WEBVTT - Tyrese Part 2 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:18.560 We are, we are the authority on all things are so. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:25.919 I like them girl, M. I like them girls. Was 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:31.480 a moment in time for both of us. M because 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.120 at the end, you tell him what you did. I 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:40.000 sang you sung background all know someone else's voices on 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.680 there too. I think. I'm not sure. I'm not. I 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.159 don't know. I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.680 never liked to, you know, jump in front of credit 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.240 because someone else, you know, the internet as a motheruckingybody nigga, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:59.080 I sang Harvey was it? Yeah, I don't know. But 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.120 the way reason like to work is He's like, listen, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:06.160 the demo is great. I'm just gonna take Jay's lead 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.720 out and keep everything else. I didn't know it was 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:15.240 an actual feature, which was great. Listen, listen. You know 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.080 when it would come on the radio and say can 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:23.960 I speak see baby girld on front? No. So. But 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:29.280 the the backstory to that record, though, is Tyrese Gibson 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:35.920 has the first ever Underdog record. Underdogs did not exist 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.679 before that record, not as a not as an actual 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.840 production and writing team. It did not exist before that. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.640 Uh this record. I'm sure you've heard the stories at 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.960 this point. If you have not This record was sold 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.320 three times. No, oh you didn't know that. No, okay, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.680 well we're gonna we're gonna get in twitch to day 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.440 then fuck it. Um it was sold three terms. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:04.680 you were the third buyer, so fucked up. No, it 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.360 wasn't that it was fucked up because the truth of 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.640 the matter is that I liked them girls. Really wasn't 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.880 a Tyree Skipton type of record. If you if you 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.200 go back into your your catalog, yeah, yeah, it pops 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.440 out as something different. And I don't even think when 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.160 I was initially writing, your name had even come up 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.079 for that type of record. The other artists that was 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.600 supposed to Well, come on this R and B money 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.480 pod authority, we're gonna get into it. I wrote that 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.640 record for Usher. You wrote I liked them girls for us, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.280 particularly for Usher. That's why specifically, no part I don't 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:44.680 know what's going yet. Did you know this story before 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.640 today that he wrote I liked them girls for Usher? Oh? Absolutely, okay, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.400 because you acting like you just hand it for the 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.799 first time, like me, this is sposed to do. No, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.160 we planned this way. You know. That was particular about 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:10.440 was particular about who's going to as a songwriter, really know, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.640 because as a songwriter, we have the who we're writing for. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.360 Why don't people say no cut? So I wrote the 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.120 record for Usher. That's why I say in the verse, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.320 I'm gonna drive to Porsche. So that r why you 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:27.120 say it now? Because a Porsche. Okay? So I was writing. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.720 You gave me Usher's lyrics, the car he was driving, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.200 the whole ship, the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, So the 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:38.320 disrespect for the Army Money podcast continues. I know, I 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.080 mean what I'm giving you. So you just told me 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.280 that Usher said he likes it. She likes it in 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.440 my way, so he doesn't finish the story, and and 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.640 I told you, okay, And then now you're saying it 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.840 wasn't a good look because your partner here, Jay Valentine, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.680 were brought a song. We didn't We didn't even know 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.480 each other yet. So he actually, don't throw him and 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.440 talking about your partners now we are, But wasn't good 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.160 look because she likes it my way. And then Jay 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.960 Valentine says, I liked them girls for the first four 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.680 years of your career. I was kicking your ass, that's 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:21.520 what he was. Listen, I was beat up. They still 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.719 get Let's be clear. Okay, that bag per Nite on 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.320 that Vegas residency must be serious. Let's stop recording. I 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.400 should stop recording. He had put out a record I 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.760 think it was called like Pop Your Pop your Collar 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.680 what he called a lot of backlash four and you know, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.919 the Bay area wasn't very happy. Some people weren't very 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.240 happy because he wasn't from the Bay and he's some 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.680 about pop in his collargue and the record just it 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.400 didn't really was that back then? Yeah, video, yeah, and 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.400 it did so from from what was told to us 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.320 was he's just not recording right now. So that's how 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.040 we're sitting. No, no, you still don't get it? Um 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.839 still somebody else? Yeah yeah yeah they so so y'all 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:06.320 land on it too. So Shaker Stewart calls me my partner, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.680 my player partner from the town. He calls me, said, Val, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.880 I need that record. I said, we record. You know what. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.279 I'm sorry, I'm like, we're just writing songs. I like 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.960 them girls, I said, I said it to y'all already. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.320 You know, I mean like us. You're not recording. He's saying, 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.440 not for USh, I said, what you mean? The song 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.520 was for us? I wrote it for ushers the Porsche. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:31.040 You know the Porsche. Right. He's like, nah, Sam Salter, Okay, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.760 Sam had the record, uh once my ship. No, No, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:43.520 that's that's uncle Sam say. I was okay. I'm like, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:48.040 I yes, that broke my heart when I found out. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.960 I'm like, I'm like, I rock with Sam Salter. All right, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.599 whatever I said. But let me call Damon Harvey because 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.120 this is also the first song like I said that 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.760 Damon and Harvey and myself have written because at this point, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.559 this is when Damon, in my mind, has stole Harvey 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.440 away from from Dark Child. And now you know what 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.800 I mean, like, because amen, and Harvey has stole No, no, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.839 Damon has stole Harvey from dark chowd. Because Harvey was 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.120 Dark Child's engineering pros. Yes, yes, yes, and he came 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.200 to play basketball with us one night, and then he 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.200 showed up by with them, and then he showed up 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.680 the next night by itself without them, with all the sounds. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.080 The sound. That's why you have That's why you have 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:31.119 a dark Child Underdog dark Child esque esque record. Record. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:37.080 Oh right for I like them girls, yeah, but the 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.479 whole So Sam comes to sing the record has it 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.480 all has the beat always been that, Well, it's a 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.080 sext song song saxt same song it was. It didn't 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.039 change when they went from Usher to Sam Musher. It 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.800 never went to Usher. It never went to Usher, right, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.799 it didn't go to him, but it went to their building. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.800 So now their buildings involved. And now he's how about 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.560 song deals and all this other shit and all that that, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.159 but you know, and now they're pivoting, trying to give 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.440 it to another another artist. Sam comes, he sings it, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.800 he does it shit, but La don't like it. And 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.120 La over the phone is like, who's singing the demo? 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.360 Harvey puts me on the phone with La. He's like, yo, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.400 what you're doing. I'm like, I'm a songwriter. I ain't 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.680 trying to He's like, all right, well you know if 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.040 you're singing, what's happening. I was like, no, that ain't 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.720 what I'm trying to do. And life Skan was in 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.560 back listen, leten listen. I've never went out. I've been 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:29.920 in this thing for a long time. You've known me 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.800 how many years? Twenty five? At this point, steal Me 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:46.840 not Humble doesn't think it the original ego. Man, no, no, no, 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.800 so we you know, I'm like, but he's like, I 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.760 want you to change a couple of things. At the end, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.600 La has some suggestions for the record of like the 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.000 pre like the pre out or whatever. I don't even 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.800 to hear the outro um. So we swapped some things out, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.800 rewrote a couple of little things, and then La was 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.800 just like, I'm cool off the record after like maybe 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.440 a couple of weeks or whatever. I'm not sure if 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.320 you remember this, though, Brandy comes to the studio and 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.600 she's like, I love this record, which makes sense she 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.160 you know, she's coming off of all Dark Shout records. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.600 It feels like Dark Shout with a different lyric and 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.320 melody to it because me and Lashan were just we 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.400 came from two very different backgrounds. So I'm writing at 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.000 a I'm writing more. I'm writing in a little more aggressive, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.040 edgier way because I'm not a church guy, right, So 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.840 our songs are different on the same type of music. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.920 So Brandy's like, can you change that I liked them boys? 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.280 Never heard it sounds it sounds it sounds that don't 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.040 like them boys. I was like, it's just a boy's mine. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.120 I just like it don't feel right to me, she'll 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.120 give me a copy of it. I'm like, Brandy, then, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.920 I'm not about to tell Brandy, no, I'm gonna give 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.320 you a copy of I don't. I don't want to 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.800 change the song. But I'm like, I'm not, I'll give 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.319 you a copy of it. From my knowledge, Brandy plays 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.959 that song for you in the car. That's how. That's 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.079 that's what. That's what was told to me. Because next 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.920 thing I know, Tyrese is at the studio, and Tyrese 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.480 loves this record. But Tyrese, obviously you know from the 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.840 artist standpoint, we all know this. We don't know where 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.200 those records have been and where they go. They liked it. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.839 They like the new girls. They're the new girl you 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.240 met and you ain't asked who she didn't been with yet, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.480 you just know she pretty wearing That's no, No, it's 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.920 not the jersey. It's the shorts. It's not the jersey, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.400 it's the job. I've always said any girl I date like, yo, man, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.280 could you just tell me if what you smash any 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.720 one of these NBA, NFL Naggers, because if I go 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.960 to the game, I don't want to be wearing this jersey. Yeah, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.719 you definitely can't wear any you know, like just let 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.800 me know, because you know, as long as I know, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.760 you an't touch as many as listen, I've only wrong 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.000 were throwback, so she knocked down doctor Jay. Shit, I 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.600 just got into as long as I know. I mean, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:58.000 if it's a player, I really like, you're gonna wear 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.520 the jersey anyway, I can't do it. I know you smash. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.079 The handshake is different. Everything about how we need the shortness. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:06.880 You know when you run into the nigga. You know 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:31.400 y'all used to no more like yeah, what up? Why mine? Now? Kid? Anyway, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.280 I've never cried when Genuine took a girl from me. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:42.600 Let's talk about what's it about? He was Genuine tank? 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:57.520 I need that die all right? Want your girl room 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:04.880 seven or eight? He wants, he wants to talk to you. Incredible. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.160 You just got chocolate up. Hold on the flip phone 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:26.240 at the time. Hello, I need that die. Oh how 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:30.760 you looking? You're talking? Yeah? She warn't Yeah, yeah the 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.200 one with the pink go ahead be Januine on Campra. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.600 Yeah No, I said I need that die. Um seven 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.320 or two dostement Okay, all right, all right, I let 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:53.560 you that flip phone. You should get dreshed. You gotta go. Nope, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.160 how did it go? It wasn't me, you too, okay. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.679 He was excited to give them. I felt good about it. Okay. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.920 So I was still on my job. So you got 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.719 off the phone, and then what happened action Genuine he 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.280 saw you and he want to talk to you. The 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:20.360 girls like this where you wearing that? He's uh, I 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.559 was about to get you this bussy. I really didn't 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:32.240 want to be He's something. When we take your's, you 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:37.000 donna get to be with Genuine. I'm gonna sprinkles. Huh oh, Yeah, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.760 we right up there together. Why she baby? She was? 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.640 I bagged your for man. I highlight y'all. I see 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.720 y'all later, man, fall in line, soldier, that's wild. These 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:54.120 ain't your spoils, m they're not because you were torn 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.480 with him. Carried the back residual, sing the backgrounds and 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.920 carried the back residual. Should do I had to wait 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.840 to see to see what was left on the plate. Yeah, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.200 whatever was left on the plate, then I could eat. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.520 That's what Biggie said in his rap. He said something. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.800 He said, they are all his holes. Go to my 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.679 flow some a little sea. He was rabbing, you know, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.520 the young Humbi you know, but all his they gotta 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.480 they gotta tap in. They gotta pass inspection. First hmm, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.480 first rid, first rider, refusals with that sample plate, first 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.920 ride of refusal. That's that's that's that's that's all. That's 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.559 a that's an ill scenario. I've never been in that 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.360 scenario before. No nah, And I've never asked nothing of 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.040 the little houmbies for what they work, neither though I 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.160 need either way. Either way one you no, no muscle, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.040 no no phone call with the Let me get that 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.640 she laying in the bed baby oil primed up, you 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.400 fresh out the shower and you're about to go knock 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.920 her head off, and genuine jump in from the iCloud 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:58.000 and say, let me get that cloud. I could always say, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.839 get that die, get that guy. Than what you're doing 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.640 with that guy, the question of what you doing with it? 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.240 What you're doing with that? You know, that's me that 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:21.880 it is kind of you, It is kind of more 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:28.280 you than Yeah, it is yo in your whole area 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.440 right now. You know what I'm saying, yea, And then 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.600 I have to beat the streets get back to anything 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:48.680 left you Wow you oh, that's crazy. I love it. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.520 You know what though, That's why y'all still close to 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.320 this day, because there's an understanding that was in place. No, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.280 I mean, I just as as a kid, I just 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.520 understood that there was a pecking order, you know what 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.200 I'm saying, and so you know, but there was a 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.040 packing order he established though for me he didn't have to. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.920 He never had to establish it. Got you, I knew 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.640 coming on the road, it's his show. Anything any benefits 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.640 of that, it's his. If I'm lucky enough to build 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.760 a relationship with him or lucky enough to carry the 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.840 bags playing that role heavy. Wow. I used to get 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.720 accused of doing too much, but he's doing too much anytimes. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:25.840 And you want to ask you to do something, you 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.280 just you just up and moving up. And you know, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.360 it's so crazy. That was Luk and Q with me. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.760 Luke and Q, you took their work, No, took him 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.520 on tour backgrounds, But did you take their work? No? 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.120 All right, man, I never did that to them. Maybe 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:50.160 I did, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boy came through. No, 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.120 I don't, I just remember, I remember. I don't know. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.920 There's one. Maybe it's a capitcorn thing, but we definitely 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.320 make people pay that dudes. And because at the end 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.320 of the day, people always when you get on with 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.120 somebody that's already on you automatically cutting the line off top. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.920 Doesn't matter what type of grunt and hustle you you 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.800 create for them while they're grinding then working with you 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.000 around you, it's still you're on already. It's not like 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.960 you can go back to you know, I'm in the hood. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.800 I just met you, So let me rewind the clock. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.160 Be back in the hood where a struggle and then 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.400 once you pay your dues and show me you down 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.000 for the cause, then you get to be on tour 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.360 buses and arenas. Doesn't work that way. So yeah, Luke 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:41.600 and Q tour with me, Kenyon tour with me. Isa. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.640 I had a lot of people for many many years touring, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.640 and I remember the running joke with Luke and Q 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.800 was me, you know, making them carry my bags and 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.800 do all that. Yeah, but see, genuine was more of 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.960 for me. It was an offering, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.840 For me, it was like this the guy, you know 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.520 what I'm saying, I'm like preventative before he left the bag. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.000 I left the bag when a hand the bag over 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.880 the counter for foot locker. Give me that. I got that. Yeah, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.520 but that's what I'm saying. That's what they did. But 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.200 like you, you're more of like, yeah, go get those No, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.480 that's not true. No, we've watched you. That's not true 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.040 at all. There is no says you was coming here to. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.920 I'm not listen. If that's the way you feel, that's 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.639 the way you feel. I can't stop talking about what 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.640 I feel. I'm talking about what I think. You've never 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.560 seen that ever in your life. Yeah, make sure y'all 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.000 get those bags. Get those bags in your trunk. I 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.240 am put them in the excursion. I'm militant, and then 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.920 go build my line. Put him in the put put 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.920 in the excursionfication. But are you condescending? I don't treat 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.480 nobody like slaves. I don't do none of that. That's 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.760 not true. I didn't say you treat people like slaves. 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.080 What I said was with genuine It was an offering 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:59.520 for me. With you, it's got a little requirement vibe 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.920 on it. It's definitely paying your dues and paying the 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.200 dudes with me does come with a particular pressure, you know. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.920 I like to put I tell people all the time, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.760 the crazy things I heard this saying before I embraced 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.920 the saying, they said, Man, if you can make it 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.720 through the level of grunt and grind and hustle and 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.920 the impulses of everything in and around my life, that 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.199 happened as fast as they do. If you can make 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.719 it and we become successful, you can make it anywhere. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:33.480 And the amount of directors, writers, producers, singers producers writers 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.800 meaning movie producers versus music producers, both all across the board. Man, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.960 I mean I would be here for the next you know, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:46.920 one hundred hours just mentioning every conversation, every moment, somebody 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:51.480 some way who ended up, you know, being connected with me, 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.560 and we ended up figuring out how we can dance 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.840 and take the journey. And they'll say, man, for those 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.000 four years, of those five years that I work with 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.080 you without me even knowing, it prepared me for all 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.880 that I ended up doing. So Um, yeah, it's it's 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:14.760 definitely an aggressive environment that I purposely create. Um, there 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.080 is no relaxing lacks of days ago. You know, you 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.320 got it, So I got it. No, this is mine 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.840 and when you get here, you gotta work, You gotta grind, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.399 you gotta hustle. You gotta really get in there and 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.920 do the work, because ultimately, I can't go back and 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.280 say I'm in a two door hunt their court. No 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.040 disrespecting hunter the court. But that's not when I drive. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:45.240 When I drive. How are you gonna act like that? 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.320 Your rocket ship? You don't act like that. How are 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.479 you gonna act like that? Hey, Eric Dawkins, Eric Dawkins, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.680 all the background again. I remember you took me I 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.639 can't to your show. I came to your show at 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:07.080 the House of Blues and you introduced me to Damon Thomas. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.600 I don't remember that. That's wild and that started my 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.080 underdog Jackie. See, so I'm gonna do something and I'm 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.240 gonna connect something that you wouldn't do. No, no, no, no, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.560 you be quiet, said no, no, no. You be quiet 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.560 when you so No, you are when you indirectly. Indirectly, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.480 you are the reason that R and B money exists. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:32.040 You know why because you introducing Tank to Damon Thomas 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.240 and Tank having me come by the studio to meet 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.560 I mean Damon Thomas having me come by the students 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:42.440 to meet Tank starts off our friendship, which ultimately turns 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.600 into our brotherhood and our partnership in this music thing. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.639 So you want to kick me out of the I 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.440 didn't help you read for the movie. I ain't a 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.320 part of that. It's fine. I'm gonna give you your credit, though, 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.680 of your indirect connections to this whole R and B 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.840 money than because that's what we do around here. We 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.600 get flowers, we get flowers, and I appreciate you for that, 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.680 for introducing him to dam It, which you don't remember 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.719 because you've just done so many amazing teams. You love him, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:21.320 blah blah blah. I'm gonna give your credit because credit 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.639 is due, even if you didn't know what you are, 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:35.160 like Anti, I didn't even know it. I was gonna say, 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.879 I received that, didn't know that happened, But I received it. 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:44.360 And I was saying again, when I think about hit Boy, 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.359 they were to hit boys when I discover them, Change Leroy, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.320 the whole fifteen Hunty Click. I had them all on 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.560 my second floor in the Edmunds building. Sees one astrocity, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.040 ken Yon I believe and who I believe in. And 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.240 when I see hit Boy out here running around with nas, 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.280 when I met him, we tried to well. They were 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:12.320 with the new underdogs because it was a duo and 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.040 they were doing nothing but R and B. He did 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:15.840 nothing that I had to do with hip hop. So 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.560 James and hip boy were together brow I remebody, all 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.280 all of them. Let me tell you a story about 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.600 James font Leroy so proud of this. So at a 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.560 certain point, I was trying to sign Glenn Lewis to 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.439 my company at the time, Headquarter Entertainment. He was always 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.480 on the second floor. I brought him out and Glenn 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:44.080 Lewis and James font Leroy were writing all of these 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:51.560 dope ass songs. Yeah, yeah, good, I needed st Yeah 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.680 I know that song still got into my phone. So 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.880 they were doing all of these records, the whole fit 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.920 teen Hunted, faunt Leroy, hit Boys, see Monstrosity. Who I'll 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:09.960 say it today. Everybody who come from my original crew 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:14.840 of producers and writers, everybody knows Siege is the problem 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.920 waiting to happen. Most people would say, let's just hope 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.160 that nigga never get on because it's gonna be lights 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.520 out for a whole lot of people. It's always been 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:29.040 that way. And I'm just going on record because Beef 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:38.119 beat Too, I set sees monstrosity is a savage is 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.280 and that's just it. So he's wait. He's been patiently 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.439 waiting on his time. But when it happens, nobody who 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.080 knows Siege is going to be surprised. He's a fucking monster. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.840 So James and the whole team is writing all these 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:57.159 songs for Glenn Lewis, Damon and Harvey, who was on 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.960 the third floor at the Edmonds building. They called my 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:05.600 phone and they say, yo, Tie, you got a kid 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:10.680 down there named James. Yeah, yeah, James Fontleroy, Yeah, man, 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.000 we just heard a couple of songs. He did, and 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.680 I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.280 got the phone call in my office at the front 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:22.240 desk by the elevator, and James font Leroy with Glenn 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.840 Lewis and Rands and Mars and all that was in 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.840 the studio. So I walked in and I had Harvey 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:35.000 Mason on speaker phone and I said tell him, I said, 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:40.119 and I said, it's Harvey Mason and James Win, you know, 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.760 And then I was like, Harvey, what did you just say? 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.680 He said, Hey, man, I was just calling you Reese 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.960 to ask you would you be okay with us working 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.800 with James font Leroy because we heard a couple of 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.239 his melodies and his lyrics and we think he's incredible. Bro, 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.680 James James started crying and then he grabbed my hand 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.600 while I was still on the phone with Harvey. I 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.439 never forget. I don't remember a lot, but I remember 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.160 this because it was so beautiful. He grabbed my hand. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.560 He said, Bro, that's my chest, that's my chests. Harvey 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.960 was still on my home. I mean his heart was 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.520 beaten like crazy, and and then he went upstairs to 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.879 the third floor and started working with the Underdogs. And 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:28.320 obviously the rest is history. Hissed when I first this 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:32.480 is what's crazy. For some reason, I wasn't really focused 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:38.080