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Tonight's Mega 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Millions jack bodies of one hundred and seventy five million 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: play out. Please play responsibly. It must be eighteen years 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: older to purchase player flid. Welcome everybody to the show. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: How many people did Devil Mark mention that died from 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: rock bands in that newscast? The whole newscast is about 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: people that died. Well, you know, we know about radioda, 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: but who else die? Somebody? Co founder of Depeche Mode. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: I heard that one and drummer and yes, oh oh no, 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: no no, really belt it out. Well, I don't sing 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: as well as Ken. You guys want to do due, 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: let's do it Ken. No Depeche Mode. That was you 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: spin me round and round? Right? No, that's Rat. Oh right, 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Depeche Mode. They had a round and round song though, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you spin me round? Who when a bandit? One of 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: those bands? I remember Rat did round and round, But 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: there's one spin me like a record? Get alive? Yes, 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: not depeche Depeche Mode had several hits. What were they? Anyway? 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: I love depeche more looking it up, I'm looking up 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: right now. I only knew who Ralelyoed was. That would 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: make sense for twenties. We were disc jockeys in that area. 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: And this is what happens if you get older, these 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: rock people start to pass away and your personal Jesus 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: no no, no no, no no, but you have an whole 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: whole albums Dodd. That's right, dad, I remember now right, 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: trying to see here. People are people? Yeah, people are people, 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: so why should it be that's right? Right? Yeah? You 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and I should get along so awkwardly very good, right, man, 40 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: that was a hit for them. Well, all right, there 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: you go a lot of those. That was a fun newscast, 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, full of death. I just got 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: done watching most of your Call It Yours the Los 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Angeles special from Fox eleven. Oh yeah, I watched about 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: till there's about twenty minutes left, and I had to 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: go because it show was too close to showtime. I 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: recorded because I wanted to flip. Do I need they'd 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: be commercials? I wanted to flip. They were like all 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: political ads too. I can't seem Karen Bass's head go by, 50 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and a great single commercial break was a Karen Bass commercial, 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: actually an anti Karen Bass commercial. Kuroso is unloading the 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons on her. Yeah, he wants he wants to 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: do written now, even before November, even though it seems 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: to be it's going to be those two. So is 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: the Police Protective League too, some of those they paid for. 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh they don't want her. No, no, they'll be back 57 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: on the defund question. You know, it's not hot on 58 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: people's mind with what's going on. If you sat through 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: the commercials by the end of the show, there's no 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: way you're voting for Karen Bass for anything. You can see, 61 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: we're getting close to June seventh, so that's why we're 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna get inundated. In fact, we're gonna have Sheriff Alex 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Fienueva on next hour, and he's on your ballot for 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: sheriff if you were in La County voter. He's got 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: eight opponents, and I realized why they did that, and 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying they there's a concerted effort to get him 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: out by the people that actually helped get him in 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: and by putting eight opponent's on there there hopeing he 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: does not get fifty percent plus one vote and win outright, 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: and hopefully with eight opponents, he won't be able to 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: reach fifty percent, is the thought, right, and then all 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: the anti via a wave of voters coalesce around the 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: second place finisher. That's the theory, which is what happened 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: to Jackie Lacy. She'd beat Gascone by a decent margin 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: but didn't get to fifty's right, and in November she lost, 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and then Gascone and some woman who is even whackier 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: if you can believe it, so the public defender. Yeah, 78 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: and she was really I mean, if Gascone was on Mars. 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: She was on Pluto, and but all her voters joined 80 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Gascone and that was enough to defeat Jackie Lacy easily. Yeah, 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: a lot of crazy people out there, and a lot 82 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: of them are voters. We have the voter guide for 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: you too at KFI AM sixty dot com, the John 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: and Kent page. We'll be going to Texas. We hope 85 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: yesterday the didn't work, but we were told again this 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: reporter will be there for us at two twenty. But 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: before we do that, the overwhelming headline today dealing with 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the mass shooting in Uvaldi, Texas, has really changed significantly. 89 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: As John and I like to say, wait two or 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: three days, all right, today it's not all about it 91 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: was posting to Facebook and we didn't notice this about 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: him and nobody reported him, and no, it is shades 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: of Parkland, Florida and the school shooting that took place 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day a few years back by Nicholas Cruz. 95 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: What happened? Why did it take so long to get 96 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: into the building and neutralize the shooter to get into 97 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: the room. We know he ran in and barricaded himself 98 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: in a classroom. We learned today he just got through 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: an unlocked door. And the other thing, he admitted he 100 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: was not encountered, at least not with bullets by a 101 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: security guard who works at the school. All right, those 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: are two new things. But reporters were pestering officials about 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: why it took an hour, an hour after he entered 104 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: the school and went to the classroom for them to 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: get in there and engage him is the word. Yeah, 106 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: it turned out they killed him, but at least engage 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: him an hour. That is kind of hard to believe. 108 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: How is it too, then, that every child that was 109 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: in that classroom did not die, but some of them lived. 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I get they hid, I know, but I don't know 111 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: the layout of the classroom, but there's just some things 112 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't. Well, he really understand he went behind a barricade, 113 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: and so maybe he ended the shooting in order to 114 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: try to save himself. Well, that's what they said happened. 115 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: His shooting became much more sporadic and at time ceased. 116 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: So they thought, all right, he's not killing anybody right now, 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: let's figure out how to get in there safely. But 118 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: they were looking for a key. You've heard that parents 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: and other bystanders outside were screaming at them. If you 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: don't go in there, I will Did you hear that part? 121 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: Some of them were making a plan. Yeah, I read 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: to bypass the police and get in there themselves to 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: rescue the kids. Now that shouldn't happen. Do they think 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: there was shooting going on during that hour or well, 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: they could hear kind of and they thought the shooting stopped. 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: But there's a report that there was sporadic gunfire in 127 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: that hour. But nobody was saving the wounded kids and 128 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of those have been rescued. Somebody could have lived. 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they said about Florida. What was the 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: delay about? Remember in Florida? Was that chicken uh school 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: officer who just kind of stood there. It's hard to 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: say because the story has changed so much now in 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the last two days. You don't know what else, what 134 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: other information is wrong or the perceptions are wrong. So 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: but it is. It is like Parkland. It is strange 136 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: that they were out there for so long and not 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: not barging in there and just blasting away at them. 138 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: The person that was answering most of the questions is 139 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: the Texas Department of Public Safety, regional director Victor Escalon. 140 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: We'll start with cut one. This is about the doors 141 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: being unlocked. How are you ever we're gonna get in 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: be locked the school day? So so right now, you know, 143 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: during the investigation, it appears it was unlocked. So we're 144 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna look at that and try to coaberate that at 145 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: best as we can. You know why I do not 146 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: str Please what at a time, and we'll address us 147 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: many questions that we can. So let me finish this 148 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: question one at a time. Announce your name and announce 149 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: your network. Okay, if you're respectful, be My name is 150 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Josh morning. How you know why it was unlocked? So Josh, 151 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for the question. So right now 152 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: we have it appears it was unlocked. Like I said, 153 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: it goes back to the investigation. It takes time. Uh, 154 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: we will find out as much as we can why 155 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: it was unlocked or maybe it was locked, but right 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: now it appears it was unlocked. You know, it's kind 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: of a silly question. Why was it unlocked? You have 158 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: seven hundred kids going in and out, not to mention 159 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: dozens of teachers and administrators. You know, you probably have 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: eight hundred people going in and out. No, no doors 161 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: going to remain locked. That's impossible unless you have an 162 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: alarm that goes off every time it is unlocked for 163 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: thirty seconds or more. I think the idea is, once 164 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: school starts, security is supposed to go around and make 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: sure that the doors are locked. Do they have security 166 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: so some trust passer can't just can bypass the front office? Right? 167 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I know, yes, there was a security guard, because that's 168 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: question number two. You know, in the real world, though, 169 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: people aren't, aren't that. No, they become complacent or they decide, 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: like you just said, maybe for practical reasons, we might 171 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: be better off to have, you know, a few unlocked 172 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: doors in case somebody is late or somebody needs to 173 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I mean, you know, we grew 174 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: up at a time where no school doors were locked. 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: You could walk in and out of all the schools 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: all the time. There was no such thing as locked doors, 177 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the locked doors. No, there was a few fire doors 178 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: that said the alarm will go off if you go 179 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: out this door. But a lot of the doors I 180 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: think we're unlocked, right, all right? You know what play more? 181 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, this is one more thing on this and 182 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: this is this is where you know, the next day 183 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: everybody goes, why don't why didn't they do this? Why 184 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: did they do that? UM? And Charles C. W. Cook 185 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: in the National Review, and he put out all the 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: disclaimers that this is not to minimize the tragedy and 187 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: horror the situation, but it does explain why the door 188 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: is unlocked. So the Associated Press has counted one hundred 189 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: and sixty nine school deaths in the last twenty three years, 190 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: which which is a lot, but he said, there's fifty 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: four million American children attending school and four million new 192 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: kids enter those schools each year. So you know, the 193 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: shootings are an extremely minuscule percentage of the total number 194 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: of children who didn't happen. They did not happen ever before. No, 195 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I understand that, but we have jumped a big border, 196 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: you know. I know, and I'm not minimizing it. What 197 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying though, in real life, everybody's going to get 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: complacent because most ninety nine point nine nine percent of 199 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: schools have never had this. Yeah, and you're hearing all 200 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: these stories about how LA has got new security procedures. 201 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's on guard. You're right, a few weeks from now, 202 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: you'll be back to whatever we were doing a few 203 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's just human nature. Nobody actually perceives a 204 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: threat in their own town. They do for a few days. Yeah, 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: It's like if you've ever had like a car accident, Right, 206 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: you're driving very carefully for about a week, and then 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: you know soon you're going at eight two miles. Now 208 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: your natural style comes back into play. Yeah. So, I mean, because, 209 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we would all go insane if we actually 210 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: were hyper cautious about every possible danger. We'd all die 211 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: of strokes. I mean, you just can't do that. You 212 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: can't remain on alert and then includes the police and 213 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: the security and the administrators. It's just not possible. All Right. 214 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're expected to go to Texas 215 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: for an update from ABC News. Johnny can Caffie, all right, 216 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna go now to Texas, San Antonio, ABC News 217 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: carus fond to Dennis Folius here. The big story today 218 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: was the peppering of officials in Uvalde, Texas about the 219 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: timeline between the gunmen getting to the school and getting 220 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: inside the school and then how long before he was 221 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: eventually shot to death. So let's get that report. Dennis. Welcome, 222 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: what's the latest. Yeah, so yesterday kind of the big 223 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: question that kind of got answered was how long was 224 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: the time period between the shooting starting and police taking 225 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: out the suspect. Yesterday they were saying forty minutes to 226 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: an hour. Today we got some more details on what 227 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: was going It was at actually fourty minutes to an hour, 228 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: because it sounds like a long time, and it turns 229 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: out it was. We found out a little bit more 230 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: about what happened before the suspect got into the school. 231 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: He crashed the pickup truck, got out, saw witnesses across 232 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the street. They were calling police. He shot at them 233 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: and then walked toward the school, clined over a fence, 234 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: gone to the school property, pulled out the gun, started 235 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: spraying the building with bullets. At first, we heard that 236 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: they were camp police officers there that he confronted. Learned 237 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: today there were no police officers there. In fact, there 238 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: were no police officers involved until he was inside and 239 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: already shooting in the building. So he gets to the building. 240 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: Turns out the back door apparently was unlocked. He goes 241 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: in and after that time period was four minutes until 242 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: city police or even school police got to the scene 243 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and then he barricades himself in a classroom and it 244 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: seems like another large amount of time goes by. Do 245 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: we know how much shooting there was during that time? 246 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Supposedly the shooting stops and starts again. Yeah, so most 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: of the shooting happened early on and probably those first 248 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: few minutes and that's probably when most of unfortunately the 249 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: killing happened. And the police get there and they try 250 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: and make entry and the suspects started shooting at police 251 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: and so they had a retreat, take cover to hide 252 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: from the bullets and during that time they're calling for backup. 253 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: Well that's where the big delay came in because it 254 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: wasn't until an hour later that Border troll came in. 255 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: But once they got there, they made entry and took 256 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: out the suspect. But that this this whole issue that 257 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about today, is that hour long period. What 258 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: were they doing And we're hearing that they were trying 259 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: to negotiate with the suspect, but the suspect would just 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: keep shooting back at the officers and it wasn't until 261 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Border patrol got there to basically take out the t 262 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: So the Uvaldi police department never made a run at them. 263 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: They waited till Border patrol pretty much. Yeah, I mean 264 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: they did try going in, but but it was it 265 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: was Border patrol that that And we've heard that it 266 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: was a Border patrol agent that actually killed the suspect. 267 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: But now we know it was an hour after the 268 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: shooting gets started and once they got there with their team, 269 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: they were the ones that went in and um and 270 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: took out the suspect. But this is a small town, right, 271 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: I heard sixteen thousand, Is that right? Yeah? Sixteen thousand people. 272 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: The only thing too um and probably part of the 273 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: reason for the delay. It's an hour and a half 274 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: away from San Antonio, and really between San Antonio and Uvaldi. 275 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: It's another smaller town in between. But really you're an 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: hour and a half away from any major resources that 277 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: will be able to get there. Now, luckily border patrol 278 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: is not too far. But still the Border Patrol is 279 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: they have a pretty large territory to cover, and so 280 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: that may have played into the door getting Well, there's 281 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: one shooter and every second counts. I mean, we understand 282 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: they were bystanders and parents outside screaming for them to 283 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: get in there. I don't understand this, Yeah, and even 284 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: some of them are asking the police officers for their 285 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: bulletproof vest and their guns. If you're not gonna do it, 286 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. Is it that it was they 287 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: just didn't have the training or the experience and they 288 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: were frozen. I mean, I don't I don't know that. 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, waiting for all this backup when it probably 290 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: was one shooter. I mean, how many how many people 291 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: think they're facing And there are also all these questions about, 292 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, the back door being unlocked, no campus police 293 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: on the property, and and keep in mind in Texas 294 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: a lot of school districts have their own police departments 295 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: for this exact reason. So what went wrong? I mean, 296 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: clearly things went wrong. Part of the investigations will probably 297 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: dig into all the exact things that went wrong, and 298 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: or maybe things that went well but not well enough. Well, 299 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Dennis. I mean, I read 300 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: yesterday they actually were using an AI program to sort 301 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: of look at students social media so that they could 302 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: identify possible threats of mass shooters. What I'm asking now 303 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: is didn't they drill for this the local police department? Anybody? 304 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Didn't they do any kind of drill about how they're 305 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: going to handle a mass shooter so that when this happens, 306 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: they have a plan or is it just human nature 307 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: and chaos wins out. Yeah, and you would assume, and 308 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure whether they have been doing 309 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: training or not. Generally most districts, especially here in Texas, 310 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: especially after some of the other events that like the 311 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Santa Fe High School shooting near Houston, you know, there's 312 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: been all these renewed pushes to secure schools. So they 313 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: may have had trained, they may not have, or it 314 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: may have been just one of those days where people 315 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: were a little laxed and someone took advantage of that. 316 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: All Right, Dennis, thank you very much for that update. Absolutely, 317 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: thank you. All right. Dennis folly as ABC News for 318 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: KFI from San Antonio, Texas, where reporters peppered officials there 319 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: about the timeline of this. And you know we learned 320 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: late yesterday this sixty minute period before they finally shot 321 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: this guy dead. I just assumed when we were talking 322 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: about this Tuesday, but really yesterday that you know, everything 323 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: unfolds in minutes. You know, he gets there, he crashes 324 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: the car, he commatly runs into the school. That's hard 325 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: to stop. Like you said, the unlocked door is wrong. 326 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: But then he just bartsu into our classroom and five 327 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: minutes later they kick it out with the door. They 328 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: kill him. Most of the thought. When I heard sixty minutes, 329 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: I just I just stared. I said that, how could 330 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: that be? Well, I remember in the Parkland case, it 331 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: just seemed like the cop there, Remember they had a 332 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: copy that was a school resource officer, it was a 333 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: local police officer signed to the school, And it seemed 334 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: like this this moment overwhelmed to me. That guy froze. Yeah, yeah, 335 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: he was too scared. But they brought in all these 336 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: reinforcements at some point. You know, you get your body 337 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: armor and your shields, you get the hell in there. 338 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's true they waited for a key, 339 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if that part did I hear much 340 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: about yesterday. Look, it's small towns. Somebody find that you're 341 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: you're not. Look, you go to small towns, You're not 342 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: going to get the best doctors, right, You're not necessarily 343 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: going to get the sharpest response from your local police department. 344 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Sometimes. I think in 345 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: La those things are true too, with how much do 346 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: we complain about government here? So no, no, I know, 347 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: but just generally these guys would not have the training 348 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: and experience to do this because how much crime are 349 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: they dealing with every day? At least you know there 350 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: are some I realize that real life is overwhelming. You're 351 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: facing a mass shooter and you've never ever encountered that before. 352 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: You might have a tendency to freeze up, right, But 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: you would think somebody in the bunch would say, we 354 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: just gotta how big was the bunch because you're talking 355 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: to town A sixteen thousand, and remember there were several 356 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: events patrol people get there, so there was a lot. 357 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because those guys are in battle every day, right, 358 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: but I I think you had I think at the 359 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: timeline of when they got there, but certainly well within 360 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: the hour, because that's when they went in and the 361 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: board patrolling each is actually want to shot this guy 362 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: to death? So yeah, well, you know, I know in 363 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: my town in Jersey, the guys who ended up become 364 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the local police officers were the d students, you know, 365 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: fringe football team players, guys who just really were incapable 366 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: of doing it and doing anything else, and they were 367 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: just directing traffic. You know, when I'd go back home, 368 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: they were directing traffic and cruising around. And believe me, 369 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't SWAT Team material. It's it's tough in small 370 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: towns to find just to find the talent, right because 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: if you're really sharp and good, you're gonna go to 372 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: San Antonio and join a real police department. We got 373 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: more coming up, John and Ken Kfi and well has said. 374 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom was famously once said, whether I like it 375 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: or not, the Moistline people are coming back tomorrow. So 376 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you could be a part of it by leaving a 377 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: message with the iHeartRadio app that John mentions every ten minutes. 378 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: There is a little microphone there that you used to 379 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: talk back to the show, or you call the toll 380 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: free number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six. Sheriffia 381 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Auava will be on the show at three oh five. 382 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: They reached out to us and he lants to come on. 383 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: I know there's always a lot to talk about. We'll 384 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: seep there's something on his mind. He was also in 385 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: your show last night. Yeah, you did watch Lost Angelus 386 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: and they took City of Angels and turned it into 387 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: City of homeless. That's how they kind of fronted the 388 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: thing with the beginning on the ominous music. I got 389 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: a little frustrate at the beginning because it was just 390 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: one person after another, you know, with the usual shock. Oh, 391 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's on the streets. Oh it's just terrible. 392 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Oh it's sad. One person after another. Lot of them 393 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: were actually Fox eleven reporters. Yeah, I guess that you 394 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: were sprinkling there. The sheriff was in there. Yeah, my 395 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: favorite though I didn't put out his name, the skin 396 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: row researcher who had a prominent role in the special. 397 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Guy that's his U. He's like a doctor or something 398 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: on him. I guess he did a lot of skin 399 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: row research. I was. I was not familiar with him. 400 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: I've never seen his name. So Ted Hayes came back. 401 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: We had Ted Hayes on the show years ago, a 402 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: long time ago. Yeah. Yeah, he's an activist. I I 403 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: had not heard his name in a long time, and 404 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I saw him in there in the middle. He met 405 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: a few good points. Uh, but you know, like all, 406 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: it was a balanced special with a lot of Ted 407 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: expressing and then of course right in the middle, Garcetti 408 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: I won't take any blame for this. Yeah, I'm not 409 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna make that that that's one of the central issues 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: as we had a very bad, lazy, irresponsible mayor for 411 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: the last nine years. I mean, that's at the core 412 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: of this. Other mayors would simply not put up with this, 413 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: they would take action. If you sat through the whole thing, really, 414 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: at the end, you came to the conclusion this can 415 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: be dealt with. It's not that complicated. Uh there's you 416 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: just have to have the will to do it. You 417 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: have to get up in the morning and saying, Okay, 418 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: we're going to do this, We're going to enforce these laws. 419 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: We're not putting up with this nonsense anymore. Every day 420 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: everybody connected has to say, okay, that's it. We're your 421 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: encampment there at the VA on the west side. Yeah, 422 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: that was there for a long time, and then in 423 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: a matter of weeks they just cleaned them all up. 424 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: In four years, the other side will say those people 425 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: are still homeless somewhere. Don't think the problem's gone. Actually 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: they what they were. A lot of them removed inside 427 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: the VA gates and they're living in the little tiny homes. Well, 428 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: there's a solution living inside those gates. They're not a 429 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: problem in the downtown Bretwood area anymore. They don't call, 430 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: they don't wander out during the day and still like 431 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: stand in front of your bagel store. I don't know 432 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: what they do during the day, but they're no. It's 433 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: no longer they really getting treatment. Could that be I 434 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. That's what the VA ought to 435 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: be doing. That's our that's an enormous amount of federal 436 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: tax money. So maybe they are, but they're off the street. 437 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the cancerous tumor was cut out 438 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: and now life is much freer and safer in the 439 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: downtown business district. You know, you could sit at the 440 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: restaurant and not be worried that somebody is gonna slice 441 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: your neck while you're having dinner. And so you can 442 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: do it. And they did it at the Venice Boardwalk. 443 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: They did it, that's the thing. They did it at 444 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Echo Park Lake and when they did it, it happened 445 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: quickly and there was no backlash. There was no consequence 446 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: other than people could enjoy the park or the boardwalk 447 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: or the business district. Again, well, I think the point 448 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: is if you keep doing it. Yeah, you're not gonna 449 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: get everybody off the streets, but if they keep getting 450 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: told they can't stay here, they'll probably make another choice eventually. 451 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: You know what. The theme though I heard in this 452 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: special that always irritates me is that it's not their fault. 453 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: There was nothing about homeless responsibility. Nothing there never is. 454 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: It's always, oh, it's the terrible housing in LA. It's 455 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: a positive housing, economic displacement. It's out of control Capitalism's listen. 456 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: And then when they talk to the homeless people, it's 457 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: excuse after excuse, you know, after excuse. And what I 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: couldn't stand. And I think Catherine Barger said this, the 459 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: county supervisor, and a lot of people say this, it's 460 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: like this silly cliche. This could happen to me, could 461 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: have happened to anyone, anyone. It's like, no, that would 462 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: never happen to me. First of all, I never took 463 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: any drugs. Let's start with that. Don't take any drugs. 464 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Don't get addicted to anything. You have to take it 465 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: often enough to get addicted. Don't do that. It's not 466 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: that complicated. Don't inject the needle into your arm ever. 467 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: Don't snort anything out of a pipe or a straw 468 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: or however you snort. Just don't do that. You're you're, you're, 469 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: you're you're. It's like they say about poverty that if 470 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: you if you do the following in order, go to school, 471 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: get a job, then get married, you have a ninety 472 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: eight percent chance of not being in poverty. And it's true. 473 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: Have your kid after the education, the job, and the marriage, 474 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: then have the kid, no very little chance of poverty. 475 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Just do the basics. It's not complicated, and and and 476 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: and so that's why I never worried about being homeless. 477 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: So they spend time on well, first they had these graphics. 478 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: One said that when the homeless were interviewed, fifty nine 479 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: percent said it was economic hardship to put them on 480 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: the streets. Oh yeah, not a lot admitted to any 481 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: sort of addiction, mental illness. There is nothing more useless 482 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: than a homeless poll. What it is is mental illness, 483 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: and mentally ill people either don't admit or don't know 484 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: their mental ill and drug addicts are notorious liars, and 485 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: they don't own up to what they're doing either. So 486 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: it's not that they were I see these people, it's like, well, 487 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, we had a house or I had a business, 488 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: and now you know, I'm suddenly I'm here. It's like, well, whoa, whoa, 489 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: You're leaving out ninety five percent of the story. Okay, 490 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: how about you know what steps did you take to 491 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: try to avoid being here? You didn't hear that part. 492 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: It's like you lost you lost a job. I mean 493 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: we've all lost jobs. We've all been fired, we've all 494 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: gotten laid off. Okay, my dad got laid off several 495 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: times while I was a kid. He applied at another factory, 496 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: got another job. That's what you do. There's twice as 497 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: many jobs as there are unemployed people right now. So no, 498 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: I kept I kept buying, yelling at the TV. It's like, 499 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: so go get a job. Okay, I mean, I mean 500 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: people are target or making twenty four dollars an hour. Yeah, 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: that's I think. The skid Row expert came in and said, 502 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: once you're on the street in a while, that changes 503 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: you almost like you have some sort of PTSD. Yeah, 504 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know, just become completely dysfunctional, and that gives 505 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: everybody a life. You can't just come along and say 506 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: get a job, because there's there's just so much screwed 507 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: up there, and that gives everybody a lifetime excuse, doesn't it. 508 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: That gives everybody a lifetime excuse. Except they had people 509 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: experts in this special that refuted that line of thinking. 510 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: They had one guy who was homeless for twenty three 511 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: years and now he's written a book and he has 512 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: a business and he's a success in life. So there 513 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: are people who fight their way out of even long 514 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: term homelessness and do something productive. But you have to 515 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: want to do it. You have to go for the rehab, 516 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: you have to go for the mental health treatment, you 517 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: have to go and look for work, you have to 518 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: take a shower in the morning. Then they went through 519 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: good old measure Proposition H and all that wasted money 520 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and the six seven, eight hundred thousand dollars apartments with 521 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: all of the special care that goes with it, the 522 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: built in treatment. And so you know the interesting thing 523 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: I found there, and it was Reverend Bales was there. 524 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: And Bales, yeah, who talked about how you can get 525 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: all sorts of mobile homes printed homes for a lot cheaper. 526 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: So then they put some expert on with a suit 527 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: who said, well, actually the measure doesn't allow mobile homes. 528 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: Sorry about then changed the measure. Then it was badly written. 529 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it was badly written on purpose so it could 530 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: reward all the politically convected contractors. Yes, that's what I 531 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: assume is at the bottom of a lot of this 532 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: is just corruption. Oh, yes, we're going to pass a 533 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: law so that are politically connected contractor friends can get 534 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: eight hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars worth of business 535 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: for every apartment. They knew that you could get a 536 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: tiny home built for sixty thousand, or a mobile home 537 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: or a three D printed home. They know that they 538 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: could have put that in the bill. They didn't. Why 539 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't they They existed at the time that had passed. 540 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: They do that on purpose, because then their friends can't 541 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: get rewarded. Their friends were probably lobbying for this bill 542 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: because they knew it would be billions of dollars of 543 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: free money. They could take years and years to build 544 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: a handful of apartments, and then an idiot like Garsetti 545 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and Bonden could use that as saying, Hey, it's like, 546 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, we are constructing things now and it just 547 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: costs eight hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars and then 548 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Andy Bales comes on and goes, Now, we could do 549 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: this for sixty thousand. We could have twenty homes to 550 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the amount they're spending on one home. It's just lies 551 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: in corruption. And I'm telling you on Garcetti's tombstone ought 552 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: to be the phrase lies and corruption. That's his life, 553 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: that's his political legacy. All Right, The La County Sheriff 554 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Alex Vieneueva is coming our way at three or five, 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Johnny kN caf all right, Sheriff Vieneueva will be with 556 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: us LA County Sheriff Alex Vieneueva, of course, on your 557 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: balloted along with eight opponents to be reelected as La 558 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: County Sheriff. He's our pick. He was not our pick 559 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. How do you like that? But this 560 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: apparently the demand that ran and the man that won. Well. 561 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: But I think it's a case of when he took 562 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the job, he saw what was out there and decided, 563 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: this is what I have to do when it comes 564 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: to crime and homelessness. He was in the news this 565 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: week because of this plan to do something about the 566 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: problems on the metro system with crime and homeless people 567 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: in drug use and all that we can talk to 568 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: him about all these things. And as I mentioned, he 569 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: was in the special last night on Lost Angeles on 570 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Fox eleven, and wasn't he a breath of fresh air 571 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: amidst all the political and expert gas. Yes, he would 572 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: say it's the architects of failure. Yeah, because he's right, 573 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: we're right, and these political leaders. Oh, there was one 574 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: woman on last night who was with one of the 575 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: companies that's build building the apartments. Oh yes, I saw her. 576 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh yes, she thought it was just wonderful, and I'm 577 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: yelling at the TV. Of course you think it's wonderful 578 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: because you probably are getting paid six figures, so you 579 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: just love having all this money dumped into your company 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: to build very expensive apartments for a guy who will 581 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: be crapping on the floor in about six months. So 582 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: of course you think this is the only way to go. 583 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Besides Garcetti and Barger, though, there really wasn't, Thankfully, a 584 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: lot of politicians on the special. We saw people from 585 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: all sort of because they're dishonest. I don't know if 586 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: that was by design or they didn't want to get involved, 587 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: but they controlled the damn money. That's the problem. I know. 588 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: I know and that, but they're they're disign Talking to them, 589 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, you might as well talk to you know, 590 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: your dog. It's not gonna make any sense. It's not 591 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna make any difference. They're not there to help, They're 592 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: not there to make life better for us. And the 593 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: sooner everyone understands that that these bozos are not in 594 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: office to make your life better, and you should get 595 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: rid of them. I don't know what the connection is 596 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: that voters have with some of these clowns just defies 597 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: any rational evaluation. The Times ran another one of its 598 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: doozies about the homeless. This is about a homeless encampment 599 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: in San Pedro that's due Buscaino's council district. The Last 600 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: Days of a homeless encampment in San Pedro. Ruben Vivis 601 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: wrote the story, and mostly he's interviewing the homeless. Well, 602 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: of course, have long stories to tell. I like the 603 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: way he wrote this. Though homeless people have long lived 604 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: in this greedy southern tip of La drawn to its 605 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: halfway houses, dive bars and cheap motels, they can hang 606 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: out in peace on the tree shaded hillside, taking in 607 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the sea breeze and watching the bustle of the nation's 608 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: busiest port. Why isn't that waxing poetic there? What the hell? 609 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: What to work? Get a job? I can sit there 610 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: all day, taking in the sea breezes from the hillside. 611 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: You're sitting in your own way. Get out of here. Oh, 612 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: and that this part came up last night, and that 613 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: special too about they're part of our community. They are not. 614 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: That's not how it works. Just because they squawk down 615 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: the street from you doesn't mean you owe them a house. 616 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand this. I don't know how to break 617 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: through this. I'm really I mean, just bang my head 618 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: against And some of the surveys show you they're from 619 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: from out of the city. I don't care if out 620 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: of the city, that doesn't matter to me. And even 621 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: if they grew up in your town, they're homeless. Now. 622 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: They're not a part of your community. They have to 623 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: make themselves a part of your community by being responsible 624 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: for their lives and managing a way to live. That's it. Yeah, Otherwise, 625 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: take a hike. I don't care where you go out. 626 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: And of course there was attacking that special last night 627 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: about the namdis. Everybody wants to do something about the 628 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Home News. But when it comes to maybe putting up 629 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: some home news homes in their neighborhood, no, well, yeah, 630 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: I agree, it's right now, it's right, and it's gonna 631 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: be no forever because we didn't buy our homes and 632 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: we don't pay this enormous tax bird and just to 633 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: have people who put up some structure full of homeless 634 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: people next door, Yeah, no way, it's never gonna happen. 635 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't care what names they 636 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: call you, I or call us. I don't care. You're 637 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: not getting that thing built in my neighborhood. This is 638 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: this is insane. All these people have to make better 639 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: decisions in life and go get jobs and take a 640 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: shower and go get the treatment. That's their responsibility, because 641 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: once you turn eighteen, it is your responsibility to make 642 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: it in the world. You have to. So the gist 643 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: of this story just to summarize it because we're out 644 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: of time otherwise there's a lot more to poke at. 645 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: Is that you know, LA has that ordinance that they 646 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: pass last summer and Joe Buskayano voted for it, but 647 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: he's got a better one, he thinks. But that's how 648 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: you can go to the city council and say here's 649 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: an area where I want to clear out the homeless, 650 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: and then they vote on it. We know all this right, 651 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: so the summation here is well, the process seems like 652 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: a dismal game of musical chairs, where for every person 653 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: to get shelter, many others return to the streets or 654 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: move to the next spot, only to move again and again. 655 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: Trying to make the point that this isn't a solution. 656 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: Just clearing out the homeless from a public area means 657 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: they're just going to come back in or find another 658 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: public area to live in. This is not the solution. 659 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: That's like the solutions, make them responsible for their lives finally, 660 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: once and for all. Stop babying them. How many times 661 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: have to scream this, stop enabling and baby and you 662 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: do not owe anybody anything. But that's what we're finding 663 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: out from the activist crowd. They do believe that housing 664 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: is a right and everybody in the country should be 665 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: built a seven hundred thousand dollars apartments with services whatever 666 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: they need. That's stupid, mental health a jim, I don't know, 667 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: it's impractical, it's an unfair burden everywhere. They think the 668 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: country is wealthy enough. They they talk about the Elon 669 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Musks and you know the Jeff Bezos people. 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