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Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Tasper textime text down, text text are time.

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Speaker 1: Well here we are again one Meal's Live sponsored by

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Speaker 1: Klota Health. We're alive in Orchard Park. Grace. Guys today,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna offend anybody. I'm not going to talk

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Speaker 1: about climate change, talk about it, talk about the weather.

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Speaker 1: I drove in in a white out this too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: come from similar areas. I know it was kind of

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Speaker 1: tough tradu It was bad. It was really bad, really bad.

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Speaker 1: And now there's not a great drop of snow on

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Speaker 1: the ground and there's no snow in the sky. Virtually

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Speaker 1: golf weather. Don't get well, don't get carried away. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was weird. How quickly that changed. When it started

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Speaker 1: snow in this morning, I thought, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a couple of days of snow. What's

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Speaker 1: the worst weather you've ever golfed in? Oh, golf um cold,

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Speaker 1: kind of low fifties, no forty something, Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: was was it raining? Well, you know, I did it

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Speaker 1: for a purpose. Uh. You know, Harvey Green Dolphins, Spedia

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Speaker 1: relationshis guy. He would come up here and he would

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Speaker 1: he would usually come up and we would try to

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Speaker 1: play golf if the weather was fine. And he came

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Speaker 1: up in early November once and it was a cold day,

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Speaker 1: and he insisted, I'm playing golf on the phone before

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Speaker 1: he got her. I said, Harvey, you don't understand it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be cold Thursday or whatever. And he goes, no, no,

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Speaker 1: let's play. Let's play. So we went. We didn't played,

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Speaker 1: and it was freezing. But the funny pointing was I

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Speaker 1: bought I brought him. He's bring me some bring me

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Speaker 1: a hat and some gloves just in case. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I brought him a Bill's hat and Bill's gloves that

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins guy had to wear him, of course, but

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Speaker 1: he wore him too. Oh yeah, I think it was

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Speaker 1: the coldest I've ever played. What hay Green is the

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Speaker 1: only kind that ever got fired for not going to

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Speaker 1: a strip club? Hello, Well, yeah, that's his story. He

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Speaker 1: tells he worked for the New York Yankees and George

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Speaker 1: Steinbrenner told him you got to ride herd on Billy Martin.

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Speaker 1: You can't let him. You got to watch him all

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Speaker 1: the time. And Billy he's gone. He goes, he takes off,

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Speaker 1: and Harvey won't go with him, and he got fired

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Speaker 1: for it. Of course he came back to work the

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Speaker 1: next day, right, because they right, he just kept showing

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Speaker 1: up talking playing golf on a day like today, if

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Speaker 1: you played golf, yeah yeah, here's the thing. I got

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Speaker 1: a golfing buddy partner, Fritz, and Fritz and I will

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Speaker 1: play if it's if the pins are in and it's dry,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go. If we're free, if we you know free,

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Speaker 1: we right, and so we The goal is to play

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Speaker 1: every month, at least once every month of the year,

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Speaker 1: all of it, if you can. Now, we haven't gotten

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Speaker 1: it done in the last couple of years. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we always get in a November round and then you know,

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Speaker 1: as early as you can when the weather turns. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes we've gotten into November, we've gotten into December round,

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Speaker 1: and we've gotten in a February round, but never on

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Speaker 1: the same year. I don't think you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think they. I think some guys yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, high thirties. If it's dry and particularly

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Speaker 1: if it's sunny, there's no reason not to go out,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you you know, got the gear. We yeah,

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Speaker 1: not so much anymore. Now I started well, I started

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Speaker 1: of my day. I can't just I'm not gonna get

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Speaker 1: up at six a well, you can't get up. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's dark until seven. No, it was, it was

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Speaker 1: It was really dark this morning. So you know, you're

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Speaker 1: and when we're still you can get up at you

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Speaker 1: you can tee it up at yeah, you can see

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Speaker 1: it up at five thirty quarters or six and play

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Speaker 1: as late as nine, you know, you can. You can

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Speaker 1: I'm sunset around nine thirty after glow till ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: glass of brown water, a doulpe breverlege. Are we doing here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right here we sit looking at the stadium when it's

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Speaker 1: all cloud and everything. And by the way, none of

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Speaker 1: these I'll tell you though. Let me tell you though.

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Speaker 1: This is my philosophy about it, and even our kids

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Speaker 1: recognize it. And my wife will tell you this too.

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Speaker 1: The best seasons in Buffalo always the next one, because

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Speaker 1: you always I love the four time, the four changes.

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Speaker 1: Now springtime is a hard springs, the hard one here,

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Speaker 1: winner is a hard one. Well, we're good with winter.

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Speaker 1: We can you know, ice fish, we ski your snow machine,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever you do, you snowshoe, cross country ski.

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Speaker 1: But when exactly it's not even it's it's muddy season, right,

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Speaker 1: it's grain, it's right, right, right, But you get think

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Speaker 1: about it. You get to this joint from summer all

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Speaker 1: I hear like this when the bills are doing well

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Speaker 1: and you know, I got Sabers tickets, it's great. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're right, it's a springtime together. That's when you need

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Speaker 1: to leave town for like a week or so just

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Speaker 1: to recharge your badger, which, by the way, you're gonn do,

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Speaker 1: aren't you. Yeah, next Friday, we can't believe you beat

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Speaker 1: me to that week. By the way, we um, we

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Speaker 1: have no show next Monday and Tuesday, right, you know that,

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Speaker 1: You know I did know that Monday and Tuesday we're

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Speaker 1: up because of the holiday. We will commemorate the mL

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Speaker 1: King Day holiday on Monday and get a bonus day

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Be back Wednesday and Thursday. Steve will be

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Speaker 1: here next Friday. I'll be gone for a week, is Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A lot of change is coming up here. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and think about this too. There was that possibility that

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Speaker 1: could have been the AFC Championship game here in Buffalo. Well,

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Speaker 1: that sounds a long shot. It was a long shot.

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Speaker 1: I was, you know how well. Um, by the way,

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Speaker 1: none of the last five minutes have anything to do

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Speaker 1: with global warming or climate change. We're just talking about weather.

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Speaker 1: That's all simple weather discussion. Just start the day off

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Speaker 1: around the water cooler. Yeah. Yeah, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good show though. We got Cynthia Freelands coming on again. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's great. Cynthia Freeland will join us at one to class.

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Speaker 1: She has the ability to put and we hear all

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Speaker 1: this analytics stuff. She has the ability to make it

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Speaker 1: news today and it's like the only Bill's news today.

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Speaker 1: The Bills coaching staff is off this week, but it

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Speaker 1: looks like the Giants approached the Bills about talking to

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Speaker 1: offensive coordina to Brian Dable about the similar posts in

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Speaker 1: it always happens in this kind of time of year.

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Speaker 1: But Brian day ball is I think, you know, for

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Speaker 1: the amount every time the Bills, which wasn't very many

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Speaker 1: every time the Bills lost a game, he was our callers.

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Speaker 1: They crushed him. But man oh man, people around the league,

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Speaker 1: they need a speedy guy like Jerry Butler as fast

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Speaker 1: sending a tweet for the tweet sheet. What type of

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Speaker 1: p Fifty nine percent of you say they need a big,

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Speaker 1: Thirty six percent say they need an all round wide

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Speaker 1: get the good wide receiver. In fact, the best of

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. You don't have to go to

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Speaker 1: I think is important to note. Secondly, you can get

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Speaker 1: That's really the reason he could play in the league.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't run the routes that were called, but he

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Speaker 1: would get to the spot on the timing of the

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Speaker 1: play that was called for because he knew innately, on

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Speaker 1: the one on one matchup that he was with the

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Speaker 1: guy how to beat that guy. And that's why he

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Speaker 1: was so smart, so cunning, and of course he had

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Speaker 1: the ability to catch it. And Fitz didn't care what

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Speaker 1: he did as long as when he came to him,

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Speaker 1: he was in the right spot at the right time.

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Speaker 1: And it worked, we worked for talked to somebody about

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Speaker 1: this recently. Maybe it was Stevie. He developed chemistry with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick too, And I don't you know, if you

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Speaker 1: put another quarterback in there, I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: other quarterback and Stevie take off right away, right. It

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Speaker 1: takes some time for each to know each other and

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Speaker 1: to know what a certain look meant or whatever. There's

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Speaker 1: a certain coach would mean, there's a certain coaching stats

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Speaker 1: wouldn't put him on a field. Yeah, you know, they

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Speaker 1: won't let you do that. You know, they won't let

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Speaker 1: a receiver. You can't freewheel like that. You've got to

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Speaker 1: be you know, you gotta run this in it because

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Speaker 1: your route compliments somebody else and doubt that they do

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. And some coaching staffs are, you know,

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Speaker 1: reticent to let players do that. But when the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is on board with it and he trusts you and

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Speaker 1: you start being productive, you know, coaches will sit down

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Speaker 1: and say, okay, go you know, do it. And that's

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Speaker 1: what the Bills were doing at the time when Stevie

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Ryan Fitzpatrick were We're tearing it up. So

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Speaker 1: that's the nature of our discussion today, what type of

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Speaker 1: receiver do you think the Bills need to get in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. I prefer to think about as a draft pick.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily have to be a draft pick. It

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Speaker 1: can be a free agent signing if you like. But

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Speaker 1: give us a call and lines are open eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll free one eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We're gonna slice this wide receiver

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Speaker 1: question about ten different ways this offseason, our way till

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Speaker 1: the draft. We've taken DK Metcalf a year ago, this

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Speaker 1: would not be a topic of discussions. Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: know Jesus saying, well, you can't go down that road

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Speaker 1: because there's there's a lot of people. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of there's a lot of players on that draft board

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Speaker 1: that were there when the Bills went by. And every

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Speaker 1: team in the league can say the exact same thing too.

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Speaker 1: Some of us in this room, we're big fans of

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf just said, yeah, there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: them turn out and it's amazing too, rookie year, how

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Speaker 1: many teams executive team executives were not all of them.

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Speaker 1: Even the Seahawks passed on him twice or once yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing how guy and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the DK would have been as good

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Speaker 1: here as he was in Seattle this year? Is he?

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Speaker 1: And that goes with every player. You know, there's no

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Speaker 1: way to say, yeah, there's no way to know, but

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Speaker 1: you're right. It's that's that's both the beauty and the

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Speaker 1: enraging nature of the NFL Draft. What type of receiver

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Speaker 1: do you think the Bills need this offseason? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight three five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Get us started

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheets, sat all right from Nikki, He says,

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Speaker 1: I don't think every team needs a big, physical receiver,

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Speaker 1: but in our case we do. Almost all our receivers

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Speaker 1: are under six foot and as good as Brown and

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Speaker 1: Beasley looked, they can struggle against physical secondaries. Knocks may

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Speaker 1: turn into a physical receiving tight end, but until then

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Speaker 1: we need one. Now that from Nikki. From Russ, he

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Speaker 1: also says Eric Molds was an all around receiver. He

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Speaker 1: was fast, he was big. Imagine if he consistently had

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, he'd have had a yellow jacket. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree with Russ a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: I think Eric Moles was it was one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that just got drafted by the Bills instead of

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Speaker 1: a team with a high with an elite quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, he was great. He was really great

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Speaker 1: All Pro Pro bowler, but you know he'll never get

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Speaker 1: the nationwide recognition he deserves. In my opinion, Alex sends

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Speaker 1: us in on the tweet sheet. We need playmakers. That's

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Speaker 1: a type of receiver of the Bills should get playmakers.

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Speaker 1: Draft and signed. The best playmakers I could care less

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Speaker 1: if they're five five or six seven. Well, okay, I

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Speaker 1: accept that, but you should care what size they are

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Speaker 1: because I think you got a pretty good core to

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Speaker 1: start with here with Cole Beasley and John Brown and

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple others. Maybe Duke Williams has something to

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Speaker 1: say about it. Maybe some of the others do as well.

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster, I'm not writing him off either, but I

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Speaker 1: think there's a need for a bigger guy in that group.

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Speaker 1: As the first guy in the tweet Sheet said, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a need for a different type of

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Speaker 1: receiver than what they have there. That's why that's why

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Speaker 1: you might care whether they're five foot five inches tall

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Speaker 1: or six feet seven inches tall. But from Brad, if

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Speaker 1: you could recreate a Hall of Famer like Andre Reid,

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Speaker 1: why would you not take the option of all around versatility?

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Speaker 1: It is important, no question. That's why Andreas on our

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Speaker 1: list is a prototype that we wonder if that's what

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Speaker 1: the Bill should be looking for. There's no question about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I like the quality, the playmaking quality that Alex said,

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Speaker 1: I'm the earlier tweet he was. It's a good it's

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Speaker 1: a nice thought because that's really what it comes down to.

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Speaker 1: We saw that so many times, particularly on offense these days.

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Speaker 1: Is he say, hey, he's a playmaker on defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: a playmaker on defense, the guy makes a tackle for

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Speaker 1: three yard loss, that's kind. But if you get a

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Speaker 1: playmaker on offense, it's it's a touchdown and that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: And so I agree with that. There is a mentality

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Speaker 1: there something about some guys who are like a Steve

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Speaker 1: Smith Senior, who is a five nine wide receiver for

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers man. That guy was a playmaker and

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Speaker 1: he was dominant as a small guy. You gotta say

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Speaker 1: he think he's a playmaker. And then there's guys that

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Speaker 1: are big, number one physical, long wide receivers like a

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin for the Dallas Cowboys and Eric Moulds and

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Speaker 1: all these other guys and Julio Jones that are a

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Speaker 1: different type of guy. And I'm with you, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what the guy looks like. I really don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he looks like, you know, Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: or if he looks like Julio Jones or something in between.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he looks like a tight end

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Speaker 1: or running back. I don't don't care. If the guy

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Speaker 1: makes plays his productive that's who you want. But let's

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Speaker 1: day and we all have that guy in our mind

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Speaker 1: that we want our guy to look like. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so that's kind of what we're trying to get everybody

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Speaker 1: on the same page. With one more from the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet from Jeremiah. He says, other big, physical and fast

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Speaker 1: like Julio Jones, those are really hard to find, though,

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Speaker 1: Yeah they are. They are hard to find. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they can find that a guy like Julio Jones.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're one exists. We are told,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't really dove into the draft pool yet

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Speaker 1: of wide receivers, but we were told it's a deep

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Speaker 1: one that the prospects go until at least the third round,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe the Bills can get a good receiver

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Speaker 1: in the third round. If they want to wait that long,

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Speaker 1: maybe they should go in the second round or the

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Speaker 1: first round. But there's a chance to get a good

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Speaker 1: wide receiver I think in the draft, and the draft

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Speaker 1: is where I would go as opposed to free agency

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Speaker 1: for the Bills. All Right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It's One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalana Health. We're coming to you from the Seneca Studio

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One Bills five,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, receive Tasker here until three o'clock today. Cynthia

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Speaker 1: Freeland from NFL Network joins us at one o'clock today

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Speaker 1: asking the question of Bill's fans today, what kind of

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Speaker 1: receiver do you want? Who? And we put it in

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Speaker 1: terms of maybe a Bill's receiver from history, do you

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Speaker 1: want a big physical receiver like Andre Reid. Would you

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Speaker 1: rather prefer a all around guy or I'm sorry, a

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Speaker 1: big physical receiver like Eric Molds. Would you rather prefer

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Speaker 1: an all round guy like Andre Reid? Would you rather

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Speaker 1: have a speed guy like Jerry Butler? These are three, anyway,

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Speaker 1: of the top receivers in Bill's history, and as far

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Speaker 1: as Twitter is going, most people say it's the Molds type,

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Speaker 1: the big physical guy they'd like to have. So we

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Speaker 1: can do that, we can talk about that. Sixty one

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Speaker 1: percent say they really have a big and physical receiver

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Speaker 1: like Eric Molds. Thirty four percent say they need an

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Speaker 1: all round performer like Core Read three percent. Only three

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Speaker 1: percent say they need a speed guy like Jerry Butler,

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Speaker 1: which is not all Jerry Butler did, but okay, we

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Speaker 1: classify was that one and a half percent say other

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you they don't want the type of receiver.

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Speaker 1: They don't want Steve, no matter how fast he is,

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Speaker 1: no matter no Odell Beckham Junior, don't want He's just

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Speaker 1: become a pain in the neck. He got in trouble.

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Speaker 1: He is in trouble for passing out cash, passing out

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Speaker 1: cash after LSU one I get it. It's his school,

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Speaker 1: I get it, passing out cash. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: report today New Orleans police getting an arrest warrant against

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Speaker 1: for Odell Beckham, accusing him of simple battery in relation

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Speaker 1: to a locker room interaction he had with a police

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Speaker 1: officer Monday night. A video showed Beckham apparently slapped a

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Speaker 1: mail officer's buttocks. After the championship game. Officer is telling

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Speaker 1: LSU guards. LSU guard Damian Lewis not the smoke. Quit smoking.

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Speaker 1: They're smoking Victory cigars in the locker room. The officer

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Speaker 1: said that anyone smoking there would be subject to arrest. Oh,

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Speaker 1: here's a video right here, and Odell Beckham didn't like that,

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Speaker 1: and he smacked the officer on the butt and now

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Speaker 1: they're talking about Now, look, it appears that the was

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Speaker 1: it supernome. The Mercedes has been supernome. Officials may have

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Speaker 1: overreacted a bit, he think, but Odell Beckham is just

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Speaker 1: a jerk to go down there and pass out cash

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Speaker 1: to players. Now, the school's got to investigate what went

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Speaker 1: on there, Why was he doing that? Could be a

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Speaker 1: potential NCAA violation. Maybe some of the players who are

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Speaker 1: done with their eligibility and it won't matter. But it's

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Speaker 1: just a stupid thing to do. It's just a thing

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Speaker 1: a jerk would do, just and it's all around, it's

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Speaker 1: all designed. It would appear to me to draw attention

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Speaker 1: to himself, Odell Beckham, after his miserable year with the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, to draw attention to himself and using his

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Speaker 1: college team that had just won the national championship as

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Speaker 1: a vehicle to do that. That's the kind of guy

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Speaker 1: that builds. Look, I don't think they want a guy

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Speaker 1: like that, and they don't think McDermot and Bean would

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Speaker 1: ever take a guy like Odell Beckham, don't matter how

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Speaker 1: talented he is. There's my hot take, Steve, I'm done

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. You got the check your

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Speaker 1: timeline people and be chiming in a yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. That was it. Well, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: most of what Odell does is to bring attention to himself, right,

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Speaker 1: and that was no exception. Um in the locker room

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Speaker 1: after the game and the LSU Tigers, Um, I get

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Speaker 1: it's your alma matern. He probably and I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if he does contribute to the football operations over

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Speaker 1: there as a person alumnus. But uh yeah, slapping the

639
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Speaker 1: cop on the on the mound and I don't listen.

640
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I have a problem with the you know, with the

641
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, what are the police doing in there? You

642
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: know they don't you know, they don't need security in there,

643
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: and it certainly don't need anybody with We don't need

644
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Speaker 1: the smoking police in them in the locker room. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, what are they doing? That's so you've blamed

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Speaker 1: the police in that, Odell Beckham I usually I'm oh,

647
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a big law enforcement guy. I got

648
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Speaker 1: a lot of friends who are a law enforcement guys home.

649
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Speaker 1: But I dim I do. I'm not kid, Yeah, I do.

650
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Speaker 1: I have friends who are police officers I love and

651
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: I think they do a it's an unbelievable job they do.

652
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's not you know, come on, stay

653
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: out of there. Just leave them alone and listen. I've

654
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: been to the Superdome. There are a lot worse things

655
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: than cigar smoke in the in the in the concourses

656
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: of the Superdome. Sonam, what else goes on there? Well? Yeah,

657
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: come on, you've been there. You've been there. I've been there.

658
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've been in the concourse, but

659
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Speaker 1: now I'm curious. Maybe down the tunnel in place. Come on,

660
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you. They need officers in the

661
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: locker room. And the whole thing is stupid. But the

662
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: fact that Beckham is in trouble for handing out cash

663
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: to players, now he's in trouble for smacking the police

664
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: officer around the butt. All he's doing is bringing attention

665
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: on himself. Guy, can't live without it, you know, there's right.

666
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: We've had guys like this before. There's a couple you know,

667
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: still out there and former players who are still like that.

668
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: It's it's annoying. Just stay away. You didn't win anything

669
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Speaker 1: this year, so you had to go to your college

670
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: championship game. Stay away. You don't need that. Yeah, eight,

671
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Speaker 1: don't you agree or not? I agree? Okay? I agree?

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Speaker 1: Eighth three five fifty to three one eight eight five

673
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty John Murphy and Steam Tasker. It's

674
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: one Bills Live talking about receivers and what the Bills

675
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: might need when it comes to receivers. M and again

676
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: we're getting I'm just scanning the the responses on Twitter.

677
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people, including Brandon Treep say give me

678
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Molds all day long. Dude was a beast. It makes you, um,

679
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: it makes me anyway, think about maybe what a waste

680
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Speaker 1: of a career Molds had here in Buffalo. Very productive

681
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: guy came here and couldn't get on the field for

682
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Speaker 1: a couple of years until I remember the day. It

683
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: was a Friday night preseason game at men Ralph Wilson

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Speaker 1: Stadium when Wade Phillips said, yeah, from now on, Eric

685
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Speaker 1: Moulds is starting. It took Wade Phillips to come in

686
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: and say, we got to start this guy, that's how

687
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: good he is. And he did, and he started, and

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Speaker 1: he yeah, he worked through some bad quarterbacks Flutie and

689
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Johnson early on, and then uh, you know the guys

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Speaker 1: after him, but so it BLEDSOE gave him a little start,

691
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, and then wow, you can go down

692
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Speaker 1: the list, you know. Yeah, it was a it was

693
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: a rough, rough period and he was, Yeah, that was

694
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Speaker 1: one of them. And I'll tell you this, and it

695
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: goes to the point that I always make about these guys,

696
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: and it's even the guy that we're talking about today.

697
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: The Bills made draft a guy or sign a guy

698
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: in free agency or trade for a guy, whatever you want. Uh,

699
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: you're they're only as good as the guy throwing him

700
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: with the football. And Eric molds, Um, you know there's

701
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: a guy with literally we've had people who agree with

702
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: me that Hall of Fame talent, Hall of Fame talent. Uh,

703
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: and he is catching you know, football from like what

704
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: ten different guys during his career. Um, it's a tough,

705
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: tough situation to be in for a wide out. He

706
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: caught at the end of it, he caught six hundred

707
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: seventy five passes for the Bills for more than nine

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. So he certainly made the most of it.

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Speaker 1: Steve Eric Moulds, did you know even rough most of it?

710
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: That's how good he was. And it's you know, sad

711
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: to think about. Yeah, it's just not yeah, just having

712
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: a career that was kind of trapped in an era

713
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: for the franchise that picked you up in a place

714
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: where they're just completely always searching for the guy to

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Speaker 1: throw the football. And you know, some teams stay there

716
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Speaker 1: for a long time. We were talking about it in

717
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: the break and how you know this championship a round

718
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: and the kind I don't know if we should do

719
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: it now. But Jimmy Garoppolo sat on the bench for

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Speaker 1: what four years in New England before they traded him.

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Speaker 1: I think that's about it. I think he's there for

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Speaker 1: three or four years, Jimmy Garoppolo, New England, backing up

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Then they trade him to San Francisco. He

724
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Speaker 1: comes in, finally gets in this game, goes six and

725
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: oz and his first half, second, last third of his

726
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: first season in San Francisco, comes back and blows his

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00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: ACL out last year. Now he's back and now they're

728
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Speaker 1: the number one seed. He was on. He came out

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Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday with a quick SoundBite about

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Speaker 1: how he handled the injury, the ACL injury and what

731
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Speaker 1: it meant to the franchise. Jimmy Garoppolo yesterday getting ready

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Speaker 1: for Championship Week on what has torn ACL, how it

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Speaker 1: might have been actually good thing for the franchise if

734
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: not for him personally. Things have a way of working out,

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Speaker 1: and so I always told myself I was a blessing

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Speaker 1: in disguise, you know, the ACL and everything, and uh

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Speaker 1: we got boast out of it. So I mean that's

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00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: a pretty good trade off, I guess. But Uh, it's um. Yeah,

739
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: things have a way of working out. I guess just um,

740
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: this ride is crazy. You just gotta roll with the punches. Yeah,

741
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: because of his absence and their struggles last year, they

742
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: get a chance to draft high and take Nick Bosa,

743
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Speaker 1: who's been was what defensive rookie of the Year this year.

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00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good trade. Although Garoppolo's acls for a player,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's good to figure of him

746
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Speaker 1: to say that how close to his ceiling is Jimmy

747
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Garoppolo do you think? I think he's got to be

748
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: pretty close too. And he's good. He's good, not great.

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00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he splashed big when he landed out there.

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: He was on the bench. Remember Shanahan got him out there,

751
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: they traded for him, and they would not play him

752
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: for like five weeks and they were stinking. And then

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00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: he gets on the field and the last six weeks

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: of the season six and oh boom, and I mean

755
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: the you know, the roof comes off the place and

756
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: they're coming in and they come back in the next

757
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: year and he's plays for like three games and he

758
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: blew his ACL and it's you know, he's had to

759
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: set and he had to sit and watch last year's

760
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: they struggled at the top of the draft and Nick

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00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Bosaka becomes a forty nine er and now they got

762
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: this defense at they're riding. So yeah, I mean, he's good,

763
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: very good. And I think we made the point. I

764
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: think the truth be known. I think Garoppolo was Bill

765
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Belichick's choice, not Brady. I think they were ready to

766
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Tom Brady and trade Brady to San

767
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Francisco instead of Garoppolo. And I don't think I don't

768
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: think Robert Kraft would allow it. I just wonder how

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Speaker 1: much better Garoppolo will be. It's hard to see him

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Speaker 1: getting in a whole lot better. He's pretty good. It's

771
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: hard to see him get along. It's just the Patriots

772
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: went to three straight Super Bowls without Garoppolo and with Brady,

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Speaker 1: so it's nobody's nobody's losing these sleep over losing Jimmy Garoppolo. Right,

774
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Speaker 1: all right, we got open phone lines. Give us a call.

775
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Which wide receiver? Which type of wide receiver? Do you

776
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: think the Bills might want to be interested in a

777
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: physical guy like Eric Molds, although he's more than just me,

778
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: a physical guy, more than a big guy, a all

779
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: round guy like Andre Reid, a speed guy like Jerry Butler,

780
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: somebody else you have in mind, Give us a call.

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00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. John Murphy was Steve Tasker one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio

784
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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Big Weekend

785
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: coming up, Steve. A couple of conference championship games Tennessee

786
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Speaker 1: and Kansas City started off at three oh five kickoff

787
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: at Kent City Zerohead Stadium, and then the NFC Championship

788
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Speaker 1: following at six forty pm Green Bay and Sam Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers grew up in northern California. He grew up

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Speaker 1: as an forty nine Ers fan. He has been forced

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00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: to admit this week. That's interesting, Yeah, he says, He'll

792
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: admit though that passed a long time ago. But he usually,

793
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: he said, dreamed about playing for the forty nine ers.

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00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: He comes out of Cow and it's the same year

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith comes out, and a lot has been made

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Speaker 1: of the fact that they were both in the green

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00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: room on Draft Day. We've all seen it. Those guys

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00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: those young players that get in there, and they were

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Speaker 1: in New York ready for the draft, and they picked

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Speaker 1: somebody else, and Alex Smith got picked number one overall

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Speaker 1: by the San Francisco forty nine ers, and Alex Smith

802
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: turned into Alex Smith. And Aaron Rodgers is a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl winning, elite Hall of Fame quarterback who went to

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and sat behind Brett far from a handful

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Speaker 1: of years before he actually even got on the field,

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Speaker 1: and now he's put it together and played phenomenally. There's

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00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: a lot to this, you know, particularly you know with

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00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: a rookie head coach Aaron Rodgers, just with Matt Lafleu,

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: they've put it together. And one interesting thing, not only

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00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: does all this emotional baggage travel around with Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: I think he's over it, you know. I don't think

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00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: this is like because everybody in San Francisco's different. Everybody

813
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: is you know, it's a different franchise than when he

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00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: was drafted, and all of that stuff has been a

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Speaker 1: long time. But there is a little bit of something there,

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Speaker 1: I would think, and you can say what you want

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Speaker 1: about it. I think the big thing about this game

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00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: when these two teams is the fact that they played

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00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: earlier in the year and the San Francisco Niners absolutely

820
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: embarrassed the Packers thirty seven to eight. They crushed him.

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Speaker 1: That has more to do with this. I think this game,

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Speaker 1: this matchup, than anything Aaron Rodgers went through as a

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Speaker 1: kid and then slight he got on draft day. I

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Speaker 1: ask you, I want to get your opinion on Aaron Rodgers' career.

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00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: He's thirty six years old. He was not a starter

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Speaker 1: first three years. You mentioned playing behind Brett fire If

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Speaker 1: he didn't start a game. He played seven total games,

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: attempted fifty but fifty nine passes in those three years.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was buried on the bench behind Brett Farve.

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Speaker 1: Did that help him or hurt him? And is that

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Speaker 1: the reason why he is so good at now deep

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Speaker 1: into his career at age thirty six? I don't I

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Speaker 1: think there's you can make an argument both ways. Certainly

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Speaker 1: it didn't hurt him. I mean I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would would they have been that much

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Speaker 1: better markedly better in Brett Farve's later years than they

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Speaker 1: were with Aaron Rodgers would have been with a young

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I don't know. Aaron Rodgers has got that

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00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: reputation of being the smartest guy in the room, so

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Speaker 1: he would have picked it up pretty fast. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that Bret Farve was still good, and he played

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Speaker 1: and took the the Minnesota Vikings the championship game right

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Speaker 1: after he left, so Brett Farve could still play. So

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, no, they wouldn't have. I don't know that

845
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: the Packers were hurt by Brett Farve playing over Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Aaron Rodgers was really hurt by it.

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Speaker 1: He's put together a really nice care or since then

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Speaker 1: and won a Super Bowl, won one Super Bowl, right,

849
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: maybe he would have won a second one if he'd

850
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: got start earlier, but you know how that goes. They

851
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: were three years in a row, or three out of

852
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: four years, they were one play from advancing. So and

853
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: that you can't put that all on Raron Rodgers. You know,

854
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: you gotta have some help. So he was playing really well,

855
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: and they they've been wildly successful with him at quarterbacks,

856
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: so I'm and he was the reason. So yeah, I

857
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: don't you got to ask yourself, you know, did you

858
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: take Brett Farve to take Aaron Rodgers? They both won

859
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl and they were both in the playoffs

860
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: a whole bunch and they both got down to one

861
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: play away. That kind of thing. Now, Brett Farve did

862
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: get him to two Super Bowls in a row. He

863
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: won the first one and lost the second one to

864
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: John Elway in the first of their two Super Bowls.

865
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: At the end of John will always career. So you know,

866
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: maybe you can give Brett Fav the nod for that.

867
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Plus Brett Fav had an even longer career. But but

868
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers isn't finished yet, so I don't know.

869
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: That's a really tough question. Whether they were it was

870
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: good for him or not. It certainly made sure he

871
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: was gonna have every chance to succeed when he did

872
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: get on the field full time, thinking right, yeah, sure

873
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: he was. He was an entrenched pro by the time

874
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: he got on the field for good. Okay, yeah, I'll

875
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: give you that. You know, so I um that that

876
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: really makes it makes success whatever success is there to

877
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: be had for your entire team, you're gonna You're not

878
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to hold up your into the

879
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: bargain after being in there for your in your fourth year,

880
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying. So um, I think you

881
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: have to say, looking back on it, certainly you have

882
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: to say it helped him. I don't know that that

883
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: was wrong. I don't know they needed a full three

884
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: years or four year, whatever it was. He sat there

885
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: three full years. I don't know if he needed three

886
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: full years. Makes a long time two full well, yes,

887
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: it's twenty five average NFL career. He had to wait

888
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: to even get on the field twenty five years old

889
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: before he became a starter in the NFL. That's a

890
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: long time to wait. I remember going the Bill's, practiced

891
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: with them a couple of days and played what's it

892
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: a preseason game? I think it was more like a

893
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: joint practice up at lambeau Field, and I want to say,

894
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: oh five. I think Mike Mularkey was coach here at

895
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: the time, and Aaron Rodgers played most of the practice game.

896
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: Brett Farbro wasn't going to play, and Rodgers looked good

897
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: as a rookie, and you began to think, oh, this

898
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: guy will be playing next year and he wasn't. This

899
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: guy will play the next year and he wasn't. I mean,

900
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: three years is a long time to sit and wait

901
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: and On the other end, there's Josh Allen starts, you know,

902
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: two games into his NFL career. He's a starter, and

903
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: that seems to be working out. Okay. Is there a

904
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: middle line there? Like when do you want him to start?

905
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Do you want him to start ten games into his

906
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: rookie year, do you want him to start his second year?

907
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, And every guy's different. I

908
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: know that, I just wonder. Brett Aaron Rodgers was served

909
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: by waiting three full years going into his fourth year

910
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: before he ever started a game. The problem is this too,

911
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: when you start comparing guys like that early in their career,

912
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: they're all different. Yeah, everything's completely different for every guy.

913
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: The offenses they're running are probably different, you know, and

914
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: the surrounding cast is a little different. The head coach

915
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: handles things a little different. Their defense is a little different.

916
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: Is it more complimentary or is it dominant or is

917
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: it week You know, what style of offense they run

918
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: is at the right style for that particular player at

919
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: that particular time, or they're gonna have to evolve when

920
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: they find out what he can do if he plays

921
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: early like this, Like the offense here in Buffalo You're

922
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a much different offense that Josh Allen takes

923
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: the field with with him at quarterback then they would

924
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: have been had they been designing the offense for Ryan

925
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or somebody else. You know, Josh Allen can make

926
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: throws those guys can't make. Other guys can't make. Is

927
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: he running somebody else's offense when he comes in or

928
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: is he running his? I think Aaron Rodgers finally when

929
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: he did get on the field, that was his offense

930
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: by that time. And you know, so it's hard to say,

931
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: like the early start that Josh Allen got as a

932
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you know, two of his rookie season when he

933
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to play at all, as composed to Aaron

934
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers putting in an entire career on the bench before

935
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: he actually took a snap. It's completely different for both

936
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: those guys. And I think even if you think about

937
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, would he have thrived when he got on

938
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: the field if he had been behind Brett Farr for

939
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: three years? I know what happens to Josh Allen he

940
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: finally gets on the field. You know, I don't know

941
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: what do you learn when you sit there and watch

942
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Brett Farr do all the zany stuff he did trying

943
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: to and that's one thing you kind of want Josh

944
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: Allen not to do so much of, right, Yeah, it's all.

945
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: It's all when you start trying to compare guys in

946
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: their careers and how it developed, they're all completely different.

947
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that, you know, into those circumstances.

948
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: But I know this, nobody, you know, nobody got worse

949
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: sitting and watching for a while. But sometimes they don't

950
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: get good faster, you know what I'm saying, you know,

951
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: And that's really the question. Yeah, good question, it is.

952
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: It's fun to think about. But man, oh man, he's

953
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: killed it when he got in there. Yeah. Is the

954
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: MVP at least once? Right? Was an MVP once or

955
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: maybe at least once? Right? Yeah, So I'm elite quarterbacks.

956
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is if you got one,

957
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: you did it just right, right, he don't screw it up.

958
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Don't screw it up. You got a break care. Cynthia

959
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Freeland joins us from NFL Network when we return One

960
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalata Health from the Seneca Studio

961
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Hello Bill's

962
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports The update from One Bill's Drive. The

963
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: Bills reportedly have denied the New York Giants permission to

964
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Donker Brian Dable as a candidate for their offensive coordinator's post.

965
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Joe Judge likely to hire an experience offensive coordinator. He

966
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: was interested in Dable, the report goes, but he was

967
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: on the Patriots staff with Judge for a couple of

968
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: years twenty thirteen through sixteen. The Giants requested permission for

969
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: Judge to interview Dable, and the Bills denied that permission. Meantime,

970
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: Joe Judge apparently ready to talk with Jason Garrett about

971
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator position. The Giants requested formission to speak

972
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: with Garrett about their head coaching job before hiring Joe

973
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Judge earlier. This week, Conference Championship games now just a

974
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: couple of days away. The AFC game is the first

975
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: one off three oh five pm at Arrowhound Stadium in

976
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City. It's the Tennessee Titans and the Kansas City Chiefs.

977
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Later on that day, the San Francisco forty nine ers

978
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: home against the Green Bay Packers. Forty nine Ers tight

979
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: and George Kittle was a surprise addition to the team's

980
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: participation report. He did not practice yesterday afternoon. Kittle listed

981
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: with an ankle injury, dealing with some soreness left over

982
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: after San Francisco's win over the Vikings in the Divisional

983
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: round last Sunday. Demi Levada will sing the national anthem

984
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: as part of the pregame festivities at hard Rock Stadium

985
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: in Miami on Sunday, February second for the Super Bowl.

986
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: The pregame show will be broadcast live worldwide. Joe Burrow

987
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: checks off a lot of boxes. Cincinnati Bengals coaches say

988
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: as they evaluate Burrow, the LSU quarterback who led his

989
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: team to the National Championship Game a few nights ago.

990
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: The team of the top pick, the Cincinnati Bengals needs

991
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback of the future, and the Bengals are not

992
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: reticent to discuss Burrow after just a couple of days.

993
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior handed out real cash to LSU players

994
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: on Monday night. The money that he distributed on the

995
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: field after LSU's championship game was real, according to Joe Burrows.

996
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: He said that in the podcast interview released Wednesday, Sabers

997
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: and Dallas to play the Stars. So night coverage begins

998
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: at eight. You can hear the game at eight thirty.

999
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: That's what time faceoff is. Sabers and the Dallas Stars.

1000
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, and our one Buffalo studio joined

1001
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: on the line by our next guest. She is the

1002
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Speaker 1: NFL network analytics expert, Cynthia Freeland joins the show. Hello Cynthia,

1003
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: John Murphy, and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks coming

1004
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: on with us today. We appreciate it. John and Steve,

1005
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me be a while

1006
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: since we've talked. We need to talk about last weekend's

1007
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: games first, and tell me your thoughts on Kansas City's

1008
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: amazing comeback against Houston. Maybe it wasn't so amazing. How

1009
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: did you see that coming? I definitely didn't see it coming. Why.

1010
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean seven possessions, seven touchdowns and then then the

1011
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: eighth possession of field goal That just never happens. First

1012
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: of all, when you go down twenty four points, the

1013
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to have seven more possessions almost never happens to

1014
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: begin with. So you're just compounding improbable situations here. But

1015
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes and that quick strike offense and

1016
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: their defense stopping Deshaun Watton huge key. Yeah. One of

1017
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the things that you noticed, and I had noticed it,

1018
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: and I hadn't really put it into context. Five of

1019
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: the touchdown passes Mahomes through they were like flips. They

1020
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: were like less than five or ten yards in the air.

1021
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: They're really sure. So it is a big strike offense.

1022
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: But man, they just dominated because they got down close

1023
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: and then just flipped the ball into the end zone.

1024
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: They were really short passes for touchdowns, but they moved

1025
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: the ball at however they wanted to. Is that the key? Yes,

1026
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: So what happened was in the beginning the first in

1027
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Speaker 1: the first quarter when they went down twenty four points,

1028
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: there were some flukes, but what wasn't connecting was those

1029
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: short passes so under ten air yards they just weren't connecting.

1030
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: And then you had an uncharacteristic drop from Travis Kelsey.

1031
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Those are things you don't normally see, right, So between

1032
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: those two things, that was kind of like making their

1033
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: offense just not look anything like what we normally see.

1034
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: But then in the second quarter they started to connect

1035
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: on those shorter passes. So it was those short passes

1036
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and really the ability for Patrick Mahomes to read the

1037
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: defense and see that zone defense and then Travis Kelsey

1038
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: in the middle, like the fact that they left him open.

1039
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: Very confounding from Romeo Cornelle. But you know what, Patrick

1040
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: Mahomes took advantage of it. It's exploited that, you know,

1041
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: mismatch in the middle. What does your research, what do

1042
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: your numbers say about this? Uh contention? Anyway, Cynthia, there

1043
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: are those of us here in Buffalo who, probably not surprising,

1044
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: believe the Bills would have been or better matchup for

1045
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Houston Texans. Do you think that's

1046
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: the Bills if by better matchup you mean we would

1047
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: have seen a closer game. Absolutely. The thing that about

1048
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: the Bills, the defense and the linebackers. I went to

1049
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: BC Matt Mlano. I've been watching him since Boston College,

1050
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: like really great, Like the ability for the middle of

1051
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: that defense to just shut everyone down up. You already

1052
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: have to you know about Dr Davious White, you know

1053
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: about the pass rushers up front, but the middle of

1054
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: that defense is super impressive, very underrated, not talked about

1055
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: it enough. I don't think nishoy Now as we get

1056
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: into these games this weekend. What it Let's let's talk

1057
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: about the teams that their strengths their weaknesses, because both

1058
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: of them, you know, every team has its weaknesses stept

1059
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: they're trying to to hide. And how do those mesh

1060
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: in these games? And what do you think some of

1061
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: the matchups are going to be? You know, I think

1062
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: the interesting part for me when you see we're gonna

1063
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: start in the NFC, why don't we do that? Right? So,

1064
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: if you like to see last time the Niners matched

1065
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: up with the Packers, you saw Aaron Rodgers just get

1066
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: crushed five sack, just the pressure was too much. And

1067
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: then you saw Brian Bulaga up here on the injury

1068
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: report last week with an illness. He's supposed to be back.

1069
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's you know, he's going to be okay.

1070
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: But that's a huge deal when you think about this

1071
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: San franc Let's go front that. By the way, the

1072
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: front and the back been playing really well together when

1073
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: they've applied pressure. They have like a sub fifty passer

1074
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: rating allowed to posing pass catchers. So realistically, when you're

1075
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Rodgers, you have to look to see, Okay,

1076
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: how has he been under pressure this season, and he

1077
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: hasn't been under pressure very often. He's actually fifth fewest

1078
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: in terms of a number of dropbacks under pressure percentage wise.

1079
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: But when he's been under pressure, he has the fourth

1080
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: lowest passer rating. His receivers aren't getting open. The separation

1081
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: isn't there, especially when they didn't have Davontae Adams on

1082
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: the field. Now Davanta Adams is back, it will be

1083
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: a difference maker. But that's a tricky one. Yeah, it's tricky,

1084
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: and Rogers has kind of made his bones being unpredictable

1085
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: and tricky and able to make plays. Even if there's

1086
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: a strong pass rush, right, does that go away against

1087
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: a really good San Francisco defense. It doesn't go away.

1088
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: It becomes less probable because their new look offense is

1089
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: a bit different, right, so they have a lot more rushing.

1090
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has been super effective, set a record for

1091
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: the Packers in terms of touchdowns by that position, you know,

1092
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: for the team. And the interesting part there, it's like

1093
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: that's a taste thing. If you have a team that's

1094
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: rushing really effectively, like the Niners. We've seen their pastors

1095
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: that outside zone rushing scheme would really be effective from

1096
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: the Niners. Well then you're gonna need Aaron Rodgers that

1097
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: passing game to work. So it kind of emphasizes something

1098
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: that could be a problem. Right, So it's really going

1099
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: to come down to is the old line in the

1100
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: rushing scheme able to really stop that pressure from happening?

1101
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Is there any way to get a handle on what

1102
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: Who's going to benefit more from their first meeting? Are

1103
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the Packers gonna learn enough to make them competitive and

1104
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: be able to handle the pressure and have a better

1105
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: plan for it, or are the Niners just going to

1106
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: be too much? And you know, I mean who gains

1107
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: from a thirty eight to seven or thirty whatever was

1108
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: thirty seven to eight win thumping? To do the Packers

1109
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: benefit or do the Niners just know? I mean, it's

1110
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: just not going to make any difference. Well, both, Like

1111
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to health, right, Like you

1112
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: have to see now which team is more healthy? The

1113
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Packers have gotten more healthy, and they've got Davante Adams

1114
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: like huge deal bolangers should be back so that those

1115
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: are all pluses. But the Niners with t Ford and

1116
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: now Kaun Alexander being back, like that's that's a tough

1117
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: one because I give the advantage to the defense. However,

1118
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a close game. I

1119
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be the blowout we saw

1120
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: last time. I think it's going to be like a

1121
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: three or four point you know, differential between the winner.

1122
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: I think the Niners just eke over it because you

1123
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: have to remember the Packers defense have been playing really well.

1124
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Their ability to pressure the two Smith I don't call

1125
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: him the Smith brothers because they're not Brothers's crazy but

1126
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: that this is my well personal thing. But you know,

1127
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: their defense has played really well, and you've seen that

1128
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is able to turn the ball over and

1129
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: it's punished them. So you know, to me, it's it's

1130
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: going to come down to kind of which defense shows

1131
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: up and not making those early mistakes because if you

1132
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: fall behind against either one of these teams, they're gonna

1133
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: make you pay. Um. The forty nine Ers have done

1134
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: a pretty good job and getting an offense on the field,

1135
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: and their offense got a big boost when they got

1136
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders in that mid seasons. Can you talk about

1137
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: that what that trade has meant for the San Francisco offense, Cynthia, Yeah,

1138
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: So when before those slants to George Kittle, Yes, they

1139
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: are still super efficient. But at some point when if

1140
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: you bottle George Kittle up and then you have a

1141
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: bunch of young guys like Kendrick Borne, they're all like

1142
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: three or fewer player Deebo Samuel, these are young players.

1143
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: They're not that like kind of look. I mean, no, Sanders,

1144
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: he's not the fastest. I don't get I don't wanted

1145
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: to get mad at me. He's great. But what he

1146
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: does is his precision with route running, his ability to

1147
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: like be that predictable, you know nine like whatever they're calling,

1148
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: whatever route they call, His ability to exact the exact

1149
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: route that they want to like exactly run it to

1150
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: create the separation that not only creates a better opportunity

1151
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: for him, it creates a better opportunity for George Kittle,

1152
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: for Kendrick Bourne, for Deebo Samuel, like all of the

1153
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: other past catchers too. So his presence stretches the defense

1154
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: a ton, makes it a lot harder to defend, makes

1155
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: them way more multiple. What is Jimmy Garoppolo brought to

1156
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: the table. We were talking earlier in our show about

1157
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's a veteran guy who spent some time

1158
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: on the bench behind Tom Brady, got traded at and

1159
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: he lost last season. But he is about fully developed.

1160
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he is who he's gonna be. He's not

1161
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's gonna get better. What does he

1162
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: bring to the table. How does that compare to Aaron

1163
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers and how does it mess against the Green Bay defense.

1164
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Garoppolo's strength is that he's able to

1165
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: overcome some deficits, right Like, he does have some turnovers

1166
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: that have made they've been costly turnovers, but he doesn't

1167
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: seem to lose his like his grip, right like, he

1168
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: seems to be able to overcome Like remember that Hitsburgh game.

1169
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: They had so many turnovers, like five turnovers, and he

1170
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: was still competing at the end of the game. Which

1171
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: is that's an interesting one because that can be very difficult.

1172
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: You see, you know these developing guys, especially people who

1173
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: you know they didn't start off by being this high

1174
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: draft pick with whatever. You know they've they've been developed,

1175
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get paid a bunch of

1176
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: money and then you're in these close games you managed

1177
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: to win them. So I think his grit is really

1178
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: great and it's he's he seems very able to read

1179
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: defense as especially defenses that show him zonn I mean,

1180
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: George Kittle really helps that out a lot. Timing was

1181
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: perfect with that be out here. But ultimately he's a

1182
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: good He's not Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is you know,

1183
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: special and elite, and we've seen Aaron he there's no

1184
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: way that you don't think that the team has a

1185
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: chance to win with Aaron Rodgers. They're down by twenty points,

1186
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: it's the fourth Quarterly, we've seen that happen, right, Like, So,

1187
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a different level. But Jimmy Garoppolo is

1188
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: exactly what this offense needs and they've created the Shanahan

1189
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: Way with him. With Cynthia Freeland from the NFL Network,

1190
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: Cheese their analytics expert, let me take you back to

1191
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: the AFC matchup the Texans and yeah, I'm sorry the Titans,

1192
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: and the Titans went over the Ravens not entirely unpredictable.

1193
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: You've got some interesting numbers behind the Titans winning that game, right,

1194
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, ahead of the game, we really were looking

1195
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: into what happens when you play Lamar Jackson twice, like

1196
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: and if you can get a few, I'm gonna call

1197
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: them lucky. They had some lucky breaks earlier in that game,

1198
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: and then you also had some lucky things happen the

1199
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Titans did, like, for example, the Ravens had the most

1200
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: drops of their entire season in any one game. In

1201
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: that game, they had some flukey stuff things were able

1202
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: to do. They were able to completely capitalize on them

1203
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: and then slow the past down. If Lamar Jackson's playing

1204
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: from behind and you're saying, okay, typically our formula is

1205
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: to put heavy personnel on the field, meaning lots of

1206
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: tight ends and running backs. They are all supposed to block,

1207
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: and then Lamar Jackson rushes to the edge and he

1208
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: gets a really favorable matchup against the defensive end. That's

1209
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: maybe going the wrong way. Well, when you when you're

1210
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: asking Lamar Jackson to quickly read a defense, now you're

1211
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: playing from behind, you have to pass more on first

1212
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: down without getting kind of that rhythm that they were

1213
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: in prior, Well, then you're maybe gonna have some different

1214
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: things happened. Compound that with the drops, Compound that with

1215
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: the fact that Derrick Henry just took the air out

1216
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: of the ball in terms of you know, his efficiency

1217
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: and they're but thirty like thirty plus touches in two games,

1218
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Like ridiculous usage out of Derrick Henry and his ability

1219
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: to keep them earning first down. That was kind of

1220
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: like just the formula that didn't work for the Ravens,

1221
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: right Like, it was kind of this confluence of things,

1222
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: like we saw this offense we held to twelve points,

1223
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: like a ridiculously low amount considering what they were capable

1224
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: of earlier this season. Is it going to start to

1225
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: be a trend? Or I'm obvious sleep you know, critics

1226
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: come out rained down immediately after a young quarterback struggles

1227
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: the second year in a row, Lamar Jackson has looked

1228
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: played his worst in the biggest stage. Is that a trend?

1229
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: What can you how can you quantify that? If you can?

1230
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: I think the thing to take away from this MVP

1231
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: season for Lamar Jackson is that the front office, the

1232
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff, and the players they all worked together. Right,

1233
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: There's a reason this offense was so fun to watch.

1234
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: Like I was at that Rams game in person, Holy moly,

1235
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: it was amazing to see them right, like insane. So

1236
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: what you really want to say is that all of

1237
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: the cylinders were clicking together and they were working in

1238
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: lock step. Right. So that's like the ideal situation when

1239
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: you have the right sort of offense, the right sort

1240
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: of personnel, and the right sort of humans to execute it.

1241
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: But let's face it, every once in a while, some

1242
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: fluky stuff happens. This is why this is a National

1243
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Football League and not like you know, like it's not

1244
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: when team's not. These are playoff teams. They're all playoff contenders.

1245
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Anything can happen in any of these games, So you know,

1246
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: this is I think it's a very positive takeaway. If

1247
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Ravens fan, I'm stoked. If I'm a Bills man,

1248
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm stoked. Especially. Look, it might not be nice to

1249
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: not let Brian Dable not interview, but you need it.

1250
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: He's great. Yeah, Hey, Cynthia, tell me about Derrick Henry

1251
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: matchup with the Chiefs. It's a mismatch, right, and Henry's

1252
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: been amazing through a couple of postseason games already this year,

1253
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: but he might even take another step this Sunday. Right. Yeah,

1254
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: So the interesting part when you look at the Chiefs

1255
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: run defense and then you say, okay, we know Arthur

1256
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Smith that's the offensive coordinator for the Titans. We know

1257
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: Arthur Smiths gonna call Derrick Henry's number. I mean we've

1258
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: seen it, right, thirty plus touches in past three games

1259
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: at least, So that's an interesting thing to know. And

1260
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: what do defenses do? Will They typically load the box,

1261
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: so they put eight defenders or more in the box

1262
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: to try to stop the run. Get in his way? Well,

1263
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Yeah, okay, he has seven or twenty night

1264
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: rushing yards, that's what you know, just a cool four

1265
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: hundred more than the next closest player, the most touches,

1266
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: the most touchdowns, their red zone efficiency past five games

1267
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: ninety two percent. That's insane. You know why, Well, Derrick

1268
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Henry's created that extra space. So not only is it

1269
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: their formation and all of the things that they're doing

1270
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: strategy wise, but his ability I mean that jump, Okay,

1271
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: that one's just ridiculous, Like we don't necessarily expect that

1272
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: to happen. That one's an outlier. But his ability to

1273
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: consistently get you that first down, that's what he's doing.

1274
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: His yards after contact, his ability to just i mean,

1275
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: look last game when the Chiefs and the and the

1276
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: Titans matched up before, Henry had only four rushes against

1277
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: a loaded box, but one of them went for sixty

1278
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: eight yard touch On the other one, you know there

1279
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: was another touchdown in there too. But ultimately, if you

1280
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs, they've allowed the most yards on

1281
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: an average basis when they've stacked the box. So they're

1282
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna need to do something else and they're gonna need

1283
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Chris Jones to be healthy. So then let me ask

1284
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: you this too. And I know Derrick Henry is a

1285
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: special case, but are we seeing a change in strategy

1286
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: for playoff teams now where the run is as important,

1287
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: if not more important than the past? Is the league

1288
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: changing or is this just a weird year so far?

1289
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: So to be honest with you, if you the best

1290
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: you can do is match your person out with your

1291
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: strategy and also the game strategy. So if you're like

1292
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: the Titans right like they got up to an early

1293
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: lead and then they were able to rely on their

1294
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: run game, if they don't get into an early lead,

1295
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what happens, right, because that's a

1296
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: harder situation, harder defense to read, harder opportunity for Ryan

1297
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Tannehilly this is different, right, So ultimately you got to

1298
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: match your personnel with what you're trying to do. So

1299
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: if you have Derrick Henry, you'd better use it. If

1300
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: you don't, then you may need to find something else.

1301
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I think you like go

1302
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: out and put so much value on the running back.

1303
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: I think what you do is create value through your

1304
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: entire structure. I like that answer, and I also like

1305
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: the fact that you emphasize the early lead. I think

1306
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: that was critical in what Tennessee did. Huge does an

1307
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: early Yeah, but it's super harder over in Kansas City,

1308
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: and early lead obviously doesn't mean anything. They were down

1309
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: twenty four points and they didn't even batter night They

1310
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: got it back and more by halftime. I mean, it's

1311
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: that game was drunk insane. Yeah, so insane. Look, so

1312
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: people are going to get on bill Over for that

1313
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: for a down calling kick field. No, no, no, it

1314
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: was the defense. They keep playing zone defense with Travis

1315
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey in the red zone. What are you doing? Just

1316
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: put two men on Travis Kelsey. Right, that was the

1317
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: bad call, not the not the play call. Yeah, that's

1318
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, And if both these teams stay on schedule,

1319
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: and you know, Ryan Tannehill only does enough to keep

1320
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: them in that and their red zone efficiency is ninety

1321
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: Can they keep up with the Chiefs? You know, I

1322
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: think they can't. I don't think this is going to

1323
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: be high scoring game. Don't let the recency bias of

1324
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: like you know, you saw fifty one points from the Chiefs.

1325
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: That's a way different situation than what we're going to see.

1326
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be like, look, Dean Piece,

1327
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: he's a defensive coordinator for the Titans. He knows what

1328
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: he's doing here, right, Like Dean's played Andy a bunch

1329
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: like you forget, like he was with the Ravens before,

1330
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots before. This is a guy

1331
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: who's a super seasoned ravel has some tricks up his

1332
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: sleep too. I think it's going to be a lower

1333
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: scoring game, kind of one of those that you're gonna

1334
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, it's a little bit of a chess match,

1335
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: not so high flying. The fact seven possessions, seven touchdowns,

1336
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: right right, so you know that's kind of that's kind

1337
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: of what I would look at. So before we let

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: you go, Cynthia, give us you a super Bowl prediction.

1339
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win? This week, and who do you see

1340
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: in the big game? You know, I think we're gonna

1341
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: have an all red Super Bowl. So I think we

1342
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: have the Chiefs, and I think we have the Niners,

1343
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: and I think the Chiefs take it they for you know,

1344
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: avenge last year's kind of weird not birth to the

1345
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and hopefully we get a good one in Miami. Right.

1346
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: Thank Sorry. What you've been working at on the network?

1347
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: What's coming up? Analytics wise? What are you what are

1348
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: you looking at these days? Ooh, so I'm looking at

1349
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: some stuff when it comes to like we're already moving

1350
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: on to draft, Like I'm super excited already to look

1351
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: who are these prospects, Like, especially after that National Championship game, Like,

1352
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: let's go, like you could throw a dart and find

1353
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: a great wide receiver in this class. It's gonna be

1354
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: a really fun draft class. Yeah, that sounds good to

1355
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans. We're we're looking for one of those games.

1356
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Go And by the way, Buffalo fans, I the funny

1357
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: part about Buffalo fans this year, they didn't think that

1358
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: I was, like, on, I don't pick a lot favorite teams,

1359
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: but the Bills are right up there. I'm from Michigan.

1360
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: I know whatever, Lions, but I love I'm like a

1361
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: Bills fan. People will realize if I had to pick, why,

1362
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: why do you like the Bills? What do you like?

1363
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: What strikes you about that team? You know? First of all,

1364
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: how can you not have fun watching Josh Allen like

1365
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: like it is he is. That's an athlete right there,

1366
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: and that's it's just fun in his like ability to like,

1367
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I want to like ride on

1368
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: his back as a backpack for like one play, just

1369
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: to like see what he sees like it'd put a

1370
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: go pro on him or something, right, because I just

1371
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: want to see it, right. I love like the you know,

1372
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: look when you got the running back situation you have

1373
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: there is amazing. I left old and the young. It's

1374
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: like a great little And then is there anything better

1375
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: than your defense? Like Tardavious White to me, best corner

1376
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: this year not even close? Right, right, there's a lot

1377
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: to like you're right about. Thanks, Cynthia, Yeah, thanks for

1378
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: having me. Thank you Cynthia Freeland NFL Network Analytics X

1379
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: for joining us on the line. And she's got the

1380
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: Niners and the Chiefs. I think those are most people's

1381
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowls prediction. I guess um, I just ready to

1382
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: write off the Green Bay Packers, Steve. I think in

1383
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback battle, Aaron Rodgers has it as an edge

1384
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: over Jimmy Garoppolo, And I don't know, he doesn't have

1385
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: the defense that Garoppolo can rely on. He probably doesn't

1386
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: have the same supporting cast. But I'm not ready to

1387
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: forget about the Packers yet. On Sunday afternoon, of a sudden,

1388
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: we've seen Aaron Rodgers, you know, fall under a forty

1389
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: five degree angle the ground, flipping a ball across his

1390
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 1: body to the back corn of the end, zo into

1391
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: what into a space roughly the size of a five

1392
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: gallon bucket and dropping it from you know, from twenty

1393
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: yards and twenty five yards away. The guy makes throws

1394
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: nobody else can make. He attempts throws that nobody else

1395
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: even sees, and they come through for him. I mean,

1396
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: I think it does mean is something that these two

1397
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: teams have met and the Green Bay Packers got crushed.

1398
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: I think that says something to this team and they're

1399
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: going to have a different plan and a different mindset

1400
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: going in, and I think they'll be able to protect

1401
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers enough and they'll do enough thing with him to

1402
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: give him a chance to throw the football instead of

1403
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: getting sacked five times like he did and run around

1404
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: trying to escape. So they'll have a better plan. It's

1405
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: not going to be a thirty seven to eight game

1406
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: like it was or whatever. See not thirty seventy eight.

1407
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: It was. It was some crazy number. But I just

1408
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: think it's going to be closer than that. And I

1409
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: still think the Niners are a better team because of

1410
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: their defense, because of their balanced offense. I like Kyle

1411
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: Shanahan a lot. And they're at home. It's hard to

1412
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: win a game going into a good team's place when

1413
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: they're playing well. So I'm kind of with her. I

1414
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs and the and the Niners meeting in

1415
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and not for nothing, but all twelve

1416
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: teams who've played in the last six Super Bowls all

1417
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: had that first round by which spells doom for the Titans.

1418
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there's a lot of things that spell

1419
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: doom for the Titans this week. There really are. I'll

1420
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: tell you what, though the Tennessee Times are I think

1421
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: they're fans have gotta be like where you and I

1422
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: were two weeks ago. I want our team to win.

1423
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: I want to see our team play that. I want

1424
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: to see our team play those guys. I think the

1425
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan fans let's go play the Chiefs. Let's see

1426
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: what we can do against them. I know the players

1427
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: and coaches want a piece of them. Uh. And I

1428
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: think Mike Rabel's gonna have those guys playing well. It's

1429
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun game. Um. I hope you're right.

1430
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna be an overtime game

1431
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: or one of those field goal games. It might be

1432
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: a double digit win for one or the other. It might,

1433
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, for the Chiefs. The Chiefs may get a

1434
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: quick touchdown or two. But I you know, the Titans

1435
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: have got to feel really good about their chances of

1436
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: going in there and winning. Okay, I think they're gonna

1437
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they can do it either. Okay, but

1438
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: I still think I want to see the game too,

1439
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see it, watch it. They're

1440
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: they're kind of we're gonna get to this and maybe

1441
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: it'll be tomorrow's Twitter Twitter poll, like, who you which

1442
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: one of these four teams? And you look rooting for

1443
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: right and and why. I think maybe that'll be tomorrow's

1444
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. I'm not saying it yet, but there's a lot,

1445
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: there's a it's a great, great playoff season for the NFL.

1446
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: I know our team's out of it, and I'm bummed

1447
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: about it like everybody else here in Western New York. Man,

1448
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: oh man, I have really enjoyed all these games, even

1449
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: even that weekend when the Bills were in it, and

1450
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: of course the weekend since then, it's been It's been

1451
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of great games, a

1452
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: lot of fun stuff happening. Hey, we're talking about the

1453
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: draft a little bit order free agency, Like thinking of

1454
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: the Bills, what type of receiver do you think the

1455
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: Bills would need this offseason? Do they need a big,

1456
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: physical receiver like Eric moles Well, sixty three percent of you,

1457
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: almost two thirds of you say yes, that's the type

1458
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: of receiver they need. Do they need an all round

1459
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver like Andre Reid? Thirty three percent of you

1460
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: say that's the type of receiver they need. Do they

1461
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: need a speedy wide receiver like Jerry Butler? Three percent

1462
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: of you say that's the type. Other just one percent

1463
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Butler? Is it too long? Ago. Do people not

1464
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: remember Jerry Butler. Most of the people who remember Jerry

1465
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: Butler don't know how to use a Twitter. You can't

1466
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: right there, You know, we got a smart atleic on

1467
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: Twitter said, yeah, all your listeners over fifty will vote

1468
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: for Jerry Butler. Look, Jerry Butler is an important figure

1469
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise. He was a first

1470
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: round pick. He was a great wide receiver. His career

1471
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: was cut short by injuries. He was a really good receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think he's right next there to Molds in terms

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: of the greatest receivers in franchise history. I don't want

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: to dismiss him. I know, so you got to be

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know if there's an age you have

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: to me to remember him. Late fifties, Yeah, I mean,

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: why can't you know a little bit about your team's history. Welly,

1478
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: can't you be a twenty five year old guy. You

1479
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: got to see the guy to know how good he was.

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01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was good. He was really good,

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: really good good. One of the great receivers in franchise history.

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: That's why he's up there as as maybe the type

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01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: of receiver they might want at any rate. Give us

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01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: a call, we'll discuss. We got phone lines wide open

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01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight

1486
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. You can vote in

1487
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: the twitter pole. We'd love you to send in something

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: for the tweet sheet. What type of receiver do you

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: think the Bills need this offseason? We'll talk about them

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01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: when we return. One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Archard Park. This is Buffalo Radio.

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: Welcome Back. One goes five, John Murphy, Steve Tasker here

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01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: until three o'clock today. We got John Breach coming up

1494
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: at two o'clock former he's an observer of the NFL.

1495
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about the playoff games this week

1496
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: and about the Bills and what they where they go

1497
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: from here. I want to let's get into a little

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: What's for lunch? Steve. One of our favorite segments of

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: the show has been for years. We know we really

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: we had a good What's for Lunch segment yesterday? Don't

1501
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: you agree? We did? Very much? So what's for lunch?

1502
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: Do you take that bad looking chick a wing or

1503
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: do you take that live fish? On two between two

1504
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: pieces of white bread one from Colola too from column B.

1505
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: We pick what you want to eat for lunch. What's

1506
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: your favorite thing of the things that are presented to

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: you in each section of the menu, And here we

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01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: go go. Man figured leadership role for the Bills next year,

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01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: Mica or Tremaine Edmonds. I'm gonna go. Can I go first? Yep?

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Micah Hyde. He's already a leader

1511
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: on the back end of the defense. I think there's

1512
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: more room for him to grow with, especially without Lorenzo Alexander.

1513
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: I think he is a respect of his teammates on

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: offense end defense. I think he is smart. I think

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01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: he's a really good player. He's been a hair away

1516
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: from the Pro Bowl for this past year. Yeah, I

1517
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: think Michael Hyde. And it's not to say anything bad

1518
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: about Tremin Edmonds. This is actually a good question because

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01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: I think Tremaine Edmonds is becoming more and more and

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: more of a leader. But he'll go into his third

1521
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: year next year, he'll be Oh, he's gonna be old.

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty two years old. Next year could

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: be a third year, though, I think about it. Yeah,

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: what are you saying he's young? I still think Tremaine

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01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: Edmonds plays a bigger role. And there's some of this

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: going on too. And we all know that the position

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: you play does dictate a little bit about what you

1528
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: have to say in the locker room and who you affect,

1529
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: mostly because you have to talk to guys on the

1530
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: field in crunch time, in those moments in the game

1531
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: where it matters, and you gotta be the guy they

1532
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: got to see your face and hear your voice that

1533
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: falls on Tremaine Edmonds. Now Micah Hide is the same way,

1534
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: but Micah talks Tremaine. Tremaine talks to Micah Hyde, and

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: he talks to Trent Murphy, Star Lutu Lele, all the

1536
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: guys up front, and he makes sure those two halves

1537
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: of the defense are there. Plus he's the guy that

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 1: gets the signals in I think, just by the function

1539
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: of what he does and who he is, I think

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is gonna have a bigger leadership role because

1541
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question. It's expanding all the time.

1542
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the lead dog on that

1543
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: defense in the coming year, not that he wasn't this year,

1544
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: but listen, Micah Hyde and that secondary and Jordan Poor,

1545
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: your Tradavious White, Kevin Johnson. The secondary, I think really

1546
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: is it's a stellar bunch. They are really good. And

1547
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: I think the philosophy of this defense is coverage with

1548
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: pressure upfront, not pressure, and then the coverage can take

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01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: care of itself. So I think I think the marriage

1550
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: between those two is important. I think that puts Tremaine

1551
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: Edmunds in the front. So I'm gonna take Tremaine Edmunds

1552
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: rather than my guy. Both those guys are gonna be here.

1553
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: Both those guys are gonna be great players. Both those

1554
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have a lot to say about the

1555
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: success of the defense. But I think Tremaine is gonna

1556
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: be I think more and more the leader in the

1557
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: face of that defense. It's wrong about Tremine. He'll only

1558
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: be twenty two years old next year. Twenty that's what

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: you said, right, said? I think, didn't He turns twenty

1560
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: two and may got drafted at nineteen. Oh goodness. So,

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: and that's why Tremaine Edmunds plays until he's thirty five.

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 1: He'll he'll be here in Buffalo, right, We'll be tired

1563
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: of him by that, like like it'd be like the guy.

1564
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: He's like a family member, right for everybody, he'd be

1565
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: like part of the heritage of every Bills fan for

1566
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: like four decades. He turns twenty two on the May second. Wow,

1567
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: all right, what's for lunch? Better way to find a

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Draft or free agency? Look? Both are good ways,

1569
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a it's a false question. Here's

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 1: why if in certain positions free see it would be

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: better for the Bills next year, it's the draft one,

1572
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: because the draft is overloaded with good wide receivers. Cynthia

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: Freeland just said that a minute or two ago. Two

1574
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: because I think the Bills would prefer not to pay

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: an expensive price for a wide receiver. They prefer to

1576
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: get a good wide receiver in the draft and develop him.

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: And I guess it's it. I thought there was a

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01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: third answer, but no, I think that for the Bills

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01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: for this year, for twenty twenty, the draft is the

1580
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: best way to find a wide receiver. Yeah, if that's

1581
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: what's on the men, I gotta I gotta ask the

1582
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: waiter exactly what the menu says, because if it's a

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: better way to find any wide receiver as a general rule,

1584
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: that's different than saying just this year for the Buffalo Bills.

1585
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: I think this year for the Buffalo Bills, I think

1586
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: it is the draft. It's a deep draft class. You're

1587
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get a real quality guy with

1588
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 1: specific traits that you want. There's gonna be multiple guys

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: on the board in the first pick of the draft

1590
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: where the Bills pick, which is at what what is it,

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty two? They're twenty two, all right, twenty two,

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty two. There's gonna be a bunch of guys

1593
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: left on the board at twenty two for the Buffalo

1594
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: Bills that have the traits they are looking for, whatever

1595
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: those traits may be. And we've you know, we've got

1596
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: our Twitter pull out here and we've thrown that out there.

1597
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: What the traits they want are gonna be on the board,

1598
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be multiple guys there. I would, in fact, Murph,

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this too. And we'll get into this

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: as the offseason rolls onto the Bills may trade down.

1601
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: They may trade down to get a guy or if

1602
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: there's a guy who's you know, they I don't think

1603
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: the Bills will at LEAs put that. I don't think

1604
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: it's Bills. This is gonna be on another What's for lunch?

1605
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills will trade up or down?

1606
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: Because I think they'll move in the first round if

1607
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: there's that many wideouts and say like there's two that

1608
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: are off the board or three that are off the

1609
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: board before the Bills that are off the board. Of

1610
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,839
Speaker 1: the Bills pick at twenty two, they may trade sideways

1611
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: or down and get pick up a couple more picks

1612
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: down the way. If there's a team out there that

1613
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: is when you jump up for a guy they really

1614
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: think special and the Bills are like going on the guy,

1615
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: they may pick up another pick or two to to

1616
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: trade down a couple of picks or four picks or

1617
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: even a round or two. Um, So I'm I don't

1618
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: know that they'll pick right at twenty two, but I

1619
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: do think the draft is the way this year. I don't,

1620
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: I guess just because of the year it is in

1621
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: this season and we're talking about so I'm not gonna

1622
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: go with you. I'm gonna take that off the minuet

1623
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: draft a guy this year. Don't take a wide receiver

1624
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: in the free agency What's for lunch? Question three? Who

1625
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: will have a better pro career. Joe Burrow, the receiver

1626
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: from I don't know, quarterback, yeah, oh yeah, Joe Burrow,

1627
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,879
Speaker 1: quarterback from LSU, or Trevor Lawrence, a quarterback from Clemson.

1628
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: They're a year apart um. But I so I'm gonna

1629
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: pick Burrow. I think he's just I appreciate, uh, Trevor Lawrence.

1630
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: I just think Burrow has a lot more to offer

1631
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: as a quarterbacks. He's seems to be accurate enough. He's

1632
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 1: big and strong and seems to make the right reads.

1633
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: I would I would pick Joe Burrow. I'll take Trevor Lawrence.

1634
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna have another yeah, yeah, for nothing, not for nothing,

1635
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think he's got it. He's got a

1636
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: bigger arm. He runs well. I think he's although Burrow

1637
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: runs pretty good too. I think Lawrence is a better

1638
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: athlete and he's got a bigger arm. So all the

1639
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: traits or physical traits are there. I'll tell you this though,

1640
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, from what I've heard people talking about it,

1641
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I did this and he I

1642
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: saw this, But there's people who were wowed by the

1643
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: things that Joe Burrow did with his eyes, in his

1644
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: head in the National Championship game. But he's a year ahead.

1645
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: He's done, he's gonna come out and he's gonna be

1646
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: a pro. This year, Trevor Lawrence is gonna play yet

1647
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: another year of college football. And so with the traits

1648
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: he has and the things that are we've seen about

1649
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I might take him as a pro. I

1650
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: might take him as a pro in two years rather

1651
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: than Joe Burrow. Right now, here's the one for you.

1652
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,919
Speaker 1: Should MVP voting take place before or after the playoffs?

1653
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: I say before, Look, there's a sixteen game regular season

1654
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: that means something and it put in this year the

1655
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: play off and he hasn't won it yet. But the

1656
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: play of Lamar Jackson put the Baltimore Ravens in solid

1657
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: playoff contention. They were contenders upset last week, but what

1658
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: he did for sixteen weeks was important and I think significant.

1659
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: Um if they if they included the postseason in it,

1660
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: you know what, Derrick Henry might be the MVP. And

1661
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry wasn't even on the radar for the first

1662
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: month of the season. So yeah, I think it should

1663
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: be before the playoffs begin. I agree. I agree, And

1664
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: because everybody becomes prisoners at the moment. You know, this game,

1665
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, this championship game is the most important game

1666
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: of all time. Oh until next week? You know kind

1667
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: of thing? You know? They this run that they've made

1668
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: in the first two weeks of the playoffs. What happens

1669
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: if the Titans get beat by twenty you know, Derek

1670
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: and Derreck Henry rushes for fifteen yards um. That puts

1671
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: him off the map. And what you know, what if

1672
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson had gotten to this point? And then I'm

1673
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: with you, Murphy. The playoffs are a different season. You

1674
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: don't get to dictate your your playoff opponents or anything.

1675
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: And I like, and I see the value of the

1676
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: playoffs and all of that in the history and the

1677
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: historic nature of them. But this regular seat, the regular

1678
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: season is about the MVP. That's what it has to be.

1679
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: And I just think too many guys will be excluded

1680
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: from the conversation if you put it all about if

1681
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: you include the playoffs, because then anybody who didn't make

1682
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the conversation will be, well, they weren't that valuable.

1683
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's that's necessarily true. I agree

1684
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: one more, what's for lunch. Most trustworthy divisional playoff team

1685
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers or Chiefs. I'm not sure what the

1686
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: divisional means, but that means from the divisional round. Okay,

1687
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: most trustworthy winner from last week. Forty nine Ers and

1688
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: Chiefs are the favorites. They are. Cynthia Freeland just picked

1689
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: them is too favorites to win this weekend and go

1690
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Trustworthy means do you trust them

1691
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: to follow through? I think the Chiefs are more trustworthy because,

1692
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: quite frankly, the forty nine Ers, Kyle Shanahan, they've never

1693
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 1: been here before. The Chiefs have lost to New England

1694
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: last year in a really good AFC Championship game. I

1695
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: just trust the coaching staff for the Chiefs more than

1696
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: I trust the forty nine Ers. We've seen the Chiefs

1697
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: do this before, Ben, They've been in this game just

1698
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: a year ago. I've never seen the forty nine Ers

1699
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 1: accomplished this. So I'm going with the Chiefs here. I

1700
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: would say the forty nine Ers. I like the way

1701
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: their team's constructed, and the trustworthy means what. I don't

1702
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: know what that means. I think it, I don't know.

1703
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: I think that to show up and play well, would

1704
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: probably right. I mean, I guess what do you trust

1705
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: would not blow it? Being a favorite? Well, the Chiefs

1706
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: are in their second AFC Championship game in a row

1707
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: at home, and they got beat last year at home

1708
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: the Niners. They're the number one seed. The Chiefs are

1709
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: the number two seed. The Niners have a more well

1710
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: rounded offense and certainly a much better defense than the Chiefs.

1711
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: I just like the way they're constructed better. I think that,

1712
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: and for me, that means the most trustworthy to show

1713
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: up and give a good performance. Okay, the Chiefs. You know,

1714
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: they Chiefs were flat last week. They showed out, you know,

1715
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: got hit in the mouth real quick. Now, I certainly

1716
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: they had the firepower to come back. But I think

1717
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: if you're gonna say that, then you have to say, well,

1718
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are a little bit one dimensional. I don't

1719
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: think that's a trustworthy way to go. All right, let's

1720
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: take your call here, Curtis and Niagara Falls. Go ahead, Curtis,

1721
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: you'reround the air with us. Hey, what's up, Johns? Steve,

1722
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: how you're doing good? Good? Hey Johns? I exactly know

1723
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: who Jerry Butler is. We were blessed to have him, Kenny,

1724
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I know how old are you, Curtis, Ha ha ha,

1725
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Sixty. I'm sixty. But I remember

1726
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: particularly I think it was a season opener or the

1727
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: home opener against the Jets. He torched them. Yeah, I

1728
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: remember he reached over the DB's head for applied for

1729
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: a little short, picked over his head and the DV

1730
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: wasn't want to catch him. It was like eighty something

1731
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: out of for a touchdown. If I'm not mistaken. He

1732
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 1: scored two long touchdowns that game. And the saying was

1733
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: the Butler did it? Yeah, man, oh my god. He

1734
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: was great. He was great, and he was a great

1735
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 1: combination with Joe Ferguson. He I admitted it's a long

1736
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: time ago, forty years ago in nineteen eighty when Jerry Butler.

1737
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: But he was a really good player. And I think

1738
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: more than anything, he represents a prototypical type of receiver,

1739
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: a speed guy. He wasn't tall, really big. Yeah he

1740
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: was tall. He wasn't he was a slender guy. Yeah,

1741
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: but he was tall. He was six two, if not

1742
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 1: maybe six two and a half. He was, but he wasn't.

1743
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't thick like Eric Moles and as that, but

1744
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: he was a guy, and he was the guy. He

1745
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: was the number. He was a true big time number

1746
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: one receiver and he was fast. Um, so I get.

1747
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called Curtis because you're right, Jerry. Uh.

1748
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a generation ago, so you know, guys

1749
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: our age are really the only people who can kind

1750
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: of remember him. But he was. He was legit, no

1751
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: question about it. Did he have a track background in college? Yeah, Clemson,

1752
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: clem Clemson guy. Yeah, yeah, Oh my god, man, it

1753
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: was awful. Never get the game. Matter of fact, I

1754
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: definitely remember he got Uh. I'm not sure if he

1755
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: won an AFC Rookie yere, but I didn't know. He

1756
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: was a scum rookie of the Rookie of a week.

1757
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: For that performance, gonna suggest that's the That's the game

1758
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: that stands out my mind whenever people mentioned Jerry Butler. Yeah,

1759
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: good stuff, great player, Thanks for your call. We're gonna

1760
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: take a break, care We'll be back with more. It's

1761
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by a Collada Health coming here

1762
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,839
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo

1763
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. It's One Bills Live company from Orchard Park.

1764
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: From the Seneca Studio. I'm John Murphy with Steve Tasker.

1765
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: John Breach is gonna join us at two o'clock talk

1766
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: with him about a couple of issues regarding the championship games.

1767
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: The meantime, our Twitter poll today, what type of receiver

1768
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: do you want the Bills to get this season? Fred?

1769
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: And Hamburg? I think as some thoughts on this, Fred,

1770
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: are you there? Hello? Fred? Hi's all yeah, how are

1771
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: you good? Hey? I hope A question if make of

1772
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: these baseball can get this right? How come the NFL

1773
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: camp when it comes down to team shooting like when

1774
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: they had Patriots got caught a couple of times? Could

1775
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: you kind of guys if you've never read on that

1776
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: for me? What, um? What makes you think Major Major

1777
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: League Baseball got it right? Because um, I mean they

1778
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: went after they went after the coach, They went after them,

1779
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 1: the management, you know, and and and the owner, and

1780
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: they end up finding the owner of Houstons. Now, I

1781
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: don't know they got it right. I don't think it's

1782
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: over yet. How do you think what do you think

1783
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: the NFL has missed well? I mean because it seems

1784
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: as though that um, I mean the Patriots, for example,

1785
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: been in writhen with them more than one time, and

1786
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: I think if you penalize them hard enough and you

1787
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: take some of them away from him, I think some

1788
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: of us have stopped. So they did, though, take stuff

1789
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: away from the Patriots. They took away draft picks. Yeah, money, money,

1790
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: I get Tom Brady sat out the first four weeks

1791
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: that one season. I think the Patriot to paid a

1792
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: price for their They've got hit pretty hard. But they've

1793
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: also said and I think one of the things that

1794
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: gets people going is they they're kind of they're not contrite.

1795
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, they're not like, oh sorry, we shouldn't have

1796
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: done that, or they're like going, Okay, you got us

1797
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: that time, but you know, see if you can catch

1798
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: us this next time. You know, that's kind of their attitude,

1799
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: and that get rubs people a lot of people the

1800
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: wrong way. And when they display that attitude and don't

1801
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: apologize for it, it always puts everybody on edge, like, Okay,

1802
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: what are they doing that we don't know about? And

1803
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what the mentality is when when

1804
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, you Fred, You're looking at

1805
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: him and you're saying, you know, you should have hit

1806
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: them so hard that they never ever think about doing

1807
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: it again. I don't think you're ever gonna be able

1808
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: to hit them that hard. Although I read a thanks

1809
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: for calling Fred a really really interesting piece New York

1810
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: Times this morning. I think about what they're not doing

1811
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: to the Houston Astros, or the Red Sox or the Mets.

1812
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: Carlos beltran out as manager of the Mets. They're not

1813
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: vacating wins. They're not taking away those World Series titles.

1814
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Do I want to see that? I don't know. I

1815
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I do. But the fact that they're

1816
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: not says something about the way these leagues accept really cheating.

1817
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 1: And the NFL hasn't vacated titles either. And here's the thing,

1818
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: and it was a really good piece in New York Times.

1819
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I think it was New York Times today. I read

1820
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: here's the real damaging part. It's the message. I know

1821
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: this sounds corny and trite, but the message it sends

1822
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: to young people, kids who follow baseball or who follow

1823
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: the NFL in those cases, and not so much of

1824
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: what happened this past year with the Patriots. I don't

1825
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: think that's I don't think that's a I don't think

1826
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: that's even significant, but we can disagree about that. But

1827
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: they never send the message. These leagues never send the

1828
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 1: message like this is serious, this is you're cheating, and

1829
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: there's an honor really that you can find a million

1830
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: ways to cheat, and the Patriots have apparently, and there's

1831
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: got to be like an honor code, like hey, we

1832
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: win and we don't cheat and you shouldn't either, and

1833
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: they don't send that message. It's like whatever we get

1834
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: away with is okay. The Patriots have gotten away with stuff,

1835
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: The Astros and Red Sox got away with stuff. Yes,

1836
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: individuals are paying serious prices, but I just think it's

1837
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: it's I don't know what to do about it. Steve,

1838
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this issue. I think it's the

1839
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: fact that there's no vacating wins and no vacating titles

1840
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: involved in the baseball situation. I think, to me says

1841
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: something about the message that's been sent to young people

1842
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: following me the game. It's like, well, it's okay if

1843
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. And one of the

1844
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: bad things that's been bandied about outside the league, and

1845
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much. While some reporters are talking about it,

1846
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: they didn't come down too hard on the Astros or

1847
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: Red Sox because they're starting to find out that it's

1848
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: a little more widespread than just those two teams. There

1849
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: might be other teams who are doing similar or kind

1850
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: of like it, or doing everything they can to steal

1851
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: signs or whatever, maybe not to this extent, or maybe worse,

1852
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: who knows, but it seems as though they kind of got,

1853
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, in the back channels, they said, if they're

1854
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: going to come down every really hard on those guys,

1855
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: there may be a little bit of a rash of

1856
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: other teams who are going to get blown in by

1857
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: other by other players and other coaches or whoever who

1858
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: have switched teams and gone someplace else or whatever. So

1859
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: there may be it might be one of those things

1860
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: where they kind of get after these guys and they

1861
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: turn over that rock and you find out under that

1862
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: rock there's a lot of bugs under that rock, not

1863
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: just one or two that you thought there were. And

1864
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: that's where I think major League Baseball and I don't have,

1865
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, any high regard for Major League Baseball handing

1866
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: this correctly, nor do I think the NFL did, But

1867
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,839
Speaker 1: I think in what we're seeing is Major League Baseball

1868
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: dealing with it, handing on punishments, but trying to keep

1869
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: it under wraps, trying not to overblow it so that

1870
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't mar the beginning of a new season, right.

1871
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they know they're a business. They need business,

1872
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: and they need ratings and they need fans in the stands,

1873
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: and they don't want to they don't want to. You know,

1874
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: they can unveil this stuff, but they don't want to

1875
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: completely overturn the entire Major League Baseball system. And you're right,

1876
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: I think it does send kind of a poor message.

1877
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: And I don't know, We're talking about a grown men

1878
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 1: and an adult league play for keeps, and you know,

1879
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 1: the message they send to the youth of America's probably

1880
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: somewhere a little bit, probably for our taste, probably a

1881
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: little too far down the list in their priorities. But

1882
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: there is sign of this kind of this atmosphere that

1883
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: when the stakes get really high, guys are going to

1884
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 1: get around the back. You know, they are going to

1885
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: try and bend really, they are going to try and

1886
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 1: film defensive signals. They are going to try and steal

1887
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: signs in baseball, They are going to try and find

1888
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: out what the other team is doing. In some other

1889
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: way or shape or form that is a little bit

1890
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: outside the spirit of the game. So I think that's

1891
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: a message that is becoming all too common that when

1892
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: the stakes get high, nobody is surprised that somebody's trying

1893
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: to cheat anything. Yeah, and it's too bad. It's too bad. Okay,

1894
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: So we're gonna break here. I'm looking at the rundown.

1895
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: We got John Breach coming by at two o'clock, Mike

1896
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Sando about twenty five minutes after two. We got a

1897
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: big third hour of the show coming up, So come

1898
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Speaker 1: on back with us. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida

1899
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is

1900
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Stories. Update comes from

1901
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The Bills have declined permission for the

1902
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: New York Giants to interview offensive coordinator Brian day Bole

1903
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: for the offensive coordinator job in New York. Daboll was

1904
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: on the Patriot staff with Joe Judge, the new head

1905
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: coach of the New York Giants. He was high on

1906
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: top of Judges whistless when he was hired by the Giants.

1907
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: According to multiple sources, the Giants requested permission for judge

1908
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: to interview day Ball, the sources said, but that permission

1909
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: was denied by the Bills. Meantime, the Giants were moving on.

1910
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: They interviewed former Dallas Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett to

1911
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: be their offensive coordinator yesterday. No word on how that

1912
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: interview went. We are a couple of days away now

1913
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: from the championship games in each of the NFL conferences.

1914
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: The Titans and Kansas City Chiefs played for the AFC

1915
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: title three o five pm at Everhead Stadium in Kansas City.

1916
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: The Chiefs lead the all time series with the Titans

1917
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine wins the twenty four, but the Titans won

1918
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: the last three times they have played. San Francisco forty

1919
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: nine Ers tighten George Kittle. In addition to their participation report,

1920
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: he did not practice yesterday afternoon. He's got an ankle injury.

1921
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Hittle dealing with ankle sourness. After the win over Minnesota.

1922
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine Ers at home on Sunday

1923
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: the late game six forty pm against the Green Bay

1924
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Packers with the NFL for the NFC Championship. Multimam Platinum

1925
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: singer songwriter Demi Levado we'll see the national anthem as

1926
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: part of the Super Bowl pregame festivities at hard Rock

1927
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: Stadium in Miami Sunday, February second. Odell Beckham Junior handed

1928
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: out real cash to LSU players post game on Monday night.

1929
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: The money that Beckham distributed on the field after the

1930
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: championship win was real, Backers quarterback Joe Burrow said in

1931
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: an interview released yesterday. The LSU Athletic Department issue a

1932
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: statement saying it was aware of video showing apparent cash

1933
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 1: being given to players by Beckham. It has been in

1934
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: contact with the NCAA and the SEC regarding the matter.

1935
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: Sabers are in data to play the Stars tonight, eight

1936
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: thirty Face up, Jack cho riding in eight game point

1937
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: street four goals, ten points in that span. That's the

1938
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in

1939
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio, joined down the line by CBS

1940
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: NFL dot com writer John Breach. John, thanks for joining us.

1941
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: You're joining us on short notice too. We appreciate that,

1942
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, no problem. It's it's big

1943
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: championship week, guys. I'm ready for anything on short notes

1944
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah, it was really some of the

1945
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: stuff you've got out on CBS Sports website. You I

1946
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: was surprised because you said one of the most unpredictable

1947
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: teams in this postseason has been the Tennessee Titans, and

1948
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was just the opposite. They're the most

1949
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: predictable team ever. Just all they do is turnaround, hand

1950
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: it to Derry Henry. Is that what you meant in

1951
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: your article? No, yeah, their offense is the most predictable ever.

1952
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: But as far as being the most unpredictable team in

1953
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs that you know, in the wild card round,

1954
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: everybody thought the Patriots were gonna win, and then boom,

1955
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: the Titans came and win. Last week, everyone thought the Ravens,

1956
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna win. Broom, the unpredictable happened and the Titans win.

1957
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: And now we're dealing with those same storylines this week

1958
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: where everyone thinks the Chiefs are gonna win, and now,

1959
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure anybody should feel comfortable picking

1960
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: against the most unpredictable team in the playoffs. Huh. You've

1961
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: made some bold predictions for that game in the NFC game,

1962
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: among them the fact that you think that Ryan Tannehill

1963
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: will throw more touchdown passes than Patrick Mahomes. What do

1964
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: you see capping in there, John Well? I think that

1965
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill has gotten extremely overlooked, you know. I think

1966
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: people look at him, They're like, hey, it's Ryan Tannehill.

1967
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything in the playoffs. Why is it

1968
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: possible for this to happen? But if you look at

1969
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: what he did during the regular season. Look, he started

1970
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: ten games and in nine of those ten games he

1971
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: threw multiple touchdown passes. So this is a guy who

1972
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 1: comes through when the Titans have needed them to, you know,

1973
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 1: highest QB rate in the NFL this year, highest yards

1974
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: per attempt. But the playoffs, the Titans haven't needed him

1975
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: to do anything because Dereck Henry's just steamrolling through everybody,

1976
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: and you look at Yeah, Mahomes could have a big game.

1977
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, over the past ten weeks, Ryan Tannehill has

1978
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: actually thrown more touchdown passes then Patrick Mahomes. I think

1979
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: it's eighteen to sixteen. So it just wouldn't surprise me

1980
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: at all if Ryan Tannehill comes down and throws two

1981
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: or three touchdown passes. Because the Chiefs are gonna be

1982
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: so zoned in on stopping Derek Henry that I think

1983
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: it could open a few things up for him. You're

1984
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: one of the fell one of your other big predictions

1985
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with. I think somebody, no matter

1986
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: who it is, whether it's Kittle or Tyreek Hill or somebody,

1987
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,520
Speaker 1: I think one of these receivers in the AFC Championship

1988
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: game for the Chiefs are going to set a record

1989
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 1: for how many times they catch the ball. Y had

1990
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: two guys with double digit or almost double digit catches

1991
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: last week. The record is eleven or twelve catches by

1992
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson for the Colts way back in the day,

1993
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: had one hundred and fifty one yards on twelve catches.

1994
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: I think that number may be in jeopardy this week. Yeah.

1995
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean we all know the Chiefs love to throw

1996
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the ball. And if you look back at that Week

1997
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: ten game when the Chiefs and Titans played, Patrick Mahomes

1998
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: actually had his highest pass attempt total of the season.

1999
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: He through fifty passes. Tyreek Hill caught eleven passes in

2000
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: that game. And I feel like when teams play the Chiefs,

2001
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: they they really seem to key in on one guy.

2002
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Last week when Houston, Kansas City played really to Texans

2003
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: put most of their defensive attention on Tyreek Hill and

2004
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 1: then boom, Kelsey blew up and had ten catches for

2005
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four yards. So you kind of

2006
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: have to pick your poison with the Chiefs with their

2007
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: receiving corps, and then whatever guy you end up going

2008
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 1: man to man with or only having one guy on,

2009
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: that's the guy that kills you. So it does feel

2010
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: like there will be a Chiefs receiver in this game

2011
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: who goes for twelve or thirteen reception. Yeah, both these

2012
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: matchups in the championship games and both conferences. These games

2013
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: have happened earlier in the season. And I'm asking about

2014
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Kansas City game. How are these teams different

2015
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: now than they were the first time they met. You

2016
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: mentioned some of the statistics from that, but how are

2017
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: the teams different? Well, I would say the Titans are

2018
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: playing some of their best defensive football of the season.

2019
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: You know, I understand that they didn't really get any

2020
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: respect after the Patriots game because it was like, hey,

2021
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: Patriots have a forty three year old quarterback. Their offense

2022
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: has been lipping around all seasons, so it wasn't a

2023
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: total surprise that the Titans shut them down, But hey,

2024
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: they just stopped the most prolific offense in the NFL

2025
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens. They absolutely shut down Lamar Jackson.

2026
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 1: You know, they Ravens didn't score a touchdown Uni. It

2027
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: was basically garbage time in the second half, and so

2028
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 1: that just you look at that game, and the Titans

2029
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: defense is just playing so well, and they've been improving

2030
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: since that Chiefs game, which I think was arguably their

2031
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: worst defensive performance of the season. They gave up five

2032
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards of offense Chiefs going up and

2033
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: down the field. They probably would have won the game

2034
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: if they didn't have a few special teams misused. And

2035
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, I just think that that was a

2036
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: game where Patrick Mahomes. That was his first game back

2037
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: from his ankle, knee, all his leg injuries that he

2038
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: was dealing with, and so it felt like he was

2039
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 1: a little timid. He wasn't running around. We saw him,

2040
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was a rushing leader against

2041
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: the Texans this past weekend, but he wasn't doing any

2042
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: of that against the Titans because it felt like he

2043
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to take any hits because he was coming

2044
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: off the injury. So I think having a mobile Mahomes

2045
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: opens up the Chiefs offense a little bit more, and

2046
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense is playing better too. In fact, you

2047
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: think defense and it's gonna be okay for both teams.

2048
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Right among your bold predictions, neither a fast or neither

2049
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: AFC team will score more than thirty points in the

2050
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: championship game, Is that right, John? Yeah? I think that.

2051
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, we know the Titans are gonna give the

2052
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: ball to Derrick Henry. That is gonna happen. It could

2053
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: be thirty carries, it gonna be forty carries, to be

2054
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: fifty carries. They might give him the ball on every

2055
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: single play if the Chiefs can't stop him. And you know,

2056
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: if Derrick Henry can run the ball, that is how

2057
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: you beat the Chiefs. You just keep the clock moving.

2058
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: You shorten the game. Chiefs can't score fifty points if

2059
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: they have the ball six times because Derrick Henry's running

2060
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: up and down the field and chewing up clock. And

2061
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: so I think the Titans game plan is gonna work.

2062
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're gonna win, but no one

2063
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: has been able to stop Derrick Henry, yet no one's

2064
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 1: been able to stop him for the past eight weeks.

2065
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: The Chiefs couldn't stop him the first time they played him,

2066
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: so it does feel like he's gonna get his yardage

2067
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 1: no matter what, which is gonna make it tougher for

2068
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs of score because you're just not gonna have

2069
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: the ball as many times. And you know what the

2070
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: Chiefs this year had, they didn't really do a good

2071
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: job of playing great on offense. In consecutive weeks. They

2072
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 1: scored thirty points I think seven times, and they only

2073
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: scored more than thirty points in consecutive weeks once. So

2074
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: one of those seven times, they turn around and scored

2075
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: thirty points the next week, So you know, they just

2076
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: haven't been able to put it together for two consecutive weeks.

2077
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things about these playoffs is we've

2078
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: seen a lot of weird stuff statistically because of the

2079
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and because of what happened to the Chiefs

2080
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: last week. But there's been only three teams in history

2081
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 1: that have won multiple more than one playoff game by

2082
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: throwing under a hundred yards and the other two teams

2083
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: one was the seventy two Dolphins. It was three teams,

2084
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: seventy two Dolphins, seventy three Dolphins, and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2085
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: All those teams were in the seventies and all of

2086
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: them won the Super Bowl. Now do the Titans. Does

2087
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: that make it good for the Titans? Or does it

2088
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: make at least like less likely for the Titans that

2089
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: they can win this game and get into and do

2090
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: the ga Are they gonna be able to throw for

2091
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: less than a hundred yards and still win in Kansas City?

2092
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy because if you would ask me

2093
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: this question before the playoffs started, I would have probably

2094
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: broke down laughing, saying there's no way a modern team

2095
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: in this past happy era could ever win the Super

2096
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: Bowl if their quarterback through for under one hundred yards

2097
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 1: and three straight games. I don't care who the running

2098
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: back is. But now, after watching how this game plan,

2099
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: watching this Titans offensive game plan play out perfectly over

2100
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the past two weeks, it does feel like this could

2101
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: potentially happen again. You know, as you mentioned back in

2102
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: the seventies, that's kind of expected. Even then it was

2103
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of rare though, because still it only happened three times.

2104
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: But it does feel like if Ryan Tannell's hitting those

2105
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: big throws, he'll answer to throw ten passes. He's completing

2106
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: eight for ninety yards and three touchdowns. That's a highly

2107
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: efficient game in those eight throws are usually backbreaking ones.

2108
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I think his best throw again the Patriots was the

2109
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: one that clinched the game, is on a third down

2110
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: through an out route that you know, most people probably

2111
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: thought Tannehill couldn't make, and so he's just been coming

2112
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: up with clutch throws throughout the season, especially in the playoffs.

2113
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 1: So I do think it's possible that they could. But

2114
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: I think Ryan tan Hill is probably gonna have to

2115
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: go for probably over one fifty in this game if

2116
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 1: the Titans have a real chance to win. Yeah. So

2117
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs get into that game last week for the

2118
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and the teams together score what eighty two

2119
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: points something like that. I mean, what do you think

2120
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: the point total is going to be for the Titans

2121
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs games in this one? I mean, do you think

2122
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: one team scores thirty or both teams score thirty or

2123
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: how do you think it's going to play out? Yeah,

2124
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: So obviously the bold prediction was that both teams would

2125
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: get under thirty. My actual prediction for the game was

2126
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty seven. I think that if this turns

2127
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 1: into an all out shootout, like if the Chiefs score

2128
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 1: forty points, they're gonna win the game. I don't think

2129
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: the Titans can get up to forty, but you know,

2130
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: we just saw in that Week ten game the Titans

2131
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 1: can score. They beat the Chiefs thirty five to thirty two.

2132
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people they see Derrick Henry,

2133
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: they see this team that runs the ball at the time,

2134
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: they think that the Chiefs the Titans can't put up points.

2135
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: The Titans were one of the ten highest scoring teams

2136
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. They were putting up points

2137
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: every week. Once Ryan Tannehill, it took over his quarterback.

2138
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 1: You know, we saw him put up twenty eight against

2139
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: the Ravens, who had a pretty good defense this season.

2140
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: So I do think that, you know, as long as

2141
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 1: the scoring stays under thirty five, I think the Titans

2142
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: can win. But if anybody goes over thirty five points,

2143
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: I think that it's pretty much a lock the Chiefs winning.

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01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Live out the Line with John Breed, CBS NFL writer

2145
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: co host of the Pick six podcasts, let's turn your

2146
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: attention to the NFC game. Another bull prediction you have made.

2147
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 1: You say that Aaron Rodgers will throw three touchdown passes

2148
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. Does that mean the Packers will win?

2149
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, I do not think the Packers are going

2150
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: to win, but I do think obviously that first game

2151
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty seven to eight, I think it is going to

2152
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: be much closer that I think. A weird thing about

2153
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is that he's actually been in like these

2154
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 1: weird situations where he got absolutely blown out. The Packers

2155
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 1: got blown out in the regular season and then came

2156
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: and played a really close game in the playoffs. Back

2157
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, the Packers lost to the Arizona Cardinals

2158
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: thirty eight to eight in the regular season and then

2159
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs and lost in overtime. That classic

2160
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: NFC title game against the Seahawks in the twenty fourteen

2161
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: season that the Packers and Seahawks went to overtime in

2162
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: the Seahawks won. The Seahawks had beaten the Packers thirty

2163
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: six to sixteen and the regular season, and everybody just

2164
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: kind of assumed the NFC title game was gonna be

2165
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: a blow up because of that beat down the Packers took.

2166
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 1: So it's like this is something almost that Aaron Rodgers

2167
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: has dealt with regularly, which doesn't seem possible. And he's

2168
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: one of the smartest quarterbacks, most intellectual quarterbacks in the NFL,

2169
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: and I just don't see him struggling against the same team.

2170
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna watch that film for that first game,

2171
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: and obviously the fort Air is gonna make their adjustments,

2172
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: But it does feel like Aaron Rodgers a fastler, and

2173
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna have a pretty big game,

2174
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: But I just don't think the Packers defense is going

2175
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: to be able to slow down the forty ninety. And

2176
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: we sometimes forget that Aaron Rodgers has played in three

2177
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: NFC Championship games already. He won one, he's lost two.

2178
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: Do you think this is going to come down? And

2179
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: a couple of the ones he lost a couple of

2180
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 1: bunch of years in a row that with Mike McCarthy,

2181
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: the Packers were one play away from advancing either a

2182
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 1: division round the championship game round. There you know one

2183
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: weird play away. You remember the Dez Bryant catch that

2184
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: winning the Packers favor all of the stuff that's happened

2185
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 1: over Aaron Rodgers career. Do you expect this game to

2186
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: come down to a play like that? Is it going

2187
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: to come down to the wire? Given Aaron Rodgers history

2188
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: and the Packers with the rookie head coach, and the

2189
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: Niners and Kyle Shannon, I mean, is this the way

2190
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: these teams are constructed? Do you see this come being

2191
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: a close game down to the wire? I wouldn't be surprised.

2192
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: And you know, you just mentioned a lot A lot

2193
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: of people associate the New Orleans Saints with all these

2194
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: crazy losses, but the Packers were the original Saints. We

2195
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: had that Cardinal Sackers game I mentioned that was where

2196
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers through the Hail Mary to get overtime and

2197
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: then the car the Packers end up losing. Anyway, that

2198
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: Seahawks game is where the Packers led I think nineteen

2199
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: to six. They led by two touchdown with two minutes

2200
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: left in the game and somehow blew it, you know.

2201
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: And so they've had some really really tough losses in

2202
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: the Mike mccarthurre but now you know those games they

2203
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: always Aaron Rodgers. It was if Aaron Rodgers has a

2204
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: bad game, they can't win. The whole team was focused

2205
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: around whether or not Aaron Rodgers had a good game.

2206
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: This team's built differently under Matt Lafour. It's defense, it's

2207
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: can they run the ball, And so as long as

2208
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just he doesn't have to be great. If

2209
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: he just plays slightly above average football, I think the

2210
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Packers can stay in. I do think this is going

2211
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,759
Speaker 1: to be a one score game. I won't be surprised

2212
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: if it does come down to the wire. John, you

2213
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: see a defensive touchdown coming in the NFC Championship game, right,

2214
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 1: that's one of your Bowl predictions. That is you know

2215
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and I think that forty nine Ers fans

2216
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: watching that game against the Vikings blast Week probably got

2217
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,839
Speaker 1: a little nervous because he made some if he throws.

2218
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: He threw an interception early in the game, and he

2219
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: threw thirteen interceptions during the twenty nineteen season, which was

2220
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: the most in the NFL. He fumbled the ball ten times,

2221
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 1: which was ten worst among quarterbacks. You know, he's up

2222
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 1: there with James Winston for most fumble So, Jimmy Garoppolo,

2223
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: he had a good season when he was throwing the ball,

2224
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 1: but sometimes he was prone two turnovers, which is obviously

2225
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,799
Speaker 1: not something you want to see. And so just because

2226
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 1: of that, I could see the Packers scoring a touchdown.

2227
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: And then obviously you have the forty nine ars defense,

2228
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: which has been great off season. Their defense scored five

2229
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty nineteen, which was the second most of

2230
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 1: any defense in the NFL. So if they, if any

2231
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: defense can score, it is the forty nine Ers. I

2232
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they put up some point. One

2233
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: of the other things about your bold predictions and I

2234
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: want to see it here the scenario you have in

2235
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: your head. Robbie Gold, the kicker is going to tie

2236
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: the NFC title game for five field goals. What's the

2237
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: scenario and the characteristic of this game that makes you

2238
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: think Robbie Gold could get to and the Niners would

2239
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: have to settle for a field goal five times? Yeah.

2240
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: I think we kind of saw this beginnings of what

2241
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: kind of scenario would have to play out last week

2242
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: in the divisional round where we had let's see the

2243
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: second half. I think it was fourteen to ten in

2244
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: the fort nine ers first drive of the whatever, it

2245
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: was fourth and two. They were in the red zone,

2246
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: they could have gone for it, gone for a touchdown.

2247
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan called for the field goal. He's playing it

2248
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: safe just because he wanted the points because it was

2249
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: a close game. And then I distinctively, I think there

2250
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: was one late in the third quarter where they had

2251
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: a fourth and goal from the Vikings three yard line. Again,

2252
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: they could have gone for a touchdown because at the

2253
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: time it was twenty four to ten, you kind of

2254
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: want to put the game away, but no, he took

2255
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: the field goal again. So Kyle Shanahan, he's a bull

2256
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: decision maker, but he has shown that he's conservative when

2257
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: it comes to points. But he just wants the point.

2258
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: He's a coach who doesn't say, hey, we're gonna go

2259
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: for the touchdown. If the field goals there, we're gonna

2260
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: take it. In a close game, and if the Packers

2261
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: can keep this close, I think the forty niners gonna

2262
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: be able to move up and down the field. But

2263
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: they struggled in the red zone this year, and because

2264
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: of that struggling, I think Shanahan's gonna just say, hey,

2265
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: if we get in the red zone and we're in

2266
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: a spot where it's fourth and short, We're gonna take

2267
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: the points because after we did this season, that's what

2268
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: got us to thirteen and three, and that's what I'm

2269
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna do in this game. So prediction wise, John, you

2270
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: see the forty nine Ers coming out on top of

2271
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: the Packers this Sunday, right, I do. I think it'll

2272
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: be something. I'm feeling something about thirty to twenty three,

2273
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: something in that range. I don't think it's gonna be

2274
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: super high scorning because both these defenses are good. But

2275
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: I do think the forty nine Ers are going to

2276
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: be able to move up and down the field but

2277
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: settle for field goals. And yeah, I did. The port

2278
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Aders just seemed like the more talented team from top

2279
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: to bottom. And in the AFC, you kind of are

2280
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: going for an upset. You think there's an upset working here,

2281
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: right I do. I've been kind of riding the Titans

2282
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: that picked them to beat the Patriots that picked him

2283
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 1: to beat the raven and now it just feels like

2284
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 1: you get that team of destiny feeling. We saw it

2285
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five with the Steelers they beat

2286
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 1: the Colts where Jerome Bettis fumbled at the goal line.

2287
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: The Colts linebacker was gonna return a touchdown and win

2288
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 1: it in the final minutes, and Ben Roethlisberger made a

2289
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: shoe string tackle. You know, they beat the Bengals when

2290
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer injured his knee on the first play of

2291
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: the game. It was just like these weird things kept

2292
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: going in their way and then eventually they end up

2293
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. We saw it with the Packers

2294
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. They were the sixth seed and they

2295
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: go in, they beat the top seed and no one

2296
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: expects him to and all of a sudden, you know,

2297
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: those six seeds, they just keep getting more confidence, more

2298
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: confidence that they can play with anyone. And if you're

2299
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the Titans, look, you're the last three weeks, you beat

2300
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 1: the a FC South champs. In week seventeen, you beat

2301
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: the AFC champs in the wildcard round, you beat the

2302
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 1: AFC North Champs in the divisional round, and there's no

2303
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: reason in your head that you can't go out and

2304
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: beat the a FFC West Champs because you've already nearly

2305
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: poured off the sweep. So I just think the Titans

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Speaker 1: are playing with a lot of confidence. They're better than

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Speaker 1: I think people are getting credit for. Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: the Titans are going to pull off the upset in

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01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: an extremely close, probably three point games. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I want to ask you about it that you

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01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: get into these big championship games and both teams have

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: some star players. One of the guys who is who's

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 1: really rises to the top wherever he's been has been

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, and he's gonna be and he's everybody thought, wow,

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Speaker 1: an Achilles attendant, Terry, he's gonna be done. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to recover. Not only is he recovered,

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Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level and we'll probably be

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01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 1: matched up against DeVante Adams. Richard Sherman and his presence

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Speaker 1: in that secondary change things for Aaron Rodgers. And do

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Speaker 1: you think Richard Sherman can hold up against Davanta Adams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do absolutely think he's gonna be able to hold

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Speaker 1: up against Davantay Adams. And Richard Sherman has had a

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Speaker 1: fantastic year. Obviously. I know everyone's kind of ragging on

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Speaker 1: him when he negotiated his own contracts with all those

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Speaker 1: crazy incentives because he was coming off the Achilles injury

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Speaker 1: and history had kind of shown that defensive backs don't

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Speaker 1: really come off Achilles injuries and have great seasons. And

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Speaker 1: now we have Richard Sherman. You know, he met all

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: those criterias in his contract. Now he's being paid millions

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01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: of dollars and he's had a fantastic year. So I

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01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: do think he can at least slow down Davanta Adams,

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01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe not stop him. I don't think Davanta Adams is

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01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 1: going to have eight catches for one hundred and sixty

2334
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: yards like he did against the Seahawks, but I do

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01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 1: think Sherman could probably hold him, you know, under seventy

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01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: five yards, which would be big for the forty nine ers.

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01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: But one thing I will say is that this might

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01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: actually be okay for the Packers if this that happened

2339
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 1: maybe last season. It's an issue. But Green Bay did

2340
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,919
Speaker 1: have to play an entire month without the Vontay Adams.

2341
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he played a single game in October.

2342
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers was able to build some chemistry with

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01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: the other receivers on his team, which I don't think

2344
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: he really had last year, and that was an issue

2345
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 1: with why that offense was struggling so often during Mike

2346
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: McCarty's final year. So If Richard Sherman does shut down

2347
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: the Vontay Adams, that's not great for the Packers offense.

2348
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: But I do think Aaron Rodgers is comfortable enough with

2349
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: his other receivers that they'll be okay. Hey, John, Thanks

2350
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: thanks John. Yeah, thanks for having me. Guys. John Breach,

2351
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: CBS NFL writer. It's co hosted the Pick six podcast.

2352
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: Joining a short notice. Guy comes on, does a great job.

2353
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: Happy to have him. Got a breakcare When we return,

2354
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk with the Athletic dot Com. Mike Sando is

2355
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: going to join us when we return. One Bills five

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01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from the Senecast duty on Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. I'm going back. One goes Live.

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01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: John Murphy was CE tasker. We're coming in from the

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01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio on Chard Park. We're going until three this afternoon.

2360
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: And joining us on the line now to talk more

2361
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: about this weekend's playoff games, the playoffs in general, and

2362
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: about the Hall of Fame is senior writer Anti Athletic

2363
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Mike Sando. He's a Pro Football Hall of Fame selector,

2364
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: a officer of the Pro Football Writers Association. Hello on

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01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: Mike Thames, coming on with us. Hey, how's it going.

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01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: It's going well. Thanks for being with us here today.

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01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and the announcement the other day

2369
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: of the centennial class fifteen new members of the Hall

2370
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 1: of Fame. You are an elector, a selector, the normal

2371
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 1: way of electing people to the Hall of Fame. Are

2372
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: you okay with this? Fifteen new guys just coming in

2373
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: in a totally different way? I'm glad. Yes. The Hall

2374
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: did not ask me for the record, nor should they.

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,560
Speaker 1: They've got their own way of doing things, and I

2376
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: guess I'm okay with it. You know, I've gone back

2377
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 1: and forth in my mind and thought, you know, it

2378
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: sort of does provide a door that doesn't exist at

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01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 1: any other time. And so you know, if you really

2380
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: want to analyze that and make a case that it

2381
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: waters it down in some way, you can. But I

2382
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: think ten years from now, no one's gonna, oh, how

2383
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: did you get in? Again? You know what I mean?

2384
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 1: You're just in. So good for them, And you know,

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01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: the favorite part for me of doing this job is

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01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: seeing the guys when they get in. It's so hard

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01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 1: to get in. Yeah, And you don't have to, you know,

2388
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: take my word. I mean, just look what Steve's gone through.

2389
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, the guys who sit there, I feel for them. Yeah,

2390
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: it's really hard. But then when they get in, it's

2391
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: like the greatest thing ever. No one asked how you

2392
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: got in with con Tenniel or was it whatever you

2393
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: got in, you're in. I guess I just feel like it's,

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01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: like you said, watered it down cheap into a little bit,

2395
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: And it should be really hard to get in the

2396
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, shouldn't it. You're right, I'm sitting next

2397
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: to you, a guy who's found that to be the case.

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to get in the Hall of Fame.

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01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there's fifteen new names are just

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01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 1: kind of like the walking through the door, you know,

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01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: the back door as it were. Yeah, but a lot

2402
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 1: of them were you know, like you know, Duke Slater

2403
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: played in the twenties. Well, I think that's pretty cool,

2404
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: because if you really do your diligence, there are going

2405
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: to be people who should have gotten in and didn't,

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01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe the one hundred and fiftieth one,

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01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: when we're all long gone here they sit around and say, dang,

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: it's Steve Tasker to be in there, you know, and

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01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: then you're in, so it'll suck unless you live to

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01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: be two the good party. That's how it will be rectified. Well, Mike,

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01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: the good part is if you don't get in, they

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01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: don't hit you with sticks or anything. You just don't

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01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: get in, so it's not like they torture you in

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01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. So it's yeah. Still, but

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01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: and I'm with you that the guys that get in,

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01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: and it's hard not to say, yeah, I know that,

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01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: yet that guy gets in, so I get It's. Yeah,

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01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard, and it should be. And I'm

2419
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine with what they the way they do

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01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: it and and all of that. So it's just kind

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01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: of random. You know. People always say why and this

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01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: guy get in, and I'm like, you know, when we

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: have fifteen people on that finalist list, there are three

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01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: thousand unique combinations of five that can come out of it.

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01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: Don't ask me to explain it. I mean we're all

2426
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: voting and then it comes out and you're like, oh,

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01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's how it is. They're all good, they're

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01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: all worthy. We could you could randomly pick five and

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01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: unless you left out that Jerry Rice to the year

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01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: he was up, you know it's gonna be a pretty

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01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: good class, right Mike Sander, our guest senior writer at

2432
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: The Athletic. Let's talk about a future Hall of Famer

2433
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You've done a kind of a pole of

2434
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: NFL executives about Brady's future, one of whom says it

2435
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: should be a non story. How does he figure it's

2436
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: a non story where maybe the greatest quarterback of all

2437
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: time is a potential free agent. Now, well, he was

2438
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: just basically saying that he doesn't think he's going anywhere.

2439
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: And you know what, I think most of the people,

2440
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: So that piece I did ran right after the they lost,

2441
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: and at that time, people really thought that Josh McDaniels

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01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: was going to leave, and so I think a lot

2443
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: of what people were saying about Brady going sort of

2444
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: had the feeling that, you know, he was the last

2445
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: man standing on the island. Right now, you look and

2446
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 1: you go if Josh McDaniels is staying, then you start

2447
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: asking yourself, Okay, where does Brady go? You know, is

2448
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: he just gonna go somewhere to go? Are they gonna

2449
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: not want him back, you know, now you start, I

2450
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: think it shifts some more like more likely stage, wouldn't

2451
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I kind of do. I agree with you.

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01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: I think certainly Robert Kraft would love to have him

2453
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: stay there. If he's gonna play, he wants to play,

2454
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: He wants him to play. Robert Kraft does wants Tom

2455
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Brady to play as a Patriot. And I get it.

2456
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: And there is some sentiment out there. And I know

2457
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 1: the executives. You've talked to some of them saying listen,

2458
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: all of them want to win and prove that they're

2459
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: good without the help that the other one gives them. I,

2460
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: for one, in thinking that Bill Belichick is going to

2461
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: be pretty successful with or without Tom Brady, particularly a

2462
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: forty three year old Tom Brady. Not everybody thinks that way.

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01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much tom Brady would bring

2464
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: to the table if how different would he be than

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01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers if he went to San Diego or La. Well,

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01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? Well? I do think

2467
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: there's a you know, a certain setup that helps him

2468
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: succeed at this point, and for Philip Rivers when they

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01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 1: can protect Philip Rivers you don't want to play Chargers.

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean I believe that. I think his line fell

2471
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: apart and he can't move much better than I can,

2472
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he really is not able to

2473
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: move to an unusual degree for a quarterback, so when

2474
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: it's not right around him, he doesn't look good. And

2475
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: then he also unlike like an Aaron Rodgers, he doesn't

2476
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: care about interceptions or stats. He's going to throw their

2477
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: way in or out of the game. So that's what

2478
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 1: happens to him. And I think with Brady he moves

2479
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: better than Rivers, but if he went to the Chargers,

2480
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 1: he might have the same problems Rivers has because the

2481
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: protection wouldn't be right. So I think the fit where

2482
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: he goes is would be really really important. And I

2483
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: do think that in New England they can get a

2484
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 1: receiver too, they can get their line stabilized, they can

2485
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 1: get you know, their Devlin fullback back to give them

2486
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: some of those weird looks how to look heavier personnel,

2487
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: and they can have a good season. And by the way,

2488
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: they were twelve and four this year, which is pretty

2489
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: darn good sign up for that. You know, Yeah, I

2490
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: think everybody would think that's what gets forgotten. For everything

2491
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: that's wrong in New England, they still won twelve games. Yeah,

2492
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: and he makes he makes great throws. I think that

2493
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 1: throughout the last ten years, really since those seven when

2494
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: he's had a Randy Moss or a Gronkowski, his numbers

2495
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: look like an all pro numbers. And then when you

2496
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: don't have that, you see how hard it is. And

2497
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 1: that's probably a reality for a lot of quarter facts.

2498
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: People are like Aaron Rodgers declined, well, you put Aaron

2499
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers ten best throws are as good as they ever were.

2500
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: But he's started Jimmy Graham, who you know, probably shouldn't

2501
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: be your number one tight end right now for sixteen games,

2502
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, that makes a difference. Hey, Mike, I

2503
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: want to ask two responses you got to your executive's

2504
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: poll about Tom Brady. I find interesting. So one of

2505
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: them told you Brady now evaluate New England and another

2506
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: one said that it's it's about the money sort of.

2507
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of related in some respect. Right,

2508
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 1: Brady has a chance now to take a look around

2509
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: at least, doesn't he. Yeah, he does. It's funny. I

2510
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: was talking to a different guy last night. He's like,

2511
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: money is not an issue here, and I don't know,

2512
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think it always is to some degree, right,

2513
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 1: And so, um, we've sort of sense that, um, you

2514
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: know that he wants a little love, right have we

2515
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: have we sensed that that Belichick's sort of like the

2516
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: father who won't fail love you. And I know and

2517
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: you know you just got You're right, he doesn't need

2518
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: the money. But you know, he took a little bit

2519
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: of a bath on his last deal on the incentives

2520
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 1: when they reworked him, and he's always sort of taken

2521
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: a lesser guilt than he could have. So I think

2522
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 1: there is a number that feels like an insult for him, right.

2523
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve, you can relate to that as a player,

2524
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 1: even if you have money. That means something where you

2525
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 1: are in the pecking order. I think it means something

2526
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: to Brady. Yeah, it's about It's about respect and about

2527
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: what you think, what you're you've done for them in

2528
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: the past, and what they think you're worth and the value.

2529
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 1: It's it's about respect, a lot of it, and it does.

2530
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 1: It is a statement about the affection they have for

2531
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 1: you and the contributions you've made at this point of

2532
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 1: your careers and I get it. It's always something about it. Yeah,

2533
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: how much has that atmosphere that the grind it out

2534
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 1: kind of grist mill attitude in New England worn on

2535
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? I mean, is he kind of does he

2536
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: want a breath of fresh aired or is winning still

2537
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, too much fun? You know. I think that

2538
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: there is an aspect to that that probably becomes cumulative

2539
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the grind, and especially after a

2540
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 1: tough loss. But I think when you step back in

2541
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 1: the off season, you know, you realize that it's a

2542
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 1: pretty good place to be, right, especially when against the

2543
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 1: uncertainty of somewhere else. And so I do think some

2544
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 1: of those things have percolated the surface. You know, we've

2545
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: heard things about his personal trainer and Belichick muscle and

2546
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: him around a little bit, and we know it's a

2547
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: grind there. If you talk to people who've worked in

2548
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 1: the Bill thing, you know, in different capacities, they'll they'll

2549
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: tell you that. But I think Brady realizes that it's

2550
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 1: been good for everybody too, you know, as much as

2551
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: it is a grind. So I don't think that that's

2552
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's just going to go running out

2553
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 1: of there. Saying save me and go to the any

2554
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: other place because it's such a grind. But it's probably

2555
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: a factor in his mind. I like that one of

2556
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: the execution said that said, Hey, at this point, it

2557
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: could be how do you want? Do you want to

2558
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 1: have a little bit more fun? And the other thing

2559
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 1: is he's transitioning into this business with this TV twelve stuff.

2560
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 1: Is that the reason he's playing is that is that

2561
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 1: a reason, a big reason why he's playing to sort

2562
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 1: of launch this business that's going to tell everybody that

2563
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: they can they too, can remain productive in your late forties,

2564
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 1: which I'm telling you you can't. I can't. I'm forty nine.

2565
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm forty nine. I couldn't even play three on three

2566
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't work. The MS twelve program is

2567
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: not going so well. We have so many questions about

2568
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the reason is we're in Buffalo, Mike,

2569
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: and many people here would like to like to believe

2570
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: there's a changing to the guard coming in the AFC East.

2571
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 1: Do you see that as well? Yeah, I think there's

2572
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, we just don't know when. The

2573
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 1: beautiful thing for Buffalo is that they've done well enough

2574
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 1: in the first three years under this regime that I

2575
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 1: think everybody realized this is pretty good. That there's not

2576
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: like pressure, it's a good feeling. There's it's not like, shoot,

2577
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: they've gone two years of six and ten and that's

2578
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 1: just the way it works in the NFL. Now you

2579
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: have to show progress or they're going to make a change. Right.

2580
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: I think we feel like they're not firing Brandon Bean

2581
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott in the next two years, right, Right, Sure,

2582
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 1: we feel that, we feel like there's a good plan.

2583
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 1: So that's what you need, is time you have because

2584
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: it's coming. Tom Brady's not playing forever, Belichick's not coaching forever.

2585
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna it's not forever. So it's just lasted

2586
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 1: longer than anyone else in the AFC. East Hope Mike

2587
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 1: sander Our guests the senior writer at the Athletic and

2588
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 1: got a few minutes left with Mike Mike. This weekend's

2589
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 1: playoff games, the championship games. You know, the chalk picks

2590
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 1: are the forty nine in the chiefs. Is that the

2591
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 1: way you see it going Sunday as well? No, I

2592
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: think that people ask how do you stop Derrick Henry

2593
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 1: and I think it's put points on the board right

2594
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 1: and you make him not have be able to run

2595
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 1: so much. So I think Kansas City can do that.

2596
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: They showed last week even when it goes off the rails,

2597
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 1: they're going to keep firing. And so I think in

2598
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 1: the end, unless there's some weird stuff that happened, they

2599
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: probably win that. Now San Francisco I do think should win,

2600
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 1: but they're a little bit of a less established team

2601
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: for me, and they've been a little up and down

2602
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: at times. And you like what you've seen from Garoppolo.

2603
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean he want to shoot out against breeze, but

2604
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: sometimes he does turn it over. So I do think

2605
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 1: there's an opening for Green Bay. And I think Rogers

2606
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: is a little under the radar. People are talking about

2607
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: is he is good and on any given play or game,

2608
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, he certainly is. And I think that this

2609
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 1: is a test of the floor. You know, the flour

2610
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: I thought got the short end of that in the

2611
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 1: last matchup. They really got worked. Does he have an answer?

2612
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 1: They can they scheme some stuff. I think they're going

2613
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: to need to to win that game. Can you give

2614
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: us some perspective about Derrick Henry. What he's done in

2615
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 1: the last two obviously the playoff games, but also at

2616
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 1: the end of the regular season he's emerged as he's

2617
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: having an epic stretch of games, an unprecedented stretch of games. Now,

2618
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 1: certainly it comes down with opportunity and getting the ball

2619
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: thirty times a game, But can you give us some

2620
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: historical perspective about what it means for a running back

2621
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry to put together the month and a

2622
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,880
Speaker 1: half or two months that he's done. Absolutely well, it's

2623
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 1: to me it's heightened by the context that it's achieved in.

2624
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 1: And I'll make a comparison Marshawn Lanch when he went

2625
02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: to Seattle, right. I mean, you have a certain type

2626
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: of team and a certain way you want to be,

2627
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 1: and that back embodies it. And that's different than just

2628
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers on a stat sheet and saying

2629
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 1: he's the first guy to have on an eighty yards

2630
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: and three straight games or whatever all this stuff. It

2631
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: is who they are and you watch him and you

2632
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,919
Speaker 1: watch people don't want to tackle that, and it reminds

2633
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: me of Lynch. Now, yeah, also had a better you know,

2634
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 1: an even better defense, and I think Russell Wilson's obviously

2635
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: better than Tannahill, but I think it's in the context

2636
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: of the components of their team and how they want

2637
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 1: to play. I think the values heightened and it produces

2638
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 1: an interesting question for them because you know, what do

2639
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 1: you pay a running back? Do you really want to

2640
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 1: pay for what? He's not going to sustain this forever, right,

2641
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a magical run they're on, and

2642
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 1: maybe it continues two more games, but you have long

2643
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: term things to think about too. I think it's what

2644
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: makes it very interesting for their team, not only him,

2645
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: but Tannehill. Last thing I have for you, Mike, it's

2646
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: it's a question about how the Titans got to where

2647
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 1: they're at, including beating the Baltimore Ravens. Did they show

2648
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 1: everybody the formula for handling Lamar Jackson? Do you think

2649
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 1: that's the way That's the kind of defense Lamar Jackson

2650
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 1: faces next year every game? Well, the Buffalo defense to

2651
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 1: me was great against him. You know, I think that

2652
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:56,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Baltimore really moved the ball and had a

2653
02:05:56,440 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 1: lot of chances in their territory. So I don't know

2654
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:02,360
Speaker 1: about that. I think it's just good defense and having

2655
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, having the ability to stop their slow down

2656
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: their run game, which includes him but includes other components

2657
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: as well. So I think Lamar Jackson is a really

2658
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 1: good young player who will continue to improve. He works

2659
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: at it. I think he's going to break through in

2660
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't. I just don't think he's I

2661
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 1: think he works at it too hard to just be solved.

2662
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:27,280
Speaker 1: But yes, I think that between Buffalo and a couple

2663
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 1: of the other good defenses, if you have a good

2664
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 1: defense game that happened throughout the year, San Francisco did

2665
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 1: it too. What do you think that? How do you

2666
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 1: see Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense evolving from what

2667
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 1: it was this year to to get better? I mean,

2668
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 1: will they have to change anything philosophically? Certainly, Lamar Jackson,

2669
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 1: I've I've called him a unicorn on this program a bunch.

2670
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:53,560
Speaker 1: He's he's an elite athlete playing a really tough position

2671
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 1: and he can do both. He can throw it and

2672
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 1: he can obviously run it. How does it evolve from

2673
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 1: that point? Yeah? I think, you know, continue to improve

2674
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,200
Speaker 1: as a passer even when the burning game's not there.

2675
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've shown you know when you

2676
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 1: have when they're defending both, they're defending all three conventional

2677
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 1: run game, his run game, and pass game. That then

2678
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 1: they're going to have five hundred yard games. But I

2679
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 1: do think that you will have outings where that doesn't

2680
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: all work. You have to be able to pass, and

2681
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 1: I think that's an area where he made a huge

2682
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: jump from year one to year two. So just seeing

2683
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 1: the look in his eye, I think he continues to

2684
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 1: work on that. And there's a lot of people who

2685
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: will say, and you hear this with Josh Allen too, Hey,

2686
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 1: you're never going to improve accuracy that much. Well, maybe

2687
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: these guys are a couple of good sort of you know,

2688
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 1: indicators for that, because I think they're both going to

2689
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 1: really work at it, they really care, you know, and

2690
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 1: they have to varying degrees of respect of their teammates

2691
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:49,400
Speaker 1: and full buy in from the coaches. Let's see. All right, Hey, Mike,

2692
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 1: thanks for this. We appreciate it. Thank you very much, great,

2693
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks Mike. Mike Sandoe, senior writer at the

2694
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 1: Athletic Pro Football Hall of Fame Selector and officer or

2695
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,000
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Right Association. A lot of interesting thought.

2696
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 1: Do you have you noticed the trend Stephen, We're down

2697
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 1: about the Bills still, almost two weeks after their loss.

2698
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: Every national writer we've talked to all this week is

2699
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: talking about how good the Bills were. I mean, everybody

2700
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: except those of us living here in Buffalo have a

2701
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 1: have a nice taste in your mouth about the Buffalo

2702
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 1: Bill season. If you live here, it's not so much

2703
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: it's because of the last game. But yeah, you're right,

2704
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 1: their defense was for real. And I think I said

2705
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 1: it a ton and this was kind of the way

2706
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:32,160
Speaker 1: I characterized the Bills in the twenty nineteen season. They

2707
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 1: were just really hard to beat. They didn't do anything

2708
02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 1: spectacular or the defense was just stoneball. They didn't get

2709
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 1: a ton of turnovers, they didn't get a ton of sacks,

2710
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: although they were they got much better at certain stretches

2711
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 1: of the team, finishing the top ten in sacks, but

2712
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: they and they got back onto the positive side defensively

2713
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,720
Speaker 1: in the turnovers. But you know, they were just really

2714
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 1: really difficult to beat. And it wasn't like you walked

2715
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: in there saying, Wow, we gotta you know, we gotta

2716
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 1: watch their running game, we gotta watch their passing game.

2717
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: This guy. It wasn't anything like that. It was just like, well,

2718
02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 1: you had to beat all fifty three guys you know,

2719
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 1: on the on the team, and it was a really

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Speaker 1: it really was a team. I think the Bills this

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Speaker 1: season was a team that you had to beat the Bills.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to beat Derrick Henry, the Titans. You

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Speaker 1: didn't have to beat Pat Mahomes. You have to beat

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. It was like he had to beat all

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Speaker 1: those guys and it was hard to do. Let me

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Speaker 1: approach it this one. We're almost out of time here.

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Speaker 1: If I woke you up in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: night tonight, you're dead asleep. I shake you away. Can

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Speaker 1: I say, Steve, who's a better team, Tennessee Titans or

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What's your answer? Well, it's hard to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Buffalo Bills. I really think they had a

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Speaker 1: better year and are a better team than Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: But there's Tennessee. They've they've you know, found something to

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Speaker 1: grab out to Derrick Henry in particular, and getting good

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Speaker 1: defensive play over the last couple of weeks. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills are a better team than they have If

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Speaker 1: they played right now scored me three to two. Nobody

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Speaker 1: watched that game. Ninety minutes. We got a break. We're

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Speaker 1: coming back. One Bill Slide presented by Klata Health from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: So what have we learned from today's show? Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We had Cynthia Freeland down the show from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network today. She is a analyst who does

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Speaker 1: a lot of analytics, and we asked her if the

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Speaker 1: Bills would have been a better matchup against the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs on Sunday in the AFC Championship game. Here's

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Speaker 1: what she said, the Bills, if by better matchup you

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Speaker 1: mean we would have seen a closer game. Absolutely. The

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Speaker 1: thing that about the Bills, the defense and the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: I went to BC Matt Mulano. I've been watching him

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Speaker 1: since Boston College. Like really great, Like the ability for

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Speaker 1: the middle of that defense to just shut everyone down

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Speaker 1: up you already have to you know about your Davious White,

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Speaker 1: you know about the pass rushers up front, but the

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Speaker 1: middle of that detense is super impressive, very underrated, not

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Speaker 1: talked about enough. I don't think Sintia Freeland. I think

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Speaker 1: she answered the question there. She said the Bills will

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Speaker 1: be a better matchup. John Breach joined us the Last

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Speaker 1: Hour John Breach as predicted in print. John Breach works

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Speaker 1: for NFL Network as well. John Breach says the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans are gonna beat the Kansas City Chiefs this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he's sat on our show. Their offense is

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Speaker 1: the most predictable ever. But as far as being the

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Speaker 1: most unpredictable team in the playoffs, that you know, in

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Speaker 1: the wild card round, everybody thought the Patriots were gonna win,

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Speaker 1: and then boom, the Titans came and win. Last week,

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Speaker 1: everyone thought the Ravens, we're gonna win. Boom, the unpredictable

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Speaker 1: happened and the Titans win. And now we're dealing with

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Speaker 1: those themes storylines this week where everyone thinks the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are gonna win, and now, you know, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if anybody should feel comfortable picking against the most unpredictable

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Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. Well I do, don't. You I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't anybody can win these conference championship games. You're

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Speaker 1: you got a lot of talent, and you're playing well,

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Speaker 1: you're clicking on a lot of cylinder, you're hitting a

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Speaker 1: lot of boxes, both motivationally and your preparation and all that.

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Speaker 1: And you've got and you found some things that are

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Speaker 1: working against really good teams, so you can win. But

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Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee can win

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Speaker 1: this game. But you gotta be. You gotta roll into

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Speaker 1: Kansas City knowing you got to you gotta score some points.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that Tennessee can do enough to

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Speaker 1: score score that many points. Agree, And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you can keep the Chiefs off the board. That's

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Speaker 1: I just it's one of those games. The favorite's got

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Speaker 1: to be the Chiefs and I and I'd say seven

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Yeah, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: These teams are good, man, they're playing good. They hit it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: our Twitter pull today we kind of looked ahead as

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Speaker 1: far as the Buffalo Bills are concerned and asked you

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Speaker 1: what type of receiver the Bills might be interested in

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Speaker 1: in the draft or free agency? But I guess we're

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Speaker 1: focused mostly on the draft. What type of receiver do

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Speaker 1: you think the Bills need this offseason. Sixty three percent

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Speaker 1: of you said big and physical, like an Eric Molds,

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Speaker 1: thirty two percent of you said an all round receiver

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Speaker 1: like Andre Reid, two point eight three percent of you

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Speaker 1: said a speedy guy like Jerry Butler, one point two

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Speaker 1: percent said somebody else. I like that response. I think uh,

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Speaker 1: I think began physical like Eric Molds is the right

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Speaker 1: answer there, But there's no one right answer. You can

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Speaker 1: like them all, and who could How could you say

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want a Hall of Famer. There's

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Speaker 1: Andrea It's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, there, there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt that there. We're gonna have some new faces on

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Speaker 1: the roster, probably wide receiver rooms, probably gonna have some

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Speaker 1: new faces in it. It'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: this roster takes shape. But yep, it's a long way off.

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Speaker 1: A lot of time to talk about. Way off tomorrow

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Speaker 1: show great co sal joins us from NFL Film Senior

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Speaker 1: producer in NFL Films, Tyler Dunn, local product from bleacher

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Speaker 1: report dot com. We'll talk with him mostly about the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and Matty Glavis on our show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: as well production assistants George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas Hollander,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j J. Turito, Kevin Cartis, James Robell, Our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris will catch you tomorrow at twelve noon

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. And this is Buffalo

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