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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Giants Soda Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmelk. It's time to take a look at

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Speaker 1: the cornerback position, a spot with a lot of competition

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Speaker 1: this year for the New York Giants. Some young players,

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Speaker 1: some vets, rookie Andrew Phillips, a bunch of other players,

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Speaker 1: but of course the player that fans probably are most

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Speaker 1: excited to see in his second year is cornerback Deonty Banks.

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Giants second year cornerback, Theonty Banks.

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Speaker 2: Tank us you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, all right, So tell me from your perspective,

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Speaker 1: what is it you like about this new defensive system

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Speaker 1: that Shaane Bwenes put in. How's it gonna help you out?

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Speaker 3: I really love it, to be honest, honestly, that is

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Speaker 3: still aggressive, So like I love and I also love

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Speaker 3: playing Manstrell, I still love it.

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Speaker 2: Still. It's still fun, you know, And it's funny.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people when they hear Zone they

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Speaker 1: think all right back off, keep things in front of you, right,

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Speaker 1: But but that's not what this is, only defense. Can

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Speaker 1: you kind of explain that kind of dichotomy for fans.

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Speaker 3: I'm instill aggressive. If I'm instill aggressive, we're still gonna

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Speaker 3: be the same. Basically, it's just planning a little bit

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Speaker 3: more zone.

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Speaker 2: Like it's a little bit and.

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen it in practice, like you guys

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Speaker 1: have been all over the football. Yeah, in the second year,

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Speaker 1: it seems like have you guys caught onto this pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: And we're learning. We're still learning, but we honestly still

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Speaker 3: getting better with it. So we're having fun with it,

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out what we need to do, figure

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Speaker 3: out little tweaks in there.

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Speaker 2: So it's good. It's good for especially Ota.

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Speaker 3: It's a good time now get you feel mean, just

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Speaker 3: to learn the defense and try to be everybody just

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Speaker 3: work together, so it's good for us.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned you like to play press man. You were

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Speaker 1: really good at that coming out of college. That great

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Speaker 1: last year. But when we spoke last year, I think

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Speaker 1: it was maybe week thirteen order we had the discussion

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Speaker 1: and you're like, well, remember I got my interceptions playing

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Speaker 1: zone last year. You're over the conversation. So is this

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Speaker 1: and all the dbs that I've talked to have said

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Speaker 1: what they like about this system is eyes on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what that means to you?

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Speaker 3: Really, just trying to play the bar Now we can

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Speaker 3: play my eyes on a quarter back, so if you

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Speaker 3: see the ball, you can go get it now.

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Speaker 1: Now that requires a lot of preparation though, too, right,

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Speaker 1: because you have to be able to anticipate. Talk to

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Speaker 1: me how your film study helps make this offense and

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Speaker 1: your ability to watch the quarterback a little bit more effective?

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Speaker 2: Really, just no one's coming, no one.

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Speaker 3: What takes spect and knowing like when I can look

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Speaker 3: so I can go get the ball and being aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Now you've never been won. The lack of confidence. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to ask you more confident the

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Speaker 1: second run. I know you were confident yea. So what's

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Speaker 1: the difference for you in your second year in the

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Speaker 1: NFL having a full off season. You don't worry about,

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Speaker 1: you know, running through the combine, you don't not worry

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Speaker 1: about getting drafted. You're actually here working on your game

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Speaker 1: all off season. What's going to be different for Tay

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Speaker 1: Banks in year two?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: Just like I said, I keep saying no one, what's coming,

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Speaker 3: no oning, what takes spect and knowing when to be aggressive,

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Speaker 3: when I can go get this, when I can do that.

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Speaker 3: That's really just what it is, all the mental aspect,

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Speaker 3: because physically I'm always gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're good. I'm not gonna have your name names.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into trouble. Do you have Have

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Speaker 1: you looked at this schedule and have you circled certain

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Speaker 3: They're really just focusing on getting better every day and

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Speaker 1: What's the upside for the secondary? You got some vets

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Speaker 3: We compete're a real competitive group. We let it compete

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Speaker 3: and we're going to make each other better.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Final question, I want to ask you about the wide

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Speaker 1: you can't wait. You can't wait to do it, But

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Speaker 1: give me a preview of what you think. This wide

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Speaker 2: Great elite group. There can be an elite.

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Speaker 1: And I think you said this earlier. You and neighbors

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Speaker 1: like athletically, you guys are really similar to having matchups

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Speaker 2: Training for sure.

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Speaker 1: Always how good of a ever? Can he be?

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Speaker 2: Elite? Get me real good? We're gonna make each other

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Speaker 2: better though, we're gonna work. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the training can take good stuff.

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Speaker 1: My man appreciate it, dude. Now we're jined by Giants

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Speaker 1: quarterback Cordell.

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Speaker 2: How are you? Man?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: How are you so?

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Speaker 1: You've been belly back outside? Now you're kind of like

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Speaker 1: a ping pong ole. You just kinda go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Are you happy with the move back outside?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely excited for it.

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Speaker 4: Really don't matter means just whatever the team needs, and

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Speaker 4: whatever we need is defense, So I'm definitely excited.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about playing outside?

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Speaker 4: I can narrow the game down more you know, I

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Speaker 4: be able to play off play press, you know, have

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Speaker 4: an idea of what's coming next. So like I like

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Speaker 1: Of this and probably not having as many pulling guards

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Speaker 1: kind of narrowing on you probably isn't a bad thing either,

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Speaker 1: right Zachy, Yeah, you're right about that. What are some

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Speaker 1: of the things from a technique perspective that Shane Bowen

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Speaker 4: Most of Portland film study. Oh, when you dive into family,

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Speaker 4: his defense is a simple defense. So in that way

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Speaker 4: and that aspect, people going to know what you're in,

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Speaker 4: you got dial in on watching film and the other

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Speaker 4: going against and what they like to do. So it'd

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Speaker 4: be more so about us first in them seconds. So

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Speaker 4: that's how I see the difference.

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Speaker 1: Is it fair to call it more of a reading

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Speaker 4: How so, because like I said, you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: So I feel like you.

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Speaker 4: Got to read and react when the ball's wrong. Everybody

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Speaker 1: So you took the words out of my mouth. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say eyes on the quarterback, right, I gotta

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Speaker 1: imagine for a defensive backfield. You guys want to make

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Speaker 1: plays on the ball, right exactly. That makes it a

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Speaker 1: make players in the ball, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: your prep's not right. Right, But in order to anticipate correctly,

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Speaker 1: you need to know what your offense, the opposing offense

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Speaker 1: is trying to do with satuations exactly? Is that stuff

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Speaker 1: that you're working on already watching opponents. Yeah, we can.

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Speaker 4: We can do that as well, but right now we

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Speaker 4: learn about the technical stuff. We build that chemistry. H

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Speaker 4: We're starting to learn within each other and who fits

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Speaker 4: what in what spots. So right now we're doing that

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Speaker 4: and as a game go and as we get more

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Speaker 1: And I gotta imagine communication for you guys is probably

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Speaker 1: also paramount in this type of zone match too, right,

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Speaker 1: How so why why? Because communication?

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Speaker 4: Everybody got an ideal job and you got to handle

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Speaker 4: it as you're one to eleven the best you can

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Speaker 4: and it's a it'll leave a spot or holding defense

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Speaker 4: if you don't do your job, and it'll show.

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Speaker 1: So now that you're heading into this year and you

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Speaker 1: in terms of what they're asking you do to right

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Speaker 4: I'm just working on being a factor of right now,

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Speaker 4: working on being the best version of myself. And the

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Speaker 4: biggest jump I'm trying to make is, like I say,

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Speaker 1: When you say be a factor, explain to me what

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Speaker 4: I want to be dominant. I want to side if

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Speaker 4: it'll be dominant. I want to show the world what

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Speaker 4: I got so because it's funny when people think zone,

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Speaker 4: they think off coverage.

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Speaker 1: You know, keep everything in front of you. But I

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Speaker 1: all our platforms. You guys aren't playing soft coverage out

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Speaker 1: there and then and you aren't allowed to do press

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Speaker 1: So talk about that balance between being off and playing zone.

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Speaker 1: But you guys have gone your hands on the football ton,

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Speaker 1: So explain to me kind of how you balance those

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Speaker 4: Changing up the perspective for the quarterback as whether that's

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Speaker 4: zone the line or blitz a line or man the line,

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Speaker 4: giving a quarterback different looks, I mean, and going up

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Speaker 4: on third down or staying back on first second, just

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Speaker 4: whichever the game plan may be in. So changing up

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Speaker 4: to looks for the quarterback make them hard to identify

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Speaker 4: what we're in or what type of pressures were. So

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're excited for that.

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Speaker 1: What's your feel for Andrew Phillips Like an.

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Speaker 4: Explosive, smart, instinctive player. I feel like I like him

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Speaker 4: in a nickel spot. He he's a good player, like

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Speaker 4: all around, Like I like to see it.

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Speaker 1: So how do you think the secondary unit as a

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Speaker 4: I love it. We are young guys and we all

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Speaker 4: continue to build at chemistry, like I said a while ago,

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Speaker 4: contending to learn about each other, taking notes from Jalen Mills.

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Speaker 4: We got an extra veteran in him room and so

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Speaker 1: For a final question, how much does it help your

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Speaker 4: Yea is exactly how it's going to extra meeting time,

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Speaker 5: You loved turf You're good at it. So you start

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Speaker 1: How are you man?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? All right?

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Speaker 1: Tell me about what it's been like trying to kind

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Speaker 2: It's been great.

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Speaker 6: You know, good group of guys in terms of the

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Speaker 2: Things from them.

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Speaker 6: I'm family friends and I grew up with Darnay Holmes,

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Speaker 1: He you talk about Darny trying to get you used

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely.

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Speaker 6: You know, Like you said, I think I've seen pretty

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Speaker 6: I'm just preparing myself to play anywhere and needed, and uh,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I know I've been in the league a good amount

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Speaker 1: What are the things that are good about this system

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just feel like from a decoordinator standpoint,

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Speaker 6: Shane gives good clarity on you know, how he wants

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Speaker 6: that can kind of, you know, give me some anticipation

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Speaker 1: You expect yourself to be outside mostly in the slot.

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Speaker 1: What are they think's going to use you the most?

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Speaker 6: I have no idea, you know. I'm just prepared to

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Speaker 1: You can play both obviously, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I played a both slide to play nickelb also play

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Speaker 6: some money backer. So yeah, I've done everything all right.

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Speaker 1: Finally, for Giant fans and maybe haven't seen you play

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Speaker 1: in the past, describe a game for them? What what

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Speaker 2: Man? Uh? Describing my game.

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Speaker 1: Tough to do sometimes, you know you know what I mean, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean when I think about it, you know, I came

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Speaker 6: I kind of look at myself in many ways as

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Speaker 6: I said, I've been coveted as a cover corner going

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Speaker 6: there and you know, cover guys, that's what I was

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I guess I put Swiss Army Knife. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Right, now we're joined by Giants cornerback Trey Hawkins. Trey

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Speaker 1: Hoy You doing.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm doing good. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, dude. So last year you got thrown

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Speaker 1: don't get floaties. You're just going in and you better

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Speaker 1: swive or you're getna sink. Yeah, how did you grow

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Speaker 7: I feel like every year, well like from me, just

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Speaker 7: of being one of those guys who like, once they

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Speaker 7: the fire. So it's always gonna just come. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: When you had a chance to have the season to

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Speaker 1: You're trying to figure things out as you go. When

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Speaker 7: Just the IQ of the game football, one on one,

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Speaker 7: just things and cheats that will help you within within

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you think this defensive system suits your

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Speaker 7: Wink is more of an aggressive and Shane's aggresive too,

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Speaker 7: but in his own way, he's more of a zone

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Speaker 7: based defense, and I like it. I mean I kind

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Speaker 7: So I mean, yeah, it's it's a good defense.

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Speaker 7: You usually got more vision, so you can, like you

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Speaker 7: your press like a lot of the times, like you're

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Speaker 7: you unless you like you know, not saying no to play,

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Speaker 7: but you have to really be in a great position

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Speaker 1: And I imagine that that plays into your preparation too, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, what is it about the way Bones taught

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Speaker 2: You say, the way Shane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the way Shane's teaching you, the way Jerome Henderson's

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Speaker 1: watch film, but a lot of times people younger players

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Speaker 7: That's kind of what I'm doing now that like that,

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Speaker 7: I had that process last year, just actually learning how

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Speaker 7: there and compete sure kind of guy. So just asking questions,

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Speaker 7: I mean there everybody's in there, everybody from Shane to

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Speaker 2: Like, everybody's willing to answer a question. Everybody's willing to

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Speaker 7: So I feel like that kind of helps, like because

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Speaker 2: So I feel like just asking that question that helps.

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Speaker 2: So questions help.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, special teams is a role through. You're

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's kind of the same a little bit.

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Speaker 7: They just took out the running, but yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 7: It might it might be it might be a little

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Speaker 7: like it might be. It might be quick touchdown or

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Speaker 7: a block, quick block and quick.

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Speaker 2: Everything is so quick and aggressive.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what everybody knows. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun, trade good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Then yes, sir, joy the rest of the number. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early, but

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Speaker 5: Are you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Football is coming and so is the next college semester.

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Speaker 1: If you need funding, a Citizen Student loan could help

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Speaker 1: joined by Giants defensive back Nick McCloud and I say

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Speaker 1: defensive back because I don't know what to call you anymore.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: They put you in safety. They have the outside corner

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Speaker 1: last year, and now you're playing the slot and OTAs,

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Speaker 1: why do you think you're able to move around? And

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Speaker 1: they have confidence in you to play all these different spots.

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Speaker 8: I mean, just like you said, just the trust between

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Speaker 8: to go out there and just they're not going to

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Speaker 8: get in my playbook and just do everything I can

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Speaker 8: to help the team win, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's that's more so what it is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, now you've been in a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Bowen's defenses and remind you anything like how does that

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Speaker 1: on what you guys did with Wink the last couple

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I feel like last year, everybody knows

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Speaker 8: blitz man. But this year we got a lot more

444
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Speaker 8: vision on the quarterback.

445
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

446
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Speaker 8: I feel like that's gonna benefit benefit myself and the

447
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Speaker 8: defense as a whole. So we got some guys in

448
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Speaker 8: front that's gonna go get the quarterback and we get

449
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Speaker 8: to play with some visions. So that's going to be

450
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Speaker 8: beneficial to all of us.

451
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Speaker 1: And I gotta imagine that's a lot of preparation too, right, Busy,

452
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,080
Speaker 1: you got vision on the quarterback. That means you're anticipating,

453
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Speaker 1: and you can only anticipate correctly if you've watched the

454
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Speaker 1: tape and know what the team's trying to do to you.

455
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Speaker 2: Right.

456
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Speaker 8: No, definitely, Like you said, we all got to be

457
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,719
Speaker 8: tied in together, all got to be tied into what

458
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Speaker 8: the offense trying to do to us as well. So

459
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Speaker 8: it's going to be a fun year, you know what

460
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Speaker 8: I'm saying. We still working through some kinks, but it's

461
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Speaker 8: still OTA's and many camps that we got time to

462
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Speaker 8: get it done.

463
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you got some young guys back there too,

464
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Speaker 1: second round draft pick Tyler Nuben in safety, Andrew Phillips,

465
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Speaker 1: third round pick a quarnerback. How the young guys kind

466
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Speaker 1: of picked up everything you guys are trying to.

467
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Speaker 8: I mean, they've been picking up pretty good, you know

468
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Speaker 8: what I'm saying. Like we just we don't really ask

469
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Speaker 8: too much of them. We just asked that they come

470
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Speaker 8: in and just play hard, work hard, and then just

471
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Speaker 8: study the playbook hard.

472
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Speaker 2: And they've been doing it, you know what I'm saying.

473
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Speaker 8: So definitely proud of those guys and how they approach

474
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Speaker 8: this off season program.

475
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Speaker 1: For sure, I want to talk to you about special

476
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Speaker 1: teams to be is that's a that's a big part

477
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Speaker 1: of your game. What has it been like working with

478
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Speaker 1: new special teams scording to Michael.

479
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Speaker 2: Golber, Yeah, it's been good. It's been good, you know

480
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

481
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Speaker 8: It's definitely a little bit different with some of the

482
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Speaker 8: rules and everything, but it's been good.

483
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Speaker 1: So you talk about the rules. What's your impression of

484
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Speaker 1: the new kickoff?

485
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Speaker 8: I mean, I really don't have an impression of it

486
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Speaker 8: right now. Just go out there, seaball, getball. That's how

487
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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. That's how I see special

488
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 8: team you know what I'm saying. So I really don't

489
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Speaker 8: have too much to say because I haven't really seen

490
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Speaker 8: it how it's gonna play out yet.

491
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Speaker 2: So we will see.

492
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Speaker 1: Though, how do you think you've been in the league.

493
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Speaker 1: You don't how these coaches kind of try to set

494
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Speaker 1: things up. How do you think that's gonna go. We're

495
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Speaker 1: gonna have you think some big returns earlier in the

496
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Speaker 1: year as the teams try to kind of I don't think, honestly,

497
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has a damn clue what anyone's

498
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Speaker 1: planning to do on these kickoffs, And I think it's

499
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Speaker 1: gonna be a huge surprise once you get the week one.

500
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Speaker 2: And I'll be lying if I said I did have

501
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Speaker 2: a clue. So I have no clues.

502
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Speaker 1: So is that fun? Though? Like they're kind of going

503
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Speaker 1: in and then everyone's kind of trying to figure this

504
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Speaker 1: out together at the same time.

505
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Speaker 8: I mean, I guess you could say it's fun, but

506
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Speaker 8: me personally, I'm a little scary to that kind of light.

507
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Speaker 2: Wants to know what I'm getting into. So yeah, well.

508
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Speaker 1: It should be fun to see Nick. We appreciate the time, man,

509
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Good stuff. And now we're joined by

510
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Speaker 1: giants rookie cornerback Andrew Phillips. Andrew, how are you man?

511
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Speaker 2: I'm good man.

512
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Speaker 9: How you doing?

513
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Speaker 2: So?

514
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Speaker 1: How has the transition been for you so far? From

515
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 1: college to the pros wearing the big Blue?

516
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Speaker 9: It's been good? You know, I like, I love every

517
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 9: bit of it. I'm in here, I'm having fun, but

518
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 9: like I'm just locked in and it's been a good transition,

519
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 9: you know. Coach Rome and everybody, they set me up

520
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 9: for a good uh good opportunity and I'm just trying

521
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 9: to come in and I'm going full speed. I'm ann

522
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 9: mess up, but like you know, it's part of part

523
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Speaker 9: of learning, and it's been it's been good.

524
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 1: Now on the field, you've pretty much been exclusively Nickel, correct,

525
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 1: are you? I know, because a lot of times they

526
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Speaker 1: say they want everybody learning everything. Are you doing the

527
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: mental part of the stuff for outside too, or did

528
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 1: they tell you look to get things started, just focusing

529
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: on the Nickel, focusing on the slot and that's going

530
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Speaker 1: to be your first priority.

531
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's definitely how it was. They came in. It's

532
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 9: like they want out to be my first priority. And

533
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 9: then but I'm always listening to that corner stuff. So

534
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 9: now I'm like, well i'd be watching it. Sometimes I'm

535
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 9: like I can still go out there. I can go

536
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 9: out there and still do it sometimes like I played

537
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 9: it like this before, but right now it's just Nickel

538
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 9: and I'm learning that getting that lockdown and you know,

539
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 9: just taking mental notes.

540
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: And you played Nickel and college. This is nothing new

541
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: to you. Obviously. You need a chance to talk to

542
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: your coaches on our on our podcast a few weeks ago,

543
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: talking about you like you know, locking in and working it.

544
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: And I remember there was a competition right and decided

545
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: to have I forget the name of your teammate and

546
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: didn't play outside and you moved into the slot. And

547
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Speaker 1: they love the way that you embraced the role and

548
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: attacked it. Why was that a position that you thought

549
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of fit your skill set, your attitude and and

550
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: kind of what you're good at.

551
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just like when it comes down to it,

552
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 9: and when you're at that nickel and you're like in

553
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 9: the run game physical.

554
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: I like to be You're right in the run game,

555
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: Nico Man. Well, yeah, pulling guards, coming at your.

556
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 9: Guards, tackles. I've never really shot away from them, no

557
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 9: matter how big. So being in there and just proving

558
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 9: myself I can go in there and I can compete

559
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 9: and win against some of these guys and do it.

560
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 9: You know, it's always been something like I just I'm

561
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Speaker 9: a competitor. So when I when I gave me that role,

562
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 9: I was like, shoot, like, I'm gonna do it to

563
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Speaker 9: the best I can. And I went in there and

564
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 9: did it. Now I'm here, so you know, it's just

565
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 9: putting your best foot forward every day.

566
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Speaker 1: And I know, you know, the outside guys get all

567
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: the hype and all that stuff. I think slot's a

568
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: lot tougher, you know, you you talked about the run

569
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: game stuff. There's a lot of moving pieces in there,

570
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: things going on, and you gotta deal with the two

571
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: way go. Yeah, you don't have the sideline there. You know,

572
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: this guy can run out, he can run in, and

573
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of field on either side of

574
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: you that that you gotta cover. So how do you

575
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of try to mitigate all that space and shrink

576
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: the field a little bit when you're in the slot

577
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: one on one again some of these really quick and

578
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: fast wide receivers.

579
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's definitely the hard part. But when you get

580
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 9: in there and you're playing the game, it's what makes

581
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 9: good slots good slots, cause you're always gonna have some

582
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 9: type of help somewhere. Like when you're playing Slot, there's

583
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 9: always gonna be somewhere, but where you can really separate

584
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 9: and use those people around you and really like knowing

585
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 9: your defense and where everyone's supposed to be at. So

586
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 9: you use those type of guys and know where your

587
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 9: hell's going to be, you can kind of eliminate some

588
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 9: of those two way goes. But on top of it,

589
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 9: you gotta be quick and you gotta almost anticipate. It's

590
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 9: a lot of anticipation and knowing what you're doing down there.

591
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 9: So put all those things together and that's what makes

592
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 9: it a lot on the corner. And that's what I'm

593
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 9: trying to be a Now you hit.

594
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: It, man. How is Jerum Henderson in and some of

595
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: the vets in the room. Even Jalen Mills is a safety,

596
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: he didn't play slot back into. I'm sure he's talked

597
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: to you a lot about it. Nick McCloud's been there

598
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: with the ones. What are some of the things that

599
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: they told you about transitioning to that nickel role in

600
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: the NFL that maybe is a little bit different than Yeah.

601
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Speaker 9: I mean me and Mills we get extra work and

602
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 9: every day have to practice. Like he's like he's been

603
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 9: a mentor in every aspect. Like thee days, he's like,

604
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 9: I don't like the way you play this. So he'll

605
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 9: we'll after practice, we'll go and we'll touch up on it.

606
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 9: He'll tell me, like the benefits of playing a different ways.

607
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: He's does he see that live or does he see

608
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: that after he looks at the taper practice after he's alive.

609
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 9: Interesting, he's alive, and he'll go and just do it

610
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 9: because he's so experienced where he can see it. And

611
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 9: you know, every single day is of learning experience, especially

612
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 9: with him and some of those older guys like Nick.

613
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 9: I go to him all the time aster stuff. But

614
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 9: it's good having guys and there's been played a position

615
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 9: that knows what they're doing. And I'm a rook and

616
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to soak it all in, like every thing,

617
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 9: but everything they say, I listen like and I just

618
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 9: learned from it, and I'm taking everything they saying.

619
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Speaker 1: Do you and Tyler ever get together, the two rookies

620
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: and you kind of sit down, I know you kind

621
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: of different positions, Yeah, but you guys are both dbs

622
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: and and compare notes and then try to, you know,

623
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: smooth out the rough edges as that you guys try

624
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: to figure this out at the same time.

625
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, because you know, we sit next to each other,

626
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 9: so it's almost like and especially Tyler, because he's such

627
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 9: a smart guy, Like I don't get it, but he's

628
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 9: such a such a smart guy.

629
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Speaker 1: Everyone has said that, by the way, how he's picked

630
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: things up there.

631
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 9: He picks things up fast, and I'm the type of

632
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 9: guy to go make mistakes. So there's times where we

633
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 9: have to compare and contrast and like bump heads. And

634
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 9: but that's just like.

635
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: Part of learning.

636
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 9: And know, anytime I hear him talking or just like anything,

637
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 9: I'm just listening because we piggyback off each other. You know,

638
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 9: he can go down like he's the type of guy

639
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 9: he knows all like safety to know everything where he

640
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 9: can go play that nickel, And I'm trying to get

641
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 9: to that point where I can know everything down there

642
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 9: I can go back and play that safety. So we

643
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 9: piggyback and we're just trying to fuel off each other.

644
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: Finally, have you had it. I'm trying to think of back.

645
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I've watched all your reps in the spring. I think

646
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: he's done a couple of times. You're looking forward to

647
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: lining up across from fellow rookie league neighbors and doing

648
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: some Yeah, I have at some point in the summer, I've.

649
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 9: Got I haven't guarded him too much, but like, yeah,

650
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 9: I look up against it like he's a cool guy,

651
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 9: but I know on that field he has things that

652
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 9: made him my first top ten pick and he's.

653
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: Both of the s.

654
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a great competitor, so I'm I'm always looking

655
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 9: forward to go against them. It's just gonna make me

656
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 9: better and I don't want to see what he's talking about,

657
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 9: so uh yeah, I'm excited for that, Drew.

658
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: This is fun, man. I can't wait to see you

659
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: on the field when the pads come on in the summer.

660
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. Thank you, Thank you, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us on this quarterbacks edition of

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Speaker 1: the Giants Total Podcast. Barky by City sends the official

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Speaker 1: bank of the Giants, thanks for being with us throughout

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Speaker 1: this offseason as we get ready for training camp and

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Speaker 1: we focus on the Giants defense and offense position by position.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. We will see you next time. Everybody,