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Speaker 1: to her testimony. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex

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Speaker 1: Alonso from Street Gangs dot com street TV, where I

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Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles Podcast dot com. Now, normally I'll go

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Speaker 1: into our fact check for the previous episode, but you

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Speaker 1: straight to it, right Reggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But don't

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Speaker 1: we have a way now that it can be viewed?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah yeah, where you can tell them I want

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Speaker 1: So let's get straight into our guests. Guess what we

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Speaker 1: got in the house today, Must Die. Tupac must die.

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Speaker 1: They already know the name. Have to die. Tupac must die,

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Speaker 1: You tell us? Man laughing man? People is crazy? Man?

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Speaker 1: the controversy is behind the title. Well what's funny, is right?

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Speaker 1: So like the title was really like I tamed it

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Speaker 1: it's totally different. From a room in your tweet, because

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Speaker 1: And my whole thing is, do you see yourself changing

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Speaker 1: my intentions is pure. But like if somebody close enough said, hey, man, gee,

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Speaker 1: Because you do that, then not know crazy stalker fans

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Speaker 1: ain't this. No, this ain't him. This ain't how he

424
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: got down. People get mad at that, you know what

425
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and and my whole thing has been

426
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: one with what you're doing. And if people want to

427
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: see the truth, then you give them the truth. You

428
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: don't give them no water down ship and say, okay,

429
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: this is my perception of No, you gotta do your

430
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 1: homework on it. Then put it out there. You know, Reggie,

431
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: you know no, m no, damn to everybody, Alex. I mean,

432
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people out there that's that

433
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: you objected something. No, I understand. I think he did

434
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: a good job. Oh no, he did a one as

435
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: close as an outside because at the end of the day,

436
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: you like, I'm outside, so right you can gather all

437
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: information and then it's always been like prime example, right

438
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: when I did the Big Boy interview, I was saying

439
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: that I was said on rails, like everybody saying trading,

440
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: if trading, get his chain took my bad Like it's

441
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: always been conflicting stories, So it's a conflicting the chain

442
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: and get I've honestly, I still it's always the exact oppositely.

443
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: He just finally made it in a Blad interview that

444
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: the chained it, but even earlier in the video he

445
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: said it was and then always heard it right down

446
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: the middle of what it is. So it depends on

447
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: where you from. So I from the South, feel me.

448
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: Then if I talked to Mikey, you know, I means

449
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: drew rest in peace. Certain homies they be like it

450
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't happen, so you never knew, so you got it

451
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of. And it really wasn't about as crazy as

452
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: it's sam the song. Maybe the action of what happened

453
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: was about the chain, but the song wasn't about the change.

454
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: It's about the mentality. Let me say that, Um, just

455
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: to go back when you said, and I understood what

456
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: you're saying when you said it would have happened. And

457
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: I want to ask James, this being three of them

458
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: and six or seven, you know, some say ten, some say,

459
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 1: fifteen of them. I still believe they would have jumped them,

460
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: evence they didn't see a chain, knowing that they were

461
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: because from from because not even cent of the catch

462
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: that walked through the morow this game banging, you know

463
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, I mean we did that, like

464
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: with Ma had a god damn problem with man. It

465
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: was just so that is with what So that's just activity.

466
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: So now the fight is gonna happen. You you had

467
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: that in the hood. They just riding bike short, catching

468
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: the cripts at the car wasatch getting off the cars,

469
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: just just straight getting the moup. I got another song.

470
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: It's funny, is right? So I have another song that

471
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: talks about almost gonna get killed at Louisburger and nobody

472
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: heard what was crazy to sound because it's based off

473
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: of truth story. But but the Tupac thang. When you

474
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: say Tupac mothers dying, you got game banging ship every day.

475
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Tupac me personally wasn't a game banger to me. A

476
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: lot of cats and this is everybody just Tupacs from

477
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: the hood. Tupac was this. I say, no, no, you don't.

478
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't accept that because you can't just walk into

479
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: my life like that and and say you this one

480
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: old cat. You ain't that feel me? But I'm the

481
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: same way Orlando, which with the business, he was a crib.

482
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: Tupac jumped him. He felt he had to do what

483
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: he had to do. Who's writing? Who's wrong? That's and

484
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of the song. Somewhere in this thing,

485
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: right it's like, well, glasses, you know you're saying Tupacs on,

486
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I never said that. If I'm rolling with you giants

487
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: and we walk out this motherfucker can building, you could

488
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: be wherever you was from right now. We're together still, Yo,

489
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: that's my boy. So you we together, dude comes and

490
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: jump on you. I don't give a funk what it's over.

491
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm for the busted ship. That's just how it goes.

492
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: So I'm one of the people that's like, I don't

493
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: think Tupac is wrong. I don't really feel like that.

494
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: And I also understand what it's like to be but

495
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: Tupac the stick of the soon because you're seeing you're

496
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: looking through Orlando eyes and the Tupac must die because

497
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: Tupac hit me. Okay, two Motherfucker's fighting rule Number one

498
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: motherucker pecked me out. I'm coming to look for you.

499
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Ain't waiting no more. Yeah, so, but Tupac is gone now.

500
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: So why Tupac gotta die twice? Orlando didn't get killed

501
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: by by by by that he died by the when

502
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: he died by the same way that we always die

503
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: every time. But what I'm trying to say to you is,

504
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: what's the difference between Tupac and Orlando. There's no difference,

505
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: not at all. They both died of the same motherfucking game.

506
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: So why do Tupac gotta die twice through the eyes

507
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: of Orlando? I hope you understanding what I'm saying. I'm

508
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: picking up because because Tupac felt that he had to

509
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: prove to his homies at the time that I'm with

510
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: it except me for being I'm trying to get in

511
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: this cut. I'm not just a rapper. Yeah, I'm not

512
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: just rapper. I'm trying to be straight gagst on it.

513
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: So but okay, even even though you got you got

514
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: one of these in the hood, you got down, you

515
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: got cast that that ain't gangst about, not about you

516
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: got cast this out. There just been a third because

517
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: you see this cat and how people look at him

518
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: and give him depth and all of that ship. You

519
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of different types of niggas out there,

520
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: you feel me, So let's just put Tupac right here.

521
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: He's definitely not on the same page as Orlando. And

522
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm not praising because I'm from a different it's just different.

523
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: It's just totally different. Okay. So but here you have

524
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: a Lando, here you have Tupac. Tupac got killed for

525
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: putting his hands on the man. You feel me, and

526
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: I think every man in this motherfucker we'll saying that

527
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: you put your hands on me, especially y'all right back

528
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: me the way you did. I'm gunning for you. Feel me.

529
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Everybody on the streets know the law. You know what

530
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everybody on the street should expect that to happened.

531
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: You feel me? But when you when? When when when

532
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: you take and do a do a Tupac is well

533
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: known and you say Tupac must die. Yeah, why you

534
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: don't say Orlando must die? You did the same ship. Yeah,

535
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Listen right, So, but every

536
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: last story, right, it's told from um Tupac's perspective. If

537
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: we look at the film. If we look at the documentary,

538
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: the film basically is telling everybody, this is why a

539
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Tupac got killed. So Tupac shouldn't have put his hands

540
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: on a on this gunner. Tupac didn't know that guy.

541
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Tupac and still be alive. Got all kinds of different scenario.

542
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Tupac would be alive right now today if he had

543
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: never touched the Lando. I say that, or he had

544
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: met his faith in somewhere else. Orlando wouldn't be where

545
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: he had if he wouldn't have ran into his situation

546
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: that he did. You know what I'm saying. So let's

547
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: just choke it up. We got two bad guys, both

548
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: of them funked up when it cost him. Wait a minute,

549
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: it cost him their life. But that's the point of

550
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: the song. There's really no winner, I know, but Tupac

551
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: lose at the end of the day, my brother, because

552
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: now you don't woke him up from the day, and

553
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: now you don't choke him out with Tupac must die.

554
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: That's glorifying Orlando's Orlando. It's saying, Tupac, this is why

555
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: you got your cappiell come. I hope that's not now

556
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: everybody is looking at it like that. I'm saying, perspective.

557
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I have to look at it like that because both

558
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: of these guys is trying to live in the same

559
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: fucking world. But it's in glasses actually telling a story

560
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: about revenge and retaliation in the l a gang world.

561
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: And this is what could happen. Not necessarily that could

562
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: be that it happens to us and our friends, our

563
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: whole life. Yeah, I'm just saying right now, right, it's

564
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: it's different entertainers, right, that's coming on the scene claiming gangs. Yeah,

565
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a it's a it's

566
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: another rapper that's from the mob. It's another rapper that's

567
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: from Tree Top singers, rappers every time, right, everybody's joining

568
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: gangs because nobody is saying, hey, this could happen to anybody.

569
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: It's always putting this place like, well, no, they pay

570
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: some money to have these people killed, not that it

571
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: happened the way it happens to our friends, our whole life,

572
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: everybody we grew up where it happens the same way.

573
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: So to me, Now, that's the only thing about art, right, perception,

574
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: how somebody perceived My intent was never to glorify Orlando.

575
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: It was to humanizing first, right, because I always felt

576
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: like when I listened to people talk he was a villain,

577
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: but he ain't no different than any one of us. Orlando,

578
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: No what I'm saying, he grew up how we grew up,

579
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: where you feel the pressure of making sure people know

580
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: your reputation it stand up. You gotta stand up for

581
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: yourself at all costs. So telling our story that's not

582
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: to exclude Tupac. Is he a brother just like one

583
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: of us, right, But our culture right creates this pressure

584
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: that was the goal of the song. Now I don't

585
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: know how to really feel about you know, because I

586
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's it don't seem glory. Like literally, like

587
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: two seconds later after Tupac get shot, you see Orlando

588
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: andything I killed the same way, and the like, yeah,

589
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: it writes it on the screen because I mean, I

590
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you couldn't go that long with the video.

591
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: But I told you that should be part two. I

592
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: called you after that I should be one to do

593
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: what I think I would if I was you. I'll

594
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: do it part two so people will see where you're

595
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: really coming from. Because what y'all just said just saw

596
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: is in the street. I ain't seen it, but I

597
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: told him, I said, you need to do a part

598
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: two or Orlando dies, and then maybe people will get

599
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: off you. Yeah, but I don't mind people. I don't

600
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: mind people, you know, being on me. Like I'm not

601
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: praising because you because you you got the you know,

602
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: for lack of better word, but the word that people

603
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: use now in the cloud off of it. You got

604
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: the cloud off of it. And I know you. I

605
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: don't think and I said, for a lack of a

606
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: better word, I don't like that word. That's but but

607
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: glasses he does stuff like that. You know what Glasses

608
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: just just said in an interview recently, he said, Shaquille O'Neill,

609
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: there's a better I mean, uh, what's that point? Dennis

610
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Robin was a better, a better basketball basketball player the

611
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Seaquille O'Neill. It only in different ways. The Lees won't

612
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: even just it's that's in different ways they are. I'm

613
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: ask you a question, risk, Oh listen, he can shoot

614
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: free thrones. He goodn't they shot about the defense the way?

615
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: To me? Two things may ring the Dennis Romans Michael Jordan,

616
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: how many different Teamschael Jordan before the Bad Boys with

617
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: the Bad Boys that train on that. Yeah, but I'm

618
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell you let me bottom line, how do you

619
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: really feel about the title now that is out there,

620
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: now that it's done, now that people are saying it's

621
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: too late to change it, how do you really feel?

622
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's just let everybody know how you truly feel about that.

623
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: It hurts it, honestly, right, it hurts me that it

624
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: hurts people, Like I could deal with people being angry, right,

625
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: if you just angry, I get it. I'm really in

626
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: my heart trying to find a level of disrespect. Like

627
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: I look at the title over and I'm like, well,

628
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: where is the disrespect? You know what I mean? Like,

629
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: I really can't resonate. I mean with people feeling like

630
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful. Um, it just bothers me that people are hurt,

631
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: people being mad. I could deal with that people being hurt.

632
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: That's different because my intentions was to never hurt someone.

633
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: It was to tell a story and make sure I

634
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: got your attention so you can see this story. I'm

635
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: curious to know, like what age range is most offended

636
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: by this song because most of Tupac's fans, the hardcore fans,

637
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: would be in their forties today, late thirties, early forties.

638
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: But it seems like you're getting a lot of this

639
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: negative backlash from a younger generation. We don't know. We

640
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: don't really know because most of it is on YouTube.

641
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you honestly, like I'm just about my

642
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: personal conversation. People are necessarily real fans of Tupac. We

643
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: can't say that I'm just listen what I'm saying. Hear

644
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: me right, so and soult to insults. It's like people

645
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: love to find someone right that passed away right and

646
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: attached himself to their greatness. I really believe in my heart,

647
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: like when I was listening to Tupac, I listened to

648
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: I have all this man's music, a lot of his music.

649
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: If you listen to any of my earlier music, you

650
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: can tell I'm inspired by a lot of his stuff.

651
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: I use a lot of his stuff in my ship.

652
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Like my last project, I got a song called Step.

653
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: It uses some Tulpac stuff in there. My next song

654
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: using some Tupac like this ridiculous, You know what I

655
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: mean to even I'm a real fan of the man,

656
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Like I grew up listening to his music. I remember

657
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: when he came on people protesting mad that he got

658
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: out of jail. Why would you say that you don't

659
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: believe that they are real fans, but you could be

660
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: a real fan because you said he was in Australia, right,

661
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: How did the people accept you in Australia? It was

662
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: like someone, how did you feel about it? Like watching

663
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: these people jumping in and how did your name and

664
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: all of that? How did that do you? From the inside?

665
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: It just made me feel like my music was, you know,

666
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: presenting themselves the same way that people gravitated to Tupac No.

667
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: I feel the same. Yeah, I'm talking about something, but

668
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about these people never most of these people

669
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: never seen the man. They never you know, it's not

670
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: it's not I'm not saying that it's Michael Jackson got

671
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: six million more fans. He've been there for a long time.

672
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: But my point is, I don't know if that's really

673
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: a fan. Like I'm really starting to get into this place,

674
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: like even like when my boy nip it's a certain

675
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: thing where you have these people who are attaching himself

676
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: to his legacy and using his legacy right for social relevance,

677
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: social currency. That's that's YouTubers, and and and and and

678
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: it's more than YouTubers. It's an artists. No, but it's no,

679
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's regular everyday people. It ain't just them,

680
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: it's people who want to be a part of the

681
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: people walk up to him and see and see something

682
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: the body and the way that they die. I mean,

683
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: because we don't have people that die be don't have

684
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Big Pond die and probably have people listening to it

685
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: right now don't know who the hell Big Pond was. Well,

686
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: that's that's also a crazy thing, because your your career elevates.

687
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: If you go to jail, your your career boost. If

688
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: you die, your career tragic death. I mean, it's just crazy.

689
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: Any anything that no certify change. And you know, so

690
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: you get exposed to more people. People love a victim.

691
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean we you don't love aggressive, I mean every

692
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: now and then you will, but people love the victim.

693
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying Tupac don't have mellans of fans.

694
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's not the point. What I'm saying

695
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: is I think you have more people attaching themselves to

696
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: his legacy to just believe in something. I really listened

697
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: to his music. It shaped my life. He was talking

698
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: about me as a kid. It fits the life right now,

699
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying people who are not outside the life

700
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: prime example, right, I don't happening for you then, because

701
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: you show was a praising Snoop. I've never in my

702
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: life praise Snoop my god, Breakfast Club, how's that praising

703
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: you when you're talking to me with nick smart background starts,

704
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: That's why don't do that. No, I'm just calling a

705
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: space to space eight, like I don't have no horses

706
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: in this race. Like like where I'm from and how

707
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: we grew up, we do our thing for me, we ain't.

708
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm not being cool with nobody. I'm not gonna give

709
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Snoop no extra props just to be cool with him.

710
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give Tupop no extra props because he passed.

711
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give nobody nothing next you. I'm gonna

712
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: call it a spade to spade. That's the only way

713
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: I could look in the mirror. And for the record,

714
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: I agree with Glasses about park Um, I mean about

715
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Snooping and prod to um. Let's let the listeners know

716
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: exactly what. Okay, I might go to ninety six. Kay,

717
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: ninety six Glasses just pretty much said that Park was

718
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Snoop was bigger than Pop, and then ninety

719
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: six out on they were at the same level. I

720
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: say Snoop was bigger than Pop from the ninety he

721
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: was around when Snoop. When Snoop was there and Snoop

722
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: was doing it was more of the dog pound that

723
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: before tuparc came. Snoop Dogg was loving it because he

724
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: was the center of attention. But then when you got

725
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: a tuparc that comes, they even pushed me then to

726
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: the shide. But I mean what Pop was doing this

727
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: thing over at Interscope, I mean he was doing movies.

728
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you about

729
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: the power of death Row. And it's not fair to

730
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: tell you because you was there, right and you was there.

731
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all from the outside the power of

732
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking death Row. Because sometimes I think y'all don't get it,

733
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: like y'all don't get it, but y'all get it dog like.

734
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Do y'all know that anything that y'all was pushing to

735
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: make everything to the streets, Snoop, it was nothing like that.

736
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: You feel me and that's why I made it, really

737
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: and that's why I believe the the eq or the

738
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: equal the person that made that, and I think we

739
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: all took it away from me. It should, it should.

740
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: It's fair to get shook, It's fair to get shook

741
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: understood how we need to be presented. And he probably

742
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: was listening to some people that knew how the machine

743
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: and not just Jimmy. I'm talking about the wed looked

744
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: in the streets. It looked like something you've never seen before.

745
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: And that was because the people that he had with

746
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: you that was pushing that actually brought in real life

747
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: game bangers to the streets into the music business. And

748
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: people only hear that you got these type of guys

749
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: out there. Now they are seeing them now, they are

750
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: being built and touched by them down, they're being assaulted now.

751
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: They have been like, whoa, why the just small away

752
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: and get all these foods from and these ain't no

753
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: little man. I gotta get off another topic because I

754
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: just thought about it. Were you there, James? I wasn't,

755
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: But were you there when you stop it? But when

756
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: when they got into it with Luke Scott Scott Walker?

757
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: Because I gotta find somebody that was there because man,

758
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: they got it, like the Miami dudes put hands and

759
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and and I never heard of this when all these guys,

760
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: you got one guy to say that they can come

761
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: into death row and beat the shift out of everybody

762
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: in death broke goddamn line because you didn't had to

763
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: go range storm, you had to go through That's not

764
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: but we're telling about being check this out. Ain't nobody

765
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: whipped death row ass being Luca goddamn line. I'm gonna

766
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: tell you right now, Luke, I'd like to jump into

767
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: this one. But your boys and nobody they know this

768
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: ain't happening. So the point I'm saying back to that

769
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: right when Pot got a death row, it gave him

770
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: the street look. He needed to certify where he needed

771
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: to go to catch up with a dog, to catch

772
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: up with dog, that's what mattered. Like, that's not me.

773
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Somehow it's being considered like I'm disrespecting him or I

774
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: don't like him, and I'm like, yeah, I just you

775
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: feel me. Let me ask you something. If you believe that,

776
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: if you believe Snoop was bigger than Pop after you are,

777
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: that's my point. He said equal, You said equal, he

778
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: said and he gave a specific year range. Man, he did?

779
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: He gave the year range. Did you you premiered this

780
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: video in early July to like a packed house at

781
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: a spot here in l A. What was the immediate

782
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: initial reaction once you played that video in front of

783
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: a couple hundred people. So that was funny, right, So

784
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: people came out. I had a big Diesel truck for

785
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: me with the video, and people knew they was coming

786
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: out to watch a video. So when I announced the

787
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: name of the video, I was like, like, y'all came

788
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: to check out my video. I'm finn to premier my video.

789
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: It's called Tupop Must Die. I'm first off. As soon

790
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: as I said that, it was like a gas for air.

791
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I remember everybody it was all kind of you know,

792
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: anybody like I tried to make it small, but a

793
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: variety of people like that was my goal to get women,

794
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: just a variety white people or anybody. And when I

795
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: said that it was a gas for air, I said,

796
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm a player for y'all once then I'm explained to

797
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: you and I played for you again. Played it the

798
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: first time. People just was glued to it. But you

799
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: could tell people was talking to each other. They didn't

800
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: know what to think. They were just like devastated, like

801
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: what is going on? And they watched it and some

802
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: people got it and people started clapping like, oh, this

803
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: is crazy. So then I got on the mike and

804
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: I started explaining, like this was the idea. I feel

805
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: like people don't understand what it's like being a game member.

806
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: The pressure, you wonder, it's not just this extra level

807
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: of provido like you think it's a It's a fear

808
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: and a dire need to protect your reputation at all costs.

809
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: I explained what I was thinking with the concept and

810
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: what I you know, had hoped to get across with

811
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: the song and video. Um. I played it again and

812
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: then everybody clapped at that point, um because at that

813
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: point now they kind of understand it a little more.

814
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: And I said this many times. If Or London would

815
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: have went back to the hood, he was facing a

816
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: lot of ridicule because niggas would have been you ain't

817
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: on what you said, you is you let a rapper

818
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: whoop your ass and you know, you know you know

819
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: how to home better than anybody. You know how we go, Yes, exactly.

820
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: The homeless is the cruelest joke and they is the work, Like, No,

821
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: that's not a laughing matter at all. It's serious because

822
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: now you gotta clean and fight for your everything, your ship.

823
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: You know he got packed out though to say, but

824
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: it don't matter Tupuc took off to everybody. Nobody gonna

825
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: say nothing that wunch you out, fuck you up. That

826
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: really ain't nobody gonna have a joke for that. Nig's

827
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: gonna say the real mom you're gonna you know, right,

828
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: like if Drake and fired on me, it's like different, Yeah,

829
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: it's didn't I have to compare Tupaca. Lord, let me rage.

830
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: Hold up, I'm saying somebody not of the culture, not

831
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: of the culture, if they punch you out and ship

832
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: and it don't matter that the real motherfucker's end up

833
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: getting at you. It's the first motherfucker. Ain't they got

834
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: the damn take people would have been playing the tape.

835
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: If you get into what your old lady, you just

836
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: say that when Tupac did that, ship like, it ain't

837
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: gonna even matter what sugar nobody else did to you.

838
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: It's only gonna matter that whole situation is gonna turn

839
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: into one person sucking you up. So that means all

840
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: Orlando talked about after that fight is I gotta get

841
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: this fool. All he thought about, all the thought about,

842
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: I gotta get to me right now. That's all I

843
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: want to be thinking about. This is the coldest thing

844
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: is that that the homies really didn't think that he

845
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: was gonna come back like that, that it was just

846
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen right then and there. Oh man, it wouldn't

847
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: have been no other opportunity though. Yeah, left six six

848
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: to they could have posted it up, yeah, but it

849
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: would have been more difficult to when it came back

850
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: to Compton and made it happen that So, I mean,

851
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: he could have did something, but just for that to happen,

852
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: you gotta know where it from. You packed me out.

853
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm coming back, that's all. And everybody got to understand

854
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: that that's the war. The way he did it. The warped.

855
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Do you know they were that close to giving up,

856
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: And that's what I said. They were that luck up

857
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: and my son dra told me they didn't want to

858
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: do it. Well, that's what the new conspiracy or the

859
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: new thing is that they were going to do a

860
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: to ask for a fair one. I'm not talking about

861
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: that I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking I'm saying, yeah, well,

862
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: d yeah, yeah, well Dreda said he, Now you know

863
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: what would have happened if day to pull a Sugar

864
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: over and they got out of the car and said

865
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: they wanted fair you got I don't if y'all would

866
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: have popped off, they would have popped off on top

867
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, everybody got life twisted and think

868
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: that this was on the strip, exactly on the strip,

869
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: of it was off the strip, Flamingo and Cold. It

870
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: wasn't that the strip, but it was traffick traffic. Then

871
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: you would have on the strip where you see everything

872
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: where you ain't beinna pull up on the strip on

873
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: the fight night and then turn off and then she'll

874
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: be able to busting you and you just ain't doing

875
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: that in traffic. But when Sugar tried to park to

876
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: the hospital, didn't he end up going on the strip

877
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: and went back. So it is easier the way it

878
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: went down. So but a lot of people say it

879
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: was on the strip. What it is? Right? When you

880
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: were saying that, right, he was like, this is what

881
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: glasses doing. No glasses just thinks like right, I'll read

882
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: I could be chilling in the hood. I'm gonna read.

883
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm reading right, I'm reading, so I'm always thinking, I'm

884
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: always processing. So sometimes when I say something right, it

885
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: looks crazy. Like when I would say robbing is better

886
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: than shock, right, that just sounds obsurd because shock is

887
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: this mountain of a man. Feel me, you you look

888
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: at him. You know it's the favorite title, the most dominant.

889
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, you hear all these things, right, but thinking

890
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: man like. So when I said it to him where

891
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: he's like, m shock and Shock is gonna cust me

892
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: out about this. But Shock tell me two things Shot

893
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: do better than this robbing? Scoring is one. What is

894
00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: the other thing? No, he doesn't. Uh, it wasn't rebounded

895
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't close. He probably a better fit, though, shooter,

896
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: even though shot about the same, He say, uh, but

897
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: the scoring part it was it was a big difference.

898
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Drawing defenders though, yeah, double because you didn't have to

899
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: play bags offered then and they kicked it out to

900
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: who they lagged off for him aggressive though, when he's

901
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: more than that. Right, So right, we we we disregard

902
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: offense right because we look at offense right as shooting

903
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: and scoring I'm scoring rather and passing. Okay, there's this

904
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: thing called offensive rebounds. It's probably the most damaging thing

905
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: you keep doing all back into when you get it down.

906
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: Fam Me right, fam me right. So this is the

907
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: greatest offensive rebounder every percentage. Right, he's by far the

908
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: best rebounder ever, especially of you know, modern errors rebounded

909
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: and defen but then it in offensively. He was the

910
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: greatest offensive rebounder ever. Now Howard sent this to you, right,

911
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: you you're talking about Michael Jordan. Now everything I say

912
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: sound crazy. Michael Jordan came back in They lost in

913
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: the in the semifinals of the Eastern Conference, not even

914
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: the finals, the semifinals. Michael back. Michael came back. He

915
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: came back in the playoffs of that year, came back

916
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Right, So they lost,

917
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: And it wasn't because Michael Jordan came back. It was

918
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: because for years and years, right, the Bulls had an

919
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: answer defensively for everybody else that could dominate at that level. Right, You,

920
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: aink wasn't necessarily a big dominant center. He was a good,

921
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, smooth guy. For that most part. They can

922
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 1: guard everybody power four down the first time the Bulls

923
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: ran into somebody they couldn't guard with Shaquille O'Neil, he

924
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: put them out immediately right, they couldn't guard him. They

925
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: get Dennis Rodman the next year they destroy him in

926
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: the same finals. Dennis Rodman broke three two to three

927
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: different game offensive rebounds. So that means you're throwing up

928
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: bricks enough to where this man got ten, But you're

929
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: leaving out the point that Michael's back and you're healthy.

930
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: It was he wasn't never unhealthy. It wasn't It wasn't

931
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: about him. He couldn't guard shock. It don't matter what

932
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: but but but what happened. We just talked about the

933
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: point about the point, right, But that's the that's the

934
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: topic we're talking about. Glasses, glasses talking about He says

935
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: very controversial things, but maybe it makes a little sense

936
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: of what you're saying, and it makes a lot of sense.

937
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: That's the reality. Like a lot of you know, the

938
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: greatest fifty players, Is Dennice wronger than the top fifty, Yeah,

939
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: he's not. He shouldn't be because because you're just counting

940
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: defense and I'm not just just just accounting defense. On

941
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: every championship team has that lockdown defender, then without that

942
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: lockdown defend, the you're not getting the ring. The Lakers.

943
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: It was Rick Fox. This was a great uh um

944
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: defensive player, but he's not remember when the best player

945
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: as that's their wrong though it's okay for the people,

946
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: it's okay for even some of the best professionals to

947
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: be wrong. Was good, Like I'm saying, his job was

948
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: different and he did his job better because he specialized

949
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: in rend You always a center that double tream sometime

950
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: triple team. I think Shaq, I think Shaq, and I

951
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: bet you his rebounds is not that far far off that.

952
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: But the point I'm saying that even the point, the

953
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: point I'm saying is everything I say comes across like

954
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: people say controversial. It's not. I'm not really not think

955
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: he said in reading Look look for that to happen.

956
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is because if you tell the truth,

957
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: that's what it's really like. If you stop trying to

958
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: make people like you and start saying what you really think,

959
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna get. No, no, no, no,

960
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: not that doing something totally. You know, some people can't

961
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: imagine if you saying what you really think all the time.

962
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying all the time, but imagine if

963
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: your girl comes out right, if your old lady come

964
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: out wearing his outfit and you're like that motherfucker, is

965
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: she like you like it? And it's she like what

966
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: you think? It's the ugliest motherfucking like you know what

967
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: you need to jump to my wife and everybody else,

968
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: But it don't look right to me. No, that's and

969
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: see the point is that's what inspired me, as funked

970
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: up as it sounds, to go through what I'm going

971
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: to do, because if every last person where you grew

972
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: up listening to the people you grew up respecting, it

973
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: is just honest. My big Homeaine never said nothing to

974
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: make me like him. I went out like a mark.

975
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: That ship was like call just like that me. You

976
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: were not like a mark. It was like, you know what,

977
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: you could have put up a better effort when they

978
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: was tripping and really represented yourself, you know, and next

979
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: time it's no, man, you're Mark, get your ship together.

980
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: It ain't never been. I don't, I don't. I didn't

981
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: get coddled. I'm not coddling the public. I'm not gonna

982
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: say something to make them feel better about me, Like

983
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: if you if you care about the truth, I'm gonna

984
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: give you the best version of it that I know.

985
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: Give me. Actually, have you ever thought that you might

986
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: get a little somebody might come at you one day

987
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 1: in a firefucking way forward the title of the song, Uh,

988
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: somebody that you know you might be somewhere let's say

989
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: them all and some cats say, oh that that dude

990
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: that did the video on Tupac and feel that that

991
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: you just how you ever felt like your ship might

992
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: be in danger one day? But that way for walking

993
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: with being a crypts, Well, think about it. Right when

994
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: I first came in the game, you don't, you don't

995
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: feel like that's walking on them all? Being a blood

996
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: broke your wall at, choking your cutters everywhere. You ain't

997
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna, but you worry. You watch you keep talking,

998
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: keep going. I'm going through and I'm in my court,

999
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: and I got a red hat on. I'm not damn

1000
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: because I'm going down not a second and hoover, I'm

1001
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: keeping my hat on. I got my gun right, I'm

1002
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna keep my shirt on. But you got your head

1003
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: on the swivel. Okay, you on the swivel, so that

1004
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: that's the that's the answer to the question. The answer

1005
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: is I'm not taking off my red hat for nobody

1006
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: now if well, I was just responded by saying, that's

1007
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: how you feel, he said, because of the song. I'm

1008
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: just saying, then you have to give up your crypok

1009
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: car too if you got me all that way. And

1010
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: that's that's all I was saying. No, No, people got

1011
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: a better understanding. Now we're trying to We're trying, yeah,

1012
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: because I mean we asked some good questions. Yeah, yeah,

1013
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: fantasy and and and like always you come off like

1014
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: a like like a king, and and I like how

1015
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: you talk, very articketed. So but what I'm saying is,

1016
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: like I said on first, I want people to really

1017
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: understand you opposed to Oh no, don't judge me because

1018
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: I made this title. I want people to understand why

1019
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: you actually this is the song. This is why I

1020
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: said it. You feel me. It ain't just to make

1021
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Tupac look bad. I did it because I want people.

1022
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: I still don't understand how Tupac look bad. Well, if

1023
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: you take other people, other people's their perception of what

1024
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Tupac might die, must die that means a whole that

1025
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: opens up a can of old different ship. It's not

1026
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: what you what you think. I'm not saying Tupac must

1027
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: die because he already I'm not. I'm not saying it

1028
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: it was the person. But you're right, it was the

1029
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: person who got jumped. But you right at a certain

1030
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: place is it probably is a bit a lot of

1031
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: people to take it could have ensued if it was

1032
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: the one that didn you're seeing a lot of people

1033
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: would have probably been cool with that. What do you

1034
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: think about the title Baby Lane Rides for his set?

1035
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Does that set? I'm saying titles? That was still kind

1036
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: of the best title, right, The best title right was

1037
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: what it was. That was what that was. That was

1038
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: the being pressure. But but James doesn't like Tupac must die?

1039
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: What not that I don't like it. I just don't

1040
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: understand why would you come up with a concept said

1041
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: as so harsh? My whole thing would have basically, but

1042
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm understanding where it comes. It's just first person. It

1043
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: was about me, like once I watched the video once

1044
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: that was it. I get it. And the story Okay,

1045
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: you get it. Other people don't get it. That's why

1046
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: he's here. Because you got maybe a million months. I'm

1047
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: actually a little shocked, don't under the backlash. To tell

1048
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: the truth. What's funny is because I saw the video,

1049
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't even have to be you don't like this.

1050
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Tupock didn't even have to be. It

1051
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't even have to be. Everybody don't have to it

1052
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: didn't have to be like even like Tupacs because he

1053
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: was too close to ship. It's like this Reggie says

1054
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: ship on bump first that I disagree with all time

1055
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: when he say this something such, mother should be dead

1056
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: at tripping off. This guy death like that, we as

1057
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: we as people have not just a black man, but

1058
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: we as people gotta got at least respected dead, you

1059
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then this mother fuck over here?

1060
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: Did this motherfuck over here there any game man? You

1061
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: respect biggie more than you respect to you? Goddamn line.

1062
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate now, but no called me

1063
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: and didn't. Nobody said the only thing I said about

1064
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: biggies he didn't deserve to die and Tupac's shouldn't have died.

1065
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. I just said that. I hope

1066
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: you caught that when I'm worried about people's receptions. I'm

1067
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: telling you how I feel about it. See, and that's

1068
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: my point. So when you walk in this same mode,

1069
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: now this is you like my o g ummies, that's

1070
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: the mode I'm walking it. I'm not thinking twice about

1071
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: people and they I have to think to myself, right,

1072
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: what's really disrespectful? The title is insensitive at his best,

1073
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: right that I mean, at his worst. That's the worst

1074
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: thing I can figure out. That's the song. I never

1075
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: disrespected his name, his legacy. I never called him on

1076
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: his name, all the stuff that you really say when

1077
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: you really finish you the motherfucker from somewhere else. I

1078
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,959
Speaker 1: didn't never say it because I wanted to make sure

1079
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: the concept was objective as possible. That's why I don't

1080
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: have a problem with what happened to Biggy, because it's

1081
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: crazy this because what he's saying that he was from

1082
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: the other side, something that that that that I was

1083
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: with at the time that die and setting them have died,

1084
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't a real more. Is it time? Is

1085
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: it time to just start just saying like this ship

1086
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: it's all senseless these for no reason at all, Biggy

1087
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: with no like no real things like they said Tupac

1088
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: when no real goddamn thugs like he was saying, he

1089
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: was he was winning and he was buck Wow. True enough,

1090
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: anybody can be like that. Anybody can be like that.

1091
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: But you know, cats gotta twisted. You can't just go

1092
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: to a hood today at thirty five forty and say,

1093
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: just when I'm playing my feet, what's up home with that?

1094
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: You ain't having that? They accepting it now. It is

1095
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: weird and that's why she is so fucked up. Now,

1096
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: I agree. People people are getting shot and women are

1097
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: getting shot because they're sitting in the car with a

1098
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: red shirt on. Can't pull up and don't like that

1099
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: red shirt. Come on, man, game banging this wrong concept.

1100
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: What's funny is well, so I'm not you know quite

1101
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: where y'all at. But everybody I knew what we from.

1102
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: I grew up with him. Yeah, we knew each other, moms,

1103
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: it's a whole another relationship. I mean, like, plus you

1104
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: got you're from a smaller hood where it's more tight net.

1105
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: Everybody probably on that whole. It was like I should

1106
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: just like that too. But see you when you have

1107
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: family from different different backgrounds, you know you got cousins.

1108
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: That's you know, crips are my cousins is blood and

1109
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: then you got damning every blood catch you know, it's

1110
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: working with a female in the crib neighborhood and you

1111
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: meet this motherfucker and that motherfucker. That that's how it

1112
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: was back then in the day. Now, my boy, you've

1113
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: been that catched me over there hanging out and sitting

1114
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: on nobody porch and they know who you is. You're

1115
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna get your capaire. How do you go when you

1116
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: go over to the south side when you used to

1117
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: go southide? I go over there right down today. I

1118
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: go over there right now today. I pull up, I

1119
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: get out, I go, I sit on the porch and

1120
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: and and I talked to Pam. You know what I'm saying,

1121
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: that little Yanks has come through And don't say nothing.

1122
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: If I'm being disrespectful, you gotta right to come at

1123
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: me that way. But when I go through your hood,

1124
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm going through there for one reason, one reason only

1125
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: to deal with my daughter and have a conversation with

1126
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: her mama. And then I bounced, I'm not on something

1127
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: that was fifteen years ago. I bypassed uh my daughter

1128
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: up to go shoot at these cats this way, Burris

1129
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: are that way. It was totally different back in the days.

1130
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: You feel me. So it's it's you know, it's just

1131
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: how how you are. You know, it depends on what

1132
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: your character is. So money is right, is um? It

1133
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: used to be like that right when I grew up,

1134
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: Like you had to really be from around the way

1135
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: to even be down like you you couldn't be from there,

1136
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: like if you wasn't from around the way. The first

1137
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: time in life, right that I've seen. So when I'm

1138
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: cutting my chops, I gotta put on that fifteen. When

1139
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm cutting my chops, I'm doing everything grad I get

1140
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: out of high school. I'm hustling every day, game banging

1141
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: every day, doing the norm. You know what I'm saying,

1142
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Like whatever we're doing. One of the one of the

1143
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: people I respected the most, This dude put me on.

1144
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: His name was Moto, called him psych or rest in peace,

1145
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: and he brought a guy over to the neighborhood to

1146
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: getting courted on. This man about years old. We're almost

1147
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: the same age. Come to find out, this man with

1148
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: from me is close at one time. So he's like, man,

1149
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: this is my boy. I've been messing with him. You know,

1150
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: we need to get him courted on. How this nigga

1151
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: grown like from the rule. So I was explained that

1152
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: this ain't how this works. No, gee, you know it's different.

1153
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: You know when I'm you know when I'm telling you,

1154
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: he's sild, he's solid. I'm like, this man, a grown

1155
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: ass man. Why would even a grown ass man want

1156
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: to be from a game? So me and him bump

1157
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: heads about it. But you know, to a degree, he's

1158
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: like my superior. He's somebody that put me on being

1159
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: off the porch to the same. Maide what I mean.

1160
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: But he a year or two older than me, but

1161
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: we he was off the porch when we was eight nine.

1162
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: He was already doing that left. He had already dropped

1163
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: out of school for me. They was already shootingiggas when

1164
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: I was in high school for me. So let me

1165
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: explain to you. I have no idea why the homie

1166
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: really liked him. He just liked this nigger. Long story short.

1167
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: They court him on and they give him the hood name.

1168
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: So he named after you know, hunters have a teachert

1169
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: his name is Gangster seven. Right, So I have this

1170
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: weird feeling the whole time, like man, this ship crazy.

1171
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, shot up ship and fought niggers

1172
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: and did all kind of done that ship. And this

1173
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: motherfucker come over here two days and be named after

1174
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: the neighborhood for me, and he might as well be

1175
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: feel me. So I felt some kind of way, but

1176
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: I set up because motto was my guy. Whatever, some

1177
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: bullshit happens. Homie get killed some all you know in

1178
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: hood stuff, you know, I mean on homies. Yeah, so

1179
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: it's all it ain't number a hundred on me. So

1180
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: it ain't like we can afford this type of ship

1181
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: to happen. Long story short, This motherfucker end up causes

1182
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: so much hav it, you know what I mean. So

1183
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: one of the homies got killed here told on another homie,

1184
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship, it destroyed everything. Well, that's welcome

1185
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: to the neighborhood. Every neighborhood has basically the same h

1186
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: ship going on. It's just a cycle. You go to

1187
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: the hood. You have homies that don't like homies because

1188
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: and think when the cocaine came out, that really turned

1189
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: everybody against each other to stop disliking and trusting each other.

1190
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: So when that happened, now every year you got worship.

1191
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: With worship, it was like going to school. You know,

1192
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: you go to school. When I was going to school,

1193
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: everybody at school was a roet. He left him grade, John, Doug, Lee, Calvin,

1194
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: all of them gone. So now I'm working with cats.

1195
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I ain't really gonna go every

1196
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: year it changes, it changes and the changes. So when

1197
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: you get cats like that, have you ever been to

1198
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: the county jail. When you go to the county jail,

1199
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: when you get homies like that, and in the blood,

1200
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: Montrea went like this, where are you from, hom I'm

1201
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: from Wood to woo Woo. Oh? Is that right? Hey, Rock,

1202
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: you gotta hold me down there? From Wood to woo Whoo.

1203
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: What's his name? Oh? He said his name is on

1204
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 1: Crazy about Bone. Ain't got no ho many name, Crazy

1205
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: bad Boon. You racked the gate. Come down and look

1206
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: at that cat. I don't know this motherfucker. You know

1207
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: what happens to that guy. He's gonna be sitting on

1208
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: the toilet getting his ass whooped with some house shoes.

1209
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna get put in the fourth sack. He's gonna

1210
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: get his ass whooped, and then they're gonna telling me. You

1211
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: You can't go eat the child, because hey, all funked

1212
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: up and you're gonna sit in there claiming something you

1213
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: had no business claiming. And don't nobody know you. Now,

1214
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you a whole bunch of stories. And

1215
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of predators out there that no and

1216
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: nigga's that went to the penitentiary and started from that game,

1217
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: mind you, from that walking that line. Just on the

1218
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: main line. Man, it ain't it ain't for the average cat.

1219
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: It ain't for the average cat. Those cats, uh, they

1220
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: they eat you up. But at the end of the day,

1221
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: at some point the respect and the rules went away.

1222
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: And that's when and that's why this game banging, it's

1223
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: it just diminished. It's gone. And now you haven't you know,

1224
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,959
Speaker 1: the youngsters don't respect the o gs. Where the ogs

1225
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: can sit here and talk to you and tell you, boy,

1226
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: if you go to Chino, you go to Chino East,

1227
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: you go to Chino West, you better not somebody to

1228
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: funk out. Don't sit there, don't don't let them take

1229
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: you over there. This yard ain't for you or or

1230
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: you don't have the discipline, the discipline and all that

1231
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: ship is gone. So what is the neighborhood with no discipline,

1232
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: no structure, and no respect, no one of the things

1233
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: that Glass has mentioned. This guy did not grow up

1234
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: on hundred seventeen. And I think every hood is gone

1235
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: through this, because when I was young, everyone in that

1236
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: neighborhood grew up there, went either elementary or at least

1237
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: middle school, junior high for the majority. I want to

1238
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: ask you, James, when when did you first realize a

1239
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: dude from my parule that didn't didn't grow up over here.

1240
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: I will tell you were going count yeah even category,

1241
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna tell you did he grow up over there?

1242
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: He grew up, he live lived in the This dude

1243
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: did not live on the seven, didn't live near hundred seventeen,

1244
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't live I had never seen this man in my

1245
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: life until he was twenty two. Literally when he came

1246
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: to get put on. But the big homie Gronken, my

1247
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: guy brought it. Okay, okay, So that at this point,

1248
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: now you're in the hood, we gotta figure out what

1249
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: type of catch you is, how you get down. So

1250
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: now we're in this mother vehicle and of your business.

1251
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: You know how you're gonna handle his business if you're

1252
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna start reaching out the window with his wrist twisted

1253
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: sideways and his head on the dashboard. He ain't with

1254
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: the business. If you give a catapistol and for sure

1255
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: you give a catapist. When he opened the door and

1256
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: get out and come to you, he went the business.

1257
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: He ain't worried about running. He ain't worried about being changed.

1258
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: You remember the first time somebody that you didn't know

1259
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: was from over there, Like, it wasn't somebody kid, it

1260
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: was somebody. We had Buster week. And I think every

1261
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: neighborhood and the two thousands has gone through this where

1262
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: I've had people admitted me in an interview saying, oh, yeah,

1263
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up over here. I met one of

1264
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: the homies on the bus one day and we was close,

1265
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: and I just started taking the bus over there and

1266
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: and started kicking it in their hood. And these are

1267
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: people who never grew up over there. Wasn't related to them,

1268
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: but they went into gang bang so bad that they

1269
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: found a way, They found a hood that would accept them.

1270
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, the cold had tattoos from other games,

1271
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: had it on their body. And when we find out

1272
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: when they did that, they had exactly the exactly you know,

1273
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this right now, the day at

1274
01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: fifty something, my age at fifty something, the majority of

1275
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: my my my good cats, my my rider dies that

1276
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: I give anything and my life for it, or crips

1277
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: or crips you know I'm talking about right now today.

1278
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: Even back then, them and all of these cats on

1279
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: street was was like family to us. So this is

1280
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: how we knew not to change, you know what I'm saying.

1281
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: And we didn't talked on this show about running and

1282
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: Billy turnup Seed and all of those cats. Those are

1283
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: still my prayers right now in the duck today, run

1284
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: rest in peace, you know what I'm saying. Craig Teddy

1285
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: and all of them Cash still see them was happening,

1286
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I walked straight through the alley,

1287
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: go through the alley, through the through their little back

1288
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: gate right there with a little houtset and and just

1289
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: sit up under that shade tree on my fucking day.

1290
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: But I ain't in the pivot, so I don't even

1291
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: run go on. So is I see you when I

1292
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: see you type of ship. But when I'm saying this,

1293
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I know a lot of game fangers

1294
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: out there today. Relate to this ship. You know, a

1295
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of the opposite are real, real closer and we'll

1296
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: give you and do for you, help you more than

1297
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: your own people. Well, to be honest, you gotta think right.

1298
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: My career started right. Um. The first person that helped

1299
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: me get in the rap game, right outside of my brother,

1300
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: who is a brand from fruit Town, right, is my

1301
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: boy Tone rest in Peace from Village Town. Right. So

1302
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: Tone looked out for me, took me to the West

1303
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: Side to me folks and Shock Wink from the West Side, right,

1304
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: So they like how I got now because when I

1305
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: went to their hood, I was wrapping my wraps and

1306
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: I didn't take out if I said because the crip,

1307
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: I didn't take it out because I'm like, I'm not

1308
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna take it out once I walk over here, and

1309
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: then later don't have to wrap these raps, and you

1310
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: nigga think I'm not gonna say it. So if it's

1311
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: gonna be something, it's gonna be something while we're here. Now.

1312
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: It's always like that, you know what I mean. It's

1313
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: always like that, and you can't take it out. You

1314
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: can't take off your red hat. I'm gonna use that

1315
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: to the rest of that. You can't you drop. You

1316
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: can't take it off because it's too late. Now, if

1317
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: nig you're gonna take it off, he got you. So

1318
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: I wrapped it and it was love, you know what

1319
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean. They showed me love. They took me to

1320
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,520
Speaker 1: me face and game. So now I'm in the cedars.

1321
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm meeting Dan, I'm meeting uh white boy,

1322
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm meeting a frog, I'm meeting everybody, right, yeah, so

1323
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: everybody knows why I'm at this point. So these are

1324
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: more power rules that's helping me. Right. So they put

1325
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: me in position to get a record deal, right, So

1326
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: fucking with him every day, shout out to big Face

1327
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: looking out for me, putting me on g ride. They

1328
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: take me to the West Side. Now they're doing all

1329
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: of the stuff with the West Side. So now I'm

1330
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: meeting all of their homes. This is how my career

1331
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,440
Speaker 1: has went. It has literally been bloods and power rules

1332
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: helping me. When I got my record deal, I got

1333
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: my record deal with mac Tin from South Side, right,

1334
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: so but mind you my brother, right, So my whole

1335
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: career has been blood or pop rules helping me. That's

1336
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: how it always has been. That two people to be

1337
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: able to because this gang bang and ship, it's not

1338
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: as powerful as we get. It's not as proberful as

1339
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: it used to be. And and I've gained a lot

1340
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: of my friendship and a lot of guys that I

1341
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: work with that are still my friend right now today

1342
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: from the way it used to be. Back then, you

1343
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: had structure. Back then, you have family members that dealt

1344
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: with you know the other side. None of that mattered,

1345
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That wasn't even a discussion.

1346
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: I just stole cars with these cats. You know what

1347
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It went to jail with these cats. It's

1348
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: totally different what you have today. You don't have these

1349
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: young cats out here and don't respect nothing that that

1350
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: even sound like. O G. You know what I'm saying.

1351
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: And some of the some of the problems is some

1352
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: of the O G s ain't don't look rapped the

1353
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: boat like they should or or got it like they

1354
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: should have had it, should have it, So they don't

1355
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: have respect for you if you look like you ain't ship.

1356
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: But the ones that got the nice cards and got

1357
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: the reason and the girls, that's the O G. What's up?

1358
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: O G? I want to be just like that, you

1359
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So yeah, now I'm stereotyping ship

1360
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: because if you ain't ship and you walk in and

1361
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: you can still be swollen and just walking through the hood,

1362
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: you ain't the big homie no more. You ain't the

1363
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: o G. If these kids just respect what they see,

1364
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: I supposed to stop listening to the ship. You're here

1365
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: happy to cats that that I knew, you know it

1366
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: was was smoking cocaine and going to prison, back and

1367
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: forth to prison for violations. I didn't like that because

1368
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: here we are out here putting their work, doing our things,

1369
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: living this life, and you're sitting in the motherfucking jail. Sell.

1370
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 1: Then you come home and then you get the good treatment.

1371
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: What's up, big homie? What's up here? I got just

1372
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: for you? And then you went back in the same cycle.

1373
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: So the ship that you have now, it is totally

1374
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: different than seventy nine. Let me ask you a better question.

1375
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: I know you're supposed to be talking to me. They

1376
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: may ask you both of y'alls from around the way, right,

1377
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: my people, Olita, she's my like my auntie has stayed

1378
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: on Panis forever. Right when did was the was lots

1379
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: in the mob ever together. Yeah, it was always Loti

1380
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: Park mob before. You didn't see a breakup, you just

1381
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: seen mothers. Just it's just not really, you didn't Hi,

1382
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: nobody lost their lives behind the split. Everybody on the outside.

1383
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: The split was early on, in the early seven so

1384
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 1: it's just that. Yeah, So everybody that was on outside

1385
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: was just you didn't get You didn't get Loutis Park,

1386
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: Loutis Park, because that's all it was. Right now. If

1387
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: I go to prison, right now, I'm going straight Louis Park.

1388
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how I was always bad. Everybody represented

1389
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: Loudis Park, Ludus Park was coming is the mother is

1390
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: the its home as far as so for everybody. So

1391
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: what happened was is you didn't you didn't get this

1392
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: drag out ward and you can't start shooting each other

1393
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: and only just other bullish it. What you had was

1394
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: like on our side of the town, everybody was just

1395
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: it was on the hunt and we were just those

1396
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: guys were doing anything and pretty much north north of Rose,

1397
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: but I didn't south of But I always so growing

1398
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: up right, you always thought of it as Loutis Park, MA,

1399
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: But I never realized when to the point to where,

1400
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: like I said, if I go check out with term,

1401
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: if I go HOLLI that like I said, when when

1402
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: z BO was a lot of different people. That only

1403
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: difference of it is now is because they put these

1404
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: boundaries on this before you before way before that bush.

1405
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: Now is because you got the mob and lotus park

1406
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: Warren or beefing with each other whatever. Down is different now,

1407
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: that's totally different down down. If those guys on in

1408
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: the hood, like the little homies, they're going to prison

1409
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: and all this, they're straight and ob you know what

1410
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because if if you wasn't taught or or

1411
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: just seeing and learn what you saw and move that way,

1412
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 1: then you'll never understand what the funk you're representing or

1413
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: what you're doing. We understood that ship, and you know

1414
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: when these cats was doing drive bys, I was like,

1415
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: this is why the funk everybody keep getting cooked because

1416
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: the police is looking for that car and speeding and

1417
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,919
Speaker 1: burning rubber and ship. Okay, let's do it tonight. Tonight.

1418
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: We're just gonna take our time and just drive pop

1419
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: and just driving away police. Ride right back to June,

1420
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: June June, and you're back in the hood. So, like

1421
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: I said, man, it's totally different from what it is now.

1422
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: You shouldn't even say the hood because you got If

1423
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: you got two hundred homies in the hood, you got

1424
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: thirty three clicks. You got niggas, and each each click

1425
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be ready to take this nig and

1426
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: take this nigga. And this is from the same hood ship.

1427
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Back in the days killing

1428
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: homies and all of this other ship was just you

1429
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: might have this cat killed this cat over abroad or whatever.

1430
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: Now you got homies killing homies and setting them up

1431
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: because he got the dope and he got this and

1432
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: he got that, and I wanted I just didn't know

1433
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: how to go get it. So I'm gonna try to

1434
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: get it the easy way. I'm gonna try to rib

1435
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: his ass, you know what I'm saying. And these is

1436
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: cats that you broke bread with. Mama, No mama exactly,

1437
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: You're just sending my how I spend the night you

1438
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: didn't show with here. Now you're gonna kill me. This

1439
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: is what you got today. There's no respect, there's no

1440
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: loyalty whatsoever. You still got some cash that this is

1441
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: my fam bam from day one, So I just like,

1442
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: that is it all because some people got money and

1443
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: some people broke? Would you would it be fair to say,

1444
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: like when they brought in the economics of like, but

1445
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: when the cocaine came, Yeah, it changed everybody mind. Mats

1446
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: Ron was my riter, dot rider, dot nigger. And when

1447
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: as soon as they fucking sat came and I sent

1448
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: it and and it was quick to sell and people

1449
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 1: was minded. Ship man. I left him in the garage

1450
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 1: and I bounced. I was doing my fucking thing. But

1451
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: then I just like sit down, like am I left

1452
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: the homie. I felt sucked up. And right now in

1453
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: the day. I tell mats Ron every day from when

1454
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: I when I realized that I I chose to sell

1455
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: cocaine over him my my friendship. I tell him every day.

1456
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: I apologize to him every time I talked to him,

1457
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: because that was that was and still is one of

1458
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: my bestest friends. He didn't stop me from doing a

1459
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: lot of ship that that I would have regretted the

1460
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: next day. And that's a that's a true friend because

1461
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: he was on the same motherfucking pages as I was.

1462
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: But we ain't gonna go out on the stupid ship.

1463
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: And this is when I had to understand. Okay, but

1464
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: I left him in the in the in the dust

1465
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: for the cocaine. So when the cocaine came, everybody got

1466
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: the motheruckers started going to the warty mother fucker's started

1467
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: going to to to fucking Denver. Now this I'm making

1468
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: my money, Fuck you, Nickas. So when some cats came

1469
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: back and and had this money, was getting low riders

1470
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: and all this other ship, You're right and that I

1471
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: was looking at you like this and they was supposed

1472
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: enough waiting for you to walk in the house and

1473
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: had to had your girl at that point. I mean

1474
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: you had some you you got some shysty cats out there.

1475
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 1: If you if you start being nice to him, you

1476
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: better stay nice to him because when you stop it,

1477
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 1: that's when they're gonna try to end as you something

1478
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: you ever took some dopebot somebody like go to jail

1479
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: and go home? No as a cop. I was really Look,

1480
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: they didn't get me a bad because I would have

1481
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: been taking a r you know. Just anybody ever tried

1482
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: to bribe huh, anybody ever tried to bribe you? Bribe me? No,

1483
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: like to stop him going to jail. No, not not

1484
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: not no bride, But I mean because I think it's

1485
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: his thing. I think it's the thing with people say like, man,

1486
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: he might be a dirty police officer, and I'm like,

1487
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I wasn't you would have never

1488
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: quit your job. Well, I got hurt and I got

1489
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: a medical retirement because I messed up myself in an accident.

1490
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: And then I had the death row stuff and the

1491
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: l Rake theater that happened and all of that, some

1492
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: things that I wished I would have never done, and

1493
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: I had a different path, but I didn't get I

1494
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: didn't consider myself dirty or doing anything illegal, even when

1495
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: I you know, everybody know I've been arrested and stuff

1496
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: like that for for sales and marijuana. Um, it's still hard.

1497
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to swallow and and admit

1498
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: now and to say that I was dirty doing that

1499
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: because I started off in dispensaries, which is legal. You

1500
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: so the whole we think is so legal. And and

1501
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: then guys from a different area that I grew up with,

1502
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: I didn't deal. Now. One dude and from the mob

1503
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: area that I grew up with knew I was in

1504
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: the game. I was dealing and with Grace Street does

1505
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: and I did. That just becomes them coming in the

1506
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: dispensary and the connection with with what guys in the um,

1507
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, the dispensary and stuff like that, and it

1508
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: just grew and grew and grew to the point where

1509
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: they start standing across the state lines. May attached you

1510
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: to it, and then I got attached to it. So

1511
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm still like one of those like that's the most

1512
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: part of it is st to walk around with six

1513
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: pounds of marijuana on me? So why didn't you? I

1514
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: mean and not this signish question. Do you think that

1515
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: degreed took you across state line? Uh? The more money? Yeah,

1516
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:31,879
Speaker 1: that but mainly because California not really are the cities

1517
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: not even the state of California. The city's not having

1518
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: any rules in place. I had a bunch of dispensaries

1519
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: they weren't mind individually I was connected to. And each

1520
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: monthy you come and one getting shut down, they shut

1521
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: them down. They shut them down. I ever really taking

1522
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: nobody more. Hey, land lord, stop written to him taking

1523
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: away if if you continue to rent to them, So

1524
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 1: now you got all of this product he got guys

1525
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: that pretty much been eating off you, coming to you

1526
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, what youll take this ship out here

1527
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: and triple it up. I wouldn't even really tripping it up.

1528
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 1: I was just giving it to them at at at

1529
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: California rates. Oh so you didn't get caught driving like that.

1530
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: Somebody else was taking phones and and and then their

1531
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: transactions because now I need to get the money back.

1532
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: Police officer, you do not use your regular phone. And

1533
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't ready. It wasn't ready. It was everybody knowing

1534
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: who Up was. And then they figured out who UK was. Yeah,

1535
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: I read that right, a k uncle, that's some crazy

1536
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: punk as we I'll give you a pass on that

1537
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: one man, just like at least I we're gonna go

1538
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: down and go down for at least ain't gonna be

1539
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: gone for that. He even went down, I couldn't. I

1540
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: couldn't even look my people in their face knowing if

1541
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: I was doing something else. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1542
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: That wasn't so it's funny, right, So I grew up.

1543
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: Most people don't notice. I grew up in watts and

1544
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: in competent. My mom had a house in the wrestling forms.

1545
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Pops lived on on the seventeenth. So I've been back

1546
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: and forth my whole life. So your pops, like, you know,

1547
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: you had a real standard reputation and he wasn't just

1548
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just ruin your life, like he gave

1549
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: people chance and he was that was the thing. And

1550
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: thence for for me to mess up his name like that.

1551
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: Getting garden was used a fucking checking account because I

1552
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: kept getting my accounts closed, you know, because the banks

1553
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: they keep saying so many cash transactions going into your accounts.

1554
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: They charge you for that. Man, I don't think most

1555
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: people noticed. But when you bring murch money back from

1556
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: the shows and tour, they charge you. If you bring

1557
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: cash into the bank, so much cash they charged even

1558
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: if you can show you just put in your shape

1559
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: at home. How do you get it? Because you don't

1560
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: really trust niggers out there, you don't really know him,

1561
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and all of that, they ain't driving it back. I mean,

1562
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: the game is that another it's it's money orders. It's

1563
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: so many different ways that to do it. But then

1564
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: you got Niggs on the other end. I saw those deposits,

1565
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 1: none of them were over ten thousand. Yeah, that's smart.

1566
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: You can't have cannot well you get reporter. You can,

1567
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: they just have to report. All right, glasses before we

1568
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: wrap up, just tell us where this video is taking

1569
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: your career and what else you got going on that

1570
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: we can expect from you. Shit, I don't know. Are

1571
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you happy where this video is taking you? Um? Because

1572
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: we talked about that. What's next? You gotta play, you

1573
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: gotta play. I want to know if any major, if

1574
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: any uh yeah, was off, then it's but it's not.

1575
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: Wasn't it was. People don't want to say, they don't

1576
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: want to admit it work. But you know, it's funny.

1577
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: It ain't even about it that on the line it worked.

1578
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 1: What's funny is it's not even about if it works.

1579
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: All I cared about was it good when you watched it?

1580
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Did you feel well? You can go to sleep thinking

1581
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: like that, But let me tell you for real, for

1582
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: real reality is the ship is what it is now.

1583
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't sunk into everybody, So you move on from

1584
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: that and do what you gotta do. I'd be a

1585
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: co bs if I tell you otherwise, So I wouldn't

1586
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: tell you don't get your money because everybody out here

1587
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: is getting their money some kind of way. So if

1588
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: that made it work, for you, then you roll with it,

1589
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: get your money, But it don't have nothing to do

1590
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: with your integrity and all that the ship At the

1591
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: end of the day, who wouldn't have took the shot?

1592
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: Plus you can't predict what kind of deals were gonna

1593
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: come your way as a result. I'm not taking the

1594
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 1: record deals. My thing is what I'm on, like what

1595
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm on some ship. Like my goal for

1596
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: this is all said none the Catholic Church will be

1597
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 1: protesting my ship. So how you get paid? How do

1598
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: you get paid and keep it going if you ain't

1599
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: trying to do a record that they have other whites.

1600
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: So we're in a different time right where you know

1601
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like the song, the video itself made

1602
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty dollars already, the song makes so much money from

1603
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: theople always different than YouTube, So right, vivo is a

1604
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: different current, Like it's more it's a rate, right ast

1605
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: a different rate. Um, you can make money, Like I mean,

1606
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I was glasses malone before I put out

1607
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: the song. So I was charging people three or four

1608
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: thousand for a verse or fourt thousands for show regardless, Um,

1609
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: that ain't really changed. You know what I'm saying they

1610
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: don't bigger right now, no, because it ain't really that

1611
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: kind of so that it's not that kind of song.

1612
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: It's more or less people know that you know, you're

1613
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: so honestly, like, what's crazy is is not really what

1614
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought for a while, I was like, man,

1615
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: people gonna chip off this, but I'm gonna put it

1616
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 1: out because I know it's real and I know it's good.

1617
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Well fucked me up is how many people realize how

1618
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: good I am at storytelling them. That's the thing that

1619
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: became more important. I never got credit. Most people didn't

1620
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: know that I was good at what I did, you

1621
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, people just didn't matter. So you

1622
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: gotta take risk and gamble right for people to see

1623
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 1: that you're good at your craft. That's the thing that

1624
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: mattered to me. It's you got the weird person that's like,

1625
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: oh man, he don't like Tupac And I don't really

1626
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: pay that no attention because it's just silly. But what

1627
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 1: I do focus on and when people say, like, yo,

1628
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 1: I really slept on how good you are at this

1629
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: ship and it's not. And that's why I need you

1630
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: to answer right now because it's a lot and and

1631
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 1: and I go back and forth with the age brackets.

1632
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: But two people songs that you got that were your

1633
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: good hits. Man. I had certified with a con that

1634
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: was a top fifty record, right. I had Hays with

1635
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: a little wine and stunning, Right, that was big. I

1636
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: did like three hundred thousands on that. I had Sun

1637
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: Come Up. I had three number ones on West Coast Radio.

1638
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: I had a song in the top fifty. I just

1639
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: had that good about four years ago. Um, I had

1640
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: it did decent, It wasn't it didn't performance great. It

1641
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: was more or less a field. I was more proud

1642
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: of it because I produced that with the hummies. So

1643
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: making music meant something more than me. Like the more

1644
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I get into older music, I want to make music

1645
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: like like the dramatics, So I want to I make

1646
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: music so like it ain't just the rapping. It's more

1647
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: like all right, putting together a record, playing the based

1648
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: on it myself. Have you ever thought about, just like

1649
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: you just did this Tupac video and this is this

1650
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: is a cool as concept, chilling the gang story the

1651
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: way you really see it and putting it out there

1652
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: to where it really is a lot of people. You've

1653
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: got millions and millions of game bangers living in all

1654
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: different type of ways, that been through all different types

1655
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: of situations. You ever just thought about focusing on the

1656
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: way gang members live and just just doing that story.

1657
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: That can be a rap, that could be a many,

1658
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: that could be a movie, that could be a any

1659
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: It could be a documentary. Is man like I've made

1660
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: what kills me about this? Right? But sifically that's a

1661
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: good idea too. What kills me about this specifically is

1662
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: I've made this damn song three or four times. I

1663
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: have a song called car Wastse right that talk about

1664
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: that's telling people that's trying to be in gangs like

1665
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up being a car watse. I'm from

1666
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: a land world. Man's life is worthless. Every coner in

1667
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: my hood got a church or churches, folk projects where

1668
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: little kids play shirtless and shoeless and being tootless. Get

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01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: your askmur quick. Even merchants is strapped inside their businesses.

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01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: School called parents every day about the tendencies, but mama

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01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: stuck because her son ain't interested in paper. Let's the

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01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: paper gotta flick of Mr Benjamin Franklin Hankies hanging down

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01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: from my bridges, homies, live life, to give money, cars

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01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: and bitches. Oh can't forget Lacia, rivals up with stitches,

1675
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 1: appetite for destruction. It tastes so delicious, it's vicious. Back

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01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: and forth we go where the head of Faye turned

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01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: into a funeral that might take a month if his

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01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: family can't afford it. So this, the car Wash roll Through,

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01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: comes supported like I've been making gangster music and not

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01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: like not like dogs in them. It ain't party. My

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01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: ship is the funked up part because I lost all

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01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: my friends, all the niggas I grew with, niggas from

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01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: around y'allwegh whether it's Drew Zabo, my nigga, Mikey Rule,

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01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: locked up doing life, I really lost friends. So all

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01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: of my music talks about the pain. Even this song itself,

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01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: too Parks I talks about the pain, the agony of

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01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: how it is to be a part of this. Every song,

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01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I have very few songs that celebrate this. It's never

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01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: privul it's never like oh, I'm the man. It's always like,

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01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: damn man, I'm trapping this ship and I'm stuck. Well,

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01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: we ain't heard a song like that that really puts

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01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: it out there and tell the story. Gangsterling was the

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01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: last song I've heard, the only thing that I heard

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: that's talking about the homie, and just really put it

1695
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: out there where when you go to a funeral you

1696
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: got at least nine motherfucker's playing that song. It's hard

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01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: to make it because, like I said, man, people just

1698
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, they box the truth out. You know, they

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: wanted from people that you got, certain people that make

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01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 1: it look better, certain people like if you listen to

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01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: No Disrespect, But if you listen to a watch the song,

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01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: it's's it looks fun, it seems interesting. Man. We got stories.

1703
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 1: We can put it together that I was gonna ask.

1704
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: So hey, let's all let's continue. That's next week. Uh yeah,

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01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: let's do it. You got a problem with no, I

1706
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: can't make the decision, and let's just do on topics,

1707
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: not just talking about him. All right, I'm gonna wrap

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01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 1: this up, glasses. Thanks for coming through. Really appreciate you, man.

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01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be. Go out there. Watch

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01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: Tupac Must Do. It's on YouTube. Yeah, just google it

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01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: Tupac Must Die. And uh that that'll wrap up another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Gangster Chronicles. Thank you for everyone that's

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01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:27,839
Speaker 1: listening on Spotify on iTunes. Please send us your comments, questions, ratings,

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01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: and reviews. We appreciate it. And also, don't forget about

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Speaker 1: our live show on September. We'll be disclosing the location

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01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: real soon, so don't forget about that. September. Will be

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Speaker 1: giving you a double show that day on Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: that's it. We out. This has been a digital show

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Speaker 1: much network production.