Speaker 1: We are, we are the authority on all things are so.
Speaker 1: I like them girl, M. I like them girls. Was
Speaker 1: a moment in time for both of us. M because
Speaker 1: at the end, you tell him what you did. I
Speaker 1: sang you sung background all know someone else's voices on
Speaker 1: there too. I think. I'm not sure. I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: never liked to, you know, jump in front of credit
Speaker 1: because someone else, you know, the internet as a motheruckingybody nigga,
Speaker 1: I sang Harvey was it? Yeah, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: the way reason like to work is He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: the demo is great. I'm just gonna take Jay's lead
Speaker 1: out and keep everything else. I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: an actual feature, which was great. Listen, listen. You know
Speaker 1: when it would come on the radio and say can
Speaker 1: I speak see baby girld on front? No. So. But
Speaker 1: the the backstory to that record, though, is Tyrese Gibson
Speaker 1: has the first ever Underdog record. Underdogs did not exist
Speaker 1: before that record, not as a not as an actual
Speaker 1: production and writing team. It did not exist before that.
Speaker 1: Uh this record. I'm sure you've heard the stories at
Speaker 1: this point. If you have not This record was sold
Speaker 1: three times. No, oh you didn't know that. No, okay,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna we're gonna get in twitch to day
Speaker 1: then fuck it. Um it was sold three terms. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were the third buyer, so fucked up. No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that it was fucked up because the truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is that I liked them girls. Really wasn't
Speaker 1: a Tyree Skipton type of record. If you if you
Speaker 1: go back into your your catalog, yeah, yeah, it pops
Speaker 1: out as something different. And I don't even think when
Speaker 1: I was initially writing, your name had even come up
Speaker 1: for that type of record. The other artists that was
Speaker 1: supposed to Well, come on this R and B money
Speaker 1: pod authority, we're gonna get into it. I wrote that
Speaker 1: record for Usher. You wrote I liked them girls for us,
Speaker 1: particularly for Usher. That's why specifically, no part I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going yet. Did you know this story before
Speaker 1: today that he wrote I liked them girls for Usher? Oh? Absolutely, okay,
Speaker 1: because you acting like you just hand it for the
Speaker 1: first time, like me, this is sposed to do. No,
Speaker 1: we planned this way. You know. That was particular about
Speaker 1: was particular about who's going to as a songwriter, really know,
Speaker 1: because as a songwriter, we have the who we're writing for.
Speaker 1: Why don't people say no cut? So I wrote the
Speaker 1: record for Usher. That's why I say in the verse,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive to Porsche. So that r why you
Speaker 1: say it now? Because a Porsche. Okay? So I was writing.
Speaker 1: You gave me Usher's lyrics, the car he was driving,
Speaker 1: the whole ship, the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, So the
Speaker 1: disrespect for the Army Money podcast continues. I know, I
Speaker 1: mean what I'm giving you. So you just told me
Speaker 1: that Usher said he likes it. She likes it in
Speaker 1: my way, so he doesn't finish the story, and and
Speaker 1: I told you, okay, And then now you're saying it
Speaker 1: wasn't a good look because your partner here, Jay Valentine,
Speaker 1: were brought a song. We didn't We didn't even know
Speaker 1: each other yet. So he actually, don't throw him and
Speaker 1: talking about your partners now we are, But wasn't good
Speaker 1: look because she likes it my way. And then Jay
Speaker 1: Valentine says, I liked them girls for the first four
Speaker 1: years of your career. I was kicking your ass, that's
Speaker 1: what he was. Listen, I was beat up. They still
Speaker 1: get Let's be clear. Okay, that bag per Nite on
Speaker 1: that Vegas residency must be serious. Let's stop recording. I
Speaker 1: should stop recording. He had put out a record I
Speaker 1: think it was called like Pop Your Pop your Collar
Speaker 1: what he called a lot of backlash four and you know,
Speaker 1: the Bay area wasn't very happy. Some people weren't very
Speaker 1: happy because he wasn't from the Bay and he's some
Speaker 1: about pop in his collargue and the record just it
Speaker 1: didn't really was that back then? Yeah, video, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it did so from from what was told to us
Speaker 1: was he's just not recording right now. So that's how
Speaker 1: we're sitting. No, no, you still don't get it? Um
Speaker 1: still somebody else? Yeah yeah yeah they so so y'all
Speaker 1: land on it too. So Shaker Stewart calls me my partner,
Speaker 1: my player partner from the town. He calls me, said, Val,
Speaker 1: I need that record. I said, we record. You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm like, we're just writing songs. I like
Speaker 1: them girls, I said, I said it to y'all already.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean like us. You're not recording. He's saying,
Speaker 1: not for USh, I said, what you mean? The song
Speaker 1: was for us? I wrote it for ushers the Porsche.
Speaker 1: You know the Porsche. Right. He's like, nah, Sam Salter, Okay,
Speaker 1: Sam had the record, uh once my ship. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's uncle Sam say. I was okay. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I yes, that broke my heart when I found out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I rock with Sam Salter. All right,
Speaker 1: whatever I said. But let me call Damon Harvey because
Speaker 1: this is also the first song like I said that
Speaker 1: Damon and Harvey and myself have written because at this point,
Speaker 1: this is when Damon, in my mind, has stole Harvey
Speaker 1: away from from Dark Child. And now you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like, because amen, and Harvey has stole No, no,
Speaker 1: Damon has stole Harvey from dark chowd. Because Harvey was
Speaker 1: Dark Child's engineering pros. Yes, yes, yes, and he came
Speaker 1: to play basketball with us one night, and then he
Speaker 1: showed up by with them, and then he showed up
Speaker 1: the next night by itself without them, with all the sounds.
Speaker 1: The sound. That's why you have That's why you have
Speaker 1: a dark Child Underdog dark Child esque esque record. Record.
Speaker 1: Oh right for I like them girls, yeah, but the
Speaker 1: whole So Sam comes to sing the record has it
Speaker 1: all has the beat always been that, Well, it's a
Speaker 1: sext song song saxt same song it was. It didn't
Speaker 1: change when they went from Usher to Sam Musher. It
Speaker 1: never went to Usher. It never went to Usher, right,
Speaker 1: it didn't go to him, but it went to their building.
Speaker 1: So now their buildings involved. And now he's how about
Speaker 1: song deals and all this other shit and all that that,
Speaker 1: but you know, and now they're pivoting, trying to give
Speaker 1: it to another another artist. Sam comes, he sings it,
Speaker 1: he does it shit, but La don't like it. And
Speaker 1: La over the phone is like, who's singing the demo?
Speaker 1: Harvey puts me on the phone with La. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm like, I'm a songwriter. I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to He's like, all right, well you know if
Speaker 1: you're singing, what's happening. I was like, no, that ain't
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. And life Skan was in
Speaker 1: back listen, leten listen. I've never went out. I've been
Speaker 1: in this thing for a long time. You've known me
Speaker 1: how many years? Twenty five? At this point, steal Me
Speaker 1: not Humble doesn't think it the original ego. Man, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: so we you know, I'm like, but he's like, I
Speaker 1: want you to change a couple of things. At the end,
Speaker 1: La has some suggestions for the record of like the
Speaker 1: pre like the pre out or whatever. I don't even
Speaker 1: to hear the outro um. So we swapped some things out,
Speaker 1: rewrote a couple of little things, and then La was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm cool off the record after like maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks or whatever. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: you remember this, though, Brandy comes to the studio and
Speaker 1: she's like, I love this record, which makes sense she
Speaker 1: you know, she's coming off of all Dark Shout records.
Speaker 1: It feels like Dark Shout with a different lyric and
Speaker 1: melody to it because me and Lashan were just we
Speaker 1: came from two very different backgrounds. So I'm writing at
Speaker 1: a I'm writing more. I'm writing in a little more aggressive,
Speaker 1: edgier way because I'm not a church guy, right, So
Speaker 1: our songs are different on the same type of music.
Speaker 1: So Brandy's like, can you change that I liked them boys?
Speaker 1: Never heard it sounds it sounds it sounds that don't
Speaker 1: like them boys. I was like, it's just a boy's mine.
Speaker 1: I just like it don't feel right to me, she'll
Speaker 1: give me a copy of it. I'm like, Brandy, then,
Speaker 1: I'm not about to tell Brandy, no, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a copy of I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: change the song. But I'm like, I'm not, I'll give
Speaker 1: you a copy of it. From my knowledge, Brandy plays
Speaker 1: that song for you in the car. That's how. That's
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what was told to me. Because next
Speaker 1: thing I know, Tyrese is at the studio, and Tyrese
Speaker 1: loves this record. But Tyrese, obviously you know from the
Speaker 1: artist standpoint, we all know this. We don't know where
Speaker 1: those records have been and where they go. They liked it.
Speaker 1: They like the new girls. They're the new girl you
Speaker 1: met and you ain't asked who she didn't been with yet,
Speaker 1: you just know she pretty wearing That's no, No, it's
Speaker 1: not the jersey. It's the shorts. It's not the jersey,
Speaker 1: it's the job. I've always said any girl I date like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: could you just tell me if what you smash any
Speaker 1: one of these NBA, NFL Naggers, because if I go
Speaker 1: to the game, I don't want to be wearing this jersey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you definitely can't wear any you know, like just let
Speaker 1: me know, because you know, as long as I know,
Speaker 1: you an't touch as many as listen, I've only wrong
Speaker 1: were throwback, so she knocked down doctor Jay. Shit, I
Speaker 1: just got into as long as I know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it's a player, I really like, you're gonna wear
Speaker 1: the jersey anyway, I can't do it. I know you smash.
Speaker 1: The handshake is different. Everything about how we need the shortness.
Speaker 1: You know when you run into the nigga. You know
Speaker 1: y'all used to no more like yeah, what up? Why mine? Now? Kid? Anyway,
Speaker 1: I've never cried when Genuine took a girl from me.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's it about? He was Genuine tank?
Speaker 1: I need that die all right? Want your girl room
Speaker 1: seven or eight? He wants, he wants to talk to you. Incredible.
Speaker 1: You just got chocolate up. Hold on the flip phone
Speaker 1: at the time. Hello, I need that die. Oh how
Speaker 1: you looking? You're talking? Yeah? She warn't Yeah, yeah the
Speaker 1: one with the pink go ahead be Januine on Campra.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I said I need that die. Um seven
Speaker 1: or two dostement Okay, all right, all right, I let
Speaker 1: you that flip phone. You should get dreshed. You gotta go. Nope,
Speaker 1: how did it go? It wasn't me, you too, okay.
Speaker 1: He was excited to give them. I felt good about it. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I was still on my job. So you got
Speaker 1: off the phone, and then what happened action Genuine he
Speaker 1: saw you and he want to talk to you. The
Speaker 1: girls like this where you wearing that? He's uh, I
Speaker 1: was about to get you this bussy. I really didn't
Speaker 1: want to be He's something. When we take your's, you
Speaker 1: donna get to be with Genuine. I'm gonna sprinkles. Huh oh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we right up there together. Why she baby? She was?
Speaker 1: I bagged your for man. I highlight y'all. I see
Speaker 1: y'all later, man, fall in line, soldier, that's wild. These
Speaker 1: ain't your spoils, m they're not because you were torn
Speaker 1: with him. Carried the back residual, sing the backgrounds and
Speaker 1: carried the back residual. Should do I had to wait
Speaker 1: to see to see what was left on the plate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever was left on the plate, then I could eat.
Speaker 1: That's what Biggie said in his rap. He said something.
Speaker 1: He said, they are all his holes. Go to my
Speaker 1: flow some a little sea. He was rabbing, you know,
Speaker 1: the young Humbi you know, but all his they gotta
Speaker 1: they gotta tap in. They gotta pass inspection. First hmm,
Speaker 1: first rid, first rider, refusals with that sample plate, first
Speaker 1: ride of refusal. That's that's that's that's that's all. That's
Speaker 1: a that's an ill scenario. I've never been in that
Speaker 1: scenario before. No nah, And I've never asked nothing of
Speaker 1: the little houmbies for what they work, neither though I
Speaker 1: need either way. Either way one you no, no muscle,
Speaker 1: no no phone call with the Let me get that
Speaker 1: she laying in the bed baby oil primed up, you
Speaker 1: fresh out the shower and you're about to go knock
Speaker 1: her head off, and genuine jump in from the iCloud
Speaker 1: and say, let me get that cloud. I could always say,
Speaker 1: get that die, get that guy. Than what you're doing
Speaker 1: with that guy, the question of what you doing with it?
Speaker 1: What you're doing with that? You know, that's me that
Speaker 1: it is kind of you, It is kind of more
Speaker 1: you than Yeah, it is yo in your whole area
Speaker 1: right now. You know what I'm saying, yea, And then
Speaker 1: I have to beat the streets get back to anything
Speaker 1: left you Wow you oh, that's crazy. I love it.
Speaker 1: You know what though, That's why y'all still close to
Speaker 1: this day, because there's an understanding that was in place. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just as as a kid, I just
Speaker 1: understood that there was a pecking order, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so you know, but there was a
Speaker 1: packing order he established though for me he didn't have to.
Speaker 1: He never had to establish it. Got you, I knew
Speaker 1: coming on the road, it's his show. Anything any benefits
Speaker 1: of that, it's his. If I'm lucky enough to build
Speaker 1: a relationship with him or lucky enough to carry the
Speaker 1: bags playing that role heavy. Wow. I used to get
Speaker 1: accused of doing too much, but he's doing too much anytimes.
Speaker 1: And you want to ask you to do something, you
Speaker 1: just you just up and moving up. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. That was Luk and Q with me.
Speaker 1: Luke and Q, you took their work, No, took him
Speaker 1: on tour backgrounds, But did you take their work? No?
Speaker 1: All right, man, I never did that to them. Maybe
Speaker 1: I did, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boy came through. No,
Speaker 1: I don't, I just remember, I remember. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's one. Maybe it's a capitcorn thing, but we definitely
Speaker 1: make people pay that dudes. And because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, people always when you get on with
Speaker 1: somebody that's already on you automatically cutting the line off top.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what type of grunt and hustle you you
Speaker 1: create for them while they're grinding then working with you
Speaker 1: around you, it's still you're on already. It's not like
Speaker 1: you can go back to you know, I'm in the hood.
Speaker 1: I just met you, So let me rewind the clock.
Speaker 1: Be back in the hood where a struggle and then
Speaker 1: once you pay your dues and show me you down
Speaker 1: for the cause, then you get to be on tour
Speaker 1: buses and arenas. Doesn't work that way. So yeah, Luke
Speaker 1: and Q tour with me, Kenyon tour with me. Isa.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people for many many years touring,
Speaker 1: and I remember the running joke with Luke and Q
Speaker 1: was me, you know, making them carry my bags and
Speaker 1: do all that. Yeah, but see, genuine was more of
Speaker 1: for me. It was an offering, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: For me, it was like this the guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm like preventative before he left the bag.
Speaker 1: I left the bag when a hand the bag over
Speaker 1: the counter for foot locker. Give me that. I got that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. That's what they did. But
Speaker 1: like you, you're more of like, yeah, go get those No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. No, we've watched you. That's not true
Speaker 1: at all. There is no says you was coming here to.
Speaker 1: I'm not listen. If that's the way you feel, that's
Speaker 1: the way you feel. I can't stop talking about what
Speaker 1: I feel. I'm talking about what I think. You've never
Speaker 1: seen that ever in your life. Yeah, make sure y'all
Speaker 1: get those bags. Get those bags in your trunk. I
Speaker 1: am put them in the excursion. I'm militant, and then
Speaker 1: go build my line. Put him in the put put
Speaker 1: in the excursionfication. But are you condescending? I don't treat
Speaker 1: nobody like slaves. I don't do none of that. That's
Speaker 1: not true. I didn't say you treat people like slaves.
Speaker 1: What I said was with genuine It was an offering
Speaker 1: for me. With you, it's got a little requirement vibe
Speaker 1: on it. It's definitely paying your dues and paying the
Speaker 1: dudes with me does come with a particular pressure, you know.
Speaker 1: I like to put I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: the crazy things I heard this saying before I embraced
Speaker 1: the saying, they said, Man, if you can make it
Speaker 1: through the level of grunt and grind and hustle and
Speaker 1: the impulses of everything in and around my life, that
Speaker 1: happened as fast as they do. If you can make
Speaker 1: it and we become successful, you can make it anywhere.
Speaker 1: And the amount of directors, writers, producers, singers producers writers
Speaker 1: meaning movie producers versus music producers, both all across the board. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean I would be here for the next you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred hours just mentioning every conversation, every moment, somebody
Speaker 1: some way who ended up, you know, being connected with me,
Speaker 1: and we ended up figuring out how we can dance
Speaker 1: and take the journey. And they'll say, man, for those
Speaker 1: four years, of those five years that I work with
Speaker 1: you without me even knowing, it prepared me for all
Speaker 1: that I ended up doing. So Um, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely an aggressive environment that I purposely create. Um, there
Speaker 1: is no relaxing lacks of days ago. You know, you
Speaker 1: got it, So I got it. No, this is mine
Speaker 1: and when you get here, you gotta work, You gotta grind,
Speaker 1: you gotta hustle. You gotta really get in there and
Speaker 1: do the work, because ultimately, I can't go back and
Speaker 1: say I'm in a two door hunt their court. No
Speaker 1: disrespecting hunter the court. But that's not when I drive.
Speaker 1: When I drive. How are you gonna act like that?
Speaker 1: Your rocket ship? You don't act like that. How are
Speaker 1: you gonna act like that? Hey, Eric Dawkins, Eric Dawkins,
Speaker 1: all the background again. I remember you took me I
Speaker 1: can't to your show. I came to your show at
Speaker 1: the House of Blues and you introduced me to Damon Thomas.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. That's wild and that started my
Speaker 1: underdog Jackie. See, so I'm gonna do something and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna connect something that you wouldn't do. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you be quiet, said no, no, no. You be quiet
Speaker 1: when you so No, you are when you indirectly. Indirectly,
Speaker 1: you are the reason that R and B money exists.
Speaker 1: You know why because you introducing Tank to Damon Thomas
Speaker 1: and Tank having me come by the studio to meet
Speaker 1: I mean Damon Thomas having me come by the students
Speaker 1: to meet Tank starts off our friendship, which ultimately turns
Speaker 1: into our brotherhood and our partnership in this music thing.
Speaker 1: So you want to kick me out of the I
Speaker 1: didn't help you read for the movie. I ain't a
Speaker 1: part of that. It's fine. I'm gonna give you your credit, though,
Speaker 1: of your indirect connections to this whole R and B
Speaker 1: money than because that's what we do around here. We
Speaker 1: get flowers, we get flowers, and I appreciate you for that,
Speaker 1: for introducing him to dam It, which you don't remember
Speaker 1: because you've just done so many amazing teams. You love him,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I'm gonna give your credit because credit
Speaker 1: is due, even if you didn't know what you are,
Speaker 1: like Anti, I didn't even know it. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I received that, didn't know that happened, But I received it.
Speaker 1: And I was saying again, when I think about hit Boy,
Speaker 1: they were to hit boys when I discover them, Change Leroy,
Speaker 1: the whole fifteen Hunty Click. I had them all on
Speaker 1: my second floor in the Edmunds building. Sees one astrocity,
Speaker 1: ken Yon I believe and who I believe in. And
Speaker 1: when I see hit Boy out here running around with nas,
Speaker 1: when I met him, we tried to well. They were
Speaker 1: with the new underdogs because it was a duo and
Speaker 1: they were doing nothing but R and B. He did
Speaker 1: nothing that I had to do with hip hop. So
Speaker 1: James and hip boy were together brow I remebody, all
Speaker 1: all of them. Let me tell you a story about
Speaker 1: James font Leroy so proud of this. So at a
Speaker 1: certain point, I was trying to sign Glenn Lewis to
Speaker 1: my company at the time, Headquarter Entertainment. He was always
Speaker 1: on the second floor. I brought him out and Glenn
Speaker 1: Lewis and James font Leroy were writing all of these
Speaker 1: dope ass songs. Yeah, yeah, good, I needed st Yeah
Speaker 1: I know that song still got into my phone. So
Speaker 1: they were doing all of these records, the whole fit
Speaker 1: teen Hunted, faunt Leroy, hit Boys, see Monstrosity. Who I'll
Speaker 1: say it today. Everybody who come from my original crew
Speaker 1: of producers and writers, everybody knows Siege is the problem
Speaker 1: waiting to happen. Most people would say, let's just hope
Speaker 1: that nigga never get on because it's gonna be lights
Speaker 1: out for a whole lot of people. It's always been
Speaker 1: that way. And I'm just going on record because Beef
Speaker 1: beat Too, I set sees monstrosity is a savage is
Speaker 1: and that's just it. So he's wait. He's been patiently
Speaker 1: waiting on his time. But when it happens, nobody who
Speaker 1: knows Siege is going to be surprised. He's a fucking monster.
Speaker 1: So James and the whole team is writing all these
Speaker 1: songs for Glenn Lewis, Damon and Harvey, who was on
Speaker 1: the third floor at the Edmonds building. They called my
Speaker 1: phone and they say, yo, Tie, you got a kid
Speaker 1: down there named James. Yeah, yeah, James Fontleroy, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we just heard a couple of songs. He did, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 1: got the phone call in my office at the front
Speaker 1: desk by the elevator, and James font Leroy with Glenn
Speaker 1: Lewis and Rands and Mars and all that was in
Speaker 1: the studio. So I walked in and I had Harvey
Speaker 1: Mason on speaker phone and I said tell him, I said,
Speaker 1: and I said, it's Harvey Mason and James Win, you know,
Speaker 1: And then I was like, Harvey, what did you just say?
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, man, I was just calling you Reese
Speaker 1: to ask you would you be okay with us working
Speaker 1: with James font Leroy because we heard a couple of
Speaker 1: his melodies and his lyrics and we think he's incredible. Bro,
Speaker 1: James James started crying and then he grabbed my hand
Speaker 1: while I was still on the phone with Harvey. I
Speaker 1: never forget. I don't remember a lot, but I remember
Speaker 1: this because it was so beautiful. He grabbed my hand.
Speaker 1: He said, Bro, that's my chest, that's my chests. Harvey
Speaker 1: was still on my home. I mean his heart was
Speaker 1: beaten like crazy, and and then he went upstairs to
Speaker 1: the third floor and started working with the Underdogs. And
Speaker 1: obviously the rest is history. Hissed when I first this
Speaker 1: is what's crazy. For some reason, I wasn't really focused
Speaker 1: on singers and songwriters on that level compared to just
Speaker 1: producing and producers. So my R and B hip hop, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: my hip hop. They were called the Frontline Boys. James Rands, Mars, Siege,
Speaker 1: everybody I had. It was a bunch of other folks.
Speaker 1: I can't even think of their name, but they were
Speaker 1: all called the front Line Boys. That's why I says,
Speaker 1: when you got off the elevator said welcome to Headquarter Entertainment,
Speaker 1: home of the front Line Boys. So even though they
Speaker 1: had their individual clicks fifteen hundred, they were still fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: They were all under the frontline boys umbrella, all of them,
Speaker 1: and so I just never I'll never forget. Man. When
Speaker 1: I first mate met James font Leroy, I gotta tell
Speaker 1: this story. It wasn't the day that we got the
Speaker 1: call James font Leroy. I somehow got a hold of
Speaker 1: a CD and I was just like, Yo, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: What is going on? Because I've always had ears, you know,
Speaker 1: rather I dropped albums every year or not, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I've always had ears for production, for songwriters, for rappers, shits.
Speaker 1: I got ears, you know, It's my gift. I said, man, God,
Speaker 1: if you don't do anything, don't ever take away my
Speaker 1: ears to hear music when it's magic. So never heard
Speaker 1: of James in my life. I had James to meet
Speaker 1: me at a restaurant that closed down now, which is
Speaker 1: called Cape mattter leanis Beverly Hills. I was there with
Speaker 1: my agent and I went outside and James font Leroy
Speaker 1: was there. I pulled him in my car. I listened
Speaker 1: to like ten other records that he had, and I said, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're fucking incredible. What are you doing? He said, bro.
Speaker 1: You know, he's very sarcast He's like, hey man, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm just out here, you know, doing what I do,
Speaker 1: and you know whatever his words, it was very like,
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. I know I'm fucked up, but I
Speaker 1: have I'm not gonna give you no energy about whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go back to whatever hood I live in,
Speaker 1: wherever my bank account is north of or south of,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you none of that. I
Speaker 1: believe in myself. I'm talented, and I belong. I belong
Speaker 1: here type of energy he had right, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1: So then I was like, man, you're super dope. Bro.
Speaker 1: I fucking love y'all. Believe in you, man, like you're incredible.
Speaker 1: And and then I went back to my car, right
Speaker 1: and then I got a call, Hey man, my car
Speaker 1: just broke down and I need some gas money. So
Speaker 1: I came back through the alley and I did whatever
Speaker 1: it took to get him to the house. When I
Speaker 1: think about all of the people that I loved, believed
Speaker 1: in and created a sanctuary, a creative, safe sanctuary, and
Speaker 1: I look at these guys have won Grammys before me.
Speaker 1: You know, I know James wrote multiple full albums for
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake, you name it. Now, these guys were not
Speaker 1: These guys were not signing, and I was not a businessman.
Speaker 1: I had Headquarter Entertainment and the frontline boys, but I
Speaker 1: didn't have none of my frontline boys signed to me,
Speaker 1: which I kicked myself in the ass to this day.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that wasn't my agenda. I
Speaker 1: wasn't on that. You know, I'm gonna sign everybody, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take your publishing. I wasn't on none of that.
Speaker 1: It was just literally like the heavens of creating and
Speaker 1: making music for me was all I wanted to live
Speaker 1: and experience every day. So they slept at the studio.
Speaker 1: They never missed a meal. They were working day and night.
Speaker 1: I spent hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars at
Speaker 1: the Good Tar Center because I would always call Tracy
Speaker 1: Edmonds because her and Baby Face had divorced, and so
Speaker 1: Tracy and moms rest in peace. Jack and mccorn they
Speaker 1: were running the building and had all the tenants that
Speaker 1: they were collecting rent from. I said, can I get
Speaker 1: this room? Can I get this other room? And my
Speaker 1: rent just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. My
Speaker 1: lease because I just wanted to keep this creative sanctuary
Speaker 1: of all of these producers, singers and songwriters working twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, seven days week in my office. And as
Speaker 1: I look at everything that these guys have done, you
Speaker 1: don't even understand what that has done for my confidence.
Speaker 1: Even Luke James, like, what what it has all done
Speaker 1: for my confidence? Bro? Like, I feel like if it
Speaker 1: all ended tomorrow, I had the gift of seeing something
Speaker 1: in their talent and believing in them and putting them
Speaker 1: in a place, in a space and environment that they
Speaker 1: can do whatever it is they're going to do, did
Speaker 1: not lock them down with publishing and try and take
Speaker 1: anything from them, and that they are offline, And I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coming to the present just so you can
Speaker 1: use that as motivation so I can leave. I've been
Speaker 1: here long enough. No, I'm coming to the present. Seeing
Speaker 1: that guy pass, How you act like that we're gonna
Speaker 1: be another three hours go ahead, That's how he feels.
Speaker 1: So I know, I know, I do. So, yeah, we
Speaker 1: still have ninety seven. You'll get to do it two
Speaker 1: three because because because I want to get to something
Speaker 1: that I know you knows as you spoke spoke on earlier,
Speaker 1: you love to pour in and a lot, if not
Speaker 1: all of what you pour I mean, you've been around
Speaker 1: some great people, You've heard some great things. You've You've
Speaker 1: heard some great sayings and heard some great stories and
Speaker 1: things that you're able to um connect to everyday life
Speaker 1: even for others. But you know that is are things
Speaker 1: that you've experienced. And I feel like what I just
Speaker 1: heard musically from you and in pieces before, but now
Speaker 1: this project that you have now, beautiful Pain, feels like
Speaker 1: a journey, a hell of a journey that you've taken
Speaker 1: from your first wife, if I can say, to whatever
Speaker 1: that ended up being to your second wife, to even
Speaker 1: the moment you had online where it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: have we lost Tyrese in all of this to now
Speaker 1: it manifesting itself into some of the craziest music that
Speaker 1: I've ever heard you make ever. And I just kind
Speaker 1: of want you to, you know, as much as you can,
Speaker 1: are willing to speak to the journeys that sometimes are
Speaker 1: tough to audit are tough to go through in order
Speaker 1: to create the art that ends up being beautiful paint
Speaker 1: um Well, thank you for that. Man. That means a
Speaker 1: lot to just hear because you've said it to me privately.
Speaker 1: You said it on Instagram when we were on IG Live,
Speaker 1: which broke this record, and you're saying it again. And
Speaker 1: you already know how much I love you and respect
Speaker 1: you musically, vocally, songwriting, pen all the above. So to
Speaker 1: hear that from your loved ones that you really rock
Speaker 1: with for real and look up to and respect means
Speaker 1: the world, you know, So thank you for that truth
Speaker 1: be told. Man. I was in New Jersey working on
Speaker 1: the movie. I was all over Instagram. We were way
Speaker 1: on the other side of the crying video to psych
Speaker 1: mads to break down, waking up to those accusations and
Speaker 1: everything that me and Samantha had dealt with at the time,
Speaker 1: which if I if I say fuck me and get
Speaker 1: away from me and look at everything through her lens.
Speaker 1: There was nothing about what she lived or had to
Speaker 1: experience that was okay and was cool. It was all
Speaker 1: extremely uncomfortable for me, and I know it was for her.
Speaker 1: Our first full year being married was like we were
Speaker 1: up there with the care Bears. It was like a
Speaker 1: never ending honeymoon for us because we became everything that
Speaker 1: we thought we were missing in each other's lives. So
Speaker 1: as soon as September eleventh, of all days hit and
Speaker 1: we woke up to those accusations. Then everything beefing with
Speaker 1: the rock, the psych mads, the meltdown online with the
Speaker 1: tears and the crying what more do you want from me? Like,
Speaker 1: everything just went crazy and there was no one that
Speaker 1: was around me twenty four hour, seven days a week
Speaker 1: like Sam. So fast forward, I got custody of my
Speaker 1: child that they tried to take away from me. They
Speaker 1: took my daughter, no cause, no attack, over accusations for
Speaker 1: one hundred days. And then when I finally got custody
Speaker 1: of my daughter back, there was about two months of
Speaker 1: monitored visits where I could not see my child without
Speaker 1: someone from the courts. They're monitoring me, and I was like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm confused. You found out that everything she accused me
Speaker 1: of was not true? Why the fuck you ain't monitoring her? Right?
Speaker 1: So me and Sam experiencing all of this, So then
Speaker 1: COVID hit. So now we're at home. We got about
Speaker 1: six people on staff supposed to be going home or
Speaker 1: the stand. We got some people from Atlanta that came
Speaker 1: to LA and We're all stuck like the whole world
Speaker 1: in quarantine. And then I said, you know what, Sam,
Speaker 1: Let's try and use this moment to inspire people. And
Speaker 1: I said, there's no flights, there's no shows, there's no calls.
Speaker 1: We're not going nowhere. We literally cannot physically leave the house.
Speaker 1: California's locked down. So we started doing these things called
Speaker 1: date night on Instagram. We had Jonathan McReynolds to physically
Speaker 1: come to the house and surprise her. We had Mia
Speaker 1: Tamiya and Eric Banet to redo spend my life with
Speaker 1: you because that was our first dance at our wedding.
Speaker 1: And then after I don't know nine ten months abandon
Speaker 1: quarantine and scared to fly because of obvious reasons, we
Speaker 1: get back to Atlanta. I landed six am Father's Day.
Speaker 1: I ended up shooting two music videos in a row,
Speaker 1: and so everything about casting, location, scouting, editing day and night, recording,
Speaker 1: everything that I was doing. Samantha had never experienced me
Speaker 1: and how much of a savage in my work ethic
Speaker 1: when it comes to working on an out so as
Speaker 1: I'm everybody's sleeping in every room, we're editing that I'm
Speaker 1: doing every you know me I'm a machine like I
Speaker 1: cooked day and night. We're gonna handle all things, not
Speaker 1: just a label. Just I'm an all inclusive, hands on
Speaker 1: person with every aspect of everything. And instead of being
Speaker 1: on location to work on this, I did it all
Speaker 1: at the house because we were all COVID free. So
Speaker 1: as I'm walking through the kitchen on my way to
Speaker 1: another meeting downstairs in the basement, she said to me,
Speaker 1: are you not attracted to me anymore? So? I'm in
Speaker 1: my zone right now. You know I'm a singer. You
Speaker 1: met me as a singer. You know I'm an actor.
Speaker 1: I'm grinding, I'm focused, I'm doing my thing. I just
Speaker 1: gave you ten full months of uninterrupted time date night,
Speaker 1: all every day, and independent of the fifteen minutes I
Speaker 1: gave niggas on Instagram, those date nights were turning into
Speaker 1: five six hours. Me and Sam so I left town
Speaker 1: to do a movie after I finished shooting them videos.
Speaker 1: We are going going back and forth about how busy
Speaker 1: I have been since I got back to Atlanta. She said,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I was like, okay. I literally jumped on
Speaker 1: the plane. I left the set two and a half
Speaker 1: hours early. They tried to find me seven hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand for leaving because I had more scenes to do.
Speaker 1: I jumped on the plane, which was the last one
Speaker 1: out to take me straight from Jersey to Atlanta. She
Speaker 1: somehow found out I was coming home. She put a
Speaker 1: COVID mask on top of the rain camera. She had
Speaker 1: like six or seven people, her mama, I'm sorry, her mother, stepfather,
Speaker 1: best friends, homies, trainer, whoever was available. They grabbed a
Speaker 1: van with a trailer on the back. They loaded up
Speaker 1: fifty boxes, and she left me and never came back.
Speaker 1: So I was fucked up through. I gave ten four
Speaker 1: months uninterrupted time pouring into that woman. Busy, controversy, shit
Speaker 1: was all over the place. I got it so beautiful pain.
Speaker 1: It's exactly that. It's beautiful pain. And I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all who she started dating right after me.
Speaker 1: I can't get out of way. I'm gonna save that
Speaker 1: from when the album dropped. It's gonna fuck everybody in
Speaker 1: this room. You don't have to like me. This beautiful
Speaker 1: pain is my truth. It's everything that I'm still carrying
Speaker 1: and feeling to this day. How is it possible to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship with a woman, and you're still
Speaker 1: affected by the woman that left you. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: It's not in everybody's cards to be alone when they're
Speaker 1: at home sad, confused, depressed, and fucked up. You may
Speaker 1: make that choice, but that's not a choice that I
Speaker 1: should have ever made. And I love Zelli. If I
Speaker 1: had one hundred million dollars, i'd probably give her forty
Speaker 1: for all that she's done for me, loving on me,
Speaker 1: laughter jokes, good energy, loving me in my mess. I
Speaker 1: could associate that to the hands of God. And at
Speaker 1: the same time, I can say I was a very
Speaker 1: married man, and I gave my wife my last name
Speaker 1: with our child, Gibson. And when I took my wedding
Speaker 1: band off, my finger was fucking life skinned because I
Speaker 1: never took it off, never cheated, never physically harmed that woman.
Speaker 1: And there's nothing that our marriage went through while I
Speaker 1: was working on music and recording day and night that
Speaker 1: we couldn't figure out that our marriage shouldn't have survived.
Speaker 1: I called every first lady of every church I can
Speaker 1: think of, Tammy Franklin, Taffy Dollar, Creflo Dollar, Kirk Franklin,
Speaker 1: Avanter Gray, pastor John Gray, a woman named pastor Kim everybody.
Speaker 1: You can think. If she's not willing to listen to me,
Speaker 1: can y'all go get her to listen to you. Please
Speaker 1: get my wife to come home. And she never came.
Speaker 1: So this beautiful paying album, my first single. I don't
Speaker 1: think you ever loved me. That ain't a song, bro,
Speaker 1: That's my truth. And I got you to thank t
Speaker 1: You came to my house, you heard my album. You
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. That moment that happened on Instagram that
Speaker 1: went viral. My song is top ten now it will
Speaker 1: be number one in Jesus name. I hope, and I
Speaker 1: don't want it to win because I'm winning. I wanted
Speaker 1: to win because, as you said, it's time to pull
Speaker 1: them instruments. Back out the fact that David Foster produce
Speaker 1: my second single coming after this one. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on. Shout out the band Brandon. I love you, bro.
Speaker 1: He was at my house, camped out for a whole
Speaker 1: year and brought the guitar Center to my house and
Speaker 1: played every instrument on his album. And I met Brandon
Speaker 1: because of you. And now this song has been launched
Speaker 1: all over the internet because of you. I give God
Speaker 1: all the glory. But he used you. He used you
Speaker 1: in my house on Instagram Live to throw that song
Speaker 1: out there. And you didn't cost me a lot of money, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you didn't cost me a lot of buddy, since you
Speaker 1: left up what you cost me a lot of money, Tank,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about radio promo, Bro. The amount of
Speaker 1: money I've spent since I've been in La getting all
Speaker 1: of this shit in place is unbelievable. I was doing
Speaker 1: just fine in my quarter sac in that lane. You
Speaker 1: came to the house and all of this happened. And
Speaker 1: I give the Lord Jesus Christ all the credit because
Speaker 1: he used you, Bro. It was a move from God.
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you right here on the
Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, this is going to be
Speaker 1: the highest viewed podcast. This is gonna be a very
Speaker 1: successful podcast. All of the sponsorships, imagine the boys coming
Speaker 1: and the level of guests y'all got coming. If you
Speaker 1: don't see to it yourself, I'm gonna see to it
Speaker 1: that anybody I know that y'all may not know or
Speaker 1: may not have access to them, they're gonna be sitting
Speaker 1: right here on this couch. This is the best podcast
Speaker 1: out there, period as soon as I've seen the first episode,
Speaker 1: I said, this is brilliant. I text both of y'all
Speaker 1: in my line, I invited myself on this show. You
Speaker 1: called me from London. I called you from London while
Speaker 1: I was shooting Fast ten. Yeah, and I said, Bro,
Speaker 1: this is the best shit ever. Yeah, you do. This
Speaker 1: is exactly what y'all should be doing. This is brilliant.
Speaker 1: I said, I gotta pull up. And I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to be on this show since y'all brought the ship
Speaker 1: off the ground episode number one. I've been looking to
Speaker 1: sit right here on this guy. I can't believe him
Speaker 1: in this wrong. So I'm just proud of y'all man.
Speaker 1: And however, met, y'all, met, I know you're saying, I
Speaker 1: I just I thank god, man. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say to the world man, because we've been here talking.
Speaker 1: This is probably episode three by now, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell y'all I love, I love everybody. Proud of you. Jay.
Speaker 1: You're sounding incredible on your song Man, that y'all did
Speaker 1: together fucking incredible. I'm not surprised, but you sound incredible.
Speaker 1: And you know, the beautiful thing about being a creative
Speaker 1: is that there's no rules. Absolutely nope. Right, So the
Speaker 1: dinosaurs say, if you don't do this, if you don't
Speaker 1: wear that, if you don't say that, if you don't
Speaker 1: go about it like that, then you ain't gonna produce that.
Speaker 1: There's nothing about anything that y'all have done since y'all
Speaker 1: met each other, how we met, whoever met introduced, nothing
Speaker 1: about anything that I've connected to on any level that's
Speaker 1: ever been traditional or conventional. And I tell niggas all
Speaker 1: the time all that they are trying to sit you
Speaker 1: down and then stealing you about what song, what you
Speaker 1: need to be wearing, what you need to be doing. Man,
Speaker 1: fuck all that do you? I piss people off every
Speaker 1: single day because I am unapologetic about my walk with Christ.
Speaker 1: I'm unapologetic about me and knowing my value of my
Speaker 1: self worth. And I'm also unapologetic about going above and
Speaker 1: beyond the poor into people and make whatever connection I
Speaker 1: can to know that whatever you tank is doing with
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine and vice versa, it ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with me. I couldn't do any of the things
Speaker 1: that y'all doing together. But look what happens when y'all
Speaker 1: get together. That's fifteen hundreds Academy. That's his idea. He
Speaker 1: found a location, he put his whole crew together. They
Speaker 1: do it all the work. Everybody I made reference to,
Speaker 1: I'm not being belittering, condescending. I'm not saying anybody owes
Speaker 1: me anything. I'm not name dropping. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: give myself more credibility than why are they have. I'm
Speaker 1: just fine, And I don't even expect none of these
Speaker 1: people to either confirm or deny anything I'm saying today.
Speaker 1: But we know what happened, and I feel I sleep
Speaker 1: good at night knowing that I have been used in
Speaker 1: any capacity to create a ship in anybody's life, because
Speaker 1: I just want to empty myself of everything I am
Speaker 1: before it's all over. And so yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: you ever loved me. Featuring Lenny Kravitz, Wow and Leandrea
Speaker 1: Johnson Wow again. It's for real. Yes, This Beautiful Pain
Speaker 1: is a double album. It's twenty songs, and I'll say
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the R and B kings up in here.
Speaker 1: I believe that I have the only album that belongs
Speaker 1: on vinyl. Because you will press play on this album
Speaker 1: is a vinyl album. You will never skip anything. It's
Speaker 1: the proudest thing I've ever done, but it's also the
Speaker 1: most painful thing I've ever done in my life. I
Speaker 1: wish this album with somebody else's Are you doing vinyl? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I need one, you will get one. You got my
Speaker 1: word both, I got when. I love when artists make vinyl.
Speaker 1: The packages ain't gonna stop. Thank you. It's your fault.
Speaker 1: I just I just really wanted to, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that people don't really understand what goes into this,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's so far beyond money and marketing and
Speaker 1: all of these things. Your life, your life takes me
Speaker 1: seven days at a time to do one song because
Speaker 1: I gotta literally walk away because I cannot believe. For
Speaker 1: these are my actual feelings, these are my vulnerabilities, these
Speaker 1: are my experiences. I can't believe that she's just off
Speaker 1: somewhere doing something and just left her husband and her
Speaker 1: family and all over the internet playing victim, trying to
Speaker 1: encourage women to leave when they not in it. No
Speaker 1: more leave do what you know that ain't a move
Speaker 1: from God. God said to thicken thing for better for worse,
Speaker 1: to death, do his part. Neither one of us. You
Speaker 1: left me, But no explanation. I still don't know what
Speaker 1: I said and did to this day. So although this
Speaker 1: album is very special, it is the hardest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever done in my life. And Tank, you know that
Speaker 1: if you didn't come to my house and make me
Speaker 1: press play on instant came out, this ship would have
Speaker 1: never seen a lot. I'm telling you sitting there, Beautiful Pain,
Speaker 1: I'm not blinking on my plan, Beautiful Pain. The album
Speaker 1: would have never seen the light of day because it
Speaker 1: has been the hardest thing I've ever had to do
Speaker 1: in my fucking life. And the craziest thing that you
Speaker 1: just said is that even with all that you were
Speaker 1: able to pour into this, it's still no closure. I'm
Speaker 1: on fire right now. If you put on a pair
Speaker 1: of three D glasses, I'm sitting there with a red
Speaker 1: jacket on on fire. I don't want her, I don't
Speaker 1: want her to want me. I wish her well. But
Speaker 1: she fucked me up, bro, and that's it. You can
Speaker 1: tell whatever version of the story you want. You left
Speaker 1: me on the porch with some wings and pulled the
Speaker 1: fuck off in the truck I bought you and left
Speaker 1: me in the suburbs at the heights of Racism, yeah,
Speaker 1: Savage Wings. I hope she goes viral for it. Savage
Speaker 1: can ask what kind of he tell me Wing stuff?
Speaker 1: I don't think so it was bootleg lemon pepper bootleg
Speaker 1: bootleg because you know what happens to some of those situations,
Speaker 1: situations with where food is connected to it. You can't
Speaker 1: eat that. More was definitely left on the porch. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Wing have
Speaker 1: a trauma triggering. It's triggering. Yeah. Man, I think I
Speaker 1: gave y'all my soul today. Yeah, and I know they're
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it, So I appreciate y'all. Man. I wish
Speaker 1: y'all the very best. Man. Were you closing out like
Speaker 1: like like you ain't got most ship to do? You
Speaker 1: got you got? Yeah, we're not letting you leave now.
Speaker 1: First you held that's houses. Now we're gonna hold you house.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's it's some other ship. So Reese,
Speaker 1: with all of your vulnerability and the beauty and all
Speaker 1: your pain, the real R and B you, you you've
Speaker 1: come across some music m that's made you feel away
Speaker 1: over time, some music that has inspired you to do
Speaker 1: what you do and be who you are m H
Speaker 1: speak on it. So what we want to know from
Speaker 1: you is top fuck your top five, Reese's Time five,
Speaker 1: it's Top five, R and Be Easy, RB song, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all Zy Rees, Top Breezy, Reefy, tops By, top By
Speaker 1: really tough. I know, yes, I know you got it.
Speaker 1: Tress Time five place so beautiful, don't you agree? Boy? Good?
Speaker 1: Teresa True? Top five R and B singers, R Kelly
Speaker 1: number one start to start there, then R and B
Speaker 1: singers start there. Say what you want to say? Nothing,
Speaker 1: it's choices. When he's going through, he's the greatest. How
Speaker 1: you have to explain nothing to me? R and B singer, writer, producer.
Speaker 1: He's probably giving away more hits than he's got for himself.
Speaker 1: The greatest to ever do it, Robert Kelly, Donny Hathaway,
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, Teddy Pendergrass Wow and Brandy Yeah, great list man,
Speaker 1: Great list. Okay, okay um. I don't think it's fair
Speaker 1: to just do top five. I mean Luther vandros Anita Baker.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so many people I pull from,
Speaker 1: you know, Patty LaBelle. I'm mean, it's it's like there's
Speaker 1: Al Green, top Beliven five Top baby two. Okay, so
Speaker 1: look like, okay, here we go your top five R
Speaker 1: and B songs. Um, I believe I can fly m
Speaker 1: R Kelly Um um probably m hmmm. I would say, uh,
Speaker 1: Donnie Hathaway singing this song for you, um Stevie wonder
Speaker 1: all is fair in love? Mm and um it's got
Speaker 1: baby Face all over it. But yeah, I think one
Speaker 1: of my favorites is like, I'll make love to you
Speaker 1: water runs Dry, like baby Face is, Like his level
Speaker 1: of pen and pedigree is is second to none. I
Speaker 1: think he's Um, I think he's definitely changed our world musically, lyrically, sonically. Um,
Speaker 1: baby Face is gonna live and die and never be
Speaker 1: able to shake hands of everyone's life who he's affected
Speaker 1: through his pen and he's not dying anytime soon. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's whatever still right, Yeah he is still But he
Speaker 1: said to a baby Face voice to man water Runs Dry,
Speaker 1: which was written by a baby Face. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll make love to you. He can. Uh. You know
Speaker 1: a lot about Voltron. A lot of people that come
Speaker 1: on this show don't know about Voltron because they weren't
Speaker 1: alive when Voltron was had. I don't understand the five
Speaker 1: lines coming together to phone Voltron to beat off the
Speaker 1: evil nemesis in space. You know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: really you are. You are the vot You bought that
Speaker 1: Voltron and I know you can meet me where I
Speaker 1: met when I say this, we're gonna form your R
Speaker 1: and B Voltron where you're getting the vocals from. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Lorentz, Tate and Ludicrous. By the way, because
Speaker 1: we were the original Voltron. Whenever we would link up,
Speaker 1: the running joke was y'all nigga less form volt trying
Speaker 1: to go out hit these streets. Thinking we would always
Speaker 1: say that. So once I ended up forming that actual
Speaker 1: company and running with Voltron that actually came from me, Lorentz,
Speaker 1: Tate and Ludicrous just throwing in the former Voltron without
Speaker 1: just throw them in there without me. Yeah, and thank you.
Speaker 1: There many take honoraryyat like your doctorate. Other people earned
Speaker 1: the doctorate. Tank was handed a doctor. No, No, he's
Speaker 1: earned it in the doctor. I earned my doctorate. All
Speaker 1: those we're gonna stop this ship right now. Oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to you. God damn volt trunk. And we
Speaker 1: had no one there. He jumped over the time my
Speaker 1: doctorate is based on years of studies and accomplishments in
Speaker 1: the actual field. Not studying the book on how to
Speaker 1: get to be in the book. Not in the book
Speaker 1: hoping to get to it, nah, not wishing him playing Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah on the turf, come on, because in the dirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you got it from the mud, living it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: done in it and coming back to life again. Lifestyle nigga,
Speaker 1: that's why nobody gonna get you one. Let's get to
Speaker 1: your damn voltrun. You can't was hanging and I came
Speaker 1: out of that thing right on time. What who you're getting? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what you Who you're got the
Speaker 1: vocal from performance style, from styling, from in passion. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the vocal. Whose vocal you putting on that voltrun?
Speaker 1: Teddy pendergrass m getting aggressive early? Yeah, turn them on?
Speaker 1: The performance style cows m M random music, you're build
Speaker 1: a man? Uh styling? Who put the drip on? Who
Speaker 1: get fly? Sure m hmm. Okay. He's been consistently killing
Speaker 1: him in the fashion space, especially look in that first
Speaker 1: video when he was killing you. I mean, who you're
Speaker 1: gonna get? The passion? He man? We never do. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get she said, she likes it my way.
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the passion of the artists from
Speaker 1: the heart of the artists Stevie mhmm, yeah, you feel everything,
Speaker 1: you can feel it everything everything. He's the level of
Speaker 1: conviction out of controver Stevie ist yeah, true, true, true, great,
Speaker 1: that's a great voltron. And it was four things so
Speaker 1: that things like you a little, the rands brands intact.
Speaker 1: So so y'all, y'all made the four vote troma. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to give him, bro. Yeah, maybe he can play
Speaker 1: the piano field. We got one more thing for that,
Speaker 1: one more shade, more thing for shouldn't go ahead and
Speaker 1: you're no rabbit. M we ain't nigga. What's gonna you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Is you gonna tell us a story? But
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do is I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names, saying no names. Where you was,
Speaker 1: what you did? Don't say I ain't saying no yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. So right now, so, right now, right now,
Speaker 1: right now, we are getting into Tyrese Gibson a k A.
Speaker 1: Black Tie. Don't talk about him. Listen, tap into the
Speaker 1: black Tie. The nigga was rapping and ship. He met
Speaker 1: a lot of cool producers and had him. It's only
Speaker 1: two rappers on him and problem black Tie, the franchise himself,
Speaker 1: the franchise tim Billy Billy. I don't know no other
Speaker 1: nigga got tim Billy at At. I heard about him.
Speaker 1: I don't know any of us. It ain't too many
Speaker 1: of them. See you see you see him here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see him here. Believe it. And what he's about
Speaker 1: to do give us a story. Funnier fucked up. Are
Speaker 1: funny and fucked up. The only rule to this game
Speaker 1: is he can't say no names. This is Tyrese Tyree.
Speaker 1: I got one, no one, I got one. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying names, all right. So back when I did Two Fast,
Speaker 1: Too Furious um in Miami. This was the second movie
Speaker 1: after Baby Boy only I did Baby Boy Too Fast.
Speaker 1: I was one and two in Miami. We're going crazy.
Speaker 1: I made one hundred and fifty thousand for Baby Boy,
Speaker 1: most money I've ever seen in my life. I made
Speaker 1: one point three million for Two Fast, Too Furious. So
Speaker 1: I was out of control. We party and we're turning up.
Speaker 1: We're going big. Were in Miami, never go to a club,
Speaker 1: never see the same woman. Were just out there going crazy.
Speaker 1: So there's this girl that ended up being on the
Speaker 1: movie set, and me and Paul Walker were both like
Speaker 1: flirting with this girl. She was actually the stand in
Speaker 1: for Eva Mendez. No, no, the side side. It's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something after you finished rolling. Uh. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're both given this girl all these compliments because again
Speaker 1: on the movie set, first team is the actual star
Speaker 1: in the movie. You're stand in that's helping with the camera,
Speaker 1: the lighting and everything that they're doing. They call them
Speaker 1: second team. Um, not a stunt double second team. So
Speaker 1: she's sexy, she's beautiful, and me and Paul just kept
Speaker 1: complimenting this girl every day. Didn't make any moves, but
Speaker 1: it's complimenting. So fast forward, Um, the movie is about
Speaker 1: the rap and then um end up running into this girl.
Speaker 1: You know, I had already started hanging out with her,
Speaker 1: knocking her down. It was fun times. And then we
Speaker 1: found out we were smashing the same girl. And I
Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to mention no names, but I
Speaker 1: just have to tell y'all that Paul quickly became one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people because the whole time both of
Speaker 1: us were smashing the same girl, and we never told
Speaker 1: each other that we were smashing. We just kept complimenting
Speaker 1: the girl to each other. And we'll be in the car.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Paul like, yo, look, no bro, like
Speaker 1: he gonna playing the game with me the whole time.
Speaker 1: So rest in peace to my brother. Man. He was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite humans. No one's supposed to drop
Speaker 1: no name, but there's no rules because we found it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, me and Paul for months were smashing
Speaker 1: the same girl. Uh. It was crazy and uh And
Speaker 1: then for me, when I look back and I reflect
Speaker 1: on the conversations that we were having, giving this girl
Speaker 1: all these compliments and all this love, and the fact
Speaker 1: that for whatever reason, we just did not want to
Speaker 1: tell each other that we had already been taking it down,
Speaker 1: it was the funniest shit ever to then find out
Speaker 1: that we both were smashing while acting as if we wasn't,
Speaker 1: and it was only me and him that did all
Speaker 1: these scenes. Again, it was obviously the whole cast of Fast.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was crazy. That's great. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: Nigga said all the names that he's a disruptor. He no, no, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: it's my game. It's not your game. You are a
Speaker 1: disrupted Brothers, but I love you, but I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that. But your corporate no, you cannot. I
Speaker 1: said names, but the names just made this story. Wade
Speaker 1: juice here then keeping the names out, Ladies, you think
Speaker 1: I want hold on? First of all? Do you think
Speaker 1: I want niggas walking up to me everywhere I go
Speaker 1: to say, yoh, who was the I don't want nobody
Speaker 1: ask me no questions about what was happening in Miami
Speaker 1: on the set. I'm gonna tell y'all the name, So
Speaker 1: nobody welcome to me asking me the name, ladies and gentlemen. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine, ladies and gentleman, my name is tak He
Speaker 1: just said my name. I'm Jay Valentine. And this is
Speaker 1: the everybody podcasting yeah, on all things R and B.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. Man, I love
Speaker 1: your brother. I love you too, bro. Beautiful pain is coming,
Speaker 1: Beautiful paint is coming. Asn't dropped. Let me apologize in
Speaker 1: the fast hardest. I will go to the house, drive
Speaker 1: and put the shit out myself. Lady, thank you, this
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