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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fighter or Friday,

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Speaker 1: July nine, and boy, we had a kind of a

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Speaker 1: good NBA game yesterday, had a great, absolutely great afternoon,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys see it on the Grahama No

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Speaker 1: you love that stuff. Um and boy do we have

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Speaker 1: a special guest today? So yesterday I was able to

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Speaker 1: secure well, I gotta give Rob g credit. He was

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Speaker 1: able to secure a guy who I recently had on

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Speaker 1: my radio show named Mike Coppinger, who covers I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is it mixed martial arts, boxing, fighting, combat sports, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call that. He's covering both for ESPN.

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Speaker 1: So he's in Vegas for the big Connor MacGregor fight.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this weekend in sports all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden got real nice. I mean, you've got NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: two incredible soccer games, ana Connor McGregor fight like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty damn good weekend in sports for the

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Speaker 1: middle early July. Um So, anyways, we talked to Mike

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Speaker 1: Coppinger yesterday and the guy had just broken a massive

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Speaker 1: story on the Tyson Fury fight, likely getting postponed due

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Speaker 1: to a COVID outbreak in the uh Tyson Fury camp. Um,

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Speaker 1: just a crazy afternoon for me for this podcast for

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Speaker 1: our guest Mike Coppinger. Will get to him shortly. Um,

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Speaker 1: But first, absolutely first, gotta start with Game two the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. And I am absolutely ticked off because your

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Speaker 1: boy had a perfect night going gambling. You guys know

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Speaker 1: I do the nightly picks for Fox Sports. I've been

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Speaker 1: betting every single night of the NBA playoffs and I

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Speaker 1: had a four no ripped out of my wallet. Four.

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Speaker 1: Now I had the Sons. I had y honest over

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Speaker 1: rebounds which hit in the third quarter, Middleton over assists

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Speaker 1: which hit in the third quarter. And then Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: assists while the Sun's winning the game and covering which

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Speaker 1: would hit Chris Paul assists. Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: So the Sons, with like three minutes left, Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: passes to Michael Bridges who takes a dribbler two and

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Speaker 1: The box score online goes from eight to nine. Boom

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Speaker 1: over eight A half, huge win, awesome four, No your

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Speaker 1: boy Roland and they take it away like three minutes

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Speaker 1: later they said no, no Bridges. Well they didn't explain it.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming, but Bridges dribbled I think once or twice

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Speaker 1: close in and they refused to give Chris Paul the assists.

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Speaker 1: Just an absolute stunnard gutting for me. Um the game,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm more interested in the gambling on

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Speaker 1: the finals, guys. I'm sorry, Um the game. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: Bucks led big early, Chris Middleton, Pete all over his health.

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Speaker 1: Drew Holiday can't throw it in the ocean. Drew Holiday

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Speaker 1: just a nightmare series so far. This is the guy

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Speaker 1: they got to replace Eric Bledsoe and how today is

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Speaker 1: having a bloodshow type offensive series and he's playing damn

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Speaker 1: good defense. But Drew Holiday seven for one, seventeen points,

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Speaker 1: eleven for thirty five shooting. I'll do the math for

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Speaker 1: you from deep one of seven six. I tried to

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Speaker 1: Trey Young injured and Bogdanovich. It's another to chase Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul and Devin Booker through a gauntlet of screens and

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Speaker 1: I think this is the story of the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks did get let the sun set twenty three pointers.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna win when they do that. But the

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Speaker 1: and over twenty five years, Janice had I think it

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Speaker 1: he was absolutely gas as a guy coming off an injury. Um.

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Speaker 1: The last guy to score over twenty points in a

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Speaker 1: the Sons in ninety three. And then, of course Isaiah Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who can forget that epic game in the forum where

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Speaker 1: but I obviously had to watch the game, like I'm

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Speaker 1: Byron Scott. It was just an amazing performance and I

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Speaker 1: all over the place. Jake Crowder had no chance. DeAndre Ayton,

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Speaker 1: But this I think, okay, So the biggest stories, uh

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Speaker 1: Number one the Sons. If you hit twenty three pointers,

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Speaker 1: number two Janice incredible performance. But I do believe the

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Speaker 1: series is not over. I had talked up a Sun

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Speaker 1: The Sons played Frank the Tank Kaminski in the fourth

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Speaker 1: But like, I'm sorry, you can't play this guy in

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Speaker 1: But still their bench has it was a big advantage

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Speaker 1: You remove Sarah's you don't have a backup center. You

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Speaker 1: cannot play Frank Kaminski against Nice. It will end very badly.

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Speaker 1: And now you take away Tory Craig, who's that wing

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Speaker 1: When you remove Eton, you can play a bunch of wings.

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Speaker 1: And really that that lineup gave the Bucks some problem

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Speaker 1: And again the casual NBA fan doesn't give two ships

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul was tired at is undeniable, folks, And now

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm just telling you this Phoenix team. I

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Speaker 1: like Javon Carter on the bench. Shout out of West Virginia. Yes,

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Speaker 1: did not give Micaal Bridges his flowers for dropping twenty

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Speaker 1: think they played great in game one. They played pretty

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Speaker 1: The things that they do well are precisely the things

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Speaker 1: can stop doing a Eric Blitzer impersonation, which I know

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Speaker 1: you're a big stats gut check this out. Eric blitzo

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Speaker 1: am hopeful for Connor's chances is he hurt poor A

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Speaker 1: pretty badly in that first round before he was finished.

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Speaker 1: He he just seems to me to get a little

426
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Speaker 1: requis after he heard him and then he got caught himself. So, look,

427
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Speaker 1: you're knocked out in the first fight back in I

428
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Speaker 1: think two. I think he's gonna get the job done

429
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Speaker 1: this time and then move on to the title shot

430
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Speaker 1: against Oliver Error. So so, Mike, you said Connor McGregor

431
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: he really needs it. Okay, it's tough for me and

432
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Speaker 1: the casual observer to say, boy, I guys probably got

433
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Speaker 1: a hundred mill plus in the bank. Does he really

434
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Speaker 1: need this fight? I mean, he had a great quote

435
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Speaker 1: this week when he said, you know, I took the

436
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: last fight with this guy lightly. I was trying to

437
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: mean mug and talk trash and get in his face

438
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: and then you know the next hour, I'm feeding my

439
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: kid a bottle and reading stories to my daughter like

440
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of a tough sell. Is it that easy for

441
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Speaker 1: a guy at this stage in his career to just

442
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Speaker 1: flip the switch? Um, I don't think it's easy to

443
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Speaker 1: flip the switch. But when you say you talk about

444
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Speaker 1: all the riches he has, yes, it's a lot of money,

445
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: but you still want to win for your legacy, for

446
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: your pride. I mean, we're talking about fighters have ug goos.

447
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: Who has a bigger ego than Connor McGregor, And you know,

448
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: he's when you think of Macheesmo, you think of Connor McGregor.

449
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: At least for me, he does not want to lose

450
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: again to a guy in Dustin Pourier, but he already

451
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Speaker 1: beat once. He wants to be in these big money fights.

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Speaker 1: And actually, for those who don't know, he actually had

453
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Speaker 1: done the deal to fight any pack you out in

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Speaker 1: a boxing match and Abu Dhabi, that fight was a

455
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Speaker 1: done deal. All you have to do is be Pourier

456
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Speaker 1: so was he looking past him maybe a little bit,

457
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Speaker 1: But that pack You fight, that would have been a

458
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Speaker 1: beating anyway, he would have got Well, I don't does

459
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: Pacio beat anybody? When was the last time knock somebody out?

460
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Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know McGregor would have got roughed up.

461
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, let's back up a little. So McGregor,

462
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, clearly is the bankable dude. He goes and

463
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Speaker 1: fights Mayweather fight in air quotes. Mayweather makes a ton

464
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Speaker 1: of money and now you just mentioned he was gonna

465
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Speaker 1: box Packie out another massive, colossal pay day. So does

466
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Speaker 1: this guy want to fight or just make money? And

467
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm again I'm not you know, say anything negative. He

468
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Speaker 1: just if he just wants to catch lots and lots

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Speaker 1: of money, generational wealth for like his kids, his kids,

470
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: kids and all that. I think he enjoys fighting, I

471
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Speaker 1: really do. I think he he likes to mix it up,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, when he's in fights, their brutal fights. He

473
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Speaker 1: saw his fights from ideas. Um. You know, obviously if

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Speaker 1: you go back to that, it's become cliche at this

475
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Speaker 1: point in the fight game. But the Marvin Hagler quote

476
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Speaker 1: right about how hard it is to get up and

477
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Speaker 1: run at five in the morning when you're sleeping in

478
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Speaker 1: silk pajamas. Has that solvd's Connor McGregor. Maybe this is

479
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: also a guy that you know was punching an old

480
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Speaker 1: man in an Irish pub, has some kind of practice

481
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. So he does like to fight,

482
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Speaker 1: He likes to mix it up, and I think his

483
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: his pride and his ego have been badly wounded. Now.

484
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Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing I'm looking for

485
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: a year. He even said that he's up this family

486
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Speaker 1: at home because he doesn't want to be softened any anymore. Yeah,

487
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: it almost feels I read that quote like he he's

488
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Speaker 1: away from his family, Like who are you Rocky Balboa?

489
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Speaker 1: Training for Ivan Drago? And that's the thing. Like, I

490
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: don't know, is he I haven't looked at the Vegas line.

491
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Gambling on M M A has not

492
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Speaker 1: been good to me in the past. I don't know.

493
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Speaker 1: Is McGregor a massive favorite in this one? Honors actually

494
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Speaker 1: a slight underdog I believe, I believe, And you're picking him,

495
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: well it's slight. I mean, you know, I think he's

496
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: like what plus one and something like that. But I

497
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Speaker 1: want to go back to Rocky. What was that Rocky three?

498
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Speaker 1: I want to say I think Rocky four. I think

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Speaker 1: it might have been four. Um, the one with Mr

500
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: t was was that was three? Three was three? So

501
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: Dragon was four? Yet clever Line what a beast and

502
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: that was three? Right? Yeah, come on, James, I know

503
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Speaker 1: my Rocky. But yeah, look it works for Rocky. You

504
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: have the family at home, you have to Adrian and

505
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: took care of business. But hopefully Connors, you know, Connor

506
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: doesn't have any family members. I hope it was annoying

507
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: his Adriaan and then he should be good. Um. But yeah,

508
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: I I do think there's something to to say for

509
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Speaker 1: you know, having the family. They're maybe getting a little

510
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: soft the money. Like you said, but will you tell me?

511
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: You seem very skeptical, dubious. I'm extremely dubious. So well,

512
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: first of all, I just looked it up on IMDb.

513
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Speaker 1: It was Rocky four where he takes down Ivan Drago

514
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: the European Now he has to go over to uh

515
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Russia and like the training Montag is pretty epic. I've

516
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: tried to show my kids and they're like, this is Lane.

517
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: But I think it's awesome. I don't know if I

518
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Speaker 1: would assume you think so as well. Right, Rocky Spot

519
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: is my favorite Rocky by far. Yeah, one of my

520
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Speaker 1: favorite fighting movies ever. But this is a little bit.

521
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Speaker 1: You know, you're not going into hostile territory. There's no

522
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Speaker 1: Cold War going on, and you've already made hundreds of

523
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars. You're not avenging the death of your friend,

524
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Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean that that movie is so good.

525
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Speaker 1: But Mike, I just I just really when you look

526
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Speaker 1: at the recent history of McGregor and his a EA

527
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: and like, you know, he's gotten married, he's got or yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: he has the family. Basically, I don't know if he's

529
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Speaker 1: officially married. But you know, I just what is this

530
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: guy fighting for? You say ego, but to me, he's

531
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: there's a little whiff of Michael Jordan with the Wizards,

532
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Like you retire twice, but you still have that hunger

533
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: to come back and you crush it, but you can't

534
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and you're old and you're still a

535
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: big draw as Michael Jordan was with the Wizards, and Mike,

536
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: are people not gonna show up if he loses his

537
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: fight to the next fight. No, right, they're gonna ride

538
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: with him. First off, I wanted to say, I'm so

539
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: good you brought up Michael Jordan with the Wizards because

540
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: this over time has degrade and it's all like Michael

541
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Jordan's being some bum on the Wizards. He wasn't. He

542
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: was still really good. He was that amazing, like chased

543
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: down the block from behind, he was dropping like twenty

544
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: something points of the game. He just wasn't. He just

545
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: wasn't incendiary anymore. He was just simply really good. So

546
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was on the double a White Sox.

547
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: That is true, but you're right, Look average twenty two

548
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: a game at age thirty eight and then twenty a game.

549
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I didn't shoot great from three and everything,

550
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: but he was good. He was really good. Umna, McGregor

551
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: can be good. It's to lose his fight, right, absolutely, poor,

552
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: Yes that's the poor is a great fighter. But McGregor

553
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: is only thirty two years old, so I mean, look,

554
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: one of those losses was to Floyd Mabel here on

555
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: boxing ring And going back to what you said about

556
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: paki O, Yes, Pacio has knocked anybody out in a

557
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: long time who has maybe other ever knocked out since

558
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: he was in the last fifteen years. I mean, Conor

559
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: McGregor is not a boxer. Yeah. Um, I guess, like,

560
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: what do you what's the vibe in Vegas right now?

561
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Is it like a bunch of Irish drunks are already

562
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: in town and it's chaos and crazy or is this

563
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: a little more muted given the COVID situation. I've been

564
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: hearing that the celebrity list is unlike any other I

565
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: think President Trump's coming in. I was like former President

566
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: Trump's coming in. Um and I'm always confused about that.

567
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's like these like lifetime Achievement awards, like

568
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: you when president see once and then you're always called president.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't like that we're called former President Trump. Um

570
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: and UM. I think you know everyone's coming in for

571
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: this fight, especially obviously Jason. This is coming off the

572
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Speaker 1: heels of COVID and probably kind of being in the

573
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Speaker 1: back door in the back of mirror back what is

574
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: the back of mirror? Review? Mirror? And I think it's

575
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: a great first right now for events. So you know,

576
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: yesterday was media Day, It's only Thursday. Now Thursday usually

577
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: when I see these fight weeks. It really picks up

578
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: on Friday with the Waynes, So I think tomorrow is

579
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: when we really see everything really pick up is on

580
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Friday with the Wayne. But I do expect the Irish

581
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Shrunkards to be in full force, the flags waving, and

582
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure plenty of fights in the stands on fine night.

583
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Speaker 1: Plenty of fights. Yes, Okay, so real quick, Let's say

584
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: McGregor wins, he's definitely going on to the next fight.

585
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: According to uh Dana Dana White, right, he's gonna fight

586
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: what's his name for the championship. He's gonna fight Charles

587
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: olive Ea for the championship. Yes, and that would be

588
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: the next fight. Likely connors that he wants it as well,

589
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: and it would make Connor a two times champ. I

590
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: believe it a lightweight, so it's a big deal for Connor.

591
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: And you know olive Ever has been on its terror

592
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: just knocked out Michael Chandler back in May, so we're

593
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: not entitled. The title vacated by compute the MAGA met off.

594
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: So Connor wins here and he's back in a huge fight.

595
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: More money to be made. You know, you can never

596
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: have enough money. That's the best of course. But but

597
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: hold on, you had said earlier that he was eyeing

598
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Speaker 1: a fight with Pacio. I mean, will he do Pakie

599
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: out before OLIVERA. I think that pack fight is dead

600
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: and gone for good, really do, I really do believe that.

601
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: And I say that because Manny pacyas headed to a

602
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: monstrous August twenty one fight with Errel Spence Jr. You know,

603
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: one of the five best fighters in the world in

604
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: boxing comp pounds unified walter weight champion, and the expectation

605
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: from everyone lives poken to in the industry is that

606
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Manny Pacio's final fight. He turns

607
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: forty three in December. He is gearing up for a

608
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: presidential run, believe it or not in the Philippines, it's

609
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. He's been publicly starring already with

610
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the president, Rodrigo Taratay, so he's getting ready for that.

611
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I think the elections is Mato, so I don't see

612
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: where Heed up time for another fight. Yeah, well, I

613
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: mean as net worth according to Wikipedia, which is always reliable,

614
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Manny pack he worth is three point two billion dollars,

615
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: which is kind of insane. But I guess maybe not

616
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: no chance, zero percent chance he has a three point

617
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: two billion dollars I mean like Michael Scott's favorite resource

618
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Wikipedia shout to the office. Um yeah, I mean like

619
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: Manny Pakia. Would that would make him one of the

620
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: richest men in the world. Uh, and that's obviously not

621
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Speaker 1: the case. I am curious though, Um, you know, do

622
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Speaker 1: you think McGregor has another boxing match and maybe against

623
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Speaker 1: Mayweather one of these um, not quite Jake Paul type fights,

624
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: because there's nothing on the line. It's just a payday

625
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: right for McGregor. I mean, yeah, I don't see why not.

626
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible, even especially McGregor loses, we

627
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: could get McGregor versus Logan Paul or Jake Paul, maybe

628
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: even in a real boxing match. I mean, I hate

629
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: to say this from a Gregor. Jake Paul would be

630
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: a monstrosity of an event. You know you would be there.

631
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: Well wait, why do you say you hate to say it,

632
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: It's just that it's not Well, I would, that's obviously

633
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: not world class fighting when you're talking about I mean,

634
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Speaker 1: I'm the old class and Jake Paul don't quite go

635
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Speaker 1: in the same sentence. But I do enjoy Jake Jake. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Do you if somebody says to you, what's the difference

637
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: between Jake Paul and Logan Paul, could you do you

638
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Speaker 1: know the difference. I'll be honest, I have no idea.

639
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Speaker 1: There's there's many differences. One is that Jake is younger

640
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Speaker 1: than Logan. Jake is a far better fighter than Logan. Uh,

641
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Speaker 1: from everything I've seen, which is, you know, limited sample size.

642
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: He's fighting real fights. He's fighting Tyrone Woodley next, and

643
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: other than not that're pretty similar. And You're not alone

644
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: in not knowing the difference. I think it's weird. Man.

645
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Speaker 1: We're we're a little older. I mean, I don't know

646
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Speaker 1: how old you are, Like, but I didn't grow up

647
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Speaker 1: of YouTube. Yeah, yeah, you're a little younger than I am.

648
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: So you probably had YouTube in high school? Right I did?

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Speaker 1: I I think I the first time I remember hearing

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Speaker 1: about YouTube. What wasn't high school for sure, starting It

651
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: wasn't even around when I was in college. So I did.

652
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, Logan Paul. They could deliver a door to

653
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Speaker 1: my pizza and I'd be like, wait, you kind of

654
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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about boxing. You know,

659
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Speaker 1: I like to say this is the summer of soccer,

660
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: because soccer is coming back, But when you look at

661
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: the McGregor fight and what was supposed to happen between uh,

662
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, Fury and Wilder, it's like, well, wait a second.

663
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: You know, fighting is really coming back strong, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I know that fight got postponed, but how much of

665
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: it has been bolstered by the YouTube guys getting in

666
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Speaker 1: the ring. It's hard to say if boxing has been bolstered,

667
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: if it's been hurt by this. I mean it's certainly

668
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: brought a lot of eyeballs, yes, that's for sure. But

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Speaker 1: I think the question Jason I always ask is are

670
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Speaker 1: these fans actually sticking around for what we said before

671
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: world class boxes? Are they sticking around for Packy Spence?

672
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: Are they sticking around for Wilder Fury? And we're talking

673
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Speaker 1: about big commercial fights here. Are they even watching those fights?

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Speaker 1: If they are, and Jake Paul and Logan Paul brought

675
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: them to those fights. Great, I love to hear it,

676
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: but it's hard for me to say, what do you mean?

677
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, I would say how many

678
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Speaker 1: people watched or you know, bought or downloaded or whatever

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul his last fight. Let's just say easy number.

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Speaker 1: The number I heard was around you know, maybe seven

681
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: fifty eight fifty on the pay per view buys. But

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Speaker 1: you have to remember the piracy is so out of

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Speaker 1: control now, millions more certainly watched. Fine, let's just go

684
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Speaker 1: with an easy two billion. Right. If you get one

685
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Speaker 1: percent of those fans to get excite in about boxing

686
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: and they are willing to tune in to these commercial

687
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: fights that are coming up, that's kind of a big win,

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Speaker 1: is it not? Just that's just one percent of the

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Speaker 1: two million people who streamed or watched or whatever. Sure,

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Speaker 1: if you give one percent, I guess that would be

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, you want that if you're the boxing industry, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and and and I guess Mike, I would add, like

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Speaker 1: all these fights did get pushed by social media, by ESPN, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, podcast radio teams, like, these fights were everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of what you think of the quality of them,

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00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: they were talked about everywhere. Um, I may it's one

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Speaker 1: percent low or do you think it's high. I think

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Speaker 1: one is fair. I think I think that sounds right

699
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, but I just again, these are

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Speaker 1: people that are very different from you, and I would

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Speaker 1: say that this generation is a very different generation. So

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Speaker 1: do they care about I always here and I don't

703
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: know what you here. I always hear that this generation

704
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Speaker 1: doesn't care as much about pro sports that we're seeing

705
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: now with overtime, right, the overtime high schooling that the

706
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: high school games are doing amazing ratings because high schoolers

707
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: want to see kids their own age playing. Me, when

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Speaker 1: I was a highest flight diding care about high school sports,

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch pro sports. I mean, I'm from

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: New York, Jason, I don't even watch college sports. Yeah,

711
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: you like the best of the best, right, I mean,

712
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: like you're right, this overtime and some of the new

713
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: stuff geared towards the young people's interesting. And I will

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Speaker 1: say it is a chore at times for me to

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Speaker 1: get my kids to watch a full sporting event, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a fourth quarter. Shore they'll watch it. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: these young people they just don't that don't have the

718
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: time span. Blame it on social media and all that,

719
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Speaker 1: but I I guess I would ask regarding Wilder Fury, Um,

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Speaker 1: this is a massive fight, right, This is one of

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Speaker 1: the more anticipated heavyweight fights in a while. Uh, third

722
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Speaker 1: battle between these two. Um, this, this COVID outbreak is

723
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of devastating, is it not? It is? It's devastating

724
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: for sure. The good news good news though, that the

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Speaker 1: fight is still going to happen. We'll just be at

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Speaker 1: a later date. Um fights has not been called out yet.

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00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I think it's probable the fight will be called off soon.

728
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Speaker 1: But um, look, it's a Fox ESPN joint pay per view,

729
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: very rare, but that's what needs to happen to make

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Speaker 1: the fight happen, considering all the politics and boxing. Now,

731
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, Patriale Spence is August one, so

732
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Fox is not going to put a pay per view

733
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Speaker 1: that close to their other big event. I think we're

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Speaker 1: looking at September then, which actually kind of works out

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Speaker 1: because Joshua fights us Anthony Joshua that is against Alexander

736
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Speaker 1: Music Heavyweight Championship. That's gonna be September in England's in

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Speaker 1: a massive fight. Then you can have Fury on schedule.

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Speaker 1: You know, Fury beach Walder again as expected, Fury Joshua

739
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: definitely happened December or January. Yeah, I guess the only

740
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Speaker 1: stinker in this for the boxing crowd is like, you

741
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: guys have that momentum, right Connor is I know UFC,

742
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: but he's fighting this weekend and then you were supposed

743
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Speaker 1: to have that in two weeks and it's like, oh, great, awesome,

744
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: let's get excited, and now it's pushed to September, in

745
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Speaker 1: the middle of college football NFL. I don't want to

746
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: say it's gonna get lost in the shuffle, but obviously

747
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: not ideal. Right, Um, I think there's I think as

748
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: plus as the minus is, uh, because the minuses, like

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Speaker 1: you just said, I think the positive is ESPN and

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Speaker 1: Fox can use NFL and college football fight. I mean,

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00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: we can get we can get a lot of promotion

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00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: on those platforms. So I think that's a big bonus there.

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00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: And we've seen how heavily Fox, um man, he's kind

754
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: of pushed these fights on their programming. That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Um all right, do you want to give an official

756
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: pick on that fight or is it pushed out to September?

757
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Are you not allowed to give picks. I know you

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Speaker 1: said you lean Connor um uh this weekend, but any

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Speaker 1: any lean on Fury Wilder. I'm gonna pick Connor McGregor

760
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Speaker 1: by knockout, and I'm gonna pick Tyson Fury by knockout.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, you know, I gotta say I was pretty

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Speaker 1: stuned when Wilder got his butt kicked by him a

763
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: while back. That that was one of like, you know again,

764
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Speaker 1: you see all the memes about like how shredded wild

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Theer is and Tyson Fury is kind of like a

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Speaker 1: chubby and hefty or whatever word you want to use

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00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: that aren't nice um. And then while they're got destroyed,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if there is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the not necessarily the money aspect of uh McGregor when

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Speaker 1: he got crushed by poorer. But was Wilder overlooking Fury

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: in that first meeting, in the first meeting, I think yes,

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Speaker 1: maybe in the first meeting. In the second meeting, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean Fury Fury was out boxing while they're pretty

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Speaker 1: much for the entire fight other than the two rounds

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00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: where he got dropped, So I don't think while there

776
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: was overlooking him then. But you could argue maybe that

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00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: that that the temple shot Fury landed in round two.

778
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: While there was never the same after that equilibrium punched.

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00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: You could argue that while There's certainly has found every

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00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: excuse under the sun while he lost rest, ranging from

781
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Speaker 1: being drugged by his own cornerman to Fury doctoring his gloves.

782
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Fury had an egg weight in his uh in his gloves. Um,

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Speaker 1: you name it. So for me, I'm thin Fury to

784
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: hearing all that. That's the big reason I'm kicking Fury again,

785
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: other than I think our furious superior boxing skills for me.

786
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: When you can't face the feat that says a lot

787
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Speaker 1: about your psyche and your character. Yeah, I'm a pcent

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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: with you, all right, he is Mike Coppinger. He basically

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Speaker 1: you're now covering. Would you say fighting is new at

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00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: ESPN because they used to break it? Okay, UFC and boxing.

791
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: Now it's like kind of a joint effort, right. I

792
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna be doing boxing, m m A.

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00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I do know that. I think there's gonna be more

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00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: synergy there. Yeah, but yeah, I'm not you know, I'm

795
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: very new to ESPN, so I don't know for sure,

796
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: But um, I think I think ESPN cares a lot

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00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: about combat sports, and I'm excited to see it. Yeah, certainly,

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Speaker 1: congratulations Mike, and uh, you know, obviously enjoy the fight

799
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Speaker 1: this weekend, stay out of fights in Vegas and now

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you to man. Thank you so much