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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: hunting skills that are necessary for a successful hunt that

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Speaker 1: happened after the trigger is pulled where the arrow is released.

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Speaker 1: So just picture this real quick. You're on the mountain.

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Speaker 1: You've stalked in with your bow on a great mule

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Speaker 1: dear buck, drew back, picked a spot and let the

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Speaker 1: arrow fly. Your arrow connected? What do you do? How

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Speaker 1: do you proceed? Last week we talked about shot placement.

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Speaker 1: This week, I want to cover everything after the shot,

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Speaker 1: including how to interpret that hit and how to track

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Speaker 1: and approach it down to animal, as well as some

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Speaker 1: standard weight times for different shots. But first I want

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Speaker 1: to share what I consider the craziest track job I've

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Speaker 1: ever done. It happened on a late season archery hunt

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Speaker 1: for mule deer in Montana. This particular hunt in Montana

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Speaker 1: was late season, during the rut, cold, in a very

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Speaker 1: low density unit. So what did I decide to do

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Speaker 1: during the general rifle season, I decided to go out

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Speaker 1: and hunt with my bow. Now, that might not make

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Speaker 1: sense to most people, and it sometimes doesn't even make

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Speaker 1: sense to me, but I love the added challenge of it,

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Speaker 1: and I love chasing mule deer with my bow. So

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Speaker 1: I figured, look, I know this area really well. I

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Speaker 1: decided to take a week off from guiding and just

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Speaker 1: focus on hunting deer. And I thought, I've got a

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Speaker 1: few things working for me. It's the rut. There's probably

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Speaker 1: not very many people out there chasing him right now.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, well, if I'm gonna be out hunting anyways,

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Speaker 1: it'd be cool to try to get a deer with

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Speaker 1: my bow. Now. If that doesn't sound challenging enough, I

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Speaker 1: also don't know why I did it. Decided to film

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Speaker 1: the whole thing solo. So a lot of things working

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Speaker 1: against me, but a few things working for me, the

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Speaker 1: rut factor and the knowledge of the area. I really

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Speaker 1: felt like I could be successful. So I started out hunting.

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Speaker 1: Started out looking in some places that I hadn't got

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Speaker 1: a chance to hunt for a long time, but knew

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Speaker 1: that I'd found bucks there in the past and was

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Speaker 1: turning up very, very very few deer. The temperatures dropped

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Speaker 1: a couple of the days it was below zero, and

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Speaker 1: then it started to warm up around twenty degrees fahrenheit.

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Speaker 1: After about three days of not seeing well seeing one

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Speaker 1: dear not seeing much um, I continued to just check

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Speaker 1: different spots and go to different places. I ended up

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Speaker 1: higher deer densities for the unit compared to some of

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Speaker 1: the other places that I was checking out. So I decided, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep hunting this spot until I find the

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Speaker 1: buck that I want because there's does here, it's low density,

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Speaker 1: so I'm expecting that those does will start to attract

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Speaker 1: back to that spot in checking. Trouble with it is

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Speaker 1: it's not really great glassing country because it's fairly heavily timbered,

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Speaker 1: but is good for still hunting where I could just

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Speaker 1: into betting areas and areas where I figured there might

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Speaker 1: be better concentrations of does, maybe drawing some of these

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Speaker 1: it paid off. It worked. I found a giant buck,

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Speaker 1: a buck that I would have been happy shooting with

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Speaker 1: trophy area or one of the top units in the state.

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Speaker 1: And I just so happened to stumble on this buck

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Speaker 1: I was first looking at this group of does, and

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Speaker 1: I got in, made my stock, snuck up there, drew back.

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Speaker 1: Everything looked great. You kind of turned and looked at

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Speaker 1: There was actually quite a few doughs around me. So

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Speaker 1: that deer would expire within fifteen minutes at the most.

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Speaker 1: So it was in the evening time. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: has got to be piled up, so I gave it

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Speaker 1: maybe it's sailed through. Um I might not find it

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Speaker 1: The blood had like bubbles in it, so I knew, okay,

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Speaker 1: it was a lung shot. Perfect. This deer should just

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Speaker 1: just fell over here, and then got up ran a

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Speaker 1: But I decided, well, before it gets too dark, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna keep following this budget. He should just be

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Speaker 1: that's really strange. But oh man, you know it's not

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Speaker 1: got to be right in this canyon. Followed it for

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Speaker 1: maybe thirty to fifty more yards, and there was another

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Speaker 1: up tracking where I left off. Luckily, it did snow

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Speaker 1: and I could still see the blood and the tracks.

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Speaker 1: It was like not even a just a light dusting,

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Speaker 1: up and bedded again, and I followed those tracks, and

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Speaker 1: the tracks in the snow, then there'd be dry spots,

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Speaker 1: and then I'd catch tracks again in the snow. Then

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Speaker 1: the tracks led to a another group of deer, and

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Speaker 1: there was just tracks everywhere. So everywhere that I found

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Speaker 1: buck I've I've seen it happen before where the bucks

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Speaker 1: They're fighting their their testosterone levels are just super high.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he got on a hot dough track and then

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Speaker 1: just kind of started following this dough and I don't

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Speaker 1: know why he didn't bleed out. Maybe the hit wasn't

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Speaker 1: it in the lungs, So I don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: I don't know which tracks to follow. So I pick

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Speaker 1: Follow those tracks, and there's like thirty deer tracks here.

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Speaker 1: I tried to base him off of the size of

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Speaker 1: the tracks and his gate, but there was other buck

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Speaker 1: tracks in there. There was just a mess of deer tracks.

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Speaker 1: There's some snow, there was some no snow. It just

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Speaker 1: got really difficult to track what I thought would be

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Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, I'm never going to find this dear

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Speaker 1: and racking in my brand. What could have happened? I'm

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Speaker 1: like thinking about, Okay, I just can't give up. Just

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Speaker 1: follow every set of tracks i'd actually recorded on my phone.

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Speaker 1: How many I was. There's a lot of miles logged

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Speaker 1: going back and forth, just walking around finding different sets

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Speaker 1: I could see that it wasn't obstructed and it turned

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Speaker 1: out to be a dough So that deear just happened

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Speaker 1: to have whatever scraped itself on a stick or who

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Speaker 1: knows what another deer, just a couple of drops of blood.

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Speaker 1: That kind of took me on a d tour. I

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Speaker 1: get back to the bait, back to where I last

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Speaker 1: tracked the buck for sure, and then followed another set

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Speaker 1: end up finding the buck. Now you're probably like, well,

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Speaker 1: what happened? So after analyzing what had happened, the shot

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Speaker 1: looked good. Now, after I analyzed what went on. This

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Speaker 1: is the crazy part because I've never seen this happen

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Speaker 1: and this is not standard. Now why am I telling

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Speaker 1: this story about this deer on a recovery podcast, Because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of recovery you have to play

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Speaker 1: it a certain way. And I did a few things

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Speaker 1: wrong in the initial setup, and then there's just bad luck.

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Speaker 1: So here's the bad luck. What had happened as I shot,

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Speaker 1: the deer kind of started to quarter away. Now, if

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Speaker 1: I would have shot a little bit further back, it

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Speaker 1: would have been a problem. I probably would have gone

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Speaker 1: through both lungs. What ended up happening was the arrow

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Speaker 1: hit one lung and then somehow pinned into the front

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Speaker 1: the deer pulled it out or something. The arrow had

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Speaker 1: come out just part of the arrow, And when I

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Speaker 1: found the dear dead, he had part of his lung

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Speaker 1: actually outside of the cavity, which plugged the hole. So

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Speaker 1: by plugging the entrance hole, it didn't allow the lungs

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Speaker 1: to collapse and then closed off the wound. That's why

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Speaker 1: I stopped getting blood, but would get blood in the bed.

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Speaker 1: So up until the first point, it was a blood trail.

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Speaker 1: Like every other blood trail, I followed where the deer

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Speaker 1: should be gone expired immediately, this dear. Somehow it's lung

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Speaker 1: weird happens, maybe you made a shot that the animal

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Speaker 1: reacted funny, you you hit in the wrong, whatever stuff happens,

432
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: but you should still be able to find whatever you

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Speaker 1: hit because there should be some form of trail tracks

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00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: blood to that animal. The key is really being patient

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Speaker 1: and really staying on and marking and then going back

436
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Speaker 1: and trying to find the trail. Now, once you lose

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Speaker 1: the trail, what I do is I grid out from

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00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: there looking for anything, any kind of sign, track, whatever.

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Speaker 1: What I will also do is pay close attention to

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Speaker 1: the tracks of that animal when it's running. How do

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Speaker 1: those tracks look, what's the size of them. There's times

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Speaker 1: where I've even taken a stick and measured between the tracks.

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Speaker 1: So if it gets into multiple tracks running different directions,

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Speaker 1: you can sometimes tell the difference between two deer if

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Speaker 1: it's not a good print based on its stride, where

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Speaker 1: it might have got into a dough that's a shorter body,

447
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Speaker 1: shorter stride, and this one's a little bit longer stride

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Speaker 1: than the other one, or match those strides up. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are tracking jobs where you have made a shot

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Speaker 1: that hit a muscle, hit something non vital, or something

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Speaker 1: that you know might take a while. How I proceed

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Speaker 1: always depends on a few things. So I've got my

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Speaker 1: standard weight times, but there are exceptions for that. So

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Speaker 1: if I shoot something in the evening and I know, well,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a good shot, but now there's not

456
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Speaker 1: a lot of predators around here, there's no chance of

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Speaker 1: rain or snow tonight, most of the time I would

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Speaker 1: just leave it till the morning if it's cool out,

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Speaker 1: because there's no loss of meat, and you know you

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Speaker 1: aren't going to push it in the dark. If you

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Speaker 1: shoot it in the morning, you know you might try

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Speaker 1: to wait till afternoon. Now, if it's real hot, if

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of predators in your area, if it's

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Speaker 1: gonna snow or rain, you may have to push those

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Speaker 1: times that you would normally wait a little bit quicker.

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Speaker 1: And the reason you do that is because you know

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Speaker 1: that if you leave it, there's a very low likelihood

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Speaker 1: of finding it the next day, where you might have

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Speaker 1: a better chance of getting another shot, spotting and where

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Speaker 1: it's at, and then waiting or some other form of

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00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of continuing to hunt for that animal and then

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Speaker 1: hope to find it bedded still or maybe see it

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Speaker 1: moving because you know that if you wait, you aren't

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Speaker 1: going to find it, and those kind of things. You know,

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00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: everything situational when it comes to hunting. But there are

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Speaker 1: sometimes where it's more ethical to track earlier. But most

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Speaker 1: of the time it's more ethical to wait just because

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Speaker 1: you won't push it. I think that that makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense in the moment, but it's something that

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Speaker 1: I just have to talk about because there is no

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Speaker 1: clear cut this is how long you wait every time.

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Speaker 1: I've been places where if you leave a deer overnight,

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Speaker 1: it will be completely eaten by coyotes in the morning.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of places like that. Or there's

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Speaker 1: places where you shot something and it's gonna rain now.

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Speaker 1: If I am hunting and I know that it's getting

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Speaker 1: toward the end of light, you know, sometimes you just

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Speaker 1: have to think, Okay, if it's a marginal shot, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have a great shot, wait, if you know

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Speaker 1: it's raining, or it's it's currently raining, it's currently snowing

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Speaker 1: and you've got a shot that's like, I gotta make

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Speaker 1: a quick shot, and it might not be that great.

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Speaker 1: Don't shoot, because your odds of recovering that animal go

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Speaker 1: down drastically if you are tracking an animal, say you're

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00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: tracking an animal that might not be hit that great.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you think it's hitting the liver, maybe it's hit

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Speaker 1: a little bit further back, or maybe you think you

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Speaker 1: might have hit it in a muscle. You aren't sure,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like it's going to be immediately fatal,

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Speaker 1: and you have to track early. The best thing is

501
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: to have two people tracking, so one person staying on

502
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: the blood, the other person out using the wind and

503
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: kind of hunting and looking for that animal simultaneously. So

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00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: someone's following the blood while the other person is looking

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00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: ahead for the deer. Because if you're constantly looking down

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Speaker 1: at the ground, tracking and you know there might be

507
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Speaker 1: a chance that might be betted and gonna jump up again,

508
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna miss it if you're looking at the ground,

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Speaker 1: analyzing sign and following a blood trail. So the best

510
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: thing to do is to get another person. One person

511
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: follow the blood because that's going to lead to where

512
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Speaker 1: the animal is, and then you with your weapon ready

513
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: or your your bow or your shotgun or whatever you're

514
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: hunting with, ready to continue sneaking forward and kind of

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00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: hunting for that animal, visually looking and following the best

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00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: assumed direction that the animal went. Really the last thing

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Speaker 1: that I would want to touch on for recovery of

518
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: an animal. And this goes for whether you're rifle hunting

519
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: or bow hunting. It doesn't matter. I see this happen

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00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Is the way that people walk up on

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00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: a downed animal. Now, if you know that it it's

522
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: down dead, completely awesome, great, it doesn't really matter as much.

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00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: But especially with rifle shots, I've seen so many times

524
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: people shoot something with a rifle. It might be spined

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: or they hit it high and it just drops. Animals

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00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: that just drop are generally the ones that get away

527
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: because they wake up, they roll over, they run off,

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00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: they don't leave a lot of blood. So the way

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: that I approach an animal is I always approach with

530
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: the wind in my face, very very carefully. I try

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Speaker 1: to position my body to where its head can't see me,

532
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: and that way I can get up close enough to

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00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: make sure that it's expired. I Also if it's wounded

534
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: or had been previously wounded and down and there's a hill,

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: I will always come in from the bottom, as opposed

536
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: to at the top from above it. So I come

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00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: in from below it because that way, if it is

538
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: seriously injured, it's gonna be harder for it to run uphill,

539
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: so it'll get up and give you a lot more

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00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to shoot again. Or as if it's running downhill,

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00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: it might run downhill fast, out of sight quickly and

542
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: not give you an opportunity for a follow up shot.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to really throw out a few. It's

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Speaker 1: just like a lot of tips on following up game animals.

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00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Most of them are going to be used when something

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00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: is hit poorly, and that should not be very often

547
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: because you're gonna listen to the last podcast and do

548
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: everything in your power to make a clean, ethical kill.

549
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: But there are times where things don't work right. Something happens,

550
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: maybe you make a bad shot, maybe the animal jumps

551
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: or arrow hits a stick on flight you just don't know,

552
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: or something crazy happens, like in the Meal of Dear Story,

553
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: I told where everything should have been good, but it

554
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: looked like a good shot. You did the best you

555
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: could with what you thought you were aiming at, and

556
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: you end up hitting one lung randomly and the animal

557
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: goes a lot further than you think. So just keep

558
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: in mind that there are ways to increase your chance

559
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: of finding an animal that's hit poorly. A lot of

560
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: it comes down to the time you wait and how

561
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you interpret the sign that you see at the shot,

562
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: at the blood trail, and the way that animal reacts.

563
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: There is a art to tracking, and you get better

564
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: at it with time and with practice, is just like

565
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: anything else. I was actually very fortunate to have some

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00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: experience going with some bushmen in Africa that were just trackers.

567
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, hundreds of generations of people that could track,

568
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: and their skills and abilities and the things that they

569
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: picked up on was just uncanny, and I really tried

570
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: to kind of take that into my own way of

571
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: ciphering tracks and following up on animals and just understanding

572
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: animals by watching them and their behaviors and a lot

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00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: of the things that they do they probably can't explain

574
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: to someone else how they do it. Because I found

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00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: over the years, I've gotten so much better at finding

576
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: and recovering animals. For people. As a guide, you get

577
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot of experience maybe recovering something that wasn't shot

578
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: that great. You know, not because it's something you did,

579
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: but maybe the person shooting got way too excited and

580
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: things happen. I mean, it's it's it's the truth of it. Now,

581
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: we do everything in our power so those things don't happen,

582
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: but when they do, the way that you react and

583
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: the things that you do right after the shot can

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Speaker 1: make the difference. Things like marking where you're at, interpreting

585
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: the shot, and interpreting the sign. All that stuff is

586
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: just going to be key to actually making a good recovery.

587
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: So that's just something to think about when you're out there.

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: When you have an opportunity to follow up and and

589
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: track something, even if you saw something just fall over,

590
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: don't miss an opportunity just because you know it's dead

591
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: or you made a great shot. Don't miss an opportunity

592
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: to go to where the animal was shot, look at

593
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: the tracks, interpret how did it jump, where did it go,

594
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: what's the blood look like, even on something that's fatally shot,

595
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: on whatever, Take every opportunity you can in the field

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Speaker 1: to learn and get better at it. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: everybody listening as always if you get a chance. I

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Speaker 1: left or review. That means so much to me. I

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Speaker 1: just I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't subscribe to the podcast, definitely click the

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Speaker 1: if you don't, I don't know. Maybe by our one

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