WEBVTT - The Mind Of Malone Part 1 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.320 You're tuned into the Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:08.160 Right Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network, 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.560 Material Witness and an Aggregated Battery. I was a hang 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.920 gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:24.919 to her testimony. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright. Welcome to 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.480 another episode of the Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.680 Alonso from Street Gangs dot com street TV, where I 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.280 interview gang members, former game members, hip hop artists, authors, entertainers, 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.360 and other influences. 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Now, normally I'll go 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.840 into our fact check for the previous episode, but you 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.280 know what, we gotta guest this week, let's just go 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.839 straight to it, right Reggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But don't 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.160 we have a way now that it can be viewed? 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.440 Uh yeah yeah, where you can tell them I want 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.760 to do that. Well, we're starting to record our our 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.320 podcast video recorded, but I don't have the specifics of 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.239 where to watch it, where to see it. We still 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.680 got to get those details from our producer, Norm Steele, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.040 and I'll explain that. But for those who are new 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.240 to the show. We're recording this episode and we recorded 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.720 last episode, so this will be our second episode that's recorded. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.720 So let's get straight into our guests. Guess what we 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:42.600 got in the house today, Must Die. Tupac must die. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:47.120 They already know the name. Have to die. Tupac must die, 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.600 Tupac gonna die. We got glasses Malone. What's up? Man? 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.760 You tell us? Man laughing man? People is crazy? Man? 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.600 You all over the place this last month. I'd say 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.160 you are everywhere to last month except on Street TV. Yeah, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.000 but you know what, We've been planning something. I'm glad 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.480 you said that first and started the show with that. Yeah, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.760 you know what, Like I really I was telling Uh, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.600 I was telling O G And I was telling UH 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.040 Reggie that I really want to do something dope with 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.520 your pot, like with your platform, because I really am 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.440 a fan of it. And everybody knowing from the seven, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.800 everybody know from seven Stree watch like everybody know it. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.760 So sometimes you just want to you don't want to 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.279 do nothing just generic. You want to do something special, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.560 And I feel like that's important to me, you know 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.560 what I mean, especially detailing how I came up in 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.560 the streets on the gang life. It's important to do 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.679 something special. So I've been really just praying we figure 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.560 out something really special. But it's it's a done deal. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.640 We locked in. You've been on Bomb first twice. I 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.120 mean you went all of the New York and was 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.919 on Breakfast Club for the third Breast Club for the 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.040 third time. Yeah, I got some some notes I've taken. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.359 I took some extensive notes on how I want to 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.599 interview you, how I want to do it. So you know, 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.760 it's just a matter of coordinating, uh, coming together. Um, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.040 sometimes it takes me like six months to a year 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.479 to get somebody. It took me a minute to get you. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.040 It took about six months to finally get you. James 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.479 disappeared after after you said you wanted to do it. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.640 But I mean I had so much going on. My 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.159 mother deaf at the time that that was that November 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.000 two thousand eighteen November December. Were buried in December. So 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.680 from the time I met you, I think January of 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.560 this year, that's when we started. We hooked back up 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.679 and then we wind up on the same podcast together. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.600 So I guess it was meant that meant that happened, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.520 and I just released part two yesterday. I ain't watching nothing. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.920 I don't watch Foster. Yeah, and people said that Stephen C. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.520 Foster Mural was looking at you during the interview. It 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:54.799 probably was Heed. He tried that's when when as a composer, Yeah, composer. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.880 But but for those of y'all look for I don't 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.880 know why Alex. Alex needs some help with that's only 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.040 you don't get no views like that because because he 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.599 didn't categorize that. He called it this is Buchanan. We 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.320 want to call it, mom, James, I gave it a title. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.719 That's good. Every title is different. But the thing was, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.560 I said the video tape part two visit because I'm 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:25.800 looking for visiting again. James. Well, you know, the good 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.280 thing about those is that people understand because a lot 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.280 of people, you know, they try to criticize and not 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.200 knowing what actually really happened or how you are I 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.400 felt about Vincent, you know what I'm saying. Just you know, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.480 they think that, oh he was killed in that ship. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.320 But I'm tuning in because I want to hear well. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.719 The title of part two is Videotape of events Buchanan 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.680 from pyrou being killed never existed anywhere, and he's all 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.080 in the description and then who reads that, Well, it's 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:03.200 all watch it's point man. We I'm we're here to 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.039 talk to glasses. And I told everybody on bomb first man, 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:13.080 we gotta get this young man on the show man. Yeah, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.520 he came right down, and we really want to get 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.840 you where you at right now? And how you feel 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.560 that how people it's perceiving you right now off of 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.160 Tupac much die. Honestly, the only thing I don't like 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.000 is that it's some kind of weird myth that I 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.240 don't like Tupac like because I made a song that's 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.680 about the streets from a angle where somebody get killed, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.160 even somebody who maybe our hero to a degree, you know, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.960 somebody we grew up listening to, and it really don't 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.800 have It's a very objective song. It's not really a 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.280 subjective take. It's all objective. It's like, it ain't really 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.480 my opinion, it ain't really my personality. It's not the 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.480 it's not the song, it's the title. But even then, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.240 because the video was shot first person, right, so I 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.280 shot it from the in, so the title fit the 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.760 song from the eyes of the person, it was just 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.240 being I'm a little bit. I think I was a 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.480 little bit too creative at that point. And then it 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.119 got to what people don't realize, like when you're watching 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.960 the video. Like I had a conversation with the homie 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.240 and he was like, you know, it was cool. I 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.080 can't believe you made the video when you killed Tupac. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.880 And I was like, well, technically, if you watched the 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.960 video you killed Tupac, I gave you the gun because 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.920 he jumped on you. So I made the viewers. So 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.240 the concept was from the viewers, Like you look from 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.040 the eyes of the person. So that's where the title 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.000 comes out. Just like that attitude. That's what I'm trying 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.280 to tell you. Last week, a lot of people it 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.520 was just like people are tripping on the title. It's 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.360 like judging a book based on its cover without getting 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.199 into the contact and what it's all about. But that's 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.720 what I mean. I didn't kiss that part. But still 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.040 the controversy is behind the title. Well what's funny, is right? 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.080 So like the title was really like I tamed it 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.400 down in my mind because it was like Romeo must 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.600 Die or John Tucker must die, a real pop thing. Um, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.559 it's totally different. From a room in your tweet, because 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.199 the tweet is what makes it different. That and that 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.000 that you know, putting a magnifying glass on the emotions 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.760 of being jumped and from the first person, that's what 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.360 to everybody. Off the title itself, I thought it honestly, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.880 I thought the title didn't even sound that bad, you know, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.640 as crazy as it sound was still first was like, no, man, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.160 we can't put this out. I'm like, whit, Like, man, 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.800 this title sound crazy. I'm like, man, it's a pop titles. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.360 It's like a movie. Yeah. When he when when he 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.400 called me the first time that that this was before 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.520 you put it out to get my opinion, I had 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.080 no clue of what the title was. Uh. If I 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.439 had known what the title was, I wouldn't try to 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:48.360 be like, that's killing Tupac twice. But you know, a 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.560 lot of people ask you questions. A lot of people 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.160 are coming at you with with with different types of ships. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:55.840 You know what I'm saying. You haven't been all the 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.520 way to the breakfast club with this this controversy right here. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:05.439 And my whole thing is, do you see yourself changing 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.880 the title or do you see just this particular shung 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:14.720 going anywhere. Um, it's kind of stuck. Yeah, I'm never 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.360 too late. You know what if I meet the right 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.520 if the right person, kind of like a lot of 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.600 people was mad at me, you feel me Like certain 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.040 people I know, like Mopreme, different homies that I know 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.640 that I knew coming along, and I'm sure they know 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.320 my intentions is pure. But like if somebody close enough said, hey, man, gee, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.360 this really makes me feel bad. You know what I mean? 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:40.040 Because you do that, then not know crazy stalker fans 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:48.439 like that's the who call me. It's like yo on 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.200 some real ship, little homie like that title really hurts 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.920 me and it makes me feel I would do it 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.320 for trash, for the culture. I would do it for it. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.360 I'm not doing it for them A little sick White 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.480 kids who like don't really understand too. They're not really 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.240 fans though, they're just praising another person. Like I'm a 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:08.280 Tupac fan. I grew up really listening to the Tupac watching. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.959 You know, my mom would let me have it because 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:12.920 he had really good lyrics and you know it was 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.160 coolhen I was a kid to have it. You couldn't 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.080 listen to w A. I'll be on first and I'll 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.360 be just a lot of the people on the chat 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.640 boards and all of that, and then when they do 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.760 call ups, I'll be finding out a lot of the people, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.480 all right, age, Um, that's what I'm saying. That's a 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.120 lot of people out there that's on this YouTube in 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.920 their thirties and forties. I'm not saying. I'm saying the 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.440 people who would talk to me if somebody talked to 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.920 me about it and it really made sense, and like 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.600 when you talk to me about it had me thinking 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.640 for a long time. I was like, damn, Jay make 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.840 you know, mam, make a good point, Like but you know, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.920 being a gang member, people addressing with anger that ain't 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.520 gonna get you nowhere with me, Like immediately, I'm like comin. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.960 It was yeah, it was like really made perfect sense, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.600 and it had me thinking hard talking to his first cousin, 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.280 you know, would you know it was like he said something. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.840 If he would have said, you know what, g don't 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.440 make no sense, I really would like my family would 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.880 really like I would have changed it. Um, even when 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.920 Corrupt was cussing me out, if he would have been like, man, gee, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.880 you know I would have changed it. Certain people, you know, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.800 I would I get it if it's close, but you 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.800 meet more people trying to um. First off, talk crazy 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:36.240 to me because asked still it was it was yeah, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.320 because so it was a speaker phone conversation, like I was. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.280 He called me. I didn't know what he wanted, but 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.400 he was like, man, he was just goddamn it, Glass, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.640 Why the funk would you do that fucking title? And 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.400 corrupt is like somebody who really has lived out like 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.240 the first day. You know, he didn't treat me like 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.839 just a washnig like just this. You know a lot 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.600 of the game just don't. They're not fair to like washing. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.920 They treat you like outcast. They do not want to 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:06.560 funk with you. So corrupt dash um cam three niggas 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.480 that don't even care about too. But we'll keep going. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.160 But you don't got to care about it. I'm saying, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.160 it's like certain people that's treated me well, it means 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.960 something to me. Even when he called me like he 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.760 had like James had a really good thing. Oh it was, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.560 it made sense and I was like, damn, that's a 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.320 good point. But most of what I said, no, no, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.080 you meg, But again it was more fear. Yeah, like 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.640 I'm just not scared like, that's my problem is so 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.720 when they come from the fear point I think I 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:39.480 came from. Yeah, he was like the niggas trapping you know, man, motherfucker. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.320 I'm like, man funk all these people. But it wasn't 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:47.000 yet people. Basically, my whole thing is is the concern 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.760 now what what I'm saying to you? And I don't 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.240 think I got my point across. My point is this, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.800 It doesn't matter what the other people say. And I 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.200 told you that it doesn't matter at all. It matters 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.280 what you saying. To think. Once you look at this 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:09.000 title and the feedback that you're getting from Tupac must die. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.200 That's the only thing that matters right here. So if 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.040 you feel that, man, I don't give a would nobody 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.960 else say you said you're a Tupac fan. So you 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.960 have to go deep, not that deep to say, okay, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.840 let me let me switch this. I thought about it 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.960 a thousand times, like before it came out. So before 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.600 it came out, I had the idea to name it 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.760 song Orlando Anderson, right, and it just didn't have no passion. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.400 It's not about like you know, just using somebody's name. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.120 It's you know, all this art is about passion. It's 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.240 always about like delivering a point, delivering and experience delivering 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.640 something more. The title would kind of make it a 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.160 little bit were way more calmer, but also you don't 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.400 get the message like he becomes just around. I don't 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.240 think you would have grabbed out attention it becomes. Even 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.240 though the videos was greatly done, the only thing that 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.000 was done inaccurate about it. And I even like how 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.040 you went back and bought a car of that year. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.120 I don't know if most pliceople know that you went 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.400 through the actual locations. You went to the Arco Guys 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.400 station that was right on the corner, and you didn't 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.680 feel me there. Um. So I appreciate all of that 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.880 that you did. Um you know, I hate that you 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.040 made it seem like Trey vionn lost lost change. But 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.240 other than that, I can't think what funny is. That 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.640 was the hardest part, right because knowing about how that happened. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.880 Because I knew about how that happened, knowing it was 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.560 a gang fight a group of people, it wasn't necessarily 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.720 an assault on the chain, as simple as it sounds, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.800 it became complex to tell the story. And this is 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.600 gonna be the weird part of it, right, I thought 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.800 about it. If if they don't take the change, it 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:59.160 really makes two parts look crazy. So are are are 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.320 gain affiliated? And that's what I'm trying to make sure. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.720 It's always like you try to paint the ground where 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.520 it's objective. I don't want to make it. But but 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.000 you told so much stuff that was factual, but that 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.400 part just makes a fiction. Well, that's the it should 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.760 be fiction. It has to be a bit just enough 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.680 to where it's like it can't be dead on. It's 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.280 not a movie. No, it's not a document it's a movie. 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.040 It's not not a documentary. It's not it's a movie. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.560 So if I show a game fight, that's the only thing. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.360 And the timeline was a little it was kind of 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.560 what it didn't happen is fast. Well, it became something 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.440 that I felt the viewer right could keep up with it. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.160 But that's that's the part of being artistic about telling 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 the story with some of these little inconsistencies. Man, when 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.120 you tell the truth, being one hundred with it and 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.200 a lot of a lot of a lot of gangsters, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.600 a lot of thug niggers, a lot of cash along 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.320 state lives out here. You know over that that type 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.600 of ship right there, drive by the whole nine. A 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.680 lot of cats I've been shot four times, you know 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.720 what I'm saying, and all of them through a drive 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.960 by and one doing a drive by. So going out 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.160 there looking for it don't mean you ain't gonna get 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.040 it too. But what I'm saying is if you do 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.960 a video on some one hundred ship, it got to 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.240 be one huney regardless of And I preached this every 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.640 time I talk. If you equip nigga and you with it, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.639 that's the bottom line. You're fucking with it. You that 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.760 that cat is with the business. Like I said about 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.920 the he's with the business. A lot of the ain't ship. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.959 Nine times out of ten, the average cat ain't been 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.400 just run up on the little because he's gonna dump 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.200 on your ass, you feel me. So when you did that, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.159 if from the fight, if Orlanda would have got dropped, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.520 it should have been in that video because that's the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.840 struggle right there. If you're telling the story how he 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.720 died and how you thinking and looking in his eyes, 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.160 then let's see what really happened. And that's the point 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.399 I'm trying to make know. For sure. So for me, 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.000 for me, right, it was more this is gonna sound crazy, right, 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.840 but it's real. For me, it was about trying to 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.280 make the same point I've been making for twelve years 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:17.080 about gang banking, the mentality. It's not as like the 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.919 story just represented another way to get the point across 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.360 about how people that gang bang you. You usually been 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.080 through something, the mentality, how you react, what you go through, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.280 like what's propelled me to do things? Worried about what 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.320 other people thinking about me if I let this ship go, 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.800 these niggas gonna really think my homies, how they're gonna 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.159 It was more about that. But because I involved Tupac, right, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.200 it became more about that. And I kind of knew 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.280 honestly that it was gonna happen that way. But if 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.760 I if I try to go to detail, like Okay, 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.840 this is one problem, right, I don't. So I know 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.320 what Dre told me, right, I know what Drest shout 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.680 out to freaking drag. I know the story told me, right, 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.800 so I knew what that happened there. I've heard your interviews, 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.119 so I know part of that. I've heard the stuff 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.399 you're talking about, so I know part of that. I 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:09.440 really don't actually know. I wasn't there. So as an artist, right, 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.800 you you paint a picture as close as you can 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.320 yet remaining what I'm saying, to keep it entertaining, yet 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.960 my responsibilities in the street and making it where it's 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.080 like it ain't gonna incriminate nobody. And also like, where 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.200 is somebody that's not from our world could keep up? 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.760 Because that's the thing. Like a lot of people were 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.680 saying that to me. They was like, oh, so you know, um, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.240 people really think the fight was over a chain, And 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.280 like every last person I ever talked to told me, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.040 the fight is not over a change, It's just a 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.760 normal fight. That because we got to the fight a 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.000 lot of times when I was growing up at the 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:43.919 Lago More that's where we would go to Kes Niggers 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:49.080 to fight the fight. And the fight was over the chain. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.920 Orlando was ready for that come up. Orlando got at him, 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.120 approached them and and and try to stats the chain. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.840 Now when he went to stats chain him and tre 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.440 got this chain, Like this trade knows he can't come 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.840 back to the hood without his chain, so he fought 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.320 for his chain. So once all of that is over, 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.080 because we went to the malls. We we talked to 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.159 the security guards. Did he get his ass? What? What? Like? 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.920 Really went down? I really did a roll car? Hell 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:28.119 yeah yeah? So when when? When? When this happens? People 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.720 don't know that the foot locker was closed down for 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:36.359 a dare too that world for locker. They wouldn't give 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.520 up the video of that incident. They were to check 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.720 his It's not to check Tray g father is Tray 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.080 said the niggers tried to take his chain. Okay, basically 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.439 we wanted to know who the niggas was because he 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.399 actually didn't know his name. Now I know all of 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.920 these cats over because my baby mama lived over there 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.040 and I see him and my daughter sayd this is 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.919 this is whoo whoo. Now I knew that he was 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.639 a little hitter. Okay, they look at it as a 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.000 hitter because you know, he jack motherfucker's for a limit 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:15.920 that was just getting down doing this thing. So this fight, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.080 it just starticified everything. Now everybody is up here with 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.720 it hair standard straight up, and everybody is ready. We on. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.679 Everybody is on the mission now you know what I'm saying. 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.679 So all of this started over that It just so 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.320 happened to be a south side cat and the mob 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.359 and these two the hoods is Incompton. You know what 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.879 I'm saying, because the mob in the south side always 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:47.480 been that fact ain't never been, just like Antana's it's 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:56.479 it's no, not at all, so period. Now you have 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:58.840