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Speaker 3: Talk to four fantastic listeners of this show. First up,

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, is this Kathleen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure, thank you for being here. This is Caitlin, right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it is hi, Caitlin.

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Speaker 5: I am outside of Chicago, Illinois. Love it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, awesome. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty fun. You know,

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I'm sure that had to be pretty wild.

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Speaker 3: But then when I was reading your email, you were

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Speaker 5: Preface it by saying, we've never had anything weird happen

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Speaker 5: rules to you know, make sure that you stay safe

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00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: and healthy with your incision as it's healing, and you know,

436
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: to not injure yourself or put a lot of pressure

437
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: on your incision while you're you know, healing post childbirth.

438
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: And one of the main things that they tell you

439
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 5: is like try to limit the amount of times that

440
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 5: you go up and down the stairs. So I was

441
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: not like just going up and downstairs in my house

442
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 5: willy nilly, Like going up and down the stairs is

443
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 5: actually a pretty slow and arduous process. So I was like,

444
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: it's not like I would have just gone downstairs and

445
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 5: forgot about it and turned on the lights and been like,

446
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: oh oops, you know, because I was like, I was

447
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: like an eighty year old woman going up and down

448
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 5: those stairs, even just to let my dog outside. So

449
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: you know, it was just kind of weird. And again

450
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 5: I didn't really mention anything to my husband.

451
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: And then.

452
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 5: Finally, like there was one night where things just it

453
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: got a little scary because, like we started noticing that

454
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 5: there would be times where my son, we would put

455
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: him in his crib and we would check the baby

456
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 5: monitor and they're like he would have the little, you know,

457
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 5: the little burp cloths that we used to kind of

458
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: wipe his face after we feed him, and there would

459
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 5: be a burp cloth in the crib with him, and

460
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 5: we would be like, oh, what the heck, you know,

461
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 5: And again, it's like we were kind of blaming ourselves

462
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 5: for just like not paying attention and you know, not

463
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 5: thinking about it and just putting him in his crib,

464
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: and you know, it started kind of freaking me out

465
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: a little bit because obviously, you know, that's a dangerous thing.

466
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: You know, you especially a young baby, You don't want

467
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 5: them in the crib with anything that could potentially cover

468
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 5: their faces and you know, potentially suffocate them or anything

469
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: like that. So we were just kind of like, you know,

470
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 5: like me and my husband were kind of saying to

471
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: each other, like, dude, make sure you're not putting him

472
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 5: in the crib with the burp cloth, Like come on,

473
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: you know, you know, we got to make sure that

474
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 5: we're being like vigilant about that. And so There was

475
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 5: one night that I was feeding our son and my

476
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: husband was already in our bedroom. And it sounds so silly,

477
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 5: but like I have, I was actually like talking out

478
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 5: loud to myself, like to make sure that I was,

479
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: you know, doing everything. I was like, Okay, I finished

480
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: feeding our son. I am putting him in the crib,

481
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 5: like I was narrating everything that I was doing, like

482
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 5: not only for myself but also like my husband could

483
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: hear over the baby monitor from the other room, and

484
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, the burn brag is right there.

485
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: I'm looking at it right now. It is on the

486
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 5: bedside table, nowhere near him. I'm double checking the crib.

487
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: There is no birdcloth in the crib with him, okay.

488
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: And I walk out of the room, and you know,

489
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: for about ten minutes, my husband and I are laying

490
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 5: in bed, you know, talking to each other, watching tiktoks,

491
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: you know, just kind of hanging out. And I say

492
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 5: to my husband, I'm like, hey, can you check the

493
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 5: baby monitor and see how he's doing. My husband checks

494
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: the baby monitor and he's like.

495
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: Dude, what the heck?

496
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what, what's wrong? And he shows me

497
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 5: the baby monitor and our son has a burp cloth

498
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 5: on top of him, literally right under his chin, and

499
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 5: I was so upset, I mean I was almost near tears,

500
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, you heard me, Like you heard

501
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: me talking to myself like an idiot, narrating everything that

502
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 5: I was doing. I was like, it's impossible. It's literally

503
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: impossible for that to have happened. And that's kind of

504
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: what forced me to open up to my husband about

505
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: the word experience is that I was having in the house.

506
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 5: And he was like, well, awesome, because like he's a

507
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: good Catholic boy, you know, he doesn't really believe in

508
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 5: that stuff. Well he does, let me refrain that he

509
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: believes in it, he just doesn't want to mess with it.

510
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: And he's like one of those people where he's like

511
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: if it exists, fine, but I don't want to acknowledge it,

512
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: don't want to mess with it, don't want any part

513
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: of it. No, thank you.

514
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: And he was like.

515
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: Awesome, Like what are we going to do about this?

516
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't know because I don't

517
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: even know like what it is. I mean, the only

518
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 5: thing that I could tie it to was us bringing

519
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: our son home from the hospital. But like, it doesn't

520
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: make any sense, and I was like kind of, you know,

521
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: when we were just kind of talking about it, and

522
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 5: and you know, we just really weren't sure what the

523
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 5: next steps were. The only thing was that we were

524
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: just kind of upset about what was going on and

525
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 5: the potential, you know, the fact that it was now

526
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: potentially a safety issue, you know, for our child. And

527
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: that was kind of when I realized, I'm like, well,

528
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: any indication or any possibility that this was like one

529
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: of my you know, loving grandparents or something before, well,

530
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: now we definitely know it's not one of them. You know,

531
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: that just kind of verified it. So, you know, we

532
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: didn't really think too you know, we we were kind

533
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 5: of like we didn't really know where to go from there.

534
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: And then things kind of fell into place where the

535
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: realization really started coming over us. Because so about a

536
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: year before I even had my son, you know, kind

537
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: of to rewind a little bit about a year before

538
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 5: I had my son, you know, my parents are now empty.

539
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: Me and all my siblings are out of the house.

540
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: We're married, we have kids. My parents are now like

541
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 5: kind of you know, alone in the house that we

542
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 5: were raised in, and now they're trying to like get

543
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: rid of all the stuff in their house now and

544
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: kind of like give us the stuff that we used

545
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: to have when we were kids, and you know, they're

546
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 5: kind of like pushing it on us now where they're like,

547
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: take all our stuff now. So about a year before

548
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: my son was born, and we were over at my parents'

549
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: house and my mom was like, hey, I've got this

550
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: box full of like old board games that you used

551
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: to have when you were a little girl. Do you

552
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: want them? And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever, why not?

553
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 5: And she brings out like this box of board games.

554
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 5: And included in this box of board games was my

555
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: old Ouiji board, so like I know, and you know,

556
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: the typical like old nineties, you know, og board. And

557
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, thanks, and I put it in

558
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: the back of my car. And when we got in

559
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: the car, my husband was you were not bringing that

560
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: Weuji board inside the house. And I was like, oh

561
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 5: my god, it's fine, don't worry about it. He's like, no,

562
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: I don't want that thing inside the house. I don't

563
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 5: like that stuff. Don't want to associated with it. No,

564
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: thank you. So, you know, we we get home and

565
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: me being me, I totally forget about this box of

566
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: board games in the back of my car for literally

567
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: an entire year. Like I don't. I'm not. I don't

568
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: really drive that much. I've actually worked from home full

569
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: time for the past three years, so even when there's

570
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: not a pandemic going on, I don't really I'm not

571
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: a commuter. I worked from home.

572
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: You know.

573
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: It was one of those things where I just kind

574
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: of kept I kept forgetting that it was in there.

575
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 5: Like I would be like, oh, you know, floating up

576
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: groceries in the back of my car, and I'd be like,

577
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: I should bring that inside the house over again. Yeah, yeah,

578
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: So I just I just totally, yeah, totally kept forgetting

579
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: about it until right before my son was born. We

580
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: were kind of doing the final preparations for getting, you know,

581
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: a baby into the house, and we took a child

582
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: care class, and you know, a lot of that had

583
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: to do with safety, and they said, I mean, it's

584
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: good to to kind of put in to practice anyway,

585
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: but especially if you have a child in your car,

586
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: you should take out anything that isn't tied down, because

587
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: God forbid, in the event that you're in an accident,

588
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: anything that's loose in your car could become a projectile,

589
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: which makes a car crash even more dangerous, especially to

590
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 5: a child who doesn't have reflexes. So that's what we did.

591
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: Me and my husband went into our car and we

592
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: took everything out, you know, coffee mugs, cups, tools, like,

593
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: anything that was in our car that wasn't like nailed down. Essentially,

594
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: we you know, brought inside. And that included the box

595
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: of stuff and the Ouiji board. And again I listened

596
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: to my husband and I was like, oh, I'll I

597
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: won't bring it inside the house. We'll bring it inside

598
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 5: the garage. And again, you know, then I went into

599
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: labor and my son was born, and again kind of

600
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: forgot about it. And it wasn't until like one night again,

601
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: a couple nights after the whole burpcloth situation happened with

602
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 5: my son, where my husband he kind of like walked

603
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: in the room and he was like, hey, when did

604
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 5: you say all this stuff started happening? And I was like, like,

605
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: right after we brought our son home from the hospital.

606
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: And he's like, you mean when you brought the Wigie

607
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: board inside the garage And I was like, oh uh yeah, oop, yeah,

608
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: you're right, and he's like he's like, oh, my god.

609
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: He's like, we need to get rid of this. This

610
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 5: is ridiculous, Like you need to get rid of this.

611
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay. I was like, let me

612
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: talk to my friend again, the same girl who was

613
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 5: you know, who is kind of well versed in dealing

614
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: with these kinds of situations. And I was like, I

615
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: want to make sure that we do this properly, so

616
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: let me talk to her, let me see what we

617
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: can do. Because then I started getting really freaked out,

618
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: like what the hell did we invite into our home

619
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: with this thing? And That's the thing is like, even

620
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 5: though I've had that Wuji board for a long time,

621
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: I don't really have any like specific memories of ever

622
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 5: really using it, you know, Like I mean, I'm thirty

623
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 5: two years old, so the last time I probably used

624
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 5: it was over twenty years ago. I don't know, maybe

625
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: they did at some point, who knows, but you know,

626
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 5: I yeah. So it's like I'm like, I don't really

627
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: have any scary memories of it or anything like, oh man,

628
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 5: remember that one time we used the Ouiji board and

629
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: you know, such and such happened. So but I I

630
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: mean again, it's like it is possible that you know

631
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: one of my siblings used it, or I mean maybe

632
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: my parents did use that. I have no idea, but

633
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: it's like that was the only thing that we could

634
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 5: think of being attached to the house.

635
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: So did you get rid of it or.

636
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: What was that?

637
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Did you get rid of it?

638
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the funny part is after we

639
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: so when my husband was like, you think it was

640
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: the Ouiji board, and I was like, oh, no, I

641
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 5: think it might be. I actually later that night went

642
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 5: out to the garage to throw something away because that's

643
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: where we keep our garbage bins and we also keep

644
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: We don't really park in our garage. It's a little

645
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: bit too small and we like my husband has like

646
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 5: tools in there and a bunch of other stuff, so

647
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: which is kind of a we just park in the driveway.

648
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: We don't park in our garage. But in our garage

649
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: we have my sons stroller and on the stroller we

650
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: have this little portable fan that we use for when

651
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: we take them for walks and if it's a little

652
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: bit hot outside, well, I walk out into the garage

653
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: and this fan on my son's stroller is turned up

654
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 5: to full blast, and this thing is like, you know,

655
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: it's one of those rechargeable fans, and it doesn't have

656
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 5: that long of a battery life, so it's not like

657
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 5: it was going all that time because it would have

658
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: died out. And I walk back in the house and

659
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, husband, did you turn the fan on

660
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 5: our son's stroller? And he was like why and I'm like, oh,

661
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: no reason, and I was and he's like, oh my god,

662
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 5: what is going on? And I was like, it's on

663
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: full blast out there right now. I was like, you

664
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: better not be messing with me right now, even though

665
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: I knew he hadn't been out there and neither of

666
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 5: us had been out there. And he's like, oh my god.

667
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 5: And he's like, I don't like this stuff. I don't

668
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: like this stuff. This is why I don't like this stuff.

669
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: And he's just like and I'm like, okay, all right, well,

670
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: good to know that you didn't do this. All right, awesome?

671
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: And that was very scary because it was almost kind

672
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 5: of to me. It was almost like a message of like, yeah,

673
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: I know you talking about me where I came from.

674
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: And I was just like, oh geez.

675
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: Well, So I kept saying to my husband, I'm like,

676
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, let me do this the proper way, you know,

677
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: because that's always how people get into trouble with wigi

678
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 5: boards in the first place, right is they don't close

679
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: out the board properly or they don't make their intentions clear.

680
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: So I was like, let me make sure I do

681
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: this the right way. Well, the next day was garbage day,

682
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 5: and my husband was so sick of it that he

683
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 5: took the wigi board and he threw it out into

684
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: the trash before he rolled the garbage cans down to

685
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: the curb for the garbage man to come back up.

686
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: So he took care of that problem because he was

687
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: just like again, he's just he's very serious and he's

688
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: just kind of like no nonsense when it comes to

689
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: that stuff, and he's like, I don't care, Like now

690
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 5: this thing potentially like knows and he's like, I just

691
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: I don't want it. I don't want it. So the

692
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: next day, when I found that out, you know, I did,

693
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 5: I did sage the house and kind of talk out

694
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: loud and just say like, hey, you know, we don't

695
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 5: want you here. If you're a bad spirit, you know, GTFO.

696
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: If you're a good spirit, sorry, but we don't really

697
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 5: want you here. Either no more, yeah, right, like get out, goodbye.

698
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: And you know, I will say, thankfully, that really kind

699
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: of seemed to take care of it. We haven't had

700
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: anything weird happening at all, you know that that's that

701
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: seemed to be the trick that kind of ended it.

702
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, super weird and that.

703
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: Was this is actually it was our experience.

704
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: This is very validating for me because I don't know

705
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: if you ever heard me tell my story like this,

706
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: but you know, I acquired a Ouiji board that I

707
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: never used, and things like this were happening around my

708
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: place and then I just threw it away. And when

709
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: I was in the thick of it, I didn't know

710
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: what to do, and I also was I wanted to

711
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: make sure I did it the right way, and I

712
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: just decided ultimately, I mean, I was your husband in

713
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: this situation, and I just threw it in the dumpster

714
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: and everything luckily ended.

715
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe sometimes that works. Maybe that's

716
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: all you need to do sometimes.

717
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: Right, Like it's almost like the physical action of like

718
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 5: tossing it and just being like nope, don't watch you here,

719
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: Like maybe that maybe actually works. There's a ghost in

720
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 5: my house.

721
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, how are you?

722
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 5: Is this Peter?

723
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it is Peter, my first person from Australia on

724
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: the show.

725
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Really first one.

726
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm honored. Thank you for waking up so early.

727
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: No problem at all. Seem so excited to do this.

728
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: Me too, so I want to hear about Okay, you

729
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: sent me two stories and I was absolutely blown away

730
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: by especially the Wiji one.

731
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: But let's do. Let's do the first one, which is

732
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: your family home when you were young. Yes, what happened there?

733
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Speaker 2: So I was about thirteen twelve, thirteen years of age

734
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: and we bought our parents for their wedding anniversary screen

735
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: security doors for the house. As you know in australia's

736
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: very hot in summer, and it's very good to have

737
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: these doors. Security doors attached to the house. Then you

738
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: don't need to close the main doors so you can

739
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: let the breeze through. But my mother never ever wanted

740
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: to lock them, so they were security doors. She just

741
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: felt safe. One night we'd gone to our auntie's house,

742
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: we returned back to our house and the doors were locked.

743
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: My father hadn't locked them, my mother hadn't locked them,

744
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: neither had my brother. So well walked down to the

745
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: back of the house, and my brother's bedroom window was

746
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: opened and just the jar and he climbed through opened

747
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: the doors, and of course my father went in first,

748
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: checking all the rooms to make sure we hadn't been

749
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: burgled or nothing was unsavory there. My mom went to

750
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: her jewelry, my brother went to his record collection, and

751
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: I just walked through the house. Or the house was

752
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: lit up because my mother turned on all the lights.

753
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: I walked into my bedroom and I could see someone

754
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: laying in my bed. I couldn't physically see a person,

755
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: but I could see the shape underneath the blanket, and

756
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: for some unknown reason, I just jumped into bed and

757
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: formed the same shape as that shape.

758
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: I know, you said, some unknown reason, but what I

759
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: don't run.

760
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: I know you think I think I should have ran,

761
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I just I don't know where.

762
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: I just did it.

763
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't scared. And then all of a sudden, my

764
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: mum walked past the bedroom door bedroom, and she said,

765
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: what are you doing? It's too early for bed, and

766
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: I just stood up out of the bed. I was

767
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: She said, oh my god, you're so pale. I was shaking.

768
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: And then that was it. It just left me. Whatever happened.

769
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: I just felt normal again. And I guess because I

770
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: was only thirteen, I didn't really understand what was happening,

771
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: so weird. That was yeah, that was fine. My mum

772
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: just laughed it off. I did tell her and she

773
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: just said, oh, you're seeing things, You're just imagining things.

774
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: So that was fine. The next night, it was a

775
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: Monday night, I recall it clearly, and my sister and

776
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: her husband had come over for dinner. Were all in

777
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: the kitchen preparing the meal, was about to serve it up.

778
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: I was making the sauce, my brother in law was

779
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: carving the meat, my sister was doing vegetables or my

780
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: mother was doing vegetables, and we're all in the kitchen

781
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: area and then all of a sudden, the fridge started

782
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: to vibrate and make a noise. We all sort of looked,

783
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, within inside the fridge,

784
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: we could hear things being moved. So my brother in

785
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: law went to open the fridge door and he grabbed

786
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: the handle and it just wouldn't open, and he was

787
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: trying to force it, but it wasn't budging. Then suddenly

788
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: the noise that came from within was just like a

789
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: mini hurricane or cyclone was inside the fridge. We could

790
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: hear bottles clanging hitting each other, We could hear things

791
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: falling over, we could hear liquid beings splashed. We could

792
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: just hear this terrible, terrible grapp No, it wasn't it.

793
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: It was like a groaning noise, just a midst of

794
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: all these bottles and other noises from the things inside

795
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: the fridge. We all just stood there in amazement. My

796
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: brother in law couldn't open the fridge, and then suddenly

797
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: the fridge just flew open and nothing was a miss

798
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: in the fridge. Everything was still perfectly How was before

799
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: this noise?

800
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: WHOA, That's like an magic trick.

801
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: It really was, because if you could hear the noise,

802
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: like we could hear bottles smashing, we could hear it.

803
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: The four of us were standing there, we could hear

804
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: the noise. We knew something was happening in the fridge.

805
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: It was like there was an earthquake. But I mean,

806
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: we don't get earthquakes in Sydney, so it was just bizarre.

807
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: And we just were so shocked by it that we

808
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: couldn't talk, and we just continued preparing the food. Walked

809
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: to the dining table started to eat in silence, and

810
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 2: then my mother bursted out laughing, and that just broke

811
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: broke the air.

812
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Did she believe you then about the maybe four?

813
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. She's a very hard woman.

814
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: She doesn't believe in anything like that paranormal. And you know,

815
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: I hadn't ventured into it. I didn't understand. You know,

816
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: of course I watched horror films, but I didn't really

817
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: into anything two years later, so I didn't really understand it,

818
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: and I just dismissed it.

819
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: So did things continue to happen or was that the

820
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: end of it?

821
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: That was it two days, the Sunday and the Monday,

822
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: and that was it in that house. Nothing else happened.

823
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: So do you what do you think like triggered it was?

824
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: It was the doors or what was it?

825
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: I don't know because my parents had actually built the house,

826
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: so it wasn't as if, you know, someone had died

827
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: in there previously or anything like that. I've read that.

828
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: You know, it usually does happen to females, but when

829
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: they're thirteen years old hitting puberty, poltergeist can come into

830
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: the house. Yeah, maybe maybe it was some pulter I

831
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: don't know, because as I said, it only lasted two days, and.

832
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: Maybe it was just a ghost that was like tired,

833
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: laid into your bed. Then it was like can I'm hungry,

834
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: went to your fridge, and then it was like here,

835
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 3: these people don't even.

836
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: Believe in me exactly. That's probably be more the truth.

837
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: So tell me the Wiji story.

838
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a big one. This was many

839
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: years later. I was living in London and my friend

840
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: and I had left London to go live in Spain,

841
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: and then we were suddenly oh she was she'd applied

842
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: for a job and back in London, but we had

843
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: already gone to Spain, and then they called her and

844
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: asked us to return. So we returned back to London.

845
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: We had nowhere to stay because we'd given up our apartment,

846
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: but our friend she was house sitting and she said,

847
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: come stay with me for a few days until you

848
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: get back on your feet. So she was living in

849
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: black Fries, which is in the heart of London, and

850
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: it's in the city district. It's just high rises, not apartments,

851
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: and that's about There's not much going for It's on

852
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: the Thames. It's quite stark, gray, not a very attractive area.

853
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: And so that night we'd gone out drinking as you do,

854
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: celebrating that we'd come back to London. We turned back

855
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: to my friend's apartment and she said, let's do a seiance.

856
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: She had previously done one with me months and months before,

857
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: so I was still extremely skeptical of sciances. So she

858
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: made the reagible, just cutting up letters and the words

859
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: yes and no and numbers. We've got glasses. She felt

860
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing, so she might say

861
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: the Lord's Prayer, she licked candles, she had the correct

862
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: music on. She felt like she knew what she was doing,

863
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: so we started. She started asking if anyone was there,

864
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: and nothing was happening at first, and then all of

865
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, the glass our three fingers because it was servius.

866
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: The glass was moving to letters two letters at a time,

867
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: for example like PK, JD T Z. Just we couldn't

868
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: understand it. Then. I can't remember which one of us thought.

869
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: We said, are they initials? And the glass very strongly

870
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: moved to yes. So sometimes the glass would move around

871
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: the table and it would go to someone and for

872
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: some reason, like I just knew I had to ask

873
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: questions so we This was going on for half an hour,

874
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: and then we gathered that all of the people that

875
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: were coming through, because it was crazy for that first

876
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, that it was a black death. People had

877
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: died here because of the plague. And when we said that,

878
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: the class automatically went to yes. So we all right,

879
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: that's fine, we know someone had people had died around

880
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: this area hundreds of years ago. My friend who's Spanish,

881
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: she spoke Spanish because people came through and she just

882
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: had the feeling that she had to speak Spanish. I

883
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: for some reason, I don't know why, I felt I

884
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: had a new not a newborn, but I had a

885
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: baby in my arms, and I asked this this was

886
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: a baby, and it said yes. It was just bizarre,

887
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: like so many entities or spirits were coming through. And

888
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: then suddenly the glass went to our fingers on it

889
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: went to fog. Keep spilling the word from and of

890
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: course we're laughing, oh, yes, you know the fogs always

891
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: in London, Jack the Ripper Times, blah blah blah. So

892
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: we were just sort of laughing it off. But the

893
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: glass kept going fog. F I do very very strong,

894
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: and with the three of us all taking fingers off

895
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: the glass at a time just to see the other

896
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: one wasn't pushing it, and then suddenly the glass just

897
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: flew off and hit me in my chest. It was

898
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: only like a little glass, but it just shocked us all.

899
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: And then we said, okay, let's stop it now, so

900
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: we My friend said what she had to say, she'd

901
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 2: get out of the seance. I was, of course shaken

902
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: just why the glass had hit me, so we went

903
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: to bed. I had a sleepless night, obviously because I

904
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: was just wired by what had happened. So I did

905
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: get up at about six in the morning. I thought

906
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I would make the girls breakfast, so I had to

907
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: go to the shops. So grab the keys, walked out

908
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: of the building, and then realized that, you know, this

909
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: is in the city. There's no shops around, so I

910
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: had to walk quite a few blocks till I found something.

911
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: And I came across a CHAOSK sevent eleven sort of

912
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: shop and it was selling had like a petrol area

913
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: to drive in, and then the shop itself. So I

914
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: walked in there, grabbed the little basket, thought I'll get

915
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: some breakfast producee and then I heard loud popping sounds,

916
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: so I thought it's weird noise, and I looked at

917
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: the window, couldn't see anything. There was another woman in

918
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: the shop. I saw her pop her head up over

919
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: the aisle and looked out the window as well. So

920
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: we heard about four three or four pops, very loud pops.

921
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: So that was it. We didn't say anything. Then I

922
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: came to the checkout and she was in front of me,

923
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: and she was a older woman, and she had ten

924
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: cans of cat food. I just remember she had all

925
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: this cat food. So she put it up on the counter.

926
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: The main scanned it or whatever he did, wrung it

927
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: up on the register, and then suddenly we heard the

928
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: pop noise again and the door opened up right in

929
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: front of us. This man just stood there and said help,

930
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: and we looked at him, and then we heard another

931
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: pop and then we saw blood splatter in the back

932
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: of his neck. He fell down. We sort of dragged

933
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: him in and then understanding, oh my god, this is

934
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: gunshots and you know, this is London back in the

935
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: early nineties, which was unheard of, well for me, yeah,

936
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: tourists living there, and so we dragged him in. I

937
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: saw him go from a normal color, just to pale.

938
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: He just went so pale. And then we heard this

939
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: noise of a car, and the woman who was buying

940
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: the cat food, she yelled out to the shop assistant

941
00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: get the license plate number. So we're trying to can't

942
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: this man down because he's sort of not knowing what's happened.

943
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: Then he stood up and we're yelling at him to

944
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: lay down in case, you know, the guvernment's still out there,

945
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: and then the shop assistant yells out two. He was

946
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: recite reading the license plate on the car to fgive four.

947
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: And from that moment it's a bit of a blur.

948
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: I've tried to understand. I know the man left. He

949
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't stay in the shop with us. He was covered

950
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: in blood, but he walked back out. He got into

951
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: a car and then he drove down the road. Unfortunately

952
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: he crashed it like about you know, a minute later,

953
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: because you know, he was bleeding so severely. The shop

954
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: assistant said to us, guys, I'm calling the police, but

955
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: if you want to stay, you can stay. If you

956
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: want to leave, get out now. So I thought this

957
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: is a best thing for me to get out. I

958
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: don't remember paying for the goods but I must not

959
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: because I had they were put in a shopping bag.

960
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: All I remember is getting back to the apartment block,

961
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: and by this time it must have been seven am.

962
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: They had a dormanon and he looked at me and

963
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: he said, are you okay? And that's when I realized,

964
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: like I came to, I can't remember walking home by

965
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 2: just getting back to my senses. It was when that

966
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: dorman said, they go okay, and I looked and realized

967
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: I had blood on me, and I said, oh, yeah,

968
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: I just saw I helped someone in an accident, walked

969
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: inside to their apartment, and that was it. Just the

970
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: shock hit me. My friends had were awake there having coffee.

971
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: They were trying to tell me, we're trying to see

972
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: what had happened to me, and I couldn't make sense

973
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: because I was just, you know, upset and shaking and

974
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: just just in shock. So they gave me a drink

975
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: of whisky to calm me down, and then I told

976
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: them the story and we all sat there in disbelief

977
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: for hours until we went back. I said, let's go

978
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: back to the shop so I can see this really happened,

979
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: because for some reason, it was just too paranormal to

980
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 2: weed to unreal that you know, I had been given

981
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: these letters the night before and then this major incident

982
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 2: happens in my life revolving involving these letters.

983
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, it is.

984
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: So we went back to the shop and the guy agreed.

985
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: He said a drug deal that had gone wrong of

986
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: some sort, and you know, the I had crashed the

987
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: car and that was it. It was on the news

988
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: that evening because you know, guns weren't a big crime.

989
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: We weren't a big thing in London at the time,

990
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: so it was on the news. And yeah, I don't

991
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: know if maybe one of the bullets were meant for me,

992
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: if I'd walked out the shop a minute earlier, I

993
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: could have been hit by a bullet, if the spirits

994
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: were trying to tell me something, I really don't know.

995
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: Wow, either way, it's an incredible story.

996
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Honestly, when I tell people about it, they just in shock.

997
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't believe it, but you know, I have witnesses

998
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: and I just can't work out why, Like why, what

999
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: was the purpose of it? Yeah, you know, I'd love

1000
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: to find out, but we were too scared to ever

1001
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: do a sounce a getting that apartment block.

1002
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Hello, Hi ros Hi Annie? How are you?

1003
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 6: I'mkay?

1004
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: How are you so good? Where are you?

1005
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: I am in Dover, New Hampshire.

1006
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1007
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: Well I was reading the email you sent me and

1008
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: you were talking about some haunted house you lived in.

1009
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: What is going on with that?

1010
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1011
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 6: So I grew up in a house in Rochester, New Hampshire.

1012
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 6: It was built in the seventeen hundreds. It was actually

1013
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 6: built before the town records, so we're not even sure

1014
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 6: like exactly how old it is or what happened there. Yeah, exactly,

1015
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, had lots of spooky stuff happen when

1016
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 6: I was growing up and even as like a young adult.

1017
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: Well so did your family live there, Like were you

1018
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: born in that house or did you move into it later?

1019
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1020
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 6: No, I lived there my whole life up until like

1021
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 6: my early twenties, so it was like.

1022
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Kind of always known that it was haunted.

1023
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1024
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 6: I mean my parents would say like that my sister

1025
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 6: and I were imagining it, but like I totally believe

1026
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 6: it was.

1027
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh so your parents never experienced it.

1028
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 6: I mean they they say they didn't, but I mean

1029
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 6: my mom was there one time when we heard stomping

1030
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 6: in an empty room, and she called for my dad,

1031
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 6: who like came and confirmed that there was like nobody

1032
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 6: in that room. So like, I don't know, I think

1033
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 6: I think they just didn't want to believe.

1034
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so what are some of the things that

1035
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: happened to you?

1036
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 6: Oh so my sister and I both heard like a

1037
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 6: little girl's voice pretty frequently, like she'd be like talking

1038
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: or singing.

1039
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: What would she be talking about?

1040
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 6: Oh, we we didn't hear any any like actual words.

1041
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: We just hear like from the other room, Like.

1042
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Well that's enough. That's enough for me be terrified. Was

1043
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: she singing? What was she singing?

1044
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 6: Like like generic creepy child horror movie sing sings me things?

1045
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh god, So did you ever see her?

1046
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: I kind of had a funny experience in my twenties.

1047
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: I was sitting by this tree, this maple tree that

1048
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 6: I really liked, super old, big tree, and I like

1049
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: closed my eyes and like I envisioned like this like

1050
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 6: maple tree, little girl, like kind of fairy creature. So

1051
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 6: I don't really know what that was about her, if

1052
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 6: it was just my imagination, but I was I was like,

1053
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 6: maybe there's something to that.

1054
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. What was this that happened during

1055
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: a slumber party.

1056
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was really creepy and a lot of

1057
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 6: my friends remember that. So we were hanging out in

1058
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 6: my bedroom. This was like in middle school, and we

1059
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 6: were sitting by this like creepy little closet that I

1060
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: never used, and we just heard, like from the other

1061
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 6: side of the door, knock, knock, knock, and we all

1062
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 6: went completely silent. And then we heard it again, knock

1063
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 6: kN knock, and we were so spooked we like ran downstairs.

1064
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 6: I think we ended up sleeping downstairs that night.

1065
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people think that three knocks are

1066
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: the devil.

1067
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: Ooh.

1068
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: I did not know that that's what people say.

1069
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: I mean people that believe that route they think that

1070
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 3: demons do three knocks because it is kind of their

1071
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: way of I guess you.

1072
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: I guess what I've been told was sort of like

1073
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: they're making fun of the Trinity?

1074
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: Is that what we would say, the Father, the Son,

1075
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit. It's like, there, that's what I've heard,

1076
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: but I don't know. That's just what paranormal TV shows

1077
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: tell me.

1078
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Speaker 1: But it did it seem like it was something evil.

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Speaker 6: I think at the time we thought it was like

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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 6: a demon come to get us. But like, after I

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01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 6: stopped being afraid of like spirits, I was kind of

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 6: interpreted more as like a playful kind of thing. Like

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Speaker 6: it was like a group of girls all hanging out

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Speaker 6: having fun, like and if there was a little girl's spirit,

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Speaker 6: I imagine that she maybe would have wanted to join

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Speaker 6: in on that.

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Speaker 1: How many girls were over? I think it was around

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Speaker 1: three see three three girls, three knocks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think it was it at three am?

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Speaker 3: Because you know that, but that would just make it perfect.

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Speaker 6: No, it was it was probably like around nine thirty.

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Speaker 1: Oh so it was still early.

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01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Interesting. What about sleep paralysis there?

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so that used to happen to me all

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01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 6: the time and it's never happened ever since. But yeah,

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01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 6: there was one night my friend and I were sleeping

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01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 6: in our living room and I had sleep paralysis that

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01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 6: night and felt like a force was like trying to

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 6: take over my body. And that same night, my friend

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 6: said that she saw somebody like walk by the door.

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Speaker 6: And then we were so freaked out when she like

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 6: mentioned it and we realized that we were the only

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 6: people there that.

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Speaker 1: Night, So who was that?

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Speaker 2: Was that?

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: Also a little girl or somebody else.

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 6: Well, she thought it was my mom, So I think

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 6: it must have been like, you know, tall enough to

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Speaker 6: be a mom.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I was also reading that you were telling me about

1113
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: what your sister had had some experiences, what happened with

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01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: her with a plush toyeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so she acknowledges that this might have been a dream,

1116
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 6: but she just remembers it like it actually happened when

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 6: she was really little. Her stuffed animals like became illuminated

1118
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 6: with like a glowing electric blue light and started dancing

1119
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 6: around her room.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I didn't mean to laugh like at her,

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: but that's just that's kind of a cool visual.

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's cute.

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01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be worse.

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Speaker 3: But then I was then I was reading more about

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Speaker 3: what you were setting me, and then you're talking about

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: you saw something blue too, You saw an electric blue

1127
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: gritting face.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was like in my twenties. I opened

1130
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 6: my eyes and I just saw this like glowing blue

1131
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 6: face like hovering over my face, smiling at me. It

1132
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 6: kind of looked like a like a jack O lantern face,

1133
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 6: like the eyes in the mouth where the were the

1134
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 6: only things, and they were the ones that were glowing,

1135
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 6: and I was just like and then I was like, well,

1136
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 6: I mean I've made it this far and I've only

1137
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 6: had like good experiences, so I'm sure there was just

1138
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 6: some cheeky spirit coming to creep me out a little.

1139
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 4: So I just went back to sleep.

1140
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: So what do we think? How many spirits do we

1141
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: think are in there?

1142
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

1143
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: I it seems like a girl, a grinning face, a

1145
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: mom height.

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01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, because like I did have

1147
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 6: times where I was like uncomfortable, like all the times

1148
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 6: we had sleep paralysis, but I think there was a

1149
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 6: lot of times where I felt like very comfortable and

1150
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: like there was a lot of good energy there.

1151
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: So, but you guys don't know the exact history when

1152
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: it comes to like people dying there or anything like that.

1153
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

1154
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: But is your family still there?

1155
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: No.

1156
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, my mom sold the house a couple of.

1157
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: Years ago, and so she never really had an experience

1158
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: other than that stomping.

1159
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. She's she's like a tough broad though,

1160
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 6: so I feel like even if she did experience something,

1161
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 6: she'd be like, oh, it must have been the wind.

1162
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: But one if it's like a face hovering over you

1163
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: when you're sleeping. She's like, Oh, it's just the wind. Yeah, right, crazy.

1164
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: So had you had any other experiences?

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just remembered when that was really scary. When

1166
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 6: it happened, I was like I was in middle school

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01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 6: and I was home by myself for some reason, and

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 6: this was probably in the evening, like I don't know,

1169
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 6: four or five o'clock, and this was back in the

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Speaker 6: day when we had answering machines or yeah, without the

1171
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 6: phone ringing. The answering machine like clicked on like somebody

1172
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 6: was leaving a message, and like creepy, heavy breathing started

1173
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 6: coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: That's spooky.

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01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: See, that's what I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: If this was like seventeen hundreds ghosts, I never understand

1178
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: how they can do, like how they know how to

1179
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: do an answering machine, right, I don't know because I've

1180
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: seen those videos on YouTube where it's like kids trying

1181
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: to figure out what an answering machine is or a

1182
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: VHS tape and they can't even figure it out. Yeah,

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: I can imagine like a seventeen hundreds ghost trying to

1184
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: figure out how to do that.

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it was like a seventies ghost or something.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: It could be. But when when did your parents move

1187
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: in there?

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 6: They moved it.

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Speaker 4: Eighty seven, I think eighty eight, so.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. It could have been a seventies ghost. Yeah,

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Kathleen, Caitlin, Peter and Annie.

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: That was truly a good one. So again, please go

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 3: to patreon dot com. You can see that video of

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: me showing you guys my drag closet and I'll do

1196
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Speaker 3: all kinds of random videos from now on. So you

1197
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: just let me know what you want me to do

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Speaker 3: a video about, and you know there's a good chance

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Speaker 3: I'll probably make a video about it as long as

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Speaker 3: I can keep my clothes on or maybe not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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