1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, American, You're a great American. Again the 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: buck Sexton shell begins. Remember now, welcome to the bucks 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. My name is Raheem Kassam, filling in four 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: bucks Sexton today. We're very glad to have you here 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: with us. There's a lot to talk about over the 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: next few hours. We've got some great guests on the 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: show for you today. But in case you don't know me, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: by wait, by means of introduction, um. I was the 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: former London editor for bright butt dot com, former chief 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: advisor to Nigel Farage or as you might know him, 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Mr Brexit, and I also dot around here and there 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: with the Claremont Institute, the Gatestone Institute, the Middle East Forum. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: You can find my work online at Raheem Kassam on 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Twitter and so on and so forth. But enough about me. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the fact that you have 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: just four days to go until some of the most 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: important elections these United States States have faced in a 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: very very long time. You know, the stakes are not 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: just high because I say so, or because the President 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: of the United States says so, or because Maxine Waters 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: or Oprah say so. The stakes are high because the 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: full force of the political, cultural, media, and financial elite 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: is being leveraged right now, the full might of the swamp, 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the full might of Hollywood, the full might of the 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: fake news industrial complex, the full might of foreign money 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: and power invested interests who have been reeling ever since 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the early hours of November nine, two thousand and sixteen. 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: The stakes are high because there's a migrant invasion careering 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: towards the US Southern Board and the left wants to 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: talk about Obamacare. The stakes are high because impeachment is 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: the word on the lip on the tips sorry of 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: every Democrats tongue, though they didn't utter it just yet 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: for fear of alienating independent, minded or swing voters. The 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: stakes are high because this president's agenda, arguably one of 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: the most sort of radical, rip roaring effective platforms in decades, 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: rests on whether or not Tuesday, the deplorable strike another 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: dagger into the heart of the establishment. You know, I'm 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: grateful and honored that in these last few days before 41 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: the midterm elections, Buck Sexton his team saw fit to 42 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: let me take the reins over for the next few hours, 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: and I employ you to listen closely to some of 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: the arguments and guests that will be having over the 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: course of this show. And I think it behooves all 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: of us who believe in in Western tradition and culture 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: and the founding principles of the United States, not just 48 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: to winbibe of such knowledge, but also, especially this weekend, 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: to spread it idly. You know, a citizen, as conceived 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: in ancient Greece was was somebody who saw the risks 51 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: of their lack of participation being so great that they 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: might become serfs or slaves as a result of their complacency. 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: And that remains true today. And what say you to 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: a voice from another nation mine speaking these words to 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you as you gear up to make that almighty important 56 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: choice on Tuesday. I mean, I'll tell you why it 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: means something to me the nation I was born and 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: raised in the United Kingdom. I mean, we had a 59 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: similarly extraordinary year into thousand and sixteen. We too, first 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: even delta hammer blow to the political establishment in the 61 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: form of Brexit on on June the twenty, two thousand 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: and sixteen. And I'll never forget this number, say, seventeen million, 63 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: four hundred and ten thousand, seven hundred and forty two 64 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: people voted to leave the supernational governing institutions of the 65 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: European Union and claim our sovereignty and our border controls 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: and our birthrights back. You know, despite a long and 67 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: rich history as both a global governing empire and a 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: strong independent nation, we Brits ended up this last forty 69 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: years in trapped in a political union where our laws 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: and our regulations and our sovereign decisions were taken in 71 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: a foreign capital by unelected bureaucrats. When thinking back on 72 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the election here in the United States, I often remarked 73 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: that it was through divine providence and the hard work 74 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and belief of so many ordinary Americans that you too 75 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: did not get dragged into a miasma like the European Union. 76 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: There was, and there still remains a massive chance of 77 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: this happening. The Transpacific Partnership Comic Alliance. Remember it was 78 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: heralded by Hillary Clinton as the gold standard of trade deals. Well, 79 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: that was actually modeled on the European Union, with its 80 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: commissars and commissioners. It's bureaucrats and buffoonish benefactors of the 81 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: centralization of power, away from the individual, away from the 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: demos the people you know. TPPE could have led the 83 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: United States down the dark and dangerous road to serfdom. 84 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: But what happened instead, America rejected the administrative state. President 85 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Trump even made it part of his plethora of campaign 86 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: slogans drain the swamp for decades and and the centuries 87 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: of erudite and prolific thinkers. President Trump managed to put 88 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: it into those three words, you know, perspective and simplicity, 89 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: the likes of which we need now more than ever 90 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: before in our lifetimes. A return of the revolutionary spirit, 91 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the birth this nation from my own. I think it's 92 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: also a weekend to dwell on some words that I 93 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: recently re read from another of your presidents, Abraham Lincoln. 94 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: In eight he said, of those revolutionary scenes in the 95 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: form of a husband, a father, a son, or a brother, 96 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: a living history was to be found in every family, 97 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: a history bearing the indubitable testimonies of its own authenticity, 98 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: in the limbs mangled, in the scars of wounds received 99 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: in the midst of the very scenes related A history 100 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: too that could be read and understood alike by all 101 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the wise and the ignorant, the learned and the unlearned. 102 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: But those histories are gone. They can be read no 103 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: more forever. They were a fortress of strength. But what 104 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: invading Foeman could never do, the silent artillery of time 105 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: has done the leveling of its walls. It's time to 106 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: fight back against that island artillery. Now we secure freedom 107 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: for another generation. I'm Maraheam Kassa. This is the Buck 108 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show again. We'll have some fantastic guests over the 109 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: course of the program for you, and the first of 110 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: which joining us now is none other than Stephen kay Bannon. 111 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: He is, as you know, the former White House Chief strategist, 112 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: former CEO of the Trump campaign, and I'm delighted now 113 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: to welcome Stephen K. Bann into the show. All right, 114 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the buck Sexton Show. My first guest here 115 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: today is Stephen K. Bannon, former senior advisor and campaign 116 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: CEO for President Donald J. Trump. Steve, thanks for joining 117 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: us here today, Raheem. I'm so glad to join you 118 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: in bucks Seston. Trum a huge fan of the show. 119 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: In buck Seston, I watched one of the HILP listen 120 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the show. But you know, most importantly, I'm trying to 121 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: track you down. You know, were since with me? Trumpet 122 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: War in today's Gateway Punish got that lead stories has 123 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: been seen over seven million times. I thought you did 124 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: camp to Hollywood. I couldn't tranking now. Well, I was 125 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna open with a question about Trumpet War, but full disclosure, 126 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I am in the movie made by Stephen cabin and 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: called Trumpet War. We're in the movie. You cork uh, 128 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Corey Rainard Jackson. The stars of the movie that you're in, 129 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I guess Joe Conta uh and others kind of steel, 130 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the kind of steel that you're one of the stars 131 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: of it. Don't don't modest, Just don't don't be modest. 132 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: So well, thank you very much. So I saw that 133 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: story about how many millions of people that that movie reached. 134 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit for the audience who hasn't 135 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: maybe seen it yet or has it sort of in 136 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: there to do list. Tell us a little bit about 137 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the movie, how you got to, you know, conceptualizing it, 138 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: and what impact you think has had on this on 139 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: this midterm election race. Well, look, you know, we're start 140 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: of conceiving the thing that nine months ago at the 141 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: beginning of year, thinking that in the closing days in September, October, November, 142 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: in the run up to the mid term, because it's 143 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: really going to be about President Trump, is nobody about 144 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: his agenda. It's essentially a referendum on Trump. And so 145 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: we made a film really to galvanize the Trump based 146 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: This is not really a conversion film, although we've got 147 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: tons of anecdotal information of people showing it to their 148 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: family and converting over to support President Trump. It was 149 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: really made as a film like I made in the 150 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: Tea Party year of two thousand ten, to motivate people 151 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: to get out to vote, to walk precincts. I felt 152 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: early on we lacked the burgenescing at the grassroots level, 153 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: that that the left hand I saw a lot of 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: urgency and energy in the Times Up movement, in the 155 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: Resistance and in Tom Styler's next in and I thought 156 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: it was very important to get us to stop leaving 157 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: on the shovel. So, you know, I wrote the script 158 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: structures that I've got a cast with you in the 159 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: court and other you know, just a terrific cast made 160 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the film. We distributed totally Free Go to Trumpet War 161 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Dot com I'm gonna just go to the Gateway party. 162 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: I think it's the lead story. Click on. You can 163 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: share it with anybody. Not your ard is our and 164 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes long. I think it just won the UH. 165 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: I think the Melbourne Film Festival two nights ago we 166 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: can found that one the best documentary. So we're very 167 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: proud of that. Yeah, yeah, I knows so as it's Australia, 168 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: so it's both left and right. It's just not a 169 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: conservative thing. And they told us that we want best Documentary. 170 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Of course I went best Director, but I don't need 171 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: to mention. Um, does that mean you have to go 172 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: to a stradiot to collected award? Now? No, Unfortunately they 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: already had the award I think I think it was 174 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: in New Mexico too at that time, because I've been 175 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: going around the country to these tough congressional districts and 176 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: talking about the Trump program and why it's important. What 177 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: we need the grass roots to focus on is that 178 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: this is all about President Trump. That you may be 179 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: voted for a rhino, maybe maybe accomplishment you're not totally 180 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: excited about. It doesn't matter. You gotta get out there, 181 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: You've gotta ring more balls. You've gotta work from banks. 182 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to drag people to the polls because 183 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: when he I think, coming down to the closing days, 184 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: this thing's gonna be you know, at the wire somebody 185 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: that witness. Well, this is what I wanted to ask 186 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: you about. You have been traveling around the country an 187 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: awful lot over the last couple of months. But where 188 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: do you think right now? I mean we're just four 189 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: days out at this point in time from the from 190 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: the mid term elections. Um, where do you think the 191 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, the key seats are. What have you seen 192 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: out there? And and and you know what should people 193 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: bearing in mind when they go to the ballot box 194 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Well, the battot bix. I think you've got 195 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: to focus on the Trump program because we lose the 196 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, They're going to not just immediately get 197 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: impeachment hearing, who are They're actually gonna have I think 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: fifty investigations and really grind the Trump agenda to a hold. 199 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: So for me, it's all on the line here. I 200 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: think the Senate, look, I think we had Nomatam before 201 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the pipe bombing incident and before this horrible massacre in 202 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: tragedy in Pittsburgh at the synagogue. I thought we had 203 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the momentum it both in the Senate and the House. 204 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: I still think the Senate looks safe and maybe pick 205 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: up a couple of two seats, um maybe even three. 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: I think the House is a real dog fight. I 207 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think you don't see a blue wave, but I 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: could see losing five seven seats. But I think we're 209 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats are vulnerable. I don't think they focused on 210 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: these seats that we could flip. Remember when him when 211 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: I first left the White House, you were around when 212 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: I had the meetings with some of the Republican Nostalgian guys. 213 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: At the time, they were talking about at eight seat 214 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: potential loss in the House of Representative. That was in 215 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: September of two thousand and seventeen. He saw that come 216 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: down the sixty to fifty I was on handity with 217 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: part days ago. I think it's at thirty or forty. 218 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere out around twenty five. But I 219 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: do think they're they're pickups. And I think some of 220 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: these key destis are you know. I think it's Mina Pennsylvania. 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I think it's fourteens are reached a redistrict to one, 222 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: but the ones in Minnesota, I think it's Minnesota won 223 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: seven and eight. Seven just came into play last night, Uh, Nevada, 224 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Nevada three and four, the Danny Tarkinian nights out there 225 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: and in the Hardy race, I think looked very competitive 226 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: Arizona one, Wendy Rogers, I think, so it looks very competitive. 227 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: So you've got I think you've got, you know, four 228 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,359 Speaker 1: or five potential pick potential pickups and maybe you know Pennsylvania. 229 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I thinks a lot, maybe you want or two uh 230 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: after that, and I think that can make I think 231 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: these pickups can actually make the difference to hold the house. 232 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: Right now, I think it's gonna be I think to 233 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: change every day. The opposition is going in full force, 234 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: the raising tons of money, a lot of it small 235 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: donor uh. And you never know how something like a 236 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: working a cruise are gonna play out in Texas that 237 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: will have a huge impact on Culverson and sessions and 238 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: uh internally hurt. So there's things in play. I think 239 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: for your audience and for buck sexes, adent just half 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: to engage. It's not too late to go in and 241 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: make phone calls. At a phone bank. It's not too 242 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: late to hit with a donation, but it most importantly, 243 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: it's not too late to get all your friends, all 244 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: your colleagues, everybody you know out to vote if you 245 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: want to support the Trump agenda. To me, it's very 246 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: clear you just gotta get people out to vote. We're 247 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: speaking with Stephen cabot In, the former White House Chief 248 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: strategist and Trump campaign CEO Steve so this weekend you're saying, 249 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is not the time to be catching up with your 250 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: binge watching Netflix. You know, I think it's the left 251 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: is you know, the left got something about President Trump 252 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: that it took uh, the Republicans now a while to 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: catch up. But they understand he's a transformative president in 254 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: a historic figure. You know, he's in their head like 255 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: a cough Gass novel. And the reasons they know that 256 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Trump is gonna be in their personal lives twenty and 257 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: thirty years from now. And it's just not the federal 258 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Judiciary's just not. It's not these hunted forty subtle judges 259 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: and some it's much deeper than that. It's what he's doing. 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: Economic nationalism. That's what he's doing. American first nationalist critic. 261 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Most importantly, I think for the left, it's what he's 262 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: going to deconstruction administrative state, which is really taking this 263 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: a lot levias in the park, you know, brick by brick, 264 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: and I think they understand that's gonna have huge implications. 265 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: So they understand he's in their lives and they want 266 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: him out, and that's why they put so much energy 267 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: so much. Look, I disagree that ideology. I admire, uh, 268 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: their grit and their hustle. They have done it like 269 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: the Key Party in two thousand and ten. If they 270 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: do happen to have a winning night on on Tuesday, 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: it's because they went out and walk pretty since early. 272 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: It's definitely not too like this is we've got really, 273 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: we've got four days. You've got you Thurday Sunday evening 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: at Friday. I mean we get we get time. You 275 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: get time to get out and get time to go 276 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: to a campaign headquarters. There's tons of independent ex finishers 277 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: out there. They're setting up phone banks and people walking 278 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: neighborhoods to know if if you want the back President 279 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign, you know, binge watching Netflix this weekend is 280 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: not a good news of your time and um and 281 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: we'll be talking to other guests on the over the 282 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: course of the show. Dr Sebastian Gorga will be joining us. 283 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: What we're talking about the Iran sanctions and so on 284 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: and so forth. Just just lastly, Steve, what have you 285 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about what you're doing right now 286 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: because you're you're you're actually in Toronto, am I right? Uh? 287 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Prepping for a very big debate. Yeah, month debate and 288 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: nice myself as as David from Uh it's about his 289 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: populism gonna be replaced the liver order as the politics 290 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: of the future. Really honored to be up here that month. 291 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: People are obviously very class. I think it's thirty hundred 292 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: seat auditorium. They told me a day that because have 293 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: sold like fifteen thousand of tickets, so they said, had 294 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: tremendous demand. Obviously a number of people are not excited 295 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: about that, some protesters, but that's their their right and 296 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: I appreciated that out there. Uh. From As, I've known 297 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: David for a long time using my he was in 298 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: Generation zero. Uh, he was a star before You Were Human, 299 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: one of my films. So that at the financial collapse, 300 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: so um, now I don't want to end up where 301 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: David from is. I certainly don't want to end up 302 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: on the other side of a platform against you. No, no, no, 303 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: there's any great job. Tomorrow, I'm in Virginia. We're trying 304 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to get to North Carolina in Pennsylvania and on Sunday 305 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: and Monday, so we'll be out. I'll be doing you know, 306 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: these small events. What I tried to do was going 307 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: in really pump up grand roots leaders and then maybe 308 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: laying us some other times to screen the film. So 309 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: we're still pulling some stuff together. But if you go 310 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: to our website Trumpet War, or if you go Citizens 311 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: of the American Republic c O a R Core, it's our, 312 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: not some profitors. I'll get the n g O and 313 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: uh it's you. You know, just go there, you'll find 314 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: it all the ways information where we're gonna be. But 315 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll be back in the States late tonight after this 316 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: and back on the campaign trail. Just got back from 317 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, Kansas, uh, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas on 318 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: a swing to see these uh, these tough districts. Look, 319 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: it's all about the Trump based. If the Trump base 320 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: turns out, things are going to be fine. If we 321 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: can't get the base out, then we may suffer when 322 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: may lose the House. And I will just say it, 323 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: that would be terrible for President Trump's agenda. Well, to 324 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: quote a British Member of Parliament, George Galloway, when he 325 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: was speaking about Saddam Maseine, I salute your indefatigability, sir, 326 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for being the film. And hey, 327 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: when he once you tweeted out, however you get to 328 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: see you got all this Twitter fall, put it up 329 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I have been, I have been. I'll do 330 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: it again. I'll do it again tonight. We want to 331 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: be a ten minute at the end of the weekend, 332 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: and I want to get the fifteen minute by by 333 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: election night. Now, don't know forget that We're gonna put 334 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: forth a big effort. But just go to the Gateway 335 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: Pundit or go to more important to go to Rehee's 336 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Twitter feat. There you go. That's the that's the that's 337 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: the first and only time Steven's endorsed by Twitter feed. Hey, 338 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: take care, good luck on the show today. Thanks so much. 339 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: Stephen K. Bann and former White House Chief strategist and 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Trump campaign CEO, also the former head of my old 341 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: stable brightbart dot com. Stephen k Ban, and thank you 342 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: very much. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm 343 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: raheam because I'm filling in for bucks Sexton today. I'm 344 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: pleased to have on the line a good friend of mine, 345 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: a former deputy director in the Commerce Department. A trumpet pointee, 346 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: Chris Garcia joins us on the line now, Chris, welcome 347 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: to the show. We're a good to be on. Chris. 348 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, there are but four days now until the 349 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: midterm elections, and I suppose there are those in the 350 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: Democrat Party who want people to go into those polling 351 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: booths on Tuesday and talk about either or think about healthcare, 352 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: or think about a migrant caravan, or maybe not think 353 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: about a migrant caravan, depending on you know, how they 354 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: managed to spin it over over the weekend. Um. But 355 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: the big one for me seems to be and from 356 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: all the people I'm talking to, seems to be, well, actually, 357 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: people have money in their pockets again, people have jobs 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: where they couldn't have them before. You know, there is 359 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: an economic legacy that is already in place. But two 360 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: years into this administration, how high up the chain do 361 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: you think Economics is going to be on Tuesday, and 362 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: just walk us through a little bit of what you 363 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: think the the you know, the achievements of this administration 364 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: have been so far and perhaps even where it's fallen down, 365 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: if there's anything that you might have done differently, or 366 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: there anything that you know still remains to be done, 367 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's a that's a great question about differently 368 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: or White House advisors. The President did one thing that 369 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: was probably the foundation, I'll say, from when we're experiencing 370 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: such robust economic growth. Number One, he deregulated more than 371 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: any previous president had in history, where Putting Obama was 372 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: I think in lenting something like two ordered fifty billion 373 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: dollars new regulations. In his first two years, President Trump 374 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: has cut twenty three billion dollars in regulations. UH. That 375 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: was coupled with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, more 376 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: money in consumers pockets and American workers pockets and American 377 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: businesses operating accounts. That to groom and expand has led 378 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: to a huge, huge, We're at three percent GDP growth 379 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: now on track for three percent GDP growth throughout the year. UH, 380 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: and that's going to be the first time that it 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: was ever done since two thousand and five. So the 382 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: president knew what we all know on the supply side 383 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: of economics, all of the three traders and three more marketers, uh, 384 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: know that you have to have a robust economic environment, 385 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: in an environment that's conducive to entrepreneurship and and growth 386 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: and expansion in order to be able to provide for 387 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the nation's defense, to provide for the social programs that exists. 388 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: So the President came to office into the right thing 389 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: right away, and that's why we're experienced this phenomenal growth. 390 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Now how that plays to the mid terms, unfortunately, because 391 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: the rhetoric has been so devisive. Uh, you know, there 392 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: there are a variety of distractions that are kept trying 393 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: to take I would say American voters minds off of 394 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the successes that the president has realized. But that's something 395 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: that we cannot overlook. The economic successes put more money 396 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: in americans pockets, has allowed businesses to grow and expand. Uh. 397 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: And frankly, uh, we will see most more of them 398 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: if we continue to have a Republican Congress. Chris, what 399 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: do you say to the critics of this um this 400 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: admitted stration's trade policy. You know, there are there are 401 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: sort of the Paul Krugman's of the world all the 402 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: way over to the the the hard free market rights 403 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: saying that actually, you know, tariffs and an economic war 404 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: with China is going to cause more problems for people. 405 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: It's going to drive consumer prices up. It's going to 406 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: lock us into this scenario of of of tip fit 407 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: tat over the next ten or fifteen years. Uh. They 408 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: say this country cannot afford it, and and and that 409 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: even if it could, the jobs aren't coming back anyway. 410 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: What do you what do you say to something like that? Well, 411 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: let's break down why the president has slapped tariffs on 412 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: some of our trading partners in the first place. The 413 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: biggest co operate has been China. China since joining, since 414 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: joining the World Trade Organization, and two other than one 415 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: has abused the privilege of being one of the free 416 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: trade partners. And I say free trade in quotations because 417 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: it's been anything but free. China has lied that they've stolen, 418 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: they've cheated, they've manipulated their currency, they've unfairly subsidized industries 419 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: and dumped products like stealing aluminum to make it impossible 420 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: for American consumers to American companies and UH and workers 421 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: to compete UM. The There was recently a study that 422 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: was just released UH concerning the loss of three point 423 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: four million American manufacturing jobs since two thousand and one 424 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: because of these practices that China has has implemented. Now 425 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the President is saying to China very simply cut this out. UH. 426 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: Actually engage in free trade and reciprocal trade without subsidizing 427 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: and without slapping tarraps on US products being imported to China. 428 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Otherwise we'll slap tarraups. Now, China has much more to 429 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: lose if they don't comply. They have really no replacement. 430 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: They have no alternative to the robust consumer base, whereas 431 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: the United States has. They we have much UH we're 432 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: working with, first of all, a much greater position of 433 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: strength because of the robust economy. China's economy is on 434 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: the downturn. But we also can diversify our supply chain 435 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: away from China. And I think what President Trump has 436 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: done is twofold number one. He's striking fairer and more 437 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: reciprocal trade agreements. When we saw that with the new 438 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: napative that was struck the U S m c A. 439 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: But Secondly, he's reorienting the supply chain away from China, 440 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: away from South East Asia, and back to North America. 441 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: And that's a huge win for American workers. So anyway, 442 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you slife that American companies and American workers are now 443 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: more competitive and they'll have frankly, a much uh much 444 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: a better chance to compete fairly and openly on the 445 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: global market thanks to these policies adopted a further than Trump. 446 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: You know, I UM. I attended a book launched by 447 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: by Stephen Moore UM in New York earlier this week, 448 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: and and he told me an interesting anecdote. In fact, 449 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: told the room an interesting anecdote. So I don't think 450 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: I'm preaching any trust in in in relaying this. But 451 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: when when the economic advisory team on the UM on 452 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: the transition first said to him, first said to the 453 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: President elect look or or or reiterated what they've been 454 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: saying throughout the campaign. Look, you know, we need to 455 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: have a competitive corporate tax environment because there are other 456 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: nations out there with corporate rates and we need to 457 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: go down to that as well. And apparently President Trump's 458 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: first reaction was absolutely not I want a fifteen percent 459 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: rate and and you know that I think speak I 460 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: think that it speaks to his instinct Number one, of course, 461 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: it's the art of the deal, right, if you go 462 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: for fifteen, you're gonna get twenty, If you go over 463 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: to twenty, you're gonna get twenty five, so on and 464 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: so forth. But it also speaks to his instincts about 465 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, letting that, letting that sort of beast of 466 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: American business, medium small and medium sized business, specifically letting 467 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: it raw. And I don't think that's something that that well, 468 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: certainly something that we haven't seen in Europe for a 469 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: very long time. And it's something that I think, you know, 470 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: America with the Obama you didn't build that mentality hadn't 471 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: seen for a very long time. What do you think 472 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: it does to the psyche of of business owners? And 473 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: what do you think it does to the to the 474 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: morale of the country that you've now got this this 475 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, I'm not gonna say roaring 476 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: economy just yet, but you have you know, the wheels 477 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: are in motion. The stock market is you know, broad, 478 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: the broad trend is up. What is what is that 479 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: doing to the country as you see it out there? 480 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Chris well, no, you make a very good point. It's 481 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: about consumer sentiment, consumer confidence, and business optimism. We're seeing 482 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: all time highs, record highs in both of those measures 483 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: because of President Frankly that now is standing up for 484 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: American workers and consumers and American businesses, you know, the 485 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: war as Larry Cuddler likes his profits, and the war 486 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: on private enterprise and the war on corporations and businesses 487 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: is over, provided that they adopt the America First Agenda, 488 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: which President Trump says, Hey, listen, if you're going to 489 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: be a US company, UM, you've got to pick a side. 490 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: Are you going to be, you know, supporting American workers 491 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: and growing and expanding and scaling and building new factories 492 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: in the United States, or he's gonna you know, build 493 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: overseason in China or or or or Mexico or Canada. Uh. 494 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: And so we saw the President really strike these deals 495 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: with these uh, with these corporations early on that returned 496 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: many of these uh, these plants that had that that 497 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: had vanished over the years because of the tough regulatory environment, 498 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: because of the tough uh you know, tax environment. Uh. 499 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: And now we've got, as I said earlier, manufacturing jobs. 500 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: They're coming back. We've got four point five million jobs 501 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: that are created since the president was elected, and you've 502 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: got I think four hundred fifty thousand manufacturing jobs something 503 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: would like that. So so this is this is a 504 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: real I mean, all you have to do is look 505 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: at the facts. Look at the facts. You can't argue 506 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: with the facts. But that optimism, that business confidence, that 507 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: consumer confidence, you know, that's the real measure of how 508 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: well these policies are working. Um. But frankly, this is 509 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: this is going to come to an end. It's going 510 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: to come to a screeching hall. Uh. If we have 511 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: these from these leftist uh you know, I would even 512 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: say quasi socialists, some are outright socialist. Uh. You know, 513 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: democratic candidates that are that are running for office, and 514 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: we get if we get them elected, if we hand 515 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: control of the House of Representatives to Democrats, you can 516 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: count and you can kiss all of this progress. Goodbye, 517 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: Stark stark message there, Chris Gussie. I'm afraid we have 518 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: to leave it there. I could ask you for for 519 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: days and days about you know what it what it 520 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: would pretend, um, if the if the House is lost 521 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: on on Tuesday, But we'll have to leave it there 522 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: for now more another time, former Deputy director in the 523 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Department of Commerce, Chris Garcia, thank you very much for 524 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: joining us here on the buck Sexton Show. So it's 525 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Well that was very interesting stuff there from 526 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: Chris Garcia. This is the buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahemkasam 527 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: fan again four Bucks Sexton today. We'll be right back 528 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: all of this. For a group of people, a lot 529 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: of whom are mothers and children, who posed no imminent 530 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: threat to the United States called us an invasion. It 531 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: might be the most pathetic invasion of a country in 532 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: world history, if if this were actually an invasion, But 533 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: of course it's not. Presidents sending troops to the border 534 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: to deal with a caravan that hasn't proven to be violent. 535 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Stop sending their monsters. They're more mothers than monsters. Don't 536 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: say it. Why don't any of you say that? You know, 537 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: when you listen to that, especially when the mainstream media, 538 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: the establishment media, are referring to the migrant caravans, is 539 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: not an invasion or the worst invasion in history, And 540 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: then you reconcile it with with you know, just a 541 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: couple of a couple of years ago, a couple of 542 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: hundred troops from Russia found their way into into Crimea. 543 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: And remember the world rightly called that an invasion. Well, 544 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: now you have thousands upon thousands of people who are 545 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: going to be amassing at the US southern border in 546 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: the next coup of the days, and that's not an invasion. 547 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: You know. I've done my own digging into this migrant 548 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: caravan as it's called. I mean, it's it's it's not 549 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: a caravan, it's it's a it's a march of a 550 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: lot of people out there with with who are hurling 551 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: rocks at helicopters, who are being arrested in the countries 552 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: that they're going through because of criminal activity. The people 553 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: on the caravan themselves, the people marching towards you a 554 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: southern border, are also reporting mass criminality within their own ranks. 555 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: When local news outlets go and speak to them, and 556 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: when that comes itself up through Central America, when the 557 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: news filters up and it goes through the establishment media filters, 558 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: it comes out as what you've just heard, don't worry 559 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: about these guys. Everything's fine there, mothers, it's all mothers. Listen, 560 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. Go go online right now. Go 561 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter right now and all you need to do. 562 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: In fact, it's on my Twitter feed, just to give 563 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: myself a little plug. Go on my Twitter at Raheem Kassam, 564 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: right and you can see a video that clearly shows 565 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: not just people hurling rocks into crowds and at helicopters, 566 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: but people with molotov cocktails. This is this, These are 567 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: the people we're just supposed to be like, oh, yeah, fine, 568 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, come to the southern border. We'll figure it 569 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: out when you get here. That's that's that's all well 570 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: and good. We'll we'll just you know, we'll process all 571 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: of the asylum claims, you know, allow it to just 572 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: happen freely. And what does it do? What would that 573 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: approach do, which is, by the way, the approach that 574 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: everyone is telling us to take, everyone on the left 575 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: and in the political establishment, that's what they're telling the 576 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: President of the United States to do. Let them arrive 577 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: and process their asylum claims. Don't try and dissuade them, 578 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: don't try and identify who they are. Don't try and 579 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: identify criminality or even god forbid, terrorism coming up through 580 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: that southern border. Now just wait, just wait, hold your 581 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: fire wrong. This president has it right. And I'll tell 582 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: you as now, I don't call myself this very often 583 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: are European as a European And thank goodness, we are 584 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: leaving the European Union because what happened those years going 585 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: up to you remember the big migrant crisis in Europe. 586 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: You remember in twenty fift when Angela Merkel, who has 587 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: now been beating about beating about the ballot box in Germany, 588 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: when she welcomed two million people into the continent, didn't 589 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: really consult with anyone else, didn't ask, you know, the French, 590 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: or the British, or the Hungarians or the Austrians what 591 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: they thought. No, she said, come one, come all, don't 592 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: worry about it. We believe you, we believe your stories. 593 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: And it turned out what It turned out that you 594 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: had hundreds of thousands of people who were not asylum 595 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: seekers or fleeing war or poverty stricken. They were just 596 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: economic migrants. Now, I don't have a problem with economic migration. 597 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: I suspect nobody has a problem with economic migration as 598 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: long as it's legal, as long as it falls within 599 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: the boundaries that are set by the nation's state, which 600 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: has its own borders to control, and has its own 601 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: policies and has its own president, the hands of which 602 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: within lay the whole power to set immigration policy. Correct 603 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, I'm not, but that's not what 604 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Merkel did. And what happened was the first year that 605 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: it started, you know, really started back in twelve, couple 606 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: of thousand people to start with. Then it became tens 607 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: of thousands of people. Then it became hundreds of thousands 608 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: of people by in the high in the mid to 609 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: high hundreds of thousands and twenty probably, I mean, you know, 610 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: they lost count. There are there are estimates that go 611 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: from eight hundred thousand all the way up to two million. 612 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that, you know, I'll take 613 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: a conservative estimate, but I won't take a stupidly low estimate. 614 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: There was over there was definitely over one point two 615 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: million people that made their way into Europe. And why 616 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: because they were made to feel like anybody could come, 617 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: that the rule of law was out the window. The 618 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: world all had open borders now. And that's exactly the 619 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: same mantra, it's exactly the same mentality that you're seeing 620 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: that you're hearing from that montage. We just played. It's 621 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. So take it from me, as somebody 622 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: who has already watched the continent. I come from being 623 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: ravaged by this kind of stupidity. This you know, let's 624 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: all feel really nice about ourselves because there's a baby 625 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: in a picture. You remember they did that during the 626 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: European crisis as well. They put that young boy, Alan 627 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Curdie died on the beach because of human traffickers, by 628 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: the way, who were making money off that route. They 629 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: put him on the front page of every single newspaper 630 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: to make me and you and everyone else feel bad. 631 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: But what was the real case there? The real case 632 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: there was criminality. The real case there was crossing borders 633 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: when you shouldn't. The real case there was human traffickers 634 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: making cash of human beings. And I dare say, we're 635 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: seeing that again here. We're seeing that in the United States, 636 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: We're seeing that on your southern border. So take it 637 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: from me. I looked into this migrant caravan at length. 638 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: I've looked into who the groups are, where their money 639 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: is coming from. 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That's Black Rifle Coffee dot com 665 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: slash Buck for fifteen percent off Black Rifle Coffee dot 666 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: com slash Buck. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. 667 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Kassam filling in for Buck Sexton today as 668 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: he is, I believe interviewing the vice president in Kansas 669 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: much more important job to do for Buck today. But 670 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: he's left He's left you in my capable hands or 671 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: me and your capable hands. Perhaps. Um. We we have 672 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: so much to talk about, and we spend the first 673 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: time we're talking about the midterm elections. But there's there's 674 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: there's other things going on in the world and other 675 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: things that need addressing too. And you know, this president 676 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: isn't stopping with the business of of of running a 677 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: country and with the business of being an international statesman, 678 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: which you know, whether whether they like it or not, 679 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: all of these world leaders actually have to be and 680 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: and and do the job that comes with it. Um. 681 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: And one of those jobs is of course seeing off 682 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: threats to the U s. Homeland and Barack Obama. I 683 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: have to say, I feel like I tread to think 684 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: how you guys would put it, but I feel like 685 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: didn't do a particularly good job of that, especially when 686 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: it came to a little country we call Iran. UM. 687 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: I have a guest on the line now, a good 688 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: friend of mine who was a senior writer at the 689 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Washington Free Beacon, who's gonna unpack some of this for us, 690 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: because today the Trump administration UM announced that it was 691 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: going to reimpose all the Iran sanctions that were lifted 692 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: by President Obama. Adam Credo joins us on the line 693 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: to discuss Adam, thanks for joining us, my pleasure. Thanks 694 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: for having me, Boddy. Hey, Adam, It's it's strange you're 695 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: you're on the you're on the campaign trail and I'm 696 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: in an office in d C. Today as we've switched roles. 697 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: Well here we certainly have. I'm in southern Florida, beautiful 698 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: southern Florida. It's hot and humid. Well, I hope you're 699 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying yourself and topping up your hand. 700 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: But I suspect that you're you're bashing away at the 701 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: keyboard most of the time, given the given the frequency 702 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: of the news, and and this is really your beat, right, 703 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: the Iran stuff. I mean, I don't know a better 704 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: reporter out there, ladies and gentlemen on this issue. Um, 705 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: So if you're not following Adam's work, He's going to 706 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: give you chapter and verse on why you should by 707 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: flexing his knowledge. Right now, Adam, what what is going on? 708 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: Why this timing? Um? Is this is this throwing the 709 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: baby out with the bath water? Well, there are a 710 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: couple of things happening here and it's it's complicated, so 711 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: so I want to try to be as careful as 712 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: I can. The Trump administration on Monday is going to 713 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: reimpose most of the sanctions that were lifted by the 714 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: Obama administration when they ain't that nuclear deal, the j 715 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: c p o A or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. Um. Essentially, 716 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: are you telling me that CNN's headline is lying to 717 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: me the senns has all sanctions. Yeah, that's not true. 718 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: That's the White Houses line, and they're they're misleading quite 719 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. Now, I report, uh late yesterday, only 720 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: promised publicly, but certainly also privately to reporters and other 721 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: experts in Washington, d C. Who kind of tracked this 722 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: issue closely. Iran is going to be allowed to remain 723 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: connected to SWIFT. That's the international banking system. It facilitates 724 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: cross border transactions. This has been a key financial lifeline 725 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: for TROD. It's kept business open with Europe. UH. The 726 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: administration for a time was saying we're not going to 727 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: allow this anymore because Iran also uses Swift for funding 728 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: it's terror operations. It's a big source of income for 729 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: the regime over there, and they were first signally a 730 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: total disconnect, which would have jibed with what Republicans in 731 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: Congress and certainly people like John Bolton were saying outside 732 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: of the administration. Now from inside the administration, they reversed 733 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: on that. That came after pressure from European allies, particularly Germany, 734 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: France and the Brits Um, who want to keep doing 735 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: business with a RAM. They want to keep the lines open, 736 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: so this is kind of a concession to them. The 737 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: other concession comes on the front of oil, one of 738 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: the key sanctions that really could choke off UH the 739 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: Iranian economy, and further kind of push a poppel which 740 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are looking for to 741 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: see that regime booted out because of the weak economy. Uh. 742 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: Instead they're issuing oil waivers. At least eight countries are 743 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: set to get these waivers. They last about a hundred 744 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: and eighty days. So as opposed to what the President, 745 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: John Bolton and this eighth Department was saying just a 746 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: month or a month and a half ago, we're actually 747 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: granting waivers to countries they can keep importing Iranian crude 748 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 1: oil and the imports will not reach zero. As many 749 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 1: Iran Hawks and others in Congress, UH, we're looking for those. 750 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: So this is UH created a bit of outrage. After 751 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: I ran my piece yesterday, I heard there was a 752 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: lot of um back and forth between Congress, the State Department, 753 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: the administration. John Bullton UH pulled the National Security Council, 754 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: the White House National Security Council off of a call 755 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: that was scheduled for just earlier today and left um 756 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: just Secretary of State Pompeo and Treasury Secretary now sent 757 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 1: to deal with it. So I think that signals level 758 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: of frustration that's coming from some of the harder line 759 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: elements in the administration and on Capitol Hill. But I 760 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: can say in totality, these sanctions are much stronger than 761 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: what the Obama administration was pushing for, which was essentially 762 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: opening up a Ran to the globe. So from that side, 763 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: it's good. But I think you're going to hear from 764 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: a rand hawks there's still away to go. And off 765 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: of that, Senator Cruizes working on a bill right now. 766 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: It's not quite soup, but it will be in the 767 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: coming weeks, and that's going to mandate the president fully 768 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: disconnect Iran from the Swift banking system. Well, so this 769 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: is this was gonna be my next question for you. Um, 770 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the White House hasn't been 771 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: completely honest with by saying all sanctions, because of course 772 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: you have these these little carve outs. Um. But I 773 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: suppose that what they're doing is and I saw your 774 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: story yesterday by the way, I mean, Adam Credo, ladies 775 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: gentlemen had this up before anybody else, and had the 776 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: intel on this before anybody else. Um on this story, 777 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: and and yesterday ran the headline on the on the 778 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: Freebeacon dot com. Trump admin poised to cave on Iran sanctions. 779 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna push back a bit on on on that, 780 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: given that you gave me that You're not the only 781 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: one from But the difference is I don't work at 782 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah. Um, well, you know, cave isn't 783 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: cave a bit of a strong word like I mean, 784 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: like you say, there are obviously a little bit here 785 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: and a little bit there. Maybe I don't know this 786 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: saving saving their powder for another another flash point, or 787 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: to dangle damically and sword over the heads um of 788 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: the Iranians at another another juncture, and maybe swift is 789 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: a part of that, or do you believe that there 790 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: is something more nefarious at play here? Like who has 791 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: got to this policy? Why did it change? Why did 792 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: people like John Bolton, who appears to be you know, 793 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: very well uh empowered within the administration not get his 794 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: way on this? Yeah? Like like most things, I think 795 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: it's a combination of both the points you mentioned. Um, 796 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you in covering this closely, and I've 797 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: been lighting it for two or three months now, the 798 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: Europeans um just have been very very tough on this administration, 799 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: and the people handling talks on the half of Trump 800 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: appear to have sympathies to that European stands that Iran 801 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: should remain open for business, that countries should be allowed 802 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: to continue importing oil. And I think they've brought those 803 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: concerns back to the US and that's what we've seen 804 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: with the States departments. So the reason I use the 805 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: word cave, and I think it is actually a very 806 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: fair way to put it, is because we went in 807 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: with this tough line. This is what the President has 808 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: asked for, this is what N. S. A. Bolton has 809 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: asked for, and after months of negotiations, they walked that back. 810 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: As on diplomat put it to me yesterday, this is 811 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: not what the president asked for. This is not what 812 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: he instructed the administration to do. They talk about a 813 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: maximum pressure campaign on a ran and this is not 814 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 1: maximum pressure. More can be done. Now, it's certainly fair 815 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: to also praise them for these moves. Yes, they are 816 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: reimposing a series of tough sanctions that will impact ranium banks, 817 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: that will impact oil energy, these kinds of things. But 818 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: then there are other issues you look at of little 819 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: nuclear cooperation. Essentially, Iran is going to be allowed to 820 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: continue building, constructing, and working with Russia and others on 821 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: nuclear reactors that gives you nuclear byproducts such as heavy water, 822 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: which can be used to power a nuclear weapon. These 823 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: small concessions mean something, and it sent a signal to 824 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: Tehran um that the Europeans are going to provide them 825 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: a lifeline. And that's exactly what they've done, and it 826 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: seems that in part that's what they've convinced this administration 827 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: to do. Now we have waivers for a hundred and 828 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: eighty days. I'm told now that all In and the 829 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: NFC in the coming months are gonna push very hard 830 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: for swift and sanctions and oil all these reductions to 831 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: be brought fully down on Iran. But it's a waiting 832 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: game now. It's a matter of again if they can 833 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: win that position that the President is advocated. Once again, 834 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: we're speaking with Adam Creta, Senior Rice at the Washington Freebeacon. 835 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm Rhinkasam. This is the Buck Sexton Show. And just 836 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: to add another name into that mix, Donald Trump has 837 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: tweeted today Adam a meme um based on Game of Thrones. 838 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I think you've you've seen it? 839 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Great show? Yeah, I love it. 840 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: I read all the books too. I've I've I can't 841 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: read so UM, I've seen it. It says sanctions are 842 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: coming November five, and it's a stock picture of you 843 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: seen this, Yeah, like the winter is coming type of thing. Yeah, 844 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: I did see this meme, UM, and it's good. Look 845 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: the White House. UM. From what I've heard today, not 846 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: just from sources in Congress, and these are people that 847 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: have kind of been battling the administration on this, they're 848 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: they're uh somewhat more to the right than the administration 849 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: on the Iran sanctions. And I've also heard it from 850 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: US officials abroad who are working with the Europeans that yeah, 851 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: sanctions are coming, they will be reimposed, but there are 852 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: multiple loopholes. After me and others last night reported these 853 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: latest concessions to Iran UM, it appears the White House 854 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: canceled a series of background briefings for UM experts and 855 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: other kind of administration validators. Uh. Like I said, Bolton 856 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: took himself off of the call. So there's there's fear. 857 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: They're scared, they feel like they're losing the narrative, and 858 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: I think means are a good way to kind of 859 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: get them back on track with that. So so that's 860 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: kind of my read on that. Well, and we've only 861 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left here, UM, but I'd 862 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: love to ask you about the fact that you're in Florida, 863 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: UM and covering I know, the gubernatorial race Andrew Gillim's 864 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: ties to radical anti Israel groups. Can you tell us 865 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: a little bit about that in just a couple of minutes. Yeah. Absolutely. 866 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: Gilham is running against Bonta Santis, a former member of 867 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: Congress who resigned his seat. Uh to Santis, a lawmaker 868 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: I've worked with for years, very strong on foreign policy, 869 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: very pro Israel, very anti Iran. Gilham is pretty much 870 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: the complete opposite. Former mayor of Tallahassee, he's under investigation 871 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: for corruption he uh took free gifts from an undercover 872 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: FBI agent, And in addition to this, like I reported, 873 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: he has ties to numerous left wing George Sorrow's flendid 874 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: groups that very much advocated anti Israel position, that is, 875 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: um advocating in favor of boycotts of Israel. The BDS movement, 876 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: which we all know is very uh anti Semitic and 877 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: quite Vitch relic in the way they described the Jewish state, 878 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: and h Gilian has tried to run away from these ties, 879 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: but I think they're cropping up and they seem to 880 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: be chasing him on the campaign trail. UM. I was 881 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: at a rally just a couple of days ago where 882 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: Trump came and rallied for de Santis and Rick Scott, 883 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: who is also running against Bill Nelson, and discussed these things, 884 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: and um, from the reaction of the crowd, I think 885 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,959 Speaker 1: they're getting the message now. Whether that translates to votes, 886 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: it's unclear. I think the Santis is viewed right now 887 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: a little bit as an underdog, but that could tie 888 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: you up in the next couple of days. I think, Well, 889 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm great. I wish we had more time, but really, 890 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much for going us from from Florida. 891 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: We'll see you when you get back to Washington, d C. 892 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: I owe you. It is your birthday today, right, it's 893 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: my birthday today. Happy birthday to you. I owe you're 894 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: a big birthday Steak, Adam Credo, Western Freebecan. Thank you 895 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: very much. This is the Buck Sexton Show. 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We're much tougher, 917 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: were much smarter, We're much more sane. We believe in 918 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: the process. We don't run around like Antifa with the 919 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: little arms and then go home, back home into mommy's 920 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: basement and put on the black uniform and the black helmet. Oh, 921 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 1: it's so disappointing when those helmets fall off and you 922 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: look at this week little face, isn't it and they 923 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: hit people with clubs, you know, they hit them again 924 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: and again. Oh, they're so lucky with nice soul. Oh 925 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 1: they're so lucky. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show, 926 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: am rahem, because I'm covering for Buck Sexton today. That 927 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite moments from from President Trump's 928 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:36,439 Speaker 1: speech on Thursday evening, calling out Antifa yet again. You'll 929 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: remember he's done that before. He's done it before, exactly 930 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: with with having uh the tequila song, I think it 931 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: was being made a meme of um and uh it's 932 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: that's it's certainly a long overdue, I believe, because you know, 933 00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: from from about September the one to October the twenty ninth, eighteen, 934 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: I believe there are six hundred and thirty two acts 935 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: of violence and harassment against supporters of this president, of 936 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: supporters of President Trump. This is the the Antifa mindset. 937 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: You know. They often argue themselves that the reason that 938 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: Antifa cannot be prescribed as an organization, the reason that 939 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: Antifa cannot be dealt with on an institutional basis, the 940 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: way we might deal with a group like Almaha Jaroun 941 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: or or a terrorfaction, or or a far right neo 942 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: Nazi group or whatever it is, is because they say themselves. 943 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: Antifa says themselves. They say, but Antifa is not not 944 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: a group. It doesn't have a leadership. It's just a mindset. Man. Well, 945 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, it is a mindset. There are 946 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: members of Antifa. There are members who subscribe to that mindset. 947 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: They wear the T shirts, they fly the flags. Antifa 948 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: is a mindset of violence. It's a mindset of harassment. 949 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: It's a mindset that's born out of being. As President 950 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: Trump intimated there week, I believe both physically and of 951 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: will philosophically void. And I also believe deeply, deeply troubled 952 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: individuals who believe, they truly believe in their minds that 953 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: they are real litigating the Spanish Civil War on the 954 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: streets of Delaware, or on the streets of Florida, or 955 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: in the streets of California, they truly believe. And by 956 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: the way, one of the greatest diarists of that Spanish 957 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: Civil War, George or Well, would have nothing to do 958 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: with antifa. I say that as an Orwell aficionado. But nevertheless, 959 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, this is something that does need addressing, because 960 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: when there's an attack from the right, or ostensibly from 961 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 1: the right to the left, everybody gets on their soap box, 962 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: everybody gets on their high horse, and they say, we 963 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: must condemn this, and the president needs to condemn it. 964 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: And he's not condemned it fast enough. He didn't condemn 965 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: it before it happens, so it wasn't fast enough. But 966 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 1: when there's attack from the left, an attack against the deplorables, 967 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: against the Trump supporters, the six and thirty two acts 968 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: of violence against Trump supporters over the last two years, 969 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: it's pitch silence. It's always silence. You don't get the 970 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: television shows showing the footage, you don't get the radio 971 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 1: programs playing the clips. It's stone cold silence. And I 972 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: think it behooves this administration. And I'm so glad President 973 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: Trump raised it to actually do something about it, to say, 974 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: you know what there is, and of course we know 975 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: there is a strain, no matter how small, a strain 976 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: of far right in neo Nazi violence all across the 977 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 1: Western world. I've seen it all across the Western world. Yes, 978 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,720 Speaker 1: it exists, but you'll never get the other side saying 979 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: that about their side. I am avowed conservative, I'm a 980 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: right winger, and I say, yes, there are people who 981 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: try and attach themselves to a movement that I profess 982 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of that do engage in things 983 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: like that, and the other side never has to account 984 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: for theirs. So this administration, I believe, should be doing 985 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: something about it, whether it's prescription of the organization that 986 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: isn't an organization, whether it's ensuring that the people who 987 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: are committing these attacks on ordinary American voters that they 988 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: feel the full force of the law. I'm just so 989 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: glad President Trump raised it, and I'm so glad he 990 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 1: told the truth that these are weak people. Welcome back 991 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheim Kasan filling in 992 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: for Buck Sexton, and we have another one of our 993 00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: fantastic guests on the line, Dr Sebastian Gorka, the author 994 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: of the brand new book Why We Fight, which is 995 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: available via regulary UM on Amazon dot com. It's a 996 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: fantastic book. I was lucky enough to celebrate its release 997 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: with Dr Gorka here in Washington, d C. Just a 998 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. You'll all know him as a 999 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: former deputy assistant to President Trump. Dr Corker, thank you 1000 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank 1001 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: you so much for having me, and for the kind 1002 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: words about my book, which is almost as good as 1003 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: your books. No No Goes On. Thank you. You'll get 1004 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: your cut of my royalty checks in the mail. Dr Corker. UM, 1005 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: you know you're an expert, and you and I have 1006 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: known each other for several years now, and whenever we 1007 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: get together, we end up talking about UM. You know, 1008 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the issues closest to our hearts National security. UM. 1009 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: And And when you look at what's going on in 1010 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: Central America at the moment, when you look at what's 1011 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: going on with this so called my igrant caravan, I 1012 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: don't even know why they call it a caravan. There's 1013 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: no caravan involved. This is a march of migrants, much 1014 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: much as we saw in Europe in two thousand and 1015 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,959 Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen and sixteen. UM, what does it tell 1016 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: you first and foremost that the media is going to 1017 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: such great lengths to say, no, you don't know that 1018 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: there are any criminals in there. It's all mothers. You know. 1019 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: We need to process these people with their asylum claims 1020 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: on the border. They all deserve to come in. Well, 1021 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: is that a political tactic or they or are they 1022 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: genuinely that vacuous that they don't know what's going on? 1023 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: I think it's deeper than that. I think well, I 1024 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: think they subscribed to Hillary Clinton's philosophy. Remember that speech 1025 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 1: that was leaked during the presidential campaign in which did 1026 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: she addressed a group of bankers and where she said, 1027 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: my dream is to have a borderless hemisphere, meaning no 1028 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: border from Canada to South America, at which point America 1029 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: ceases to exist. So, these are people who are so 1030 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: so brainwashed by the post modern secular relativism of the 1031 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: radical left that they actually think everybody has the right 1032 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: to come to America, that being an American is is 1033 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: some kind of human rights. It's it's quite stunning. And 1034 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: the idea that they can vouch for the for the 1035 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: probity of of ten thousand people without ever having met 1036 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: any of them. It just simply beggars belief, and it 1037 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: isn't assault on the national sovereignty of the United States. 1038 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: In case anybody had forgotten, you know, Hillary Clinton's words 1039 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and thirteen, she was giving a 1040 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: paid speech right to investors at the Brazilian banko ITTAW 1041 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: and she said, my dream is a hemispheric common market 1042 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: with open trade and open borders. I mean, very very 1043 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: brazen about it. And so what you're saying, Dr Gorka 1044 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: is these guys, whether it's you know, Jim Acosta or 1045 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo or whomever, are just carrying Clinton's torch where 1046 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: where she stumbled and fell over, rolled over a couple 1047 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: of times, had a coughing fit, and dropped it in 1048 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen. They look they they are the anti Brexit. 1049 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: They are the people who think that borders are evil, 1050 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: that the national identity is what fascists and white supremacists 1051 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: believe in. They negate. They basically negate the modern Westphalian system. 1052 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: That is that the quintessence of of the Judeo Christian 1053 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, civilization, whereby nations have identities, they have sovereignty, 1054 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: they have border, they have culture. For for them. All 1055 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: of these words are hate speech. So let's talk a 1056 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: little bit about the specifics of the caravan. Then, Um, 1057 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, who who are these people? How is this 1058 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: thing funded? How can we now seeing busses and trailers, 1059 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: and more importantly, how come we now seeing rocks and 1060 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Molotov cocktails and so on and so forth. I thought 1061 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: this was all mothers with babes in arms. Um, well, 1062 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: I think we should look to the incredible work of 1063 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: people like my colleague at Fox, Sarah Carter, who speak 1064 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Spanish and who actually went there to interview and investigate 1065 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the caravan, as opposed to Jim Acosta, whose real name 1066 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I think is Albio Acosta, who seems to be ashamed 1067 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,919 Speaker 1: of his Hispanic heritage, who sit in there plush studios 1068 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: in New York and pontificate about who is in the caravans. 1069 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: If you listen to Sarah, these are the majority of 1070 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the people are military age males, none of whom seem 1071 01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: to have any any backing, any grounds for it testing 1072 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: political asylum. And if you look at the fact that 1073 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: even what it was at Univision by accident found South 1074 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Asians inside the caravans. People for example from Bangladesh. That's 1075 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: journalism when you actually go there and interview these people, 1076 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: and very few including as you say, a Billio a 1077 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Bilio Acosta, Jim Acosta's real name, which, by the way, 1078 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: we all have to refer to him as everybody's got 1079 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to tweet at him that now. I mean, why why 1080 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: why is he hiding his his his Is he ashamed 1081 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: of his heritage? I saw that on your Twitter feed today, 1082 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Dr Gorgus, thank you, And it really is that this 1083 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: is this is the arrogance of the left that they 1084 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: can't even admit to their ethnic background because they're November 1085 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: of the quote unquote media elite. Jim, you're no longer 1086 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Jim to those who know well, Dr Gorger, I wanted 1087 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: to I wanted to also tie this to the mid 1088 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: terms because the the you know, the question on everyone's 1089 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: lips has been now for the last week as regards 1090 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: this migrant caravan is you know, when will it arrive, 1091 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: When will arrive on the southern border, Will it get 1092 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: there on on Sunday and or Monday or Tuesday morning? 1093 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: Ready for the for the pictures of of of you know, 1094 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: the five crying children that they'll line up there and 1095 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: and then accused President Trump of being cold and heartless 1096 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Um and and you 1097 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: know that sort of is one of the big topics 1098 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: on the minds of people this weekend. I think as 1099 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: they reconcile, you know, perhaps that same as you raised 1100 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: a Hillary Clinton mentality versus what we've seen over the 1101 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: last two years. So just let's let's talk a bit 1102 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: about what that's not, just what the stakes are obviously 1103 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,479 Speaker 1: at the midterms. And and and by the way, ladies 1104 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Dr Gawker is a co star alongside me 1105 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: in that Trumpet War movie that we spoke with Stephen K. 1106 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: Bannon about earlier in the program. Um and and actually 1107 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: gets the best part of the movie because he has 1108 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: the best voice and the best metaphor at the end 1109 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: of the movie. But I think I hope you can 1110 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: walk us through that a little bit. What you said 1111 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: in Trumpet War, and what what the stakes of this 1112 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: midterms are, especially considering just a migrant caravan, but the 1113 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: economic situation. And I know you always bring up you 1114 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: know what, what what are the Democrats going to run 1115 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:27,919 Speaker 1: on bringing back isis take it away? Thank you? It's 1116 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 1: really it's very simple. In twenty six the positive disrupted 1117 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the iconoclass from the queens, gave us a window, gave 1118 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: us a chance to claw back our freedom, to claw 1119 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: back our republic space, as as the rightful, shining city 1120 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: on the hill, to fight back, to resist the political 1121 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: correctness that had dominated American politics and culture for more 1122 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: than the generation. But all of that, all of that 1123 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: is on the ballot. In what is it? Four Days Time? 1124 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Just look at the last two months, I wrote Why 1125 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: We Fight, and not just as an analysis of the 1126 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: threats American faces, but the shed a light on who 1127 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats have become. In it, I write about Whittaker Chambers, 1128 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: the man who was Judge Kavanaugh before Judge Cavanaugh was 1129 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: even born. The Democrat pie today is the mob. You 1130 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: look at that, the treatment of this righteous, godly man, 1131 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: the hands of absolute frauds like Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, 1132 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: and Diane Feinstein who had let's not forget a Chinese 1133 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: intelligence agents on her pay role in the Senate for 1134 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty years. And these people want to take control of 1135 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: our Maxie Morris, who has pulled openly again and again 1136 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and again for the um denunciation and the harassments of 1137 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: members of the Trump administration. She's going to be the 1138 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: chair of the Finance Committee. If we do don't do 1139 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: our job on on on the midterm elections and vote 1140 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: down to Republican all the way. But everybody says that 1141 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: every few years this is the most consequential election in 1142 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: your lives. This time, for once, it's actually truer. You. Yeah, 1143 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: I think I think that's right. I mean, I opened 1144 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I opened the show today effectively saying the same thing. 1145 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm not one for hyperbole. If anything, I sort of 1146 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: take conservative estimates of occasions as well as um, you know, 1147 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: elections and so on and so forth. But this this 1148 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: does feel just just incredibly pivotal. It's about submit whether 1149 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: or not it's aments the victory of twenty sixteen, whether 1150 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: or not the swamp continues to be, or whether the 1151 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: American people say, no, actually, you know what, we changed 1152 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: our minds. We do kind of like the swamp, and 1153 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: we do want higher taxes, and we do want Isis back, 1154 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, as you as you've put it before. And 1155 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't think, at least I don't hope, 1156 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: um that they'll go in for it. Um Dr Gorka. 1157 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,439 Speaker 1: I wish we had I wish we had some more time, 1158 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: but we're pressed here and I know you have a 1159 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: very busy schedule coming up over the next few days 1160 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: doing your part um. And if people want to do 1161 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: their part in helping you, they can always go on 1162 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: to Amazon and and get the great book personally recommended 1163 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: by me. It's called Why We Fight by Dr Sebastian Gorka. 1164 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Dr Gorka. Any final words and and where else can 1165 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: they get the book? If they don't want to line 1166 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos his pockets, well they can go to Barns 1167 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and Noble. They can buy it from one of the 1168 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: few booksellers left in America. And also the audible. You're 1169 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna go and buy it on iTunes or Audible in 1170 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: audio format and you can hear my strange accent for 1171 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: about eight hours. Really use the book. But for them, 1172 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: all is you know, find the book. If you're interested 1173 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 1: in might take on why we find the most Important Boots. 1174 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Don't take anything to granted to them. Vote this week 1175 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: and take others who would not otherwise go to the 1176 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: polls check them to vote as well, because it really 1177 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: is about whether or not the mob's going to take 1178 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: control of for life jobs, not mobs. There you go, 1179 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Dr Sebastian Gorka, thank you so much for joining us 1180 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: here on the buck Sexton Show. My name is Rahemkasam 1181 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: covering four bucks Sexton today. Will be right back say 1182 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to you. We have an election. No sex, this is 1183 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: be This may be the most important one that you've 1184 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: ever had to experience. This is the midterm election. And 1185 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: oftentimes people only vote in the presidential election because they 1186 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: don't think this is important enough. But this is absolutely important. 1187 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: That's all the insurance come, that's all the banks, and 1188 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: so of course the CEO is that the banks now 1189 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 1: is saying what can we do to stop vaccine waters 1190 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: because if she gets in, she's gonna give us a 1191 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: bad time. I have not forgotten you four clothes on 1192 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: our houses. I've forgot forgotten that you undermine our community. 1193 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I have not forgotten that you sold us those exotic products. 1194 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Had a sign on the line, but jump and for 1195 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: mess that we could not afford. And in doing that, 1196 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: I have people who are on the homes who have 1197 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 1: never gotten back into a home. What am I gonna 1198 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: do to you? What I'm gonna do to U s 1199 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: F I'm gonna do to you what you did to us. 1200 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Maxine Waters. There, this is the Buck Sexton show. I'm 1201 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: raheem because some Maxine Waters, Congressman Maxine Waters showing again 1202 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: the sort of vindictiveness as far as I am concerned, 1203 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 1: and and pure royal nature of the debate as the 1204 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: Democrats have set it up. Now, those who have been 1205 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: paying attention, I'm sure we all have over the last 1206 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: couple of months, have seen the debate go further and 1207 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: further into the toilet with the Michael Abanatis and and 1208 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: the Kavanagh staff and and and all of that, and 1209 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and they're not learning their lessons as far as I'm concerned. 1210 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to hold up Maxine Waters 1211 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 1: to be your greatest spokesman, I mean, fill your boots 1212 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, because it only helps my side, 1213 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: and it only helps people with my mentality, but it 1214 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: also does something else for me. It reminds me that 1215 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: not only are they so petty, are they so vindictive, 1216 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 1: but that they've also got the prescription incorrect. I mean, 1217 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: think about what she just said there, Think about the 1218 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,719 Speaker 1: sort of house foreclosures and the and the financial crash 1219 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: and all of this stuff that wasn't That wasn't the 1220 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: making of a of a sort of free market right wing, 1221 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: nor nationalistic nor popularist government. It wasn't the making of 1222 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 1: someone like President Trump. It wasn't the making of the 1223 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: MAGA base. It was the making of globalist institutions. So 1224 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,839 Speaker 1: when President Trump says that the left have gone crazy, 1225 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good explainer for In fact, 1226 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: if we could play clip one from the Missouri rally, 1227 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,560 Speaker 1: president Trump says it better than I ever could. The 1228 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: choice in this election could not be more clear. The 1229 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Republican agenda is the mainstream agenda of the American people. 1230 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: It's how we all got here, the greatest movement in 1231 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the history of politics in our country. It's about you, 1232 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: not about me. The Democrat agenda is the agenda of 1233 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: the extreme far left. They've gone crazy, folks. They've gotten 1234 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 1: totally loco. They have gone loco. They have absolutely gone loco. 1235 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of it is calculated projection. 1236 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I was I was a political strategist, 1237 01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I was a campaign person. I understand that the lies happen, 1238 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: that some of them know what they're doing. When they 1239 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: blame this administration for for the pitfalls of globalism, and 1240 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: and also, by the way, by the same measure, Barack 1241 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: Obama wants to take credit for where the economy is 1242 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: right now, which I always scratched my head, by the way, 1243 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: because I think I hear time and time again from 1244 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: the left and the left media that this country is 1245 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: in dire straits and it's all a fake boom and 1246 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 1: this president is making things worse than Barack Obama walks 1247 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: onto stage and he goes, yeah, I did that. That 1248 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: was me. Well, how you can either take credit if 1249 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: you think it's good, or distance yourself from it you 1250 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: think it's bad. You can't do both. But that's what 1251 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: they're doing. So I know a lot of it is 1252 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: is lies in projection. But there are people like Maxine 1253 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 1: Waters who sadly I believe you know she I think 1254 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: she believes what she says, bless her or as you 1255 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: guys say, blessed, bless her cotton socks. Right. I mean, 1256 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: this is this is um. I mean it reminds me 1257 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: of of of being back in England quite frankly. I mean, 1258 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 1: after the breaks of vote, some of you will probably 1259 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 1: know I wouldn't suggest paying particularly close attention to it 1260 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 1: because it's it's eminently depressing. But after the breaksit vote, 1261 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: we voted for that great rebellious um instinct that we 1262 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: had within us, and the political establishment took that away 1263 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: from us and turned it into a process. They turned 1264 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: into an administrative state thing. And and I guess that's 1265 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: the same thing as you're seeing here um in the 1266 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 1: United States as well. So I just you know, I 1267 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: wanted to present you guys with that dichotomy between what 1268 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: Max and Water says on the stump versus what President 1269 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Trump said at the Missouri rally this week, and a 1270 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: lot more to come this weekend. I'm I'm certainly gonna 1271 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: be glued to watching it all take place. This is 1272 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam will be right back. 1273 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemkasam covering 1274 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 1: for Buck Sexton today. I wanted to get a little 1275 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: bit more detail for you guys on some of the 1276 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: races taking place across the country. Culmination in just four 1277 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: days time. On Tuesday, we will know does the House 1278 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 1: stay Republican control, does the Senate joining us on the 1279 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: line to discuss it is a good A friend of mine, 1280 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: commentator and analyst Matthew Tierman. Matthew, you've been following this, 1281 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: I think like no other I've seen. I mean, maybe 1282 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 1: maybe Pat Cadell could go toe to toe with you 1283 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: on this. One of my favorite, one of my favorite pollsters. 1284 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: But I think I think you know you have become 1285 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: obsessed to to Uh well, I don't know. You tell 1286 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 1: me to what lens? Would you suggest that your obsession 1287 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: has engulfed you? No, I don't. I don't know if 1288 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I think that might be a little stream. But you know, 1289 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: it's all you're talking about. It's all you're talking about. 1290 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 1: It's all you're talking about. This is a very you know, 1291 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: because this is a very very interesting moment because in 1292 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: we had a American electoral historic inflection. Trump did something 1293 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: no one did which has taken down the Union ross 1294 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 1: belt Democrat machine didn't make it republican. And now we 1295 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 1: get to see is that validated? Uh? Now, the calidy 1296 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 1: the map is pretty difficult on the House, is the 1297 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: mainstream media has suggested. But this blue wave they've been 1298 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: talking about for the last few months is not only 1299 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: not materialized, it may actually be stillborn. The Senate is 1300 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: what nobody's really talking about, because we could win a 1301 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 1: lot of Senate seats. Right now, we're pretty safe with 1302 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: fifty one, and there's what they're calling six toss up 1303 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 1: Senate seats, and we should be able to run the 1304 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: tam by we I mean Republicans, you know, on the 1305 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: on the right, the pro Trump Republicans, not the old 1306 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: school establishment GOP. They also got uh they're bus handed 1307 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: to him in ten on a lot of levels, which 1308 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 1: has been refreshing. But there's six established toss up seats 1309 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: and we look to basically run the table on them. 1310 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: Uh the uh, the The only one that's really difficult 1311 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 1: is Florida. Florida's sort of the new Ohio and as 1312 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 1: very very important for because if the Democrats win both 1313 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 1: the Senate seat and the governor's mansion, they will be 1314 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: in charge of redistricting, and uh, they will be able 1315 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 1: to have some influence on where the fourth biggest state 1316 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: and really the most purple state in the country, uh, 1317 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 1: swings in. It's a you know, it used to be 1318 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 1: the presidency was one through Ohio, but going forward, it 1319 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be Florida. Because Texas, California, 1320 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: New York. The three largest states ahead of Florida are 1321 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: rather established Texas Republican, California, and New York Democrat. But 1322 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: the six swing states that exist right now in this 1323 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Senate race are are Florida, which is absolutely a coin flip, 1324 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: Missouri Claire mccaskell's in big trouble there. Indiana, uh is 1325 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: also Joe Donnelly, Democrat incumbent, is in big trouble there 1326 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 1: against Braun uh Nevada, hell are the incumbent looks like 1327 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: he's in pretty good position. Arizona, which is a open seat, 1328 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: McCain's seat which is I'm sorry, flake seat which is 1329 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,799 Speaker 1: uh Mark McSally established congresswoman, and Christen Cinema also a Democrat, 1330 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: established congresswoman. Uh And Cinema has been sort of digging 1331 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: her own grave with the historical act of leftist activism 1332 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 1: she's been engaged in. Uh. They're digging up all these 1333 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: videos of her saying things like, you know, she can 1334 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: empathize with the Taliban. Uh and you know, fighting America, 1335 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: you know how it is, okay? And Jeff calls Arizona 1336 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 1: the meth lab of democracy. Uh. So there's all these 1337 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: seats look like and Montana was the other one, all 1338 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: look like we can pick them up. But the ones 1339 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: that nobody's talking about are ones that are lean Democrat, 1340 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 1: are firmly Democrat according to the establishment posters. And that's 1341 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 1: seats like West Virginia and Joe Mansion are Michigan Debbie Stabin. Now, Uh, 1342 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,799 Speaker 1: there's a great candidate, John James who's coming on strong. 1343 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Trump is going to to campaign for him. Uh this weekend. 1344 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,799 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Tammy Baldwin also vulnerable Wisconsin, remember went for Trump, 1345 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: which was a big surprise. Hillary Clinton didn't campaign there 1346 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: and Trump did something brilliant, which was in the last 1347 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: couple of day he went to Minneapolis. Uh. And that's 1348 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: a media market that impacts western Wisconsin and northern Wisconsin. 1349 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: To lose Minnesota as well. So I mean, these these 1350 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 1: permutations could get us to fifty seven fifty fifty nine 1351 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: in the Senate. Minnesota as well has a special election. 1352 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Al Franken resigned for that. He had his me to 1353 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 1: moment and the appointee was Tina Smith, who was lieutenant 1354 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: governor and she's running to keep the seat against a 1355 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: state Senator, Karen Houseley. And this is fifty fifty and 1356 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about this. And if you if your listeners, 1357 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: recall Al Franken only won the seat from Norm Coleman 1358 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: uh in because there was a recount and they were 1359 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: able to get the felon vote in thy Felons were 1360 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: counted in the Minneapolis Democratic machine in Hennepin County and 1361 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 1: we're able to swing that election. It was a multi 1362 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 1: month recount and that seat was stolen. So Minnesota is 1363 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: really really interesting because it looks like it could be 1364 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: a new Ohio as well, and go from a progressive bastion, 1365 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 1: which it was like Wisconsin historically for sixty seven years 1366 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: along with Michigan the heart of Union progressivism, and now 1367 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760 Speaker 1: it looks like it could, uh, it could start to 1368 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 1: be a Republican Minnesota eight is uh is in the 1369 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 1: northeastern part of the state, and that one, the Republican stalver, 1370 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: has a commanding lead. Uh So that one looks like 1371 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna flip. Minnesota seven. Nobody's talking about that's been 1372 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 1: held by a Democrat for thirty years as the Democrat. 1373 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 1: That's sort of an old school Democrat, blue dog Democrat, 1374 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 1: member of both the Democratic Party and the Democratic farmer 1375 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Labor Party, which is sort of historical anomaly that exists 1376 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, which is as it sounds, farmer labor and 1377 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,839 Speaker 1: so this on Peterson has been there for for decades 1378 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: and he has in the last three races watched his 1379 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: his his spread positive spread over Republican challengers go from 1380 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 1: plus six or seven to plus three or four to 1381 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,720 Speaker 1: less than plus one. Last single against the guy opposing him, now, 1382 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,880 Speaker 1: David Hughes, who at that point was a nobody. Nobody 1383 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: knew him. He was a twenty one year career US 1384 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Air Force vet who had gone into private contracting as 1385 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: a drone instructor and is very very strong on the 1386 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 1: border issues. This is what his private sector background was 1387 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: is in drone instruction to monitor the southern and the 1388 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,560 Speaker 1: northern border, and he's coming on strong. I spoke to 1389 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 1: somebody on the ground there who estimated at the yard 1390 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 1: signs in the district in Minnesota seven are four to 1391 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 1: five to one, uh, Hughes versus Peterson. So that's one 1392 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 1: that nobody's talking about that I think is gonna flip. Uh. 1393 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: There are certainly something that up that the machine media 1394 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,680 Speaker 1: machine has written off as Republican flip to Democrats like 1395 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 1: Iowa one Rod Bloom, I don't think that one is 1396 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: ten to one as as they're suggesting. You know, whenever 1397 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I see Nate Silver say that Republicans have a one 1398 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: in fifteen or one in twelve shot, I generally think 1399 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 1: in history is born this out, it's more like one 1400 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: in three or four, which if things turn out as 1401 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,680 Speaker 1: they are, we had a great economic number today with 1402 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: jobs that having a dynamic over the last month. I 1403 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,920 Speaker 1: think these one in three or one in four scenarios, 1404 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: a lot of them could break towards Republicans. I actually 1405 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 1: think we keep the House and the net loss of 1406 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: seats is five to ten. You know, we've got uh 1407 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: and the media who's talking about the blue wave, Uh, 1408 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 1: this doesn't exist. Trump today in West Virginia said if 1409 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 1: you want a blue wave, you're voting for a crime wave, 1410 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: which I thought was a great talking point given their 1411 01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 1: views on borders and policing in general, law enforcement, hawk 1412 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: hawkishness on on the military and foreign policy. So there's 1413 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 1: a lot of these seats that a lot of the 1414 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: establishment posters and that's right end left, have kind of 1415 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: written off. Maine. To Bruce poll Quin, the only Republican 1416 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: in New England and all the New England states Vermont, 1417 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, RhoD Island. He's the only one. 1418 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,879 Speaker 1: He's in Maine two, which is also the largest physical 1419 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 1: district in New England. It's all the way from where 1420 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 1: the urban and sort of suburban main ends with Bangor 1421 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 1: and uh and Rockport, all the way to Canada's this 1422 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 1: massive district and it's rather poor. It's a lot of 1423 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: Indian reservations. It's a lot of uh funked paper and 1424 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 1: timber mills. And Bruce Polquin is a Republican on on 1425 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 1: the ground there. It's all about god, guns and small government. 1426 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: And he has been very strong for the district. He 1427 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,640 Speaker 1: is known all over Congress as somebody who really represents 1428 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the district. Uh. They put up a very good candidate, 1429 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Jared Golden, who was a former military and was actually 1430 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: a Republican staffer for Susan Collins before going into the 1431 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 1: State House as a Democrat and so on. Paper is 1432 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 1: pretty good. But the more he campaigns, the more he 1433 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 1: left he sounds, and leftist rhetoric doesn't win in Maine two, 1434 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 1: which is Indian reservation country and very very strong on 1435 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,880 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment given its sort of hunting culture and 1436 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: border in Canada, and let's see the wilderness. Let's just 1437 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 1: let's just reset here for a moment, because it's a 1438 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of information for for people to take in. And 1439 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 1: I know you're brain works a mile a minute in 1440 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: your mouth works even faster, Matthew. Let's let's just reset 1441 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: with that. We're speaking to Matthew Timan. He's a obviously, 1442 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,879 Speaker 1: clearly from the last seven minutes, a pretty good analyst 1443 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: on all of this sort of thing election and and 1444 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and more. And Matthew, So you're pretty bullish, is what 1445 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 1: you're saying. I mean, you're you're a lot of people 1446 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 1: are hedging right now. A lot of people, especially behind 1447 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: closed doors, people I'm speaking to every day, is saying, look, 1448 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: you know, we have to present a brave front to 1449 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 1: this um. But the likelihood is we are going to 1450 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: lose the House. You don't think it's that way at all. 1451 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that way at all. I think 1452 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 1: that certainly will lose a few seats in California due 1453 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 1: to redistricting and retirements like Ed Royce, but that will 1454 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 1: be offset with some of this Upper Midwest Ross Belt 1455 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: like Minnesota, A lot of the necessary pathway for the 1456 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Democrats to take the House is through places like Illinois, 1457 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, Illinois six suburbs suburbs of Chicago, Pete Roscom 1458 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: is probably done. That area has transitioned to more Chicago's 1459 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: city style politics, machine politics. But Illinois twelve, thirteen, and fourteen, 1460 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: two of which are in downstate south of St. Louis 1461 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,599 Speaker 1: Farm Country. Uh, Boston Davis's seat, those were Trump plus 1462 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: fifteen and plus six, respectively. Those seats are fine. And 1463 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 1: Uh Denny Hasterrit's old seat in Illinois fourteen that was 1464 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Trump plus four and hasn't really changed at all. The 1465 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 1: incumbent Holts Grin should be fine. And the irony is 1466 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: that the Dems are running with this marketing campaign. This 1467 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 1: young lady who lives in her parents, her parents house, 1468 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 1: she's thirty something, and it's had to market herself as 1469 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: if she's a a nurse and nose healthcare and she's 1470 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: seven months out of graduation and never really worked in 1471 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: a clinical setting. So it's all kind of fluffy noise. 1472 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think they're gonna pick up these 1473 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 1: seats that's necessary for them to do in New York State, 1474 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: which is obviously you know, democratic governor to democratic senators. 1475 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 1: What you see a lot of is something we've talked 1476 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: in the past, given that your British political background is 1477 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: a Tory factor, is to see a lot of polling 1478 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 1: where people won't admit that they're going to vote for 1479 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 1: the Republican And so New York twenty two is a 1480 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 1: great example. It's sort of the center of the state, 1481 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,760 Speaker 1: north of Albany all the way to Canada. Souquite a 1482 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,639 Speaker 1: tenny and that was a Trump plus fifteen and also 1483 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 1: wrongly plus almost one, and so it's pulling within the 1484 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,639 Speaker 1: margin of error in the northeast. So I think Torri 1485 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: factor has this within the margin of error. But I 1486 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 1: think this is solid Trump country. Uh, there is a 1487 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: certainly going to be a loss I think in New 1488 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,640 Speaker 1: York nineteen, which is John Fazio's feat that's north of 1489 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 1: New York City. I wish, I honestly, I wish we 1490 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: could have all of this uh laid out, but we are. 1491 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 1: We are tied on time. UM So so your your 1492 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: predictions are gain in the Senate and don't lose the House. 1493 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,800 Speaker 1: We could gain up to fifty eight even fifty nine 1494 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 1: in the Senate and we'll keep the House with the 1495 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 1: margin of ten to fifteen is my call, and I'm 1496 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 1: wrong an awful little bit in that will still be 1497 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 1: fine in the House. I think that this is all uh, 1498 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,719 Speaker 1: sound and fury told by an idiot as the mainstream medium. 1499 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: The establishment posters generally are wrong and push their agenda, 1500 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: not the truth. But it does require people to go 1501 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 1: out and vote, does it not? It does, And I 1502 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 1: think that's also a big dynamic that's not captured by 1503 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,080 Speaker 1: the polls, which is we are way more motivated. And 1504 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 1: for instance, the youth Democrat activists who the articles are 1505 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,959 Speaker 1: talking about couldn't figure out how to stamp an absentee 1506 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: valve and send it. It's very easy for them to 1507 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: talk about going, but when it's when it actually push 1508 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,560 Speaker 1: comes to shop. One more race that's really important and 1509 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 1: has real national significance, as in New Jersey Senate race. 1510 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 1: If it rains on Tuesday, which is actually looking like 1511 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 1: the percentages of are going up, it might then be 1512 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: walking around money that you get in Camden Newark e 1513 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Strange Patterson won't go as far, and I think Bob Huggan, 1514 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 1: who's running a phenomenal campaign and phenomenal ad campaign against 1515 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 1: Menendez who was invested for corruption. Uh, he's running a 1516 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: thirty million dollar ad campaign. I live in New York. 1517 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 1: We will we will definitely keep a close eye on 1518 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 1: that one as well, Matthew. But we've got to leave 1519 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 1: it there. Matthews, timan commentation and analyst, thank you so 1520 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 1: much for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. 1521 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm raheem because some will be right back. With all 1522 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: the recent news about online security breaches, it's hard not 1523 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 1: to worry about where my data goes. Making an online 1524 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: purchase or simply accessing your email could put your private 1525 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,040 Speaker 1: information at risk. 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The fake news is creating violence. 1550 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 1: And you know what, the people that support Trump and 1551 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: the people that support us, which is a lot of people, 1552 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: most people, many people. Those people know what a story 1553 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: is through and they know what a story is false. 1554 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, if the media would write 1555 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: correctly and right accurately and right fairly, you'd have a 1556 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 1: lot less violence in the country, does the Buck Sexton show. 1557 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm rhemasm. That was President Trump speaking today, pointing the 1558 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 1: thing right back at what I like to call the 1559 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 1: fake news industrial complex. We have heard, have we not 1560 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 1: for several years now? Gosh, it feels like perhaps a 1561 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 1: lot longer. We've heard for several years that the President 1562 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Trump and the deplorables, the MAGA supporters out there are 1563 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 1: the ones behind all the violence out there. Right forget 1564 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 1: the six hundred odd attacks on them over the course 1565 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 1: of the last few years that I mentioned earlier on 1566 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: in the show. No, the fingers always points squarely at 1567 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,759 Speaker 1: this president and his supporters. But he's turned the tables 1568 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: on them yet again. I don't say how they didn't 1569 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 1: see this coming. I mean, we're quite used to this 1570 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,599 Speaker 1: president being able to quite effectively shimmy his way out 1571 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,200 Speaker 1: of these sort of holes and boxes that they try 1572 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,639 Speaker 1: and try and put him in. But again they've they've 1573 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,719 Speaker 1: gone for it. Remember they they introduced the term fake 1574 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 1: news to try and act President Trump. But now when 1575 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,760 Speaker 1: you think of fake news as a term, I mean 1576 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: in England, it has become synonymous with the BBC, and 1577 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: I would argue that a lot of people's minds jumped 1578 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,799 Speaker 1: to CNN when they hear that term. So so President 1579 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 1: Trump employing his oft proven tactic of turning the situation 1580 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: back on the establishment here saying no, actually, it's fake 1581 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 1: reporting that is causing a lot of the consternation which 1582 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,640 Speaker 1: leads to violence in the United States. I happen to 1583 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 1: quite agree. And it's not just through this administration. It's 1584 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 1: been around for a very long time. You know, fake 1585 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 1: news is nothing new. Fake news started with the advent 1586 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 1: of news. I mean here in Washington, d C. There 1587 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 1: is a there is a museum that I commend to 1588 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 1: everyone called the Museum. Now there's a lot of anti 1589 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Trump stuff in that in that museum, but what it 1590 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 1: will do is it will show you how. You know, 1591 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: news started as pamphleteering politics called pamphlet hearing, so people 1592 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 1: would make things up. They would naturally make things up 1593 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 1: or portray opponents in a bad light. News organizations and 1594 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: pamphlets and magazines were owned by political figures who use 1595 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: them and indeed, in your founding of your country, use 1596 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,639 Speaker 1: them to smear one another, use them to do each 1597 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 1: other down. The idea of neutrality um in the new 1598 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 1: sphere really only came along at the same time as 1599 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,839 Speaker 1: sort of hu Kayama's end of history theory was becoming 1600 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 1: ingrained in the minds of of of the elite, the 1601 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 1: people who had the reins of power. They thought, hey, 1602 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 1: look this is how the world is now, open trade, 1603 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 1: open borders, you know, multiculturalism, the diversity doctrines, so and 1604 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: so forth. And along with that came, you know, the 1605 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 1: end of the end of of of the idea of 1606 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 1: a back and forth that people, ordinary people could make 1607 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 1: their own minds up as to what they were being presented. Right. 1608 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,639 Speaker 1: I don't come on here on this radio show today 1609 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 1: and say I am a neutral arbiter of the news. 1610 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 1: I have no dog in any fight. It's a nonsense. 1611 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,639 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. It would be asking us to put 1612 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 1: our very a very core, a very spirit, as as 1613 01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 1: human beings, to a side, which I would argue is impossible. 1614 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,840 Speaker 1: And and you know, I can say that over the 1615 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,360 Speaker 1: course of four or five minutes. But President Trump has 1616 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 1: this magnificent way of just boiling it down to just 1617 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,600 Speaker 1: a couple of sentences and he says, no, you know 1618 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 1: what you're creating violence. By your questions, the fake news 1619 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 1: is creating violence. And had it not been for the 1620 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,120 Speaker 1: fact that all of these guys and girls out there 1621 01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 1: had portrayed themselves for so long as neutral arbiters of 1622 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 1: the news and we sort of went along with it, 1623 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 1: right then we wouldn't have found ourselves in this situation. 1624 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: But now people realize that they're being lied to. And 1625 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,680 Speaker 1: now people realize that some of the things that we 1626 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 1: were told, whether it was about the economy or the 1627 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Iraq War or so and and so forth, that we 1628 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: were being sold pubs, we were being sold eyes. Welcome 1629 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,599 Speaker 1: back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Causam joining 1630 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 1: me now on the line as the president of the 1631 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,679 Speaker 1: Clairemont Institute, and full disclosure, I am a Claimont Institute 1632 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,760 Speaker 1: at Lincoln Fellow. I can't speak highly enough about the 1633 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,599 Speaker 1: Claimont Institute. So I'm delighted to have Ryan Williams joining 1634 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: us now, not least because Ryan was instrumental in a 1635 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 1: a new article going up on a Claremont Institute website, 1636 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 1: American Mind dot org. I suggest you all take a 1637 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,840 Speaker 1: look at this slightly spicy I think it's called Our 1638 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:36,640 Speaker 1: House Divided Multiculturalism Versus America by Thomas D. Klingenstein and 1639 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,160 Speaker 1: it's a fascinating article. Ryan, thanks for joining us to 1640 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 1: to discuss this. UM. I guess, I guess there's always 1641 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 1: trepidation when UM, when publishing something like this, especially you know, 1642 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 1: in August institution like the Clairemont Institute wading into into 1643 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 1: the debate surrounding multiculturalism. I mean, I personally don't have 1644 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,280 Speaker 1: an issue doing it myself, but you know what kind 1645 01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,719 Speaker 1: of rocks get thrown by the establishment media when something 1646 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,479 Speaker 1: like happened. So just like, let's let's talk through this 1647 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,640 Speaker 1: article a little bit. Let's talk about it's it's um, 1648 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: it's a prognosis over multiculturalism, and then and then perhaps 1649 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 1: you can talk us through a little bit of the 1650 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 1: thought process behind this. Sure, yeah, thanks for having me. Raheim. Well, 1651 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,799 Speaker 1: Tom kling has seen as a full disclosure a Claremont's 1652 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,519 Speaker 1: board chairman, which of course is into his byeline, but 1653 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 1: he wanted to update this term multiculturalism, which a lot 1654 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 1: of us probably hadn't heard since the nineties, uh, and 1655 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:34,160 Speaker 1: tie it to identity politics and political correctness and really 1656 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: to to lay the blame for um for the some 1657 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: of our pathologies and our identity politics pathologies, and our 1658 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 1: current political pathologies at the feet of the Academy and 1659 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 1: the project that it's been I've been going about for 1660 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 1: the last fifty years. It's pretty Um, it's it's pretty 1661 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: in depth. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't pull any 1662 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 1: punches here. I mean, you know, looking at looking at 1663 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: both the establishments perspective on aliculturalism as well as the 1664 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 1: rights perspective on multiculturalism. Um, what do you think that 1665 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,599 Speaker 1: the key takeaways from from dus King and Stina, Well, 1666 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 1: his his one of his his lead point was really 1667 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 1: that a lot of conservatives didn't understand what Trump was doing. 1668 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 1: H And he draws the provocative analogy between Trump and Lincoln, 1669 01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 1: And his point is that, you know, in the slavery 1670 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: crisis in the eighteen fifties, Lincoln oriented his whole political 1671 01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: project around getting rid of slavery and making sure that 1672 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,120 Speaker 1: the principle that it was right didn't spread, which was 1673 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,960 Speaker 1: the principle of the South, and that all the means 1674 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,559 Speaker 1: that we're at his disposal were in pursuit of that goal. 1675 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,720 Speaker 1: So Tom's analogy is to try to unite conservatives these 1676 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,120 Speaker 1: days behind Trump because he gets one thing right, at 1677 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,040 Speaker 1: least at the very least, and that's the insanity of 1678 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,120 Speaker 1: political correctness and its tyrannical nature. So Tom Tom thinks 1679 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,679 Speaker 1: that we ought to keep that in view, and uh, 1680 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, that ought to orient us and and put 1681 01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,800 Speaker 1: Trump than context and put the larger project of what 1682 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,519 Speaker 1: should be the larger project of conservatism these days, UM 1683 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,160 Speaker 1: within focus. So it might mean a set of policy 1684 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,640 Speaker 1: priorities that that Conservative inc. Is not used to. It 1685 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,000 Speaker 1: might mean allowing behind a man that they're uncomfortable with, UM, 1686 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 1: but the main goal should be kept in sight because really, 1687 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: if we allow multiculturalism and identity politics to become the 1688 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 1: dominant way of thinking in American national political life, than 1689 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,479 Speaker 1: the game's up. Yeah, I'm just gonna quote from this 1690 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 1: article a little bit and then and then we'll come 1691 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,320 Speaker 1: back and discuss more of it. Um quote. Trump's entire 1692 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,360 Speaker 1: campaign was a defensive America. The election was fought not 1693 01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:40,479 Speaker 1: so much over policies, character, email service, or James Comey 1694 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: as it was over the meaning of America. Trump's wall 1695 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,559 Speaker 1: was not so much about keeping foreigners out as it 1696 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 1: was keeping a commitment to a distinctive country, immigration, free trade, 1697 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 1: and foreign policy, what about protecting our own in these policies? 1698 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,719 Speaker 1: Trump was raising the question who are we as a nation? 1699 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 1: He answered by being Trump a man made in America, unmistakeably, 1700 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,839 Speaker 1: an unapologetically American, and like most of his fellow citizens, 1701 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,680 Speaker 1: one who does not give a hoot what's Europeans or 1702 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 1: intellectuals think. And I picked that. I picked that paragraph 1703 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,000 Speaker 1: or purpose because not only do I hold one might 1704 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 1: argue that I am a European intellectual, right, yeah, we 1705 01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,760 Speaker 1: give you a pastory him, you're our favorite European intellectual. 1706 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's that's that that makes it pretty 1707 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 1: clear cut. And and I suppose maybe we can reflect 1708 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,479 Speaker 1: on on the impending midterm elections using that as well. 1709 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, when you've looked at this um and and 1710 01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,400 Speaker 1: you're typically out in in California, right, when you've looked 1711 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,519 Speaker 1: at the last couple of months of campaigning, whether it's 1712 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,320 Speaker 1: been Abanati and Stormy Daniels, whether it's been Breck Havanah, 1713 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 1: whether it's been migrant caravans, it all seems to be 1714 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,639 Speaker 1: coming back to what Tom and Thomas Flingstein has written 1715 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 1: in this article right what it means to be America, 1716 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 1: What what America not just allows, but what also what 1717 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 1: it tolerates and does it really tolerate having its commander 1718 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 1: in chief, um, you know, having his genitalia brought up 1719 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 1: in in news articles, having you know, blow up dolls 1720 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,919 Speaker 1: of him like dressed as a rat. Now, it tolerates 1721 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 1: it in the sense of freedom of speech and freedom 1722 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 1: of expression. But I think, to borrow the website name 1723 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 1: of yours, I think the American mind rejects that, right. 1724 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 1: I think they don't see it as fair play. They 1725 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,080 Speaker 1: don't see it as fair game. Whereas the whereas the 1726 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:27,200 Speaker 1: presidential campaign, as as this article suggests, uh, you know, 1727 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,720 Speaker 1: it did come down to and I said at the 1728 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 1: beginning of this radio show today, I quoted Lincoln in 1729 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,800 Speaker 1: in defense of of this president, which is why I 1730 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,080 Speaker 1: wanted to have you on. It comes down to what, 1731 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, what this country looks like. And I think 1732 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 1: that's why, of course the migrant caravan issue is is 1733 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 1: looming so large as an issue, right, yeah, yeah, I 1734 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,640 Speaker 1: think so. Um, you know, Trump's critics, the criticism of 1735 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 1: a migrant caravan, or criticism of foreigners who might not 1736 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: be suitable for Republican government as simply racist or white 1737 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 1: nationalists or other some other uh at hominum attack. Whereas 1738 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 1: you know, Clink Tom likes to point out in the article, 1739 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,680 Speaker 1: and I think you can fide it in many of 1740 01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump's speeches as well, that what we're really talking about 1741 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,720 Speaker 1: is a common citizenry sharing with shared borders, which has 1742 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 1: every right to determine the wh who new citizens ought 1743 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 1: to be and the criteria for admitting um people who 1744 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: want to join this political community. So in that sense, 1745 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,720 Speaker 1: it's it's thoroughly American and goes back all the way 1746 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,160 Speaker 1: to our theory of constitutionalism and declaration and the idea 1747 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,120 Speaker 1: that we all consent together to form a government that 1748 01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:36,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with whiteness or or the 1749 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 1: nastier strains of of modern nationalist politics of the European variety. Now, 1750 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 1: you guys are no strangers to publishing controversial articles. In 1751 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,160 Speaker 1: September of twent sixteen, you published a Michael Anton essay 1752 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 1: the Flight ninety three election. I just want to quote 1753 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,879 Speaker 1: from that because it was really one of those pressian 1754 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 1: articles that left an indelible mark on on me and 1755 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: I think the the American intellectual mind that was trying 1756 01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,519 Speaker 1: to analyze what was going on there. I quote from 1757 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,080 Speaker 1: from Michael Anton, who who wrote UM at the time 1758 01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,120 Speaker 1: under a pseudonym um and went on to serve on 1759 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 1: the National Security Council. He said in the opening of 1760 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 1: this article, six is a flight ninety three election. Charge 1761 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 1: the cockpit or you die. You may die anyway. You're 1762 01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 1: the leader of your party. May make it into the 1763 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 1: cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane. 1764 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 1: There are no guarantees except one. If you don't try, 1765 01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,760 Speaker 1: death is certain to compound the metaphor. Hillary Clinton presidency 1766 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,000 Speaker 1: is Russian roulette with a semi auto. With Trump, at 1767 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 1: least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances. Ryan, 1768 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, you guys, you guys are really putting the 1769 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: putting the cat amongst the pigeons with this sort of thing. So, 1770 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,000 Speaker 1: so just talk us through. I mean, Claremont is a 1771 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 1: is a fantastic institution of fantastic think tank UM and 1772 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 1: and and comes up with I mean, I've got to 1773 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: tell you some of their fellows and board members and 1774 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,519 Speaker 1: so and so forth. I mean, one of my favorites 1775 01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,599 Speaker 1: being Professor John Marini, who I believe has a book 1776 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 1: coming out shortly about the administrative state, which I'm sort 1777 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:01,640 Speaker 1: of obsessed by um. But but but when you do 1778 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: these things, I mean, do you sort of bulked? Do 1779 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 1: you think, oh, you know, we're going to be attacked 1780 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,680 Speaker 1: by you know, the Weekly Standard or National Review or 1781 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: something like you said, conservative ink is gonna round on us. Yeah, 1782 01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 1: that's always a concern, of course. But you know, I 1783 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of us have realized, Um, you know, 1784 01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Trump is a symptom, not a cause of the scrambling 1785 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 1: of our modern Postcold War politics. I think this was 1786 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,040 Speaker 1: a and um, you know, the fusionism that emerged that 1787 01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,360 Speaker 1: sustained conservatism through the mid century and beyond had kind 1788 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 1: of stopped making sense in the post Cold War world. 1789 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,920 Speaker 1: So this, this um disintermediation to use a fancy word 1790 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: that Matt Cotton that he has used before. Um, you know, 1791 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 1: it was inevitable and we're just trying to think our 1792 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 1: way through it at times. You know, the body politics 1793 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,920 Speaker 1: needs a little bit of shocking climics rather than just 1794 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,320 Speaker 1: another scholarly book. So when the time calls for it, 1795 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,719 Speaker 1: we we thought it was it was prudent to pursue 1796 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: a little more of a hot take. Spicy absolutely well, 1797 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,240 Speaker 1: I honestly Ryan, I really appreciate it, and I really 1798 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the the American Mind dot Org. It's a it's 1799 01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,599 Speaker 1: a relatively new publication that you guys have started out 1800 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 1: of the Claimont Institute, and it's got just some fantastic articles. 1801 01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to have you on plug that and 1802 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,160 Speaker 1: thank you for all your efforts. I appreciate a human 1803 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,439 Speaker 1: I encourage everyone to check out, of course, our classic 1804 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: Cleremont review books as well, which is absolutely getting better. 1805 01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,519 Speaker 1: I must read. Ryan Williams, thank you so much for 1806 01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: joining us here on the buck sext and show. The 1807 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,120 Speaker 1: website is American Mind dot org. Make sure you check 1808 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,760 Speaker 1: out the Claimont Institute. I'm Raheemicasum will be right back. 1809 01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 1: I keep trying to point out to people not to 1810 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 1: demonize any one group or anyone ethnicity, but we keep 1811 01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:48,080 Speaker 1: thinking that the biggest terror threat of something else, some 1812 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,519 Speaker 1: some some people who are marching, you know, towards the 1813 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,880 Speaker 1: border like it's imminent. And when the last time they 1814 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,679 Speaker 1: did this, a couple of hundred people came and they 1815 01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, most of them did get into the country, 1816 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 1: most of them tire, you know, got tuckered out before 1817 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:05,160 Speaker 1: they even made it to the border. Um, so we 1818 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:09,400 Speaker 1: have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror 1819 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:13,760 Speaker 1: threat in this country is white men, most of them 1820 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,000 Speaker 1: radicalized right up to the right, and we have to 1821 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,200 Speaker 1: start doing something about them. There is no travel ban 1822 01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 1: on them, There is no band on you know they 1823 01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,320 Speaker 1: had the Muslim band, there is no white guy band. 1824 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,600 Speaker 1: So what do we do about that? We have to 1825 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:32,160 Speaker 1: stop demonizing people, CNN's Don Lemon says, before going on 1826 01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:36,679 Speaker 1: to demonize an entire group of people, white people, white 1827 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 1: men who are radicalized to the right. He says, no, 1828 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 1: we shouldn't worry about thousands of unknown people flooding up 1829 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 1: through Central America onto the US southern But what do 1830 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: we should aim our specifically at white men? This despite 1831 01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 1: several hundred attacks on Trump supporters over the past couple 1832 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: of years. This despite the fact that Antifa and a 1833 01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,040 Speaker 1: whole bunch of other left wing groups, by the way, 1834 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 1: protesting all around the country as is their right, but 1835 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,639 Speaker 1: getting violent alongside it. Bike locks being thrown in people's faces, 1836 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:22,040 Speaker 1: cars being smashed. You see it almost every day now. 1837 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 1: In fact, right now in Toronto there is a monk 1838 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 1: debate going on between David from and Stephen K. Bannon, 1839 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,280 Speaker 1: who was on this show earlier and again six d 1840 01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 1: Odd protesters out there of the same violent left wing 1841 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:44,559 Speaker 1: ilk but never ever gets any attention. Well, I heard 1842 01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,519 Speaker 1: Don Lemon say that, and I, for those of you 1843 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 1: who don't know me, have a little bit of a 1844 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,680 Speaker 1: background in counter terrorism. You know, I was raised in 1845 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,120 Speaker 1: a Muslim family and and and turned my back on 1846 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Islam and turned my attention to what was going on 1847 01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 1: in the community that I was raised in. I went 1848 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 1: to university in London in Westminster. Jahadi John, the Islamic 1849 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 1: state executioner, was one year below me at that very 1850 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:18,479 Speaker 1: same university. I remember being peer pressured by students, fellow 1851 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: students while I was at university who was saying, you know, brother, 1852 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,879 Speaker 1: you're not good Muslim unless you come to an Islamic 1853 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,920 Speaker 1: Society meeting. And they'd say it, and they'd prod me 1854 01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 1: in the chest and they'd corn on me after seminars, 1855 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,839 Speaker 1: and eventually I caved and I said, yes, certainly, I'll 1856 01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:39,519 Speaker 1: come along to something. And I remember walking down to 1857 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:45,240 Speaker 1: that library building on Little Titchfield Street in London. I 1858 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,920 Speaker 1: was with my friend Richard and he said come to 1859 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 1: the pub. I said, I've got a duck into this 1860 01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:54,000 Speaker 1: Islamic Society meeting. I promised my colleagues I'd go. And 1861 01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 1: as I walked up the steps and Richard continued on 1862 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,040 Speaker 1: his way down to the pub, a couple of guys 1863 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 1: came out of that is Society meeting. They stopped me 1864 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,840 Speaker 1: on the steps and they said, no, you don't want 1865 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 1: to go in there. I said, why not? They said, 1866 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: they're showing videos of nine eleven and clapping and cheering, 1867 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,639 Speaker 1: and I it was a pivotal moment for me, quite literally. 1868 01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 1: I turned on my heel and I called out to 1869 01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,960 Speaker 1: Richard down the street. I said, Richard, he said, he 1870 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,719 Speaker 1: said what I said. I'm coming down the pub. And 1871 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 1: when I tell that joke in public settings, I often 1872 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,000 Speaker 1: add on the phrase at the end and I never left. 1873 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,600 Speaker 1: But joke's a society, it's a you know, it's a 1874 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 1: deeply serious situation when we have a news anchor like 1875 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:39,880 Speaker 1: Don Lemon denying the terror threat both from the left, 1876 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,920 Speaker 1: which is rampant in Europe as well as in the 1877 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 1: United States, and from radical Islamic terrorism. You know, there's 1878 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,599 Speaker 1: a new report out by a place that I used 1879 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,600 Speaker 1: to work out in London called the Henry Jackson Society, 1880 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:56,000 Speaker 1: named after an old Democratic senator in fact, Scoop Jackson. 1881 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 1: This report came out this week and what the reports 1882 01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 1: shows is that the greatest share of attacks continued to 1883 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,519 Speaker 1: be carried out by his Lamists in the West forty 1884 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 1: eight point five of all attacks in the West or 1885 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:16,880 Speaker 1: his Lambist You know, the statistics around this a quite 1886 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:21,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary and it and it makes me wonder how someone 1887 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,800 Speaker 1: like Don Lemon can say what he says with a 1888 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:24,759 Speaker 1: straight face, but how he can also not be called 1889 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 1: out on it by his colleagues. It was supposed to 1890 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,439 Speaker 1: be in pursuit of the truth, you know, of those 1891 01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:34,680 Speaker 1: terror attacks. Henry Jackson's Society report says is limister responsible 1892 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 1: for eighty four point two seven percent of killings and 1893 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:47,720 Speaker 1: injuries in the West eighty four point to seven last year. 1894 01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,839 Speaker 1: And Don Lemon wants to demonize white men who support 1895 01:46:53,120 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 1: conservatism or President Trump. You know, the the extraordinary thing 1896 01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 1: about this to me is not just what President Trump 1897 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,960 Speaker 1: relayed earlier on today when he said, actually fake news 1898 01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 1: leads to a lot of the violence, but it's something 1899 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,759 Speaker 1: broader than that. You know, there are there are Muslims 1900 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:18,559 Speaker 1: across the Western world. And I wrote a book in 1901 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen called No Go Zones where I 1902 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,880 Speaker 1: went to a lot of these Muslim dominated ghettos and 1903 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 1: I spoke to a lot of people, and yes, a 1904 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:32,719 Speaker 1: majority in those Muslim neighborhoods want things that I should 1905 01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:37,360 Speaker 1: hope nobody out there wants Sharia law, female genital mutilation, 1906 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: all these awful things. But there are people within their 1907 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:46,240 Speaker 1: midst who both want to shun that or leave it 1908 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,960 Speaker 1: all together, or reform it from the inside out. And 1909 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 1: when people like Don Lemon say what Don Lemon says, 1910 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,759 Speaker 1: it doesn't empower them, it doesn't help them, It doesn't 1911 01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 1: help anyone. It's just a lie. Listen, You've been wonderful 1912 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,519 Speaker 1: and I really want to thank the producers and thank 1913 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton for having me cover on here today. My 1914 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,280 Speaker 1: name is Raheem Kassam. You can follow me on Twitter 1915 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,720 Speaker 1: at Raheem Kassam, Facebook, Instagram, the works. You know this 1916 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,559 Speaker 1: is this has been a great honor for me and 1917 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just so great ahead of four 1918 01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,120 Speaker 1: days before the midterms, to be able to cover this 1919 01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,160 Speaker 1: wide range of topics, um with all of you guys 1920 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 1: out there. I I used to host the Serious XM 1921 01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 1: radio show on the Patriot Channel a couple of years ago, 1922 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,759 Speaker 1: and you just you just forget how what a wonderful 1923 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:38,960 Speaker 1: medium broadcast is, especially radio, and it's, uh, it's it's it's. 1924 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you know, if the 1925 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,200 Speaker 1: opportunity arises, I hope we can be back again soon. 1926 01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,599 Speaker 1: In the meantime, make sure you're always tuned into Buck 1927 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: Sexton's show and following him on Twitter and so on 1928 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 1: and so forth. So with that, ladies and gentlemen, with 1929 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,439 Speaker 1: four days left to go, I employ you be aware 1930 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,320 Speaker 1: of what's going on around you. Guys. You know, Tuesday's 1931 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,479 Speaker 1: a very important day. Rahem Kassams running off