WEBVTT - ROC SOLID Replay: Young Guru 0:00:00.330 --> 0:00:02.690 What up, y'all? This your main man Memphis Bleak right here. 0:00:02.910 --> 0:00:06.160 Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.320 Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:09.940 Drink Champs. 0:00:21.380 --> 0:00:22.960 What it do, y'all? You already know. 0:00:22.980 --> 0:00:26.829 We back with another exclusive live episode of Rock Solid here. 0:00:27.250 --> 0:00:32.190 Got my motherfucking brother in the building, my ace boom coom. 0:00:32.510 --> 0:00:35.710 You know, everybody know Hov is my guy, but if 0:00:35.810 --> 0:00:40.199 it's ever anybody that's close to Hov in that position, 0:00:40.630 --> 0:00:44.580 it's this guy right here. My brother, Young Goo, welcome 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.080 to the show. You know you more than Rock Solid, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:47.740 my G. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:48.639 My G. You know what I mean? 0:00:48.900 --> 0:00:50.610 Good to see you. Good to see you. 0:00:50.700 --> 0:00:52.479 How you been, man? I know you've been all over 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.860 the world. Beyonce tour, Jay-Z secretly recording. You know what 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.920 I'm saying? There's a lot of shit going on with 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.040 my man, yo, Goof. 0:01:00.260 --> 0:01:02.370 You know what it is. You know what it is, Bleak. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.149 Then you got the Roc Nation School. Yo, they don't 0:01:05.190 --> 0:01:07.730 even know my guy, a principal in these streets, man. 0:01:07.770 --> 0:01:12.330 Yo, you be sitting... Yo, Lord. Yo, they be sitting... 0:01:12.090 --> 0:01:14.330 They get to the dean office, man. You got to... 0:01:14.290 --> 0:01:15.190 I'm the director. 0:01:15.370 --> 0:01:16.250 I'm the director, so. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.360 You know what I'm saying? The same thing is like 0:01:20.420 --> 0:01:22.860 we always giving back. You know what I'm saying? So 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.959 we put everything that we do underneath for Roc Nation, 0:01:26.459 --> 0:01:29.979 we put it basically in Long Island University in Brooklyn, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.179 right across the street from Junior's. 0:01:31.300 --> 0:01:33.819 Yep, yep. Shout out Junior's. Shout out BK. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.770 That used to be the LIU University. 0:01:35.830 --> 0:01:37.929 Shout out Ho for too much fucking money. 0:01:38.470 --> 0:01:41.550 Nah, but we put three different majors in there. You 0:01:41.569 --> 0:01:46.190 know what I'm saying? So I'm in charge of music, technology, entrepreneurship, productions. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.000 It's called MTEP, right? It's a track that we got. Basically, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.000 when you come to the school, it's still going to LIU. 0:01:54.020 --> 0:01:55.920 It's still going to college. You get a bachelor's degree. 0:01:56.340 --> 0:01:59.360 Oh, okay. It's still LIU. Hov just partnered up. Okay. 0:01:59.420 --> 0:02:00.860 You know what I'm saying? Same thing as if, like, 0:02:01.380 --> 0:02:03.280 say you went for nursing. You know what I'm saying? 0:02:03.460 --> 0:02:05.960 You would go to LIU, but your school would be nursing. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.120 This is the same thing. You go to LIU, but 0:02:09.139 --> 0:02:12.340 your school is Roc Nation. You know what I'm saying? 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.320 So we got the music. We got a vocal track. 0:02:15.100 --> 0:02:17.380 So vocal performance. And we also got, you know, the 0:02:17.419 --> 0:02:19.280 same thing we do with the management. So we have 0:02:19.370 --> 0:02:22.730 a sports management and the sports management actually has a 0:02:23.169 --> 0:02:24.290 bachelor's and a master's. 0:02:24.850 --> 0:02:27.220 Y'all hear that, man? Y'all kids, man, coming out of 0:02:27.260 --> 0:02:30.660 high school, the Roc Nation school. Hit up my man, Goo. 0:02:30.700 --> 0:02:33.040 You know what I mean? Principal Goo. You know what 0:02:33.100 --> 0:02:33.639 I'm saying? 0:02:33.660 --> 0:02:36.400 If y'all seen Lean On Me, that's how he walk 0:02:36.460 --> 0:02:37.190 in the halls. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:38.950 It really is. It really is. 0:02:39.290 --> 0:02:42.550 But we going to dive into all of that. I 0:02:42.590 --> 0:02:44.870 want to really get started this one off because you 0:02:44.950 --> 0:02:48.990 my bro. And we've been through, pardon me, we've been 0:02:49.010 --> 0:02:52.800 through so much, man. Let's talk about how we first 0:02:52.860 --> 0:02:55.340 linked up, how this brotherhood. You know, I want to 0:02:55.370 --> 0:02:57.490 give a big thanks to my girl, L'Oreal. You know 0:02:57.510 --> 0:02:57.910 what I'm saying? 0:02:57.930 --> 0:02:59.810 If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't even know my 0:02:59.850 --> 0:03:00.590 brother right here. 0:03:00.610 --> 0:03:03.470 You know what I'm saying? That's a key factor. Like, L'Oreal, 0:03:03.490 --> 0:03:05.490 you know what I'm saying, changed my life. 0:03:05.930 --> 0:03:09.209 Crazy, bro. And I remember how it happened. Shout out B. Stanley. 0:03:09.450 --> 0:03:10.130 You know what I'm saying? 0:03:10.169 --> 0:03:12.690 He was the engineer. He had something popping off that day, 0:03:13.070 --> 0:03:15.460 and he called out. And I remember L'Oreal running in. 0:03:15.500 --> 0:03:18.040 She like, Bleak, I got another engineer. He from Delaware, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.140 but he in D.C. right now and all that. He 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.120 ready to pull up. I think he was at Daddy's 0:03:22.139 --> 0:03:25.180 house at the time, at Puff's studio. And I was like, yo, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.820 all right, cool. Do he roll up? 0:03:28.940 --> 0:03:32.350 Do he smoke? She like, I believe so. I'm like, 0:03:32.370 --> 0:03:34.000 all right, well, tell him to pull up. 0:03:34.450 --> 0:03:37.030 And Goo came through, man, and it changed my life. 0:03:37.050 --> 0:03:38.250 It changed the history and. 0:03:38.210 --> 0:03:39.830 Trajectory of Rockefeller, bro. 0:03:39.850 --> 0:03:42.230 It's crazy that you say that because it's like, I 0:03:42.990 --> 0:03:45.030 always wanted to ask you, I always say that in interviews, 0:03:45.070 --> 0:03:47.850 you know what I'm saying? Like, it's no secret, you 0:03:47.870 --> 0:03:49.470 changed my life, bro. You know what I'm saying? I 0:03:49.490 --> 0:03:52.610 appreciate that, man. Same, vice versa, because. 0:03:52.330 --> 0:03:57.350 You made me understand being the more professional in the studio, 0:03:57.390 --> 0:04:01.270 you know what I mean? Like, you, Shang, rest in peace, Kamel, 0:04:01.450 --> 0:04:05.810 you know what I'm saying? Like, that, That trilogy and baseline, man, 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.860 y'all carved the way of how I go to the 0:04:07.900 --> 0:04:09.420 studio today and record. 0:04:09.540 --> 0:04:11.000 I don't know what. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.610 It was, but I always tell people, I was like, man, 0:04:15.050 --> 0:04:16.990 my man was, I don't know what it was. He 0:04:17.029 --> 0:04:19.070 was sick or he was having a baby or something 0:04:19.089 --> 0:04:22.040 like that. And when me and you got together on 0:04:22.060 --> 0:04:24.760 that first session, I was just like, We just clicked. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.460 Yep. Super. 0:04:26.620 --> 0:04:30.080 And you basically saying, I'm going to call Goo back. 0:04:30.580 --> 0:04:32.700 I want him again. You know what I'm saying? 0:04:32.779 --> 0:04:32.919 Yep. 0:04:32.980 --> 0:04:35.060 Every day. And then Hov stole you. You know what 0:04:35.220 --> 0:04:37.640 I'm saying? Hov stole my plug. You know what I'm saying? 0:04:37.700 --> 0:04:40.370 Now he Hov engineer. It's all good. 0:04:40.390 --> 0:04:44.650 That's my bro. But yo, from there, we went on tours. 0:04:44.690 --> 0:04:48.700 We did, yo bro, we done did a million countless sessions, man. 0:04:49.110 --> 0:04:52.950 Like to the point I remember when we... When we 0:04:53.010 --> 0:04:56.410 found out we were spending too much money at baseline. 0:04:56.630 --> 0:04:57.310 Yeah. 0:04:57.430 --> 0:05:00.790 When we finally went over the numbers. Nah, but listen, 0:05:00.910 --> 0:05:02.529 it be hard sometimes. 0:05:02.550 --> 0:05:02.970 Pause. 0:05:03.029 --> 0:05:05.610 You know what I'm saying? It be crazy sometimes when 0:05:05.630 --> 0:05:08.640 you go to the A & R meeting and it 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:09.510 was a real story. 0:05:09.570 --> 0:05:10.099 Yeah. 0:05:10.180 --> 0:05:12.620 Where, you know, I'm sitting in front of Jay. I'm 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.920 sitting in front of L.A. And they like, yo, Goo, 0:05:15.940 --> 0:05:18.100 you spent this amount. How I'm getting my money back? 0:05:18.700 --> 0:05:19.120 Exactly. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.299 And that's when I was like, oh, man. Like, yo, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.600 I came straight to you. Like, yo, you got to 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:25.260 come to my house. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.520 Yep, we got to tighten up. So we moved the session, 0:05:28.740 --> 0:05:31.520 everything to Goo House. He had the studio just like 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.580 this studio set up in the crib and the shed. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.650 I remember all the kids young coming in. My G 0:05:36.670 --> 0:05:39.870 had to go out, change diapers, make bottles in the 0:05:39.910 --> 0:05:43.349 middle of the sessions. But we were so ahead of time, 0:05:43.390 --> 0:05:46.320 you know, because a lot of these artists now record themselves. 0:05:46.380 --> 0:05:49.280 We was doing this 20 years ago almost now. You 0:05:49.300 --> 0:05:49.800 know what I'm saying? 0:05:49.860 --> 0:05:52.500 And I remember we thought that we were going to 0:05:52.540 --> 0:05:53.220 get the budget. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:53.360 Yeah. 0:05:54.710 --> 0:05:55.850 We did everything. 0:05:56.170 --> 0:06:00.040 We calculated all the money, how much we spent, featured artists, everything. 0:06:00.100 --> 0:06:03.220 Me and Goo sitting there like, yeah. I think it 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.820 was still Rockefeller at the time. Yeah. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.919 They owe us X, Y, Z. Goo brings the invoice 0:06:09.940 --> 0:06:10.500 to Hove. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:12.800 They booked us. 0:06:13.670 --> 0:06:16.870 End of the story is they robbed us with no gun. 0:06:17.170 --> 0:06:20.520 Them niggas said, y'all ain't got no LLC. Yeah, I 0:06:20.540 --> 0:06:21.340 ain't got this. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.400 We was young. We didn't really know what it was, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:30.330 but it was crazy just putting that together and the 0:06:30.390 --> 0:06:33.109 history that we did. Yo, bro. That was the crazy part. 0:06:33.130 --> 0:06:33.390 Unbelievable. 0:06:35.500 --> 0:06:38.310 Baseline, to the crib. To the crib, to. 0:06:38.210 --> 0:06:39.570 Rock the mic. Yeah. 0:06:39.630 --> 0:06:43.070 To everywhere. We done recorded everywhere, my G. Like, but 0:06:43.350 --> 0:06:45.529 just think, we gave them a free album, bro. 0:06:45.750 --> 0:06:46.470 Yeah. 0:06:46.470 --> 0:06:49.360 534. So they talking about where the money coming from, 0:06:49.460 --> 0:06:50.860 how they going to get their money back. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.719 Y'all recouped the first day and hit the stores. 0:06:53.740 --> 0:06:54.040 Yeah. 0:06:54.740 --> 0:06:57.060 They ain't spend no money. Like, yo, that was one 0:06:57.100 --> 0:06:59.580 of the illest things. Then me and my G, I 0:06:59.620 --> 0:07:02.740 remember when we first got our money. We in Miami. 0:07:02.779 --> 0:07:05.260 I think this is when Jay first met B. We 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.609 was having an all-white party. We let everybody shop in. 0:07:08.930 --> 0:07:11.050 This is the real Miami, not the Miami. 0:07:11.070 --> 0:07:12.990 No, no, no. You got to tell the whole story 0:07:13.010 --> 0:07:17.640 because it was like people think we get the— invites 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.080 10 days early. 0:07:19.140 --> 0:07:21.400 Oh, no, we got the invites that morning. 0:07:21.420 --> 0:07:27.470 So that morning, Hove, and specifically through Carlene, was like, yo, 0:07:27.950 --> 0:07:30.510 we having an all-white party tonight. I was like, we 0:07:30.570 --> 0:07:32.130 in Miami, I don't got no all-white. 0:07:32.270 --> 0:07:32.750 Exactly. 0:07:32.790 --> 0:07:33.610 So I had to go out. 0:07:34.050 --> 0:07:34.630 And remember. 0:07:34.810 --> 0:07:35.810 Figure out the outfit. 0:07:35.890 --> 0:07:38.590 There was no stores in Miami like there is today. 0:07:38.650 --> 0:07:41.530 This is when Miami just was one Ralph Lauren store 0:07:41.990 --> 0:07:45.670 on the corner and by the... The Lowe's Hotel, they 0:07:45.690 --> 0:07:47.510 just had, I think it was KFC. 0:07:47.790 --> 0:07:48.330 That was it. 0:07:48.350 --> 0:07:50.260 Then you had to go way out to Dolphin Mall 0:07:50.340 --> 0:07:52.320 or the Swap Meet. I think we all went to 0:07:52.340 --> 0:07:53.380 the Purple Label Store. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.820 Nah, it was crazy. So I went out, you know 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.980 what I'm saying? We get the shoe. But you can't 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.040 just get white pants. You got to get the linen. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:02.220 You know what I'm saying? 0:08:02.300 --> 0:08:04.240 It's Miami. Scarface. 0:08:04.700 --> 0:08:05.540 But I'm 6'5. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.390 They don't got all that in my G-sides. You know 0:08:10.470 --> 0:08:14.560 what I'm saying? We had to improvise. So you do 0:08:14.580 --> 0:08:15.880 what you do. That's right. 0:08:15.900 --> 0:08:18.200 That night, it was crazy because it was like, yo, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.560 we started at one spot. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:20.740 Went to a. 0:08:20.730 --> 0:08:22.290 Right? And it was like. 0:08:22.310 --> 0:08:24.510 God, we partied in two different spots. Hold on. 0:08:24.550 --> 0:08:28.070 But we walked in. They had everything on trays. They 0:08:28.090 --> 0:08:29.910 was like, yo, you know, you want to drink? You 0:08:29.950 --> 0:08:33.310 want to smoke? You want to... Whatever it was. We 0:08:33.330 --> 0:08:34.750 was chilling. We had, you know what I'm saying, a 0:08:34.750 --> 0:08:38.210 little spot. Then Jay LeBron get up. 0:08:39.290 --> 0:08:39.569 Yeah. 0:08:39.590 --> 0:08:41.270 And was like, yo, we're going to go to the club. 0:08:41.809 --> 0:08:44.290 Yep. This LeBron rookie year. 0:08:44.929 --> 0:08:50.060 Rookie year. We walk down the street. It's 75 people. 0:08:50.860 --> 0:08:51.900 We're all white on. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:52.819 All white. 0:08:52.860 --> 0:08:55.200 So we get to the front of the club. And 0:08:55.380 --> 0:08:58.780 the promoter was like, who with y'all? Everybody in all white. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.420 Everybody in all white. Yo, we went in there, shut 0:09:01.460 --> 0:09:04.439 it down. Skane even was there. Clue, everybody, man. 0:09:04.500 --> 0:09:07.580 But I'm just thinking about before the day even started 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.680 when we was looking for our outfits. I remember me 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.140 and you, this is like our first time touching some 0:09:12.230 --> 0:09:15.829 real paper. And I remember we all chilling, walking through, 0:09:16.490 --> 0:09:18.609 and we bought them dumbass Lockmans. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.179 Yo, my G. Like, we literally went in the store 0:09:23.540 --> 0:09:26.640 and like, fuck it. Let's grab these. I don't know 0:09:26.660 --> 0:09:27.160 what it was. 0:09:27.260 --> 0:09:31.600 It was just like, I'm with you. I'm with the crew. 0:09:31.620 --> 0:09:34.069 Yep. Free. Everybody was there. Beans. 0:09:34.179 --> 0:09:37.229 And we was getting it. So it was just like, yo, 0:09:37.350 --> 0:09:39.890 what you want? Five, ten for this watch? 0:09:39.910 --> 0:09:44.189 It's nothing. It's nothing. We was like swiping. We good. 0:09:44.570 --> 0:09:47.989 Everybody bought a watch. It was nothing. Me, you, freeway. 0:09:48.890 --> 0:09:49.450 All in the same day. 0:09:49.460 --> 0:09:51.420 I even believe Petey Crack even bought one that day. 0:09:51.500 --> 0:09:52.260 All in the same day. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.760 Yo, everybody bought a Lachman, and I believe that watch 0:09:54.780 --> 0:09:56.550 went out of style as soon as we brought it. 0:09:56.610 --> 0:09:56.850 Yeah, no. 0:09:56.929 --> 0:09:58.830 As soon as we walked out of store, the Lachman 0:09:58.850 --> 0:09:59.949 went out of business, I believe. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:01.520 That was the fun we was having, man. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.120 Word up. We was just wilding, man. 0:10:04.179 --> 0:10:06.360 The Miami trips, you know what I'm saying? Like that, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:11.780 the month we spent in Miami, that was a brotherhood 0:10:11.820 --> 0:10:13.800 that was like, we couldn't, you know what I'm saying? 0:10:13.820 --> 0:10:14.840 We can't replace that. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:20.329 Yo, but now that is a budget we blew. We 0:10:20.370 --> 0:10:22.550 blew that budget because we went to Miami for the 0:10:22.610 --> 0:10:23.790 Beans and Bleak album. 0:10:24.770 --> 0:10:28.100 Okay, so slow up, though. Slow up, slow up, slow up. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:28.410 Oh, Lord. 0:10:28.429 --> 0:10:31.099 Because I always tell people this. Because I'll be like, yo, 0:10:31.380 --> 0:10:35.040 the Miami trip started. It really started with. 0:10:35.100 --> 0:10:36.340 The party. No, hold on. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.960 It started with your brother getting hurt. Oh, yeah. 0:10:39.059 --> 0:10:41.050 Yes, yes, yes. Shout out Dre. 0:10:41.150 --> 0:10:43.170 Yes. And then we said, yo, we're going to move 0:10:43.210 --> 0:10:45.670 everything down to Miami. And we're going to go to 0:10:45.730 --> 0:10:48.990 Circle House. And we locked out Circle House for 30 days. 0:10:49.050 --> 0:10:49.829 That was the worst. 0:10:50.530 --> 0:10:53.770 It's the worst and the best studio ever invented at 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.860 the same time. If you have your worst place and 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.180 best place be in the same place. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.220 Shout out to a BB. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:05.210 Shout out BB. Because that studio spoil you does. Bro, 0:11:05.230 --> 0:11:09.840 remember in Baseline, only Hov had the studio budget. where 0:11:09.860 --> 0:11:12.670 they got the bottles of Chris or whatever they drinking. 0:11:12.690 --> 0:11:14.450 You're saying the worst because it was too crazy. 0:11:14.470 --> 0:11:16.089 It was too luxury. 0:11:16.490 --> 0:11:18.730 We didn't know what, like, we come to the studio, 0:11:18.750 --> 0:11:22.740 y'all got chefs, this the pool, the jacuzzi, we young, we. 0:11:22.630 --> 0:11:26.760 Got young females breezing through all day. They just, like, record. 0:11:26.780 --> 0:11:27.280 Right, right. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.880 Nah, we down there Rockefeller porn at this point. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:36.250 Right. Like, we ain't trying to make no records. I 0:11:36.290 --> 0:11:37.640 might need them to holler at us. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.460 That's crazy. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.120 So, we basically blew the budget. But one thing I 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:47.740 got to say, I always said this. Freeway took full 0:11:47.940 --> 0:11:49.220 fucking advantage. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:55.020 Right. Yo. What was crazy was, we was down there and... 0:11:55.830 --> 0:11:58.730 you was working, Beans was working, but y'all was working 0:11:58.830 --> 0:12:00.170 at opposite times. 0:12:00.190 --> 0:12:02.550 Because Beans at night out. Because you, like, you were 0:12:02.590 --> 0:12:05.410 super early, wake up, 7 in the morning, 8 in the. 0:12:05.370 --> 0:12:07.730 Morning, get my money, you know what I'm saying? And 0:12:07.860 --> 0:12:10.540 I would tell people, like, Bleak would be at Baseline 0:12:10.580 --> 0:12:11.380 by like 9 in the morning. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:12.460 That's right, 9 o'clock. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.900 Beans would call me at like 11, 12 at night. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.880 And be like, yo, yeah, yeah, I'm coming from Philly, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.560 you know what I'm saying? And be there too. 0:12:20.820 --> 0:12:21.320 All night. 0:12:21.340 --> 0:12:25.179 So that was like, we seen it in Miami. So 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:29.179 then Freeway was like, after three, four days, he look 0:12:29.220 --> 0:12:32.210 at Justin and be like, yo, like, you giving all 0:12:32.250 --> 0:12:35.160 the beats to Beans and Bleak? I can't get nothing? 0:12:35.610 --> 0:12:37.729 So we was on our way to the strip club. 0:12:39.429 --> 0:12:41.609 I remember. We used to dance all we do. That's 0:12:41.630 --> 0:12:42.250 what we did. 0:12:42.290 --> 0:12:43.830 We was in Miami. We on our way to the 0:12:43.850 --> 0:12:48.250 strip club. And Freeway was like, yo, come on, Justin. Like, 0:12:48.650 --> 0:12:51.390 let me get something. And he cooked up, rocked the mic. 0:12:51.950 --> 0:12:55.680 And that's when it flipped to... becoming a state property album. 0:12:55.700 --> 0:12:58.280 Yep. Free came back with them smokers because the only 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.220 record me and Beans did was Hypnotic. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.720 Yeah, but that's still, still, we got records done. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:03.160 Yeah. 0:13:03.179 --> 0:13:05.620 Y'all did more than that. They just never came out. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.179 We got a couple unreleased Beans and Bleak records that 0:13:08.220 --> 0:13:09.160 just never came out. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.120 We just never dropped it. We never finished the project. Nothing. 0:13:12.450 --> 0:13:14.750 But you made me argue you into hypnotic. 0:13:15.030 --> 0:13:17.870 Yes, because, yo, that's the illest, because I didn't even 0:13:17.890 --> 0:13:18.410 want to do that. 0:13:18.429 --> 0:13:20.880 Yeah, you didn't want to do the beat. 0:13:20.890 --> 0:13:23.500 That's another beat that I was like, yo, bleep, you 0:13:23.530 --> 0:13:26.040 got to do this beat. Yep, it wasn't until Beans 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.740 set the whole tone. Remember, Beans had the studio dark, 0:13:28.780 --> 0:13:31.640 candles burning. I come in there, everything hypnotic. 0:13:31.700 --> 0:13:34.540 I'm like, oh, wait a minute. Now I feel the vibe. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.059 Let's go. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.760 And I did my verse, and then when Hov came in, 0:13:37.820 --> 0:13:39.900 he heard it. He like, I got to get on this. 0:13:39.940 --> 0:13:42.330 Y'all think this is bugging. I need PC of this. 0:13:42.620 --> 0:13:45.410 Now, that was the first time, that trip, too, when 0:13:45.450 --> 0:13:48.150 he came down, was the first, because we were shooting 0:13:48.190 --> 0:13:51.770 a video for Beans. I forget which record it was. 0:13:52.510 --> 0:13:55.960 But that was the first time, like, because he was 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.870 starting a meeting, and he was like, trying to ask 0:13:59.990 --> 0:14:03.630 why you and B's album wasn't done. 0:14:03.929 --> 0:14:05.270 He wasn't doing no records. 0:14:05.309 --> 0:14:07.450 So he didn't start the meeting until I got there. 0:14:08.670 --> 0:14:09.850 He was like, yo, what's going on? 0:14:10.630 --> 0:14:13.790 They don't know, man. We spent so much money in 0:14:13.830 --> 0:14:16.589 that studio, man, Circle House. I think y'all done came 0:14:16.690 --> 0:14:18.590 up off us, man. Y'all might owe us a free 0:14:18.650 --> 0:14:19.750 session at this point. 0:14:19.890 --> 0:14:23.210 One on the house. Like, come on, man. Yo, then, right. 0:14:23.250 --> 0:14:23.970 They showed us love. 0:14:23.990 --> 0:14:24.230 B.B. 0:14:24.270 --> 0:14:28.770 Showed us love. Major love. And what's crazy is that 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.460 The last day of our organized session, like say you 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.080 paid for 30 days, was 9-11. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.500 Damn, that's crazy. Because I went home that day. You 0:14:40.700 --> 0:14:42.960 ain't fucking lying, goo. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.320 I flew home that day. We just was trapped in 0:14:45.340 --> 0:14:48.160 the studio. And the BB let us stay there for 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.160 like another two weeks because we couldn't get a plane. 0:14:50.180 --> 0:14:53.080 We couldn't get a train. I flew home that morning. 0:14:53.140 --> 0:14:57.220 And they shut everything down. That's crazy, goo. God damn, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.920 you blew my head off with that one. 0:14:59.740 --> 0:15:00.420 Damn. 0:15:00.740 --> 0:15:02.000 Last day was 9-11, bro. 0:15:02.620 --> 0:15:06.340 Now, I had a real question that Nori, he always 0:15:06.380 --> 0:15:08.540 texts me. He's like, yo, I don't care who from Rockefeller. 0:15:08.570 --> 0:15:11.110 You got to ask this question. But before we get 0:15:11.150 --> 0:15:13.510 to that question, I got a question of my own. 0:15:14.170 --> 0:15:18.250 Out of all the artists, of course, not exclude Hov, 0:15:18.850 --> 0:15:23.030 exclude me. Because that's like bias. You came in with me, 0:15:23.150 --> 0:15:24.150 so I don't want you to be like. 0:15:24.190 --> 0:15:24.670 Yeah, you. 0:15:25.930 --> 0:15:30.230 Out of all the artists, I'm talking about everybody, M.O.P., Emil, 0:15:30.630 --> 0:15:33.010 fucking Rel, you know what I'm saying? 0:15:33.130 --> 0:15:37.640 Beans, Free, Petey Crack, fucking shit. 0:15:38.260 --> 0:15:39.100 Young Guns. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.100 Young Guns, definitely. Fucking O and Sparks. 0:15:42.260 --> 0:15:46.960 Yes. Who would you say was the easiest and the 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.020 hardest artist to work with? Like, you know, one that 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.120 you ain't got to say nothing to. He just get 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.830 in there and do his thing. And then the one 0:15:54.850 --> 0:15:57.890 person that's like, yo, fam, I told you seven times, 0:15:58.250 --> 0:15:59.370 spit that word over. 0:16:00.250 --> 0:16:03.050 Nah, that's hard to say. That's hard to say because 0:16:03.070 --> 0:16:05.930 it's like, I don't know you. 0:16:06.290 --> 0:16:08.100 Because I remember. 0:16:08.300 --> 0:16:11.520 It'd be like, and I'm going to say it. It's 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.300 me and you so the people will understand, right? So 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:15.940 it's like almost like your kids. 0:16:16.500 --> 0:16:16.740 Mm-hmm. 0:16:17.310 --> 0:16:20.410 So, I love all my kids, but they different. You 0:16:20.430 --> 0:16:20.890 know what I'm saying? 0:16:20.910 --> 0:16:21.130 Yes. 0:16:21.390 --> 0:16:23.990 So, like, my oldest daughter and the way that she is, 0:16:24.050 --> 0:16:26.070 my second daughter, my twins, you know. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.080 What I'm saying? No, no. They're all different. 0:16:27.100 --> 0:16:28.200 I ain't trying to get you to shit on a 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.400 nigga so a nigga don't call him for a session. 0:16:30.460 --> 0:16:32.100 It ain't about shitting on him. No, it ain't about 0:16:32.140 --> 0:16:32.580 shitting on him. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.960 I don't want niggas to not get called for a session. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.770 Let me explain to you what I'm saying. It be 0:16:37.830 --> 0:16:40.190 different emotions. You know what I'm saying? 0:16:40.210 --> 0:16:40.630 Yes, yes. 0:16:40.650 --> 0:16:44.400 So, Hov is going to, like, sit there and figure 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.100 out the rhyme and, like, say, good, this makes sense, 0:16:47.140 --> 0:16:49.450 and boom, boom, boom. Me and you is on a, like, 0:16:49.810 --> 0:16:52.290 is on a, like, this my brother. I'm making joints 0:16:52.330 --> 0:16:53.290 with him. You know what I'm saying? 0:16:53.430 --> 0:16:54.550 Yo, but, yo, I ain't gonna front. You used to 0:16:54.570 --> 0:16:55.790 have me frustrated sometimes. 0:16:55.810 --> 0:16:56.310 No, I know. 0:16:56.330 --> 0:16:58.290 Because I'd write a rhyme, Goo would be like, yo, 0:16:58.330 --> 0:16:58.590 you said that. 0:16:58.610 --> 0:16:59.750 And I ain't gonna let you say no bullshit. 0:16:59.810 --> 0:17:02.250 Yo, you said that word three times already. Come on. 0:17:02.350 --> 0:17:05.460 We gonna put that word all through the rhyme? You serious? 0:17:05.500 --> 0:17:05.720 Word. 0:17:05.740 --> 0:17:08.870 Word. Word. Word up. 0:17:08.890 --> 0:17:11.490 Because I'm trying to be like, yo, like. 0:17:11.790 --> 0:17:14.570 And then when Jeezy came out repeating whole sentences, I 0:17:14.609 --> 0:17:16.710 used to be like, boo, I would have been the first. 0:17:19.170 --> 0:17:20.730 We was trying to make the best rhyme. 0:17:20.910 --> 0:17:23.669 Word up. You know what I'm saying? I used to 0:17:23.690 --> 0:17:26.000 be like, goo, and trust me, go. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.600 But look, even that, when you're saying that, that's the 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.240 fact that me and you could like, you know what 0:17:31.260 --> 0:17:34.470 I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't no like. yo, he trying 0:17:34.510 --> 0:17:36.130 to play me or this or this and that. You 0:17:36.150 --> 0:17:37.170 know what I'm saying? 0:17:37.190 --> 0:17:40.400 We brothers. That's right. Yo, bro, come on. I never 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.140 took nothing personal all the days. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.659 We making the best records. We did everything, man. I 0:17:45.060 --> 0:17:47.820 remember me and Goo in the crib recording, man. And 0:17:47.859 --> 0:17:51.080 we hit a block. We didn't know what to do. 0:17:51.140 --> 0:17:52.639 So me and Goo like, fuck it. Let's go to 0:17:52.660 --> 0:17:55.420 the store, get some back. We smoking backwards, yeah. We like, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.240 let's get some backwards. And we run into a nigga 0:17:58.480 --> 0:17:59.240 in the store. 0:17:59.700 --> 0:18:02.490 Like, yo, Bleak, what up? Yo, Goo, I make beats. Yo, 0:18:02.550 --> 0:18:03.470 I live out here in Newark. 0:18:03.790 --> 0:18:05.670 And Goo like, all right, yo, I know the homie 0:18:05.690 --> 0:18:06.310 from the block. 0:18:06.670 --> 0:18:07.510 Come to the crib. 0:18:08.010 --> 0:18:09.870 Right. And we end up, he come to the crib, 0:18:09.890 --> 0:18:12.129 played us some heat. We end up doing Hater Free 0:18:12.150 --> 0:18:15.470 that night. Yeah. And fucking, he turned out to be 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:20.359 Shea Taylor. Now out here producing for Beyonce. Out here moving. Shea, 0:18:20.380 --> 0:18:24.100 you owe me a beat. Because if I never bought Backwoods, 0:18:24.220 --> 0:18:26.060 you heard? Mm-hmm. 0:18:27.050 --> 0:18:29.550 We did, yo, me and Gudum been through it all, man. 0:18:29.590 --> 0:18:33.050 But one thing I got to set up, because Timberland 0:18:33.530 --> 0:18:38.910 and Swiss, they got verses. I got my own verses. 0:18:38.990 --> 0:18:41.810 We going to do this one. And if anybody steal 0:18:41.830 --> 0:18:46.170 this idea, somebody sue them for me. Because this, you 0:18:46.210 --> 0:18:50.050 heard it here first. We need a DJ verses. And 0:18:50.070 --> 0:18:54.570 the first two people, all my DJ verses is my bro, 0:18:55.330 --> 0:18:57.369 It just fucking blazed. 0:18:57.710 --> 0:18:58.570 Oh, you're going to go there. 0:18:58.609 --> 0:18:58.830 Yo. 0:19:00.369 --> 0:19:02.150 You're going to go there. 0:19:02.190 --> 0:19:05.650 Yo, listen. Yo, I don't know. All right. 0:19:05.690 --> 0:19:06.410 You're going to go there. 0:19:06.450 --> 0:19:08.740 Yo, Goo is a major nice DJ. 0:19:09.060 --> 0:19:11.419 But one thing I can say about my brother, it's 0:19:11.500 --> 0:19:13.020 almost like he from Marcy. 0:19:13.180 --> 0:19:17.649 Because you're a competitive motherfucker, yo. And I'm the same way. 0:19:17.780 --> 0:19:18.800 It's only certain things. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.340 That I take super serious like we could do whatever 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.940 you know what I'm saying competitive and I lose and 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.260 I be like alright cool but it's certain things that 0:19:29.300 --> 0:19:33.179 I take super serious one of them is basketball and 0:19:33.300 --> 0:19:35.320 one of them is DJing I think that's the only 0:19:35.380 --> 0:19:38.590 time I ever saw you like that upset like usually 0:19:38.609 --> 0:19:40.850 you know you upset but you composed it's over some 0:19:40.910 --> 0:19:43.149 family show this happened nigga bullshit. 0:19:42.930 --> 0:19:45.430 Nah what happened was what happened was nah I'ma tell 0:19:45.450 --> 0:19:52.520 you I'ma tell you the whole story so it was 0:19:52.540 --> 0:19:56.429 it was the day that we was doing um the 0:19:56.530 --> 0:20:00.080 EPMD record over with you and Beans yup so what 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.380 you're saying so we was happy because we was like 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.520 yo we're gonna get DJ Scratch to come in and 0:20:04.540 --> 0:20:07.140 do the Scratches live you know what I'm saying so 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:08.880 we set up we rented see I didn't even know 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.900 that part yeah yeah nah we got Scratch to do 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:16.500 it over so we had the turntable set you know 0:20:16.540 --> 0:20:17.740 me and Just is like you know what. 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.100 I'm saying Scratch is Scratch is me you and Just 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.419 Scratch is a legend so it's like us trying to 0:20:23.460 --> 0:20:25.780 set it up for him so that he's comfortable when 0:20:25.820 --> 0:20:27.800 he come in and be like yo it's already set 0:20:27.859 --> 0:20:29.090 up you ain't gotta you know what I'm saying mess 0:20:29.109 --> 0:20:30.340 with nothing Boom, boom, boom. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.580 So we had everything set up, two turntables, the mix 0:20:32.619 --> 0:20:35.610 in the middle. Everything was weighted perfectly. Me and Justin, 0:20:35.619 --> 0:20:37.450 you know, everything. For Scratch. 0:20:37.710 --> 0:20:37.910 Yep. 0:20:38.850 --> 0:20:41.859 So then afterwards... It was just y'all in there beating it. 0:20:41.859 --> 0:20:44.399 The shit popping, you know what I'm saying? Start in 0:20:44.420 --> 0:20:47.879 the studio. And I just so happened to walk in 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.180 the room, and they talking shit. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.240 Goo like, well, I smoked you on these tables. Just 0:20:52.300 --> 0:20:53.520 like what? Set it off. 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.780 So you know me, Marcy Instigator, y'all niggas, let me 0:20:57.859 --> 0:20:59.240 see this battle go down. 0:20:59.580 --> 0:21:01.080 And the battle went down. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.380 I ain't going to say who won. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:04.600 Ain't nobody win. 0:21:04.980 --> 0:21:09.399 But all I know is my man Goo wanted to fight. 0:21:10.130 --> 0:21:12.910 And I was sitting there like, no way. 0:21:13.030 --> 0:21:15.710 And just, you know, he wanted to get back to Zelda, 0:21:15.750 --> 0:21:16.930 but he wanted to fight too. 0:21:16.970 --> 0:21:19.810 And I'm looking at him like, no way. 0:21:19.869 --> 0:21:21.730 No, you say what it is. Like, I don't like 0:21:21.770 --> 0:21:24.590 that when people battle and like they lose and they 0:21:24.609 --> 0:21:26.040 don't want to say they lost. 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.180 Nah, because it's got to be on TV. Nah, you 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:29.379 ain't have your. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.480 No, no, I'm into reggae battles. I'm into all types 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.940 of battles. So, if you come out and you lose 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.740 that night, you got to say you lost. 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:39.379 I ain't doing this. 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.500 So, that night, no, that night, I was like, Just 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.010 was scratching. He was killing it, right? 0:21:44.070 --> 0:21:45.470 Yo, he was going hard. 0:21:46.450 --> 0:21:49.109 So, I'm trying to beat juggle, and the shit was 0:21:49.130 --> 0:21:51.810 skipping on me, and I lost. And I was like, 0:21:51.890 --> 0:21:53.270 but I was so heated. 0:21:53.290 --> 0:21:55.830 You had never seen me in that vein before where 0:21:55.890 --> 0:21:56.830 I was like, yo, I was so mad. 0:21:56.850 --> 0:21:58.010 I was like, what the fuck? 0:21:58.470 --> 0:22:02.970 That I had lost that night. In front of everybody, yeah, 0:22:02.990 --> 0:22:05.070 I was ready to fight. I was like, yo. It 0:22:05.109 --> 0:22:09.050 was like the night, it was like, okay, Just is 0:22:09.090 --> 0:22:13.210 the video game king in Baseline, right? Yo. He's the 0:22:13.230 --> 0:22:14.030 video game king. 0:22:14.090 --> 0:22:15.550 Nobody beat him in 2K. 0:22:15.650 --> 0:22:17.830 No, no, but the one, I'm relaying this to the 0:22:17.850 --> 0:22:20.630 story you just told. So the one night that I 0:22:20.670 --> 0:22:22.670 beat Just in a video game, I don't even remember 0:22:22.690 --> 0:22:24.710 what it was. He was on the same type set. 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.840 I was there for that, too. I was there for that. 0:22:28.140 --> 0:22:31.840 That wasn't, I think it was NBA Live because it 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.419 wasn't 2K then. It was NBA Live on Madden, and 0:22:35.460 --> 0:22:37.860 you whooped him in the room right there. And see, 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.960 that's like video games is something I don't care about. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.060 Yeah, but he broke the controller and everything. I was 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.090 there for that, too. Video games is something I don't 0:22:45.290 --> 0:22:47.790 care about. Yo, listen, these two niggas got secret trouble. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:49.860 They love each other. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:50.360 He's ready to go. 0:22:50.380 --> 0:22:52.500 But they got major competitive beef. 0:22:52.820 --> 0:22:53.480 And I love it. 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.140 And I just so happen to have been there for 0:22:55.220 --> 0:22:59.889 both of y'all competitions. But another thing, Goo, and I 0:22:59.930 --> 0:23:03.870 ain't going to lie. I done seen the book of Hov. Shit, 0:23:03.930 --> 0:23:05.150 I done seen the book of Eli. 0:23:05.170 --> 0:23:08.870 That was really dope. How you feel like you can't 0:23:09.170 --> 0:23:15.199 skip over that. So, first of all, everybody got to 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.020 realize that we kept that a secret from Hov. 0:23:18.900 --> 0:23:19.320 I know. 0:23:19.780 --> 0:23:24.000 We kept it a super secret from Hov. So it 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.520 was like, you know, something monumental to be like, yo, 50th, 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.119 you know what I'm saying, hip hop. 0:23:30.900 --> 0:23:33.960 What I would like to get out there or what 0:23:34.350 --> 0:23:37.970 people don't really realize is the museum was doing fine. 0:23:38.650 --> 0:23:40.350 The library wasn't. 0:23:40.369 --> 0:23:41.070 That's right. 0:23:41.910 --> 0:23:46.429 And so with Hov stepping in, making this exhibit, It 0:23:46.470 --> 0:23:48.429 brings the library to a certain point, you know what 0:23:48.450 --> 0:23:52.030 I'm saying, where people are now getting library cards, you 0:23:52.050 --> 0:23:53.130 know what I'm saying? 0:23:53.590 --> 0:23:55.790 Basically, you know, kept the library going. 0:23:55.990 --> 0:23:58.610 For your hometown, you know what I'm saying? 0:23:58.630 --> 0:24:01.780 That's a staple. That Brooklyn library been there since, man, 0:24:01.820 --> 0:24:02.949 I can remember. 0:24:03.060 --> 0:24:04.780 We tried to keep it a secret until they, like, 0:24:04.859 --> 0:24:07.200 wrapped the whole front with the lyrics. 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.400 You know what I mean? Everybody on there. And my 0:24:10.420 --> 0:24:11.520 man Meek Mill, too. 0:24:11.820 --> 0:24:17.280 Shout out, Meek. That's my bro. He sent the direct flare. But, yeah, 0:24:17.300 --> 0:24:18.960 the Book of Hov, I ain't going to front. That 0:24:19.020 --> 0:24:21.060 blew my mind. Just to be in a museum, like, 0:24:21.140 --> 0:24:24.199 I'm born and raised there. You know, my grandma's is 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:25.180 from Ebbetsville. 0:24:25.530 --> 0:24:26.160 You know what I'm saying? 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.050 So I walked past that library my whole life going 0:24:29.070 --> 0:24:31.990 to Prospect Park. So to walk in the library, bring 0:24:32.030 --> 0:24:33.890 my kids there, and they be able to see me, 0:24:33.950 --> 0:24:38.030 the history that we accomplished together is. 0:24:37.930 --> 0:24:38.820 Remarkable, man. 0:24:38.930 --> 0:24:41.359 Like, there's no words to put to that. But I 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.800 was saying that because... You got to make your book, Guru. 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:46.820 Seriously. 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.580 I think it's time for you to release your book. 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:55.560 Because Baseline didn't roll without Guru. When Guru said, I 0:24:55.580 --> 0:24:58.220 got to go home. I'm going to take a shower. 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.379 The studio basically was closed. Everybody just sitting in there 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.209 playing dice on the pool table. Niggas just sitting there 0:25:05.230 --> 0:25:08.570 watching YouTube. Niggas is bullshitting in the studio. 0:25:09.030 --> 0:25:09.550 It was a super. 0:25:11.780 --> 0:25:20.320 It was an intuitive, broken-down, everything, step-by-step, basically, Pro Tools 0:25:20.380 --> 0:25:23.100 book for dummies. Like, they have the crash course for 0:25:23.140 --> 0:25:25.300 people who don't know, you know? And I feel like 0:25:25.380 --> 0:25:29.050 that book taught me Pro Tools for the nights that 0:25:29.109 --> 0:25:31.450 you used to leave. And I'd be like, damn, Shane, 0:25:31.470 --> 0:25:33.170 where the book at? And Shane would show me the book. 0:25:33.210 --> 0:25:35.930 I'd be like, this wire go here, this plug-in go here. 0:25:36.290 --> 0:25:38.209 We hit this button, Shane hit that button. I'm going 0:25:38.230 --> 0:25:40.310 to run in the booth and do this verse. And 0:25:40.369 --> 0:25:44.050 from there, I bought a laptop, bought an M-Box. And, bro, 0:25:44.130 --> 0:25:47.070 I used to record shit. I did the record with M.O.P. 0:25:47.109 --> 0:25:48.090 in my hotel room. 0:25:48.210 --> 0:25:48.570 Yeah, man. 0:25:48.609 --> 0:25:51.310 Like, you heard the fame on the record like, damn, 0:25:51.330 --> 0:25:53.970 y'all don't take the mic in the bathroom or nothing? Like, 0:25:54.350 --> 0:25:56.590 so that's all for you. So I feel like that 0:25:56.730 --> 0:26:00.520 book is pivotal. Like, people will want a copy of 0:26:00.580 --> 0:26:04.660 that and learn from that. Because what these kids doing today, man, 0:26:05.140 --> 0:26:06.320 is not what we learned. 0:26:06.420 --> 0:26:07.100 Trust me. 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:12.210 I get it. It was just, you know. People don't 0:26:12.270 --> 0:26:14.550 realize I was there for four days straight. You know 0:26:14.570 --> 0:26:14.869 what I'm saying? 0:26:14.910 --> 0:26:17.170 I'm like, yo, I got to go take a shower. Yep. 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.880 So while I'm gone, here's how you work everything in here. 0:26:22.180 --> 0:26:24.399 You know what I'm saying? So that the work don't 0:26:24.420 --> 0:26:24.940 have to stop. 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:29.149 But that's... I take time to break down. You see 0:26:29.170 --> 0:26:31.090 how you walked in here? You like, yo, these plugins 0:26:31.109 --> 0:26:34.740 don't have no compressor. Yo, they bugging 90,000 for the board. 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.220 It's not one compressor. I tell people all the time, 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.640 Goo is the oracle of this shit. He will walk 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.270 in your studio and tell you, Yo, it's not right. 0:26:42.510 --> 0:26:44.730 Everything is off. Everything is wrong. It's just like how 0:26:44.750 --> 0:26:46.530 a painter walk in and know. Yeah. 0:26:46.670 --> 0:26:49.530 The painter's not right, bro. Like, it's not smooth here. 0:26:49.550 --> 0:26:50.130 It's lumpy. 0:26:50.390 --> 0:26:50.660 Yeah. 0:26:50.820 --> 0:26:52.659 You know what I'm saying? And that's how you are. 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.919 That's what Baseline was like. You know what I'm saying? 0:26:54.940 --> 0:26:55.010 Yes. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.879 We had it the way we wanted it and... You 0:26:57.900 --> 0:26:59.240 didn't have to worry about the equipment. 0:26:59.500 --> 0:26:59.820 No. 0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:00.359 You know what I'm saying? 0:27:00.460 --> 0:27:00.840 At all. 0:27:00.900 --> 0:27:04.110 Now you go to studios, equipment ain't right. OG Ward 0:27:04.170 --> 0:27:07.810 spent that grip. He made sure everything was A1, and 0:27:07.869 --> 0:27:08.210 if it. 0:27:08.190 --> 0:27:09.409 Broke, we bought a new one. 0:27:09.609 --> 0:27:12.159 And it was comfortable, and it was like multiple rooms, 0:27:12.180 --> 0:27:14.620 and it was like, you know what I'm saying, the vibe. 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:18.230 That we had. Why all these dudes... That got studios 0:27:18.250 --> 0:27:19.409 with multiple rooms. This is a good. 0:27:19.430 --> 0:27:21.730 Because you said it was multiple rooms, and we never 0:27:21.830 --> 0:27:24.190 had this problem. And I know you know what I'm 0:27:24.210 --> 0:27:26.470 about to say. You go in all these studios, the 0:27:26.650 --> 0:27:29.450 A room got AC, but the B room don't. What 0:27:29.490 --> 0:27:33.050 the fuck is that about? Like, everybody B room just hot. 0:27:33.570 --> 0:27:34.570 Like, yo. 0:27:34.890 --> 0:27:40.650 Nah, it's difficult nowadays because people don't really realize what 0:27:40.710 --> 0:27:42.270 it mean when they say the studio. 0:27:42.490 --> 0:27:42.910 Yeah. 0:27:43.130 --> 0:27:45.780 You know what I'm saying? So people think, like, setting 0:27:45.859 --> 0:27:50.450 up a computer... And a couple little things is a studio, 0:27:50.550 --> 0:27:52.710 and it's not really. You know what I'm saying? That's right. 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.460 So to the point of building a room inside of 0:27:55.520 --> 0:28:00.919 a room and different design techniques and things that you 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.660 don't got to worry about because it was like, yo, 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.580 goo know about it. You know what I'm saying? So 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:13.169 it's not really about the quality of what's good enough 0:28:14.170 --> 0:28:18.390 matters now. Not great. Not perfect. You know what I'm saying? 0:28:18.430 --> 0:28:19.270 It's just good enough. 0:28:19.350 --> 0:28:22.050 It's like in the 65 on the test map. Yeah, 0:28:22.090 --> 0:28:23.800 it's like in the 65. Yeah, I don't want 100. 0:28:23.790 --> 0:28:26.770 I passed. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, I passed. And you're right. 0:28:26.830 --> 0:28:29.290 That's what's going on today. It's just good enough. It's 0:28:29.310 --> 0:28:29.750 not great. 0:28:29.770 --> 0:28:32.669 These kids not perfecting and not taking any time to 0:28:32.730 --> 0:28:36.250 learn the craft. You know what I'm saying? That's one thing. 0:28:36.310 --> 0:28:40.400 And I know being around you. See, I'm not familiar 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.090 with this guy's music, but I got familiar with it 0:28:43.230 --> 0:28:47.290 through you, two people. So this is a two-part question 0:28:47.330 --> 0:28:50.380 for me because I learned about these two individuals through you. 0:28:51.060 --> 0:28:53.400 One, both, rest in peace. Damn, God, you know what 0:28:53.420 --> 0:28:54.420 I mean? God bless. God bless. 0:28:55.300 --> 0:28:59.380 J Dilla had a major influence on you I hear 0:28:59.420 --> 0:29:03.120 like it's not a studio session go by that that 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.610 name don't come up and then MF Doom I would 0:29:08.650 --> 0:29:11.330 have not known who the hell that was if it 0:29:11.390 --> 0:29:14.030 wasn't for Goo he used to make sure y'all niggas 0:29:14.070 --> 0:29:16.510 gonna know what this underground sound like. 0:29:16.590 --> 0:29:18.910 I do it you know what I'm saying backwards but 0:29:18.970 --> 0:29:26.130 Doom was like my man Ben Big Ben. You know 0:29:26.150 --> 0:29:28.610 what I'm saying? Rap, rap, bring us all together. 0:29:28.910 --> 0:29:29.090 Right? 0:29:29.110 --> 0:29:31.890 So my man Big Ben was a hype man. They 0:29:31.950 --> 0:29:34.630 used to call him Big Ben the Klingon in the Doom, 0:29:34.790 --> 0:29:38.010 you know what I'm saying, world. He was one of 0:29:38.030 --> 0:29:40.260 my dudes they used to come down you know when 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.760 I was at Howard he was a Howard student and 0:29:42.780 --> 0:29:52.170 he would bring like Lord Sear Curious George all of 0:29:52.210 --> 0:29:54.090 them you know what I'm saying be rhyming against my 0:29:54.130 --> 0:29:58.810 dudes and that's how I met MF Doom was through 0:29:58.850 --> 0:30:04.590 Big Ben But Dune was just like, the rhyme patterns and, 0:30:04.610 --> 0:30:06.110 you know what I'm saying? Like, it was different from 0:30:06.130 --> 0:30:06.550 what we was doing. 0:30:06.570 --> 0:30:07.370 Yes, yes. 0:30:07.710 --> 0:30:10.470 He was super nice. Yeah, he was dumb nice. Super nice, 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:10.820 super nice. 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:15.080 And then Dilla was, the Dilla thing was like, I 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.080 had never heard nobody chop records like that and make, 0:30:19.100 --> 0:30:21.360 you know what I'm saying, the drum patterns so loose. 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:26.740 And then the ill part was early, early on, he 0:30:26.780 --> 0:30:31.490 was messing with B-Hot. You know what I'm saying? No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:30:31.750 --> 0:30:34.230 And he was, like, you know, like, helping them in 0:30:34.270 --> 0:30:38.030 New York. Like, not managing them, but, like, helping them. 0:30:38.070 --> 0:30:39.270 You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I'll try to 0:30:39.290 --> 0:30:40.210 get you some... Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:30:40.310 --> 0:30:41.450 That's crazy. I never met him. 0:30:41.490 --> 0:30:45.050 No, no. And the crazy part is I said to him, 0:30:45.110 --> 0:30:47.020 I was like, yo, just give me a session with him. Like, 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.390 I just want to see if it's real. Like, way early. 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:52.920 And he got me a session. He got me... Yeah, 0:30:52.940 --> 0:30:54.460 he got me a session. You know what I'm saying? 0:30:54.500 --> 0:30:56.000 For people that don't know, that's Jay Cousin. You know 0:30:56.020 --> 0:30:58.970 what I'm saying? And he got me a session. And 0:30:59.020 --> 0:31:00.680 I sat there with Dilla, and me and him just 0:31:00.740 --> 0:31:02.700 rolled up all day, smoked. You know what I'm saying? 0:31:02.740 --> 0:31:05.400 He was making joints. And I was just. 0:31:05.300 --> 0:31:06.540 Like, yo, this dude nice. 0:31:07.620 --> 0:31:08.400 Like, dumb nice. 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:09.380 Yeah. 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.410 You know what I'm saying? Every producer. Yeah, he was 0:31:12.450 --> 0:31:14.630 dumb nice. Every producer pays homage to J. 0:31:14.670 --> 0:31:15.010 Dilla. 0:31:15.050 --> 0:31:18.630 Because his swing, you know what I'm saying? And the 0:31:18.710 --> 0:31:21.390 looseness of his beats was just like, and the way 0:31:21.410 --> 0:31:23.580 he chopped samples was crazy. You know, that's what we 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:24.360 was on every day. 0:31:24.450 --> 0:31:25.360 Yeah, all day. 0:31:25.700 --> 0:31:29.050 Yo, talking about that chopping samples, this wasn't even something. 0:31:29.990 --> 0:31:30.750 How you feel? 0:31:31.370 --> 0:31:33.710 I'm going to have my homie up here, too, because 0:31:33.870 --> 0:31:36.530 I want to ask him. But yo, tell niggas, man, 0:31:36.890 --> 0:31:39.630 was it real in the studio with the Big and 0:31:39.670 --> 0:31:44.130 the Just Blaze shit, my G? Like, bro, it's like 0:31:44.170 --> 0:31:46.060 we had to keep these dudes separated. 0:31:46.700 --> 0:31:50.180 Well, I'm the person, and I can say this proudly, 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.740 who has always tried to mend that particular. 0:31:55.310 --> 0:31:57.770 Relationship, yeah, because it's like. 0:31:58.210 --> 0:32:01.560 Nobody in the world can say that they have tried 0:32:01.620 --> 0:32:05.520 harder than me to mend that particular thing. 0:32:05.820 --> 0:32:07.800 I feel if we would have kept them, if them 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.940 two would have stayed in the studio, A and B room, 0:32:11.420 --> 0:32:13.360 I don't think Rockefeller would have saw a day it 0:32:13.380 --> 0:32:13.720 could end. 0:32:13.740 --> 0:32:19.420 You know, again... Because. 0:32:17.900 --> 0:32:19.430 When Big left, that's what Boyeo. 0:32:19.570 --> 0:32:21.350 I could only have my, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:22.150 --> 0:32:27.370 my way of saying... How can I broke a piece thing? 0:32:27.590 --> 0:32:30.690 Because when Bink left, that's when Ye came around harder. 0:32:30.710 --> 0:32:34.070 And Ye filled that B room. Because it was Bink 0:32:34.110 --> 0:32:36.270 in the A room first and Justin. 0:32:35.850 --> 0:32:36.790 In the B room. Oh, no, no. 0:32:36.830 --> 0:32:39.510 Bink was definitely... For the history, Bink was definitely the 0:32:39.530 --> 0:32:40.630 first person at Baseline. 0:32:40.650 --> 0:32:43.370 First person. Like, a lot of people think, you know, 0:32:43.470 --> 0:32:46.320 Justin did a lot of the records. But they don't understand. 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.220 Bink did a lot of our records. 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:52.890 But then it's like, I don't want them to... Both 0:32:52.950 --> 0:32:55.930 of them are part of a history. That's right. That 0:32:56.910 --> 0:32:58.250 is magnificent. 0:32:58.330 --> 0:33:01.590 And it's bigger than life. Y'all, the reason why is history. 0:33:01.950 --> 0:33:04.280 And that's why I want them together because it's like, 0:33:04.300 --> 0:33:06.320 you stronger together than apart. 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.580 Especially in the team, man. You know what I'm saying? 0:33:09.620 --> 0:33:12.320 Like Hov say, when the family is no, nobody wins 0:33:12.340 --> 0:33:13.400 when the family fumes. 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.340 Yeah, I would just, you know, want it on record 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:20.710 that like, you know, I've definitely over the years tried 0:33:20.750 --> 0:33:23.520 to put, even up to now, have tried to be like, 0:33:23.860 --> 0:33:25.560 how do I, you know what I'm saying, make it 0:33:25.620 --> 0:33:28.640 a peace thing between that particular thing. 0:33:28.860 --> 0:33:30.750 We might have to have a versus. Fuck it. Don't 0:33:30.770 --> 0:33:31.410 niggas play the record. 0:33:31.430 --> 0:33:33.729 Nah, not even that. Not even that. Like, just on 0:33:33.750 --> 0:33:35.250 some real, like, you know. 0:33:36.010 --> 0:33:39.170 Yo, fuck it. Swizz, holla at me. I got producer versus. 0:33:39.190 --> 0:33:42.980 I'm dead serious. I'm just like on some real, I 0:33:43.020 --> 0:33:43.620 want that. 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:45.020 Yeah, I know. To be. 0:33:46.230 --> 0:33:48.900 No tension, no nothing. 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.480 Because they both two are the greatest producers I ever 0:33:51.500 --> 0:33:51.740 worked with. 0:33:51.780 --> 0:33:52.040 Ever, ever. 0:33:52.220 --> 0:33:53.620 Like that I ever worked with. 0:33:53.940 --> 0:33:56.200 I can honestly say there's not a record or a 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.860 beat Bink played me that I was like, nah, go 0:33:58.900 --> 0:34:00.980 to that one. It's not a record or a beat 0:34:01.020 --> 0:34:04.200 that Just Blaze played that I was like, nah. 0:34:04.540 --> 0:34:08.230 I made Just give me round here. Remember, he didn't 0:34:08.270 --> 0:34:09.590 even want to give me the beat. Like, nah, this 0:34:09.610 --> 0:34:09.850 is bullshit. 0:34:09.870 --> 0:34:11.350 I give you a lot of credit for round here, too. 0:34:11.390 --> 0:34:12.049 Yeah, because he. 0:34:12.170 --> 0:34:16.270 Because back then, Just made the beat. You know what 0:34:16.290 --> 0:34:21.109 I'm saying? Obviously, it's in a certain vein, but you 0:34:21.150 --> 0:34:26.169 was always the person that way before then was always 0:34:26.230 --> 0:34:31.969 on the South, like Southern records and just... putting us 0:34:32.070 --> 0:34:34.290 up on Southern, you know what I'm saying? I was like, 0:34:34.310 --> 0:34:35.730 Bleak is the Southern connect. 0:34:35.830 --> 0:34:36.529 They don't know that. 0:34:36.550 --> 0:34:39.850 So, yeah, even for around here where it was like, yo, 0:34:40.489 --> 0:34:43.790 for you, I think it was just like, oh, T.I. 0:34:43.830 --> 0:34:45.799 popping right now in the South? Like, let me get T.I. 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:46.589 You know what I'm saying? 0:34:46.660 --> 0:34:51.319 I remember Hov saying, why we paying T.I.? Like, and yo, 0:34:51.340 --> 0:34:53.660 shout out T.I. because he only charged me five grand 0:34:53.700 --> 0:34:56.279 for that verse. That's probably like a hundred racks right 0:34:56.300 --> 0:34:57.200 now for a T.I. 0:34:57.260 --> 0:34:57.540 Verse. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.400 But Hov was like, why we giving this, who the 0:35:00.420 --> 0:35:03.399 fuck is T.I.? Why we giving him five grand? Man, 0:35:03.420 --> 0:35:06.930 we got Beanie Siegel, he'll do it for free. And 0:35:06.989 --> 0:35:09.930 I'm like, yeah, but everybody know Beans down, man. Like, 0:35:10.010 --> 0:35:11.090 I need a new nigga. 0:35:11.270 --> 0:35:16.080 Nah, the round here was definitely a, it was like a, 0:35:16.150 --> 0:35:19.440 it was a perfect, like, you record. A lot of 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.710 times people don't know Where it be like your personality. 0:35:22.730 --> 0:35:24.890 You know what I'm saying? So to me, round here 0:35:24.910 --> 0:35:27.710 was just like a perfect you because you always been, 0:35:28.070 --> 0:35:30.150 and I mean everybody from the South. 0:35:30.469 --> 0:35:32.109 You always been on Southern music. 0:35:32.190 --> 0:35:35.470 A lot of people don't know that BG album, all 0:35:35.550 --> 0:35:36.590 Trick Daddy albums. 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.080 Come on, man. All of them. That Book of Thugs. 0:35:39.140 --> 0:35:42.439 Come on. That still get rotation. You know what I'm saying? 0:35:42.500 --> 0:35:47.500 Mystical before all the other shit. The Mystical where he 0:35:47.540 --> 0:35:48.880 was the James Brown. Yeah. 0:35:50.900 --> 0:35:51.680 You know what I'm saying? 0:35:51.700 --> 0:35:53.009 I used to play a lot of that shit in 0:35:53.050 --> 0:35:53.550 the studio. 0:35:53.570 --> 0:35:56.670 Yo, I was on the South, man. No Limit, Cash Money, Hard, 0:35:56.730 --> 0:35:58.730 you know what I mean? 8-Ball, MJG. 0:35:59.370 --> 0:36:02.850 Man, fucking kidding me? I was riding dirty out here 0:36:02.870 --> 0:36:05.430 in New York. Y'all have no understanding, boy. 0:36:05.739 --> 0:36:09.359 So, of course, a lot of people would definitely want 0:36:09.380 --> 0:36:10.560 to know. I know. 0:36:10.780 --> 0:36:13.219 So this ain't a question from me. This is, like 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.819 I said, I tweeted out, yo, any questions y'all got 0:36:15.860 --> 0:36:19.950 for Goo? Niggas like, yeah, ask Goo. What a session 0:36:19.989 --> 0:36:21.090 with Hov is like. 0:36:22.430 --> 0:36:23.370 What they mean with us like? 0:36:24.270 --> 0:36:27.910 I guess they mean like how is it working with Hov? 0:36:27.930 --> 0:36:29.589 It's the same as like me and you. You know 0:36:29.610 --> 0:36:34.070 what I'm saying? Like we sit down, we listen to music, 0:36:35.430 --> 0:36:37.330 we pick a beat. You know what I'm saying? And 0:36:37.370 --> 0:36:42.609 that's part of my, what I do. I can't tell 0:36:42.650 --> 0:36:43.469 you or speak to you. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:44.319 No. 0:36:44.510 --> 0:36:47.110 So I'm going to bring you what I think is good. 0:36:47.250 --> 0:36:47.570 Yes. 0:36:47.650 --> 0:36:49.810 You know what I'm saying? And then what speaks to you, 0:36:50.230 --> 0:36:52.650 then I'm going to say, what is this saying? And 0:36:52.690 --> 0:36:55.790 then you start coming with a concept and spitting ideas, 0:36:55.830 --> 0:36:58.279 and I don't ever want somebody to think, like, I 0:36:58.340 --> 0:37:00.799 ever wrote one of yours. You know what I'm saying? 0:37:00.820 --> 0:37:00.880 No. 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.980 When you're sitting there and you're like, yo, this beat 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.100 is saying this, and this might be the hook, or 0:37:05.540 --> 0:37:08.660 this is the verse, then I start going, okay, take 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.210 the thes and the its out. 0:37:10.570 --> 0:37:11.830 Yep, that's the one. 0:37:11.890 --> 0:37:13.190 You know what I'm saying? Take the beat. 0:37:13.210 --> 0:37:17.290 You know what I'm saying? Thug for everything, bleak. Yo, 0:37:17.370 --> 0:37:20.810 you bugging. How many it's in there? Like, chill. Change 0:37:20.830 --> 0:37:21.240 that up. 0:37:21.250 --> 0:37:23.149 But the flow could be better. You know what I'm saying? 0:37:23.170 --> 0:37:25.980 But it's not like, that's what vocal coaching, people would 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.580 say vocal coaching. You know what I'm saying? It's not necessarily, 0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.020 I'm not telling you what to say. 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:30.750 But how to say it. 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.120 Yeah, just when you write, I'm there with you while 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:33.700 you're writing it. 0:37:33.700 --> 0:37:35.000 It was definitely the A & R. 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.740 Slash engineer. You wasn't just no engineer in the studio 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:39.690 that just pressed record. 0:37:39.710 --> 0:37:41.770 So that's what it be like with Hov. You know 0:37:41.810 --> 0:37:43.810 what I'm saying? With Hov, you know the rhyme gonna 0:37:43.830 --> 0:37:45.910 be good. You know what I'm saying? Is it the 0:37:45.969 --> 0:37:48.590 right thing that we supposed to be saying at the 0:37:48.630 --> 0:37:51.830 given time? Did you... Go ahead. 0:37:51.930 --> 0:37:52.890 That's the thing too. 0:37:52.930 --> 0:37:54.840 That's where my train of thought was at when I 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.940 said I lost my train of thought. One thing I 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.919 always wanted to clear up, and you the perfect guy 0:37:59.940 --> 0:38:03.180 who can help me clear this up. Because for so long, 0:38:03.910 --> 0:38:08.049 In my career, people believe Ho was in the studio 0:38:08.110 --> 0:38:08.650 with us. 0:38:08.670 --> 0:38:11.490 Remember, you did, after coming to Age Album. 0:38:11.550 --> 0:38:13.250 They think he wrote your rhyme. 0:38:13.270 --> 0:38:15.850 Yes, he was in the studio with me writing. 0:38:15.890 --> 0:38:18.870 He wrote one rhyme. Exactly. In the very beginning as 0:38:18.969 --> 0:38:19.710 a teenager. 0:38:19.950 --> 0:38:20.640 Exactly. 0:38:21.030 --> 0:38:23.520 I was 14 when I got it. I didn't even 0:38:23.540 --> 0:38:25.520 know what equilibrium was. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:26.620 It meant nothing. 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.440 I'm a testament to it that the rest of your career, 0:38:30.460 --> 0:38:34.850 because I come in on the second album, is you 0:38:35.230 --> 0:38:36.270 writing all those rhymes. 0:38:36.489 --> 0:38:37.089 Exactly. 0:38:37.610 --> 0:38:41.149 Because when we was going to do the verses with Santana, 0:38:41.250 --> 0:38:45.719 one thing Santana said was, is I, you can't, if 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.219 you're going to do the verses, you can't play none 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:49.660 of the songs that Hov wrote. 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:51.919 And I said, all right, cool. I wasn't playing Coming 0:38:51.940 --> 0:38:52.520 of Age anyway. 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.640 Yeah, it's one song. 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.439 So you got a fucking problem, my man. You better 0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:01.360 rethink that. But you got to think, you got to think, too. Okay, 0:39:01.500 --> 0:39:04.380 let's say a young kid. No, no, just think about it. 0:39:04.460 --> 0:39:08.360 A young kid, you're getting on in the game. Hov 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.390 gives you this paper and says, memorize this. Mm-hmm. 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:12.880 And as soon as you can do this, you can 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.540 get on. But let's just think of Coming of Age 2. 0:39:16.540 --> 0:39:20.000 So you wrote Coming of Age 2. And you got 0:39:20.020 --> 0:39:24.690 to realize that Coming of Age 2 is a mental sport. 0:39:25.610 --> 0:39:29.210 The whole thing is that the verses are all in 0:39:29.250 --> 0:39:32.020 somebody's head. and y'all really throughout the whole song if 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.060 you listen to it y'all only said yo what up 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:36.080 one time. 0:39:36.580 --> 0:39:39.900 It's all what we think it's all the thought process 0:39:39.980 --> 0:39:43.899 it's all thought the whole thing is what's up that's 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.710 it I. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.049 Told little homie, what's up? That's it. 0:39:48.330 --> 0:39:51.190 You never supposed, what he thinking, I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, 0:39:51.250 --> 0:39:55.700 he's thinking. Like, that song, if you really dissect that record, man, 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.919 that shit, that's why I say, man, back then, you took, 0:39:58.940 --> 0:40:01.410 like you said, you couldn't be good. 0:40:01.810 --> 0:40:02.830 You had to be great. 0:40:02.890 --> 0:40:06.740 Mm-hmm. And when I came out, it was no dudes 0:40:06.780 --> 0:40:09.060 my age. Like, of course you had Ja Rule. Ja 0:40:09.100 --> 0:40:13.080 Rule is a fucking next level phenomenon out there. Keep 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.260 telling him, let me hold three muscles, I'll be good. 0:40:15.900 --> 0:40:19.000 He was just next level writing all kind of big records. 0:40:19.260 --> 0:40:26.150 What was dope though was like the thing of like 0:40:26.770 --> 0:40:33.950 being at Baseline, making records, knowing what that meant Because 0:40:33.989 --> 0:40:36.649 we had a perfect trifecta. 0:40:36.830 --> 0:40:37.110 Yep. 0:40:37.650 --> 0:40:39.950 So it was like me and Hop is going to 0:40:39.969 --> 0:40:41.830 be in the studio with y'all making records. You know 0:40:41.850 --> 0:40:44.950 what I'm saying? So then Lenny is going to be 0:40:44.989 --> 0:40:47.250 in the office. Lenny going to be the fly. You 0:40:47.750 --> 0:40:49.690 know what I'm saying? Fresh every day. 0:40:49.730 --> 0:40:50.230 It was like a relay. 0:40:50.250 --> 0:40:53.870 Boom, boom, boom. And everybody loved Lenny. And then it's 0:40:53.890 --> 0:40:55.669 going to be G. And G going to go around 0:40:55.710 --> 0:40:57.710 and kiss the babies. You know what I'm saying? Get 0:40:57.730 --> 0:41:00.509 the thing signed. He going to do that. G doing that. 0:41:00.830 --> 0:41:02.590 And then Bobby Dash hitting the radio. 0:41:02.770 --> 0:41:06.890 Radio. Yep. So all of that worked together. 0:41:06.910 --> 0:41:11.510 Yep. It was all cohesive. Everybody moving as one unit. 0:41:11.660 --> 0:41:11.839 Right. 0:41:11.860 --> 0:41:14.700 And that's what made Rockefeller so great at that time. 0:41:14.739 --> 0:41:18.219 And I always say that was the best time of 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.120 my life because I didn't have to do nothing. All 0:41:20.140 --> 0:41:21.780 I had to do was go in the studio and rhyme. 0:41:22.020 --> 0:41:25.160 The next day, Flex, Clue, and them playing it. It's like, oh, shit. 0:41:25.489 --> 0:41:27.450 I didn't even know they got the record. That's because 0:41:27.489 --> 0:41:29.990 Bobby Dash took that record and took it to the radio. 0:41:30.050 --> 0:41:31.950 But a lot of artists don't realize that where it 0:41:31.969 --> 0:41:37.259 was like, that's the part that you're missing. Yes. As 0:41:37.300 --> 0:41:38.760 to why your record ain't popping. 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:39.220 Yes. 0:41:39.540 --> 0:41:40.420 You know what I'm saying? 0:41:40.460 --> 0:41:43.060 You need that guy that's going, Bobby used to be 0:41:43.100 --> 0:41:46.160 up there bright and early all day, hanging in Hot 97, 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.440 hanging in 105. Be like, Bobby, where you was at? 0:41:48.450 --> 0:41:49.969 He's like, yo, I was at the radio all day. 0:41:50.250 --> 0:41:53.029 I'm in Baltimore tomorrow. I'm on these guys. We was 0:41:53.110 --> 0:41:53.910 on everybody. 0:41:53.989 --> 0:41:56.569 What was crazy to me was like, one time when 0:41:56.610 --> 0:41:59.920 you called me, you was like, Goo, I see everything 0:41:59.960 --> 0:42:03.049 y'all was doing that I ain't understand. You know what 0:42:03.150 --> 0:42:04.410 I'm saying? Word up. 0:42:04.469 --> 0:42:07.290 Yo, that's when I got the seat of the warehouse play. 0:42:07.330 --> 0:42:07.590 Yeah, yeah. 0:42:07.630 --> 0:42:09.950 Because being from the artist side, you know, you just 0:42:10.010 --> 0:42:12.990 in the studio writing rhymes. And I call you and 0:42:13.090 --> 0:42:15.680 Jay when I got this chair of, you know, trying 0:42:15.700 --> 0:42:17.400 to be the CEO, run my own company. 0:42:17.420 --> 0:42:18.920 And you start figuring. 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.200 Out, like, hold on, you paying this, it costs this. 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:22.899 You need this person for that. 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.660 It's like, wait a minute, Goo was doing seven of 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.800 those things and then Jay handled all of this. Man, 0:42:28.820 --> 0:42:30.620 I got to call these niggas and thank them because 0:42:30.700 --> 0:42:33.990 I didn't even know it was this much work into 0:42:34.050 --> 0:42:36.950 putting out a project, man. Like, I just thought, write 0:42:36.989 --> 0:42:39.690 the rhymes, you pick the beat, next thing you know, 0:42:39.730 --> 0:42:42.149 it's on the radio, but it's a, it's, It take 0:42:42.190 --> 0:42:42.690 a lot, man. 0:42:42.750 --> 0:42:45.110 It take money. It's more than money. It's more than raps. 0:42:45.150 --> 0:42:47.140 Yeah, it's more than money. And that's the other part. 0:42:47.180 --> 0:42:49.700 You know what I mean? Let people know. Because people 0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.530 think you can just put money into it and buy it. 0:42:52.900 --> 0:42:53.080 No. 0:42:53.100 --> 0:42:55.100 And it's not that. Because then the richest people will 0:42:55.140 --> 0:42:56.160 have all the hit records. 0:42:56.180 --> 0:42:56.620 That's right. 0:42:56.660 --> 0:42:57.960 You know what I'm saying? It don't make sense. 0:42:57.980 --> 0:43:00.100 You can't buy a Grammy. You can't buy a hit record. 0:43:00.140 --> 0:43:03.009 It don't make sense. But you do need the team. 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.580 yes where everybody believe and everybody is like on one 0:43:06.620 --> 0:43:10.310 accord and everybody you know i'm saying is moving like 0:43:10.469 --> 0:43:13.169 okay this is the decision whether or not and that's 0:43:13.210 --> 0:43:15.310 one of the things of soldiering you know i'm saying 0:43:15.710 --> 0:43:20.250 so if you want a team and your opinion is 0:43:20.290 --> 0:43:24.530 heard it may you may not agree with the decision 0:43:24.550 --> 0:43:27.930 that everybody made but you want a team that's right 0:43:28.050 --> 0:43:29.790 so go with the decisions. 0:43:33.380 --> 0:43:36.820 Like, that's how it happened going back around here. Remember, 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.140 Jay and Lior didn't want that record to come out. 0:43:39.180 --> 0:43:39.620 No, no. 0:43:39.700 --> 0:43:42.000 It's plenty of records, bro. They thought that wasn't going 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.700 to be their first single. And again, here's where the 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:51.050 people mess up. You can't take it as like, Jay 0:43:51.310 --> 0:43:53.390 and Lior didn't mean you no harm. 0:43:53.469 --> 0:43:53.890 No, no. 0:43:53.969 --> 0:43:56.430 They doing what they think is the best thing for 0:43:56.469 --> 0:43:57.310 your career. 0:43:57.350 --> 0:44:00.750 That's right. So what? Let's say they was wrong. 0:44:01.150 --> 0:44:02.090 Let's say they was wrong. 0:44:03.590 --> 0:44:03.860 Cool. 0:44:05.410 --> 0:44:10.110 They still got the wisdom. So we don't have to 0:44:10.170 --> 0:44:11.730 sit there and be like, yo, you was wrong a 0:44:11.770 --> 0:44:12.370 million times. 0:44:12.410 --> 0:44:12.649 No. 0:44:12.830 --> 0:44:13.590 Let me get some of that. 0:44:14.890 --> 0:44:15.109 Right? 0:44:15.390 --> 0:44:17.670 We just be like, yo, it worked. The same thing 0:44:17.690 --> 0:44:19.549 they told me for what we do. 0:44:20.130 --> 0:44:20.490 Goo. 0:44:20.650 --> 0:44:21.489 It don't have no hook. 0:44:22.630 --> 0:44:23.009 And look. 0:44:23.110 --> 0:44:25.970 That was the joke. They immediately said to me, goo. 0:44:26.450 --> 0:44:28.609 Me and Hop was like, yo, this is the one. 0:44:30.410 --> 0:44:31.670 And they was like, goo, it don't have no hook. 0:44:33.610 --> 0:44:34.330 For what we do. 0:44:34.590 --> 0:44:37.739 Yo, I never even noticed that. Yo, you know I 0:44:37.739 --> 0:44:39.880 never noticed that, bro, that that record, you right. It 0:44:39.900 --> 0:44:40.500 don't have no hook. 0:44:40.860 --> 0:44:43.280 And I say to people all the time, yo, radio 0:44:43.300 --> 0:44:45.259 don't play records without a hook. That's what they used 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.810 to tell me. But God damn, what we do is wrong. 0:44:48.870 --> 0:44:51.210 It's a fucking phenomenal record. 0:44:51.810 --> 0:44:53.870 But I don't even look at it like that. That's 0:44:53.890 --> 0:44:56.270 what I'm saying. When I say look at it like that, 0:44:56.330 --> 0:44:59.399 like as if they messed up. They doing what they 0:44:59.460 --> 0:45:00.080 think is right. 0:45:00.100 --> 0:45:00.600 That's right. 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.660 You know what I'm saying? Even as a parent, you 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.799 know what I'm saying? Like sometimes as a parent, we 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.660 come in and we teach our kids based off of 0:45:09.700 --> 0:45:12.319 what we think is right in our time period. That's 0:45:12.340 --> 0:45:12.460 a fact. 0:45:12.500 --> 0:45:15.080 It may be different for their time period. I had 0:45:15.219 --> 0:45:18.360 a conversation like that with Dez. I remember when Jay, 0:45:18.420 --> 0:45:20.660 when we first talked about this, when Dusey first was 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.880 getting launched and Jay like, yeah, I'm bringing you on 0:45:22.900 --> 0:45:26.319 the Dusey move. And Dad was like, you don't know 0:45:26.380 --> 0:45:27.240 nothing about no liquor. 0:45:27.550 --> 0:45:29.710 I said, you right. We all ain't know nothing about 0:45:29.770 --> 0:45:31.890 none of this shit, but we doing it. Right. You 0:45:31.930 --> 0:45:34.250 don't know what you know until it's time to know it, man. 0:45:34.330 --> 0:45:35.170 You got to get out there. 0:45:35.330 --> 0:45:39.320 That's the beauty of the thing is, like, imagine if 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:45.240 somebody told you in 1993 that this kid from Marcy 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.520 Projects is going to be a billionaire. 0:45:48.739 --> 0:45:49.000 Goose. 0:45:49.700 --> 0:45:51.640 I'd have been on the Latin's carpet right next to her. 0:45:51.660 --> 0:45:53.700 I'd have been like the little monkey on the carpet 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.520 right with him and the girl. Now, that's just the 0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:01.290 story of it, right? That's just the story. You're like, okay, cool. Now, 0:46:02.550 --> 0:46:05.350 break down the odds that you actually know that person. 0:46:06.650 --> 0:46:06.910 Okay. 0:46:07.710 --> 0:46:10.120 That's a bunch of people that you know from Marcy. Now, 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.960 break down the odds that my mom and his sister 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:14.740 is best friends. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:14.830 Yes. 0:46:17.250 --> 0:46:20.700 Yo, I got a story for that one, man. Because 0:46:21.140 --> 0:46:23.500 I remember asking my mom. This probably was like two 0:46:23.540 --> 0:46:25.480 years ago. And I'm like, I asked my mom, yo, 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.040 what made you move to Marcy? Because we originally from Brownsville. Like, 0:46:29.100 --> 0:46:32.129 my mom's was born and raised in Rockaway Projects, Brownsville. 0:46:32.430 --> 0:46:35.410 You know what I mean? Sutter Avenue, Rockaway, Dumont. That's 0:46:35.450 --> 0:46:35.670 my son. 0:46:35.710 --> 0:46:37.489 Yo, it bugged me out when I found out she 0:46:37.530 --> 0:46:38.709 was related to Duck Down. 0:46:38.770 --> 0:46:41.690 That's right. Sean Price, my cousin. Yeah. Rest in peace. 0:46:42.110 --> 0:46:45.690 Still, Smith and Wesson, you know, shout out Buckshot. The 0:46:45.730 --> 0:46:48.310 whole Louisville, the whole Duck Down, man. That's my family. 0:46:48.390 --> 0:46:50.950 I grew up with them guys, man, putting in work 0:46:50.989 --> 0:46:54.200 in the Ville, watching them come grinding to what they 0:46:54.260 --> 0:46:57.520 became mega, mega, mega successful. You know what I'm saying? 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.680 So I saw both sides, the underground, and then I 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:04.109 was with Hov and Marcy. And it was like, that 0:47:04.150 --> 0:47:06.430 was kind of tough, juggling. Because it was like, damn, 0:47:06.469 --> 0:47:08.509 do I fuck with my fam? Do I fuck with 0:47:08.550 --> 0:47:09.910 my man from my building? 0:47:10.210 --> 0:47:11.029 How do you go? 0:47:11.050 --> 0:47:13.160 So y'all ain't messing with each other back in the day? 0:47:13.210 --> 0:47:15.089 No, we did. I used to try to get on 0:47:15.130 --> 0:47:15.469 with them. 0:47:15.510 --> 0:47:17.730 But them niggas, I remember Sean Price used to always 0:47:17.770 --> 0:47:19.390 tell me, him and my cousin T-White. 0:47:19.830 --> 0:47:22.290 Niggas used to be like, man, you got to come up, man. 0:47:22.330 --> 0:47:24.470 You ain't that good, bleak. You got to get better. 0:47:24.850 --> 0:47:26.330 So I used to be like, all right, I'm working. 0:47:26.390 --> 0:47:27.290 I'm writing. I'm writing. 0:47:27.310 --> 0:47:29.450 Then I used to go be around Steel. This is 0:47:29.489 --> 0:47:31.450 back when they was super wild because they was all 0:47:31.510 --> 0:47:33.910 in D-Seps. So, still used to be like, nigga, you 0:47:33.930 --> 0:47:36.140 too little. You can't be fucking with me. It's wild 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:36.500 out here. 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.080 Get out of here. 0:47:37.420 --> 0:47:40.239 So, you know, he used to shit on me until we, 0:47:40.260 --> 0:47:42.040 you know what I mean, made records and hit these 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:43.220 streets and started moving. 0:47:43.300 --> 0:47:46.800 What's wild is I ain't never go to Brooklyn until 0:47:46.820 --> 0:47:48.240 me and you went to Marcy together. 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.340 No way. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:50.920 Nah, I was always with Bronx. 0:47:51.340 --> 0:47:51.960 That's crazy. 0:47:52.060 --> 0:47:55.040 And nigga, I don't know nothing about the Bronx. That's 0:47:55.180 --> 0:47:57.540 one thing. Brooklyn niggas don't go to the Bronx and 0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.960 Bronx niggas don't go to Brooklyn. And I don't think 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:04.100 it's because we too wild. Is that shit too far? Yeah, 0:48:04.140 --> 0:48:07.020 that shit too far. That shit number trains. We like, nigga, 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.469 I don't know where I'm going. All of my Howard dudes, right? 0:48:10.590 --> 0:48:12.350 All my Howard. That's right, Howard U. 0:48:12.450 --> 0:48:14.649 Yeah, all of my Howard dudes is Bronx dudes, so 0:48:14.690 --> 0:48:18.390 that's Jackson Avenue. St. Mary's Projects, the two and the five. 0:48:18.430 --> 0:48:19.070 Yep, yep. 0:48:19.090 --> 0:48:20.610 Take the two and the five from the 34th, you 0:48:20.650 --> 0:48:23.690 know what I'm saying? So I had never went, and 0:48:23.710 --> 0:48:25.750 then me and you went one day. I forget what 0:48:25.810 --> 0:48:27.370 it was. I don't know if it was Marcy Day 0:48:27.390 --> 0:48:29.170 or something, but me and you went to Marcy, and 0:48:29.190 --> 0:48:31.170 that was the first time I'd ever been in Brooklyn. 0:48:31.310 --> 0:48:34.870 That's crazy. Yeah, nah, the Bronx, we definitely, I don't 0:48:34.890 --> 0:48:37.410 know shit about the BX. All I know is Fat Joe. 0:48:37.820 --> 0:48:39.840 And Big Pun. You know what I'm saying? 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:40.680 Remi. That's my fam. 0:48:40.700 --> 0:48:42.380 You know what I'm saying? Now Ice Spice. 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:43.120 Jackson Ave. 0:48:43.180 --> 0:48:48.060 Jackson Ave. You know what I'm saying? Oh, my God. 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.750 I can't forget my guy A Boogie with the motherfucking hoodie. 0:48:51.770 --> 0:48:53.549 You know what I'm saying? That's all I know about 0:48:53.570 --> 0:48:59.529 the Bronx High Bridge. That's it. You ask me anything else, 0:48:59.590 --> 0:48:59.969 I'm lost, blood. 0:48:59.989 --> 0:49:01.430 Mad BX Love. Yeah, I'm lost. 0:49:01.469 --> 0:49:04.910 You know what I'm saying? Fucking.... 0:49:05.810 --> 0:49:07.570 I'm glad we cleared that up because a lot of 0:49:07.610 --> 0:49:10.069 people thought, you know, Hov is out here penning the 0:49:10.130 --> 0:49:12.990 God verses. But let's, yo, you know one of the 0:49:12.989 --> 0:49:16.259 illest sessions I ever had with you? And I woke 0:49:16.260 --> 0:49:17.940 you up for this session. 0:49:17.940 --> 0:49:19.660 But hold on hold on before you even go there 0:49:20.980 --> 0:49:23.120 do you feel like I put too much pressure on 0:49:23.180 --> 0:49:26.600 you in terms of like when it was flipping and 0:49:26.620 --> 0:49:28.779 it was like people was just saying anything and I 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:30.569 was just like nah I believe you can't just say 0:49:30.620 --> 0:49:34.230 anything nah and then you used to argue a lot 0:49:34.290 --> 0:49:35.190 you know what I'm. 0:49:35.170 --> 0:49:38.370 Saying nah thank you for that hell no nah man Like, 0:49:38.410 --> 0:49:40.110 the anything rappers, they gone. 0:49:40.550 --> 0:49:42.890 I'm still, you know, I'm still here. 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.180 Because you ain't let me say anything. Right, right. Niggas 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.280 would have flushed me down the toilet. Spin cycle one time. 0:49:48.300 --> 0:49:49.120 Get them out of here. 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.860 Flush them. Yeah, nah, I get it. I get it. 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:53.779 But I used to be, I used to be like, 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.060 you know what I'm saying, super critic. 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.510 Yes, hell yeah. Goo was the major critic. 0:49:57.610 --> 0:50:00.270 So, I don't know how y'all think I wasn't getting 0:50:00.310 --> 0:50:02.870 busy because my man made sure we got busy. 0:50:02.890 --> 0:50:05.450 You kidding me? I remember when he first bought 9th 0:50:05.510 --> 0:50:07.589 Wonder around, man. Yeah, yeah. 0:50:08.130 --> 0:50:11.759 Ninth, now ninth to me, just as one of the 0:50:11.820 --> 0:50:15.839 greatest chopper, right? He could chop. That nigga chop some 0:50:15.860 --> 0:50:17.840 shit up. You don't even know what the record was. 0:50:18.540 --> 0:50:20.040 Ninth is the greatest flipper. 0:50:20.580 --> 0:50:26.200 Yeah, ninth flip joints. So that was like me and 0:50:26.260 --> 0:50:29.890 Hop was in the studio. And, you know, same thing. 0:50:30.190 --> 0:50:32.630 We have our ears to the underground. We was listening 0:50:32.650 --> 0:50:34.810 to the OK Player joints. We was hearing the little 0:50:34.850 --> 0:50:38.430 barber joints. And then they came with this joint called Speed. 0:50:38.530 --> 0:50:41.489 And I was just like, yo, what is this? And 0:50:41.530 --> 0:50:48.380 then this kid named T, he ended up being the 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.080 dude that was filming the behind the scenes for Fade 0:50:51.100 --> 0:50:55.200 to Black. So I was like, oh, shit. He was like, 0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:57.799 me and Hop was listening to the joint. He was like, 0:50:57.820 --> 0:51:00.400 I know the kid that produced that. And I was like, who? 0:51:01.020 --> 0:51:03.830 He was like, this kid named Knife Wonder. And I 0:51:03.870 --> 0:51:06.710 was like, word? You know what I'm saying? I'm calling 0:51:06.730 --> 0:51:07.790 this bluff. You know what I'm saying? 0:51:07.810 --> 0:51:12.450 I'm like, yo, call him. That's how you put it 0:51:12.510 --> 0:51:14.589 in on the spot. You know, call him. 0:51:14.830 --> 0:51:16.370 Call him. 0:51:16.430 --> 0:51:16.669 Right? 0:51:17.190 --> 0:51:23.470 So he called Knife. I'm like, yo, I'm hearing this. Yo, 0:51:23.489 --> 0:51:24.819 you got to come, you know what I'm saying, play 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:28.239 some joints for the fan. And that's how me and 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.380 Knife got, it was through the dude T who was 0:51:30.460 --> 0:51:33.109 filming the behind the scenes. So for all that, Like, 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.480 behind the scenes, you see a fade to black, that's 0:51:35.500 --> 0:51:37.620 the homie T. Like, that's my man now. Wow, that's crazy. 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:38.440 You know what I'm saying? 0:51:38.460 --> 0:51:39.040 That's crazy. 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:40.120 That's when we first met. 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.739 Yo, that's ill, my nigga. That's how I feel about... 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.550 Shout out your artist, Ruben Vincent. Of course, 9th Wonder, 0:51:46.570 --> 0:51:48.630 y'all got the joint jam on the records, man. 0:51:48.650 --> 0:51:51.110 He became, like, one of my best friends in the world. 0:51:51.570 --> 0:51:52.810 That's dope, man. If not my best friend. 0:51:52.950 --> 0:51:54.009 Yeah, man, that's dope. 0:51:54.050 --> 0:51:57.379 So it was like us coming together with the music, 0:51:57.450 --> 0:52:01.970 and I was like, I don't know... When a Jedi 0:52:01.989 --> 0:52:02.750 meet a Jedi. 0:52:03.410 --> 0:52:04.910 You know what I'm saying? 0:52:05.050 --> 0:52:06.390 It's like, yo, we family. 0:52:06.410 --> 0:52:09.480 Yo, but 9th is a different kind of guy. I 0:52:09.540 --> 0:52:11.900 just was in Raleigh, right? Not too long ago, me 0:52:11.940 --> 0:52:14.580 and Freeway had a party out there. So I hit 9th. 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.000 That nigga hit me back, who this? So I hit 0:52:17.020 --> 0:52:19.609 him back, yo, this Bleak. He like, Bleak, what the fuck, man? Oh, shit, 0:52:19.620 --> 0:52:20.490 I ain't have your number. 0:52:20.730 --> 0:52:22.529 What you doing out here? So I'm like, yo, I'm 0:52:22.550 --> 0:52:24.050 out here for a party. I'm just chilling. 0:52:24.330 --> 0:52:26.610 He like, yo, come by the studio. I'm having a cookout. 0:52:27.270 --> 0:52:30.870 So I'm saying to myself, I is lit. So I 0:52:30.890 --> 0:52:33.310 get dressed. Like, usually somebody invites you to a cookout. 0:52:33.350 --> 0:52:34.070 You go regular. 0:52:34.090 --> 0:52:36.129 You know, it's just some regular hood shit. But this 0:52:36.190 --> 0:52:38.859 is Raleigh. I never been to a cookout at Raleigh. 0:52:39.180 --> 0:52:41.080 I ain't been there forever. So I'm like, I'm not 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:42.060 going to pull up in the block. 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:43.660 First thing they're going to do in North Carolina is 0:52:43.700 --> 0:52:44.080 feed you. 0:52:44.540 --> 0:52:46.200 Yeah, so I'm like, they're not going to see Blizz 0:52:46.219 --> 0:52:48.890 who looking crazy. So I get all dressed. We jeweled up. 0:52:48.950 --> 0:52:50.710 I tell the team, get dressed. We going to cookout. 0:52:51.590 --> 0:52:54.720 Knife left out one major part of this cookout, that 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.080 the cookout just was for him. 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:00.000 It was nobody there. We were the only people there. 0:53:00.100 --> 0:53:05.479 Like, this nigga had mad food everywhere. And I'm like, yo, 0:53:05.540 --> 0:53:07.239 what the fuck? Knife, you told me you were having 0:53:07.260 --> 0:53:09.719 a cookout. He said, yeah, I do this shit every Thursday, bleep. 0:53:09.780 --> 0:53:11.700 I don't care if people here. I do it just 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.100 for myself because I fucking like cookout food. 0:53:14.140 --> 0:53:16.260 Yeah, we're going to feed you. 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:16.660 Yo, Knife. 0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.839 It's ill my G for that I'm like yo my 0:53:19.900 --> 0:53:22.660 nigga every Thursday I'm pulling up like it's free lunch 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:23.290 again you. 0:53:23.219 --> 0:53:26.770 Heard nah he he you know it's just like my 0:53:26.810 --> 0:53:30.469 brother um during the whole pandemic like he started his 0:53:30.510 --> 0:53:34.670 thing Fast Auntie Lounge um you know we seen a 0:53:34.690 --> 0:53:38.850 bunch of people that won off of during the pandemic 0:53:38.870 --> 0:53:42.870 that's right excuse me so like D-Nice you know what 0:53:42.890 --> 0:53:45.469 I'm saying we see what he did he murdered them 0:53:45.530 --> 0:53:48.460 yeah And 9th did the same thing with his Fast 0:53:48.580 --> 0:53:51.440 Auntie Lounge. And so it's just like, you know, it's 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:55.380 like us. Like, those of us that don't, I. 0:53:55.300 --> 0:54:01.660 Teach 18, 19, 20, 21, 22-year-olds every single day. 0:54:02.780 --> 0:54:06.260 I'm not hating on them. It's just the Fast Auntie 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.590 Lounge is for us. You know what I'm saying? Like, 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.890 let us have our vibe. You know what I'm saying? 0:54:12.070 --> 0:54:14.870 Y'all can get it later. That's right. Y'all can get 0:54:14.930 --> 0:54:15.350 it later. 0:54:15.370 --> 0:54:16.950 And I don't be hating on the kids. I don't 0:54:16.969 --> 0:54:19.770 like the old school, the hate on the kids. Like, 0:54:19.810 --> 0:54:20.630 that don't make sense. 0:54:20.670 --> 0:54:21.010 Yeah. 0:54:21.469 --> 0:54:24.230 You know what it was like when we was running around. 0:54:24.390 --> 0:54:27.250 They hated it. Like, the old school hated on us. Literally. 0:54:27.390 --> 0:54:27.710 Hold on. 0:54:28.130 --> 0:54:32.609 This is what the thing is. You at your age, 0:54:32.790 --> 0:54:35.129 if a young boy look at you and be like, yo, 0:54:35.150 --> 0:54:40.480 you doing this, blah, blah, blah. You only own a barbershop. No, 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:42.200 this is where we at. 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:42.850 That's right. 0:54:42.969 --> 0:54:45.669 Because he going to look at you and be like, 0:54:46.550 --> 0:54:48.730 if I listen to you and you've been out here 0:54:48.770 --> 0:54:53.010 for 30 years and you ain't graduated from. 0:54:52.910 --> 0:54:56.320 The barbershop or nothing. Why am I taking advice from you? 0:54:56.330 --> 0:54:57.390 Why am I taking advice from you? 0:54:57.530 --> 0:55:01.010 Exactly. I would have been that kid looking like that. Yeah. 0:55:01.310 --> 0:55:01.910 It's normal. 0:55:01.950 --> 0:55:05.129 Like, don't give me advice that you didn't succeed with. 0:55:05.210 --> 0:55:06.710 You understand what I'm saying? 0:55:06.730 --> 0:55:09.350 Yeah. I'm 100% still that old man that taking that. Yeah. 0:55:09.630 --> 0:55:11.870 Everybody tell you how to do it. They never done it. 0:55:11.870 --> 0:55:12.150 Done it. 0:55:12.290 --> 0:55:14.799 That's a fact, bro. Everybody got their advice how to 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.820 win that never won. Because to win is no advice. 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:19.080 You just go win. 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:22.180 I'm telling you about somebody who is in there every 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:27.250 day with kids on a corner. to kids in college. 0:55:28.290 --> 0:55:31.589 If you have not produced nothing in your life, don't 0:55:31.730 --> 0:55:32.839 talk to these young men. 0:55:32.860 --> 0:55:36.419 That's crazy. That's a fact, though. 0:55:36.540 --> 0:55:37.180 You understand what I'm saying? 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:37.800 That's a fact. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.799 You shouldn't be talking to them. You got to come 0:55:39.820 --> 0:55:41.420 to them with facts. 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:42.140 Yep. 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:47.350 Not theoretical facts. Get them the facts first. 0:55:47.930 --> 0:55:48.129 Yes. 0:55:48.150 --> 0:55:50.029 Then give them the theoretical of what it could be. 0:55:51.469 --> 0:55:53.109 But give them the facts first on how to eat. 0:55:53.290 --> 0:55:53.790 That's right. 0:55:53.830 --> 0:55:54.990 You got it. He's hungry. 0:55:55.130 --> 0:55:59.010 That's right. Now. They don't want to hear what could be. 0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:00.700 They want to hear what's going to be. 0:56:00.739 --> 0:56:03.000 After you feed them, you know what I'm saying? 0:56:03.020 --> 0:56:03.180 Yeah. 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.359 But they say, you know, feed him a fish, he'll 0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:08.799 eat for the day. Teach him to fish, he'll eat 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.440 for tomorrow. But guess what? I got to feed him 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:13.140 for me to teach him how to fish. 0:56:13.340 --> 0:56:15.130 That's right, because they're not even going to listen to you. 0:56:15.530 --> 0:56:17.009 If you don't feed them, they're not even going to 0:56:17.030 --> 0:56:18.210 know where the meal coming from. 0:56:18.540 --> 0:56:19.160 They don't care. 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:19.720 He hungry. 0:56:19.820 --> 0:56:20.440 Nah, that's a fact. 0:56:20.460 --> 0:56:22.719 I got to feed him to teach him how to fish. 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.819 That might take me a week. That's some ill shit. 0:56:23.860 --> 0:56:24.739 That might take me a week. 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.910 Man, that's ill. And these kids done grew lazy, man. 0:56:27.969 --> 0:56:28.770 I know. 0:56:29.150 --> 0:56:32.110 Now, you know what it is, Bleak? And here's another one. 0:56:32.150 --> 0:56:34.830 You know what I'm saying? And I want to make 0:56:34.870 --> 0:56:41.109 this clear. Because we talking hypotheticals and we be doing our, like, 0:56:41.950 --> 0:56:44.129 and I don't want it to be a thing where, like, 0:56:44.290 --> 0:56:47.739 your podcast get, you know what I'm saying, attacked. I 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:51.940 love the thing of like us when we was young, 0:56:52.340 --> 0:56:55.240 a thing of therapy and all that. It didn't exist. 0:56:55.300 --> 0:56:58.140 It didn't exist. It didn't exist. I love that. I 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.580 love that for us to be able to be like, yo, 0:57:00.820 --> 0:57:02.640 you know what? I may need to go talk to somebody. 0:57:02.660 --> 0:57:03.200 You know what I'm saying? 0:57:03.380 --> 0:57:03.879 That's cool. 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:09.560 The other side of it is that nobody want to 0:57:09.580 --> 0:57:18.250 tell these kids that they soft. I'm trying to tell you. 0:57:18.290 --> 0:57:21.930 But that's the truth. No, but hold on. Hold on. 0:57:23.510 --> 0:57:24.130 Hold on. 0:57:24.530 --> 0:57:29.669 I'm with him every day. So at the same time, 0:57:29.730 --> 0:57:35.930 you can have somebody that's empathetic and understand real generational trauma. 0:57:36.380 --> 0:57:39.560 Real trauma that comes from so many different angles. I'm 0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:40.400 with them every day. 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:41.740 But you know what happens? 0:57:42.660 --> 0:57:46.980 I get a 19-year-old that the little amount of discomfort... 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:47.740 It's traumatized. 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.100 It's traumatized. No, you're uncomfortable. 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:50.500 Yes. 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.240 I deal with it. No, you got to bust through 0:57:53.260 --> 0:57:56.200 the uncomfortable. I got a son, so I see it, man. 0:57:56.220 --> 0:57:59.560 That's not trauma. The uncomfortable is not trauma. 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.860 No, man. It's just you're uncomfortable, man. 0:58:01.940 --> 0:58:03.110 And it make them soft. 0:58:03.470 --> 0:58:03.660 Right. 0:58:04.110 --> 0:58:04.170 And. 0:58:05.620 --> 0:58:07.000 And nobody don't want to say that. 0:58:07.020 --> 0:58:09.020 And I ain't going to lie, man. It's really because 0:58:09.100 --> 0:58:12.560 it's a lot of absentee fathers, man. I blame the dads, man. 0:58:12.580 --> 0:58:15.180 It's a lot of like, I'm a person that grew 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.910 up without a father. So I know the impact of 0:58:17.990 --> 0:58:21.410 not having a father in the household. Because my mom 0:58:21.470 --> 0:58:24.490 had to be both. And it grew to a point where, Ma, 0:58:24.830 --> 0:58:28.570 you can't tell me nothing. You're a woman. The fuck 0:58:28.590 --> 0:58:30.970 you going to tell me? So I had to learn 0:58:31.290 --> 0:58:34.390 in the street. And it wasn't until me having a son. 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.459 knowing what the Jews or son needed. Because I couldn't 0:58:38.540 --> 0:58:41.610 imagine leaving my kid out here without the proper knowledge 0:58:41.660 --> 0:58:42.110 or proper tools. 0:58:42.140 --> 0:58:43.270 The crazy part is. 0:58:43.290 --> 0:58:48.670 It's ill that, like, I had the exact opposite. 0:58:48.910 --> 0:58:52.050 Yeah. So my father's the head, not only the head 0:58:52.070 --> 0:58:56.470 of my household, but the head of my family. So 0:58:56.510 --> 0:59:01.960 the cousins, my dad's the, like, of all of it. 0:59:01.970 --> 0:59:06.160 That's right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I remember 0:59:07.220 --> 0:59:12.800 when the 40-40 opened. how many ties I had to 0:59:12.940 --> 0:59:14.520 tie in the front of baseline. 0:59:14.540 --> 0:59:17.860 Mine, too. Mine, you tied my joint. Nobody knew how 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:20.000 to tie a tie. That's a fact. 0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:20.520 Nobody. 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:21.840 How many ties? 0:59:22.220 --> 0:59:23.720 I was like, yo, you don't know how to tie? 0:59:23.980 --> 0:59:24.220 Goal. 0:59:24.930 --> 0:59:25.970 I ain't never tired of time. 0:59:26.010 --> 0:59:26.090 Nope. 0:59:26.110 --> 0:59:28.320 I ain't never been on a job. Yo, yo, what's 0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.480 crazy is I said, you realize Bleak ain't never been 0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:33.610 on a job interview? 0:59:34.210 --> 0:59:37.930 Yo. Yo, chill, because my man Fred C, my man 0:59:37.950 --> 0:59:40.520 Fred C said all the time, like, bleep, man, how 0:59:40.540 --> 0:59:42.100 the fuck, that don't even sound right. 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.020 How the fuck you never been, you never had a job? 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.540 Or, nah, but because you got to, like, literally at 0:59:48.580 --> 0:59:52.120 the age of 15, 16 years old, you got older Gs. 0:59:52.550 --> 0:59:56.390 Like, yo, saying to a promoter, I know he's 16 0:59:56.390 --> 0:59:57.750 years old, but he's on this record. 0:59:57.870 --> 0:59:58.890 That's right. 0:59:59.110 --> 1:00:01.890 Hov used to pay $ 1, 000 to get me at every 1:00:01.930 --> 1:00:04.110 club to perform. He used to have to pay one 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:07.680 of the bouncers $ 1, 000. Like, I don't K-16. He got 1:00:07.700 --> 1:00:09.780 to get in his club. He got to wreck it out. 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.870 And that's a fact, yo. So I know Bow Wow 1:00:12.910 --> 1:00:14.230 had drama out there. 1:00:14.290 --> 1:00:14.850 Yeah, no. 1:00:14.970 --> 1:00:17.630 It's real. Bow Wow probably missed major bags. 1:00:17.650 --> 1:00:20.550 But you got to realize how lucky that is. 1:00:20.780 --> 1:00:24.300 And you be like, yo, like. I had my father 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:25.660 and my mother. Yeah, no. 1:00:25.700 --> 1:00:27.760 My moms, when they used to send that blue card 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:30.680 from school to go on the trip, my mom had to. 1:00:30.660 --> 1:00:33.680 Fill out both sections. Mom and father. 1:00:33.700 --> 1:00:36.700 I had the moms that taught special ed. So my 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:41.410 moms knew all the hookups in the hood. You can get. 1:00:41.770 --> 1:00:45.260 Free this here. Free lessons here. Free music here. Free 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.940 this here. My mom's taught special ed. Yeah. And all 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.140 the thugs, you know what I'm saying? My mom taught them. 1:00:50.300 --> 1:00:53.960 It's so crazy that me, my hustle as a kid, 1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:57.100 I used to get paid for taking J-Nephews to school 1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:00.530 and picking them up. That was like my first hustle. 1:01:00.550 --> 1:01:03.310 I used to get $ 100 a week. So be like, yeah, well, 1:01:03.350 --> 1:01:05.550 I'm going to get... How many times a week y'all 1:01:05.570 --> 1:01:07.970 need me to get them? I'll be there every day. 1:01:08.230 --> 1:01:09.610 So that's my only job. 1:01:09.690 --> 1:01:10.140 I never. 1:01:10.700 --> 1:01:12.500 And I don't take pride in saying, yo, I never 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:14.380 work because I work for everything I got. 1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:17.860 But they scooped me off the block at 14. 1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:19.740 So now you definitely work. You definitely work. 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.600 There was no job out there for me. 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:27.459 But that's why when Rockefeller was over, when Hov talked about, yo, 1:01:27.820 --> 1:01:30.380 this shit over, I'm looking at him like, nigga, what 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.050 am I going to do? And I remember Hov looking 1:01:34.090 --> 1:01:37.760 at me like, nigga, yo, I spoiled you your whole life. Like, 1:01:37.820 --> 1:01:39.600 I had the red carpet out for you. It's time 1:01:39.620 --> 1:01:41.360 for you to figure it out. You got to fly, 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:44.020 young man. And I hit the ground running, man. You know, 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:47.040 Duse popped off. I remember they thought I couldn't do it. 1:01:47.860 --> 1:01:49.400 Here we are, baby. Yeah, do what you want. You 1:01:49.420 --> 1:01:52.070 know what I'm saying? They know what that Duse is. 1:01:52.110 --> 1:01:55.170 Shout out my G-Rugs out there putting that foot on 1:01:55.190 --> 1:01:55.770 their neck. 1:01:55.830 --> 1:01:56.230 You know what I mean? 1:01:56.250 --> 1:01:59.250 Do what you want. That's exactly what we did, Goof. 1:01:59.310 --> 1:02:00.190 In my will somewhere. 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:07.580 But that's the bugged out part because people think that, Bleak. 1:02:07.980 --> 1:02:11.340 They be like, oh, Goo, you good. Bleak, you good. 1:02:11.860 --> 1:02:15.160 And I be like, no, that is a break glass 1:02:15.510 --> 1:02:17.170 in case of emergency. 1:02:17.330 --> 1:02:18.510 And it's not an emergency. 1:02:19.250 --> 1:02:22.709 Not while you still got two working hands and breath 1:02:22.790 --> 1:02:23.990 in your lungs. 1:02:24.190 --> 1:02:28.980 But also, too, you want to do it. Like, okay, 1:02:29.020 --> 1:02:30.660 this is the thing I'm interested in. This is the 1:02:30.700 --> 1:02:32.640 thing I'm interested in. Okay, let me go do this. 1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:34.640 Boom, boom, boom, boom. Yes. 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:37.820 For the first time in your life, you were like, yo, 1:02:38.300 --> 1:02:39.730 if it get all the way. 1:02:39.530 --> 1:02:44.510 To where I ain't got nothing, then I'll break that 1:02:44.570 --> 1:02:46.390 glass in case of emergency. 1:02:46.490 --> 1:02:49.150 Other than that, we out here grinding, man. 1:02:49.170 --> 1:02:52.970 No, no, because this is somebody you love. 1:02:53.150 --> 1:02:53.730 That's right. 1:02:53.830 --> 1:02:58.590 So the point of view becomes This person already has 1:02:58.630 --> 1:03:01.670 to deal with a whole lot of stress. A whole 1:03:01.710 --> 1:03:04.440 lot of people trying to talk to you, boom, boom. 1:03:04.740 --> 1:03:07.000 Why would I add on to that if I really 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:07.460 love you? 1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:07.919 Exactly. 1:03:07.940 --> 1:03:11.870 It's the same thing of, you know, I'm going to 1:03:11.910 --> 1:03:14.150 keep it funky. I'll be trying to, like, you know, 1:03:14.470 --> 1:03:18.890 protect everybody, but... It's like you saying, yo, Carlene didn't 1:03:18.910 --> 1:03:20.640 give me these amount of tickets. 1:03:21.220 --> 1:03:22.450 Oh, yo, I can't wait to get Carlene. 1:03:22.490 --> 1:03:25.410 We gave you seven. We gave you seven first. We 1:03:25.430 --> 1:03:26.810 gave you seven tickets first. 1:03:26.850 --> 1:03:29.730 And you wanted more. Yeah, Carlene, that's my girl. 1:03:29.810 --> 1:03:32.170 So she said on top of that, I could give 1:03:32.190 --> 1:03:35.230 you two. You ain't say that part. You ain't say 1:03:35.250 --> 1:03:35.690 that part. 1:03:36.070 --> 1:03:36.510 It's cool. 1:03:37.450 --> 1:03:42.050 But that's my point. On a show day, I'm never 1:03:42.130 --> 1:03:45.250 going to stress Carlene. No, not on a show day. 1:03:45.910 --> 1:03:47.870 It's no, she barely got it. Thank God she answered 1:03:47.890 --> 1:03:50.910 that phone. That's like me on a show day. Around 1:03:50.910 --> 1:03:53.690 4 or 5 o'clock, I'm going to turn my phone off. 1:03:53.730 --> 1:03:54.330 That's right. 1:03:54.370 --> 1:03:58.390 Because as much as this is a thing of like, yo, 1:03:58.670 --> 1:04:00.030 I'm going to come watch the Jay show. 1:04:00.130 --> 1:04:02.780 I got to perform. And I got to be on 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:03.440 point on time. 1:04:03.450 --> 1:04:04.220 I got to be on point. 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.260 And lose my fucking job. Yes. 1:04:06.460 --> 1:04:08.680 If I'm not on point completely. 1:04:09.280 --> 1:04:09.850 Straight up. 1:04:09.900 --> 1:04:12.200 You know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. So 1:04:12.300 --> 1:04:16.250 I'm never going to stress my people. On those particular days. 1:04:16.550 --> 1:04:17.610 I already know what that is. 1:04:17.710 --> 1:04:18.230 That's right. 1:04:18.250 --> 1:04:23.920 They don't know how hard it is. First of all, 1:04:24.260 --> 1:04:29.820 them Jay-Z, Beyonce, those M Show tickets, man. This is 1:04:29.890 --> 1:04:32.550 why I love my G's, man. Y'all think it's easy 1:04:32.590 --> 1:04:34.750 like me and Google just sit here. Yo, we need 1:04:34.750 --> 1:04:38.910 10 tickets. We pulling up. Yeah, you better have 10 1:04:38.910 --> 1:04:43.260 cashed out tickets because every seat with every ass is 1:04:43.340 --> 1:04:44.560 a paid seat. 1:04:44.980 --> 1:04:48.540 There is no free ass and no free seats out there. 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:52.620 That's like me saying, no, listen, listen. That's like me 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:55.250 coming to you and being like, yo, you my man. 1:04:56.990 --> 1:05:00.090 Your wife work at Circuit City. Yeah, I need mad TVs. 1:05:00.130 --> 1:05:02.250 I need mad TVs for free. 1:05:02.310 --> 1:05:06.010 Yeah, plug me. Put me on. Hook me up. Wifey 1:05:06.070 --> 1:05:08.250 in there. I need all the TVs in the back. 1:05:08.290 --> 1:05:09.190 Not a discount. 1:05:09.530 --> 1:05:10.310 I need them free. 1:05:10.350 --> 1:05:11.070 I need them free. 1:05:11.250 --> 1:05:15.050 Yeah, you don't even want the friends and family, form, price, nothing. 1:05:15.090 --> 1:05:16.220 I just need them free. 1:05:16.980 --> 1:05:22.640 I said, yo, fam, I don't work. I work for Jay-Z. 1:05:22.720 --> 1:05:23.240 That's right. 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:25.270 I call goo. I do not work for you. 1:05:25.390 --> 1:05:28.910 Listen, for the Beyonce shit, I even call goo. That 1:05:28.950 --> 1:05:30.250 nigga goo like bleak now. 1:05:30.290 --> 1:05:32.310 You know. You know. 1:05:32.330 --> 1:05:33.310 I don't got. 1:05:33.210 --> 1:05:33.990 No plug over there. 1:05:34.010 --> 1:05:36.450 There's only one person you can ask for that. You 1:05:36.470 --> 1:05:37.720 got to call big dog. 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:41.080 I don't feel like I'm supposed to be the person 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:45.180 that's supposed to add on to the amount of stress already, 1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:49.680 no matter what city you in. it's a superstar in 1:05:49.700 --> 1:05:50.120 that city. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:50.740 Mm-hmm. 1:05:51.300 --> 1:05:53.490 And they expect to get a free ticket. 1:05:53.650 --> 1:05:54.370 That's a fact. 1:05:54.430 --> 1:05:56.750 They expect to be well taken care of. That's a fact. 1:05:56.770 --> 1:05:59.540 They expect to, like, even talk to, and I'll be like, 1:06:00.220 --> 1:06:02.380 If she even, you know what I'm saying? 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:05.160 I seen them tell certain people, get out of here. 1:06:05.180 --> 1:06:08.100 But just listen. You still got to be super on 1:06:08.220 --> 1:06:11.850 point with the dances, with the outfit changes, with the lighting, 1:06:12.210 --> 1:06:12.470 with the. 1:06:13.150 --> 1:06:17.470 Yo, yo, Goo, chill. You was in Africa with us, right? Yes. 1:06:17.510 --> 1:06:19.229 Were you like, yo, you got to be on point. 1:06:19.270 --> 1:06:22.280 You just brought back a memory. Yo, you almost died 1:06:22.340 --> 1:06:25.560 in Gabon, my G. And I love my African people. 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:33.940 I fucking love Africa. Listen, Tanzania, Gabon, Cape Town, Nigeria, Ghana, 1:06:34.940 --> 1:06:37.750 fucking Joburg. 1:06:37.810 --> 1:06:39.110 We done been everywhere. 1:06:39.470 --> 1:06:41.610 You talking about when electricity gave out? 1:06:41.870 --> 1:06:45.230 No, that was at the hotel. I'm talking about the 1:06:45.310 --> 1:06:49.050 club where we performed that. Remember, we did stadiums the 1:06:49.110 --> 1:06:53.060 whole Africa. We did stadiums. And there's one particular spot 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:55.840 in Gabon I fucking almost died. 1:06:55.880 --> 1:06:56.540 Yeah. 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.700 Because I don't think y'all came with me. I went 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:03.980 with Randy to the show before y'all came. And we 1:07:04.020 --> 1:07:07.340 getting through, so all the people bum-rushed the car. So 1:07:07.430 --> 1:07:10.410 Randy telling the people, yo, y'all got to clear that gate. 1:07:10.730 --> 1:07:12.570 Hov never going to pull up to the show. Y'all 1:07:12.610 --> 1:07:15.490 got to clear the fence. So me, I'm just sitting back, 1:07:15.510 --> 1:07:18.150 not talking, just watching. So I'm like, all right, I 1:07:18.190 --> 1:07:19.800 want to see how they going to clear, because it's 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:22.880 about 10,000 Africans in front of the gate. 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:24.820 So I'm like, How are they going to clear this game? 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:27.540 So I'm saying to myself, what the fuck are they 1:07:27.580 --> 1:07:27.890 going to do? 1:07:28.260 --> 1:07:32.730 These niggas pulled up a box truck, opened the back 1:07:32.750 --> 1:07:37.310 of the box truck, and let out like 20 dogs. 1:07:37.970 --> 1:07:39.470 And they had, you know how in New York we 1:07:39.490 --> 1:07:41.950 got the batons, the shit they pull out? No, they 1:07:41.990 --> 1:07:45.860 had tree limbs, like bark from the tree, as like 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:46.480 a weapon. 1:07:47.100 --> 1:07:49.160 And they told them, yo, you got to clear the fence. 1:07:50.410 --> 1:07:52.820 They put so much blood in front of that fence, bro, 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:55.920 that I literally had to tell them, yo, chill. Hov 1:07:55.980 --> 1:07:59.180 don't want y'all clearing the fence like this. Y'all got 1:07:59.200 --> 1:08:03.020 to chill. Y'all violating. Just tell people to move. You 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.260 don't have to bust everybody's head to get them to move. 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:07.120 Like, chill. 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:09.360 So that's what had me thrown off. 1:08:09.380 --> 1:08:14.310 My takeaway was, like, I had to meet y'all in Taipei, Taiwan. 1:08:14.330 --> 1:08:18.429 I don't know if you remember this. In Taipei. 1:08:18.490 --> 1:08:21.150 I remember we was in Taiwan. We was in Taipei. 1:08:22.560 --> 1:08:26.720 And we had to get, um, which album was it done? 1:08:26.740 --> 1:08:29.820 I'm trying to remember which album it was. And I 1:08:29.860 --> 1:08:34.559 had to bust through the front to get to y'all 1:08:34.810 --> 1:08:35.660 in Taipei, Taiwan. 1:08:35.780 --> 1:08:37.890 It was crazy. We had so many tour stories, yo. 1:08:37.950 --> 1:08:41.110 Yo. Like, And Ho was the foulest, man, because you know, Goo, 1:08:41.189 --> 1:08:42.990 I used to hit the street, go get the weed 1:08:43.030 --> 1:08:43.400 for us. 1:08:43.720 --> 1:08:45.660 Remember, I felt the weed in Japan. 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:46.040 Yeah, no, no, no. 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:47.260 That nigga. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1:08:47.300 --> 1:08:47.420 Yo. 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:47.679 What? 1:08:48.380 --> 1:08:50.260 I'm going to tell you. 1:08:50.280 --> 1:08:51.240 Yo. 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:53.690 The best steak I ever had in my life. 1:08:53.700 --> 1:08:54.010 Oh, my God. 1:08:54.020 --> 1:08:55.229 I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. 1:08:55.270 --> 1:08:57.750 The best steak I ever had in my life was 1:08:57.810 --> 1:08:59.710 in Japan. That's right. With you. 1:09:00.130 --> 1:09:03.250 Bro nick yamazaka out there you know i mean big 1:09:03.590 --> 1:09:05.980 this my guy poker stars he won all the money 1:09:06.030 --> 1:09:08.309 he got all the money you're out there spending all 1:09:08.350 --> 1:09:10.000 the money richard millie's for just. 1:09:09.860 --> 1:09:11.960 Wednesday you know that's how you do it. 1:09:12.300 --> 1:09:15.320 But yeah we now we went to the joint yo 1:09:15.700 --> 1:09:18.700 and it was like yo yo we went we went 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:24.420 in a in a room And they brought this steak 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:28.970 that I've never tasted ever again in life. And it 1:09:28.990 --> 1:09:32.229 was almost perfect because the dude was, like, standing outside 1:09:32.270 --> 1:09:32.710 the room. 1:09:33.310 --> 1:09:35.470 But then every time, like, you put your fork down, 1:09:35.510 --> 1:09:36.139 he'd come in. 1:09:36.150 --> 1:09:38.790 You remember they brought the shrimp alive? 1:09:38.810 --> 1:09:39.530 Oh, my God. 1:09:39.560 --> 1:09:40.950 And, yo, listen, they put. 1:09:40.820 --> 1:09:43.900 The shrimp on the grill. The shrimp was alive. They 1:09:43.939 --> 1:09:48.260 put the shrimp on the grill. Them shits started screaming. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:51.460 Them shits like, eee! Yo, I looked at Goo like, 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:54.440 I'm getting the fuck out of here. That nigga Goo like, what? Yo, 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:56.889 eat that. It's the best part. You mug it. They 1:09:56.939 --> 1:09:58.170 squished the face down. 1:09:58.290 --> 1:10:01.270 All that nigga Goo was in there on his African shit, 1:10:01.850 --> 1:10:03.670 eating the face, everything. 1:10:03.990 --> 1:10:06.310 I'm like, yo, I don't even know who this dude 1:10:06.370 --> 1:10:10.309 is no more. He turned Japanese on me. Yo. 1:10:11.590 --> 1:10:12.930 Yo, we had some times, man. 1:10:12.950 --> 1:10:13.010 Yo. 1:10:13.010 --> 1:10:16.690 We had some times. I forgot about that Japanese trip, yo. 1:10:16.710 --> 1:10:20.210 We had some times, yo. Yo, Japan. No, nothing is 1:10:20.250 --> 1:10:21.560 worse than China, though, man. 1:10:21.610 --> 1:10:23.280 China, them niggas will walk up to you in the 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:26.019 middle of the street with a chocolate centipede. 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:26.200 Like, you want? 1:10:26.660 --> 1:10:28.299 Fuck you mean I want? 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:29.760 Hell no. 1:10:30.000 --> 1:10:33.040 I took a picture, right? Because it was a sign 1:10:33.720 --> 1:10:36.820 that was like, ROC, Republic of China. 1:10:37.189 --> 1:10:40.870 Any trafficking drugs through here, subject to death. 1:10:42.689 --> 1:10:44.470 Subject to death. 1:10:44.610 --> 1:10:47.970 So, hold on. Hold on, hold on. So, you got 1:10:47.990 --> 1:10:50.840 to understand. So, as we travel the world. 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:53.900 We get the blood everywhere. Everywhere. 1:10:53.979 --> 1:10:58.070 So, it be certain places where I be like, yo... 1:10:59.050 --> 1:11:01.349 If Bleak got to be without weed for like three days. 1:11:01.560 --> 1:11:03.920 I'm going to die. I'm going to die. Yo, I'm 1:11:03.939 --> 1:11:04.479 going to die. 1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:07.180 I died in Korea. Yo, I died in Korea. I 1:11:07.180 --> 1:11:09.040 left a part of my life out there. They don't 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:10.120 even know Korea. 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:13.759 It's Seoul, Korea. It's a part of Bleak there. 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:14.720 They don't understand. 1:11:14.900 --> 1:11:15.349 Hold on. 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.030 I'm really looking at the calendar. I'm like, yo, so 1:11:18.070 --> 1:11:21.250 Bleak got to be without weed for like four days 1:11:21.650 --> 1:11:22.929 on this part of the thing. 1:11:23.530 --> 1:11:24.010 Hold on. 1:11:24.410 --> 1:11:27.610 So it's like already, and this might have been like 1:11:27.670 --> 1:11:32.550 Blueprint 3. Where it was like already 10 people in J-Band. 1:11:33.070 --> 1:11:35.630 Then Bleak had him and his people with him. You 1:11:35.650 --> 1:11:39.610 know what I'm saying? So people get this confused. There's 1:11:39.670 --> 1:11:44.809 a B-Ha and a B-I. There's a B-Ha that's J's cousin. 1:11:44.890 --> 1:11:47.950 There's a B-I. That's my man. That's Bleak man. 1:11:48.189 --> 1:11:53.490 And they grew up in the same building. Right. Yeah, 1:11:53.510 --> 1:11:54.970 they both from the same building. 1:11:56.430 --> 1:11:59.519 Right? So hold on. So we all on the bus, 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:02.639 and this is like, yo, it's a day where I'm like, yo, 1:12:02.780 --> 1:12:04.790 it's going to be like four days where this dude 1:12:04.830 --> 1:12:05.769 don't have no weed. 1:12:07.170 --> 1:12:07.430 Joe. 1:12:07.950 --> 1:12:11.550 Understand, Bleak is the coolest person in the world. He's 1:12:11.590 --> 1:12:16.309 my brother. Do not be around this man when he 1:12:16.330 --> 1:12:20.429 ain't got no trees. Yeah, you're going to meet full-fledged Malik. Oh, yo, 1:12:20.490 --> 1:12:23.130 my bro B.I., he always say, yeah, you Memphis Bleak. 1:12:23.430 --> 1:12:25.410 A lot of people don't know who Malik is. When 1:12:25.430 --> 1:12:27.679 they meet Malik, they like, fuck that nigga. 1:12:27.689 --> 1:12:34.640 I don't like him. Bring Bleak back. Yo, word up. 1:12:34.660 --> 1:12:37.040 Yo, I was doing my best. Yo. I was doing 1:12:37.060 --> 1:12:40.040 my best. Yo, listen. To try to find this man 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:44.400 some trees. But four days went by, and I swear 1:12:44.430 --> 1:12:48.470 to God, if it wasn't my man, he was like 1:12:48.550 --> 1:12:49.970 at the point where it was like. 1:12:50.950 --> 1:12:54.550 I'm telling you. I asked the promoter. Yeah, yo, fam, 1:12:54.830 --> 1:12:55.790 where can I get the bud? 1:12:55.830 --> 1:13:01.019 That nigga was like. I'm like, what you mean? No, 1:13:01.120 --> 1:13:03.260 where we get the weed? Like, no weed out here. 1:13:03.540 --> 1:13:07.070 I can get you anything else. They don't do no 1:13:07.130 --> 1:13:09.990 drug that slow you down. You want drugs that keep 1:13:10.030 --> 1:13:12.860 you up working? I got that all day. But if 1:13:12.939 --> 1:13:15.480 it's going to slow you down, we're going to send 1:13:15.500 --> 1:13:16.059 you to jail. 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:18.880 So a lot of people don't really understand. A lot 1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:22.240 of my career been also like trying to keep this 1:13:22.300 --> 1:13:23.040 nigga out of jail. 1:13:24.260 --> 1:13:24.480 Right? 1:13:25.280 --> 1:13:32.410 So we go to this joint. It's downtown. We walk 1:13:32.470 --> 1:13:35.650 in there. It's us. It's MOP, Fab. It's a bunch 1:13:35.670 --> 1:13:39.559 of people. The VIP's so packed that I'm like, all right, 1:13:39.700 --> 1:13:42.300 it's uncomfortable in here. Let me get out the VIP. 1:13:46.000 --> 1:13:48.320 I don't know what the fuck happened. I'm in the 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:52.889 front of the VIP talking to Lays from M.O.P., right? 1:13:52.950 --> 1:13:55.689 So it's, you know, it's M.O.P., it's Fox, it's Lays, 1:13:55.750 --> 1:13:58.390 it's all of them. So I'm talking to Lays. Me 1:13:58.430 --> 1:14:01.189 and Lays is kicking it. All I hear is a ruckus. 1:14:02.310 --> 1:14:04.170 Just start in the VIP. 1:14:04.189 --> 1:14:06.059 Dude. 1:14:06.760 --> 1:14:09.620 And I'm like, oh, shit, this us. 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:16.720 So I'm like, I turn around. Yo. 1:14:17.000 --> 1:14:20.320 Yo. And I look and I see Bleak gone. Now 1:14:20.340 --> 1:14:21.939 that Bleak gone, I got to come up there. 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:22.220 Yep. 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:23.420 It was on. 1:14:23.460 --> 1:14:24.240 Yeah, it was on. 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:26.600 It was on. So when the cops come in. 1:14:26.620 --> 1:14:29.320 They locked us in the club that day. 1:14:29.340 --> 1:14:31.839 They locked Bleak and Leaky. 1:14:32.380 --> 1:14:33.800 Yep. Right. 1:14:34.370 --> 1:14:35.310 But we downtown. 1:14:35.330 --> 1:14:36.590 Oh, man, yup, me and Sheik, yup. 1:14:36.630 --> 1:14:38.450 Yeah, we downtown. They took us down. 1:14:38.810 --> 1:14:39.070 Right? 1:14:39.350 --> 1:14:43.110 We downtown. So I'm trying to talk to the police 1:14:43.189 --> 1:14:45.300 officer to tell him, like, you know what I'm saying? 1:14:45.340 --> 1:14:47.260 First of all, I'm trying to play the Memphis Bleak card. 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:49.920 You know what I'm saying? Early with the police officer. 1:14:49.939 --> 1:14:52.059 They like, nah, they going through. Yeah, they going down. 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:55.740 They going down. Nothing you can do. They going down. Word. 1:14:55.760 --> 1:14:57.940 Try to play that early. I try to play the 1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:01.050 Young Guru card. That ain't work. I try to play the, 1:15:01.070 --> 1:15:03.110 you know what I'm saying? I know the promoter card. 1:15:03.130 --> 1:15:05.549 That ain't work. You know what I'm saying? 1:15:05.630 --> 1:15:08.210 Hov is the goat for that, too. Because the next 1:15:08.250 --> 1:15:09.929 day they had us in court, right? Yeah. 1:15:10.150 --> 1:15:12.750 He had Carlene in court with the envelope. 1:15:12.790 --> 1:15:14.930 No, but hold on. Before you even get to the 1:15:14.970 --> 1:15:18.189 next day with Carlene. So these two niggas, you know 1:15:18.210 --> 1:15:20.330 what I'm saying? This is like 2 o'clock in the morning. Yep. 1:15:20.450 --> 1:15:21.210 We go through. 1:15:21.229 --> 1:15:21.309 Cool. 1:15:21.810 --> 1:15:26.370 All right. So I call Carlene. I'm like, yo, Bleach 1:15:26.390 --> 1:15:29.679 just got arrested. Don't tell Hov. 1:15:31.229 --> 1:15:33.470 Yep. Lock this up. 1:15:33.790 --> 1:15:34.050 Right? 1:15:35.110 --> 1:15:38.830 So, we go down there, and these two niggas is 1:15:38.910 --> 1:15:43.210 in the pen on some gangster shit, making it worse. 1:15:44.790 --> 1:15:45.189 Yes. 1:15:45.630 --> 1:15:47.830 Throwing shit, fighting it. I'm like, yo. 1:15:47.850 --> 1:15:50.290 We have to make room, B. We need that bitch. 1:15:50.330 --> 1:15:52.809 We ain't sitting on no floor. We need that bitch. 1:15:52.850 --> 1:15:55.410 Niggas got to move. They know how to fucking get. 1:15:55.910 --> 1:15:57.930 Forget all that gangster shit. I'm trying to get you 1:15:58.010 --> 1:15:58.310 out of here. 1:15:58.350 --> 1:16:02.019 Word up. We ain't sitting on no floor while they 1:16:02.060 --> 1:16:03.760 can cheat, no. Trying to get you out of here. 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:04.580 Trying to get you out of here. 1:16:05.540 --> 1:16:08.429 Yo, but yeah, home sent Carlene to court the next day. 1:16:08.470 --> 1:16:10.129 She had a hundred grand in the envelope. 1:16:10.470 --> 1:16:11.590 Call the lawyers, Carlene. 1:16:11.630 --> 1:16:13.710 Yep, just in case. I got to bail you out. 1:16:13.729 --> 1:16:15.570 But yeah, me and Sheik had to go to trial 1:16:15.590 --> 1:16:19.600 for that. For that bullshit, man. Shout out Stacey Richardson, too, 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:20.740 because she beat the case. 1:16:21.140 --> 1:16:23.460 I had on a white suit, man, and she was like. 1:16:24.260 --> 1:16:27.059 Yo, if y'all beat this kid up this bad, broke 1:16:27.100 --> 1:16:29.550 his jaw, did all of this, and you got on 1:16:29.620 --> 1:16:30.270 a white. 1:16:30.100 --> 1:16:32.590 Suit, how come ain't no blood get on you? Like, 1:16:32.770 --> 1:16:34.890 I don't know, girl. She was like, well, we going 1:16:34.910 --> 1:16:36.089 to put this suit in court. 1:16:36.110 --> 1:16:38.530 This was a normal night going out with Memphis Bleak. 1:16:38.850 --> 1:16:40.090 This was a normal night. 1:16:40.530 --> 1:16:42.130 Regular shit, my G. 1:16:42.450 --> 1:16:47.600 That or it's plenty of nights. Again, back at that time, 1:16:47.610 --> 1:16:49.680 we was like running up and down the whole East 1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:52.650 Coast getting bags. You know what I'm saying? Going crazy. 1:16:52.810 --> 1:16:57.780 If it's north of D.C., Bleak is going to go 1:16:58.860 --> 1:17:00.400 tell the turtle top to go to A.C. 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:04.210 That's right. You're on our way to A.C., baby. Shout 1:17:04.290 --> 1:17:05.530 out my nigga A.I. 1:17:05.870 --> 1:17:08.309 Used to see Allen Iverson in there all the time 1:17:08.390 --> 1:17:10.110 at the three-car poker table. 1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:12.000 I'm trying to tell you. 1:17:12.939 --> 1:17:15.110 If it's north of D.C. 1:17:15.470 --> 1:17:16.010 We out. 1:17:16.170 --> 1:17:19.010 Bleak is going to go at 2 o'clock in the morning. 1:17:19.229 --> 1:17:19.809 A.C. 1:17:20.050 --> 1:17:21.750 He's going to go, yo. Yo. 1:17:21.770 --> 1:17:24.019 Let's go to A.C. That's a fact, yo. 1:17:24.040 --> 1:17:26.640 So I would take out a certain amount of money. 1:17:27.660 --> 1:17:31.040 And if I lose this. I'm done. I'm done. These 1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:34.009 niggas will be in there until like 6 in the morning. 1:17:34.070 --> 1:17:35.240 Until the sun come up. 1:17:36.150 --> 1:17:37.540 We used to be that motherfucker. 1:17:37.560 --> 1:17:40.760 The sun came, the sun up. We driving back down 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:41.620 to Jersey. 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:44.260 Yo. You dropped me off at my house. 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:46.740 Yeah, we used to be on some ill shit, man. 1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:49.540 One of the illest days that we had, though, that 1:17:49.580 --> 1:17:52.600 turned out to be one of the best sessions was 1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:54.680 the day we, remember we was in the studio and 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:56.320 I forgot what studio, I think we was in Rock 1:17:56.350 --> 1:17:56.700 the Mic. 1:17:58.090 --> 1:18:00.350 And we was waiting. I think you went to sleep, too. 1:18:00.650 --> 1:18:03.370 Because I caught, no, you was in the studio. I 1:18:03.410 --> 1:18:04.030 was home. 1:18:04.630 --> 1:18:07.689 And Swizz called me. It was like, Bleak, I got it. 1:18:07.710 --> 1:18:10.559 It was like 5 in the morning. I pulled up 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.180 to the studio, picked Goo up. We went right to 1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:16.580 Swizz's studio. That nigga like, I got the record. Goo like, 1:18:16.640 --> 1:18:17.060 play it. 1:18:17.540 --> 1:18:18.900 Nigga played like that. 1:18:19.500 --> 1:18:23.050 We recorded that record right there on the spot, 5 1:18:23.050 --> 1:18:28.070 in the morning. By 9 a.m., we are at Rockefeller 1:18:28.150 --> 1:18:32.500 Def Jam playing that record. This is the single. They 1:18:32.520 --> 1:18:33.639 looking at us like. 1:18:35.600 --> 1:18:36.889 Where y'all made this record at? 1:18:36.950 --> 1:18:37.750 Yeah, last night. 1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:41.420 Them niggas sent the young guns right to Swiss, too. 1:18:41.460 --> 1:18:42.200 That's true, too. 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:45.320 Them niggas took our swag. They like Swiss over there 1:18:45.350 --> 1:18:48.630 making shit like this. All right, send the gunners over there, baby. 1:18:48.670 --> 1:18:50.920 We be one of those, too. Swiss was on fire. 1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:52.040 Swiss was on fire. 1:18:52.060 --> 1:18:53.960 Swiss was on fire. 1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:57.560 That like that was different. That's one of them joints 1:18:58.120 --> 1:18:59.580 that when I play in Dubai. 1:18:59.960 --> 1:19:03.009 Yeah, it's still green. I can play anywhere. 1:19:03.110 --> 1:19:04.910 I remember we got off the plane to Africa when 1:19:04.950 --> 1:19:06.830 we went on the Africa tour, the Water for Life. 1:19:06.870 --> 1:19:09.610 That shit was on the radio. The first song, we 1:19:09.650 --> 1:19:12.610 all jumped off the plane getting in the car. Nigga Hov, 1:19:12.630 --> 1:19:15.120 everybody jump in the car, turn on the radio. That's 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:19.460 the song on the radio like that. We was bugging like, oh, shit. 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:20.729 Word, man. 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:23.680 That was crazy. I was definitely sleeping bass line. No, 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:24.240 rock the mic. 1:19:24.439 --> 1:19:28.000 Yeah, it was rock the mic then, man. That's crazy, man. 1:19:28.100 --> 1:19:30.260 Fucking like that session. Shout out, Swiss. 1:19:30.500 --> 1:19:33.809 It's crazy. DJ Enough was in the studio with us, too. Yeah. 1:19:34.090 --> 1:19:36.650 I don't think I got 1,500 spins from you enough. 1:19:38.070 --> 1:19:40.089 Probably owe me like 60 spins. 1:19:42.010 --> 1:19:43.349 This nigga bleak is crazy. 1:19:43.430 --> 1:19:46.849 He probably owe me like 60 spins, E. 1:19:47.950 --> 1:19:51.540 You know what it is now? It's like, it ain't 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:55.180 even about the spins. It ain't even about playlists. It's 1:19:55.220 --> 1:19:58.260 about culture. It's about, like, you know what I'm saying? 1:19:58.280 --> 1:19:58.729 That's it, man. 1:19:58.840 --> 1:20:02.690 It's about culture. That's it. That's it. That's all you 1:20:02.700 --> 1:20:07.470 got to do. Like, people getting tired of the normal formula. 1:20:07.810 --> 1:20:11.730 It's just about culture, man. Like, that's it. 1:20:12.030 --> 1:20:16.729 Culture, integrity, staying true, you know, and believe what you believe. 1:20:16.750 --> 1:20:17.750 Don't be a follower. 1:20:18.110 --> 1:20:21.910 Like, I think that's the one thing. The thing that's 1:20:21.930 --> 1:20:24.070 going on today. No, but that's the one thing. 1:20:24.350 --> 1:20:28.059 If you was to look up loyalty in a dictionary, 1:20:28.100 --> 1:20:30.040 your face is like next to it. 1:20:30.060 --> 1:20:34.140 Yeah, I should definitely. Me, Yayo, you know, Jungle, our 1:20:34.280 --> 1:20:34.860 face should. 1:20:34.720 --> 1:20:37.620 Definitely be there. Your face is definitely next to loyalty. 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:39.580 Definitely should be there. 1:20:40.380 --> 1:20:42.940 But I definitely, like, I just want to say these 1:20:42.979 --> 1:20:45.820 young kids today, man, before we, you know, sign off 1:20:45.840 --> 1:20:49.220 or anything, Stay true to yourself, man. 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:49.860 Integrity. 1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.719 Stop being followers. Because, like I said, I own Warehouse 1:20:52.780 --> 1:20:55.420 Music Group, and we steady looking for talent. And people 1:20:55.460 --> 1:20:57.720 always say, yo, Bleak, why you don't sign niggas from 1:20:57.780 --> 1:21:00.580 New York? And it's like, all y'all niggas, if it 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:03.740 ain't A Boogie, y'all niggas is Chef G and Sleepy 1:21:03.780 --> 1:21:05.050 Hollow sound-alikes. 1:21:05.090 --> 1:21:08.730 And it's like, bro, they have they lane. Artists, you 1:21:08.790 --> 1:21:09.990 have to do what you do. 1:21:10.330 --> 1:21:14.349 I couldn't imagine in our era me trying to sound 1:21:14.370 --> 1:21:19.220 like Jadakiss, Styles, or Sheik. or Lil' C's, or Ja Rule. Like, 1:21:19.540 --> 1:21:21.939 it would be, like, blasphemy. Angus would have had my 1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:23.460 head on a chopping block. 1:21:23.860 --> 1:21:26.719 People seeing that, with the decline in, like, the sales 1:21:27.100 --> 1:21:30.820 of hip-hop music, people seeing that, and I think it's 1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:35.930 a bunch of young, like, New York cats, and females, 1:21:36.070 --> 1:21:38.250 you know what I'm saying, that's killing it. 1:21:38.470 --> 1:21:38.770 Yes. 1:21:38.870 --> 1:21:42.929 It's going to take a next generation of executives. So, 1:21:43.110 --> 1:21:49.099 my dream, my dream, Bleak, is, like, The next executives 1:21:49.120 --> 1:21:52.170 are supposed to be 22 years old. Yes. You know 1:21:52.189 --> 1:21:54.290 what I'm saying? If you think back to how young 1:21:54.370 --> 1:22:00.049 we was when we was doing it, that next... Irv Gotti, 1:22:00.090 --> 1:22:03.730 that next Dame Dash, that next Jay-Z, that next, you 1:22:03.750 --> 1:22:04.189 know what I'm saying? 1:22:04.229 --> 1:22:06.010 They the young boys. You got to give the young 1:22:06.030 --> 1:22:07.210 boys a shot. It got to be the next, yeah. 1:22:07.290 --> 1:22:09.570 And they can't, of course, it ain't the music. Like, 1:22:09.630 --> 1:22:12.820 I'm not, never knocking the music, the drill sound, whatever these. 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:13.500 Kids is into. 1:22:13.580 --> 1:22:14.580 I love it. I like it. 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:16.900 It's so many sounds in New York right now. 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:20.420 Yes. That's what I see. It's too many similar. That's 1:22:20.460 --> 1:22:22.320 the only thing I don't agree with. 1:22:22.439 --> 1:22:23.200 On the radio. 1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:24.980 I just heard a dude send me a song and 1:22:25.020 --> 1:22:25.910 he was rhyming. 1:22:25.650 --> 1:22:28.670 Like Ice Spice and I was like, fam, like for real, 1:22:29.330 --> 1:22:32.430 Ice Spice, my nigga, like, this is a girl. 1:22:32.510 --> 1:22:33.010 It's a lot of. 1:22:33.050 --> 1:22:35.290 It's like, I never heard a nigga in my era 1:22:35.330 --> 1:22:36.309 rhyme like Lil' Kim. 1:22:36.350 --> 1:22:39.720 I'm telling you, I'm in tune with these young boys. 1:22:39.740 --> 1:22:42.100 This shit is getting fucking spooky out here. It's a 1:22:42.100 --> 1:22:44.719 lot of different things. Niggas did not want to be Lil' Kim. 1:22:45.120 --> 1:22:47.220 These niggas out here want to be Ice Spice. 1:22:47.260 --> 1:22:51.009 This shit is crazy. And she winning, winning, winning. 1:22:51.670 --> 1:22:56.630 Between her, Lola Brooks, fucking, of course, Nicki, Cardi. 1:22:56.930 --> 1:22:57.750 They the staple. 1:22:57.770 --> 1:23:01.400 But the new young girls out here winning, the girls 1:23:01.450 --> 1:23:04.300 is applying pressure. And I knew this was coming because 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:06.420 I used to say Eve was making it hard for 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:08.460 these niggas. She used to go in the booth and 1:23:08.500 --> 1:23:12.290 bully these niggas. You got Remy been bullying niggas. You 1:23:12.450 --> 1:23:15.429 know what I'm saying? And now the girls is like, fuck. 1:23:15.650 --> 1:23:17.630 It only makes sense. You know what I'm saying? Like. 1:23:18.260 --> 1:23:19.900 I've been saying that for years. Like, if you think 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:22.340 about my whole career, it's through women. You know what 1:23:22.420 --> 1:23:24.059 I'm saying? So from Narshalon. 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:26.040 Yeah, y'all got Rhapsody. Rhapsody. 1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:26.960 You know what I'm saying? 1:23:26.979 --> 1:23:28.460 Narshalon was a beast. 1:23:28.540 --> 1:23:32.099 Like, that whole thing. But the thing about it is 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:35.700 it's just like they got to let them be them. 1:23:35.939 --> 1:23:39.360 That's right. You know what I'm saying? And not put 1:23:39.390 --> 1:23:39.870 them in a. 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:43.460 A box that we have. That's right. 1:23:43.540 --> 1:23:47.519 And y'all new artists, don't be them. Let them be them. Right. 1:23:47.660 --> 1:23:50.809 You don't be them. Right. Okay, you be you. Let 1:23:50.860 --> 1:23:53.610 them be them. Please. 1:23:54.030 --> 1:23:57.110 Because that's the advice. I remember being a young dude, right? 1:23:57.530 --> 1:24:01.610 Before Jay, Jazzo, I remember Jay used to be coming 1:24:01.630 --> 1:24:03.930 through the hood with Jazzo. Before they even gave me 1:24:03.970 --> 1:24:07.050 an opportunity, I used to always ask them, yo, what's 1:24:07.070 --> 1:24:09.509 the advice for You would give me, like, I remember 1:24:09.530 --> 1:24:12.620 telling Jazz, yo, bro, I have troubles writing hooks. 1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:14.240 I don't know how to write a hook. And that 1:24:14.260 --> 1:24:17.120 nigga was like, just keep writing. It'll come to you. 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:20.620 Just keep writing. That was always his answer. Hov, too. Yo, Hov, 1:24:20.700 --> 1:24:22.120 how I do this? How you make a signal? Yo, 1:24:22.140 --> 1:24:22.840 just keep writing. 1:24:23.229 --> 1:24:25.210 You'll get it. So that's what I give. You got 1:24:25.250 --> 1:24:28.650 to develop your own sound by just keep writing. Turn, 1:24:28.729 --> 1:24:31.090 tune everything out and do you, man. 1:24:31.189 --> 1:24:31.690 Trust me. 1:24:32.110 --> 1:24:34.470 If you great, we going to figure it out and 1:24:34.510 --> 1:24:37.670 we going to know this. And that's what it is, baby. 1:24:37.729 --> 1:24:38.530 You know what it is. 1:24:38.850 --> 1:24:42.269 We here. Rock solid. Before we sign off, though. 1:24:42.490 --> 1:24:42.769 Wait. 1:24:43.710 --> 1:24:43.990 Goo. 1:24:46.260 --> 1:24:52.260 How did you feel when Beans came at the crew? Like, 1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:56.340 when Beans went that hove. Like, I know me. Then 1:24:56.420 --> 1:24:59.000 it shattered my heart. Like, that's my bro. You know, 1:24:59.020 --> 1:25:03.580 we passed that now. But what was your mind state 1:25:03.640 --> 1:25:04.240 at that time? 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.120 It's always been elevations. 1:25:06.840 --> 1:25:07.240 Mm-hmm. 1:25:08.080 --> 1:25:10.280 You know, everybody feel how they feel at a certain point. 1:25:11.270 --> 1:25:11.519 And I. 1:25:13.470 --> 1:25:15.550 Just be like, I just be wanting to have conversations. 1:25:15.750 --> 1:25:16.809 That's it. You know what I'm saying? 1:25:16.830 --> 1:25:18.750 I feel like conversations. 1:25:19.530 --> 1:25:22.189 Can be the solution to all problems, but some people 1:25:22.330 --> 1:25:24.110 always got a problem for every solution. 1:25:24.290 --> 1:25:26.429 Yeah. Not my God's secret. 1:25:26.450 --> 1:25:33.120 But still, but still, it don't matter. Like, there's nothing 1:25:33.979 --> 1:25:39.550 that can't be talked out There's nothing that can't be addressed. 1:25:40.490 --> 1:25:45.110 There's nothing I feel as though like as elder statesmen. 1:25:46.189 --> 1:25:46.720 That's right. 1:25:46.880 --> 1:25:52.280 And especially people that have been through it. Even if 1:25:52.340 --> 1:25:56.820 it's not just an example for a younger generation, there's 1:25:57.020 --> 1:25:58.610 nothing that nobody can't talk to. 1:25:58.990 --> 1:26:01.130 That's right, and can't get to the bottom of, man. Yeah, 1:26:01.150 --> 1:26:01.430 that's it. 1:26:01.590 --> 1:26:03.570 And you know I'm glad we passed that. You know 1:26:03.670 --> 1:26:07.480 it was a dark era for our crew, man. And 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:10.520 my last question, before we get out of here, you 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:12.719 think it'll ever be a Rockefeller reunion tour? 1:26:13.100 --> 1:26:13.919 You think it's possible? 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:14.840 No, absolutely. 1:26:15.220 --> 1:26:19.600 Ooh, you heard it here first, baby. Absolutely. Rock solid. 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:21.640 You know what it is. We remain. 1:26:21.979 --> 1:26:22.459 Absolutely. 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:22.820 Boom. 1:26:26.939 --> 1:26:32.180 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1:26:32.220 --> 1:26:34.720 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:37.840 you can follow me on any social media platform under 1:26:37.860 --> 1:26:38.939 the name Memphis Bleak. 1:26:39.140 --> 1:26:41.260 You see anybody fronting, flag them.