Speaker 1: This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or
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Speaker 1: buck Sexton shell begins. Remember now, welcome to the bucks
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. My name is Raheem Kassam, filling in four
Speaker 1: bucks Sexton today. We're very glad to have you here
Speaker 1: with us. There's a lot to talk about over the
Speaker 1: next few hours. We've got some great guests on the
Speaker 1: show for you today. But in case you don't know me,
Speaker 1: by wait, by means of introduction, um. I was the
Speaker 1: former London editor for bright butt dot com, former chief
Speaker 1: advisor to Nigel Farage or as you might know him,
Speaker 1: Mr Brexit, and I also dot around here and there
Speaker 1: with the Claremont Institute, the Gatestone Institute, the Middle East Forum.
Speaker 1: You can find my work online at Raheem Kassam on
Speaker 1: Twitter and so on and so forth. But enough about me.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the fact that you have
Speaker 1: just four days to go until some of the most
Speaker 1: important elections these United States States have faced in a
Speaker 1: very very long time. You know, the stakes are not
Speaker 1: just high because I say so, or because the President
Speaker 1: of the United States says so, or because Maxine Waters
Speaker 1: or Oprah say so. The stakes are high because the
Speaker 1: full force of the political, cultural, media, and financial elite
Speaker 1: is being leveraged right now, the full might of the swamp,
Speaker 1: the full might of Hollywood, the full might of the
Speaker 1: fake news industrial complex, the full might of foreign money
Speaker 1: and power invested interests who have been reeling ever since
Speaker 1: the early hours of November nine, two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: The stakes are high because there's a migrant invasion careering
Speaker 1: towards the US Southern Board and the left wants to
Speaker 1: talk about Obamacare. The stakes are high because impeachment is
Speaker 1: the word on the lip on the tips sorry of
Speaker 1: every Democrats tongue, though they didn't utter it just yet
Speaker 1: for fear of alienating independent, minded or swing voters. The
Speaker 1: stakes are high because this president's agenda, arguably one of
Speaker 1: the most sort of radical, rip roaring effective platforms in decades,
Speaker 1: rests on whether or not Tuesday, the deplorable strike another
Speaker 1: dagger into the heart of the establishment. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: grateful and honored that in these last few days before
Speaker 1: the midterm elections, Buck Sexton his team saw fit to
Speaker 1: let me take the reins over for the next few hours,
Speaker 1: and I employ you to listen closely to some of
Speaker 1: the arguments and guests that will be having over the
Speaker 1: course of this show. And I think it behooves all
Speaker 1: of us who believe in in Western tradition and culture
Speaker 1: and the founding principles of the United States, not just
Speaker 1: to winbibe of such knowledge, but also, especially this weekend,
Speaker 1: to spread it idly. You know, a citizen, as conceived
Speaker 1: in ancient Greece was was somebody who saw the risks
Speaker 1: of their lack of participation being so great that they
Speaker 1: might become serfs or slaves as a result of their complacency.
Speaker 1: And that remains true today. And what say you to
Speaker 1: a voice from another nation mine speaking these words to
Speaker 1: you as you gear up to make that almighty important
Speaker 1: choice on Tuesday. I mean, I'll tell you why it
Speaker 1: means something to me the nation I was born and
Speaker 1: raised in the United Kingdom. I mean, we had a
Speaker 1: similarly extraordinary year into thousand and sixteen. We too, first
Speaker 1: even delta hammer blow to the political establishment in the
Speaker 1: form of Brexit on on June the twenty, two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen. And I'll never forget this number, say, seventeen million,
Speaker 1: four hundred and ten thousand, seven hundred and forty two
Speaker 1: people voted to leave the supernational governing institutions of the
Speaker 1: European Union and claim our sovereignty and our border controls
Speaker 1: and our birthrights back. You know, despite a long and
Speaker 1: rich history as both a global governing empire and a
Speaker 1: strong independent nation, we Brits ended up this last forty
Speaker 1: years in trapped in a political union where our laws
Speaker 1: and our regulations and our sovereign decisions were taken in
Speaker 1: a foreign capital by unelected bureaucrats. When thinking back on
Speaker 1: the election here in the United States, I often remarked
Speaker 1: that it was through divine providence and the hard work
Speaker 1: and belief of so many ordinary Americans that you too
Speaker 1: did not get dragged into a miasma like the European Union.
Speaker 1: There was, and there still remains a massive chance of
Speaker 1: this happening. The Transpacific Partnership Comic Alliance. Remember it was
Speaker 1: heralded by Hillary Clinton as the gold standard of trade deals. Well,
Speaker 1: that was actually modeled on the European Union, with its
Speaker 1: commissars and commissioners. It's bureaucrats and buffoonish benefactors of the
Speaker 1: centralization of power, away from the individual, away from the
Speaker 1: demos the people you know. TPPE could have led the
Speaker 1: United States down the dark and dangerous road to serfdom.
Speaker 1: But what happened instead, America rejected the administrative state. President
Speaker 1: Trump even made it part of his plethora of campaign
Speaker 1: slogans drain the swamp for decades and and the centuries
Speaker 1: of erudite and prolific thinkers. President Trump managed to put
Speaker 1: it into those three words, you know, perspective and simplicity,
Speaker 1: the likes of which we need now more than ever
Speaker 1: before in our lifetimes. A return of the revolutionary spirit,
Speaker 1: the birth this nation from my own. I think it's
Speaker 1: also a weekend to dwell on some words that I
Speaker 1: recently re read from another of your presidents, Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1: In eight he said, of those revolutionary scenes in the
Speaker 1: form of a husband, a father, a son, or a brother,
Speaker 1: a living history was to be found in every family,
Speaker 1: a history bearing the indubitable testimonies of its own authenticity,
Speaker 1: in the limbs mangled, in the scars of wounds received
Speaker 1: in the midst of the very scenes related A history
Speaker 1: too that could be read and understood alike by all
Speaker 1: the wise and the ignorant, the learned and the unlearned.
Speaker 1: But those histories are gone. They can be read no
Speaker 1: more forever. They were a fortress of strength. But what
Speaker 1: invading Foeman could never do, the silent artillery of time
Speaker 1: has done the leveling of its walls. It's time to
Speaker 1: fight back against that island artillery. Now we secure freedom
Speaker 1: for another generation. I'm Maraheam Kassa. This is the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show again. We'll have some fantastic guests over the
Speaker 1: course of the program for you, and the first of
Speaker 1: which joining us now is none other than Stephen kay Bannon.
Speaker 1: He is, as you know, the former White House Chief strategist,
Speaker 1: former CEO of the Trump campaign, and I'm delighted now
Speaker 1: to welcome Stephen K. Bann into the show. All right,
Speaker 1: welcome to the buck Sexton Show. My first guest here
Speaker 1: today is Stephen K. Bannon, former senior advisor and campaign
Speaker 1: CEO for President Donald J. Trump. Steve, thanks for joining
Speaker 1: us here today, Raheem. I'm so glad to join you
Speaker 1: in bucks Seston. Trum a huge fan of the show.
Speaker 1: In buck Seston, I watched one of the HILP listen
Speaker 1: the show. But you know, most importantly, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: track you down. You know, were since with me? Trumpet
Speaker 1: War in today's Gateway Punish got that lead stories has
Speaker 1: been seen over seven million times. I thought you did
Speaker 1: camp to Hollywood. I couldn't tranking now. Well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna open with a question about Trumpet War, but full disclosure,
Speaker 1: I am in the movie made by Stephen cabin and
Speaker 1: called Trumpet War. We're in the movie. You cork uh,
Speaker 1: Corey Rainard Jackson. The stars of the movie that you're in,
Speaker 1: I guess Joe Conta uh and others kind of steel,
Speaker 1: the kind of steel that you're one of the stars
Speaker 1: of it. Don't don't modest, Just don't don't be modest.
Speaker 1: So well, thank you very much. So I saw that
Speaker 1: story about how many millions of people that that movie reached.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit for the audience who hasn't
Speaker 1: maybe seen it yet or has it sort of in
Speaker 1: there to do list. Tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: the movie, how you got to, you know, conceptualizing it,
Speaker 1: and what impact you think has had on this on
Speaker 1: this midterm election race. Well, look, you know, we're start
Speaker 1: of conceiving the thing that nine months ago at the
Speaker 1: beginning of year, thinking that in the closing days in September, October, November,
Speaker 1: in the run up to the mid term, because it's
Speaker 1: really going to be about President Trump, is nobody about
Speaker 1: his agenda. It's essentially a referendum on Trump. And so
Speaker 1: we made a film really to galvanize the Trump based
Speaker 1: This is not really a conversion film, although we've got
Speaker 1: tons of anecdotal information of people showing it to their
Speaker 1: family and converting over to support President Trump. It was
Speaker 1: really made as a film like I made in the
Speaker 1: Tea Party year of two thousand ten, to motivate people
Speaker 1: to get out to vote, to walk precincts. I felt
Speaker 1: early on we lacked the burgenescing at the grassroots level,
Speaker 1: that that the left hand I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: urgency and energy in the Times Up movement, in the
Speaker 1: Resistance and in Tom Styler's next in and I thought
Speaker 1: it was very important to get us to stop leaving
Speaker 1: on the shovel. So, you know, I wrote the script
Speaker 1: structures that I've got a cast with you in the
Speaker 1: court and other you know, just a terrific cast made
Speaker 1: the film. We distributed totally Free Go to Trumpet War
Speaker 1: Dot com I'm gonna just go to the Gateway party.
Speaker 1: I think it's the lead story. Click on. You can
Speaker 1: share it with anybody. Not your ard is our and
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes long. I think it just won the UH.
Speaker 1: I think the Melbourne Film Festival two nights ago we
Speaker 1: can found that one the best documentary. So we're very
Speaker 1: proud of that. Yeah, yeah, I knows so as it's Australia,
Speaker 1: so it's both left and right. It's just not a
Speaker 1: conservative thing. And they told us that we want best Documentary.
Speaker 1: Of course I went best Director, but I don't need
Speaker 1: to mention. Um, does that mean you have to go
Speaker 1: to a stradiot to collected award? Now? No, Unfortunately they
Speaker 1: already had the award I think I think it was
Speaker 1: in New Mexico too at that time, because I've been
Speaker 1: going around the country to these tough congressional districts and
Speaker 1: talking about the Trump program and why it's important. What
Speaker 1: we need the grass roots to focus on is that
Speaker 1: this is all about President Trump. That you may be
Speaker 1: voted for a rhino, maybe maybe accomplishment you're not totally
Speaker 1: excited about. It doesn't matter. You gotta get out there,
Speaker 1: You've gotta ring more balls. You've gotta work from banks.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to drag people to the polls because
Speaker 1: when he I think, coming down to the closing days,
Speaker 1: this thing's gonna be you know, at the wire somebody
Speaker 1: that witness. Well, this is what I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about. You have been traveling around the country an
Speaker 1: awful lot over the last couple of months. But where
Speaker 1: do you think right now? I mean we're just four
Speaker 1: days out at this point in time from the from
Speaker 1: the mid term elections. Um, where do you think the
Speaker 1: you know, the key seats are. What have you seen
Speaker 1: out there? And and and you know what should people
Speaker 1: bearing in mind when they go to the ballot box
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Well, the battot bix. I think you've got
Speaker 1: to focus on the Trump program because we lose the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives, They're going to not just immediately get
Speaker 1: impeachment hearing, who are They're actually gonna have I think
Speaker 1: fifty investigations and really grind the Trump agenda to a hold.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's all on the line here. I
Speaker 1: think the Senate, look, I think we had Nomatam before
Speaker 1: the pipe bombing incident and before this horrible massacre in
Speaker 1: tragedy in Pittsburgh at the synagogue. I thought we had
Speaker 1: the momentum it both in the Senate and the House.
Speaker 1: I still think the Senate looks safe and maybe pick
Speaker 1: up a couple of two seats, um maybe even three.
Speaker 1: I think the House is a real dog fight. I
Speaker 1: don't think you don't see a blue wave, but I
Speaker 1: could see losing five seven seats. But I think we're
Speaker 1: the Democrats are vulnerable. I don't think they focused on
Speaker 1: these seats that we could flip. Remember when him when
Speaker 1: I first left the White House, you were around when
Speaker 1: I had the meetings with some of the Republican Nostalgian guys.
Speaker 1: At the time, they were talking about at eight seat
Speaker 1: potential loss in the House of Representative. That was in
Speaker 1: September of two thousand and seventeen. He saw that come
Speaker 1: down the sixty to fifty I was on handity with
Speaker 1: part days ago. I think it's at thirty or forty.
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere out around twenty five. But I
Speaker 1: do think they're they're pickups. And I think some of
Speaker 1: these key destis are you know. I think it's Mina Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: I think it's fourteens are reached a redistrict to one,
Speaker 1: but the ones in Minnesota, I think it's Minnesota won
Speaker 1: seven and eight. Seven just came into play last night, Uh, Nevada,
Speaker 1: Nevada three and four, the Danny Tarkinian nights out there
Speaker 1: and in the Hardy race, I think looked very competitive
Speaker 1: Arizona one, Wendy Rogers, I think, so it looks very competitive.
Speaker 1: So you've got I think you've got, you know, four
Speaker 1: or five potential pick potential pickups and maybe you know Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: I thinks a lot, maybe you want or two uh
Speaker 1: after that, and I think that can make I think
Speaker 1: these pickups can actually make the difference to hold the house.
Speaker 1: Right now, I think it's gonna be I think to
Speaker 1: change every day. The opposition is going in full force,
Speaker 1: the raising tons of money, a lot of it small
Speaker 1: donor uh. And you never know how something like a
Speaker 1: working a cruise are gonna play out in Texas that
Speaker 1: will have a huge impact on Culverson and sessions and
Speaker 1: uh internally hurt. So there's things in play. I think
Speaker 1: for your audience and for buck sexes, adent just half
Speaker 1: to engage. It's not too late to go in and
Speaker 1: make phone calls. At a phone bank. It's not too
Speaker 1: late to hit with a donation, but it most importantly,
Speaker 1: it's not too late to get all your friends, all
Speaker 1: your colleagues, everybody you know out to vote if you
Speaker 1: want to support the Trump agenda. To me, it's very
Speaker 1: clear you just gotta get people out to vote. We're
Speaker 1: speaking with Stephen cabot In, the former White House Chief
Speaker 1: strategist and Trump campaign CEO Steve so this weekend you're saying,
Speaker 1: is not the time to be catching up with your
Speaker 1: binge watching Netflix. You know, I think it's the left
Speaker 1: is you know, the left got something about President Trump
Speaker 1: that it took uh, the Republicans now a while to
Speaker 1: catch up. But they understand he's a transformative president in
Speaker 1: a historic figure. You know, he's in their head like
Speaker 1: a cough Gass novel. And the reasons they know that
Speaker 1: Trump is gonna be in their personal lives twenty and
Speaker 1: thirty years from now. And it's just not the federal
Speaker 1: Judiciary's just not. It's not these hunted forty subtle judges
Speaker 1: and some it's much deeper than that. It's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Economic nationalism. That's what he's doing. American first nationalist critic.
Speaker 1: Most importantly, I think for the left, it's what he's
Speaker 1: going to deconstruction administrative state, which is really taking this
Speaker 1: a lot levias in the park, you know, brick by brick,
Speaker 1: and I think they understand that's gonna have huge implications.
Speaker 1: So they understand he's in their lives and they want
Speaker 1: him out, and that's why they put so much energy
Speaker 1: so much. Look, I disagree that ideology. I admire, uh,
Speaker 1: their grit and their hustle. They have done it like
Speaker 1: the Key Party in two thousand and ten. If they
Speaker 1: do happen to have a winning night on on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: it's because they went out and walk pretty since early.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not too like this is we've got really,
Speaker 1: we've got four days. You've got you Thurday Sunday evening
Speaker 1: at Friday. I mean we get we get time. You
Speaker 1: get time to get out and get time to go
Speaker 1: to a campaign headquarters. There's tons of independent ex finishers
Speaker 1: out there. They're setting up phone banks and people walking
Speaker 1: neighborhoods to know if if you want the back President
Speaker 1: Trump's campaign, you know, binge watching Netflix this weekend is
Speaker 1: not a good news of your time and um and
Speaker 1: we'll be talking to other guests on the over the
Speaker 1: course of the show. Dr Sebastian Gorga will be joining us.
Speaker 1: What we're talking about the Iran sanctions and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth. Just just lastly, Steve, what have you
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about what you're doing right now
Speaker 1: because you're you're you're actually in Toronto, am I right? Uh?
Speaker 1: Prepping for a very big debate. Yeah, month debate and
Speaker 1: nice myself as as David from Uh it's about his
Speaker 1: populism gonna be replaced the liver order as the politics
Speaker 1: of the future. Really honored to be up here that month.
Speaker 1: People are obviously very class. I think it's thirty hundred
Speaker 1: seat auditorium. They told me a day that because have
Speaker 1: sold like fifteen thousand of tickets, so they said, had
Speaker 1: tremendous demand. Obviously a number of people are not excited
Speaker 1: about that, some protesters, but that's their their right and
Speaker 1: I appreciated that out there. Uh. From As, I've known
Speaker 1: David for a long time using my he was in
Speaker 1: Generation zero. Uh, he was a star before You Were Human,
Speaker 1: one of my films. So that at the financial collapse,
Speaker 1: so um, now I don't want to end up where
Speaker 1: David from is. I certainly don't want to end up
Speaker 1: on the other side of a platform against you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's any great job. Tomorrow, I'm in Virginia. We're trying
Speaker 1: to get to North Carolina in Pennsylvania and on Sunday
Speaker 1: and Monday, so we'll be out. I'll be doing you know,
Speaker 1: these small events. What I tried to do was going
Speaker 1: in really pump up grand roots leaders and then maybe
Speaker 1: laying us some other times to screen the film. So
Speaker 1: we're still pulling some stuff together. But if you go
Speaker 1: to our website Trumpet War, or if you go Citizens
Speaker 1: of the American Republic c O a R Core, it's our,
Speaker 1: not some profitors. I'll get the n g O and
Speaker 1: uh it's you. You know, just go there, you'll find
Speaker 1: it all the ways information where we're gonna be. But
Speaker 1: I'll be back in the States late tonight after this
Speaker 1: and back on the campaign trail. Just got back from
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas, uh, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas on
Speaker 1: a swing to see these uh, these tough districts. Look,
Speaker 1: it's all about the Trump based. If the Trump base
Speaker 1: turns out, things are going to be fine. If we
Speaker 1: can't get the base out, then we may suffer when
Speaker 1: may lose the House. And I will just say it,
Speaker 1: that would be terrible for President Trump's agenda. Well, to
Speaker 1: quote a British Member of Parliament, George Galloway, when he
Speaker 1: was speaking about Saddam Maseine, I salute your indefatigability, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for being the film. And hey,
Speaker 1: when he once you tweeted out, however you get to
Speaker 1: see you got all this Twitter fall, put it up
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I have been, I have been. I'll do
Speaker 1: it again. I'll do it again tonight. We want to
Speaker 1: be a ten minute at the end of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and I want to get the fifteen minute by by
Speaker 1: election night. Now, don't know forget that We're gonna put
Speaker 1: forth a big effort. But just go to the Gateway
Speaker 1: Pundit or go to more important to go to Rehee's
Speaker 1: Twitter feat. There you go. That's the that's the that's
Speaker 1: the first and only time Steven's endorsed by Twitter feed. Hey,
Speaker 1: take care, good luck on the show today. Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Stephen K. Bann and former White House Chief strategist and
Speaker 1: Trump campaign CEO, also the former head of my old
Speaker 1: stable brightbart dot com. Stephen k Ban, and thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm
Speaker 1: raheam because I'm filling in for bucks Sexton today. I'm
Speaker 1: pleased to have on the line a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: a former deputy director in the Commerce Department. A trumpet pointee,
Speaker 1: Chris Garcia joins us on the line now, Chris, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. We're a good to be on. Chris.
Speaker 1: You know, there are but four days now until the
Speaker 1: midterm elections, and I suppose there are those in the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party who want people to go into those polling
Speaker 1: booths on Tuesday and talk about either or think about healthcare,
Speaker 1: or think about a migrant caravan, or maybe not think
Speaker 1: about a migrant caravan, depending on you know, how they
Speaker 1: managed to spin it over over the weekend. Um. But
Speaker 1: the big one for me seems to be and from
Speaker 1: all the people I'm talking to, seems to be, well, actually,
Speaker 1: people have money in their pockets again, people have jobs
Speaker 1: where they couldn't have them before. You know, there is
Speaker 1: an economic legacy that is already in place. But two
Speaker 1: years into this administration, how high up the chain do
Speaker 1: you think Economics is going to be on Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: just walk us through a little bit of what you
Speaker 1: think the the you know, the achievements of this administration
Speaker 1: have been so far and perhaps even where it's fallen down,
Speaker 1: if there's anything that you might have done differently, or
Speaker 1: there anything that you know still remains to be done,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a that's a great question about differently
Speaker 1: or White House advisors. The President did one thing that
Speaker 1: was probably the foundation, I'll say, from when we're experiencing
Speaker 1: such robust economic growth. Number One, he deregulated more than
Speaker 1: any previous president had in history, where Putting Obama was
Speaker 1: I think in lenting something like two ordered fifty billion
Speaker 1: dollars new regulations. In his first two years, President Trump
Speaker 1: has cut twenty three billion dollars in regulations. UH. That
Speaker 1: was coupled with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, more
Speaker 1: money in consumers pockets and American workers pockets and American
Speaker 1: businesses operating accounts. That to groom and expand has led
Speaker 1: to a huge, huge, We're at three percent GDP growth
Speaker 1: now on track for three percent GDP growth throughout the year. UH,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be the first time that it
Speaker 1: was ever done since two thousand and five. So the
Speaker 1: president knew what we all know on the supply side
Speaker 1: of economics, all of the three traders and three more marketers, uh,
Speaker 1: know that you have to have a robust economic environment,
Speaker 1: in an environment that's conducive to entrepreneurship and and growth
Speaker 1: and expansion in order to be able to provide for
Speaker 1: the nation's defense, to provide for the social programs that exists.
Speaker 1: So the President came to office into the right thing
Speaker 1: right away, and that's why we're experienced this phenomenal growth.
Speaker 1: Now how that plays to the mid terms, unfortunately, because
Speaker 1: the rhetoric has been so devisive. Uh, you know, there
Speaker 1: there are a variety of distractions that are kept trying
Speaker 1: to take I would say American voters minds off of
Speaker 1: the successes that the president has realized. But that's something
Speaker 1: that we cannot overlook. The economic successes put more money
Speaker 1: in americans pockets, has allowed businesses to grow and expand. Uh.
Speaker 1: And frankly, uh, we will see most more of them
Speaker 1: if we continue to have a Republican Congress. Chris, what
Speaker 1: do you say to the critics of this um this
Speaker 1: admitted stration's trade policy. You know, there are there are
Speaker 1: sort of the Paul Krugman's of the world all the
Speaker 1: way over to the the the hard free market rights
Speaker 1: saying that actually, you know, tariffs and an economic war
Speaker 1: with China is going to cause more problems for people.
Speaker 1: It's going to drive consumer prices up. It's going to
Speaker 1: lock us into this scenario of of of tip fit
Speaker 1: tat over the next ten or fifteen years. Uh. They
Speaker 1: say this country cannot afford it, and and and that
Speaker 1: even if it could, the jobs aren't coming back anyway.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you say to something like that? Well,
Speaker 1: let's break down why the president has slapped tariffs on
Speaker 1: some of our trading partners in the first place. The
Speaker 1: biggest co operate has been China. China since joining, since
Speaker 1: joining the World Trade Organization, and two other than one
Speaker 1: has abused the privilege of being one of the free
Speaker 1: trade partners. And I say free trade in quotations because
Speaker 1: it's been anything but free. China has lied that they've stolen,
Speaker 1: they've cheated, they've manipulated their currency, they've unfairly subsidized industries
Speaker 1: and dumped products like stealing aluminum to make it impossible
Speaker 1: for American consumers to American companies and UH and workers
Speaker 1: to compete UM. The There was recently a study that
Speaker 1: was just released UH concerning the loss of three point
Speaker 1: four million American manufacturing jobs since two thousand and one
Speaker 1: because of these practices that China has has implemented. Now
Speaker 1: the President is saying to China very simply cut this out. UH.
Speaker 1: Actually engage in free trade and reciprocal trade without subsidizing
Speaker 1: and without slapping tarraps on US products being imported to China.
Speaker 1: Otherwise we'll slap tarraups. Now, China has much more to
Speaker 1: lose if they don't comply. They have really no replacement.
Speaker 1: They have no alternative to the robust consumer base, whereas
Speaker 1: the United States has. They we have much UH we're
Speaker 1: working with, first of all, a much greater position of
Speaker 1: strength because of the robust economy. China's economy is on
Speaker 1: the downturn. But we also can diversify our supply chain
Speaker 1: away from China. And I think what President Trump has
Speaker 1: done is twofold number one. He's striking fairer and more
Speaker 1: reciprocal trade agreements. When we saw that with the new
Speaker 1: napative that was struck the U S m c A.
Speaker 1: But Secondly, he's reorienting the supply chain away from China,
Speaker 1: away from South East Asia, and back to North America.
Speaker 1: And that's a huge win for American workers. So anyway,
Speaker 1: you slife that American companies and American workers are now
Speaker 1: more competitive and they'll have frankly, a much uh much
Speaker 1: a better chance to compete fairly and openly on the
Speaker 1: global market thanks to these policies adopted a further than Trump.
Speaker 1: You know, I UM. I attended a book launched by
Speaker 1: by Stephen Moore UM in New York earlier this week,
Speaker 1: and and he told me an interesting anecdote. In fact,
Speaker 1: told the room an interesting anecdote. So I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm preaching any trust in in in relaying this. But
Speaker 1: when when the economic advisory team on the UM on
Speaker 1: the transition first said to him, first said to the
Speaker 1: President elect look or or or reiterated what they've been
Speaker 1: saying throughout the campaign. Look, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: have a competitive corporate tax environment because there are other
Speaker 1: nations out there with corporate rates and we need to
Speaker 1: go down to that as well. And apparently President Trump's
Speaker 1: first reaction was absolutely not I want a fifteen percent
Speaker 1: rate and and you know that I think speak I
Speaker 1: think that it speaks to his instinct Number one, of course,
Speaker 1: it's the art of the deal, right, if you go
Speaker 1: for fifteen, you're gonna get twenty, If you go over
Speaker 1: to twenty, you're gonna get twenty five, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. But it also speaks to his instincts about
Speaker 1: you know, letting that, letting that sort of beast of
Speaker 1: American business, medium small and medium sized business, specifically letting
Speaker 1: it raw. And I don't think that's something that that well,
Speaker 1: certainly something that we haven't seen in Europe for a
Speaker 1: very long time. And it's something that I think, you know,
Speaker 1: America with the Obama you didn't build that mentality hadn't
Speaker 1: seen for a very long time. What do you think
Speaker 1: it does to the psyche of of business owners? And
Speaker 1: what do you think it does to the to the
Speaker 1: morale of the country that you've now got this this
Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, I'm not gonna say roaring
Speaker 1: economy just yet, but you have you know, the wheels
Speaker 1: are in motion. The stock market is you know, broad,
Speaker 1: the broad trend is up. What is what is that
Speaker 1: doing to the country as you see it out there?
Speaker 1: Chris well, no, you make a very good point. It's
Speaker 1: about consumer sentiment, consumer confidence, and business optimism. We're seeing
Speaker 1: all time highs, record highs in both of those measures
Speaker 1: because of President Frankly that now is standing up for
Speaker 1: American workers and consumers and American businesses, you know, the
Speaker 1: war as Larry Cuddler likes his profits, and the war
Speaker 1: on private enterprise and the war on corporations and businesses
Speaker 1: is over, provided that they adopt the America First Agenda,
Speaker 1: which President Trump says, Hey, listen, if you're going to
Speaker 1: be a US company, UM, you've got to pick a side.
Speaker 1: Are you going to be, you know, supporting American workers
Speaker 1: and growing and expanding and scaling and building new factories
Speaker 1: in the United States, or he's gonna you know, build
Speaker 1: overseason in China or or or or Mexico or Canada. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so we saw the President really strike these deals
Speaker 1: with these uh, with these corporations early on that returned
Speaker 1: many of these uh, these plants that had that that
Speaker 1: had vanished over the years because of the tough regulatory environment,
Speaker 1: because of the tough uh you know, tax environment. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now we've got, as I said earlier, manufacturing jobs.
Speaker 1: They're coming back. We've got four point five million jobs
Speaker 1: that are created since the president was elected, and you've
Speaker 1: got I think four hundred fifty thousand manufacturing jobs something
Speaker 1: would like that. So so this is this is a
Speaker 1: real I mean, all you have to do is look
Speaker 1: at the facts. Look at the facts. You can't argue
Speaker 1: with the facts. But that optimism, that business confidence, that
Speaker 1: consumer confidence, you know, that's the real measure of how
Speaker 1: well these policies are working. Um. But frankly, this is
Speaker 1: this is going to come to an end. It's going
Speaker 1: to come to a screeching hall. Uh. If we have
Speaker 1: these from these leftist uh you know, I would even
Speaker 1: say quasi socialists, some are outright socialist. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: democratic candidates that are that are running for office, and
Speaker 1: we get if we get them elected, if we hand
Speaker 1: control of the House of Representatives to Democrats, you can
Speaker 1: count and you can kiss all of this progress. Goodbye,
Speaker 1: Stark stark message there, Chris Gussie. I'm afraid we have
Speaker 1: to leave it there. I could ask you for for
Speaker 1: days and days about you know what it what it
Speaker 1: would pretend, um, if the if the House is lost
Speaker 1: on on Tuesday, But we'll have to leave it there
Speaker 1: for now more another time, former Deputy director in the
Speaker 1: Department of Commerce, Chris Garcia, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: joining us here on the buck Sexton Show. So it's
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Well that was very interesting stuff there from
Speaker 1: Chris Garcia. This is the buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahemkasam
Speaker 1: fan again four Bucks Sexton today. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: all of this. For a group of people, a lot
Speaker 1: of whom are mothers and children, who posed no imminent
Speaker 1: threat to the United States called us an invasion. It
Speaker 1: might be the most pathetic invasion of a country in
Speaker 1: world history, if if this were actually an invasion, But
Speaker 1: of course it's not. Presidents sending troops to the border
Speaker 1: to deal with a caravan that hasn't proven to be violent.
Speaker 1: Stop sending their monsters. They're more mothers than monsters. Don't
Speaker 1: say it. Why don't any of you say that? You know,
Speaker 1: when you listen to that, especially when the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: the establishment media, are referring to the migrant caravans, is
Speaker 1: not an invasion or the worst invasion in history, And
Speaker 1: then you reconcile it with with you know, just a
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of years ago, a couple of
Speaker 1: hundred troops from Russia found their way into into Crimea.
Speaker 1: And remember the world rightly called that an invasion. Well,
Speaker 1: now you have thousands upon thousands of people who are
Speaker 1: going to be amassing at the US southern border in
Speaker 1: the next coup of the days, and that's not an invasion.
Speaker 1: You know. I've done my own digging into this migrant
Speaker 1: caravan as it's called. I mean, it's it's it's not
Speaker 1: a caravan, it's it's a it's a march of a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there with with who are hurling
Speaker 1: rocks at helicopters, who are being arrested in the countries
Speaker 1: that they're going through because of criminal activity. The people
Speaker 1: on the caravan themselves, the people marching towards you a
Speaker 1: southern border, are also reporting mass criminality within their own ranks.
Speaker 1: When local news outlets go and speak to them, and
Speaker 1: when that comes itself up through Central America, when the
Speaker 1: news filters up and it goes through the establishment media filters,
Speaker 1: it comes out as what you've just heard, don't worry
Speaker 1: about these guys. Everything's fine there, mothers, it's all mothers. Listen,
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. Go go online right now. Go
Speaker 1: on Twitter right now and all you need to do.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's on my Twitter feed, just to give
Speaker 1: myself a little plug. Go on my Twitter at Raheem Kassam,
Speaker 1: right and you can see a video that clearly shows
Speaker 1: not just people hurling rocks into crowds and at helicopters,
Speaker 1: but people with molotov cocktails. This is this, These are
Speaker 1: the people we're just supposed to be like, oh, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, come to the southern border. We'll figure it
Speaker 1: out when you get here. That's that's that's all well
Speaker 1: and good. We'll we'll just you know, we'll process all
Speaker 1: of the asylum claims, you know, allow it to just
Speaker 1: happen freely. And what does it do? What would that
Speaker 1: approach do, which is, by the way, the approach that
Speaker 1: everyone is telling us to take, everyone on the left
Speaker 1: and in the political establishment, that's what they're telling the
Speaker 1: President of the United States to do. Let them arrive
Speaker 1: and process their asylum claims. Don't try and dissuade them,
Speaker 1: don't try and identify who they are. Don't try and
Speaker 1: identify criminality or even god forbid, terrorism coming up through
Speaker 1: that southern border. Now just wait, just wait, hold your
Speaker 1: fire wrong. This president has it right. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you as now, I don't call myself this very often
Speaker 1: are European as a European And thank goodness, we are
Speaker 1: leaving the European Union because what happened those years going
Speaker 1: up to you remember the big migrant crisis in Europe.
Speaker 1: You remember in twenty fift when Angela Merkel, who has
Speaker 1: now been beating about beating about the ballot box in Germany,
Speaker 1: when she welcomed two million people into the continent, didn't
Speaker 1: really consult with anyone else, didn't ask, you know, the French,
Speaker 1: or the British, or the Hungarians or the Austrians what
Speaker 1: they thought. No, she said, come one, come all, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. We believe you, we believe your stories.
Speaker 1: And it turned out what It turned out that you
Speaker 1: had hundreds of thousands of people who were not asylum
Speaker 1: seekers or fleeing war or poverty stricken. They were just
Speaker 1: economic migrants. Now, I don't have a problem with economic migration.
Speaker 1: I suspect nobody has a problem with economic migration as
Speaker 1: long as it's legal, as long as it falls within
Speaker 1: the boundaries that are set by the nation's state, which
Speaker 1: has its own borders to control, and has its own
Speaker 1: policies and has its own president, the hands of which
Speaker 1: within lay the whole power to set immigration policy. Correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, I'm not, but that's not what
Speaker 1: Merkel did. And what happened was the first year that
Speaker 1: it started, you know, really started back in twelve, couple
Speaker 1: of thousand people to start with. Then it became tens
Speaker 1: of thousands of people. Then it became hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of people by in the high in the mid to
Speaker 1: high hundreds of thousands and twenty probably, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they lost count. There are there are estimates that go
Speaker 1: from eight hundred thousand all the way up to two million.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that, you know, I'll take
Speaker 1: a conservative estimate, but I won't take a stupidly low estimate.
Speaker 1: There was over there was definitely over one point two
Speaker 1: million people that made their way into Europe. And why
Speaker 1: because they were made to feel like anybody could come,
Speaker 1: that the rule of law was out the window. The
Speaker 1: world all had open borders now. And that's exactly the
Speaker 1: same mantra, it's exactly the same mentality that you're seeing
Speaker 1: that you're hearing from that montage. We just played. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. So take it from me, as somebody
Speaker 1: who has already watched the continent. I come from being
Speaker 1: ravaged by this kind of stupidity. This you know, let's
Speaker 1: all feel really nice about ourselves because there's a baby
Speaker 1: in a picture. You remember they did that during the
Speaker 1: European crisis as well. They put that young boy, Alan
Speaker 1: Curdie died on the beach because of human traffickers, by
Speaker 1: the way, who were making money off that route. They
Speaker 1: put him on the front page of every single newspaper
Speaker 1: to make me and you and everyone else feel bad.
Speaker 1: But what was the real case there? The real case
Speaker 1: there was criminality. The real case there was crossing borders
Speaker 1: when you shouldn't. The real case there was human traffickers
Speaker 1: making cash of human beings. And I dare say, we're
Speaker 1: seeing that again here. We're seeing that in the United States,
Speaker 1: We're seeing that on your southern border. So take it
Speaker 1: from me. I looked into this migrant caravan at length.
Speaker 1: I've looked into who the groups are, where their money
Speaker 1: is coming from. This has been in the works for decades,
Speaker 1: and this weekend you're going to see more and more
Speaker 1: of those pictures and right up until the midterms, You're
Speaker 1: gonna see more and more of those pictures, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna try and make you vote not with your head,
Speaker 1: not even with your heart, but with this globalist semblance
Speaker 1: of owing that you owe the world a living, that
Speaker 1: you owe the world part of you. In the midst
Speaker 1: of all the whining coming from the left. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy these days, right there, chasing people out
Speaker 1: of restaurants, yelling at you in the coffee shop, acting
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Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Kassam filling in for Buck Sexton today as
Speaker 1: he is, I believe interviewing the vice president in Kansas
Speaker 1: much more important job to do for Buck today. But
Speaker 1: he's left He's left you in my capable hands or
Speaker 1: me and your capable hands. Perhaps. Um. We we have
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, and we spend the first
Speaker 1: time we're talking about the midterm elections. But there's there's
Speaker 1: there's other things going on in the world and other
Speaker 1: things that need addressing too. And you know, this president
Speaker 1: isn't stopping with the business of of of running a
Speaker 1: country and with the business of being an international statesman,
Speaker 1: which you know, whether whether they like it or not,
Speaker 1: all of these world leaders actually have to be and
Speaker 1: and and do the job that comes with it. Um.
Speaker 1: And one of those jobs is of course seeing off
Speaker 1: threats to the U s. Homeland and Barack Obama. I
Speaker 1: have to say, I feel like I tread to think
Speaker 1: how you guys would put it, but I feel like
Speaker 1: didn't do a particularly good job of that, especially when
Speaker 1: it came to a little country we call Iran. UM.
Speaker 1: I have a guest on the line now, a good
Speaker 1: friend of mine who was a senior writer at the
Speaker 1: Washington Free Beacon, who's gonna unpack some of this for us,
Speaker 1: because today the Trump administration UM announced that it was
Speaker 1: going to reimpose all the Iran sanctions that were lifted
Speaker 1: by President Obama. Adam Credo joins us on the line
Speaker 1: to discuss Adam, thanks for joining us, my pleasure. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me, Boddy. Hey, Adam, It's it's strange you're
Speaker 1: you're on the you're on the campaign trail and I'm
Speaker 1: in an office in d C. Today as we've switched roles.
Speaker 1: Well here we certainly have. I'm in southern Florida, beautiful
Speaker 1: southern Florida. It's hot and humid. Well, I hope you're
Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying yourself and topping up your hand.
Speaker 1: But I suspect that you're you're bashing away at the
Speaker 1: keyboard most of the time, given the given the frequency
Speaker 1: of the news, and and this is really your beat, right,
Speaker 1: the Iran stuff. I mean, I don't know a better
Speaker 1: reporter out there, ladies and gentlemen on this issue. Um,
Speaker 1: So if you're not following Adam's work, He's going to
Speaker 1: give you chapter and verse on why you should by
Speaker 1: flexing his knowledge. Right now, Adam, what what is going on?
Speaker 1: Why this timing? Um? Is this is this throwing the
Speaker 1: baby out with the bath water? Well, there are a
Speaker 1: couple of things happening here and it's it's complicated, so
Speaker 1: so I want to try to be as careful as
Speaker 1: I can. The Trump administration on Monday is going to
Speaker 1: reimpose most of the sanctions that were lifted by the
Speaker 1: Obama administration when they ain't that nuclear deal, the j
Speaker 1: c p o A or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. Um. Essentially,
Speaker 1: are you telling me that CNN's headline is lying to
Speaker 1: me the senns has all sanctions. Yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 1: That's the White Houses line, and they're they're misleading quite
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now, I report, uh late yesterday, only
Speaker 1: promised publicly, but certainly also privately to reporters and other
Speaker 1: experts in Washington, d C. Who kind of tracked this
Speaker 1: issue closely. Iran is going to be allowed to remain
Speaker 1: connected to SWIFT. That's the international banking system. It facilitates
Speaker 1: cross border transactions. This has been a key financial lifeline
Speaker 1: for TROD. It's kept business open with Europe. UH. The
Speaker 1: administration for a time was saying we're not going to
Speaker 1: allow this anymore because Iran also uses Swift for funding
Speaker 1: it's terror operations. It's a big source of income for
Speaker 1: the regime over there, and they were first signally a
Speaker 1: total disconnect, which would have jibed with what Republicans in
Speaker 1: Congress and certainly people like John Bolton were saying outside
Speaker 1: of the administration. Now from inside the administration, they reversed
Speaker 1: on that. That came after pressure from European allies, particularly Germany,
Speaker 1: France and the Brits Um, who want to keep doing
Speaker 1: business with a RAM. They want to keep the lines open,
Speaker 1: so this is kind of a concession to them. The
Speaker 1: other concession comes on the front of oil, one of
Speaker 1: the key sanctions that really could choke off UH the
Speaker 1: Iranian economy, and further kind of push a poppel which
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are looking for to
Speaker 1: see that regime booted out because of the weak economy. Uh.
Speaker 1: Instead they're issuing oil waivers. At least eight countries are
Speaker 1: set to get these waivers. They last about a hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty days. So as opposed to what the President,
Speaker 1: John Bolton and this eighth Department was saying just a
Speaker 1: month or a month and a half ago, we're actually
Speaker 1: granting waivers to countries they can keep importing Iranian crude
Speaker 1: oil and the imports will not reach zero. As many
Speaker 1: Iran Hawks and others in Congress, UH, we're looking for those.
Speaker 1: So this is UH created a bit of outrage. After
Speaker 1: I ran my piece yesterday, I heard there was a
Speaker 1: lot of um back and forth between Congress, the State Department,
Speaker 1: the administration. John Bullton UH pulled the National Security Council,
Speaker 1: the White House National Security Council off of a call
Speaker 1: that was scheduled for just earlier today and left um
Speaker 1: just Secretary of State Pompeo and Treasury Secretary now sent
Speaker 1: to deal with it. So I think that signals level
Speaker 1: of frustration that's coming from some of the harder line
Speaker 1: elements in the administration and on Capitol Hill. But I
Speaker 1: can say in totality, these sanctions are much stronger than
Speaker 1: what the Obama administration was pushing for, which was essentially
Speaker 1: opening up a Ran to the globe. So from that side,
Speaker 1: it's good. But I think you're going to hear from
Speaker 1: a rand hawks there's still away to go. And off
Speaker 1: of that, Senator Cruizes working on a bill right now.
Speaker 1: It's not quite soup, but it will be in the
Speaker 1: coming weeks, and that's going to mandate the president fully
Speaker 1: disconnect Iran from the Swift banking system. Well, so this
Speaker 1: is this was gonna be my next question for you. Um,
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the White House hasn't been
Speaker 1: completely honest with by saying all sanctions, because of course
Speaker 1: you have these these little carve outs. Um. But I
Speaker 1: suppose that what they're doing is and I saw your
Speaker 1: story yesterday by the way, I mean, Adam Credo, ladies
Speaker 1: gentlemen had this up before anybody else, and had the
Speaker 1: intel on this before anybody else. Um on this story,
Speaker 1: and and yesterday ran the headline on the on the
Speaker 1: Freebeacon dot com. Trump admin poised to cave on Iran sanctions.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna push back a bit on on on that,
Speaker 1: given that you gave me that You're not the only
Speaker 1: one from But the difference is I don't work at
Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah. Um, well, you know, cave isn't
Speaker 1: cave a bit of a strong word like I mean,
Speaker 1: like you say, there are obviously a little bit here
Speaker 1: and a little bit there. Maybe I don't know this
Speaker 1: saving saving their powder for another another flash point, or
Speaker 1: to dangle damically and sword over the heads um of
Speaker 1: the Iranians at another another juncture, and maybe swift is
Speaker 1: a part of that, or do you believe that there
Speaker 1: is something more nefarious at play here? Like who has
Speaker 1: got to this policy? Why did it change? Why did
Speaker 1: people like John Bolton, who appears to be you know,
Speaker 1: very well uh empowered within the administration not get his
Speaker 1: way on this? Yeah? Like like most things, I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination of both the points you mentioned. Um,
Speaker 1: I can tell you in covering this closely, and I've
Speaker 1: been lighting it for two or three months now, the
Speaker 1: Europeans um just have been very very tough on this administration,
Speaker 1: and the people handling talks on the half of Trump
Speaker 1: appear to have sympathies to that European stands that Iran
Speaker 1: should remain open for business, that countries should be allowed
Speaker 1: to continue importing oil. And I think they've brought those
Speaker 1: concerns back to the US and that's what we've seen
Speaker 1: with the States departments. So the reason I use the
Speaker 1: word cave, and I think it is actually a very
Speaker 1: fair way to put it, is because we went in
Speaker 1: with this tough line. This is what the President has
Speaker 1: asked for, this is what N. S. A. Bolton has
Speaker 1: asked for, and after months of negotiations, they walked that back.
Speaker 1: As on diplomat put it to me yesterday, this is
Speaker 1: not what the president asked for. This is not what
Speaker 1: he instructed the administration to do. They talk about a
Speaker 1: maximum pressure campaign on a ran and this is not
Speaker 1: maximum pressure. More can be done. Now, it's certainly fair
Speaker 1: to also praise them for these moves. Yes, they are
Speaker 1: reimposing a series of tough sanctions that will impact ranium banks,
Speaker 1: that will impact oil energy, these kinds of things. But
Speaker 1: then there are other issues you look at of little
Speaker 1: nuclear cooperation. Essentially, Iran is going to be allowed to
Speaker 1: continue building, constructing, and working with Russia and others on
Speaker 1: nuclear reactors that gives you nuclear byproducts such as heavy water,
Speaker 1: which can be used to power a nuclear weapon. These
Speaker 1: small concessions mean something, and it sent a signal to
Speaker 1: Tehran um that the Europeans are going to provide them
Speaker 1: a lifeline. And that's exactly what they've done, and it
Speaker 1: seems that in part that's what they've convinced this administration
Speaker 1: to do. Now we have waivers for a hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty days. I'm told now that all In and the
Speaker 1: NFC in the coming months are gonna push very hard
Speaker 1: for swift and sanctions and oil all these reductions to
Speaker 1: be brought fully down on Iran. But it's a waiting
Speaker 1: game now. It's a matter of again if they can
Speaker 1: win that position that the President is advocated. Once again,
Speaker 1: we're speaking with Adam Creta, Senior Rice at the Washington Freebeacon.
Speaker 1: I'm Rhinkasam. This is the Buck Sexton Show. And just
Speaker 1: to add another name into that mix, Donald Trump has
Speaker 1: tweeted today Adam a meme um based on Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I think you've you've seen it?
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Great show? Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I read all the books too. I've I've I can't
Speaker 1: read so UM, I've seen it. It says sanctions are
Speaker 1: coming November five, and it's a stock picture of you
Speaker 1: seen this, Yeah, like the winter is coming type of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did see this meme, UM, and it's good. Look
Speaker 1: the White House. UM. From what I've heard today, not
Speaker 1: just from sources in Congress, and these are people that
Speaker 1: have kind of been battling the administration on this, they're
Speaker 1: they're uh somewhat more to the right than the administration
Speaker 1: on the Iran sanctions. And I've also heard it from
Speaker 1: US officials abroad who are working with the Europeans that yeah,
Speaker 1: sanctions are coming, they will be reimposed, but there are
Speaker 1: multiple loopholes. After me and others last night reported these
Speaker 1: latest concessions to Iran UM, it appears the White House
Speaker 1: canceled a series of background briefings for UM experts and
Speaker 1: other kind of administration validators. Uh. Like I said, Bolton
Speaker 1: took himself off of the call. So there's there's fear.
Speaker 1: They're scared, they feel like they're losing the narrative, and
Speaker 1: I think means are a good way to kind of
Speaker 1: get them back on track with that. So so that's
Speaker 1: kind of my read on that. Well, and we've only
Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left here, UM, but I'd
Speaker 1: love to ask you about the fact that you're in Florida,
Speaker 1: UM and covering I know, the gubernatorial race Andrew Gillim's
Speaker 1: ties to radical anti Israel groups. Can you tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about that in just a couple of minutes. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Gilham is running against Bonta Santis, a former member of
Speaker 1: Congress who resigned his seat. Uh to Santis, a lawmaker
Speaker 1: I've worked with for years, very strong on foreign policy,
Speaker 1: very pro Israel, very anti Iran. Gilham is pretty much
Speaker 1: the complete opposite. Former mayor of Tallahassee, he's under investigation
Speaker 1: for corruption he uh took free gifts from an undercover
Speaker 1: FBI agent, And in addition to this, like I reported,
Speaker 1: he has ties to numerous left wing George Sorrow's flendid
Speaker 1: groups that very much advocated anti Israel position, that is,
Speaker 1: um advocating in favor of boycotts of Israel. The BDS movement,
Speaker 1: which we all know is very uh anti Semitic and
Speaker 1: quite Vitch relic in the way they described the Jewish state,
Speaker 1: and h Gilian has tried to run away from these ties,
Speaker 1: but I think they're cropping up and they seem to
Speaker 1: be chasing him on the campaign trail. UM. I was
Speaker 1: at a rally just a couple of days ago where
Speaker 1: Trump came and rallied for de Santis and Rick Scott,
Speaker 1: who is also running against Bill Nelson, and discussed these things,
Speaker 1: and um, from the reaction of the crowd, I think
Speaker 1: they're getting the message now. Whether that translates to votes,
Speaker 1: it's unclear. I think the Santis is viewed right now
Speaker 1: a little bit as an underdog, but that could tie
Speaker 1: you up in the next couple of days. I think, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm great. I wish we had more time, but really,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for going us from from Florida.
Speaker 1: We'll see you when you get back to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: I owe you. It is your birthday today, right, it's
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Speaker 1: hit people with clubs, you know, they hit them again
Speaker 1: and again. Oh, they're so lucky with nice soul. Oh
Speaker 1: they're so lucky. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show,
Speaker 1: am rahem, because I'm covering for Buck Sexton today. That
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite moments from from President Trump's
Speaker 1: speech on Thursday evening, calling out Antifa yet again. You'll
Speaker 1: remember he's done that before. He's done it before, exactly
Speaker 1: with with having uh the tequila song, I think it
Speaker 1: was being made a meme of um and uh it's
Speaker 1: that's it's certainly a long overdue, I believe, because you know,
Speaker 1: from from about September the one to October the twenty ninth, eighteen,
Speaker 1: I believe there are six hundred and thirty two acts
Speaker 1: of violence and harassment against supporters of this president, of
Speaker 1: supporters of President Trump. This is the the Antifa mindset.
Speaker 1: You know. They often argue themselves that the reason that
Speaker 1: Antifa cannot be prescribed as an organization, the reason that
Speaker 1: Antifa cannot be dealt with on an institutional basis, the
Speaker 1: way we might deal with a group like Almaha Jaroun
Speaker 1: or or a terrorfaction, or or a far right neo
Speaker 1: Nazi group or whatever it is, is because they say themselves.
Speaker 1: Antifa says themselves. They say, but Antifa is not not
Speaker 1: a group. It doesn't have a leadership. It's just a mindset. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, it is a mindset. There are
Speaker 1: members of Antifa. There are members who subscribe to that mindset.
Speaker 1: They wear the T shirts, they fly the flags. Antifa
Speaker 1: is a mindset of violence. It's a mindset of harassment.
Speaker 1: It's a mindset that's born out of being. As President
Speaker 1: Trump intimated there week, I believe both physically and of
Speaker 1: will philosophically void. And I also believe deeply, deeply troubled
Speaker 1: individuals who believe, they truly believe in their minds that
Speaker 1: they are real litigating the Spanish Civil War on the
Speaker 1: streets of Delaware, or on the streets of Florida, or
Speaker 1: in the streets of California, they truly believe. And by
Speaker 1: the way, one of the greatest diarists of that Spanish
Speaker 1: Civil War, George or Well, would have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with antifa. I say that as an Orwell aficionado. But nevertheless,
Speaker 1: you know, this is something that does need addressing, because
Speaker 1: when there's an attack from the right, or ostensibly from
Speaker 1: the right to the left, everybody gets on their soap box,
Speaker 1: everybody gets on their high horse, and they say, we
Speaker 1: must condemn this, and the president needs to condemn it.
Speaker 1: And he's not condemned it fast enough. He didn't condemn
Speaker 1: it before it happens, so it wasn't fast enough. But
Speaker 1: when there's attack from the left, an attack against the deplorables,
Speaker 1: against the Trump supporters, the six and thirty two acts
Speaker 1: of violence against Trump supporters over the last two years,
Speaker 1: it's pitch silence. It's always silence. You don't get the
Speaker 1: television shows showing the footage, you don't get the radio
Speaker 1: programs playing the clips. It's stone cold silence. And I
Speaker 1: think it behooves this administration. And I'm so glad President
Speaker 1: Trump raised it to actually do something about it, to say,
Speaker 1: you know what there is, and of course we know
Speaker 1: there is a strain, no matter how small, a strain
Speaker 1: of far right in neo Nazi violence all across the
Speaker 1: Western world. I've seen it all across the Western world. Yes,
Speaker 1: it exists, but you'll never get the other side saying
Speaker 1: that about their side. I am avowed conservative, I'm a
Speaker 1: right winger, and I say, yes, there are people who
Speaker 1: try and attach themselves to a movement that I profess
Speaker 1: to be a part of that do engage in things
Speaker 1: like that, and the other side never has to account
Speaker 1: for theirs. So this administration, I believe, should be doing
Speaker 1: something about it, whether it's prescription of the organization that
Speaker 1: isn't an organization, whether it's ensuring that the people who
Speaker 1: are committing these attacks on ordinary American voters that they
Speaker 1: feel the full force of the law. I'm just so
Speaker 1: glad President Trump raised it, and I'm so glad he
Speaker 1: told the truth that these are weak people. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheim Kasan filling in
Speaker 1: for Buck Sexton, and we have another one of our
Speaker 1: fantastic guests on the line, Dr Sebastian Gorka, the author
Speaker 1: of the brand new book Why We Fight, which is
Speaker 1: available via regulary UM on Amazon dot com. It's a
Speaker 1: fantastic book. I was lucky enough to celebrate its release
Speaker 1: with Dr Gorka here in Washington, d C. Just a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. You'll all know him as a
Speaker 1: former deputy assistant to President Trump. Dr Corker, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having me, and for the kind
Speaker 1: words about my book, which is almost as good as
Speaker 1: your books. No No Goes On. Thank you. You'll get
Speaker 1: your cut of my royalty checks in the mail. Dr Corker. UM,
Speaker 1: you know you're an expert, and you and I have
Speaker 1: known each other for several years now, and whenever we
Speaker 1: get together, we end up talking about UM. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the issues closest to our hearts National security. UM.
Speaker 1: And And when you look at what's going on in
Speaker 1: Central America at the moment, when you look at what's
Speaker 1: going on with this so called my igrant caravan, I
Speaker 1: don't even know why they call it a caravan. There's
Speaker 1: no caravan involved. This is a march of migrants, much
Speaker 1: much as we saw in Europe in two thousand and
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen and sixteen. UM, what does it tell
Speaker 1: you first and foremost that the media is going to
Speaker 1: such great lengths to say, no, you don't know that
Speaker 1: there are any criminals in there. It's all mothers. You know.
Speaker 1: We need to process these people with their asylum claims
Speaker 1: on the border. They all deserve to come in. Well,
Speaker 1: is that a political tactic or they or are they
Speaker 1: genuinely that vacuous that they don't know what's going on?
Speaker 1: I think it's deeper than that. I think well, I
Speaker 1: think they subscribed to Hillary Clinton's philosophy. Remember that speech
Speaker 1: that was leaked during the presidential campaign in which did
Speaker 1: she addressed a group of bankers and where she said,
Speaker 1: my dream is to have a borderless hemisphere, meaning no
Speaker 1: border from Canada to South America, at which point America
Speaker 1: ceases to exist. So, these are people who are so
Speaker 1: so brainwashed by the post modern secular relativism of the
Speaker 1: radical left that they actually think everybody has the right
Speaker 1: to come to America, that being an American is is
Speaker 1: some kind of human rights. It's it's quite stunning. And
Speaker 1: the idea that they can vouch for the for the
Speaker 1: probity of of ten thousand people without ever having met
Speaker 1: any of them. It just simply beggars belief, and it
Speaker 1: isn't assault on the national sovereignty of the United States.
Speaker 1: In case anybody had forgotten, you know, Hillary Clinton's words
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and thirteen, she was giving a
Speaker 1: paid speech right to investors at the Brazilian banko ITTAW
Speaker 1: and she said, my dream is a hemispheric common market
Speaker 1: with open trade and open borders. I mean, very very
Speaker 1: brazen about it. And so what you're saying, Dr Gorka
Speaker 1: is these guys, whether it's you know, Jim Acosta or
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo or whomever, are just carrying Clinton's torch where
Speaker 1: where she stumbled and fell over, rolled over a couple
Speaker 1: of times, had a coughing fit, and dropped it in
Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen. They look they they are the anti Brexit.
Speaker 1: They are the people who think that borders are evil,
Speaker 1: that the national identity is what fascists and white supremacists
Speaker 1: believe in. They negate. They basically negate the modern Westphalian system.
Speaker 1: That is that the quintessence of of the Judeo Christian
Speaker 1: you know, civilization, whereby nations have identities, they have sovereignty,
Speaker 1: they have border, they have culture. For for them. All
Speaker 1: of these words are hate speech. So let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the specifics of the caravan. Then, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, who who are these people? How is this
Speaker 1: thing funded? How can we now seeing busses and trailers,
Speaker 1: and more importantly, how come we now seeing rocks and
Speaker 1: Molotov cocktails and so on and so forth. I thought
Speaker 1: this was all mothers with babes in arms. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I think we should look to the incredible work of
Speaker 1: people like my colleague at Fox, Sarah Carter, who speak
Speaker 1: Spanish and who actually went there to interview and investigate
Speaker 1: the caravan, as opposed to Jim Acosta, whose real name
Speaker 1: I think is Albio Acosta, who seems to be ashamed
Speaker 1: of his Hispanic heritage, who sit in there plush studios
Speaker 1: in New York and pontificate about who is in the caravans.
Speaker 1: If you listen to Sarah, these are the majority of
Speaker 1: the people are military age males, none of whom seem
Speaker 1: to have any any backing, any grounds for it testing
Speaker 1: political asylum. And if you look at the fact that
Speaker 1: even what it was at Univision by accident found South
Speaker 1: Asians inside the caravans. People for example from Bangladesh. That's
Speaker 1: journalism when you actually go there and interview these people,
Speaker 1: and very few including as you say, a Billio a
Speaker 1: Bilio Acosta, Jim Acosta's real name, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: we all have to refer to him as everybody's got
Speaker 1: to tweet at him that now. I mean, why why
Speaker 1: why is he hiding his his his Is he ashamed
Speaker 1: of his heritage? I saw that on your Twitter feed today,
Speaker 1: Dr Gorgus, thank you, And it really is that this
Speaker 1: is this is the arrogance of the left that they
Speaker 1: can't even admit to their ethnic background because they're November
Speaker 1: of the quote unquote media elite. Jim, you're no longer
Speaker 1: Jim to those who know well, Dr Gorger, I wanted
Speaker 1: to I wanted to also tie this to the mid
Speaker 1: terms because the the you know, the question on everyone's
Speaker 1: lips has been now for the last week as regards
Speaker 1: this migrant caravan is you know, when will it arrive,
Speaker 1: When will arrive on the southern border, Will it get
Speaker 1: there on on Sunday and or Monday or Tuesday morning?
Speaker 1: Ready for the for the pictures of of of you know,
Speaker 1: the five crying children that they'll line up there and
Speaker 1: and then accused President Trump of being cold and heartless
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Um and and you
Speaker 1: know that sort of is one of the big topics
Speaker 1: on the minds of people this weekend. I think as
Speaker 1: they reconcile, you know, perhaps that same as you raised
Speaker 1: a Hillary Clinton mentality versus what we've seen over the
Speaker 1: last two years. So just let's let's talk a bit
Speaker 1: about what that's not, just what the stakes are obviously
Speaker 1: at the midterms. And and and by the way, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Dr Gawker is a co star alongside me
Speaker 1: in that Trumpet War movie that we spoke with Stephen K.
Speaker 1: Bannon about earlier in the program. Um and and actually
Speaker 1: gets the best part of the movie because he has
Speaker 1: the best voice and the best metaphor at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie. But I think I hope you can
Speaker 1: walk us through that a little bit. What you said
Speaker 1: in Trumpet War, and what what the stakes of this
Speaker 1: midterms are, especially considering just a migrant caravan, but the
Speaker 1: economic situation. And I know you always bring up you
Speaker 1: know what, what what are the Democrats going to run
Speaker 1: on bringing back isis take it away? Thank you? It's
Speaker 1: really it's very simple. In twenty six the positive disrupted
Speaker 1: the iconoclass from the queens, gave us a window, gave
Speaker 1: us a chance to claw back our freedom, to claw
Speaker 1: back our republic space, as as the rightful, shining city
Speaker 1: on the hill, to fight back, to resist the political
Speaker 1: correctness that had dominated American politics and culture for more
Speaker 1: than the generation. But all of that, all of that
Speaker 1: is on the ballot. In what is it? Four Days Time?
Speaker 1: Just look at the last two months, I wrote Why
Speaker 1: We Fight, and not just as an analysis of the
Speaker 1: threats American faces, but the shed a light on who
Speaker 1: the Democrats have become. In it, I write about Whittaker Chambers,
Speaker 1: the man who was Judge Kavanaugh before Judge Cavanaugh was
Speaker 1: even born. The Democrat pie today is the mob. You
Speaker 1: look at that, the treatment of this righteous, godly man,
Speaker 1: the hands of absolute frauds like Corey Booker, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: and Diane Feinstein who had let's not forget a Chinese
Speaker 1: intelligence agents on her pay role in the Senate for
Speaker 1: twenty years. And these people want to take control of
Speaker 1: our Maxie Morris, who has pulled openly again and again
Speaker 1: and again for the um denunciation and the harassments of
Speaker 1: members of the Trump administration. She's going to be the
Speaker 1: chair of the Finance Committee. If we do don't do
Speaker 1: our job on on on the midterm elections and vote
Speaker 1: down to Republican all the way. But everybody says that
Speaker 1: every few years this is the most consequential election in
Speaker 1: your lives. This time, for once, it's actually truer. You. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's right. I mean, I opened
Speaker 1: I opened the show today effectively saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not one for hyperbole. If anything, I sort of
Speaker 1: take conservative estimates of occasions as well as um, you know,
Speaker 1: elections and so on and so forth. But this this
Speaker 1: does feel just just incredibly pivotal. It's about submit whether
Speaker 1: or not it's aments the victory of twenty sixteen, whether
Speaker 1: or not the swamp continues to be, or whether the
Speaker 1: American people say, no, actually, you know what, we changed
Speaker 1: our minds. We do kind of like the swamp, and
Speaker 1: we do want higher taxes, and we do want Isis back,
Speaker 1: you know, as you as you've put it before. And
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't think, at least I don't hope,
Speaker 1: um that they'll go in for it. Um Dr Gorka.
Speaker 1: I wish we had I wish we had some more time,
Speaker 1: but we're pressed here and I know you have a
Speaker 1: very busy schedule coming up over the next few days
Speaker 1: doing your part um. And if people want to do
Speaker 1: their part in helping you, they can always go on
Speaker 1: to Amazon and and get the great book personally recommended
Speaker 1: by me. It's called Why We Fight by Dr Sebastian Gorka.
Speaker 1: Dr Gorka. Any final words and and where else can
Speaker 1: they get the book? If they don't want to line
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos his pockets, well they can go to Barns
Speaker 1: and Noble. They can buy it from one of the
Speaker 1: few booksellers left in America. And also the audible. You're
Speaker 1: gonna go and buy it on iTunes or Audible in
Speaker 1: audio format and you can hear my strange accent for
Speaker 1: about eight hours. Really use the book. But for them,
Speaker 1: all is you know, find the book. If you're interested
Speaker 1: in might take on why we find the most Important Boots.
Speaker 1: Don't take anything to granted to them. Vote this week
Speaker 1: and take others who would not otherwise go to the
Speaker 1: polls check them to vote as well, because it really
Speaker 1: is about whether or not the mob's going to take
Speaker 1: control of for life jobs, not mobs. There you go,
Speaker 1: Dr Sebastian Gorka, thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: here on the buck Sexton Show. My name is Rahemkasam
Speaker 1: covering four bucks Sexton today. Will be right back say
Speaker 1: to you. We have an election. No sex, this is
Speaker 1: be This may be the most important one that you've
Speaker 1: ever had to experience. This is the midterm election. And
Speaker 1: oftentimes people only vote in the presidential election because they
Speaker 1: don't think this is important enough. But this is absolutely important.
Speaker 1: That's all the insurance come, that's all the banks, and
Speaker 1: so of course the CEO is that the banks now
Speaker 1: is saying what can we do to stop vaccine waters
Speaker 1: because if she gets in, she's gonna give us a
Speaker 1: bad time. I have not forgotten you four clothes on
Speaker 1: our houses. I've forgot forgotten that you undermine our community.
Speaker 1: I have not forgotten that you sold us those exotic products.
Speaker 1: Had a sign on the line, but jump and for
Speaker 1: mess that we could not afford. And in doing that,
Speaker 1: I have people who are on the homes who have
Speaker 1: never gotten back into a home. What am I gonna
Speaker 1: do to you? What I'm gonna do to U s
Speaker 1: F I'm gonna do to you what you did to us.
Speaker 1: Maxine Waters. There, this is the Buck Sexton show. I'm
Speaker 1: raheem because some Maxine Waters, Congressman Maxine Waters showing again
Speaker 1: the sort of vindictiveness as far as I am concerned,
Speaker 1: and and pure royal nature of the debate as the
Speaker 1: Democrats have set it up. Now, those who have been
Speaker 1: paying attention, I'm sure we all have over the last
Speaker 1: couple of months, have seen the debate go further and
Speaker 1: further into the toilet with the Michael Abanatis and and
Speaker 1: the Kavanagh staff and and and all of that, and
Speaker 1: and they're not learning their lessons as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to hold up Maxine Waters
Speaker 1: to be your greatest spokesman, I mean, fill your boots
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, because it only helps my side,
Speaker 1: and it only helps people with my mentality, but it
Speaker 1: also does something else for me. It reminds me that
Speaker 1: not only are they so petty, are they so vindictive,
Speaker 1: but that they've also got the prescription incorrect. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about what she just said there, Think about the
Speaker 1: sort of house foreclosures and the and the financial crash
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff that wasn't That wasn't the
Speaker 1: making of a of a sort of free market right wing,
Speaker 1: nor nationalistic nor popularist government. It wasn't the making of
Speaker 1: someone like President Trump. It wasn't the making of the
Speaker 1: MAGA base. It was the making of globalist institutions. So
Speaker 1: when President Trump says that the left have gone crazy,
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good explainer for In fact,
Speaker 1: if we could play clip one from the Missouri rally,
Speaker 1: president Trump says it better than I ever could. The
Speaker 1: choice in this election could not be more clear. The
Speaker 1: Republican agenda is the mainstream agenda of the American people.
Speaker 1: It's how we all got here, the greatest movement in
Speaker 1: the history of politics in our country. It's about you,
Speaker 1: not about me. The Democrat agenda is the agenda of
Speaker 1: the extreme far left. They've gone crazy, folks. They've gotten
Speaker 1: totally loco. They have gone loco. They have absolutely gone loco.
Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of it is calculated projection.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I was I was a political strategist,
Speaker 1: I was a campaign person. I understand that the lies happen,
Speaker 1: that some of them know what they're doing. When they
Speaker 1: blame this administration for for the pitfalls of globalism, and
Speaker 1: and also, by the way, by the same measure, Barack
Speaker 1: Obama wants to take credit for where the economy is
Speaker 1: right now, which I always scratched my head, by the way,
Speaker 1: because I think I hear time and time again from
Speaker 1: the left and the left media that this country is
Speaker 1: in dire straits and it's all a fake boom and
Speaker 1: this president is making things worse than Barack Obama walks
Speaker 1: onto stage and he goes, yeah, I did that. That
Speaker 1: was me. Well, how you can either take credit if
Speaker 1: you think it's good, or distance yourself from it you
Speaker 1: think it's bad. You can't do both. But that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing. So I know a lot of it is
Speaker 1: is lies in projection. But there are people like Maxine
Speaker 1: Waters who sadly I believe you know she I think
Speaker 1: she believes what she says, bless her or as you
Speaker 1: guys say, blessed, bless her cotton socks. Right. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is um. I mean it reminds me
Speaker 1: of of of being back in England quite frankly. I mean,
Speaker 1: after the breaks of vote, some of you will probably
Speaker 1: know I wouldn't suggest paying particularly close attention to it
Speaker 1: because it's it's eminently depressing. But after the breaksit vote,
Speaker 1: we voted for that great rebellious um instinct that we
Speaker 1: had within us, and the political establishment took that away
Speaker 1: from us and turned it into a process. They turned
Speaker 1: into an administrative state thing. And and I guess that's
Speaker 1: the same thing as you're seeing here um in the
Speaker 1: United States as well. So I just you know, I
Speaker 1: wanted to present you guys with that dichotomy between what
Speaker 1: Max and Water says on the stump versus what President
Speaker 1: Trump said at the Missouri rally this week, and a
Speaker 1: lot more to come this weekend. I'm I'm certainly gonna
Speaker 1: be glued to watching it all take place. This is
Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam will be right back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemkasam covering
Speaker 1: for Buck Sexton today. I wanted to get a little
Speaker 1: bit more detail for you guys on some of the
Speaker 1: races taking place across the country. Culmination in just four
Speaker 1: days time. On Tuesday, we will know does the House
Speaker 1: stay Republican control, does the Senate joining us on the
Speaker 1: line to discuss it is a good A friend of mine,
Speaker 1: commentator and analyst Matthew Tierman. Matthew, you've been following this,
Speaker 1: I think like no other I've seen. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Pat Cadell could go toe to toe with you
Speaker 1: on this. One of my favorite, one of my favorite pollsters.
Speaker 1: But I think I think you know you have become
Speaker 1: obsessed to to Uh well, I don't know. You tell
Speaker 1: me to what lens? Would you suggest that your obsession
Speaker 1: has engulfed you? No, I don't. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I think that might be a little stream. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's all you're talking about. It's all you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's all you're talking about. This is a very you know,
Speaker 1: because this is a very very interesting moment because in
Speaker 1: we had a American electoral historic inflection. Trump did something
Speaker 1: no one did which has taken down the Union ross
Speaker 1: belt Democrat machine didn't make it republican. And now we
Speaker 1: get to see is that validated? Uh? Now, the calidy
Speaker 1: the map is pretty difficult on the House, is the
Speaker 1: mainstream media has suggested. But this blue wave they've been
Speaker 1: talking about for the last few months is not only
Speaker 1: not materialized, it may actually be stillborn. The Senate is
Speaker 1: what nobody's really talking about, because we could win a
Speaker 1: lot of Senate seats. Right now, we're pretty safe with
Speaker 1: fifty one, and there's what they're calling six toss up
Speaker 1: Senate seats, and we should be able to run the
Speaker 1: tam by we I mean Republicans, you know, on the
Speaker 1: on the right, the pro Trump Republicans, not the old
Speaker 1: school establishment GOP. They also got uh they're bus handed
Speaker 1: to him in ten on a lot of levels, which
Speaker 1: has been refreshing. But there's six established toss up seats
Speaker 1: and we look to basically run the table on them.
Speaker 1: Uh the uh, the The only one that's really difficult
Speaker 1: is Florida. Florida's sort of the new Ohio and as
Speaker 1: very very important for because if the Democrats win both
Speaker 1: the Senate seat and the governor's mansion, they will be
Speaker 1: in charge of redistricting, and uh, they will be able
Speaker 1: to have some influence on where the fourth biggest state
Speaker 1: and really the most purple state in the country, uh,
Speaker 1: swings in. It's a you know, it used to be
Speaker 1: the presidency was one through Ohio, but going forward, it
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be Florida. Because Texas, California,
Speaker 1: New York. The three largest states ahead of Florida are
Speaker 1: rather established Texas Republican, California, and New York Democrat. But
Speaker 1: the six swing states that exist right now in this
Speaker 1: Senate race are are Florida, which is absolutely a coin flip,
Speaker 1: Missouri Claire mccaskell's in big trouble there. Indiana, uh is
Speaker 1: also Joe Donnelly, Democrat incumbent, is in big trouble there
Speaker 1: against Braun uh Nevada, hell are the incumbent looks like
Speaker 1: he's in pretty good position. Arizona, which is a open seat,
Speaker 1: McCain's seat which is I'm sorry, flake seat which is
Speaker 1: uh Mark McSally established congresswoman, and Christen Cinema also a Democrat,
Speaker 1: established congresswoman. Uh And Cinema has been sort of digging
Speaker 1: her own grave with the historical act of leftist activism
Speaker 1: she's been engaged in. Uh. They're digging up all these
Speaker 1: videos of her saying things like, you know, she can
Speaker 1: empathize with the Taliban. Uh and you know, fighting America,
Speaker 1: you know how it is, okay? And Jeff calls Arizona
Speaker 1: the meth lab of democracy. Uh. So there's all these
Speaker 1: seats look like and Montana was the other one, all
Speaker 1: look like we can pick them up. But the ones
Speaker 1: that nobody's talking about are ones that are lean Democrat,
Speaker 1: are firmly Democrat according to the establishment posters. And that's
Speaker 1: seats like West Virginia and Joe Mansion are Michigan Debbie Stabin. Now, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a great candidate, John James who's coming on strong.
Speaker 1: Trump is going to to campaign for him. Uh this weekend.
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Tammy Baldwin also vulnerable Wisconsin, remember went for Trump,
Speaker 1: which was a big surprise. Hillary Clinton didn't campaign there
Speaker 1: and Trump did something brilliant, which was in the last
Speaker 1: couple of day he went to Minneapolis. Uh. And that's
Speaker 1: a media market that impacts western Wisconsin and northern Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: To lose Minnesota as well. So I mean, these these
Speaker 1: permutations could get us to fifty seven fifty fifty nine
Speaker 1: in the Senate. Minnesota as well has a special election.
Speaker 1: Al Franken resigned for that. He had his me to
Speaker 1: moment and the appointee was Tina Smith, who was lieutenant
Speaker 1: governor and she's running to keep the seat against a
Speaker 1: state Senator, Karen Houseley. And this is fifty fifty and
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about this. And if you if your listeners,
Speaker 1: recall Al Franken only won the seat from Norm Coleman
Speaker 1: uh in because there was a recount and they were
Speaker 1: able to get the felon vote in thy Felons were
Speaker 1: counted in the Minneapolis Democratic machine in Hennepin County and
Speaker 1: we're able to swing that election. It was a multi
Speaker 1: month recount and that seat was stolen. So Minnesota is
Speaker 1: really really interesting because it looks like it could be
Speaker 1: a new Ohio as well, and go from a progressive bastion,
Speaker 1: which it was like Wisconsin historically for sixty seven years
Speaker 1: along with Michigan the heart of Union progressivism, and now
Speaker 1: it looks like it could, uh, it could start to
Speaker 1: be a Republican Minnesota eight is uh is in the
Speaker 1: northeastern part of the state, and that one, the Republican stalver,
Speaker 1: has a commanding lead. Uh So that one looks like
Speaker 1: it's gonna flip. Minnesota seven. Nobody's talking about that's been
Speaker 1: held by a Democrat for thirty years as the Democrat.
Speaker 1: That's sort of an old school Democrat, blue dog Democrat,
Speaker 1: member of both the Democratic Party and the Democratic farmer
Speaker 1: Labor Party, which is sort of historical anomaly that exists
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, which is as it sounds, farmer labor and
Speaker 1: so this on Peterson has been there for for decades
Speaker 1: and he has in the last three races watched his
Speaker 1: his his spread positive spread over Republican challengers go from
Speaker 1: plus six or seven to plus three or four to
Speaker 1: less than plus one. Last single against the guy opposing him, now,
Speaker 1: David Hughes, who at that point was a nobody. Nobody
Speaker 1: knew him. He was a twenty one year career US
Speaker 1: Air Force vet who had gone into private contracting as
Speaker 1: a drone instructor and is very very strong on the
Speaker 1: border issues. This is what his private sector background was
Speaker 1: is in drone instruction to monitor the southern and the
Speaker 1: northern border, and he's coming on strong. I spoke to
Speaker 1: somebody on the ground there who estimated at the yard
Speaker 1: signs in the district in Minnesota seven are four to
Speaker 1: five to one, uh, Hughes versus Peterson. So that's one
Speaker 1: that nobody's talking about that I think is gonna flip. Uh.
Speaker 1: There are certainly something that up that the machine media
Speaker 1: machine has written off as Republican flip to Democrats like
Speaker 1: Iowa one Rod Bloom, I don't think that one is
Speaker 1: ten to one as as they're suggesting. You know, whenever
Speaker 1: I see Nate Silver say that Republicans have a one
Speaker 1: in fifteen or one in twelve shot, I generally think
Speaker 1: in history is born this out, it's more like one
Speaker 1: in three or four, which if things turn out as
Speaker 1: they are, we had a great economic number today with
Speaker 1: jobs that having a dynamic over the last month. I
Speaker 1: think these one in three or one in four scenarios,
Speaker 1: a lot of them could break towards Republicans. I actually
Speaker 1: think we keep the House and the net loss of
Speaker 1: seats is five to ten. You know, we've got uh
Speaker 1: and the media who's talking about the blue wave, Uh,
Speaker 1: this doesn't exist. Trump today in West Virginia said if
Speaker 1: you want a blue wave, you're voting for a crime wave,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a great talking point given their
Speaker 1: views on borders and policing in general, law enforcement, hawk
Speaker 1: hawkishness on on the military and foreign policy. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of these seats that a lot of the
Speaker 1: establishment posters and that's right end left, have kind of
Speaker 1: written off. Maine. To Bruce poll Quin, the only Republican
Speaker 1: in New England and all the New England states Vermont,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, RhoD Island. He's the only one.
Speaker 1: He's in Maine two, which is also the largest physical
Speaker 1: district in New England. It's all the way from where
Speaker 1: the urban and sort of suburban main ends with Bangor
Speaker 1: and uh and Rockport, all the way to Canada's this
Speaker 1: massive district and it's rather poor. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: Indian reservations. It's a lot of uh funked paper and
Speaker 1: timber mills. And Bruce Polquin is a Republican on on
Speaker 1: the ground there. It's all about god, guns and small government.
Speaker 1: And he has been very strong for the district. He
Speaker 1: is known all over Congress as somebody who really represents
Speaker 1: the district. Uh. They put up a very good candidate,
Speaker 1: Jared Golden, who was a former military and was actually
Speaker 1: a Republican staffer for Susan Collins before going into the
Speaker 1: State House as a Democrat and so on. Paper is
Speaker 1: pretty good. But the more he campaigns, the more he
Speaker 1: left he sounds, and leftist rhetoric doesn't win in Maine two,
Speaker 1: which is Indian reservation country and very very strong on
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment given its sort of hunting culture and
Speaker 1: border in Canada, and let's see the wilderness. Let's just
Speaker 1: let's just reset here for a moment, because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of information for for people to take in. And
Speaker 1: I know you're brain works a mile a minute in
Speaker 1: your mouth works even faster, Matthew. Let's let's just reset
Speaker 1: with that. We're speaking to Matthew Timan. He's a obviously,
Speaker 1: clearly from the last seven minutes, a pretty good analyst
Speaker 1: on all of this sort of thing election and and
Speaker 1: and more. And Matthew, So you're pretty bullish, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I mean, you're you're a lot of people
Speaker 1: are hedging right now. A lot of people, especially behind
Speaker 1: closed doors, people I'm speaking to every day, is saying, look,
Speaker 1: you know, we have to present a brave front to
Speaker 1: this um. But the likelihood is we are going to
Speaker 1: lose the House. You don't think it's that way at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that way at all. I think
Speaker 1: that certainly will lose a few seats in California due
Speaker 1: to redistricting and retirements like Ed Royce, but that will
Speaker 1: be offset with some of this Upper Midwest Ross Belt
Speaker 1: like Minnesota, A lot of the necessary pathway for the
Speaker 1: Democrats to take the House is through places like Illinois,
Speaker 1: and yeah, Illinois six suburbs suburbs of Chicago, Pete Roscom
Speaker 1: is probably done. That area has transitioned to more Chicago's
Speaker 1: city style politics, machine politics. But Illinois twelve, thirteen, and fourteen,
Speaker 1: two of which are in downstate south of St. Louis
Speaker 1: Farm Country. Uh, Boston Davis's seat, those were Trump plus
Speaker 1: fifteen and plus six, respectively. Those seats are fine. And
Speaker 1: Uh Denny Hasterrit's old seat in Illinois fourteen that was
Speaker 1: Trump plus four and hasn't really changed at all. The
Speaker 1: incumbent Holts Grin should be fine. And the irony is
Speaker 1: that the Dems are running with this marketing campaign. This
Speaker 1: young lady who lives in her parents, her parents house,
Speaker 1: she's thirty something, and it's had to market herself as
Speaker 1: if she's a a nurse and nose healthcare and she's
Speaker 1: seven months out of graduation and never really worked in
Speaker 1: a clinical setting. So it's all kind of fluffy noise.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think they're gonna pick up these
Speaker 1: seats that's necessary for them to do in New York State,
Speaker 1: which is obviously you know, democratic governor to democratic senators.
Speaker 1: What you see a lot of is something we've talked
Speaker 1: in the past, given that your British political background is
Speaker 1: a Tory factor, is to see a lot of polling
Speaker 1: where people won't admit that they're going to vote for
Speaker 1: the Republican And so New York twenty two is a
Speaker 1: great example. It's sort of the center of the state,
Speaker 1: north of Albany all the way to Canada. Souquite a
Speaker 1: tenny and that was a Trump plus fifteen and also
Speaker 1: wrongly plus almost one, and so it's pulling within the
Speaker 1: margin of error in the northeast. So I think Torri
Speaker 1: factor has this within the margin of error. But I
Speaker 1: think this is solid Trump country. Uh, there is a
Speaker 1: certainly going to be a loss I think in New
Speaker 1: York nineteen, which is John Fazio's feat that's north of
Speaker 1: New York City. I wish, I honestly, I wish we
Speaker 1: could have all of this uh laid out, but we are.
Speaker 1: We are tied on time. UM So so your your
Speaker 1: predictions are gain in the Senate and don't lose the House.
Speaker 1: We could gain up to fifty eight even fifty nine
Speaker 1: in the Senate and we'll keep the House with the
Speaker 1: margin of ten to fifteen is my call, and I'm
Speaker 1: wrong an awful little bit in that will still be
Speaker 1: fine in the House. I think that this is all uh,
Speaker 1: sound and fury told by an idiot as the mainstream medium.
Speaker 1: The establishment posters generally are wrong and push their agenda,
Speaker 1: not the truth. But it does require people to go
Speaker 1: out and vote, does it not? It does, And I
Speaker 1: think that's also a big dynamic that's not captured by
Speaker 1: the polls, which is we are way more motivated. And
Speaker 1: for instance, the youth Democrat activists who the articles are
Speaker 1: talking about couldn't figure out how to stamp an absentee
Speaker 1: valve and send it. It's very easy for them to
Speaker 1: talk about going, but when it's when it actually push
Speaker 1: comes to shop. One more race that's really important and
Speaker 1: has real national significance, as in New Jersey Senate race.
Speaker 1: If it rains on Tuesday, which is actually looking like
Speaker 1: the percentages of are going up, it might then be
Speaker 1: walking around money that you get in Camden Newark e
Speaker 1: Strange Patterson won't go as far, and I think Bob Huggan,
Speaker 1: who's running a phenomenal campaign and phenomenal ad campaign against
Speaker 1: Menendez who was invested for corruption. Uh, he's running a
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar ad campaign. I live in New York.
Speaker 1: We will we will definitely keep a close eye on
Speaker 1: that one as well, Matthew. But we've got to leave
Speaker 1: it there. Matthews, timan commentation and analyst, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show.
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Speaker 1: learn more. No, No, you know what, You're creating violence
Speaker 1: by your questions. You know you are creating you And
Speaker 1: also a lot of the reporters are creating violence by
Speaker 1: not writing the truth. The fake news is creating violence.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the people that support Trump and
Speaker 1: the people that support us, which is a lot of people,
Speaker 1: most people, many people. Those people know what a story
Speaker 1: is through and they know what a story is false.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, if the media would write
Speaker 1: correctly and right accurately and right fairly, you'd have a
Speaker 1: lot less violence in the country, does the Buck Sexton show.
Speaker 1: I'm rhemasm. That was President Trump speaking today, pointing the
Speaker 1: thing right back at what I like to call the
Speaker 1: fake news industrial complex. We have heard, have we not
Speaker 1: for several years now? Gosh, it feels like perhaps a
Speaker 1: lot longer. We've heard for several years that the President
Speaker 1: Trump and the deplorables, the MAGA supporters out there are
Speaker 1: the ones behind all the violence out there. Right forget
Speaker 1: the six hundred odd attacks on them over the course
Speaker 1: of the last few years that I mentioned earlier on
Speaker 1: in the show. No, the fingers always points squarely at
Speaker 1: this president and his supporters. But he's turned the tables
Speaker 1: on them yet again. I don't say how they didn't
Speaker 1: see this coming. I mean, we're quite used to this
Speaker 1: president being able to quite effectively shimmy his way out
Speaker 1: of these sort of holes and boxes that they try
Speaker 1: and try and put him in. But again they've they've
Speaker 1: gone for it. Remember they they introduced the term fake
Speaker 1: news to try and act President Trump. But now when
Speaker 1: you think of fake news as a term, I mean
Speaker 1: in England, it has become synonymous with the BBC, and
Speaker 1: I would argue that a lot of people's minds jumped
Speaker 1: to CNN when they hear that term. So so President
Speaker 1: Trump employing his oft proven tactic of turning the situation
Speaker 1: back on the establishment here saying no, actually, it's fake
Speaker 1: reporting that is causing a lot of the consternation which
Speaker 1: leads to violence in the United States. I happen to
Speaker 1: quite agree. And it's not just through this administration. It's
Speaker 1: been around for a very long time. You know, fake
Speaker 1: news is nothing new. Fake news started with the advent
Speaker 1: of news. I mean here in Washington, d C. There
Speaker 1: is a there is a museum that I commend to
Speaker 1: everyone called the Museum. Now there's a lot of anti
Speaker 1: Trump stuff in that in that museum, but what it
Speaker 1: will do is it will show you how. You know,
Speaker 1: news started as pamphleteering politics called pamphlet hearing, so people
Speaker 1: would make things up. They would naturally make things up
Speaker 1: or portray opponents in a bad light. News organizations and
Speaker 1: pamphlets and magazines were owned by political figures who use
Speaker 1: them and indeed, in your founding of your country, use
Speaker 1: them to smear one another, use them to do each
Speaker 1: other down. The idea of neutrality um in the new
Speaker 1: sphere really only came along at the same time as
Speaker 1: sort of hu Kayama's end of history theory was becoming
Speaker 1: ingrained in the minds of of of the elite, the
Speaker 1: people who had the reins of power. They thought, hey,
Speaker 1: look this is how the world is now, open trade,
Speaker 1: open borders, you know, multiculturalism, the diversity doctrines, so and
Speaker 1: so forth. And along with that came, you know, the
Speaker 1: end of the end of of of the idea of
Speaker 1: a back and forth that people, ordinary people could make
Speaker 1: their own minds up as to what they were being presented. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't come on here on this radio show today
Speaker 1: and say I am a neutral arbiter of the news.
Speaker 1: I have no dog in any fight. It's a nonsense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. It would be asking us to put
Speaker 1: our very a very core, a very spirit, as as
Speaker 1: human beings, to a side, which I would argue is impossible.
Speaker 1: And and you know, I can say that over the
Speaker 1: course of four or five minutes. But President Trump has
Speaker 1: this magnificent way of just boiling it down to just
Speaker 1: a couple of sentences and he says, no, you know
Speaker 1: what you're creating violence. By your questions, the fake news
Speaker 1: is creating violence. And had it not been for the
Speaker 1: fact that all of these guys and girls out there
Speaker 1: had portrayed themselves for so long as neutral arbiters of
Speaker 1: the news and we sort of went along with it,
Speaker 1: right then we wouldn't have found ourselves in this situation.
Speaker 1: But now people realize that they're being lied to. And
Speaker 1: now people realize that some of the things that we
Speaker 1: were told, whether it was about the economy or the
Speaker 1: Iraq War or so and and so forth, that we
Speaker 1: were being sold pubs, we were being sold eyes. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Causam joining
Speaker 1: me now on the line as the president of the
Speaker 1: Clairemont Institute, and full disclosure, I am a Claimont Institute
Speaker 1: at Lincoln Fellow. I can't speak highly enough about the
Speaker 1: Claimont Institute. So I'm delighted to have Ryan Williams joining
Speaker 1: us now, not least because Ryan was instrumental in a
Speaker 1: a new article going up on a Claremont Institute website,
Speaker 1: American Mind dot org. I suggest you all take a
Speaker 1: look at this slightly spicy I think it's called Our
Speaker 1: House Divided Multiculturalism Versus America by Thomas D. Klingenstein and
Speaker 1: it's a fascinating article. Ryan, thanks for joining us to
Speaker 1: to discuss this. UM. I guess, I guess there's always
Speaker 1: trepidation when UM, when publishing something like this, especially you know,
Speaker 1: in August institution like the Clairemont Institute wading into into
Speaker 1: the debate surrounding multiculturalism. I mean, I personally don't have
Speaker 1: an issue doing it myself, but you know what kind
Speaker 1: of rocks get thrown by the establishment media when something
Speaker 1: like happened. So just like, let's let's talk through this
Speaker 1: article a little bit. Let's talk about it's it's um,
Speaker 1: it's a prognosis over multiculturalism, and then and then perhaps
Speaker 1: you can talk us through a little bit of the
Speaker 1: thought process behind this. Sure, yeah, thanks for having me. Raheim. Well,
Speaker 1: Tom kling has seen as a full disclosure a Claremont's
Speaker 1: board chairman, which of course is into his byeline, but
Speaker 1: he wanted to update this term multiculturalism, which a lot
Speaker 1: of us probably hadn't heard since the nineties, uh, and
Speaker 1: tie it to identity politics and political correctness and really
Speaker 1: to to lay the blame for um for the some
Speaker 1: of our pathologies and our identity politics pathologies, and our
Speaker 1: current political pathologies at the feet of the Academy and
Speaker 1: the project that it's been I've been going about for
Speaker 1: the last fifty years. It's pretty Um, it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: in depth. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't pull any
Speaker 1: punches here. I mean, you know, looking at looking at
Speaker 1: both the establishments perspective on aliculturalism as well as the
Speaker 1: rights perspective on multiculturalism. Um, what do you think that
Speaker 1: the key takeaways from from dus King and Stina, Well,
Speaker 1: his his one of his his lead point was really
Speaker 1: that a lot of conservatives didn't understand what Trump was doing.
Speaker 1: H And he draws the provocative analogy between Trump and Lincoln,
Speaker 1: And his point is that, you know, in the slavery
Speaker 1: crisis in the eighteen fifties, Lincoln oriented his whole political
Speaker 1: project around getting rid of slavery and making sure that
Speaker 1: the principle that it was right didn't spread, which was
Speaker 1: the principle of the South, and that all the means
Speaker 1: that we're at his disposal were in pursuit of that goal.
Speaker 1: So Tom's analogy is to try to unite conservatives these
Speaker 1: days behind Trump because he gets one thing right, at
Speaker 1: least at the very least, and that's the insanity of
Speaker 1: political correctness and its tyrannical nature. So Tom Tom thinks
Speaker 1: that we ought to keep that in view, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that ought to orient us and and put
Speaker 1: Trump than context and put the larger project of what
Speaker 1: should be the larger project of conservatism these days, UM
Speaker 1: within focus. So it might mean a set of policy
Speaker 1: priorities that that Conservative inc. Is not used to. It
Speaker 1: might mean allowing behind a man that they're uncomfortable with, UM,
Speaker 1: but the main goal should be kept in sight because really,
Speaker 1: if we allow multiculturalism and identity politics to become the
Speaker 1: dominant way of thinking in American national political life, than
Speaker 1: the game's up. Yeah, I'm just gonna quote from this
Speaker 1: article a little bit and then and then we'll come
Speaker 1: back and discuss more of it. Um quote. Trump's entire
Speaker 1: campaign was a defensive America. The election was fought not
Speaker 1: so much over policies, character, email service, or James Comey
Speaker 1: as it was over the meaning of America. Trump's wall
Speaker 1: was not so much about keeping foreigners out as it
Speaker 1: was keeping a commitment to a distinctive country, immigration, free trade,
Speaker 1: and foreign policy, what about protecting our own in these policies?
Speaker 1: Trump was raising the question who are we as a nation?
Speaker 1: He answered by being Trump a man made in America, unmistakeably,
Speaker 1: an unapologetically American, and like most of his fellow citizens,
Speaker 1: one who does not give a hoot what's Europeans or
Speaker 1: intellectuals think. And I picked that. I picked that paragraph
Speaker 1: or purpose because not only do I hold one might
Speaker 1: argue that I am a European intellectual, right, yeah, we
Speaker 1: give you a pastory him, you're our favorite European intellectual.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's that's that that makes it pretty
Speaker 1: clear cut. And and I suppose maybe we can reflect
Speaker 1: on on the impending midterm elections using that as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you've looked at this um and and
Speaker 1: you're typically out in in California, right, when you've looked
Speaker 1: at the last couple of months of campaigning, whether it's
Speaker 1: been Abanati and Stormy Daniels, whether it's been Breck Havanah,
Speaker 1: whether it's been migrant caravans, it all seems to be
Speaker 1: coming back to what Tom and Thomas Flingstein has written
Speaker 1: in this article right what it means to be America,
Speaker 1: What what America not just allows, but what also what
Speaker 1: it tolerates and does it really tolerate having its commander
Speaker 1: in chief, um, you know, having his genitalia brought up
Speaker 1: in in news articles, having you know, blow up dolls
Speaker 1: of him like dressed as a rat. Now, it tolerates
Speaker 1: it in the sense of freedom of speech and freedom
Speaker 1: of expression. But I think, to borrow the website name
Speaker 1: of yours, I think the American mind rejects that, right.
Speaker 1: I think they don't see it as fair play. They
Speaker 1: don't see it as fair game. Whereas the whereas the
Speaker 1: presidential campaign, as as this article suggests, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it did come down to and I said at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this radio show today, I quoted Lincoln in
Speaker 1: in defense of of this president, which is why I
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on. It comes down to what,
Speaker 1: you know, what this country looks like. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why, of course the migrant caravan issue is is
Speaker 1: looming so large as an issue, right, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. Um, you know, Trump's critics, the criticism of
Speaker 1: a migrant caravan, or criticism of foreigners who might not
Speaker 1: be suitable for Republican government as simply racist or white
Speaker 1: nationalists or other some other uh at hominum attack. Whereas
Speaker 1: you know, Clink Tom likes to point out in the article,
Speaker 1: and I think you can fide it in many of
Speaker 1: Trump's speeches as well, that what we're really talking about
Speaker 1: is a common citizenry sharing with shared borders, which has
Speaker 1: every right to determine the wh who new citizens ought
Speaker 1: to be and the criteria for admitting um people who
Speaker 1: want to join this political community. So in that sense,
Speaker 1: it's it's thoroughly American and goes back all the way
Speaker 1: to our theory of constitutionalism and declaration and the idea
Speaker 1: that we all consent together to form a government that
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with whiteness or or the
Speaker 1: nastier strains of of modern nationalist politics of the European variety. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys are no strangers to publishing controversial articles. In
Speaker 1: September of twent sixteen, you published a Michael Anton essay
Speaker 1: the Flight ninety three election. I just want to quote
Speaker 1: from that because it was really one of those pressian
Speaker 1: articles that left an indelible mark on on me and
Speaker 1: I think the the American intellectual mind that was trying
Speaker 1: to analyze what was going on there. I quote from
Speaker 1: from Michael Anton, who who wrote UM at the time
Speaker 1: under a pseudonym um and went on to serve on
Speaker 1: the National Security Council. He said in the opening of
Speaker 1: this article, six is a flight ninety three election. Charge
Speaker 1: the cockpit or you die. You may die anyway. You're
Speaker 1: the leader of your party. May make it into the
Speaker 1: cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane.
Speaker 1: There are no guarantees except one. If you don't try,
Speaker 1: death is certain to compound the metaphor. Hillary Clinton presidency
Speaker 1: is Russian roulette with a semi auto. With Trump, at
Speaker 1: least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances. Ryan,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys, you guys are really putting the
Speaker 1: putting the cat amongst the pigeons with this sort of thing. So,
Speaker 1: so just talk us through. I mean, Claremont is a
Speaker 1: is a fantastic institution of fantastic think tank UM and
Speaker 1: and and comes up with I mean, I've got to
Speaker 1: tell you some of their fellows and board members and
Speaker 1: so and so forth. I mean, one of my favorites
Speaker 1: being Professor John Marini, who I believe has a book
Speaker 1: coming out shortly about the administrative state, which I'm sort
Speaker 1: of obsessed by um. But but but when you do
Speaker 1: these things, I mean, do you sort of bulked? Do
Speaker 1: you think, oh, you know, we're going to be attacked
Speaker 1: by you know, the Weekly Standard or National Review or
Speaker 1: something like you said, conservative ink is gonna round on us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's always a concern, of course. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of us have realized, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Trump is a symptom, not a cause of the scrambling
Speaker 1: of our modern Postcold War politics. I think this was
Speaker 1: a and um, you know, the fusionism that emerged that
Speaker 1: sustained conservatism through the mid century and beyond had kind
Speaker 1: of stopped making sense in the post Cold War world.
Speaker 1: So this, this um disintermediation to use a fancy word
Speaker 1: that Matt Cotton that he has used before. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it was inevitable and we're just trying to think our
Speaker 1: way through it at times. You know, the body politics
Speaker 1: needs a little bit of shocking climics rather than just
Speaker 1: another scholarly book. So when the time calls for it,
Speaker 1: we we thought it was it was prudent to pursue
Speaker 1: a little more of a hot take. Spicy absolutely well,
Speaker 1: I honestly Ryan, I really appreciate it, and I really
Speaker 1: appreciate the the American Mind dot Org. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a relatively new publication that you guys have started out
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Speaker 1: I keep trying to point out to people not to
Speaker 1: demonize any one group or anyone ethnicity, but we keep
Speaker 1: thinking that the biggest terror threat of something else, some
Speaker 1: some some people who are marching, you know, towards the
Speaker 1: border like it's imminent. And when the last time they
Speaker 1: did this, a couple of hundred people came and they
Speaker 1: you know, most of them did get into the country,
Speaker 1: most of them tire, you know, got tuckered out before
Speaker 1: they even made it to the border. Um, so we
Speaker 1: have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror
Speaker 1: threat in this country is white men, most of them
Speaker 1: radicalized right up to the right, and we have to
Speaker 1: start doing something about them. There is no travel ban
Speaker 1: on them, There is no band on you know they
Speaker 1: had the Muslim band, there is no white guy band.
Speaker 1: So what do we do about that? We have to
Speaker 1: stop demonizing people, CNN's Don Lemon says, before going on
Speaker 1: to demonize an entire group of people, white people, white
Speaker 1: men who are radicalized to the right. He says, no,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't worry about thousands of unknown people flooding up
Speaker 1: through Central America onto the US southern But what do
Speaker 1: we should aim our specifically at white men? This despite
Speaker 1: several hundred attacks on Trump supporters over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years. This despite the fact that Antifa and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other left wing groups, by the way,
Speaker 1: protesting all around the country as is their right, but
Speaker 1: getting violent alongside it. Bike locks being thrown in people's faces,
Speaker 1: cars being smashed. You see it almost every day now.
Speaker 1: In fact, right now in Toronto there is a monk
Speaker 1: debate going on between David from and Stephen K. Bannon,
Speaker 1: who was on this show earlier and again six d
Speaker 1: Odd protesters out there of the same violent left wing
Speaker 1: ilk but never ever gets any attention. Well, I heard
Speaker 1: Don Lemon say that, and I, for those of you
Speaker 1: who don't know me, have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: background in counter terrorism. You know, I was raised in
Speaker 1: a Muslim family and and and turned my back on
Speaker 1: Islam and turned my attention to what was going on
Speaker 1: in the community that I was raised in. I went
Speaker 1: to university in London in Westminster. Jahadi John, the Islamic
Speaker 1: state executioner, was one year below me at that very
Speaker 1: same university. I remember being peer pressured by students, fellow
Speaker 1: students while I was at university who was saying, you know, brother,
Speaker 1: you're not good Muslim unless you come to an Islamic
Speaker 1: Society meeting. And they'd say it, and they'd prod me
Speaker 1: in the chest and they'd corn on me after seminars,
Speaker 1: and eventually I caved and I said, yes, certainly, I'll
Speaker 1: come along to something. And I remember walking down to
Speaker 1: that library building on Little Titchfield Street in London. I
Speaker 1: was with my friend Richard and he said come to
Speaker 1: the pub. I said, I've got a duck into this
Speaker 1: Islamic Society meeting. I promised my colleagues I'd go. And
Speaker 1: as I walked up the steps and Richard continued on
Speaker 1: his way down to the pub, a couple of guys
Speaker 1: came out of that is Society meeting. They stopped me
Speaker 1: on the steps and they said, no, you don't want
Speaker 1: to go in there. I said, why not? They said,
Speaker 1: they're showing videos of nine eleven and clapping and cheering,
Speaker 1: and I it was a pivotal moment for me, quite literally.
Speaker 1: I turned on my heel and I called out to
Speaker 1: Richard down the street. I said, Richard, he said, he
Speaker 1: said what I said. I'm coming down the pub. And
Speaker 1: when I tell that joke in public settings, I often
Speaker 1: add on the phrase at the end and I never left.
Speaker 1: But joke's a society, it's a you know, it's a
Speaker 1: deeply serious situation when we have a news anchor like
Speaker 1: Don Lemon denying the terror threat both from the left,
Speaker 1: which is rampant in Europe as well as in the
Speaker 1: United States, and from radical Islamic terrorism. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a new report out by a place that I used
Speaker 1: to work out in London called the Henry Jackson Society,
Speaker 1: named after an old Democratic senator in fact, Scoop Jackson.
Speaker 1: This report came out this week and what the reports
Speaker 1: shows is that the greatest share of attacks continued to
Speaker 1: be carried out by his Lamists in the West forty
Speaker 1: eight point five of all attacks in the West or
Speaker 1: his Lambist You know, the statistics around this a quite
Speaker 1: extraordinary and it and it makes me wonder how someone
Speaker 1: like Don Lemon can say what he says with a
Speaker 1: straight face, but how he can also not be called
Speaker 1: out on it by his colleagues. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be in pursuit of the truth, you know, of those
Speaker 1: terror attacks. Henry Jackson's Society report says is limister responsible
Speaker 1: for eighty four point two seven percent of killings and
Speaker 1: injuries in the West eighty four point to seven last year.
Speaker 1: And Don Lemon wants to demonize white men who support
Speaker 1: conservatism or President Trump. You know, the the extraordinary thing
Speaker 1: about this to me is not just what President Trump
Speaker 1: relayed earlier on today when he said, actually fake news
Speaker 1: leads to a lot of the violence, but it's something
Speaker 1: broader than that. You know, there are there are Muslims
Speaker 1: across the Western world. And I wrote a book in
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen called No Go Zones where I
Speaker 1: went to a lot of these Muslim dominated ghettos and
Speaker 1: I spoke to a lot of people, and yes, a
Speaker 1: majority in those Muslim neighborhoods want things that I should
Speaker 1: hope nobody out there wants Sharia law, female genital mutilation,
Speaker 1: all these awful things. But there are people within their
Speaker 1: midst who both want to shun that or leave it
Speaker 1: all together, or reform it from the inside out. And
Speaker 1: when people like Don Lemon say what Don Lemon says,
Speaker 1: it doesn't empower them, it doesn't help them, It doesn't
Speaker 1: help anyone. It's just a lie. Listen, You've been wonderful
Speaker 1: and I really want to thank the producers and thank
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton for having me cover on here today. My
Speaker 1: name is Raheem Kassam. You can follow me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Raheem Kassam, Facebook, Instagram, the works. You know this
Speaker 1: is this has been a great honor for me and
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just so great ahead of four
Speaker 1: days before the midterms, to be able to cover this
Speaker 1: wide range of topics, um with all of you guys
Speaker 1: out there. I I used to host the Serious XM
Speaker 1: radio show on the Patriot Channel a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and you just you just forget how what a wonderful
Speaker 1: medium broadcast is, especially radio, and it's, uh, it's it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you know, if the
Speaker 1: opportunity arises, I hope we can be back again soon.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, make sure you're always tuned into Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton's show and following him on Twitter and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth. So with that, ladies and gentlemen, with
Speaker 1: four days left to go, I employ you be aware
Speaker 1: of what's going on around you. Guys. You know, Tuesday's
Speaker 1: a very important day. Rahem Kassams running off