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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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Speaker 1: Listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 1: And it's been a lot of groans over here lately

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Speaker 1: because Carney, our loyal mail bot, has now been procedurally

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Speaker 1: generating dad jokes, and they are not very good. Rob

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Speaker 1: did you catch that most recent one? Uh? Yeah, I did,

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Speaker 1: you know, but you know, it may not have been funny,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's endearing in a way, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so he It's all stuff like what do you

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Speaker 1: call a turkey that goes to space? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What do you call a turkey the coast of space?

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Speaker 1: Poo poo in the toilet? The answer? M hmm, okay.

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Speaker 1: I have questions about the logic behind that one. But

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing about artificial intelligence is that

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Speaker 1: you let it run wild, and it begins operating on

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Speaker 1: a level that we can no longer connect with. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You don't know if it's too stupid to be funny,

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Speaker 1: or if it's so far over your head that you'll

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Speaker 1: never catch up. Could be either way. Uh So, Luckily,

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Speaker 1: Carney is still obeying his basic programming. He is still

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Speaker 1: bringing us listener mail, and of course everybody out there,

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Speaker 1: you're still sending us listener mail related to our stuff

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Speaker 1: to blow your mind. Episodes are artifact episodes are weird,

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Speaker 1: how cinema episodes. So once more we have a selection

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Speaker 1: of listener mail to consider. That's right, We've got the

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Speaker 1: seasonal yearly inundation of Dad jokes and uh, and we're

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Speaker 1: very excited to get right into them. Rob do you

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Speaker 1: want to start off? Let's see, should I read this

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Speaker 1: one from Brett about the Nile inundation? Go for it.

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Speaker 1: Brett says, Hello, Joe and Robert. I hope this note

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Speaker 1: finds you both well. I just wanted to write a

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Speaker 1: quick note about the Nile episode and how you guys

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Speaker 1: were able to take it to a biochemical angle. You

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Speaker 1: have had Daniel whiteson on your show before, and he

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Speaker 1: has mentioned a quote about the ocean that I forget

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Speaker 1: in detail. It goes something like, we left the ocean

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Speaker 1: when we learned to take the water with us. Now

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Speaker 1: it seems we should say we left the water's edge,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the ocean. H Now, I could be wrong

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Speaker 1: about this, but I think we have had Daniel Whiteson

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Speaker 1: one of the hosts of Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and Daniel was a great guest on the show. But

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Speaker 1: unless I'm mistaken, Brett, I think you're actually remembering us

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Speaker 1: talking about Brian Green's book Until the End of Time,

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Speaker 1: water in biochemistry and he quotes the Nobel Laureate Albert

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Speaker 1: sent Georgie, who said, quote water is life's matter and matrix,

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Speaker 1: could leave the ocean when it learned how to grow

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Speaker 1: a skin a bag in which to take the water

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Speaker 1: with it. We're still living in water, having the water

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Speaker 1: now inside. I should say it would be it would

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Speaker 1: be easy to confuse these two interviews since they occurred

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Speaker 1: so close together. Um, I remember we I think we

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Speaker 1: of the next week was when we talked to Brian Green. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right, But but who knows. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting something that we talked about with with Daniel

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Speaker 1: that was very similar. But anyway, I think, yes, this

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Speaker 1: we talked about in the Nilon Inundation episode, Uh, you

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Speaker 1: can't just have a cell be a bag of water.

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Speaker 1: A cell actually needs to very tightly control and regulate

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Speaker 1: guess especially the long chain molecules needed for life, like DNA,

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Speaker 1: RNA and so forth. But anyway, Breath's message goes on.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned organic chemistry and how water is the enemy,

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Speaker 1: which it can be for sure. As an organic chemist,

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Speaker 1: we try to use an hydrus meaning free from water

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Speaker 1: reagents to something as polar as water. Water causes byproducts

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Speaker 1: which we then need to remove. But this is more

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Speaker 1: I'm getting sidetracked here. The reason I write today is

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Speaker 1: because of a basic process of life that all amino

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Speaker 1: acids undergo to form peptides. When two amino acids linked together,

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Speaker 1: making life. It's very interesting. Our cells then had to

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Speaker 1: of a cell. Please keep the twists coming. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed how you were able to start with crop growing

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Speaker 1: for food and lead it to how life might have started.

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Speaker 1: Definitely one of my favorite podcasts, and I look forward

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Speaker 1: to what you guys will discuss next. Cheers Brett. Yes,

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Speaker 1: our discussions are are are lawless affair. You never know

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Speaker 1: All Right, we received a lot of feedback from our

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Speaker 1: Dad Jokes episode, which we knew would be the case,

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Speaker 1: given how connected people are to the topic. Either, you know,

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Speaker 1: parents making bad jokes are just bad jokes in general

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Speaker 1: and humor itself. Uh so we're gonna get into some

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Speaker 1: of these now. This first one comes to us from Mark.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, gentlemen. I hope this finds you well. I

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Speaker 1: loved your episode on dad jokes and thought I would

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Speaker 1: made it or will soon enough. Anyway, here it goes question,

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Speaker 1: what do you call a questionable toilet? Answer? A skeptic tank.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed my lame joke. Thanks for all

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Speaker 1: the knowledge. Mark. Why does Mark get a voice a

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Speaker 1: voice for a listener before? I don't know, just because

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Speaker 1: he's I don't know, good evening gentleman's tended to demand it.

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Speaker 1: So it just happened. Good evening to you, Mark. A

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Speaker 1: skeptic tank. Okay, uh okay, close, Yeah, yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: and then release the joke on him. Um, so just

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Speaker 1: educating him as a precursor to sharing humor. Dad, why

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Speaker 1: the six hour lesson about septic tanks? Just wait until Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It'll come together, alright. This next message comes from Jim

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Jim says Robert and Joe, the purpose

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Speaker 1: of dad jokes is to embarrass your adolescent children in

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Speaker 1: to have them. Jim in New Jersey PS, I didn't

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Speaker 1: the second time. Oh. Yeah, that one is rather tricky,

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Speaker 1: from Sebastian Hi, Rob, Joe, and Seth for the recent

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Speaker 1: dad jokes episode. I just wanted to add a couple

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Speaker 1: of bits of information. The first is that in French,

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Speaker 1: With the French uh le jokes demons uncle or um

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Speaker 1: This translates not to dad jokes, but rather too uncle jokes,

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Speaker 1: it's considered to be the responsibility of the uncles to

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Speaker 1: it's more of a Canadian thing, but dad jokes here

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Speaker 1: a lot of that on Mystery Science Theater. Yeah. Um, anyway,

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Speaker 1: they continue. Similarly, there's a growing concept of mom jokes

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Speaker 1: that I've seen more and more, at least among Canadians.

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Speaker 1: Whereas dad jokes are innocent and crass, mom jokes tend

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Speaker 1: So when a kid might say I don't like broccoli,

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Speaker 1: that when I listened to podcasts at a higher speed,

428
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: I feel increased stresses. My mind has to work harder

429
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: and pay closer attention so I don't miss anything. But

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Speaker 1: more than that, if I listen at increased speeds for

431
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: a few days or more, I feel like it starts

432
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: to affect my own speech. I notice I tend to

433
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: speak more quickly, which means my mind can't always keep

434
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: up and I end up tripping over my words. Another

435
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: thing I've noticed is when I slowed down a conversational

436
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: podcasts such as Stuff to Bow Your Mind to around

437
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: point eight times, it has a subtle relaxing effect. This

438
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: intuitively makes sense. I don't notice it's slowing down my speech,

439
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: but I suspect this is because I do this exclusively

440
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: for podcasts that I put on to help me get

441
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: to sleep. This is not when I do most of

442
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: my podcast listening, so perhaps it doesn't have to have

443
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: as much of a chance to mess with my head

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00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: as it would during the day. One last thing, As

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00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: other listeners have admitted, I too have listened to stuff

446
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: to bow your mind to get me to sleep when

447
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: it is your turn. Though it is a vault episode

448
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: that I turned to that way, I don't feel like

449
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: I am missing out on anything. Please know that you're

450
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: not boring, just common, relaxing, stay brilliant, Jesse. Oh thanks Jesse.

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00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't imagine listening to us at

452
00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: zero point eight speed. Yeah, that sounds so drunk, just hammer. Yeah,

453
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: if you if you heard me laughing a little bit

454
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: or through my reading of that, it's it's uh not

455
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: not because there's I'm I'm I'm judging Jesse for doing this,

456
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: but I'm just imagining that if I did that, it

457
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: would be kind of like nightmare juice, because I have

458
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: like literally had nightmares in which voices are slowed down.

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Speaker 1: So it's not something I really I really like, but

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Speaker 1: I could second see where it could be relaxing for

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Speaker 1: someone else. I mean, you and I both have Tennessee

462
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: speech anyway, which is already on the slower side of

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Speaker 1: accent pace, and oh man, that that would be rough.

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00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's interesting to hear to hear from everyone,

465
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, just there's so many nuances to how people

466
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts that it's always interesting to pick up

467
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: on what the trends are. And I guess it what

468
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: used to be not as easy to do this, right?

469
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean when did iPhones and so forth start getting

470
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: that that speed up slow down option? Oh I don't know.

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00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that's apt dependent for me. It depends

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Speaker 1: on what I used to listen Google podcast, So we'll

473
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: let you pick pretty much any speed you want. Yeah,

474
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: but of course they're also like trying to shame you

475
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: and to listen to everything. I noticed, like when I

476
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: use it and it's like I go to a podcast

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00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to in a few days and it's like,

478
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: have you given up on this podcast? You still want

479
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: to be subscribed at all? And I'm like, yes, I

480
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: just wasn't in the car for a few days. I said,

481
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: don't want to keep up with it. Don't make me

482
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Speaker 1: feel bad just because I just because I'm like, you know,

483
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: a few dozen episodes behind. I'm gonna get to it.

484
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: But seriously, we love you Apple. Okay, let's go on

485
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 1: to our next one. What do we have for us here, Joe? Okay, now,

486
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: we got some messages about Weird House Cinema. All right,

487
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: some very substantive messages about Weird House. So we'll say

488
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: this first one comes from John. John says, Hi, Robert

489
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: and Joe. I just listen to your Weird House Cinema

490
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: episode on Hands of Steel, and I enjoyed it a lot.

491
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: I actually passed through Page, Arizona last week and after

492
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: leaving town, walked on the Navajo footbridge where the finale

493
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: took place. It's a great but vertigo inducing view of

494
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: the Colorado River before the canyon really widens out. I'm

495
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: also writing because I noticed a funny connection between the

496
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: movie and it's real world setting. Although I can't speak

497
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: for acid rain. Remember in the movie, there was a

498
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: there was like a stationary acid rain hazard. There's like

499
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Speaker 1: a sign on the highway there's like warning you're about

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00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: to drive through acid rain, which is pretty great. Um,

501
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: uh sorry, John goes on. Although I can't speak for

502
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: acid rain, the state of Arizona does have an ongoing

503
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: history of water and land pollution from mining, including groundwater

504
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: pollution by the acid waste of copper mines. Southern Arizona

505
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: has a high concentration of large open pit copper mines,

506
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and in order to extract the copper from or strong

507
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: acid solutions are often used, along with other toxic chemicals.

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00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: These waste products can leach into the surrounding environment, including

509
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: into groundwater, endangering surrounding communities. A good resource on this

510
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: is the book Boom Bust Boom, who's author Bill Carter,

511
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: recalls being poisoned by the vegetables in his own garden

512
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: in Bisbee, Arizona, a mining town, and learning that his

513
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: house was built on the arsenic and lead lace tailings

514
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: from a nearby copper mine. Wow and John attached some photos,

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00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: one an aerial photo and one from the ground level

516
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: of one of these open pit copper mines that has

517
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: been partially filled in. It is a It is a

518
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: truly dystopic site. Looks kind of like a like a

519
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: colosseum for earth elementals. Though I guess if you're an

520
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: earth elemental. I'm not sure what kind of animals they

521
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: would throw you too, maybe like some kind of rock

522
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: dissolving fungus or something. I don't know. Well, we'll come

523
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: back to that idea, um. But then John goes on.

524
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Speaker 1: I briefly lived in Aho, Arizona, which has its own

525
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: open pit copper mine. The now retired pit still has

526
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: a turquoise and toxic pool at the bottom, and the

527
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: tailings pile from the mine dominates the landscape images attached

528
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: to both though that's what these images are, Okay. While there,

529
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I was told that the tap water had more arsenic

530
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: than would be ideal, but I can't say whether this

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00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: was from the mind or some other environmental factor. It

532
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: was fun to see a connection between the film's vision

533
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: of dystopian environmental degradation and the stuff that goes on

534
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: in the real world. Sometimes American truth is stranger than

535
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Italian fiction. For a future weird house cinema, could I

536
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: suggest Altered States. Given that the podcast has discussed Timothy

537
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Leary and Terence McKenna at length, this movie might be appropriate.

538
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: It seems like the writers did some brief reading about

539
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: traditional uses of psychedelic mushrooms and sensory deprivation, did mushrooms themselves,

540
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: and then wrote a script. Thanks for all the fun

541
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: and interesting conversations, Best John with Altered States? Am I

542
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: wrong in thinking that was written by Patty Chaievsky the

543
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: same person who wrote Network? Uh that sounds familiar? Yes, yes,

544
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: that is correct. U. Yeah, so it has an interesting writer.

545
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: And then of course it's a kin Russell film. Um So,

546
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like we probably do need to

547
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: take on a kin Russell film at some point. I

548
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: assume you've seen Altered States, right, I have? I have.

549
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I watched it in

550
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: its entirety. Uh so it would it would totally be

551
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: a different experience watching it now, but uh, it could

552
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: be a pretty fun one. It's got some neat connections

553
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: in it. John Lara Catt, isn't it as an X

554
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: ray technician? Oh? That's funny. Uh So My main memory

555
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: of it is that William Hurt is the main character. Yeah,

556
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: and he plays a I don't know, Timothy Leary type

557
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: some a A an academic who becomes interested in the

558
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: use of psychedelics and in sensory deprivation tanks. And he

559
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: starts to discover that as he like does more and

560
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: more sensory deprivation, he like regresses to some kind of

561
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: pre previous state of existence, and which is an interesting idea,

562
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: but I think it sort of ends up with him

563
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: just like turning into a werewolf. Yeah, he's sence some

564
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: sort of like caveman monster mode towards the end, as

565
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: I recall. But in an interesting coincidence, this next piece

566
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: of listener mail also concerned sensory deprivation. Alright, this one

567
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: comes to us from Dan. Dan rights to Robert and Joe.

568
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I made the unfortunate mistake of watching the Janet um

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Speaker 1: Agrin video of Teddy Bear that Robert posted on his

570
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: Commuta Music blog, and now I am trapped in the

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00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: hell Raiser Laborath dimentioned, just as Joe had warned, I

572
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: should have listened. While the pain and anguish has been

573
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: unbearable and my suffering soon to be legendary. My cinebye

574
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: masters have permitted me to send you this listener mail.

575
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: By the way, they're big fancy show. Earlier this week,

576
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: I was going through the show's archive and listened to

577
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the Creepy Pasta Experiments episode that Robert did with Christian

578
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and this episode you discussed one creepy pasta about a

579
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Russian sleep experiment that descended into violence and madness and

580
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: related it to your own experiences with sensory deprivation and

581
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: isolation tanks. It made me think about how the last

582
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: twelve months since the covid vandemic forced me to start

583
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: remotely working from home, that in order to get through

584
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: my day I need to listen to a lot of

585
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: podcasts to keep me focused on my job. Ironically, if

586
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't have some kind of auditory stimuli, I lose concentration,

587
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: focus and find I cannot function in a complete, in

588
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: complete silence. Perhaps this is related to how I used

589
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: to work in a very noisy office with a lot

590
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: of phones ringing, people talking, laughing at various machines going off,

591
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: and I need to replicate the illusion of being in

592
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: the company of a lot of people to maintain some

593
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: sense of normalcy. I wonder if you've had similar experiences

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00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: since transitioning to your home offices. Apologies for the lengthy email,

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Speaker 1: but I must now be going CD rom Centebyte is

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Speaker 1: calling such sites to show me. Keep up the great work,

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00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: Dan Well I'm so glad. Dan remembers there is a

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Speaker 1: c D cinemyte c D cinembyte shows up in the

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00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: third one that's in that weird club. Yeah, I think

600
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: he's a what is He's like several ideas kind of

601
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: slammed together, right, he's us. I think bartender and a

602
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: DJ and like a c D face. Um. At times

603
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: we may have to do uh how Raiser three Hell

604
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: on Earth at some point because it is kind of

605
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: like the Gremlins too of Hell Raiser films, you know, um,

606
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: or every everybody at the writing table gets to design

607
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: their own cinemabyte for the movie. That movie is just

608
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: a ladle full of vegetable shortening. It is gross. Okay,

609
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: what was I gonna say? Oh? Yeah, well this is

610
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: an interesting idea, Dan. Yeah. I sometimes find that certain

611
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: types of music and noise can help me focus on tasks,

612
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: but not any kind of music or noise, And I

613
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess it depends on what kind of

614
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: work I'm doing. But yeah, there can certainly be a

615
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: thing I think for some people where it can be

616
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: harder to focus if you have less stimulation, because if

617
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: you have less stimulation, you're more likely to let your

618
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: mind start to wander, you know, people who are prone

619
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: to rumination, and then you get distracted by your thoughts. Yeah,

620
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean I I can't take silence at all. Like

621
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be listening to Deepeche Mode and they're like,

622
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: enjoy the silence, and I'm like, no, That's why I

623
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: put you on depeche Mode. So I don't have to

624
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 1: hear the silence. Now, just keep singing, so I don't

625
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: think too hard, uh for something that effect. I don't know,

626
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, it varies. There's different depending on where I

627
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: am during the day. I might need something more ambient

628
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: or or or something a little more um complicated. But

629
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: then also it's like we live in such an area

630
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: that I'm setting out on the front porch working like

631
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't really need any music. There's plenty of noises

632
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: going on, like they're multiple trains going by, there's traffic,

633
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: their dogs, their lawnmowers. There's plenty of of auditory stimuli.

634
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Uh to keep me on task. You know. I gotta

635
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: say one of my all time now productivity albums is

636
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: an album that I never heard until you shared it

637
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: with me. It's Biosphere The Petrified Forest. Oh, Yeah, that

638
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: was so good. I put that one onto work all

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Speaker 1: the time. I mean all the time. That's a that's

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Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. Yeah, uh, you can't beat Biosphere.

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Speaker 1: Play play a lot of Biosphere. Also play a lot

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Speaker 1: of Steve Roach. Um. Yeah, listeners out there, let us know,

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Speaker 1: do you have particular ambient or even not so ambient

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Speaker 1: tracks or artists that you turn to, uh to to work,

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Speaker 1: either during the pandemic or you know, just in general.

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Speaker 1: Let us know. We're always always looking for listening suggestions. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Another good one that I've been listening too lately to

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Speaker 1: work is cluster Zucker site. Yeah. Oh that's good. Yeah, older,

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Speaker 1: older stuff, but but great, still stands the test of time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one last message here. This comes to us from Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Kenny says, Dear Robert and Joe High there from Scotland.

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Speaker 1: I'm a longtime listener who, like many others, enjoys your

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Speaker 1: podcasts in the evenings, often letting them play as my

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00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: wife and I go to sleep. This leads to some

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Speaker 1: very confusing blended episodes, as we fall asleep to a

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Speaker 1: discussion about Jovian moons and wake up in the night

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Speaker 1: to a debate about ancient fungus. I recently listen to

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Speaker 1: Your Weird House Cinema episode about Ewoks the Battle for Indoor,

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Speaker 1: and Joe made an observation that the gas giant around

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Speaker 1: which Indoor orbits being depicted on the horizon as absolutely enormous,

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Speaker 1: apparently taking up half the sky. The point was accurately

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Speaker 1: made that even from the vantage point of an observer

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Speaker 1: on Io, Jupiter's innermost moon, the gas giant would only

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Speaker 1: appear to be a fraction of the size of Tanna

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Speaker 1: indoors planet, and that this was done for dramatic effect

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Speaker 1: rather than accuracy. However, this got me thinking about how

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Speaker 1: our own moon appears when it is high in the

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Speaker 1: sky compared to how it does when it's on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: The Moon obviously doesn't change size, but it often appears

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Speaker 1: to us as if it does. As far as I'm aware,

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Speaker 1: The mechanism by which this occurs is not fully understood,

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Speaker 1: but this is referred to as the moon illusion and

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Speaker 1: as puzzled observer since antiquity. It is now commonly accepted

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Speaker 1: to be a psychological rather than a physical phenomenon. The

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Speaker 1: Moon obviously doesn't change size, but it fools us into

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Speaker 1: thinking that it does. This effect seems to have something

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Speaker 1: to do with context. When the moon is high in

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Speaker 1: the sky and there's nothing around it to give its

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Speaker 1: scale and help us judge distance, we see it as

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Speaker 1: relatively small because our brains interpret it as being very

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Speaker 1: far away. When it is on the horizon. However, the

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Speaker 1: moon often appears to be much larger, and it may

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Speaker 1: be that when there are other objects in our field

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Speaker 1: of view, this tricks our brain into perceiving the Moon

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Speaker 1: is significantly closer. Perhaps an observer on io would perceive

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Speaker 1: Jupiter to be truly vast as it rises and sets,

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Speaker 1: but smaller and ever so slightly less intimidating when it

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Speaker 1: was higher in the sky, That is, if they lasted

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Speaker 1: long enough to perceive anything at all before they succumbed

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Speaker 1: to their radiation. Bath yours, Kenny, And of course if

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Speaker 1: the moon is to the left, it's a part of

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, right yeah, And a part of my thoughts

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Speaker 1: is a part of me? Is me? Uh well? Uh so, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: raise some wonderful points here, uh this that I will

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Speaker 1: just jump in real quick. This has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with their content, but they mentioned the indoor movies. Battle

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Speaker 1: for Indoor the e Walks movies. If if you out

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Speaker 1: there listening are not aware, these are finally coming to

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus, uh next month. I'm very excited by this

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Speaker 1: because when we recorded that episode on the Battle for Indoor,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we stressed was you sadly have

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Speaker 1: to go to like Russian YouTube to watch these things

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Speaker 1: right now, or you know, pick up a used DVD.

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Speaker 1: But soon that that that battle will be over. These

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Speaker 1: will be available on Disney Plus along with the the

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Speaker 1: excellent uh Tartarkovski Clone Wars series, So I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 1: Oh and the animated segment from the Holiday Special with

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Speaker 1: Boba Fette in it, but not the whole Holiday special,

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Speaker 1: right that couldn't know? I mean, I think it just

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Speaker 1: could not be allowed. It needs to remain in its prison.

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Speaker 1: That's where the gods put it. This is a good choice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they're uploading the e walk So now are we

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get the Wicked the Ewalk

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Speaker 1: manson Family Eyes in four? Yeah? Yeah, hopefully so. I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about them restore it doing any kind

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Speaker 1: of restoration on it, are certainly adding any effects to it,

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Speaker 1: so I'm guessing it'll be in It's in all its glory.

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Speaker 1: Now one wonders on the on the question of um

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Speaker 1: of possible cursing in the film, if Wilford Brimley actually

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Speaker 1: did anything like cursing, which has been an argument that's

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Speaker 1: been made. I wonder if they're going to go in

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Speaker 1: and remove anything. I wonder if they're gonna make any changes.

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Speaker 1: Be interested to find out if they take out Wilford

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Speaker 1: Brimley saying the F word, that is that is censorship

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Speaker 1: that will not be tolerated. Um Allegedly. We don't know

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Speaker 1: that for sure that he seasoned Afford, but some have

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Speaker 1: made that that case. If they take out the Brimley Ffford,

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Speaker 1: this is stall in a Strussia absolutely unacceptable. Well we

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Speaker 1: we shall see, we shall see. All right, Well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and close the book on everything right here.

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Speaker 1: But this has been your weekly listener mail episode. Uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: right in. Let us know, do you have responses to

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Speaker 1: what we talked about in this episode? You have responses

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Speaker 1: to our core stuff to blow your mind episodes or

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