 3: figure out how to do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it was like a seventies ghost or something.
Speaker 1: It could be. But when when did your parents move
Speaker 1: in there?
Speaker 6: They moved it.
Speaker 4: Eighty seven, I think eighty eight, so.
Speaker 1: We don't know. It could have been a seventies ghost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too.
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