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Speaker 1: Uh this record. I'm sure you've heard the stories at

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Speaker 1: then fuck it. Um it was sold three terms. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need that die all right? Want your girl room

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Speaker 1: y'all later, man, fall in line, soldier, that's wild. These

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Speaker 1: What is going on? Because I've always had ears, you know,

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00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: rather I dropped albums every year or not, that doesn't matter.

418
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: I've always had ears for production, for songwriters, for rappers, shits.

419
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: I got ears, you know, It's my gift. I said, man, God,

420
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: if you don't do anything, don't ever take away my

421
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: ears to hear music when it's magic. So never heard

422
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: of James in my life. I had James to meet

423
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: me at a restaurant that closed down now, which is

424
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: called Cape mattter leanis Beverly Hills. I was there with

425
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: my agent and I went outside and James font Leroy

426
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: was there. I pulled him in my car. I listened

427
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: to like ten other records that he had, and I said, Bro,

428
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: you're fucking incredible. What are you doing? He said, bro.

429
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's very sarcast He's like, hey man, listen,

430
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm just out here, you know, doing what I do,

431
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: and you know whatever his words, it was very like,

432
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. I know I'm fucked up, but I

433
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: have I'm not gonna give you no energy about whatever.

434
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: I'm about to go back to whatever hood I live in,

435
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: wherever my bank account is north of or south of,

436
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you none of that. I

437
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: believe in myself. I'm talented, and I belong. I belong

438
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: here type of energy he had right, which I appreciate.

439
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: So then I was like, man, you're super dope. Bro.

440
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I fucking love y'all. Believe in you, man, like you're incredible.

441
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: And and then I went back to my car, right

442
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: and then I got a call, Hey man, my car

443
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: just broke down and I need some gas money. So

444
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I came back through the alley and I did whatever

445
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: it took to get him to the house. When I

446
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: think about all of the people that I loved, believed

447
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: in and created a sanctuary, a creative, safe sanctuary, and

448
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: I look at these guys have won Grammys before me.

449
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, I know James wrote multiple full albums for

450
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake, you name it. Now, these guys were not

451
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: These guys were not signing, and I was not a businessman.

452
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: I had Headquarter Entertainment and the frontline boys, but I

453
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: didn't have none of my frontline boys signed to me,

454
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: which I kicked myself in the ass to this day.

455
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that wasn't my agenda. I

456
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: wasn't on that. You know, I'm gonna sign everybody, I'm

457
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna take your publishing. I wasn't on none of that.

458
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: It was just literally like the heavens of creating and

459
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: making music for me was all I wanted to live

460
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: and experience every day. So they slept at the studio.

461
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: They never missed a meal. They were working day and night.

462
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: I spent hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars at

463
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: the Good Tar Center because I would always call Tracy

464
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Edmonds because her and Baby Face had divorced, and so

465
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Tracy and moms rest in peace. Jack and mccorn they

466
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: were running the building and had all the tenants that

467
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: they were collecting rent from. I said, can I get

468
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: this room? Can I get this other room? And my

469
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: rent just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. My

470
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: lease because I just wanted to keep this creative sanctuary

471
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: of all of these producers, singers and songwriters working twenty

472
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: four hours, seven days week in my office. And as

473
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I look at everything that these guys have done, you

474
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: don't even understand what that has done for my confidence.

475
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Even Luke James, like, what what it has all done

476
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: for my confidence? Bro? Like, I feel like if it

477
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: all ended tomorrow, I had the gift of seeing something

478
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: in their talent and believing in them and putting them

479
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: in a place, in a space and environment that they

480
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: can do whatever it is they're going to do, did

481
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: not lock them down with publishing and try and take

482
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: anything from them, and that they are offline, And I'm

483
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coming to the present just so you can

484
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: use that as motivation so I can leave. I've been

485
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: here long enough. No, I'm coming to the present. Seeing

486
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: that guy pass, How you act like that we're gonna

487
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: be another three hours go ahead, That's how he feels.

488
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: So I know, I know, I do. So, yeah, we

489
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: still have ninety seven. You'll get to do it two

490
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: three because because because I want to get to something

491
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: that I know you knows as you spoke spoke on earlier,

492
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: you love to pour in and a lot, if not

493
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: all of what you pour I mean, you've been around

494
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: some great people, You've heard some great things. You've You've

495
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: heard some great sayings and heard some great stories and

496
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: things that you're able to um connect to everyday life

497
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: even for others. But you know that is are things

498
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: that you've experienced. And I feel like what I just

499
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: heard musically from you and in pieces before, but now

500
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: this project that you have now, beautiful Pain, feels like

501
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: a journey, a hell of a journey that you've taken

502
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: from your first wife, if I can say, to whatever

503
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: that ended up being to your second wife, to even

504
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the moment you had online where it was like, you know,

505
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: have we lost Tyrese in all of this to now

506
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: it manifesting itself into some of the craziest music that

507
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: I've ever heard you make ever. And I just kind

508
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: of want you to, you know, as much as you can,

509
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: are willing to speak to the journeys that sometimes are

510
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: tough to audit are tough to go through in order

511
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: to create the art that ends up being beautiful paint

512
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: um Well, thank you for that. Man. That means a

513
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: lot to just hear because you've said it to me privately.

514
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: You said it on Instagram when we were on IG Live,

515
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: which broke this record, and you're saying it again. And

516
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: you already know how much I love you and respect

517
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you musically, vocally, songwriting, pen all the above. So to

518
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: hear that from your loved ones that you really rock

519
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: with for real and look up to and respect means

520
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: the world, you know, So thank you for that truth

521
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: be told. Man. I was in New Jersey working on

522
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: the movie. I was all over Instagram. We were way

523
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: on the other side of the crying video to psych

524
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: mads to break down, waking up to those accusations and

525
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: everything that me and Samantha had dealt with at the time,

526
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: which if I if I say fuck me and get

527
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: away from me and look at everything through her lens.

528
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: There was nothing about what she lived or had to

529
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: experience that was okay and was cool. It was all

530
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: extremely uncomfortable for me, and I know it was for her.

531
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: Our first full year being married was like we were

532
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: up there with the care Bears. It was like a

533
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: never ending honeymoon for us because we became everything that

534
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: we thought we were missing in each other's lives. So

535
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: as soon as September eleventh, of all days hit and

536
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: we woke up to those accusations. Then everything beefing with

537
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the rock, the psych mads, the meltdown online with the

538
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: tears and the crying what more do you want from me? Like,

539
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: everything just went crazy and there was no one that

540
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: was around me twenty four hour, seven days a week

541
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: like Sam. So fast forward, I got custody of my

542
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: child that they tried to take away from me. They

543
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: took my daughter, no cause, no attack, over accusations for

544
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: one hundred days. And then when I finally got custody

545
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: of my daughter back, there was about two months of

546
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: monitored visits where I could not see my child without

547
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: someone from the courts. They're monitoring me, and I was like, so,

548
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm confused. You found out that everything she accused me

549
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: of was not true? Why the fuck you ain't monitoring her? Right?

550
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: So me and Sam experiencing all of this, So then

551
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: COVID hit. So now we're at home. We got about

552
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: six people on staff supposed to be going home or

553
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: the stand. We got some people from Atlanta that came

554
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: to LA and We're all stuck like the whole world

555
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: in quarantine. And then I said, you know what, Sam,

556
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: Let's try and use this moment to inspire people. And

557
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I said, there's no flights, there's no shows, there's no calls.

558
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: We're not going nowhere. We literally cannot physically leave the house.

559
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: California's locked down. So we started doing these things called

560
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: date night on Instagram. We had Jonathan McReynolds to physically

561
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: come to the house and surprise her. We had Mia

562
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Tamiya and Eric Banet to redo spend my life with

563
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: you because that was our first dance at our wedding.

564
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: And then after I don't know nine ten months abandon

565
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: quarantine and scared to fly because of obvious reasons, we

566
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: get back to Atlanta. I landed six am Father's Day.

567
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: I ended up shooting two music videos in a row,

568
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: and so everything about casting, location, scouting, editing day and night, recording,

569
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: everything that I was doing. Samantha had never experienced me

570
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: and how much of a savage in my work ethic

571
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to working on an out so as

572
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm everybody's sleeping in every room, we're editing that I'm

573
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: doing every you know me I'm a machine like I

574
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: cooked day and night. We're gonna handle all things, not

575
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: just a label. Just I'm an all inclusive, hands on

576
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: person with every aspect of everything. And instead of being

577
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: on location to work on this, I did it all

578
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: at the house because we were all COVID free. So

579
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: as I'm walking through the kitchen on my way to

580
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: another meeting downstairs in the basement, she said to me,

581
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: are you not attracted to me anymore? So? I'm in

582
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: my zone right now. You know I'm a singer. You

583
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: met me as a singer. You know I'm an actor.

584
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm grinding, I'm focused, I'm doing my thing. I just

585
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: gave you ten full months of uninterrupted time date night,

586
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: all every day, and independent of the fifteen minutes I

587
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: gave niggas on Instagram, those date nights were turning into

588
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: five six hours. Me and Sam so I left town

589
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: to do a movie after I finished shooting them videos.

590
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: We are going going back and forth about how busy

591
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: I have been since I got back to Atlanta. She said,

592
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm out. I was like, okay. I literally jumped on

593
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: the plane. I left the set two and a half

594
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: hours early. They tried to find me seven hundred and

595
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: fifty thousand for leaving because I had more scenes to do.

596
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I jumped on the plane, which was the last one

597
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: out to take me straight from Jersey to Atlanta. She

598
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: somehow found out I was coming home. She put a

599
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: COVID mask on top of the rain camera. She had

600
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: like six or seven people, her mama, I'm sorry, her mother, stepfather,

601
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: best friends, homies, trainer, whoever was available. They grabbed a

602
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: van with a trailer on the back. They loaded up

603
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: fifty boxes, and she left me and never came back.

604
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: So I was fucked up through. I gave ten four

605
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: months uninterrupted time pouring into that woman. Busy, controversy, shit

606
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: was all over the place. I got it so beautiful pain.

607
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: It's exactly that. It's beautiful pain. And I'm not even

608
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all who she started dating right after me.

609
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: I can't get out of way. I'm gonna save that

610
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: from when the album dropped. It's gonna fuck everybody in

611
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: this room. You don't have to like me. This beautiful

612
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: pain is my truth. It's everything that I'm still carrying

613
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: and feeling to this day. How is it possible to

614
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: be in a relationship with a woman, and you're still

615
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: affected by the woman that left you. I'll tell you why.

616
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: It's not in everybody's cards to be alone when they're

617
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: at home sad, confused, depressed, and fucked up. You may

618
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: make that choice, but that's not a choice that I

619
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: should have ever made. And I love Zelli. If I

620
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: had one hundred million dollars, i'd probably give her forty

621
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: for all that she's done for me, loving on me,

622
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: laughter jokes, good energy, loving me in my mess. I

623
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: could associate that to the hands of God. And at

624
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: the same time, I can say I was a very

625
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: married man, and I gave my wife my last name

626
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: with our child, Gibson. And when I took my wedding

627
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: band off, my finger was fucking life skinned because I

628
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: never took it off, never cheated, never physically harmed that woman.

629
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Speaker 1: And there's nothing that our marriage went through while I

630
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: was working on music and recording day and night that

631
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: we couldn't figure out that our marriage shouldn't have survived.

632
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I called every first lady of every church I can

633
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: think of, Tammy Franklin, Taffy Dollar, Creflo Dollar, Kirk Franklin,

634
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: Avanter Gray, pastor John Gray, a woman named pastor Kim everybody.

635
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: You can think. If she's not willing to listen to me,

636
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: can y'all go get her to listen to you. Please

637
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: get my wife to come home. And she never came.

638
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: So this beautiful paying album, my first single. I don't

639
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: think you ever loved me. That ain't a song, bro,

640
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: That's my truth. And I got you to thank t

641
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: You came to my house, you heard my album. You

642
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. That moment that happened on Instagram that

643
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: went viral. My song is top ten now it will

644
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: be number one in Jesus name. I hope, and I

645
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: don't want it to win because I'm winning. I wanted

646
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: to win because, as you said, it's time to pull

647
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: them instruments. Back out the fact that David Foster produce

648
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: my second single coming after this one. I don't know

649
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. Shout out the band Brandon. I love you, bro.

650
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: He was at my house, camped out for a whole

651
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: year and brought the guitar Center to my house and

652
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: played every instrument on his album. And I met Brandon

653
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: because of you. And now this song has been launched

654
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: all over the internet because of you. I give God

655
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: all the glory. But he used you. He used you

656
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: in my house on Instagram Live to throw that song

657
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: out there. And you didn't cost me a lot of money, Nigga,

658
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: you didn't cost me a lot of buddy, since you

659
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: left up what you cost me a lot of money, Tank,

660
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about radio promo, Bro. The amount of

661
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: money I've spent since I've been in La getting all

662
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of this shit in place is unbelievable. I was doing

663
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: just fine in my quarter sac in that lane. You

664
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: came to the house and all of this happened. And

665
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I give the Lord Jesus Christ all the credit because

666
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: he used you, Bro. It was a move from God.

667
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you right here on the

668
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast, this is going to be

669
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: the highest viewed podcast. This is gonna be a very

670
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: successful podcast. All of the sponsorships, imagine the boys coming

671
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: and the level of guests y'all got coming. If you

672
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: don't see to it yourself, I'm gonna see to it

673
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: that anybody I know that y'all may not know or

674
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: may not have access to them, they're gonna be sitting

675
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: right here on this couch. This is the best podcast

676
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: out there, period as soon as I've seen the first episode,

677
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I said, this is brilliant. I text both of y'all

678
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: in my line, I invited myself on this show. You

679
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: called me from London. I called you from London while

680
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: I was shooting Fast ten. Yeah, and I said, Bro,

681
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: this is the best shit ever. Yeah, you do. This

682
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: is exactly what y'all should be doing. This is brilliant.

683
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: I said, I gotta pull up. And I've been wanting

684
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: to be on this show since y'all brought the ship

685
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: off the ground episode number one. I've been looking to

686
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: sit right here on this guy. I can't believe him

687
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: in this wrong. So I'm just proud of y'all man.

688
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: And however, met, y'all, met, I know you're saying, I

689
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: I just I thank god, man. I don't want to

690
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: say to the world man, because we've been here talking.

691
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: This is probably episode three by now, but I wanted

692
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: to tell y'all I love, I love everybody. Proud of you. Jay.

693
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: You're sounding incredible on your song Man, that y'all did

694
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: together fucking incredible. I'm not surprised, but you sound incredible.

695
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: And you know, the beautiful thing about being a creative

696
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: is that there's no rules. Absolutely nope. Right, So the

697
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: dinosaurs say, if you don't do this, if you don't

698
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: wear that, if you don't say that, if you don't

699
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: go about it like that, then you ain't gonna produce that.

700
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing about anything that y'all have done since y'all

701
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: met each other, how we met, whoever met introduced, nothing

702
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: about anything that I've connected to on any level that's

703
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: ever been traditional or conventional. And I tell niggas all

704
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: the time all that they are trying to sit you

705
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: down and then stealing you about what song, what you

706
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: need to be wearing, what you need to be doing. Man,

707
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: fuck all that do you? I piss people off every

708
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: single day because I am unapologetic about my walk with Christ.

709
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm unapologetic about me and knowing my value of my

710
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: self worth. And I'm also unapologetic about going above and

711
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: beyond the poor into people and make whatever connection I

712
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: can to know that whatever you tank is doing with

713
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine and vice versa, it ain't got nothing to

714
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: do with me. I couldn't do any of the things

715
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: that y'all doing together. But look what happens when y'all

716
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: get together. That's fifteen hundreds Academy. That's his idea. He

717
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: found a location, he put his whole crew together. They

718
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: do it all the work. Everybody I made reference to,

719
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not being belittering, condescending. I'm not saying anybody owes

720
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: me anything. I'm not name dropping. I'm not trying to

721
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: give myself more credibility than why are they have. I'm

722
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: just fine, And I don't even expect none of these

723
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: people to either confirm or deny anything I'm saying today.

724
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: But we know what happened, and I feel I sleep

725
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: good at night knowing that I have been used in

726
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: any capacity to create a ship in anybody's life, because

727
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: I just want to empty myself of everything I am

728
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: before it's all over. And so yeah, I don't think

729
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: you ever loved me. Featuring Lenny Kravitz, Wow and Leandrea

730
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Johnson Wow again. It's for real. Yes, This Beautiful Pain

731
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: is a double album. It's twenty songs, and I'll say

732
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the R and B kings up in here.

733
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I believe that I have the only album that belongs

734
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: on vinyl. Because you will press play on this album

735
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: is a vinyl album. You will never skip anything. It's

736
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the proudest thing I've ever done, but it's also the

737
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: most painful thing I've ever done in my life. I

738
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: wish this album with somebody else's Are you doing vinyl? Yeah?

739
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I need one, you will get one. You got my

740
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: word both, I got when. I love when artists make vinyl.

741
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: The packages ain't gonna stop. Thank you. It's your fault.

742
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I just I just really wanted to, you know, I

743
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: think that people don't really understand what goes into this,

744
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's so far beyond money and marketing and

745
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: all of these things. Your life, your life takes me

746
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: seven days at a time to do one song because

747
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: I gotta literally walk away because I cannot believe. For

748
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: these are my actual feelings, these are my vulnerabilities, these

749
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: are my experiences. I can't believe that she's just off

750
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: somewhere doing something and just left her husband and her

751
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: family and all over the internet playing victim, trying to

752
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: encourage women to leave when they not in it. No

753
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: more leave do what you know that ain't a move

754
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: from God. God said to thicken thing for better for worse,

755
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: to death, do his part. Neither one of us. You

756
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: left me, But no explanation. I still don't know what

757
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I said and did to this day. So although this

758
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: album is very special, it is the hardest thing I've

759
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: ever done in my life. And Tank, you know that

760
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: if you didn't come to my house and make me

761
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: press play on instant came out, this ship would have

762
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: never seen a lot. I'm telling you sitting there, Beautiful Pain,

763
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm not blinking on my plan, Beautiful Pain. The album

764
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: would have never seen the light of day because it

765
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: has been the hardest thing I've ever had to do

766
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: in my fucking life. And the craziest thing that you

767
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: just said is that even with all that you were

768
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: able to pour into this, it's still no closure. I'm

769
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: on fire right now. If you put on a pair

770
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: of three D glasses, I'm sitting there with a red

771
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: jacket on on fire. I don't want her, I don't

772
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: want her to want me. I wish her well. But

773
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: she fucked me up, bro, and that's it. You can

774
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: tell whatever version of the story you want. You left

775
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: me on the porch with some wings and pulled the

776
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: fuck off in the truck I bought you and left

777
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: me in the suburbs at the heights of Racism, yeah,

778
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Savage Wings. I hope she goes viral for it. Savage

779
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: can ask what kind of he tell me Wing stuff?

780
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so it was bootleg lemon pepper bootleg

781
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: bootleg because you know what happens to some of those situations,

782
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: situations with where food is connected to it. You can't

783
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: eat that. More was definitely left on the porch. No,

784
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Wing have

785
00:49:51,400 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: a trauma triggering. It's triggering. Yeah. Man, I think I

786
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: gave y'all my soul today. Yeah, and I know they're

787
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it, So I appreciate y'all. Man. I wish

788
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: y'all the very best. Man. Were you closing out like

789
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: like like you ain't got most ship to do? You

790
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: got you got? Yeah, we're not letting you leave now.

791
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: First you held that's houses. Now we're gonna hold you house.

792
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's it's some other ship. So Reese,

793
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: with all of your vulnerability and the beauty and all

794
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: your pain, the real R and B you, you you've

795
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: come across some music m that's made you feel away

796
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: over time, some music that has inspired you to do

797
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: what you do and be who you are m H

798
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: speak on it. So what we want to know from

799
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: you is top fuck your top five, Reese's Time five,

800
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: it's Top five, R and Be Easy, RB song, y'all,

801
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: y'all Zy Rees, Top Breezy, Reefy, tops By, top By

802
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: really tough. I know, yes, I know you got it.

803
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: Tress Time five place so beautiful, don't you agree? Boy? Good?

804
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Teresa True? Top five R and B singers, R Kelly

805
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: number one start to start there, then R and B

806
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: singers start there. Say what you want to say? Nothing,

807
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: it's choices. When he's going through, he's the greatest. How

808
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: you have to explain nothing to me? R and B singer, writer, producer.

809
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: He's probably giving away more hits than he's got for himself.

810
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: The greatest to ever do it, Robert Kelly, Donny Hathaway,

811
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, Teddy Pendergrass Wow and Brandy Yeah, great list man,

812
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Great list. Okay, okay um. I don't think it's fair

813
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: to just do top five. I mean Luther vandros Anita Baker.

814
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so many people I pull from,

815
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, Patty LaBelle. I'm mean, it's it's like there's

816
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: Al Green, top Beliven five Top baby two. Okay, so

817
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: look like, okay, here we go your top five R

818
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: and B songs. Um, I believe I can fly m

819
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: R Kelly Um um probably m hmmm. I would say, uh,

820
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: Donnie Hathaway singing this song for you, um Stevie wonder

821
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: all is fair in love? Mm and um it's got

822
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: baby Face all over it. But yeah, I think one

823
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: of my favorites is like, I'll make love to you

824
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: water runs Dry, like baby Face is, Like his level

825
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: of pen and pedigree is is second to none. I

826
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: think he's Um, I think he's definitely changed our world musically, lyrically, sonically. Um,

827
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: baby Face is gonna live and die and never be

828
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: able to shake hands of everyone's life who he's affected

829
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: through his pen and he's not dying anytime soon. But yeah,

830
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: he's whatever still right, Yeah he is still But he

831
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: said to a baby Face voice to man water Runs Dry,

832
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: which was written by a baby Face. But yeah, yeah,

833
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I'll make love to you. He can. Uh. You know

834
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: a lot about Voltron. A lot of people that come

835
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: on this show don't know about Voltron because they weren't

836
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: alive when Voltron was had. I don't understand the five

837
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Speaker 1: lines coming together to phone Voltron to beat off the

838
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: evil nemesis in space. You know what I'm saying, you

839
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: really you are. You are the vot You bought that

840
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: Voltron and I know you can meet me where I

841
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: met when I say this, we're gonna form your R

842
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: and B Voltron where you're getting the vocals from. Shout

843
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: out to Lorentz, Tate and Ludicrous. By the way, because

844
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: we were the original Voltron. Whenever we would link up,

845
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: the running joke was y'all nigga less form volt trying

846
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: to go out hit these streets. Thinking we would always

847
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: say that. So once I ended up forming that actual

848
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: company and running with Voltron that actually came from me, Lorentz,

849
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Tate and Ludicrous just throwing in the former Voltron without

850
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: just throw them in there without me. Yeah, and thank you.

851
00:55:53,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: There many take honoraryyat like your doctorate. Other people earned

852
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: the doctorate. Tank was handed a doctor. No, No, he's

853
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: earned it in the doctor. I earned my doctorate. All

854
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: those we're gonna stop this ship right now. Oh, we're

855
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: gonna get to you. God damn volt trunk. And we

856
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: had no one there. He jumped over the time my

857
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: doctorate is based on years of studies and accomplishments in

858
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: the actual field. Not studying the book on how to

859
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: get to be in the book. Not in the book

860
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: hoping to get to it, nah, not wishing him playing Okay,

861
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: yeah on the turf, come on, because in the dirt.

862
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you got it from the mud, living it, Yeah,

863
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: done in it and coming back to life again. Lifestyle nigga,

864
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: that's why nobody gonna get you one. Let's get to

865
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: your damn voltrun. You can't was hanging and I came

866
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: out of that thing right on time. What who you're getting? Okay,

867
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you what you Who you're got the

868
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: vocal from performance style, from styling, from in passion. Let's

869
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: start with the vocal. Whose vocal you putting on that voltrun?

870
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: Teddy pendergrass m getting aggressive early? Yeah, turn them on?

871
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: The performance style cows m M random music, you're build

872
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: a man? Uh styling? Who put the drip on? Who

873
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: get fly? Sure m hmm. Okay. He's been consistently killing

874
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: him in the fashion space, especially look in that first

875
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: video when he was killing you. I mean, who you're

876
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna get? The passion? He man? We never do. You're

877
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: not gonna get she said, she likes it my way.

878
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the passion of the artists from

879
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: the heart of the artists Stevie mhmm, yeah, you feel everything,

880
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: you can feel it everything everything. He's the level of

881
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: conviction out of controver Stevie ist yeah, true, true, true, great,

882
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: that's a great voltron. And it was four things so

883
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: that things like you a little, the rands brands intact.

884
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: So so y'all, y'all made the four vote troma. I'm

885
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: trying to give him, bro. Yeah, maybe he can play

886
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: the piano field. We got one more thing for that,

887
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: one more shade, more thing for shouldn't go ahead and

888
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: you're no rabbit. M we ain't nigga. What's gonna you

889
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna do? Is you gonna tell us a story? But

890
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do is I ain't saying no names.

891
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names, saying no names. Where you was,

892
00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: what you did? Don't say I ain't saying no yeah

893
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. So right now, so, right now, right now,

894
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: right now, we are getting into Tyrese Gibson a k A.

895
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: Black Tie. Don't talk about him. Listen, tap into the

896
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: black Tie. The nigga was rapping and ship. He met

897
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of cool producers and had him. It's only

898
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: two rappers on him and problem black Tie, the franchise himself,

899
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: the franchise tim Billy Billy. I don't know no other

900
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: nigga got tim Billy at At. I heard about him.

901
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know any of us. It ain't too many

902
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: of them. See you see you see him here? Yeah,

903
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: you see him here. Believe it. And what he's about

904
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: to do give us a story. Funnier fucked up. Are

905
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: funny and fucked up. The only rule to this game

906
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: is he can't say no names. This is Tyrese Tyree.

907
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: I got one, no one, I got one. I ain't

908
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: saying names, all right. So back when I did Two Fast,

909
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: Too Furious um in Miami. This was the second movie

910
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: after Baby Boy only I did Baby Boy Too Fast.

911
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: I was one and two in Miami. We're going crazy.

912
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I made one hundred and fifty thousand for Baby Boy,

913
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: most money I've ever seen in my life. I made

914
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: one point three million for Two Fast, Too Furious. So

915
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: I was out of control. We party and we're turning up.

916
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: We're going big. Were in Miami, never go to a club,

917
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: never see the same woman. Were just out there going crazy.

918
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: So there's this girl that ended up being on the

919
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: movie set, and me and Paul Walker were both like

920
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: flirting with this girl. She was actually the stand in

921
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: for Eva Mendez. No, no, the side side. It's cool.

922
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something after you finished rolling. Uh. So, yeah,

923
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: we're both given this girl all these compliments because again

924
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: on the movie set, first team is the actual star

925
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: in the movie. You're stand in that's helping with the camera,

926
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: the lighting and everything that they're doing. They call them

927
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: second team. Um, not a stunt double second team. So

928
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: she's sexy, she's beautiful, and me and Paul just kept

929
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: complimenting this girl every day. Didn't make any moves, but

930
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: it's complimenting. So fast forward, Um, the movie is about

931
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: the rap and then um end up running into this girl.

932
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: You know, I had already started hanging out with her,

933
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: knocking her down. It was fun times. And then we

934
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: found out we were smashing the same girl. And I

935
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to mention no names, but I

936
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: just have to tell y'all that Paul quickly became one

937
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: of my favorite people because the whole time both of

938
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: us were smashing the same girl, and we never told

939
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: each other that we were smashing. We just kept complimenting

940
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: the girl to each other. And we'll be in the car.

941
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Paul like, yo, look, no bro, like

942
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: he gonna playing the game with me the whole time.

943
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: So rest in peace to my brother. Man. He was

944
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: one of my favorite humans. No one's supposed to drop

945
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: no name, but there's no rules because we found it.

946
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, me and Paul for months were smashing

947
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: the same girl. Uh. It was crazy and uh And

948
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: then for me, when I look back and I reflect

949
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: on the conversations that we were having, giving this girl

950
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: all these compliments and all this love, and the fact

951
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: that for whatever reason, we just did not want to

952
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: tell each other that we had already been taking it down,

953
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: it was the funniest shit ever to then find out

954
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: that we both were smashing while acting as if we wasn't,

955
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: and it was only me and him that did all

956
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: these scenes. Again, it was obviously the whole cast of Fast.

957
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was crazy. That's great. Yeah, so that

958
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: Nigga said all the names that he's a disruptor. He no, no, listen, listen,

959
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: it's my game. It's not your game. You are a

960
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: disrupted Brothers, but I love you, but I have to

961
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: tell you that. But your corporate no, you cannot. I

962
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: said names, but the names just made this story. Wade

963
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: juice here then keeping the names out, Ladies, you think

964
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: I want hold on? First of all? Do you think

965
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: I want niggas walking up to me everywhere I go

966
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: to say, yoh, who was the I don't want nobody

967
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: ask me no questions about what was happening in Miami

968
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: on the set. I'm gonna tell y'all the name, So

969
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: nobody welcome to me asking me the name, ladies and gentlemen. Sorry,

970
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine, ladies and gentleman, my name is tak He

971
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: just said my name. I'm Jay Valentine. And this is

972
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: the everybody podcasting yeah, on all things R and B.

973
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. Man, I love

974
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: your brother. I love you too, bro. Beautiful pain is coming,

975
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: Beautiful paint is coming. Asn't dropped. Let me apologize in

976
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: the fast hardest. I will go to the house, drive

977
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: and put the shit out myself. Lady, thank you, this

978
01:05:54,440 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: has been Can I go home now? Money. R and

979
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,120
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